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Speaker 3: Greetings, folks, and welcome to Inside American Soccer with Tab

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Speaker 3: is already holding a hockey stick. Tab We might have

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Speaker 3: lost one to hockey already. Man, Like I thought, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a future soccer player. Tab of course, is

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Speaker 3: And are you planning to recruit young Theo Boger back

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think there's time. I think grabbing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully there'll be some grafts to play on, though

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Speaker 3: Let's start with Josh Sargent TAB. He signed with Toronto

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Speaker 3: And then for number three for me, it's still Hodgi

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Speaker 3: right back with our first Inside Rankings segment this week.

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Speaker 3: It's top five MLS players who need to impress Pochettino

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Speaker 3: Soccer with Tom Boger tab Ramos wherever you get your podcast,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Inside American Soccer. Tab had a great

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Speaker 3: idea for a new segment called Inside Rankings, where we

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Speaker 3: and Tab, I'm going to grab the ball. I am,

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Speaker 1: because a little bit like Matt Freeze is this is

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00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: someone who needs to be on cruise control between now

438
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: and the in the end the year, and this is

439
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: Tim reim for me, the first day of you know,

440
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: the MLS has only had one game so far, and

441
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a great one for Tim,

442
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: to be fair, and I wish I could tell you

443
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: it was a one off, but this is what I

444
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: saw at the end of the year last year too

445
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: in MLS.

446
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 2: For Tim Reim. I think Tim Reim.

447
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: Although I believe sort of like maybe like roll down

448
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: and to a certain extent, you know a player I'll

449
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: name later, I think Posatino is going to pick them anyway.

450
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,479
Speaker 1: But I do think that at some point we have

451
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: to think about his position at Charlotte, because what happens

452
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: if Tim Reim all of a sudden doesn't start at Charlotte.

453
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 3: What does that do?

454
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Right? But because this is and by the way, I

455
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: love Tim Reim. He's a great guy. He's been an

456
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: old time national team player that represents there so well,

457
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 1: all of those things, right, But I'm looking purely at

458
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: the soccer part. I mean, there could be a possibility

459
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: that at some point, if Tim Reim doesn't really going

460
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: on a solid cruise control where he's playing well, I

461
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: think he could lose his spot in Charlotte. And if

462
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: he does, what happens next.

463
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, what we saw this weekend and down the stretch

464
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: and specifically then in the playoff series against NYCFC and

465
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: Charlotte were eliminated. He father time has got up to

466
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: him in terms of his speed. He is just not

467
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: able to stay with most attackers in the open field.

468
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: And Simon Betcher this past weekend looks like Gillian and

469
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: Boppe at times. Man just sort of blowing by Tim Reim.

470
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: And to me, Reim is still the best ball playing

471
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: center back in the pool by a mile. Just got

472
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: the classiest left but he reads the game well, but

473
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: physically it's a question of whether or not he can

474
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: keep up. And I think, like you, I think he'll

475
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: be there anyway. I will be scared if Tim Reen

476
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 3: is a starter for the national team this summer. I'm

477
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: gonna say I would not be scared if Christian Roldan

478
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: was starting for the US national team this summer. That's

479
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: my number four pick. When we were talking about Tyler

480
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: Adams before, Rodan is the guy I was thinking of

481
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: who was closest to Tyler Adams in terms of defending

482
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: on the front foot, creating those turnovers. And then he's

483
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: also so good at tilting the field right. He reads

484
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: the game really quickly and is able to dump balls

485
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: into channels or hit those third line passes to feet

486
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: into the half spaces. He's the only field player to

487
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: have played in all six games during that great stretch

488
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 3: last autumn for the US national team. And look, you

489
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: could just tell how much Mauricio Pachettino loves him, and

490
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: you could tell how much the players around him, for

491
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: both club and country, love him. I think Christian Rodan

492
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: over the next month has a chance to claim for

493
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: his own that backup spot to Tyler Adams. Given Tyler's

494
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: health issues, man, that might as well be a starting spot.

495
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 3: So Christian Roldan very high on my list of guys

496
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: who need to continue to impress Mauricio Pochettino.

497
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: This is a good call, and I think he probably

498
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: doesn't need to do a lot to impress Pugettino because

499
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: of all of those things that you just mentioned, and

500
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: above everything else, the value that he has to the

501
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: group in general. He's very well like, he brings guys together,

502
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: he allows the team to be better, He makes the

503
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: team better on and off the field, and he has

504
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: huge value. And besides that, you know you can always

505
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: count somehow on us soccra on giving things away, Right,

506
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: they don't send them to the.

