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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number seventy three. Welcome
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Speaker 1: you guys joining U's got Nick Amber, Brian All in
Speaker 1: studio today. Feels like it's been a while since it's
Speaker 1: been all of us, but ready to give you no,
Speaker 1: it's all good man, it's been It's been one of
Speaker 1: those weeks. We've had different people out for different reasons,
Speaker 1: so it's good to have everybody back in studio. We
Speaker 1: got a lot that we're going to get into today.
Speaker 1: I want to start first with a couple of transactions
Speaker 1: that happened and get some Scoutter reports on some of
Speaker 1: the players at the Cowboys assigned to their practice squad two,
Speaker 1: in particular Tach McKinley Antonio Callaway. What do we know
Speaker 1: about these players? Well, the thing the thing that I
Speaker 1: with with Tack McKinley and coming out of Usela, that
Speaker 1: was the thing that the Cowboys were very, very interested
Speaker 1: in him, and it was kind of debatable where was
Speaker 1: he going to get selected or not, you know, and
Speaker 1: how that was all kind of going down. Um, He's
Speaker 1: an interesting player because he was super active when you
Speaker 1: watched him coming out of college. He was a pass rusher,
Speaker 1: He was a physical player at the point of attack.
Speaker 1: He you know, he had some he had some juice
Speaker 1: to his game. He really did. You watched him player,
Speaker 1: You're like, man, this guy's get getting in after it
Speaker 1: today he goes with dan Quinn Atlanta and all those
Speaker 1: things that kind you know, don't really you know, they don't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't play to the level that he wants that
Speaker 1: you kind of thought he was maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: like what you thought with Taco. You know, you watch
Speaker 1: and you're thinking and you're like, going, Okay, well, this
Speaker 1: guy flashes some some good things. I think McKinley I
Speaker 1: was a better player than Taco myself, just coming out
Speaker 1: of watching him play, you know, and went at UCLA,
Speaker 1: went at Michigan, and then you know, he just kind
Speaker 1: of everywhere he went there was that that that kind
Speaker 1: of that, well can you control him can emotionally? You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things about his game that you
Speaker 1: were kind of just you know, the teams were looking into,
Speaker 1: they were having to really dive into, you know, and
Speaker 1: you get to important certain point in time where now,
Speaker 1: with your the ability to use the practice squad with
Speaker 1: veteran players, you keep maybe give a guy another chance
Speaker 1: instead of saying, well, I have to commit to this
Speaker 1: guy to be on the fifty three. But I thought
Speaker 1: coming out of UCLA, this guy had a lot of
Speaker 1: ability to rush the pastor. I thought he had a
Speaker 1: lot of ability to be able to play the run,
Speaker 1: you know, and be physical when he had add to.
Speaker 1: And you know, they're in a situation right now where
Speaker 1: they're trying to find some defensive ends that can hold
Speaker 1: that point. You know what what Curse said yesterday I
Speaker 1: thought was really really good. He didn't call out names,
Speaker 1: He's calling out positions. Hey, we got to be better
Speaker 1: at defensive end if you talk about that, because we've
Speaker 1: got to be better at lineback when it comes to filling,
Speaker 1: we gotta be better at corner when it comes to supporting.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't say players names, but he said
Speaker 1: what they needed to do playing their assignment. So you know,
Speaker 1: you can't you can't expect you know, Charles Haley to
Speaker 1: come walking through that door and save you or any
Speaker 1: you know, any anybody, anybody that's ever played here that's
Speaker 1: been good against the run. That's just not going to happen. See,
Speaker 1: you have to make these moves where you know, dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: the staff can maybe say, well, with Tack, this is
Speaker 1: what we kind of had with him in Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he's you know, maybe he's better than than
Speaker 1: what you have, what you have right now that you're
Speaker 1: playing with, and you can work with that and then
Speaker 1: make that part of, you know, part of your rotation.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a move that just you're kind of
Speaker 1: just looking, you're looking for you know, it's it's probably
Speaker 1: not going to solve your issues totally, but at least
Speaker 1: it's you're trying to find guys that can can play
Speaker 1: that way. Nick I remembered, I think it was yesterday
Speaker 1: you were talking about the defensive end position. You were like,
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling, and you preface it with
Speaker 1: that it's not something I'm hearing, but I'm having a
Speaker 1: feeling that one of these guys is gonna get washed
Speaker 1: out and then this happens. And obviously he was signed
Speaker 1: a practice class. That doesn't mean that he's necessarily moving
Speaker 1: into someone the spot. But who becomes the person that
Speaker 1: has to now start maybe thinking about looking over their
Speaker 1: shoulder if he if he can be a better fit
Speaker 1: for them again and against the run, Well, they don't
Speaker 1: have that many. I mean, they don't have a need
Speaker 1: for all of these guys. And those guys are I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're a veteran defensive end who's not making a
Speaker 1: lot of plays Dante Fowler, Yeah, bash him, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I mean making plays for the Cowboys, because some
Speaker 1: of them make plays for the other teams. But I'm
Speaker 1: talking about making plays for your your team. If you're
Speaker 1: not doing that on a regular basis, then yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you should. You should, you know, and not technically
Speaker 1: it's just like like Bryan said, it's just a look.
Speaker 1: See that's that is what that's the best thing that's
Speaker 1: come out of twenty out of the COVID twenty twenty
Speaker 1: rules and all. That is how they do the practice squad.
