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Speaker 2: program today, Bucky, is that that Celtics Heat Series was

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Speaker 2: gonna suffer the same fate as the Western Conference Finals

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Speaker 2: between the Lakers and the Nuggets, that being a four

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Speaker 2: game sweep. If that had happened on Tuesday. Think about this,

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Speaker 2: we would be now on day five without an NBA

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Speaker 2: game with five more to go. I mean, it was

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Speaker 2: like a nine day layoff potentially between the end of

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Speaker 2: the conference championships and the start of the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 2: which will be Thursday. That number remains the same, but

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Speaker 2: we do have an the Eastern Conference Final still alive.

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Speaker 2: And let's keep in mind here, Bucky, in the history

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Speaker 2: of NBA playoffs, the teams that were down three to

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Speaker 2: zero are zero to one hundred and fifty However, this series,

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Speaker 2: the Celtics are now just the eleventh team to get

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Speaker 2: it to a sixth game. So only eleven times out

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Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifty one times as a team

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Speaker 2: actually got into a sixth game. Only three times has

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Speaker 2: a team down three to zero forced a game seven.

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Speaker 2: But that's where we're sitting right now, Bucky, And with

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Speaker 2: is this prevalent thought that if Miami doesn't win tonight

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Speaker 2: made in these Eastern Conference Finals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a lot of that conversation about history

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Speaker 3: being made and the Heat better win tonight because if

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Speaker 3: they come back to Game seven, no chance. But I

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Speaker 3: think if you have some perspective, just like the Heat

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Speaker 3: rilled off three in a row, if the Celtics went

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Speaker 3: off three in a row, where we're at, we're playing

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Speaker 3: one game for the season, and all those previous games

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Speaker 3: don't matter because then it's how you perform on that

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Speaker 3: given game seven day. And so I know there's been

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Speaker 3: a lot of conversation about the Boston Celtics, and the

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Speaker 3: Boston Celtics are the better team and they are the

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Speaker 3: more talented team for sure, and they found their way

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Speaker 3: and look out, and you heard Jalen Brown and Marcus

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Speaker 3: spot Smart say, hey, don't let us get one and

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Speaker 3: don't let us get two. Well, all that is fine

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Speaker 3: and good, but at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 3: pressure is the same on both teams. The Celtics know

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Speaker 3: if they lose, it's a rap, it's over. The Miami

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Speaker 3: Heat still has a little cushion. They still can take

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Speaker 3: solace in the fact that even if they don't get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to be said in the aftermath

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Speaker 2: course gave Vincent was out of that game, and that

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Speaker 2: was a huge loss for the Heat. In Game five,

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Speaker 2: they just never seen competitive like the Celtics could control

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Speaker 2: clearly the better team. But there is a reason why

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Speaker 2: teams down three to zero don't win. It's only happened

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Speaker 2: once ever in baseball. That was the two thousand and

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Speaker 2: It's happened four times in the NHL Quick story on

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Speaker 2: they won their first Stanley Cup. So twenty thirteen, they're

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Speaker 2: playing the San Jose Sharks in the opening round and

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Speaker 2: So suddenly they're like, we're going to go to you

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, They're yelling in my ear stretch stretch,

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Speaker 2: she goes, well, what I will they come back to

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, and I'm doing this on the air

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Speaker 2: because I'm just trying to stretch, and if they come

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Speaker 2: the twenty fourteen year, the year two years after they

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, actually, I don't call it I only

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Speaker 2: is the Nuggets have no chance against the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 2: Just like the Red Sox after they swept four in

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Speaker 2: the Celtic team that was humiliating in Game three, Bucky one.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever when Magic Johnson puts out a tweet saying,

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Speaker 2: in my forty four years associated with the NBA, I

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Speaker 2: never thought I would see a franchise like the Celtics,

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Speaker 2: winners of seventeen NBA championships.

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Speaker 1: Quit.