507
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: Super Bowl to do all that stuff.

508
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: If they're not picking them this summer, that's just not happening, right,

509
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: So you can always count on who's done on commercial

510
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: to see who's gonna make the team, because this is

511
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: actually how things work.

512
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you're not gonna pick.

513
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: Roll don to go to the super Bowl and then

514
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: leave him home this summer.

515
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: That's just not gonna happen. So you can count.

516
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: And that's one pick the other twenty five guys you want.

517
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: Right, and that's one.

518
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: But but anyway, no, I agree with you that he

519
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: has all of all of those qualities, and I think

520
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a good pick. But but you know,

521
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: having said all that stuff, let's not forget you play.

522
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: The games have to be played, and he has to

523
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: continue to play well like he's done for the last

524
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: how many years, thirty years. I don't even know he's

525
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: going to Seattle forever, so but he has to continue

526
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: to do what he's doing and it's gonna be He's

527
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna be in good shape.

528
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: Tod, bring us to your number four guys. I so

529
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: you have listed two guys at number four.

530
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: I have a category, and this category will be the

531
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: category of these guys are in, but be careful, right

532
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: and and one is Diego Luna and the next one

533
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: is Miles Robinson. Okay, these are two guys that I

534
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: think if we had a big twenty six today, I'm

535
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable in saying that both of those guys are going.

536
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Now we need to play, and now we need the

537
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: three months of impressing Maurico Bochettino so that no one

538
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: that's playing in Europe will take their spot, right, That's

539
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: that's really what it is. Let's not forget that there's

540
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: a young there's a young Banks playing in Europe right now,

541
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: No Kai Banks, who's doing really well and who likely

542
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: will take a spot, and let that not be Miles

543
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: Robinson spot. I think Miles is in a good spot.

544
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: I think if he continues to play well for Cincinnati,

545
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: he will be there.

546
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: But I think he needs.

547
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: To impress, no question with his ninety minute games. And

548
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: by the way, for a team that's I think highly

549
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: competitive and that will be at the top of at

550
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: the top.

551
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: Of the East, competing for everything on.

552
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: Luna's side obviously didn't play the first game, but I

553
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: think he needs to continue to do what he does,

554
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: and that's make plays in the final third. If he

555
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: continues to do that, that is a position where in particular,

556
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: now that we haven't seen Giorna and I don't know

557
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: how long again, I think that that becomes a position

558
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: that's a little bit more up for grabs, and I

559
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: think Diego Lunad needs to continue to do his job

560
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: and make things happen in the final third.

561
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see him be a little bit

562
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: sharper in those moments. Miles Robinson was actually my third

563
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: guy on the list, so I'm going to expand upon

564
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: the point you made really strong ninety minute performance for

565
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: him this weekend for FC Cincinnati and not just doing

566
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: the stuff that Miles Robinson we all know is good at.

567
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: He's devastating in the open field, running down opposing attackers

568
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: and maybe our best center back in the box just aerially,

569
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: and that's really important. Like we all know that this

570
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: past two years, set pieces have had There's been a

571
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: kind of a revolution in coaching set pieces and more

572
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: and more goals coming off of set pieces. So we

573
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: need guys who are good in the air on that

574
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: back line, and Miles Robinson is really good at both

575
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: those things. What we didn't see from him and from

576
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: Cincinnati last year was real pitch control, using the ball

577
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: and using your spacing to dictate terms. And we actually

578
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: saw some of that this weekend. Granted it was against

579
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: Atlanta's a bad team, so you don't want to read

580
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: too much into it. But if Robinson can sort of

581
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: take some of the chaos out of the game and

582
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: replace it with control, which I think he did in

583
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: Week one, that will go a long way, especially obviously

584
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: if it translates to the US national team. And to

585
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: me to have just intrinsically a pairing of Robinson and

586
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: Chris Richards makes a whole hell of a lot of

587
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: sense for the US if they're both sort of firing

588
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: on cylinders like those guys seem like natural partners to me.

589
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: Yet I agree with that.