Speaker 1: It lets guys like that have a shot to get
Speaker 1: back in the league and improve themselves at a know,
Speaker 1: a minimum cost. And also it's the way they elevate.
Speaker 1: They just elevate on game day and then bring them
Speaker 1: back down. And well, well, I'm sorry, I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, I need to get past the point of
Speaker 1: like the old mentality of when Jason Garrett was still
Speaker 1: here and that type of team and what they did,
Speaker 1: because I find myself being like, well, they wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: But it's like, no, okay, we've seen things that Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy has done, for example Tristan Hill, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: here when you guys had that discussion, but when I
Speaker 1: saw them news on my phone, I was like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: I wasn't necessarily expecting that kind of move to happen.
Speaker 1: So I'm caught up been this whole thinking of like,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't do this, this is not what they do.
Speaker 1: This is what they do. But it's like, Okay, move
Speaker 1: past that, and now you realize or I need to
Speaker 1: start learning now Mike McCarthy's move mentality, the things that
Speaker 1: he does do because we sit here and we talk
Speaker 1: about certain things, and then he's shown that he's not
Speaker 1: necessarily afraid to make certain calls or move in mid season.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting and very refreshing actually to see those kinds.
Speaker 1: It's not huge, but at least trying to make no
Speaker 1: type of change. I think you're absolutely right. I think
Speaker 1: this started with Jalen Smith. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: when when dan Quinn, you know, for so many years,
Speaker 1: and you're right, Ambar, it was no, we like Jalen,
Speaker 1: Jalen guy, this our guy. Yeah. Coaches get in that
Speaker 1: mode of that mindset where they're like, no, no, we
Speaker 1: like this guy, we like you know, he could play.
Speaker 1: It really took dan Quinn coming in here and saying,
Speaker 1: why is Jalen Smith on this team? You know, I
Speaker 1: can't use him like I want to use him, you know,
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, now you know people in
Speaker 1: the front officers like, okay, Tristan Hill, well, why is
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill here? Well, I can't use him like I
Speaker 1: want to use him. Okay, Well, then move on see
Speaker 1: that's I think you're absolutely right. It's the mentality now
Speaker 1: is like listen, we don't have time to wait for you.
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks what's going on at receiver right now.
Speaker 1: We've done shows and radio shows talking about Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: You know it's it's not like, oh no, they'll tell you, yeah,
Speaker 1: we love our receivers until all of a sudden, all
Speaker 1: the receivers start playing and you're not getting exactly everything
Speaker 1: you want out of the position. Okay, we need to go.
Speaker 1: That part of it is very refreshing that they're not
Speaker 1: just going to sit there and say, oh no, this
Speaker 1: is this is fine. You know, they realize they have
Speaker 1: an issue with the running game or defending the running game.
Speaker 1: They realize that, and there, you know, is like I say,
Speaker 1: can you make enough moves? They try to make a
Speaker 1: move with Hankins to give them a bigger inside presence
Speaker 1: to go with Bohana and those guys. Good for you.
Speaker 1: It helps because you can see some stuff going on
Speaker 1: now again. You know we have to you have to
Speaker 1: play the right scheme and go the right way and
Speaker 1: do all that stuff if you know they're asking you
Speaker 1: to do those things. But to me, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: very refreshing that they're just not going to sit there
Speaker 1: and hope that it's gonna fix itself. Let's add some
Speaker 1: pieces to this and see if that piece. And to
Speaker 1: Nick's point, Nick's not calling out uh, you know, Fowler
Speaker 1: and bash him and those guys. He's just Tania honestly though. Hey,
Speaker 1: they've got to step up their game too. You know,
Speaker 1: if you want to be on the fifty three, there's
Speaker 1: expectations here of getting of trying to win this division,
Speaker 1: going in the playoffs, going further. We can't just you
Speaker 1: just can't be a guy that's like Parcels used to say,
Speaker 1: just riding the bus, you know, hanging out and it's
Speaker 1: you know, a strap just waiting around holding on. You know,
Speaker 1: too many guys that are not big defensive ends that
Speaker 1: like to rush the passer, that don't hold the edge
Speaker 1: and it starts and Mica is one of them, and
Speaker 1: Sam Williams is another. And those guys are going to
Speaker 1: be here obviously, obviously, and they should be. But I
Speaker 1: might be the guy that plays a little more right
Speaker 1: and and you know, if you're gonna you know, some
Speaker 1: size in there that conside inside play it play some end,
Speaker 1: traditional end, you know, or maybe Anthony Barr if he
Speaker 1: gets back. I don't know, he's I don't know he
Speaker 1: helps the problem or not, but something's got to give.
Speaker 1: You're just throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall,
Speaker 1: and you know it's probably not all gonna stick. Now,
Speaker 1: we we all have been kind of listening to the
Speaker 1: talk of Odell Beckham Junior and that yesterday the Cowboys
Speaker 1: signed Antonio Callaway to the practice squad. Were you at
Speaker 1: all shocked by that, knowing that they got James Washington,
Speaker 1: who we think should be ready at some point here soon.