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Speaker 2: Quit. I mean, is there a worse four letter word

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Speaker 3: Now, I mean it's possible that they could do it,

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Speaker 3: pride and the biggest issue that we saw from the

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Speaker 3: So now they found that if they give effort and

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Speaker 3: the last six quarters, they've dominated the heat in that regard.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, and as we know, over time,

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Speaker 3: and so can the Celtics continue to be a try, hard,

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Speaker 3: as that sounds. Both games they have kind of played

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Speaker 2: We saw in that Game three Joe Mozilla, their young coach,

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Speaker 2: we got a problem, which brings up another point. Bucky,

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Speaker 2: I've been a Lakers fan my entire life, and I

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Speaker 2: when people were saying, hey, I mean, considering where you

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Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, I've been there. I mean, getting

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Speaker 2: The only thing that keeps me playing is winning championships.

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Speaker 2: And we'll get much more into his situation a little

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Speaker 2: bit later on in the show. But do you believe

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Speaker 2: But do you believe that today's athlete, and I'm talking

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a different time. And I think

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Speaker 3: it's a different time because the money's significantly more now

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Speaker 3: You have to back from your shoe company, from your

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, well I got others for you later on.

435
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Speaker 2: But John Cotish know the name? No, the name?

436
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Speaker 3: Yes?

437
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Speaker 2: Do you know the name?

438
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Speaker 3: Now?

439
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Speaker 1: You know?

440
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Speaker 2: Well, now I do. I've been educated by you. How

441
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 2: about this fifty years ago when he won that Wimbledon.

442
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 2: I was actually as a student, young, very young student, fifteen,

443
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: living in Paris for a month, Paris, France, and they

444
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: had like the Harold Tribune, which was like the English

445
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: paper that you get, you know, the news on I

446
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: remember that, and I'm like, Jan Cotish, there it is.

447
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: I wasn't a then, My parents had not met before.

448
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: People listening probably were not alive, yes, but that's okay.

449
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: I just throw that out there, John Ramos, were you

450
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: live then?

451
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Speaker 3: Were you alive?

452
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Speaker 2: What year was this nineteen seventy three, I was alive. Yeh,

453
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Speaker 2: here you go, very good. I won't ask you Brandon,

454
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Speaker 2: how about you Buck.

455
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Speaker 3: Seventy three? Two years old? Oh, two years old? He

456
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: was right there.

457
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Speaker 7: So by the way, Yanik the dad of joke him, Noah.

458
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 7: But yes, we do know that there is a regime

459
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 7: change that is about to be finalized here with the

460
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Speaker 7: Milwaukee Bucks. According to reports, Adrian Griffin, the now former

461
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 7: assistant coach for the Toronto Raptors, is going to be

462
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Speaker 7: the next head man in Milwaukee. Has never been a

463
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Speaker 7: head coach in the Association before. This will be his

464
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 7: first time sixteen seasons as an assistant in the association,

465
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Speaker 7: spanning over five teams, and had to in the vetting

466
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Speaker 7: process have an individual meeting with Giannis and Takumpo, apparently

467
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Speaker 7: getting high praise from Jannis because that helped propel Griffin

468
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Speaker 7: to beating out another finalist in Kadie Atkinson, who is

469
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Speaker 7: an assistant for the Warriors, for the job. Speaking of

470
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Speaker 7: the NBA game six tonight, Eastern Conference Finals, is going

471
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Speaker 7: to be underweight eight thirty Eastern Time in Miami, where

472
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Speaker 7: the for a third time, are going to try to

473
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Speaker 7: close out this series to win away from the NBA Finals,

474
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Speaker 7: which everybody's waiting to see who is going to face

475
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Speaker 7: off against the Denver Nuggets. But the Celts have won

476
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Speaker 7: the last two games. Miami leads the series as of

477
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Speaker 7: now three games to two. Major League Baseball, we saw

478
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Speaker 7: the Yankees win in a walkoff three to two against

479
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Speaker 7: the Padres. Also games in motion as we speak. The

480
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 7: Twins have doubled up the Blue Jays eight to four.

481
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Speaker 7: Bottom of the eighth there. I think Dodgers have a

482
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Speaker 7: solo home run from Max Monsey. That's the only offense

483
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Speaker 7: in this game. Early on in Tampa won nothing. Dodgers

484
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 7: over the Rays bottom of the second. Astros have put

485
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Speaker 7: two on the board, two nothing. They are in front

486
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Speaker 7: of the ten and forty three Athletics and lastly Steve

487
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Speaker 7: and Bucky. We are in progress of the third round

488
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 7: PGA Tour Charles Schwap Challenge and Emiliano Gurrio is in

489
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 7: a share of lead at ten Underwood Harris English. Both

490
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 7: are on the back nine. Both are shooting under part today.