590
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: You know, there was one particular play, you know this

591
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: this week in MLS where a ball was sent to

592
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 1: al Maron. I think you'll remember the ball they sent

593
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: out Moron, a little bit of a longer ball and

594
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: you see al Moron running full speed and here comes

595
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: to Miles Robinson at three quarter speed and stick his

596
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: arms out and is a lot faster than that. Sort

597
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: of I think that is the situation that we'll see

598
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: in the World Cup, in particular in the first round,

599
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: where the field is going to be opened up and

600
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: in an open field. You know, Miles Robinson is hard

601
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: to beat. You know, Miles has has good speed, uses

602
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: his body well and I think that was sort of

603
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: the perfect play. And you know, it kind of took

604
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: me into the summer into saying, hey, you know, this

605
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: could happen against Paraguay against the same player, right, or

606
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: it could happen against others. But for the most part,

607
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: in the first round, it's likely that we'll have the

608
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: ball on the opposing side of the field and our

609
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: in our our field will be wide open, and I

610
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: think that's where i'd like to see a player like

611
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: Mike Miles Robinson.

612
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: All Right, I started this list with Matt Freeze, the

613
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: guy who we both think will beware of the number

614
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: one kit. You got a whole list of guys who

615
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: are desperate to catch him. Yeah.

616
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I had to pick as almost a category because I

617
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: do feel like Matt Freeze will be a lock and

618
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: I do feel like if Turner does well in the spring,

619
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: I think he will be a lock also, and mostly

620
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: because I think we just can't throw his experience away.

621
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: He's coming from playing the the last World Cup and

622
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: I think that'll be important to the team.

623
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: Now when it.

624
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: Comes to the number three, I put a list of

625
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Salty, you know Brady Celentano, and I

626
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: think all those guys, and I mean, you could potentially

627
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: throw Stephan in there if you wanted to, but but

628
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: I just think we are looking for a number three.

629
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: Don't forget Clinchman has been doing really well in Syria,

630
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: b in Italy playing for Chase and I and I

631
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: and I and I think he's a He's a legitimate

632
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: contender for the number three spot. So I think all

633
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: three of these guys, Salty, Braiding, Selling Tano are they

634
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: have to show and if there is there is any

635
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: position what we need to impress this is the position.

636
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: And those guys have to be fighting at this point

637
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: for me for the third spot on the roster as

638
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: a goalkeeper. But they definitely have to show this spring.

639
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: Are you disappointed that Gaga Slannina isn't in this discussion,

640
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: given how good he was a few years ago at

641
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: such a young age for Chicago, and then he makes

642
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: that big move to Chelsea and he's he's kind of

643
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: dropped off the face of the earth.

644
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, those moves to Chelsea, they're not always great.

645
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: You know, we have a lot of history with that.

646
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: Me Aska, There's a bunch of guys who made that

647
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: move and it didn't necessarily pan out. I am surprised.

648
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm surprised because you know, five, six, seven years ago

649
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: we thought of him as the next great right and uh,

650
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: he had that potential, not saying that he couldn't be.

651
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, goalkeeping is one of those positions where you

652
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: can get you get better as you get older, and

653
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: you can potentially potentially play into your late thirties and

654
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: play really well into your late thirties. So I do

655
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: think there's still a chance. I just don't think he

656
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: put himself in position right now to battle, and that

657
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: is a disappointment for me.

658
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Two guys who did put themselves in position to battle,

659
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: one who I think is very clearly in the pool

660
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: and one who's a reach. Jack McGlenn for the Houston Dynamo,

661
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 3: who has been part of Murcio Pochettino's camp has one

662
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: of the best, like the best left foot in the world. Man,

663
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 3: Like he's in that discussion, you know, non Leo Messi category. Anyway,

664
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: just absolutely devastating set piece delivery. Played one of the

665
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: best passes you'll ever see this weekend for Houston's opener.

666
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: Was playing deeper as number eight. Has also played as

667
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: a number ten. Incredible vision hits, those disguised passes across

668
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: his hips through ball artist. And then there's like a

669
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: Jack McGlenn clone in San Jose playing for Bruce Arena

670
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: named Niko Chakiris, who was a product of the Quakes academy,

671
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 3: who was arguably the best player on the USU twenty

672
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: team this past year. He's wearing the number ten for

673
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: the Quakes. Had an assist this weekend, was involved in

674
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: all three of their goals. He's a true number ten.

675
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: McGlenn is in the picture. I understand shakirass a reach,

676
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: but we have seen this from Mauricio Pochettino. Before young

677
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: player gets his opportunity. Young player impresses, young player gets

678
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: called into camp. Do either of these guys have a

679
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: chance for you?

680
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: Tab I'll start by saying no, that they don't, but

681
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: I'll follow I'll follow that by saying that I love both.

682
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: Of these guys there. These are good players.

683
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: You know, Jack McGlenn, I think he's played in a

684
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: better position for himself. Now if you recall, you know

685
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: he did it. It seemed like for a bunch of

686
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: years in Philadelphia playing that sort of with drawn number eight,

687
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: but on the left side, right serving balls. You know,

688
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: Jack is just such a great player. He's fun to watch.