Speaker 1: Is it all at all shocking that they would go
Speaker 1: out and and add another veteran to the practice squad
Speaker 1: under those circumstances, or was this just a situation where
Speaker 1: they just need more depth. They need more bodies, need
Speaker 1: some depth, need some bodies, and need need some guys
Speaker 1: that that have played it. I mean, you know, for
Speaker 1: Hoko still on IR, I mean, he's just it's just
Speaker 1: throwing stuff out there, and and and maybe you know,
Speaker 1: if he gets ready to play, they trust him more
Speaker 1: than who else they have on the pro I mean
Speaker 1: likes and Drummond. Yeah, he's a veteran. You have to
Speaker 1: keep an eye. And Michael Gilla got back in the
Speaker 1: game and he finished the game. But when that happened,
Speaker 1: you know, you're like, oh crap, what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 1: You're already kind of don't have many guys to begin with,
Speaker 1: so I'll be curious to see what happened. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he's back, I don't even know which leg was
Speaker 1: it that he didn't kind of bang up. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember he was back before. Yeah, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: back in. It was fine. But it's just something to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on as well. And when you look
Speaker 1: at contracts and all that, I mean, signing a guy
Speaker 1: like cam versus Odell, it's very very different. So I
Speaker 1: would have, you know, you find somebody that can kind
Speaker 1: of add some depth in there and help you out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you lose Michael Gallub right now, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the heck you do. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's I think that to me, the Washington and Beckham
Speaker 1: is tied together. I believe I said that's last week
Speaker 1: that if they go and get Beckham, then maybe they
Speaker 1: don't have to hurry Washington into the mix as quickly
Speaker 1: as they might need to. But if they don't get Beckham,
Speaker 1: now they've protected themselves. They've got Washington. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens with drum Drummond and Houston. And then you know,
Speaker 1: also with Callaway. Callawe was a guy that was a
Speaker 1: very talented player coming out of Florida. He just got
Speaker 1: caught in some really bad situations. It was a credit
Speaker 1: card scam at Florida that caused them some problems. There
Speaker 1: were some some suspensions, yeah, off the field stuff that
Speaker 1: people are kind of like going, huh, okay, well maybe
Speaker 1: we'll have this guy off the board. But that was
Speaker 1: several years ago. So now you're in a situation where
Speaker 1: you know, you look at a guy that's he's got
Speaker 1: the measurables, he's got the speed, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: let's let's take a chance on this. Let's take a
Speaker 1: chance on a guy that you know that we we
Speaker 1: lights coming out of college. He's been kind of bouncing
Speaker 1: around a little bit. And it's again like Nick's talking about,
Speaker 1: it's the practice squad. It's it's minimal, it's minimal payment,
Speaker 1: it's it's not a fifty three man roster spot. And
Speaker 1: if you do something wrong and they don't like you,
Speaker 1: they could just move away from you without ever having
Speaker 1: any issues with And I say this, and obviously you know,
Speaker 1: knowing Brian can speak to this even more. But when
Speaker 1: you do the draft process and you have all of
Speaker 1: these scouts that do these extensive research on players, it's
Speaker 1: not just for the ten guys you're going to draft
Speaker 1: and then twelve guys you bring on free agency. It's
Speaker 1: when three or four years down the road, when McKinley
Speaker 1: and Callaway don't pan out, you go back to your
Speaker 1: notes and say, all right, Brian brought us, what did
Speaker 1: you think about this guy back then, and what has
Speaker 1: changed or what it is? He's still the same guy.
Speaker 1: And and that's why you do all this stuff. And
Speaker 1: that's why we do the draft show, because you guys
Speaker 1: know these guys. It's you're only a few years removed.
Speaker 1: Oh see this. I mean if you talk about just
Speaker 1: the skill level of what you get with Callaway, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a very natural player. Effortless I think was
Speaker 1: the words. So you know that we've used to talk
Speaker 1: about him the way he was moved, there was a
Speaker 1: smoothness to his game and all that. Again, it was
Speaker 1: five six years ago. But but that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: Nick's right. You go back and you're saying, listen, we
Speaker 1: really weren't too high on this guy. Manu of fact,
Speaker 1: we probably had him off the board. But you know, hey,
Speaker 1: we've got a situation at wide receiver right now. And
Speaker 1: that's what the practice squads doing. We're testing guys out
Speaker 1: to see if they're better than you know, are they
Speaker 1: better than the other two practice squad guys we have,
Speaker 1: or are they better than say your fifth receiver or
Speaker 1: sixth receivers that's playing in these games every week. All right,
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Speaker 1: on my fiftieth birthday present yet? Yeah, Sean, Charlie's coming back.
Speaker 1: Charlie's coming back to give you a cake. Yeah. That
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Speaker 1: he goes, hey, Yeah, he was very great. It's very nice.
Speaker 1: Right now, Sean Lee and his wife are enjoying fish
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Speaker 1: You know what a nice guy we need. We have
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Speaker 1: coming up. Mickey's the day before me or after. We
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Speaker 1: for Mickey, Yes, oh wow, Mickey does not look though
Speaker 1: he is an Italian. Yeah, yeah, he's got a little
Speaker 1: of that. He's got a little Seattle Seahawks coach. He's
Speaker 1: got a little that guy to him. You know, that
Speaker 1: guy's seventies all the time, just looking like he's not
Speaker 1: seventy three years old. You know what I'm saying. He's
Speaker 1: he's Yeah, he's the oldest coach in the league. I
Speaker 1: believe we got a lot of our producer Jazz. You
Speaker 1: said her birthdays coming up here in this Suber twelfth.
Speaker 1: So everybody, when are you twenty eighth? Okay, you're the
Speaker 1: twenty eighth Mickey, I think it was the day before me.
