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Speaker 2: Fit This Wednesday, April second, and the Yankees were taking

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Speaker 2: on the Diamondbacks in the middle game of a three

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Speaker 2: game set. We got Terrence Cam on the show tonight,

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Speaker 2: we'll go over the game and we'll do a little

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Speaker 2: bit of State of the Yankees early returns. Five games in.

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Speaker 2: This is pinstripe territory.

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Speaker 1: Wanted to pull all right, let's go, let's get it going.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're doing it a little bit different tonight because

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Speaker 2: we got Terrence Cam on the show. I was on

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Speaker 2: the watch party with Cameron Maman and Scott Braun watching

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Speaker 2: this one, and I'll tell you what, that was a

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Speaker 2: tough performance by the Yankees up until the ninth inning

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Speaker 2: of their TK.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of brutal to watch. Rocky first

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Speaker 1: couple innings for Rodan there and Zach Galen absolutely mowing

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Speaker 1: the Yankees down. He's a great pitcher, Derek. I think

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Speaker 1: he's probably easily top ten in the game right now.

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Speaker 1: Diamondbacks just have a great staff all around, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: but the knuckle curve was just filthy. He's painting the black.

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Speaker 1: He's not even like a guy with really overpowering stuff,

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Speaker 1: but he's about like ninety five ninety six, which is

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Speaker 1: just hard enough if you know how to locate to

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Speaker 1: be really effective. I think he struck out Judge three

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Speaker 1: times tonight, So really not what we've been seeing, I

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Speaker 1: guess the first three games of the year. But Derek,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna kind of chalk it up cold

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Speaker 1: night in the Bronx. It's hard to kind of get

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Speaker 1: it going. I think it's supposed to be in the

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Speaker 1: seventies tomorrow night, funny enough, so hopefully they can kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for a home run hitting team, cold weather is tough.

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Speaker 2: It's tough to hit home runs in cold weather. Carlos

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Speaker 2: Rodon tonight, let's talk about him. He was excellent obviously

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Speaker 2: on opening Day. Today, I felt like he just didn't

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Speaker 2: have the command. I felt like his body language was bad.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned it on the watch party. When things start

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Speaker 2: to go not his way, Like there was that comebacker

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Speaker 2: in a bad, negative place. But to his credit, he

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Speaker 2: settled down there at the end. I had over five

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Speaker 2: and a half strikeouts for him as my nostra Derek Pick,

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Speaker 2: and I also had over a half of an extra

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Speaker 2: base hit for Jason Dominguez as my other no stra

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Speaker 2: Derek Pick. So oh for two for Nora Derek. So

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Speaker 2: tough night, tough night, Domingaz Man he had. He had

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Speaker 2: a brutal, brutal night after a really good night last

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Speaker 2: night where he probably would have won the belt if

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Speaker 2: the Yankees won. Man he has never seen a curve

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Speaker 2: ball like that in his life.

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Speaker 1: Again, I think it's a cold weather thing. It's like

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Speaker 1: those those Dominican guys are now used to the Northeast

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Speaker 1: baseball man like that. So he's a young kid. I

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Speaker 1: think he'll kind of get it together. He is weaker

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Speaker 1: think he keep it going. But I wonder if it'll like,

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Speaker 1: let's say, Derek, let's just live in a world right

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Speaker 1: now where it's like two three years from now, where

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Speaker 1: the Yankees would kind of pull him do the Oswaldo

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Speaker 1: You're just gonna have to be patient and you know,

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Speaker 1: and time, kind of how they treated Vulpi his rookie year.

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Speaker 2: So you're a Hollywood guy, and one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: movies is Apollo thirteen, and there's this scene where everything

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Speaker 2: That's good? So this is that portion of the game

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Speaker 2: of the pod of the podcast, What do we Got

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Speaker 2: on the Yankees? That's good tonight? Really Austin Wells two hits,

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Speaker 2: Volpi has as many home runs as Judge right now,

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Volpi. I didn't see this kind of

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Speaker 1: Are home runs. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. All four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tough night for the Yankees. I thought Cody Bellinger

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Speaker 2: Gallon had tonight. You're looking at one of the better

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Speaker 2: a night where he had his best stuff, his best curveball,

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Speaker 1: The Pablo Rayas thing is kind of kind of whatever thing.

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Speaker 1: So Carlos Rodin comes out right, and he's wearing like

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Speaker 1: And I've pitched in cold, cold games in New York myself,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, well, both pitchers have to pitch

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about what the Yankees have

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Speaker 2: looked like over the course of the first five games.

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Speaker 2: up some comments from the chat. We got Scottie Brown

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Speaker 2: because we've seen obviously the nine home run game, but

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think they're going to be relying on

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Speaker 1: one game they look like you know, murderers Row back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm liking what we're seeing so far from Jazz

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Speaker 2: Here's an interesting thing. Piazza goes deep. I think was

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Speaker 1: don't know you're gonna hear Boone go like, well that

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Speaker 1: No, I really, he's a journey what was he thirty

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Speaker 2: There's not much more that we can beat on this

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Speaker 2: But you're headed off to Paris and you're gonna film

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Speaker 1: First of all, back I fly back April tenth, and

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Speaker 2: Good luck, t K. I wouldn't want to get off

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Speaker 2: we'll see you next time. TK. Thanks once again, and

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