WEBVTT - Modern Inventions That Are Actually Old

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly

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<v Speaker 1>Frye and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. I will talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the genesis of this episode on Friday's episode, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>very silly, but it was born, like so many of

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<v Speaker 1>our topics, out of just seeing something and asking off

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<v Speaker 1>handedly when was that invented? Which I do a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>This led me to look that up and it came

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<v Speaker 1>as a surprise regarding its timing, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that thing, but I also knew that that

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<v Speaker 1>was not a media enough topic for a whole episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so I decided I would group it with some other

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<v Speaker 1>inventions that were made well before I would have thought,

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<v Speaker 1>probably most people would have thought. There are so many

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<v Speaker 1>things in our modern world that people presume our fairly

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<v Speaker 1>recent inventions that aren't. We talk about things like that

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and often that is the result of

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<v Speaker 1>like what I call this sort of present tense hubris,

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<v Speaker 1>where we can't imagine another time or culture needing or

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<v Speaker 1>inventing the things that we use today. But I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the three things that we're talking about in this

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<v Speaker 1>instance seem, at least to my mind, pretty valid in

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<v Speaker 1>presuming that they are more modern than they are, in

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<v Speaker 1>part because they all have close associations with the recent past.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them, the thing that inspired this episode, is

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite inventions of all time. So for

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing we're going to talk about, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to go all the way back to the early Common

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<v Speaker 1>era and a scientist known as Heron of Alexandria. Some

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<v Speaker 1>texts give his name as Hero. He's sometimes described as

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<v Speaker 1>being Egyptian because he lived in Alexandria. Other times he's

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<v Speaker 1>described as Greek. Some accounts list both. He was likely

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<v Speaker 1>born in Greece. He lived at a time of Greco

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<v Speaker 1>Roman dominance throughout the Mediterranean, and Egypt was a Roman province.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of the accounts agree he was very, very smart.

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<v Speaker 1>He was well educated. He understood and wrote about mathematics

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<v Speaker 1>and mechanics from all over the Mediterranean and Mesopotamia. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a whole lot of biographical information about him,

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<v Speaker 1>though he's believed to have been born sometime early in

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<v Speaker 1>the first century. We know he was alive in the

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<v Speaker 1>year sixty two because he mentioned an eclipse in his

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<v Speaker 1>writing that's known to have taken place that year. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>else we know about Heron is what he recorded in

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<v Speaker 1>his writings. He wrote a lot about mathematics and mechanics,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing autobiographical. Yeah, if you look up the dates

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<v Speaker 1>associated with his life, they are all over the map.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people that will put his date of birth

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<v Speaker 1>at around the year zero or one, and other people

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<v Speaker 1>that will put his death at around one hundred. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's possible, but not super probable at this

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<v Speaker 1>point in time that he could have lived through the

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<v Speaker 1>entire first century. But in any case, his work is

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<v Speaker 1>influential in our lives in a number of small ways.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, if you've ever used the idiom that someone

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<v Speaker 1>has made one hundred and eighty degree turn in changing

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<v Speaker 1>their position or their opinion on something, you can thank Heron,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in part. The idea of a circle being

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<v Speaker 1>divided by three hundred and sixty units known as degrees,

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<v Speaker 1>actually originated in Babylonia, which used a base sixty system

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<v Speaker 1>for mathematics, but Heron is credited with adopting it and

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<v Speaker 1>teaching it widely in the technical school he founded in

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandria and writing about it in his books. But Beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>his own work predates a lot of similar work, often

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<v Speaker 1>by hundreds of years. His math writings include Mechanica, which

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<v Speaker 1>included information about the workings of levers and how they

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<v Speaker 1>can be used to bear loads, as well as velocity

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<v Speaker 1>and the use of friction discs to create very ratios.

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<v Speaker 1>These discs or the basics of the kinds of drives

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<v Speaker 1>that would be described as transmissions today. They can transfer

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<v Speaker 1>torque to rotating parts at variable speeds depending on the

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<v Speaker 1>ratio selected in Heron's writings. All of this information was

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<v Speaker 1>intended to help architects manage building projects by providing them

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<v Speaker 1>ways to more efficiently transport and lift heavy loads in construction.