Speaker 1: I think you see eleventh. Yeah, and I'm the twelfth? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and was eight? Two crusty guys voided, I will not
Speaker 1: say my age, but eighth. What's it's like, you guys
Speaker 1: talking about that? We're all hitting like those milestones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: big numbers here or so? Is it a big number
Speaker 1: for you than? Are you third? No, I'm twenty twenty, Yes,
Speaker 1: twenty one. Now I can drink bile. I'm turning twenty one.
Speaker 1: What you do when you get to that age, you
Speaker 1: just say, I'm celebrating my twenty first anniverse, the anniversary
Speaker 1: of my twenty first birthday. Like, just stick with twenty one,
Speaker 1: you can stick there. All right, Let's let's dump in.
Speaker 1: Minnesota offense versus Dallas defense were really young when you
Speaker 1: started with us. Just keep it on stuff to make
Speaker 1: me more than pressed. Yeah, all right, look at this.
Speaker 1: You look at this. You look at this, This Vikings offense.
Speaker 1: And Nick didn't do it yesterday. Huh he did? He did.
Speaker 1: Jefferson's gonna catch it, and Feeland's gonna run routes, and
Speaker 1: Cook's gonna run it. And when he gets tired, Madison's
Speaker 1: gonna come in and he's gonna run it. And since
Speaker 1: it's not a primetime game, Kirk Cousins is probably gonna
Speaker 1: play pretty well. And then you're gonna hear that horn.
Speaker 1: And when you hear that horn, you usually something bad.
Speaker 1: That's bad. Thing is bad. Okay, So, Brian, here's my
Speaker 1: question for you. Attack ed Ingram. That's all he forgot
Speaker 1: right there. The right guard, No, but go ahead. The
Speaker 1: pass defense defense, pass offense and the rush offense both
Speaker 1: are good, right, which one do you think is better. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say the way they run the
Speaker 1: football because what to me it really, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I say, run the ball pass offense because of the
Speaker 1: receivers they have with now the tight end and you
Speaker 1: can even include kJ Osborne in that group with feeling,
Speaker 1: and then they're deep in the wide receiver. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: really are. They're hard to cover and you know, but
Speaker 1: this guy will throw you some ball sometimes you just
Speaker 1: gotta be ready for it. You gotta be ready for
Speaker 1: him to make mistakes. I think what they do running
Speaker 1: the ball kind of scares not just because it's the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: because I'm always scared of teams that have the ability.
Speaker 1: And this back is both these backs they were single
Speaker 1: digit numbers one Wars four, one WARS two, and they
Speaker 1: look like the same guy playing. You know. It's but
Speaker 1: with Cook you get this attack the line and then
Speaker 1: if it's kind of muddy or not clean, he bounces
Speaker 1: it and so now you're like, you got all these
Speaker 1: bodies trying to stop a run and then he just
Speaker 1: bounces the ball to the outside and now it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's a instead of a gain of one, it's a
Speaker 1: gain of seven or eight because he's able to bounce
Speaker 1: the ball, you know. And it's both these backs, they're
Speaker 1: just they're both very physical. They're downhill players. I think
Speaker 1: that if you the thing the problem is when they
Speaker 1: throw the ball is they do a great job. This
Speaker 1: coach and you know, and and hey, I love Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 1: You know, Mike and I worked together. We all worked
Speaker 1: with Mike Zimmer. We all know Mike Zimmer. And I
Speaker 1: think Kevin O'Connell coming in here, though, has given this
Speaker 1: offense a totally different look. And I mean when you
Speaker 1: start to talk about the combinations of routes and stuff,
Speaker 1: the crossers, the you know, the rub routes, the things
Speaker 1: that you know that that's I'm envious, I really am it.
Speaker 1: So that rams attack where they're bringing guys across the field.
Speaker 1: There's deep routes, there's there's combinations with with tight bunch
Speaker 1: formations and scattering. What happened with the Cowboys last week
Speaker 1: in that game, you know, the tight formation all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, you know, the receivers on the
Speaker 1: nickel and now it's across the field for a touchdown
Speaker 1: right there, and you know, so they're gonna have their
Speaker 1: hands full, they're gonna have their hands full of playing
Speaker 1: pass defense. This just justin jeff'son me personally, I being
Speaker 1: an LSU guy, I thought Chase was better than Jeff
Speaker 1: I really really did, And to this day, I still
Speaker 1: Jefferson has just elevated his game to a whole other level.
Speaker 1: But you know, he had a bad game. He had
Speaker 1: one of his worst career stat games against the Cowboys
Speaker 1: last year. And then you know, if you're if it's
Speaker 1: digs or whatever whatever, that game plan was to take
Speaker 1: care of him, kind of dust that went off and
Speaker 1: bring it back. But I mean the thing with Kevin O'Connell,
Speaker 1: he's a different kind of play caller, and I think
Speaker 1: that's the problems you run into. But you know, the
Speaker 1: running game will be a problem too because of this.
Speaker 1: The way these two backs are, where's their weakness. If
Speaker 1: you catch him on that, if you catch them up front,
Speaker 1: then there's there an LSU guys starting at right guard
Speaker 1: for him at Ingram is starting for him at guard,
Speaker 1: and he's the guy that tends to kind of struggle
Speaker 1: a little bit, uh, you know, because of his lack
Speaker 1: of experience. He's kind of a He's a powerful guy,
Speaker 1: but there's a little bit of that. You can see him.