689
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: He does everything well. If there was anything that Jack

690
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: lacks is getting into the box a little bit more.

691
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: He's not a guy that gets into the box. He

692
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: always ends up about twenty yards out. I'd like to

693
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: see him do that more. But I certainly feel like

694
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: I know I started by saying no, they don't have

695
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: a chance, but I do feel like if they, If

696
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: he in particular got picked for the national team, it

697
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: would not necessarily surprise me because he deserves to be there.

698
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: He's a good player. So Jack being on the field

699
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: in the World Cup this summer, number one would not

700
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: scare him, and number two he belongs. So I'll have

701
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: to say no only because of the numbers we have

702
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: in front of them. But not because he doesn't belong

703
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: in terms of securities. I agree with you that this

704
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: summer or last summer in the World Cup, he and

705
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Reigns were the best two players that we had

706
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: who were consistent pretty much every game. I think Nico's

707
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more of an attacking player than Jack is.

708
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: He's a little bit more of a creator. He's a

709
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: little bit more technical in terms of getting out of,

710
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: you know, tight things and being more of a true ten.

711
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: I think he's he's a creator. I think it's a

712
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: little bit late for him to get on this. But again,

713
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: I will say that you know you have a twenty

714
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: six man roster.

715
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: Out of the twenty.

716
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: Six players, it's likely that you will play your whole

717
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: World Cup with eighteen or seventeen or nineteen, right, So

718
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: maybe you want to add a couple of younger guys

719
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: in the end to give him that experience. I know

720
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: I would, and I would not be against you know,

721
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Securia as being one of those, because I think he

722
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: has the talent for that, and he's one of the

723
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: guys in the next generation coming along. So I agree

724
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: with both these players on you that with you that

725
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: they need to impress, and they will impress because they're

726
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: good players. I just think that they're they're they're a

727
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: long shot.

728
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too, but I felt the need

729
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: to mention them because they are two of my favorite

730
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: players to watch in MLS. It's nice to see MLS

731
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: academies producing really classy, sort of almost South American coded

732
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: attacking players. It reminds me of the Tabromos days a

733
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: little bit. For the longest time, tab US soccer fans

734
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: gonna say, why is tab the only one we've ever

735
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: produced who plays like this? And now is a bit

736
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: by bit there seems to be more from your lineage,

737
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 3: like this is your legacy as a US soccer Great

738
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: to see players like this coming out of our academies.

739
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, obviously can't take credit for any of that,

740
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: but it's nice to hear those things sometimes. I am

741
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: happy that that we do have a bunch of creative

742
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: players coming along who can who can make plays out

743
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: of nothing, you know, and and that's that's encouraging. And

744
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: certainly the two players you just mentioned are are are

745
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: this way.

746
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: Let's move a little bit deeper into midfield for your

747
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: next pick.

748
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my last two picks, and I'll start with

749
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: the number two would be for me, it would be

750
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 1: Sebastian Burrholter because I think, you know, with the way

751
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: the central part of midfield is is laying out, he's

752
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: becoming a little bit of a long shot and he

753
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: has a shot at this right but but it goes

754
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, part of him having a shot is exactly

755
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: what this list is about, which is impressing Marisa Putchettino

756
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: over the next three or four.

757
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: Months in MLS.

758
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: And I think he needs to do that, and he

759
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: needs to do that game in and game out. And

760
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: by the way, I've never seen the kid take a

761
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: day off, so it's not like he's not going to.

762
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: I expect him to do exactly what he's doing and

763
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: continue to do that.

764
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: He is a good player.

765
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways in which he can help

766
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: this national team. And I hope he just has that

767
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: consistency through the spring that he has always had. But

768
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: he's certainly won the NISSA impress.

769
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: All right, and why don't you give us our number

770
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: one and then I'll bring us out with my number

771
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: one pick.

772
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll go right to the number one. The

773
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: number one is one that I think is a long shot.

774
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: But if there's someone who needs to impress, that would

775
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: be Josh Sargent. I think as we mentioned, and you

776
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: started the show by saying, hey, if you're a forward

777
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: and you score goals, you always have a chance.

778
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: Right.

779
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: He's a forward and he scores goals, and he will

780
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: score goals, and I think that he is the number

781
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: one guy that needs to impress this spring to get

782
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: into that picture of being one of likely four forwards

783
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: that Mauricio Pochettino is going to pick.

784
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: I think he has a shot at it.