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<v Speaker 1>His book Dioptera is essentially a manual for measurement. It

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<v Speaker 1>includes descriptions of various measuring instruments, including a diopter. It

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<v Speaker 1>also included a method to measure distance traveled by a wheel.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of this book is about how to measure

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<v Speaker 1>distance in the interest of land surveying purposes. Heron's three

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<v Speaker 1>volume work Metrica was all about geometry that covered topics

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<v Speaker 1>like the measurement of geometric figures. There are formulas for

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<v Speaker 1>using the lengths of a triangle's sides to calculate its area,

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<v Speaker 1>and a method for finding the square root of a

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<v Speaker 1>non square number. Metrica was actually lost for a very

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. This book was mentioned in the writings

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<v Speaker 1>of Utosius of Ascalon, who lived in the late fifth

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<v Speaker 1>and early sixth centuries, but its contents were a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in the eighteen sixties there was a mention of

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<v Speaker 1>an eleventh century manuscript in a library in Constantinople that

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<v Speaker 1>might contain some of Heron's writings. But this wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>library just anybody could visit. There were hoops to jump

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<v Speaker 1>through just to get permission to enter. It wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen ninety six that German archaeologist and head of the

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<v Speaker 1>Royal Museum of Berlin, Richard Shone, was able to identify

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<v Speaker 1>that a copy of Metrica was indeed contained in that manuscript.

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<v Speaker 1>Shona's Sun Hermann published the first critical edition of Metrica

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen oh three. Haron wrote other books, and even

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<v Speaker 1>more have been attributed to him that are almost certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not his work, But the book that's most Germane today

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<v Speaker 1>is Pneumatics. In that work, he describes a variety of

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<v Speaker 1>mechanical devices featuring so many concepts we might think of

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<v Speaker 1>as fairly modern gas power, water power, steam power, atmospheric pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>and pumps, among others. But the section related to today's

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<v Speaker 1>topic is automata. He offers a little bit of multi

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<v Speaker 1>entry for this episode because he invented a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things that were far far ahead of his time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he also, just to avoid confusion, did also write another

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<v Speaker 1>book called Automata. But the things we're talking about are

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<v Speaker 1>in this book pneumatics, and the first one that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about is the eolapile, which is today

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes also called a hero motor named after him. So

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<v Speaker 1>Heron had concluded that air is elastic and that it

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<v Speaker 1>consists of particles that move relative to one another. He

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially onto the idea of airflow and air mechanics,

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<v Speaker 1>although he didn't have it all figured out, and these

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<v Speaker 1>are concepts that Irish chemist robber Boyle was still working

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<v Speaker 1>to understand when he created what is often credited as

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<v Speaker 1>the first functioning air pump in the mid sixteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>and Heron's understanding of airflow and how it could be

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<v Speaker 1>impacted by heat led him to develop a rudimentary steam engine,

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<v Speaker 1>the eola pile is something that modern teachers and hobbyists

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<v Speaker 1>recreate all the time, but there's a slight difference in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that these modern versions function compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>one that Heron described in pneumatics. Modern variations often consist

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<v Speaker 1>of a hollow sphere filled with water, which is suspended

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<v Speaker 1>over heat source by two arms. As that water heats up,

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<v Speaker 1>the steam is released through two short armlike valves on

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<v Speaker 1>the sphere's equator, and that causes it to rotate. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a rudimentary steam turbine that creates a rotary motion.

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<v Speaker 1>But in Heron's original version, that water is actually contained

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<v Speaker 1>in a base vessel. He describes it as a call

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<v Speaker 1>caldron with a fitted lid that the ball is suspended over.

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<v Speaker 1>From that cauldron are two tubes. These are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that the sphere is suspended with, but they're hollow tubes

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<v Speaker 1>that carry steam from the cauldron as it's heated and

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<v Speaker 1>into the sphere, which builds up until it releases that

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<v Speaker 1>steam through the equatorial valves, and that's what results in

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<v Speaker 1>the spinning motion. Similar mechanics would not be implemented for

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<v Speaker 1>practical use until the seventeenth century, but Heron's machine had

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<v Speaker 1>no practical use. It was not intended for any type

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<v Speaker 1>of job. It was built as an exploration and examination

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<v Speaker 1>of the effects of heat and air and steam combining,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the first century it was considered nothing more

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<v Speaker 1>than a fancy toy. There just was not a vision

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<v Speaker 1>of how this technology could be used. Yeah, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think of it as like the mechanical desk toys

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<v Speaker 1>that executives might have on their tests, Like this is neat,

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<v Speaker 1>look at spins when I heat it up. But it

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<v Speaker 1>could have spletely change the world if they had been

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<v Speaker 1>like I bet we could apply this to a vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>The other hair and invention, which is similar in concept

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<v Speaker 1>to modern machines and really is the focus of like

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<v Speaker 1>the precursor to a modern machine in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>context of this episode, is called in his book sacrificial vessel,

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<v Speaker 1>which flows only when money is introduced. This was a

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<v Speaker 1>very rudimentary vending machine, and here is how Heron described it. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>if into certain sacrificial vessels, a coin of five drachms

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<v Speaker 1>be thrown, water shall flow out and surround them. Let