Speaker 1: He get over the tops of his skis, gets a
Speaker 1: little top heavy. You know, you could work around him. Um,
Speaker 1: the we'll see what happens. Christian Darsaul is really good,
Speaker 1: but he's on the injured list right now. I think
Speaker 1: he's in the concussion protocol. If he can't line up
Speaker 1: at play with that would be a big loss because
Speaker 1: that's the left tackle. So the left tackle, if he's out,
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. And if you're going to
Speaker 1: attack a spot, I believe it's the right guard at
Speaker 1: ingram Is because the rookie, he just doesn't he just
Speaker 1: doesn't have the feel yet for how rushers work him.
Speaker 1: You know, he'll get that experience there for sure. It's
Speaker 1: not fun. It's not fun to watch. No, it's not
Speaker 1: fun to watch. If you're if you're a Viking fan,
Speaker 1: you should be excited about your offense. Now. Okay, on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, though, we're real quick
Speaker 1: here though. We'll see what happens with Zadarius Smith. He's
Speaker 1: on their injured list. Him and Daniel Hunter, the two
Speaker 1: defensive ends are good players. They stand up, they're kind
Speaker 1: of like what Mica does they rush standing up, They'll
Speaker 1: put their hand down. But both of these guys have
Speaker 1: a really good feel for how to attack. But you know,
Speaker 1: teams have moved the ball on the vikings. They give
Speaker 1: up yards, they do. They give up some plays. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this too. They got a rookie corner starting
Speaker 1: for him, a Caleb Evans, and he really had a
Speaker 1: problem last week against Digs, you know. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can run routes on him, you can get open on him.
Speaker 1: And Patrick Peterson. This team is really they're second in
Speaker 1: the league in turnovers. They think they got eighteen, but
Speaker 1: they do a good job. Again, they turn the ball,
Speaker 1: they get turnovers and stuff like that. But there's a
Speaker 1: couple of varias you can attack. I think you can
Speaker 1: attack the corner Evans, and I think Patrick Peterson at
Speaker 1: times you can spin him around. I think he gets
Speaker 1: he's a little bit more of a guesser now with
Speaker 1: the routes and stuff. He's trying to guess where the
Speaker 1: routes are gonna go. He's not as you know, he
Speaker 1: was like a shut down guy at one time. I
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of some you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit of slippage in his play, so to me,
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks and in Harrison Smith. You know, Harrison Smith
Speaker 1: is a safety, has been an All Pro for a
Speaker 1: lot of years. It's starting to show though. The wear
Speaker 1: and tear on him is is pretty evident there. So
Speaker 1: maybe the tight ends could get a little more involved.
Speaker 1: So this will be a game that defending their offense
Speaker 1: could be very much a problem. But they're gonna have
Speaker 1: some problems having to defend you as well, So keep
Speaker 1: an eye on both those. When you look at their
Speaker 1: offensive production, the Miami game stands out to me. At
Speaker 1: the point when they didn't have a lot of production,
Speaker 1: they are under Miami covering under the yards, passing hundred
Speaker 1: fifty six. Even in the Philadelphia and Washington games they
Speaker 1: had a hard time running the ball. They did. What
Speaker 1: happened in those three games, particularly, what will those defenses
Speaker 1: able to do to link Washington. We all know firsthand
Speaker 1: Washington will not let you run the football. Okay, Miami,
Speaker 1: it was like nine thousand degrees in that game. It
Speaker 1: was one of those early season games and they got
Speaker 1: within a war down and I think what happened. Miami's
Speaker 1: really good on the outside at corner covering. Yeah, Miami's
Speaker 1: got some big inside guys too that kind of make
Speaker 1: it make it a little bit of a problem for
Speaker 1: you to run. But the both games though, the Commanders
Speaker 1: game and then and then the also the game that
Speaker 1: I saw against the Dolphins. Both teams tackled really really
Speaker 1: well in that game. I mean both, I mean they
Speaker 1: both times the Dolphins. I mean they did not give
Speaker 1: They did not give these receivers any space. I went
Speaker 1: back and I was watching that game, and I'm thinking, like, man,
Speaker 1: this is not as good as what you thought at Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Know I didn't see the Philadelphia gave, but we know
Speaker 1: Philadelphia has a really good secondary, you know, so if
Speaker 1: you get up on these guys, press them a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, harass them a little bit. We saw last
Speaker 1: week though, in the Buffalo game. This guy's capable of
Speaker 1: making catches, you know. But all that Buffalo defender had
Speaker 1: to do was not a fourth down in sixteen, was
Speaker 1: knocked the ball away, not try and intercept it, and
Speaker 1: then the game's over, you know. But they try for
Speaker 1: the interception and Jefferson's comes down with the ball. But
Speaker 1: these teams that have these really good secondaries and are
Speaker 1: able to play the run, you know, kind of do
Speaker 1: a much better job against them. Yesterday day, Ron Curse
Speaker 1: and Neville Gallimore both spoke to the media No Patrick
Speaker 1: talk specifically to Neville Gallimore, Patrick Walker Dallas Cowboys dot Com,
Speaker 1: and both of them kind of agree and talked a
Speaker 1: lot about how they think that the fixing that fixing
Speaker 1: the run defense for them is about focus. It's about urgency.