491
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Speaker 7: The leader going into today was Harry Hall, Bucky and

492
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Speaker 7: Steve very relatable front side for him.

493
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Speaker 2: Back to back double Bogies. I've been there.

494
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Speaker 7: I'm sure Steve definitely has been there. Bucky, maybe not

495
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Speaker 7: because of how good of a golfer you are, But

496
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Speaker 7: I gotta say that we saw it. Just seems guys

497
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Speaker 7: like a very human experience that we witnessed from the leader,

498
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Speaker 7: just vulnerability. We don't see that from these guys very often,

499
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Speaker 7: and it was very relatable for once.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I love to see great athletes fail

501
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 2: because I am not an athlete, have never been an athlete,

502
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Speaker 2: and and I talk about sports my entire life, but no,

503
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Speaker 2: I don't. But if I'm rooting against somebody, oh.

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like to see that failure.

505
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Speaker 2: Does that bother you, Bucky? As I mean, do you ever?

506
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Speaker 2: Do you ever? I mean as an athlete yourself, do

507
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: you ever root against an athlete or are you, like

508
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: most athletes said, really go gaga when you see someone

509
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: that just has that next level of athleticism.

510
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Speaker 3: I don't hourly root against people. I may be okay

511
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 3: with a team not making it or advancing like to

512
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: do Blue Devils, I may be okay. I don't outwardly

513
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: say hey, but if they lose, I'm like, okay, happens, Yeah, However,

514
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: I look, I think your mindset has to be as

515
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: an athlete and competitor, you have to play anybody, anytime,

516
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Speaker 3: any plays like whoever.

517
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Speaker 2: It is beef and you're the Thomas Mooster of Yeah.

518
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Speaker 7: By the way, when Jonas brought up that tennis reference,

519
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 7: sometimes he gets tennis and tetris confused. That's as much

520
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 7: as he knows about tennis.

521
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Speaker 2: Tell us the sport you're not a fan of. You know, pickleball.

522
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Speaker 7: As a player, I get it, But televising it, I'm

523
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 7: not so sure about as of right now. And there

524
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 7: is a big demand. There are three different professional leagues

525
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Speaker 7: out there for pickleball. Every network wants their hands on

526
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Speaker 7: what's happening in that space. But I just can't get

527
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 7: over the fact that it's a with a ball. There's

528
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Speaker 7: a governor. If you will want to sit the difference.

529
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Speaker 7: I mean, Okay, we got tennis, you got paddleball. You

530
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Speaker 7: have badminton. I covered badminton. I actually covered it when

531
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Speaker 7: I was in college. I used to call them the swatters.

532
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: I usually have a thank you letter from UCLA had

533
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: some good badminton teams, believe it or not, and they

534
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: just keep creating these games.

535
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Speaker 3: All the time. I'm sorry, I'm not into that.

536
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Speaker 7: What makes this sport pickleball so appealing is that you

537
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 7: pretend and gets people to think that they're working out.

538
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 7: The court is smaller, so it's kind of the lazier

539
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Speaker 7: the sport, the more people flock to it. And I

540
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 7: think we're seeing that with pickleball because the court is

541
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Speaker 7: That's the thing. If you actually work up a sweat

542
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 7: playing pickle ball, then you really are out of shape. Yes, Like,

543
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 7: if you are sweating playing pickleball, then guess what you

544
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 7: are out of shape? Think about this guy, Like, the

545
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 7: last couple of years with COVID, golf has exploded. Yes,

546
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Speaker 7: and golf is a sport where you can see a

547
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Speaker 7: fifty year old beat a twenty year old. And where

548
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Speaker 7: else does that happen other than perhaps pickleball. The lazier

549
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Speaker 7: of the sport the last couple of years, the more

550
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Speaker 7: fans are flocking to it. Those are the kind of

551
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Speaker 7: sports that I guess you want to be a part

552
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 7: of as their trajectory goes higher and higher.

553
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the amount of sweat on me when I play

554
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: golf is adjacent to how much alcohol I drank that day.