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<v Speaker 1>the example diagram be a sacrificial vessel or treasure chest

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<v Speaker 1>having an opening in its mouth, and in the chest

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<v Speaker 1>let there be a vessel containing water and a small

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<v Speaker 1>box from which a pipe conducts out of the chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Near the vessel place a vertical rod about which turns

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<v Speaker 1>a lever widening into the plate parallel to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the vessel, while at the extremity is and a

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<v Speaker 1>lid which fits into the box so that no water

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<v Speaker 1>can flow through the tube. This lid, however, must be

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<v Speaker 1>heavier than the plate, but lighter than the plate and

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<v Speaker 1>coin combined. When the coin is thrown through the mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>it will fall upon the plate, and preponderating it will

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<v Speaker 1>turn the beam and raise the lid of the box

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<v Speaker 1>so that the water will flow. But if the coin

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<v Speaker 1>falls off, the lid will descend and close the box

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<v Speaker 1>so that the discharge ceases. More simply, this setup had

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<v Speaker 1>a plate attached to a lever that would tilt just

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<v Speaker 1>enough to open a valve that allowed water to flow out.

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<v Speaker 1>The coin would slide off the plate as it tilted,

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<v Speaker 1>and once it fell off, the lever would return to

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<v Speaker 1>its original position, closing the valve. This vessel looked sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like a semovar. That's a metal urn used to

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<v Speaker 1>make and serve tea, and its intent was to dispense

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<v Speaker 1>holy water at temples. He also created another vessel that

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<v Speaker 1>would dispense wine as water was poured into a separate compartment,

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<v Speaker 1>but as the water dispenser was strictly transactional with money,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more of a true vending machine. The next big

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<v Speaker 1>step in vending machines did not happen until London eighteen eighties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, we're going to talk about a very ancient

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<v Speaker 1>invention intended to make the world a more pleasant smelling place.

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<v Speaker 1>But first we will pause for a sponsor break. For

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people today, it is very normal to

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<v Speaker 1>have a small tin or other container of breath mints

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<v Speaker 1>in their bag or pocket. But breath mints are very

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<v Speaker 1>far from new. The herbs in the mint family, which

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<v Speaker 1>is lemiakie, are as anyone who's ever grown one, very

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<v Speaker 1>hardy perennials. It is in fact harder to control them

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<v Speaker 1>than to get them started outside. They will often appear

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<v Speaker 1>to die back completely in cold temperatures and then pop

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<v Speaker 1>up a new in warm weather, and they bread lake crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of their very assertive nature as a plant that

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<v Speaker 1>spreads easily, and because it grows almost anywhere the origin

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<v Speaker 1>of mint, the plant seems to be completely unclear. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look it up, you will find texts that say

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<v Speaker 1>that it originated in any number of areas, including Asia,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mediterranean, Europe, and Africa. Mint has been used in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cultures as part of food traditions and

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<v Speaker 1>for its fresh, bright aroma. Blindey the Elder, who lived

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<v Speaker 1>in the first century, had a lot to say about

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<v Speaker 1>mint in his writings the Natural History. This isn't precisely

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about today in terms of invention, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to read a number of quotes from

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<v Speaker 1>that writing to illustrate just how commonly mint was used

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<v Speaker 1>and for a wide range of purposes. Pliny knew how

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<v Speaker 1>easy it was to grow mint, noting quote wild mint,

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<v Speaker 1>cat mint, ondieve, and penny royal will grow even without cultivation.

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<v Speaker 1>That isn't the only mint of its heartiness in the

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<v Speaker 1>Natural History. Pliny also writes quote, the mint that is

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<v Speaker 1>used in the dishes at rustic entertainments pervades the tables

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<v Speaker 1>far and wide with its agreeable odor. When once planted,

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<v Speaker 1>it lasts a considerable length of time. It bears too,

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<v Speaker 1>a strong resemblance to pennyroyal, a property of which is,

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<v Speaker 1>as mentioned by us, more than once to flour when

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<v Speaker 1>kept in our larders. So this also suggests that even

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<v Speaker 1>when you're not taking care of mint is a cultivated plant,

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<v Speaker 1>it can and will still grow on its o Pliny

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<v Speaker 1>writes of mint being used as an antidote for poison. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>leaves of wild mint are kept dried and reduced to

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<v Speaker 1>a fine powder as a remedy for poisons of every description.

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<v Speaker 1>Spread on the ground or burnt, this plant has the

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<v Speaker 1>effect of driving away scorpions. He also comments on its

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<v Speaker 1>flavorful nature and claims that it has a benefit to milk,

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<v Speaker 1>writing quote, the very smell of mint ree that meets

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<v Speaker 1>the spirits and its flavor gives a remarkable zest to food.