Speaker 1: It's about everybody doing their jobs. Do you guys agree
Speaker 1: that it's that simple? It really is. You got the
Speaker 1: right personnel in place, they just need to be more
Speaker 1: focused on doing their jobs rather than being heroes. And
Speaker 1: do you think that's the right answer. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a scheme though. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: got to it's a commitment to stop in the run
Speaker 1: and not getting yourself out of position and looking for
Speaker 1: the big plays on the outside. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: got to be the players too. The players have to
Speaker 1: buy in. They have to say, all right, we've got
Speaker 1: to stop this run. If we can stop this run,
Speaker 1: then we can do that. I mean, you have to.
Speaker 1: You know, it's this is eating the vegetable so you
Speaker 1: can eat something afterwards. I mean, this is what you
Speaker 1: have to do to do that, and they're not. They're
Speaker 1: not right now, they're trying to make all these plays.
Speaker 1: They're going around blocks, and this starts from the very
Speaker 1: top of the defensive players on that list to the
Speaker 1: bottom all of them. Yeah, absolutely right there. I mean
Speaker 1: to me, it's you know, it's great, as Micah Parsons is.
Speaker 1: You can't run around this these blocks in this league
Speaker 1: and expect to make plays. You know, maybe you get
Speaker 1: away with it when you're playing Indiana and Northwestern and
Speaker 1: you know those people, but you can't do that and
Speaker 1: these not with these backs. Not with these backs, you
Speaker 1: run around blocks, you go behind guys that just that
Speaker 1: just you know, angles and all that stuff. But I
Speaker 1: think that I think Curse is absolutely right. I love
Speaker 1: what he said yesterday. He went in that was a
Speaker 1: he had a purpose with how he figured out how
Speaker 1: to you know, talk into the media. What you know.
Speaker 1: It wasn't calling out teammates, it was calling out position groups.
Speaker 1: He was saying, Hey, we're not very good at defensive
Speaker 1: end because we're getting hooked. You know, We're not very
Speaker 1: good at linebacker because we're not shooting the gap when
Speaker 1: we're supposed to. We're not doing a good enough job
Speaker 1: at safety and corner and filling when we need to fill.
Speaker 1: I mean, he basically he laid it out for you
Speaker 1: the problems that they have. And to Nick's point is
Speaker 1: when you're told to run an assignment like I was
Speaker 1: talking about last week. You know, I learned something yesterday
Speaker 1: about the situation. You know, I thought they were running
Speaker 1: a double twist stunt on the long Jones run that
Speaker 1: went for the touchdown. No, it's a defensive tackle, has
Speaker 1: to be. They're all slant right. It wasn't a double twist.
Speaker 1: It was slant right. And that's what happens if you
Speaker 1: don't slant, if you go the wrong way, it leaves
Speaker 1: a huge hole. That's your responsibility. Know your assignment, execute
Speaker 1: your assignment. That's how you play run defense. You know, effort, assignment,
Speaker 1: and finish. Those are all things involved. And you can't
Speaker 1: have just one of them. You got to have all
Speaker 1: three of them to be good. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what Curse was. And and I didn't hear Neville, but
Speaker 1: I heard Curse. That's what he's pointing out. We have
Speaker 1: to be better at playing our assignments. And then figuring
Speaker 1: out a way to finish when we get an opportunity. Well,
Speaker 1: glad amer I was gonna say that what they both said.
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds simple enough and easy enough, But
Speaker 1: is it I don't think so, because this is nothing new.
Speaker 1: They've been struggling with this since week one, even last year,
Speaker 1: going back to last year. So yes, it wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: hurting them because they were winning games. But now it's
Speaker 1: to the point where okay, now it really is hurting them.
Speaker 1: They don't seem to find the right answer because it's like, yes,
Speaker 1: everybody do their job, and what really really concerns me
Speaker 1: here and I hope we'll see what the term what
Speaker 1: happens this weekend, but it's can't we get to that
Speaker 1: point where now we're just finger pointing at each other
Speaker 1: and now you're creating some kind of division within the
Speaker 1: locker room and we know how that can become like
Speaker 1: and it just goes downhill from there. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're there at this point. I think this is a
Speaker 1: very tight group, competitive and they'll try their best for
Speaker 1: the better of the group, but you do have to
Speaker 1: kind of take a step back and just make sure everybody,
Speaker 1: like all of y'all have been saying, and what they
Speaker 1: were saying, just do your job, you know, don't try
Speaker 1: to go extra because you know, do too much. Just
Speaker 1: focus on what you have to do. And something you mentioned,
Speaker 1: I think it was when you were talking about the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers their defense, I'm pretty sure, but it
Speaker 1: was something that just made me think. You were saying
Speaker 1: how the coach the coordinator likes to keep everybody at
Speaker 1: their position, not really travel guys and move them around,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned how the Cowboys can do that, however,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about that just back there. I'm like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that means the Cowboys defense is pretty good because then
Speaker 1: they can follow and not get too confused and you know,
Speaker 1: just be more creative and what they're doing and confuse
Speaker 1: people a little bit. But then now I'm going back
Speaker 1: to can they be that or do you need to
Speaker 1: take a step back and try to kind of quote
Speaker 1: unquote simplify things a little bit and just make sure
Speaker 1: you just literally go back to basics and do what
Speaker 1: you have to do at your position. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think the thing that fans have to hope for is
Speaker 1: that their pride kicks in a little bit now you're saying,
Speaker 1: will they be willing to do this? They got embarrassed
Speaker 1: last week, and it's all over everything. Everybody is talking
Speaker 1: about this defense that was supposed to be so great,
Speaker 1: and so, you know, one of the best in the league,
Speaker 1: you know, approaching real great things as a defensive unit,
Speaker 1: and now everybody's like, I don't know, like they can't
Speaker 1: stop the run. They got embarrassed last week, and so
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboys fan, you gotta hope that their
Speaker 1: pride kicks in and they're like, whatever we gotta do
Speaker 1: to not have that being what is said of us.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm willing to do. If that means I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna get the sack because I'm gonna stay in
Speaker 1: this gap, and I'm just gonna stay in this gap,
Speaker 1: that means I'm gonna hold this edge, and that means
Speaker 1: i won't get up field, but I'm gonna hold this edge.