785
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a long shot, but if there's someone

786
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: out there that needs to impress, it certainly is Josh Sargent.

787
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel bad for him because it almost feels

788
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: like the door was closed on his opportunity last year

789
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 3: when he did get into camp and he didn't impress

790
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: and agimn did and like it almost feels like it's

791
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: too late. But as you said, as you know, over

792
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: the past month i've been hosting this show, I've got

793
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: to talk with folks like Marcello Balboa, Clint Mathis, who

794
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: knows a thing or two about scoring goals for the

795
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: national team. If you get hot at the right time

796
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 3: in the two months leading up to the World Cup,

797
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: in the six months leading up to the World Cup,

798
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: whatever it is, you are a consistent goal scorer as

799
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: a number nine. Everybody pays attention to that because that

800
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: is the job. It's what I was talking about with

801
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: the crowded Peppi before. It's what we're talking about with

802
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: Josh Sargent. That's what I'm going to talk about with

803
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: my number one pick, seventeen year old Julian Hall. MLS

804
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: Player of the Week from match Day one. He had

805
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: a brace for the Red Bulls down in Orlando. They

806
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: were the only road team to win this weekend. He

807
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 3: was awesome in combo play and he was I thought,

808
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: really polished and patient and smart in front of goal

809
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: to find those tappens that the Red Bulls patterns of

810
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: play was creating. The number one skill for a center

811
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: forward is to find easy chances. If you can do

812
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: that consistently, then you will keep scoring. We've seen that

813
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 3: again and again and again. It translates up. Julian Hall

814
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: is just seventeen, probably not there physically, but if he

815
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: plays like one of the best center forwards in MLS,

816
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: is there any reason for Mauricio Pachettino to ignore him.

817
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: Is there any reason for him to say, oh, this

818
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: kid said, well, he's gonna turn eighteen next month. Oh,

819
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: this eighteen year old kid, he's too young. He's not.

820
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: If he's doing the job, you have to pay attention.

821
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: Isn't that the rule?

822
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Wow? I really like this pick actually because as you know,

823
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm not a stats guy, but I

824
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: believe he's averaging two goals a game in his professional

825
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: career and first visit. So that's pretty good, right. That

826
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: will put him up with anyone. Right, So, no, I

827
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: I agree with all those things, Matt.

828
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: I have to say. His movement is great.

829
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: When you talk about you know what what makes up

830
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: a great forward, and that is someone who gets in

831
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: front of in front of goal at the right time.

832
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: He does that, he combines, he has good feet and

833
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: uh so he has all the tools to be you know,

834
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: if we were going to put him into I would

835
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: take him back into that that that U securies category

836
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: where you say, okay, maybe the back of your roster

837
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: you have some guys for the future.

838
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: Obviously, what we have to think about.

839
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: With with him at this point is that it's only

840
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: been one game, right, so we have to wait and

841
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: see what the consistency looks like. But he certainly as

842
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: an opportunity to impress. Uh And and you know, I

843
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: think he was named the player of the week this week,

844
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: so so because of that, the eyes are going to

845
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: be on him. So he's not going to be a

846
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: surprise any longer. Teams get the scouted scout him a

847
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: little bit more. So, let's see how he reacts to,

848
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, people sort of playing his strengths a little

849
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: bit more, right, because that obviously happens by other teams.

850
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: In terms of the physicality, which you mentioned. You know,

851
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: this always happens with young players until young players are

852
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: really good and then at that point physicality.

853
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter anymore.

854
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, you know, you got to give you

855
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: a perfect example Pedria Barcelona. Right, He's the little guy

856
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: that if you see him at the at the bakery tomorrow,

857
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: you would never think this guy is like a world superstar,

858
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: the best player, yeah, the best player, potentially the best player.

859
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: In the world. Right, and he looks like he.

860
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Should be working in the bakery actually instead of going

861
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: to bike bread. But so so the physicality that's something

862
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: that I think great player payers overcome because you know,

863
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: let's not forget defenders are not faster than the ball,

864
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: So if you and the ball are gone by the

865
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: time defenders get there, it really doesn't matter how.

866
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: Small you are.

867
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, young players eventually the good

868
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: ones get to that level.

869
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 2: But I do like, I do like this call.

870
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: You know, Hall was great the first week, and I

871
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: think he I don't see a reason why he's not

872
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: going to continue to be great. But let's get with

873
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: him through his ups and downs, which I think he

874
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: will inevitably have.