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<v Speaker 1>Hence it is that it is so generally an ingredient

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<v Speaker 1>in our sauces. It has the effect of preventing milk

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<v Speaker 1>from turning sour or curdling and thickening. Hence it is

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<v Speaker 1>that it is so generally put into milk use for drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent any danger of persons being choked by it

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<v Speaker 1>in a curdled state. So much yuck about this, heads up,

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot keep milk from going bad by adding mint

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<v Speaker 1>to it. At best, it might for a little while

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<v Speaker 1>mask the sourness of milk that is in his very

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<v Speaker 1>early as stages of going bad. But also choking on

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<v Speaker 1>milk that's super curdled just seems like you weren't paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Yuck across the board. If you are about to give

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<v Speaker 1>a big speech, Pliny suggest drinking mint tea quote the

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<v Speaker 1>juice of mint is good for the voice when a

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<v Speaker 1>person is about to engage in a contest of eloquence,

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<v Speaker 1>but only when taken just before. Pliny included a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of treatments that could be made with mint in his writing.

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<v Speaker 1>There are twenty remedies that can be made with wild mint,

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<v Speaker 1>and forty one from cultivated mint. And then outside of those,

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<v Speaker 1>he noted how pleasant it could be simply to eat it. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>If the air is inhaled by a person when eating peppermint,

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<v Speaker 1>he will be sensible of a cold feeling in the mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the York peppermint patty spiel, just with the mint

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<v Speaker 1>at its base. But Pliny's writing about mint was drawing

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<v Speaker 1>on cultural knowledge of it that had been circulating for

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of years already, and the use that we're focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on is as a cure for bad breath, although I

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<v Speaker 1>will say mint is not called out specifically in what

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to talk about, but there is this term

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<v Speaker 1>that's like general herbs available, and we know at the

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<v Speaker 1>time that mint was growing very readily in this area,

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<v Speaker 1>so presumably it was one of the herbs included. Even today,

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many causes for breath odor that it

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<v Speaker 1>can actually be hard to identify what the cause is

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<v Speaker 1>in a given person. Obviously, good oral hygiene can help

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<v Speaker 1>prevent the growth of bacteria that's often associated with foul breath,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are a lot of other causes of bad breath.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have dry mouth, you're more prone to it,

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<v Speaker 1>or if your diet includes certain foods, you might have

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<v Speaker 1>bad breath, even if you're great at brushing and flossing.

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<v Speaker 1>Various health conditions can also lead to breath that smells

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<v Speaker 1>less than fresh, and this has been a problem since

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<v Speaker 1>humans existed. But we are jumping all the way back

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<v Speaker 1>to ancient Egypt and one of their solutions for yuckie breath.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked a bit about dentistry and ancient Egypt, and

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<v Speaker 1>our two part episode on the history of dentistry. In

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<v Speaker 1>May of twenty twenty two, in part one of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we discussed how the Ebers Papyrus included information on packing teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>basically doing fillings, regrowing gum tissue, and even putting rudimentary

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<v Speaker 1>bridgework into the mouths of patience. It wasn't a time

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<v Speaker 1>where there was no denise care, but that care was

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<v Speaker 1>not as advanced as the care you would get today.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that even people who had the means to

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<v Speaker 1>access dental care were almost certainly going to develop some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of problem which could result in bad breath. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned just a moment ago, there are plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of other things that can cause breath issues, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Ebers Papyrus there was a treatment for that, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is breath mins, invented by the ancient Egyptians. The actual entry,

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<v Speaker 1>which to be clear we obviously only have from a translation,

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<v Speaker 1>initially begins as an air freshener for the home, and

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<v Speaker 1>that reads as follows quote substances to use in order

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<v Speaker 1>to make pleasant the smell of the house or of

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<v Speaker 1>the clothes dried mirr elderberries, incense, cyprus resin of aloes,

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<v Speaker 1>sebit resin kalmus from the land tah in Asia in

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<v Speaker 1>a coon grain mastics directs, crush a grind, make into

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<v Speaker 1>one and put on the fire another for the woman

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<v Speaker 1>to make they're out these ingredients. According to the other instructions,

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<v Speaker 1>put in honey, cook, mix, form into little balls. They

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<v Speaker 1>shall fumigate with them. It is also worthwhile to make

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<v Speaker 1>mouthpills out of them to make the smell of the

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<v Speaker 1>mouth agreeable. So basically, combine various good smelling things that

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<v Speaker 1>you might have on hand, cook them in honey, and

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<v Speaker 1>form that into tablets. These probably we're not super tasty,

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<v Speaker 1>and also they don't really contain any mint, at least

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<v Speaker 1>according to this list. But the mention of calamus is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It is referring to calamus, which comes up in other

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<v Speaker 1>papyri from ancient Egypt. Commonly it's known as sweet flag.