Speaker 1: That's what you gotta hope is that their pride kicks
Speaker 1: in at this point, because I don't I think these
Speaker 1: are good players, and if you have good players that
Speaker 1: are committed to their assignment, I think you can do
Speaker 1: what you need to do. They may never be great
Speaker 1: at stopping the run. They can do enough to be
Speaker 1: good enough for their team to be able to function
Speaker 1: and win. What's what's scary and Amber is absolutely right
Speaker 1: about this. What's scary is curse when all the way
Speaker 1: back to San Francisco playoff game, you know, and Amber
Speaker 1: rightfully so brought up you know, Tom Brady didn't have
Speaker 1: to win this game. Neither did Aaron Rodgers. You know,
Speaker 1: it was they ran the football. Yeah, and so you know,
Speaker 1: and this is and this is what you know, Derek's
Speaker 1: talking about two and curse as well. It does become pride.
Speaker 1: It does become like, listen, if you want us just
Speaker 1: to continue to let teams run over us all day,
Speaker 1: then we have the wrong people here, you know. And
Speaker 1: maybe that's what the Cowboys are thinking about too, with
Speaker 1: adding you know, with you know, with adding Tach McKinley
Speaker 1: and those guys like that, that that maybe you know, hey,
Speaker 1: we're not just going to sit here and let this
Speaker 1: just continue on. We're going to try and figure out
Speaker 1: a way to get the right people in here to
Speaker 1: play run defense. If we have to. All right, we're
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Speaker 1: a few more minutes left in the show. Question for
Speaker 1: you guys about Dak, how if right now I ask you,
Speaker 1: how would you characterize Dak's season so far? What would
Speaker 1: you say? Average? It's two and two as a starter,
Speaker 1: and you know, he played really bad in the first loss,
Speaker 1: and uh he was he was okay against Detroit, but
Speaker 1: the defense kind of bailed him out, and then they
Speaker 1: looked worse than the game looked, you know, worse than
Speaker 1: it was. And then then I think he played okay,
Speaker 1: and they played really good against the Bears, I mean
Speaker 1: really good and not okay. He was really really good
Speaker 1: against the Bears and the reason why they blew them
Speaker 1: out because they kept scoring. And then he was just
Speaker 1: okay against Screen Bay made some good plays, but made
Speaker 1: some for the Packers as well. So right now, say's average. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Nick has nailed it right on the head.
Speaker 1: You know, to me that we've talked about it as
Speaker 1: bunge on this platform we have here that throwing the
Speaker 1: ball forty some odd times is not a great thing
Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott, you know, And I personally feel like
Speaker 1: that if Zeke would have played that game, and they
Speaker 1: probably would have had a different game plan. You know,
Speaker 1: with a fourteen point lead, you probably might have seen
Speaker 1: a little bit more Zeke for three, Zeke for four,
Speaker 1: Zeke for four, Zeke for three, Tony for eighteen. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you'd have seen a little bit more of that,
Speaker 1: you know, and you just you know, it's it's there's
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on him to deliver. You know. We
Speaker 1: had Stephen A. Smith on from ESPN. He was on
Speaker 1: station on one oh five three this morning and talking
Speaker 1: about you know, hey, they built a good team around
Speaker 1: this guy. This is on him. It's on if this
Speaker 1: team is going to have success in the seasonal and
Speaker 1: playoffs and Super Bowl. He's capable, and I agree with
Speaker 1: him on that. He just has to be more consistent.
Speaker 1: You know, he just can't have the seventeen play brilliant
Speaker 1: drives of just bam bam bam bam down the field
Speaker 1: every throw, and then the next time go two straight,
Speaker 1: three straight series of three and outs and you know,
Speaker 1: have two three bad throws or turn the ball over,
Speaker 1: you know, and not all the turnovers are his fault.
Speaker 1: But I agree with Nick, it's just there's just it's
Speaker 1: just as it's so inconsistent right now that you kind
Speaker 1: of like you want to get excited and then two
Speaker 1: or three things happen the next series that you're kind
Speaker 1: of like going to a Well, he's just not capable
Speaker 1: of playing any better, And you know, that's kind of
Speaker 1: what we are right now. Yeah, I agree with both
Speaker 1: of them. But if I was killing Moore, if I'm
Speaker 1: kelling Moore, I'm trying to figure out how do I
Speaker 1: get Dak to have a better start? I think, and
Speaker 1: we see it with a few exceptions, you know, and
Speaker 1: you look at through his career, I think that has
Speaker 1: been a persistent problem where he becomes a better player
Speaker 1: in the second half of the game. But how can
Speaker 1: we figure out for him to because if they get
Speaker 1: off to a good start. I think they have way
Speaker 1: better chances of winning games, especially with these all these
Speaker 1: close games. You're taking a lead and protect the ball,
Speaker 1: don't take chances on throws that you don't need to throw.