875
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess we'll start a Julian Hall monitor for

876
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: the rest of the show, for the next couple of months,

877
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 3: to see if he has any chance of cracking Mauricio

878
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: Pochettino's twenty twenty six US World Cup roster. It would

879
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: be quite a story. I think he is pretty clearly

880
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 3: the best center hord prospect the US has produced since

881
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: Ricardo Peppi, maybe even longer than that. It's exciting to

882
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: see a seventeen year old play as well as he

883
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: did this week. One of multiple kids on that Red

884
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Bull team, by the way, who played excellent ball this

885
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: week and Adrian Metti, the sixteen year old defensive midfielder

886
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: arguably even better than Julie All in this one. And

887
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 3: by the way, he's a dual national. Morocco are all

888
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: over him, so we have a real dual national Panic

889
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: for the first time in a couple of years. If

890
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: you are a US men's national team, Sicco, the Red

891
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: Bulls are probably your team of choice to start watching

892
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: this MLS season. And we'll be all over on this

893
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: show in the coming weeks. And for now, though, it's

894
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 3: time for one more break and we're gonna hear from

895
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: tab on a pivotal moment in the US national team

896
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: back in nineteen ninety five. Thank you all for listening

897
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 3: to Inside American Soccer. Please rate review, can't subscribe. Welcome

898
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: back to Inside American Soccer, where we're gonna take you

899
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 3: inside the locker room a little over thirty years ago. Actually, now,

900
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: we talk a lot about the nineteen ninety four World

901
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: Cup on this show. I think everybody talks about that

902
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: because it was such a seminal moment for soccer in

903
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: North America, and I think we all see this coming

904
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 3: summer through that. Lens hope that twenty twenty six can

905
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: do for the US in Canada what nineteen ninety four did,

906
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: at least in part. But there also needs to be

907
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: some thought about what comes next. And the guy I'm

908
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: with right now, Tamravos, was a huge part of what

909
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: comes next. And really, tab you were talking and it

910
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 3: was sort of the professionalization of the game here starting

911
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: really in nineteen ninety five, after all the confetti and

912
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 3: all the you know, going on a letterman in Leno

913
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: and whatever else happened for you guys, stickers commercials. It

914
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: was a different era starting in nineteen ninety five. So

915
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: take us back to that time and what you guys

916
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: were doing and what it meant.

917
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I always, I always have fun going

918
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: back to these stories, although I feel like i'm you know,

919
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling everyone the bedtime story and I don't know

920
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: how many people want to hear it, but uh, but

921
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, there are Here's the important part about this.

922
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: I really I've had the you know, I've been fortunate

923
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: enough to have seen sort of the development of the

924
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: sport of the last three thirty forty years. You know,

925
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: that's that's probably the only advantage to being old, because

926
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything else. But I but I,

927
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: but I can tell you that there are certain moments

928
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: that I think were I could see the evolution of

929
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: soccer in this country coming along right. And and one

930
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: of those moments, obviously, is late nineteen eighty nine when

931
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: the team qualifies of the World Cup for the first

932
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: time in forty years, and then the next five years

933
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: become hey, you know, we host the World Cup and

934
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: now we're competitive, and now we beat England and we

935
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: be you know what are Italy and or Brazil or

936
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: you know. You get all these friendly, great results that

937
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: you're happy about, and then work up ninety four comes

938
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: and all the lights are on and everybody's paying attention,

939
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: and like you said, everyone's going out all the morning

940
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: shows and everything else that has to do with the

941
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: publicity of great moments. And then and then that goes away,

942
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: and now we find ourselves with the reality of okay, well,

943
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: now we got to keep moving the ball forward.

944
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: How do we do that?

945
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: Right?

946
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: And so I look back in nineteen ninety five as

947
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: a pivotal moment because I think although ninety four was great,

948
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: I think it was the culmination of the beginning of

949
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: soccer being back on the map, right it was eighty

950
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: nine through ninety four, and it was great and it

951
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: was exciting. And now now we need to play with

952
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: the big boys. And now we need to play with

953
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: the big boys for real. Now it's not just showing

954
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: up and being the underdog and you know, and and

955
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: and showing everybody that you know, us play soccer, and

956
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: now it needs Now we need to become competitive. And

957
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: I think nineteen ninety five was the year where that

958
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: started to happen. We and that's US Soccer selected to

959
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: go to Cope America, which they they don't always participate in.

960
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: We've only been to you know what four or five

961
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: in the history, right, we don't go every time. That

962
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: was only I think the second time that US had

963
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: participated in the Cope America.

964
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: So it wasn't happening.