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<v Speaker 1>It is toxic and has psychoactive chemical components, So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it just made people think their breath smell better. Definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a far cry from the many minty options for breath

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<v Speaker 1>that there are today. So by the time that that

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<v Speaker 1>Pliny was writing several hundred years later, they had figured

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<v Speaker 1>out the mint could be involved in this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>To keep your breath delightful. The next invention we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about involves various sparkly things, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to that right after we hear from the

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<v Speaker 1>sponsors that keep the show going. On September twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty one, in Hamilton, Ohio, which is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati metro area, Bernard H. Weiste and Anna M.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Camp Weiste had a son named Louis Bernard WEISTI,

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<v Speaker 1>who would grow up to patent one of my favorite things.

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<v Speaker 1>There is not a whole lot of information about mister Weiste,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did at some point mary a woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Florence Bliss Stemball and start a family. Lewis and Florence

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<v Speaker 1>had two daughters, Helen born in nineteen thirteen and Bonnie,

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<v Speaker 1>born in nineteen seventeen. But even when we was still

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, there was a mention of a mirror ball

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<v Speaker 1>in a trade paper put out by a Charleston, Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 1>Electricians union in eighteen ninety seven. So that's right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about what would later become known as

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<v Speaker 1>the disco ball. Holly and I each kind of went

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<v Speaker 1>on a little expedition trying to find this periodical. Both

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<v Speaker 1>mental Floss and Vice say that this periodical carried the

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<v Speaker 1>write up about the union's annual party where this mirrored

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<v Speaker 1>ball apparently scattered sparkling light all around the room. We

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<v Speaker 1>did find a union paper that wrote up this event,

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<v Speaker 1>but had no mention of a mirror ball in it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's possible there was just a different version that

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<v Speaker 1>came directly from the union rather than like Union country

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<v Speaker 1>wide paper, which is the one that we had found, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we were looking at the bigger one that may have

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<v Speaker 1>aggregated other articles and may have edited right. In addition

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<v Speaker 1>to this lack of mention of the mirror ball and

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<v Speaker 1>the one version of this Holly and I found, there

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<v Speaker 1>are no photos of whatever this looked like. It is

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<v Speaker 1>often noted as the first time that a mirrored ball

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<v Speaker 1>was mentioned in the historical record. If it did look

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<v Speaker 1>something like today's disco ball. There's no attribution regarding who

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<v Speaker 1>came up with this decoration, which was at the Christmas party. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we also don't know how the one that we know

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<v Speaker 1>got invented came to be. We have no information about

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<v Speaker 1>the inspiration behind it. Where we Stee's brain went. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'd like to do is glue a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of mirrors on something and throw light on it. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we jump forward in Lewis Wees's life, there is

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of newspaper coverage about his patented invention, which he

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<v Speaker 1>called the myriad reflector. He filed a patent for the device,

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<v Speaker 1>his Myriad Reflector, on February twelfth, nineteen sixteen, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was granted that patent almost a year later, on February

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<v Speaker 1>sixth of nineteen seventeen. The technical portion of this patent

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the copy is straightforward, as it

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<v Speaker 1>would need to be. It's described as quote one, a

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<v Speaker 1>myriad reflector comprising mirrors mounted to form a polyhedron, bounded

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<v Speaker 1>by a convex system of plane faces, in combination with

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<v Speaker 1>means for suspending the device so that it may be

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<v Speaker 1>swung and rotated simultaneously to produce myriad reflections when light

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<v Speaker 1>rays from an extraneous source are thrown thereon. He also

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<v Speaker 1>described it a second time in an almost identical way,

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<v Speaker 1>but specifying that the mirrors could be separated slightly by

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<v Speaker 1>a non reflective sir. This was a reference to the

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<v Speaker 1>patent being about the mirrors not necessarily on a spherical shape,

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<v Speaker 1>but on any shape quote to suit the particular requirements,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty astute way of cutting off copycats

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<v Speaker 1>for making and these sort of hanging mirrored reflectors in

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<v Speaker 1>shapes that were not spheares trying to patent those two.