Speaker 1: But then just and I don't know the answer here.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you get him. How do you
Speaker 1: get the player If he's better, I agree, if he's
Speaker 1: better in the second half, give him more opportunities in
Speaker 1: the second half, and by doing that, lean on your defense,
Speaker 1: even though your defense is having trouble stopping the run
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I would kick off to start,
Speaker 1: if you win the toss, kick off. Two of the
Speaker 1: three games that they they tried to go and be
Speaker 1: very aggressive. In the Detroit game that backfired. Chicago was
Speaker 1: a situation where they scored on the first four possessions
Speaker 1: of the game, and then in Green Bay you're thinking, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, we're gonna take the ball and
Speaker 1: we're gonna drive it, and that doesn't work out very well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd rather not have him start at the
Speaker 1: twenty five yard line and then and then try to
Speaker 1: drive it with the crowd the way it is, that crowd,
Speaker 1: we see it all the time. They know everybody thinks
Speaker 1: halftimes thirty minutes like high school, and it's not. And
Speaker 1: by the time you get back into your seat, it
Speaker 1: is dead as a doornail. In the third quarter, take
Speaker 1: the ball in the dome stadium like that when everyone's
Speaker 1: still not back in your seat, and go drive it down.
Speaker 1: But to start the game, towels are waving and all
Speaker 1: that kind of crap. And then you're gonna get three
Speaker 1: and out and you punt it towards midfield, and then
Speaker 1: now they're going in. If you win the toss, kick
Speaker 1: it off and see if your defense can stop them.
Speaker 1: And if you do, turp In maybe makes a play.
Speaker 1: Now you're starting at the forty forty five yard line
Speaker 1: and you can go in. Did you say this the
Speaker 1: other day? I think you did that, and over time
Speaker 1: you would have taken the wind. I would have you
Speaker 1: mentioned it to me. You mentioned it to me before
Speaker 1: they made the decision. You say it, I think I
Speaker 1: might take the win. And it's not just the wind
Speaker 1: and the and whatever. You know, kick it that way.
Speaker 1: It's not just that. The way the rules are set
Speaker 1: up and the way your defense is and the way
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers had kind of got him carved up. He
Speaker 1: probably was gonna go win it, so that that's probably
Speaker 1: why not. But if it would have been a situation
Speaker 1: where maybe you got something out. I said it in
Speaker 1: New England. I said it the exact same thing in
Speaker 1: New England. I was like, I'm not taking the I've
Speaker 1: taken the wind here and that's what happens. You kick
Speaker 1: it off, Yeah, you stop them. Now all you have
Speaker 1: to do is go get a field goal. If they
Speaker 1: would have been if they would have won the game.
Speaker 1: I thought about this later. They would have won the
Speaker 1: game with a long touchdown. Especially to CD, that game
Speaker 1: would have been exactly like the Patriots game from the
Speaker 1: year before. You're messing around with them, you're better than them,
Speaker 1: You've had turnovers in the red zone, you're keeping them
Speaker 1: in the game. They're not really very good, and then
Speaker 1: they come back and tie the game, and then you
Speaker 1: get to over time and you stop them and you
Speaker 1: go win with a bad weather and all that minutes
Speaker 1: didn't work out. But I think you gotta look at wind,
Speaker 1: and you gotta look at that sometimes. I think that.
Speaker 1: I think, to me that the prospect of and I
Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right. I think the prospect of just
Speaker 1: having to kick a field goal, if you could play
Speaker 1: good enough defense the first time, is a great advantage.
Speaker 1: Scoring that initial touchdown is the hard thing, especially for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, because they're gonna get a holding call along
Speaker 1: the way, or somebody's gonna line up off sides, or
Speaker 1: something's gonna happen, you know, along the way. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's pretty simple, you know, if you got a good
Speaker 1: enough kicker, it's an advantage to take the win and
Speaker 1: kick a fifty yard field goal and get the hell
Speaker 1: out of there, right, you know, then then have to
Speaker 1: try and score touchdown on taking the ball. You know,
Speaker 1: it's weird. Wait till you get to the playoffs and
Speaker 1: a game goes to overtime and now the rules are different.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see a completely different h It's gonna be
Speaker 1: like college a strategy. Teams are not going to take
Speaker 1: the ball now. You want to know what you gotta do, right,
Speaker 1: So now you want to kickoff for sure, right, and
Speaker 1: then make you stop them. Now you'll you do just
Speaker 1: kick a field goal and win. So it's going to
Speaker 1: be completely different structure, which is another reason why we
Speaker 1: were talking about it. You don't make different rules for
Speaker 1: the playoffs now, because there's gonna change the stragg there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a team in Week eighteen like that, Raiders
Speaker 1: and Chargers having to play to get in for a time.
Speaker 1: They get in the next week and then it's a
Speaker 1: completely different you know, that's just stupid. Their playoff to me,
Speaker 1: the playoffs start in mid December. Every game is a
Speaker 1: playoff game for about half the league. There you go,
Speaker 1: it is going to be for sure this year with
Speaker 1: all that's going on. All right, appreciate you guys, Johns.
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We'll give you guys a basically
Speaker 1: our wrap up for the week. Let you know what
Speaker 1: we think is gonna happen this weekend. Cowboys Vergs versus Vikens.
Speaker 1: Till then for Nick Eamon Brian brought us Amber Garcia.
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