965
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: And and we go the Cope Americas in Uruguay nineteen

966
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: ninety five, and we go there and the first thing

967
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: that happened when we got there is we had a

968
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: player's strike. We decided that we had been hearing about, Hey,

969
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's hundreds of millions that this World Cup left,

970
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: and you know, and you know, like like player unions,

971
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: players unions usually do is they try to say, well,

972
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: you know, what's in the in for the players, because

973
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're the ones on

974
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: the field, right and we sort of need to get

975
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: compensated for that as well.

976
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: So we went into the first game.

977
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: We started the Cope America that year by playing Chile

978
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: the first game, but we didn't practice before that game

979
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: because we were on strike, so we're in Cope America,

980
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: didn't go to practice and actually play the game and

981
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: beat Chile in the first game, but it.

982
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: Was the first time. But we had negotiations with.

983
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: The federation where we just basically said, if if we

984
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: don't get X, Y, and Z, then we're not playing.

985
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: And at that point, you know, there comes to negotiations.

986
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: Of course, agents are always involved because they're always involved

987
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: in this stuff. I would say to make this, to

988
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: make things worse, but let's just keep that between us,

989
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: and it became a negotiation. Obviously, we all agreed to

990
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: move forward and we played in that Cope America, and

991
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: not only did we play in it, but then we

992
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: showed that we really could compete. Because if nineteen ninety

993
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: four can always be chalked up to, yeah, you played

994
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: some good teams and you knocked out, you know, Columbia,

995
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: which was a great opponent, but at the end of

996
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: the day, it was the underdog, you know, getting the

997
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: big result. I think cope America now became hey, we

998
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: have our feet on the ground and we know we

999
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: can play, and we have a full professional squad with

1000
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: players playing everywhere, and now we need to compete toe

1001
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: to toe with big countries in South America. And we

1002
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: went down there, beat Chile the first game, lost to

1003
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: Bolivia second game, but then beat Argentina the third game

1004
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: in one of the great victories of US soccer three

1005
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: zero took first place in the group and ended up

1006
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: in fourth place. We lost to Brazil later on in

1007
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: the tournament, ended up in fourth place. But also so

1008
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: that was the beginning of us being okay here we

1009
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: are really competitive. But there was another side to it

1010
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 1: that I think was it was the birth of the

1011
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: truly good young players coming along.

1012
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: Right.

1013
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: It was the first time we got to see like

1014
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: a Clodia Arena and his skill set and what he.

1015
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: Had to offer.

1016
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: And for all of us having been on the national team,

1017
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: let's not forget there's a little generation of players of

1018
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, myself and Eric Ranalo marself about Boa and maybe, well,

1019
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: I think Tony wasn't on the team by then already,

1020
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: but those guys we had been together since like nineteen

1021
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: eighty eight, so I had been seven eight years of

1022
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: being on the national team, so that's sort of a

1023
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: long time. And now we started to see these young

1024
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: players like Claudia, who's we were really impressed by because

1025
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: they had all the tools. We saw Yovann Korovski all

1026
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden signed at Manchester United and he was

1027
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: on their youth team and he was coming along. So

1028
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: I think that I think nineteen ninety five, If nineteen

1029
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: ninety four became the birth of let's say, soccer fans

1030
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: following the team, nineteen ninety five became the birth of

1031
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: what we now know, all of our players starting to

1032
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: go overseas and seeing that's when we started to see

1033
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: players like, you know, obviously Claudia, I mentioned Yovann Korowski,

1034
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: who was great, Brad Friedel who came along to the

1035
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: national team and then became you know, think about it,

1036
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: who can match Brad Friedel's career. I don't think anyone

1037
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: can ken in US soccer yet with what he did

1038
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: in the EPL, So I think in a bunch of

1039
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: different ways it became a sort of a professional national

1040
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: team for the first time.

1041
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 3: So let's let's make an analogy then, right, So if

1042
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty sixth version of what you guys did

1043
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety four, now you guys made it out

1044
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: of the group nineteen ninety four, people didn't expect you

1045
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: to played really well against Brazil in that round of sixteen.

1046
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 3: Brazil obviously went on to win, but it was it

1047
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: was a brave and gutty performance from you guys won

1048
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 3: a lot of respect. The twenty twenty sixth version of

1049
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: that for the US men's national team would be what

1050
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: making it all the way back to the quarterfinals, going

1051
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: up a against the Brazil or an Argentina, maybe even

1052
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: making it to the semi finals, and laying down a

1053
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: marker and saying, Okay, this is where we are now,

1054
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: this is what we can do when the stars align

1055
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 3: and everything is clicking. This is who we are as

1056
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: a national team. Then the twenty twenty seven version of that,

1057
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: the step forward professionally for the national team that you

1058
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: guys experienced and really drove in nineteen ninety five. What

1059
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 3: would that be for the US in twenty twenty six

1060
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: or twenty twenty seven, in twenty twenty eight and beyond, Like,

1061
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 3: what from your perspective, needs to happen for the US

1062
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: to make that next professional jump.