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<v Speaker 1>But while that wording is legally smart, there is some

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<v Speaker 1>rather more florid language in the general description that I

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<v Speaker 1>found rather charming. We see wrote quote the object of

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<v Speaker 1>my invention is to produce a myriad reflector comprising a

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<v Speaker 1>plurality of reflecting surfaces, the same to be arranged in

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<v Speaker 1>such a manner that the several reflections shall be projected

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<v Speaker 1>at varying angles, the device itself being arranged so that

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<v Speaker 1>it may be rotated or otherwise moved, so that the

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<v Speaker 1>reflections may produce a scintillating and spectacular effect. It is

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<v Speaker 1>scintillating and spectacular. Oh, he knew the key to my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a magpie of my soul. The exact timing is

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<v Speaker 1>not clear, but around the time Westy got his patent,

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<v Speaker 1>or shortly thereafter, Westy's friend Benny Friedman, who owned a

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<v Speaker 1>tailor's shop, asked Lewis, who went by lou if he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to use some space in the shop to set

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<v Speaker 1>up his own venture, and he did. He founded the

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<v Speaker 1>LB West Decorating Company out of that space, and soon

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<v Speaker 1>he was getting large contracts to set up parties and

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<v Speaker 1>municipal celebrations, and of course to sell his Myriad reflector

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<v Speaker 1>for those events. And to be really clear, the Myriad

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<v Speaker 1>reflector was a big deal. It was touted constantly in

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<v Speaker 1>newspapers by ballrooms and entertainment venues that had acquired one

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<v Speaker 1>as a draw. Reading through newspapers, it seems as though

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of venues saw it as this way they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to reinvigorate their business. Even before Weisty's patent

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<v Speaker 1>was granted, there are mentions of the Myriad reflector in

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<v Speaker 1>local papers indicating that weiste was already producing them. In

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<v Speaker 1>January nineteen seventeen, the Rotary Charity Ball of Piqua, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a town about eighty miles north of Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>had a write up in the Piqua Daily Call that read,

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<v Speaker 1>in part quote, during the Grand March, the hall was

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<v Speaker 1>darkened and from a Myriad reflector, sparks of every color

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<v Speaker 1>were flying over the ceiling, making a most dazzling and

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful scene. This was kept up at intervals during the

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<v Speaker 1>Grand March. This article notes that everything was donated for

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<v Speaker 1>the ball except the music, so presumably Weesti made that

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<v Speaker 1>Myriad reflector as a donation or loaned it to the event.

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<v Speaker 1>A June thirteenth, nineteen twenty one ad in the Salt

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Telegram read Dance to the Flash of the Myriad Reflector,

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<v Speaker 1>and it featured this drawing of five dancing couples beneath

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<v Speaker 1>a mirrored ball that is scattering light around the room.

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<v Speaker 1>That drawing is not especially detailed, but it is immediately

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<v Speaker 1>apparent what it depicts. The accompanying copy reads quote the

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<v Speaker 1>Myriad Reflector, one of the most beautiful electric lighting devices

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen here is now an exclusive feature at the

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<v Speaker 1>Salt Air You will find it flashing on the big

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<v Speaker 1>dance floor every Tuesday night. Come tomorrow night and see it.

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<v Speaker 1>There is also an addendum bit of copy in this

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<v Speaker 1>ad that has nothing to do with the mirror ball,

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<v Speaker 1>but which is also really charming to me because it says,

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<v Speaker 1>come early enough for a dip in the lake, and

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<v Speaker 1>in all caps, bathing is superb. Bathing is superb? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you just telling people to be clean or do you

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<v Speaker 1>really want them to splash about and enjoy your lakeside venue?

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<v Speaker 1>That autumn, the Great Falls Leader of Great Falls, Montana

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<v Speaker 1>drummed up excitement for its annual fall opening odeon Ball

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<v Speaker 1>by sharing with readers that a Myriad Reflector had been

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<v Speaker 1>procured for the event, and it also explains what it is. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>The Myriad Reflector is something new in the amusement world

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<v Speaker 1>and had heretofore been used only in such places the

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<v Speaker 1>Marigold Gardens of Chicago, Hotel Astor in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>Cave Hall of Saint Louis Schubert's Winter Garden of New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and like places. The Myriad Reflector is a novelty that

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<v Speaker 1>transforms a hall into a brilliant fairyland of flashing, changing

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<v Speaker 1>living colors, a marvel of kaleidoscope charm. The result is

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of small reflections, dancing, changing, chasing after one another,

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<v Speaker 1>into every nook and corner. What's interesting here, too, is

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<v Speaker 1>that after giving this sort of romantic descriptor, the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Falls Leader explains exactly how this effect is created. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>The device is an immense globe twenty seven inches in diameter,

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<v Speaker 1>completely covered with more than one thousand special made mirrors.

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<v Speaker 1>When spotlights are thrown on the rotating ball, the reflections

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<v Speaker 1>of the mirrors are multiplied into a dazzling, dancing, indescribable

0:27:56.480 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>lighting effect that is simply immense. It's funny that the

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>write up says it's indescribable right after it went to

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>great lengths to describe it. It made me think of

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Samuel Taylor, Coleridge and Kubla Khan and like writing this

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>whole poem and then being like and then I was

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>woken up, and I could never describe what I experienced.

