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Speaker 1: Pushkin. It's August nineteen fifty six, a cool summer night

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Speaker 1: in Paris. An American artist named Lee Krasner is drifting

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Speaker 1: off to sleep at a friend's house. When the phone rings.

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Speaker 2: Her host answered the phone. She could tell by the

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Speaker 2: stricken look on his face that something terrible had happened.

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Speaker 2: Lee knew exactly what had happened, and she shouted out Jackson's.

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Speaker 1: Dead Jackson as in the painter Jackson Pollock, Lee's husband.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the whole world stopped. Well, the whole

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Speaker 2: art world stopped.

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Speaker 1: You know him now, of course, you can probably close

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Speaker 1: your eyes and picture one of his paintings.

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Speaker 2: When you enter a Pollock painting, you're entering out space.

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Speaker 2: You're going through ropes and nuts and tangles of galaxies.

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Speaker 1: He might be the most mythologized figure in American art.

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Speaker 2: He was like the living god.

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Speaker 1: But how much of the story that we've been told

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Speaker 1: about him is just that a myth.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knew Palack. He was just a figure in the village,

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Speaker 2: a drunk you know, who'd get in bar fights, and

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Speaker 2: no one had really seen his work.

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Speaker 1: This is a story about love and betrayal, about addiction

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Speaker 1: and violence.

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Speaker 2: We the moment we regard in the car and you're

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Speaker 2: a mistake. Jackson just wildly storage speed and that's when

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Speaker 2: the Cross.

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Speaker 3: Were Sending Jackson to a Salavanian therapist was the kiss

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Speaker 3: of death as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 1: But mostly it's about a passion enormously talented artist, Lee Krasner.

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Speaker 2: I want my independence.

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Speaker 3: Deal with it.

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Speaker 2: I want to make my own statement. Damn well, deal

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 1: The woman who made the modern art world.

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Speaker 2: She had a animal. Magnetism and energy are kind of arrogance,

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Speaker 2: the commands that makes the waves happen.

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Speaker 1: My name is Katie Hessel. I'm an art historian and

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Speaker 1: the author of a book called The Story of Art

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Speaker 1: Without Men. I've spent the past decade uncovering the stories

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Speaker 1: of great women artists, but I've never come across an

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Speaker 1: artist more game changing than this.

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Speaker 3: One thirty six is the fabulous work of the nineteen

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Speaker 3: fifty eight Some Women won by Lee Krasner. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to sell it now fair warning, at six million, two

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 1: From Pushkin Industries and Samasdat Audio. Welcome to Death of

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Speaker 1: an Artist Season two Krasner and Paula.

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Speaker 3: He Brook its yours. Thank you at sixteen million, two fifty,

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Speaker 3: I'll doubload two six Thank you very much.

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