555
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: I mean, if I start my round with a double

556
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: shot Bloody Mary at an early tea time, I'm probably

557
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: gonna sweat at some point, especially after I drink another

558
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: half dozen beers along the way. So thank you for

559
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: much befam. We'll talk to you a little bit later on.

560
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: We are talking about DeAndre Hopkins and the release from

561
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Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. Now the question is where is he

562
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: going to end up? Bucky odds are the Bills are

563
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: favored right now, and it's interesting where the odds are.

564
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Speaker 2: But he got the Bills, won Cheese, two Ravens, three Jets.

565
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Speaker 2: For all AFC teams, look, the addition of DeAndre Hopkins,

566
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Speaker 2: even if he wasn't or isn't the guy he was,

567
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: is going to be a plus for teams that have

568
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks that can actually get him the ball, and obviously

569
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Speaker 2: all these teams do. So what is your best guest, Well,

570
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Speaker 2: before we say best guests amongst those four teams, the Bills,

571
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Ravens, and the Jets, assuming that he's healthy,

572
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Speaker 2: which team would he have the greatest impact on?

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Speaker 3: Uh, I would say probably the Buffalo Bill.

574
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Speaker 2: Okay, so you obviously have digs there. Digs impact on

575
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: that franchise was immeasurable. Suddenly, Josh Allen looked like a

576
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: completely different quarterback when he was starting the ball that digs.

577
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Speaker 2: The combination of digs and d Hop, what does that

578
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: do for the I mean the only place the Bills

579
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: can go from where they are now is to win

580
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. I mean that's it. I mean they're

581
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: already obviously an elite team. They have fallen short of

582
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: getting to the Super Bowl, and winning a Super Bowl?

583
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Speaker 2: Does that put him over the top.

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Speaker 3: Well, it gives them a chance to fortify their lineup

585
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: for the next couple of years. And So when you

586
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: think about what d Hop would be able to bring

587
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: to the offense as a stadium dependable, reliable pass catcher,

588
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Speaker 3: you have him. You think about having Stefan Diggs on

589
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: the outside, Dawson Knox, you drafted Dalton Kin Kate so

590
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: now and you're twelve personnel package, one back, two tight ends,

591
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: two wide receivers. You have a lot of weapons and

592
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: a lot of flexibility to do a bunch of different things.

593
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: Is really important that for d Hop, because he doesn't

594
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: create separate race, he needs a big, strong arm passer

595
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: that can fit the ball into the tight windows that

596
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: can put it in different spots. So DeAndre Hopkins can

597
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: go get it. He's not a Blazer anymore. He's not

598
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: going to create separation off his physicality and toughness, and

599
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: so now the coach has to do a little more

600
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: scheming to get him open it so you can have

601
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: the impact that we used to see him.

602
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Speaker 2: All right, I'm not going to compare him to a

603
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Randy Moss, because Randy Moss stands alone in terms of talent.

604
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: But we remember when Randy Moss left the Vikings, was

605
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: hidden away in Oakland with the Raiders for a couple

606
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: of years, traded for a couple of mid round picks

607
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: in New England, and rewrote the record booked with Tom

608
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: Brady throwing him the ball. So, if you were to

609
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Speaker 2: be asked by any of these teams, Bucky, breakdown, what

610
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Speaker 2: are we getting right now in a thirty Oh, DeAndre.

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Speaker 3: Hopkins, You're get a pass catcher, a quality, high, reliable,

612
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Speaker 3: dependable pass catcher. You're not getting someone who's going to

613
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: win with exotic or precise routes. You're getting really, I mean,

614
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: like a steady eddie playmaker, like someone who is on

615
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: the backside of his career. You've seen it the last

616
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Speaker 3: few years. Five hundred and seventy two seven hundred and

617
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: seventeen yards respectively. Not quite what you expect from a

618
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Speaker 3: number one receiver. But pri out of that, he had

619
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Speaker 3: four straight one thousand euro seasons, and so you have

620
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Speaker 3: to make sure that you meet him halfway, try and

621
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Speaker 3: figure out a way to kind of bridge the gap

622
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: in terms of his learning, knowledge, understanding, and putting them

623
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Speaker 3: in a situation where he can win the best balls

624
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Speaker 3: that he's been able to win.