1063
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think now we're at a point

1064
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: where you know, we have a great team.

1065
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: We're no longer the underdog.

1066
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: At the World Cup, which is already a big, big

1067
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: task to go there as favorites to win our group

1068
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: and to advance let's say at the very least around

1069
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: the sixteen is It's sort of that's assumed by everyone

1070
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: at this point, right, because if we were not to

1071
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: do that, that means that we likely lost the teams

1072
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: that we were not supposed to lose to. So it's

1073
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: a more difficult situation to be in. But now to

1074
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: answer your question, you know, I've picked some moments of

1075
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: evolution of the game. So what would be the next

1076
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: moment of evolution? And I think now for US, I

1077
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: think we can put ourselves in this World Cup by

1078
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: potentially participating in a quarterfinal or in a semifinal, where

1079
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: we can cement sort of the competitiveness of our program

1080
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: number one worldwide because I think we already have a

1081
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: lot of respect worldwide from other countries. I don't think

1082
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: there's a country out there right now that can say, hey,

1083
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: we play the US. This is going to be an

1084
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: easy game. There isn't a single one. And you can

1085
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Speaker 1: pick France, you can pick England, you can pick Brazil.

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Speaker 2: Or Argentine or anyone.

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Speaker 1: They know that they're in for a battle that they

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Speaker 1: have to give their best, can they when Yeah, of

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Speaker 1: course there's a good chance that those teams will beat us,

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Speaker 1: but they will only beat us at their best. It's

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Speaker 1: unlikely that they will beat us with anything else. So

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Speaker 1: that's a good place to be. But I think Matt,

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Speaker 1: if I were to say the evolution and our next battle,

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Speaker 1: I think the next battle is more at home. Our

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Speaker 1: next battle is how do we become a bigger sport

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Speaker 1: in our home? And that's I think that's the toughest

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Speaker 1: obstacle at this point, because as you continue to see

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Speaker 1: the numbers, and you continue to see MLS grow, and

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Speaker 1: you continue to see our players doing better and our

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Speaker 1: players being more competitive overseas, how are we making sort

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Speaker 1: of that? How are we making that shortcut? And I

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Speaker 1: do see the numbers that obviously you read as well,

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Speaker 1: But it's hard for me to believe now when I

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Speaker 1: look at the NFL and I look at, you know,

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, and I look at the NBA, and

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Speaker 1: then I look, are we more popular than golf?

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Speaker 2: Are we?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: I don't think we are.

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Speaker 1: Are we more popular than college football? College basketball? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can name seven or eight sports that you can

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Speaker 1: legitimately go to a bar and say those sports are

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Speaker 1: a lot more popular than soccer. Those sports are what

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Speaker 1: people talk about. So I think our next evolution has

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Speaker 1: to be how do we get to become one of those?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you have the answer to that, you

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Speaker 3: might be the next MLS commissioner, because I think the

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Speaker 3: guys in charge they've been looking for that as for

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Speaker 3: the long time. Obviously a ton of progress with the

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Speaker 3: league a long way to go. I think the keyword

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Speaker 3: is culture. Culture wins on every level in every sport.

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Speaker 3: If your country has a good colt Tavas, Uruguay, and

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Speaker 3: and in terms of culture, everybody asks how doesguy punch

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Speaker 3: above their weight so consistently for such a small country.

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Speaker 3: It's because of the culture of soccer there gave us

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Speaker 3: one of our greatest players of all time. It gives

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Speaker 3: us one of the favorites watch in the World Cup

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Speaker 3: every four years, and he gave us a great talk

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Speaker 3: today on this show. So thank you all for joining

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Speaker 3: me and tab on this episode of Inside American Soccer.

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Speaker 3: Will be back next week. I'll still be hosting. We

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Speaker 3: will give you an update on Young Theo Bogert's progress

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Speaker 3: on the for check if he has started beating Tom

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Speaker 3: in the head with the hockey stick that he is

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Speaker 3: trying desperately to master already. So thank you for joining us,

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Speaker 3: and don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, do all the

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Speaker 3: things on all the socials TikTok, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube.

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Speaker 3: And thank you for joining us, folks. We will see

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Speaker 3: you next week.