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like, maybe you just did you just did? I

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>read it. Other newspapers had similar features that talked about

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Wisti's mirrored marvel. The timing of the patent really could

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>not have been better, as the Roaring twenties offered exactly

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the right cultural atmosphere to embrace all of that sparkle,

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and many of these write ups mentioned that it had

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a small motor that turned it to keep the reflected

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>lights moving and dancing. That rotator motor wasn't part of

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the original patent, and Weiste didn't apply for a patent

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>on the motor until several years after the examples that

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>we've been quoting in nineteen twenty four. That patent wasn't

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>actually granted until March thirteenth, nineteen twenty eight, at which

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>point he had been including the motor on his setup

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>for the better part of a decade. Lewis Weisty died

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>on April tenth, nineteen thirty three, at his home on

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Wayside Avenue in the Mount Washington neighborhood of Cincinnati, and

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the years after his death, his wife, Florence ran the

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>family business with the help of their daughter Helen. The

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>business struggled but made it through the Great Depression, and

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>was even hired to decorate Crossley Field for the All

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Star Game in nineteen thirty eight. But after Helen got

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>married and started a family, Florence couldn't keep things going

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>by herself, and the business shuddered. In nineteen forty five. Yeah,

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>there's an interesting write up about it's closing that kind

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>of has that you know, social norm line about well,

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Helen had a baby, so she's just domestic now she

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>can't work. It's like, oh, after the wee C Company closed.

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>The main producer of reflective mirrored balls was Omega National Products,

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>which o it out of Louisville, Kentucky. It was making

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>an estimated ninety percent of them when the disco craze

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>hit and made them super popular. Omega still exists today,

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>although a lot of other manufacturers have entered the market

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>since the nineteen forties. Yeah, today, if you go to

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a craft store, you can buy mirrored pumpkins, mirrored kitty cats,

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>mirrored anything you can think of, in a variety of colors.

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know. I don't own any of those. I

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>own all of those. I have a disco cat. You

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>can have people make giant discoed skeletons. I mean, one

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>woman did her own as a craft project and it's beautiful,

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>one of those giant yard skeletons. M you can't put

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>enough mirror stuff on things for me. I love it.

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with it. I'm also obsessed with listener mail.

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Here's one, okay from our listener, Jane, who writes, Hi,

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>hollyod Tracy. I've been a longtime listener. I honestly don't

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>remember when I started listening. I know it was sometime

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>in undergrad, maybe even my senior year of high school.

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm nearly thirty now, and I know in the grand

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>scheme of things, it's not old, but my brain is fuzzy.

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm remembering things I did yesterday, and I've always wanted

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>a reason to send a note about something. Listen. I

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like after we all lived in our homes, mostly

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>through the early part of COVID, memories got real weird

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>for everybody that's it doesn't matter your age. I just

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>think like time became a flat circle. Jane continues, there

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>have been so many somethings. As I am listening through

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the backlog of episodes, I think I'm finally into twenty

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty six. I started a re listen like three years ago,

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>from the very beginning of the podcast, and it's taken

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>me forever to get back to present day. There have

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>been so many subjects, especially the twenty twenty five episode

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>about the Library of Congress. She shares her connection to it,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to read that part because I

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want it to be too identifying it for personal information.

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>And the most recent Cranberry episode. I had to pull

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>over on my way home because the Cranberry episode nearly

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>made me pee my pants. And I will tell you

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>why this is, Like if you put this line in

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>an email I want to keep reading. My beloved grandmother,

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>who still lives in the in law apartment of my parents' house,

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>has never been able to cook. I think she's one

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of the reasons I had such a hard time trying

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>new foods as a kid, because as her favorite grandchild

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>at that time. A whole podcast on its own of

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>how my grandmother determines who is her favorite grandchild and

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>why at any given moment, if I said I wanted

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>to try something, she'd make it. The problem with this

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>is she would somehow change the texture of foods that

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>are really hard to mess up. I remember she made

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>steak one time and called it rare. It was as

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>hard as a hockey puck and gray all the way through,

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>but she tried. She also somehow managed to roast a

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.959
<v Speaker 1>bell pepper into rubber. I don't know how she managed that,

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>but it was legitimately inedible. But now I have a

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>night shade sensitivity and I can't have them anyways. But

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>my favorite memories of my grandmother and her inability to

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>cook always come at Thanksgiving. She has for my entire

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>almost thirty years, insisted on cooking something for Thanksgiving. And

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>somehow my mother has managed to get it down to

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>two things, homemade cranberry relish and her homemade saltine stuffing

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>or dressing. I'm not really sure the difference. My family

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>calls it both. My family calls it both to most people,

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.719
<v Speaker 1>stuffing as if it's cooked in the bird, dressing if

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it's in a tray or a dish that you put

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>in the oven. She would process them both through a

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>food mill that I am fairly certain has survived since

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen eighties. It's my goal to find it one

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>day and confirm this. The problem is now her memory

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>is starting to go and she can't remember where she

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>left it last. I've never had the cranberry relish, but

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>my sister loves it more than the canned jelly, which

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I also dislike but wish I didn't listen. It's grating cocktails.