625
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Speaker 2: Just for clarification, a team that signs him they have

626
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: to pay him the full twenty million.

627
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they don't have to pay him that.

628
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: He's entitled to get that. So he can file the

629
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: seven papers and the Cardinals will be on the hook

630
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Speaker 3: for that or whatever. But one time he gets an

631
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Speaker 3: opportunity to do this, So he's getting that money from somebody.

632
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Speaker 3: Just depends on who does he wanted to come from.

633
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Speaker 2: All right, Another name is emerged in the news out

634
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: of the NFL that we thought we had buried forever.

635
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: Find out who it is. This is Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, Bucky Brooks. This is Fox Sports Saturday, we're

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Speaker 2: coming alive from the ti iraq dot com studios. Well,

638
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: here's a name that I haven't seen in a while.

639
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: I didn't know that he was still out there speaking

640
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: of an NFL legend, Adrian Peterson, who is now thirty

641
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: eight years of age. By the way, the last non

642
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: quarterback to win the Most Valuable Player Award. I don't

643
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: know if there ever be another one. That was back

644
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve when he came off that devastating injury

645
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: and had that huge comeback. He's had a lot of

646
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: comebacks over the years. Did not play in the NFL

647
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Speaker 2: last year. I think he had a boxing match where

648
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: he got knocked out. Before we get into any chance

649
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: of this guy reuniting with the National Football League.

650
00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: How good was Adrian Peterson? Great player, fantastic player. I mean,

651
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: he is an all timer when it comes to the

652
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: running back position. The thing about Adrian Peterson that we

653
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: always remember is the fact that he bounced back from

654
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: an ACL injury, and some would say he was a

655
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: better player after the surgery than before. I hate it

656
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 3: for him that he decided one whatever, he left Minnesota

657
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: and then he bounced around. It's one of those things

658
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: where Man, you just have this visual, this vision of

659
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: how he was at Minnesota and all the other details

660
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: on his helmet and on his suitcase. Just kind of

661
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: take a little bit away from that.

662
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona, New Orleans, washing In, Detroit, Tennessee, Seattle. Those

663
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: are some of the teams he's played for and he

664
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: wants a little more. Yeah, I mentioned the other Saints.

665
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: Look at this. This is I guess the sad part

666
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: of a lot of it because the only reason that

667
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: I can think of for him, because some people are saying, well,

668
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: he's eighty two yards short of fifteen thousand, what does

669
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: that mean? It's not the record. I mean, if he

670
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 2: was eighty two yards short of the record, I mean

671
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: that's one thing. But I don't think anyone looks at

672
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand is a significant number where you're not talking

673
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer already, obviously everyone first ballot

674
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: hall of famer.

675
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: So he's a Hall of famer. It's a financial situation.

676
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: He won't be the all time leader. I mean even

677
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: if that, like it is the financial situation at this stage,

678
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 3: what we're talking about we're talking about minimum deals. So yeah,

679
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: we're talking about a million dollars. But we're not talking

680
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: about the ability to recoup whatever was was lost. If

681
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 3: he lost significant amount of money from the deals that

682
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: he sign at his hey day, Like, that's what we

683
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: don't know.

684
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: Can you possibly imagine anyone taking a serious look at

685
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: a thirty eight year old running back who's been out

686
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: of the league.

687
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 3: For two years. I think last week we talked about

688
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: Jim Brown and the cover of Sports Illustrating ye twenty seven. Yeah,

689
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: that's talking about a comeback with the Raiders. No, I

690
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: can't see that, but I couldn't see it five years

691
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: ago when he bounced around.

692
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 2: I mean when you mentioned five years ago in twenty

693
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: eighteen with Washington, he had over a thousand yards rushing average,

694
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: over four you to carry.

695
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of production most teams are looking for.

696
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: And washington't bring him out.

697
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: I mean, both those years with Washington he was productive.

698
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: His yards per carry four point two, four point three.

699
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: But it's twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. You know again, most

700
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: teams now have running back by committee. Anyway they do.

701
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 3: But the other thing with that, and it's hard for stars,

702
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: is just and Ezekiel Elliot may suffer from this in

703
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: yesteryear when these guys came into the league, the running

704
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: back was still the marque position was still a featured

705
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 3: back position, meaning you would get twenty to twenty five touches.

706
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: It has now become a shared position where you have

707
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: role players kind of rotating in and out as part

708
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: of a rotation. Adrian Peterson never saw himself other than

709
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: the all time great, right, and so he had a

710
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: tough time at the end of his tenure at Washington

711
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: when he wasn't the starter, and every other place that

712
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: he's gone since he can't beat the guy anymore. He's

713
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: looking father time has passed him by it like it wins,

714
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: and so he's not that guy anymore. So it's going

715
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: to be hard for him unless he's able to say

716
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a bit player any other thing. He

717
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: doesn't play special teams, So if you give him a

718
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: jersey on Sundays, you're talking about a one dimensional player,

719
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: a guy who only can play in small packages on

720
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: offense and gives you nothing outside of that one thing.

721
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Speaker 2: I remember the story when he got drafted by Minnesota.

722
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: Remember he had injuries his last two years at Oklahoma

723
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: after a historic freshman season, but they They told him

724
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: from day one, do you want to play? Mm hmm,

725
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: He goes, what do you want to Of course I

726
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: want to play. Then you have to block? Yeah, yeah,

727
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: in the NFL, you're not going to play at all

728
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: unless you can block.

729
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: You have to be able to pass protection. You have

730
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: to be to block. And also, Adrian Peterson is an

731
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: outstanding runner. He has never been a guy that was

732
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 3: a major contribute in the passing game.

733
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: Right A guy, A guy's not gonna catch a lot

734
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: of passes. So all right, So it just it's interesting

735
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: you mentioned because I would think of myself like Adrian

736
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 2: Peterson again, last running back to win the MVP Award,

737
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: Derek Henry's been on the radar a couple of times,

738
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: but once the Derrick Henry's the Jonathan Taylor's maybe some

739
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: of the last guys that we are seeing, you know,

740
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: getting carries. I'm not talking about an Eckler Taboo's catching

741
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: passes and running. I'm talking about twenty to twenty five

742
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: carries a game. Is this it? I mean, are we

743
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: finally to the point now where that is going to

744
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: be extinct? We're just not going to see that anymore

745
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: from a running.

746
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: Back no, I believe it's all cyclical. I believe at

747
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: some point you'll see it kind of turn. It may

748
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: not be in the next two or three years, but

749
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: at some point the position will go back to being

750
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: a major position. And it all depends on the level

751
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: of your quarterback. If your quarterback is good, then you're

752
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: less reliant on the running game and the running back.

753
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: But if your quarterbacks use more towards the middle and

754
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: he's more of an average quarterback a game manager, well

755
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: then you need to have the support of the running

756
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: game and those other things. And so it may never

757
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: be what it was with Walter Payton, but it still

758
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: have a significant role.

759
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Speaker 2: If someone raised as a USC fan, student body left

760
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 2: student body, right. I mean the year the Marcus Allen

761
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: won the Heisman, he had over four hundred carries in

762
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: eleven games.

763
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Speaker 3: I mean that's good old days right there, that's good stuffdays. Yeah,

764
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: they build different You can.

765
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Speaker 2: I mean over forty carries a game.

766
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Speaker 3: You can't give the ball with that many times to somebody?

767
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: Why not?

768
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: By the way, that guy played four years in college

769
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: and then sixteen years in the NFL. He held up

770
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: all right. On the other side, is Lebron James about

771
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: to retire. What's the story? We got it for you.

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Speaker 2: or Only fourteen other teams have ever gone down three

789
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Speaker 2: to zero in a series. Out of one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty teams that have been down three to oh, only

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Speaker 2: fourteen have gotten as far as a game six. Only

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Speaker 2: three have taken into a Game seven Heat would like

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Speaker 2: to end this series. I'm sure they do not want

794
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: to go back to Boston to win a Game seven,

795
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: So gonna be interesting matchup. We'll get an update on

796
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: all the players that should be available. We haven't got

797
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: a complete list, but obviously huge game for both these

798
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: teams coming up tonight. Meanwhile, on the other side, Buggy,

799
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: it ended in a sweep the Lakers. When you look