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>It's made with fresh squeezed orange juice, but bottled is

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>fine too, just not the concentrate from the freezer section.

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>We did that one year and it was vile to smell.

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone ate it. And cranberry's frozen that

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>have been passed through the food mill, and then you

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>mix the juice and let it sit at least overnight,

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and it becomes a deep red, almost purple slop. The

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>smell's wonderful. If I could make it a candle, I would.

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I won't go into detail about her stuffing because she

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>has not been allowed to make it in years, and

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>outside of saltines and celery, I couldn't tell you what

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>was in it. She mentions the raisins might be in it,

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>which makes me make a face. But you know, everybody's

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>got their own taste. But I do know that her

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>stuffing is the reason I refused tried again until I

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.919
<v Speaker 1>was twenty five. I love this idea. There's some more

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>in this email, but I'm not going to read the

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. But I was fascinated because I'm like, you don't.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't how to do anything with the cranberries To

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>make cranberry sauce. You've literally just put them on the

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>stove the little water and they get smooshy, goushy on

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>their own, fall apart and become delicious. We all know

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that I love cranberries. I find this fascinating. The idea

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>of like soaking them overnight is interesting and for people

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>that maybe don't have a heath horse, or like anything's

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>going wrong in their kitchen. That might be an option.

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I might test this just to see how it works. Anyway,

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated. Fascinated, I tell you, because I imagine the

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>acidity of the orange juice would break down the cranberries

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.399
<v Speaker 1>enough that it would work just fine if they sat

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>long enough. Yeah. I have made a homemade cranberry sauce

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>type recipe before that has included a little orange juice.

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 1>But like I often do, that was like what was

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in the recipe. I didn't really think through the chemistry. Yeah,

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>they often do. I I tend to leave the the

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>we're off on a slight tangent, but come with me.

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I tend to leave the citrus part out because I

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>really just like the cranberry flavor. And I throw a

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>little vanilla in so it tastes almost even though it's

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no dairy in it. It has like an almost

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>custardy taste because of the smoothness that it develops. Listen,

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm into it. However, here's the most important part of

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>this email. Pet tax three beautiful beautiful kitties versus Princess

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Jane says She has many names, most unsuitable for broadcasts,

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>but my partner and I call her that most and

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>it fits the bill. She's sixteen, probably partner Reegian forest Cat,

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and I've had her since she was since I was twelve.

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>A great birthday surprise to come home and find her.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>She's so beautiful and so pretty and listen, I love

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 1>a mature lady kitty very much. I love mature kitties

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>in general. Next is my baby boy Gizmo. He's five.

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>He loves to be next to people, but hates when

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you touch him first. His favorite way to be pet

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>is body slamming himself into your shins. And lastly, my

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>gooby girl Gadget, who is four. She is tiny and

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 1>wee and would wear my skin just to snuggle closer.

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>My favorite part about her is she doesn't know how

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to yewl, but she does know how to squeak. These

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>babies are so sweet. Yeah, oh, I love a little

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.720
<v Speaker 1>cat face. One of them is a very funny picture

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of her tiny kitty right up close to their nanny

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>cam that they put in there. And then Jane signs

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>off with thank you so much for all you do,

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and I can't wait to catch them on the podcast. Also,

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know y'all were on Netflix. Yep, we sure are.

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to sit and watch it, you

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>can if you don't want to listen and only have audio.

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, thank you Jane, Thank you for sharing your

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>kitty cats, sharing your family's Cranberry story. Listen. Not everybody

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>has good cooks in their family. I was lucky to

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 1>have many good cooks in my family. Not everybody does.

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>There were oftentimes when I would go to other kids'

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>houses and be like, what is happening at your home?

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 1>This is not delicious. If you would like to write

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>to us share a family recipe. Do you remember that

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 1>turkey meatloaf recipe we had years ago? I have it still.

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I've made it several times. That was really good. I

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>don't remember who sent it to us off hand, but

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I haven't shoved into a cookbook notebook somewhere upstairs. If

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to share a family recipe, a picture of

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>your kiddie CAATs, a picture of anything else that you

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>delight in, a picture of a disco ball, however you

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>might use it in your home. That sounds great to me.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.720
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0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:25.880
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0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:27.759
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0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:31.680
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