800
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: back at the four games of this Western Conference Finals,

801
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: every game pretty much played out the same way where

802
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: they were close games and in the end, the Nuggets,

803
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: the better team, made the shots necessary to come out

804
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: with the WS. I mean it just there were no blowouts,

805
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: there were no embarrassing losses for the Lakers. They were competitive,

806
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: but it was the manner in which they lost the

807
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: last game that raised a lot of eyebrows. So I

808
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: bring up my son, Garrett, who is this diehard Laker fan,

809
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: and he was highly critical of Lebron going into Game four,

810
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: saying he's as responsible as anyone else that the Lakers

811
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: find themselves in this three to zero hole. And he's

812
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: a Lebron fan normally, but he wasn't making any threes,

813
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: you know what I've said, And he wasn't dominating the

814
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: way a guy like Lebron James has in the pass

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00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: when the game was on the line. So Lebron comes

816
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: out in that Game four, he took thirteen shots in

817
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: the first half, and he had thirty one points. Thirty

818
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: one points on just thirteen shots and completely dominated. And

819
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers had a healthy fifteen point lead at the half.

820
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: By the end of the third quarter, they're down five

821
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 2: and they only scored sixteen points and he barely touched

822
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: the ball, and you're like, what's going on here? He

823
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: just had Lebron dominate the first half, and then not

824
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: only is he not productive scoring in the third quarter

825
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 2: when the lead is completely evaporated, he's not even getting

826
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: his hands on the ball at the end. Of course,

827
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: obviously a shot that you know, he could have been

828
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: a foul, could have been whatever. But Denver, who was

829
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: the better team. Then afterwards, Lebron was asked specific questions

830
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: about next season, and he was hedging. First he talked

831
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: about the fact why I don't really know he's going

832
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: to be on the roster, and then he took a

833
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: next level where he started talking about I really have

834
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: to look into my future of basketball and then away

835
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: from the podium, he even admitted that maybe he would

836
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 2: contemplate retirement. By the way, if he retires, he walks

837
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: away from one hundred million dollars in salary.

838
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: Retirement is not an option.

839
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: So one hundred million dollars is on the table with

840
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: a guaranteed money next year and a player option the

841
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: following year one hundred million dollars. So the question now

842
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: is why would he say that, Why would he even

843
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: bring up the idea of retirement. Is this for him

844
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: to say? Because he did make a clear Bucky that

845
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 2: winning championships is the only thing that keeps him playing

846
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: the game. That's his only motivation. And it's not about money,

847
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: it's not about accolades. I mean, you know, if you

848
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: don't already buy into the idea that he's the goat,

849
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: you never will. Even if he were to win another championship,

850
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: it's not going to change. People would say, yeah, Jordan

851
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: was six for six, you would be you know, five

852
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: for whatever. I'm one of those in his corner as

853
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: far as him being the goat, But that aside, So

854
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: what is it? Is it a message Bucky to the

855
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 2: Lakers organization that is impressive as this group was once

856
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: they made these deals, had the best record in the

857
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: West after the All Star break, and made a run

858
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: to the Western Conference Finals, it's still not good enough

859
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: for us to win a championship. What do you think

860
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 2: was intended? Because Lebron doesn't do anything by accident after

861
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: twenty years, what was his intention of saying what he

862
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: said in the aftermath of losing the Western Conference Finals.

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00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: There's a lot to unpack in your statements. One, your

864
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: son talking about Lebron and not being able to dominate

865
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: at the level Lebron in a weird way, Lebron and

866
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: our kindred spirit. So today, Steve, I was at my

867
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: yoga class, and the yoga class is sixty minutes, and

868
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: the way the yoga class goes is the first I

869
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: would say, first half of the class is all you're

870
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: standing up, you're doing all your hard stuff whatever, and

871
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: then there's a core period right in the middle. Once

872
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: you get the core, you know, okay, This would be

873
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 3: the equivalent of the beginning of the third quarter. We're downhill.

874
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: I just got to get through the abs and then

875
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: a couple different things in them out and somewhere in

876
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: there after the abs, I could feel myself wearing down

877
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: and fading fast. I'm wobbling, I'm woozy. I don't have

878
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: gas to the point where I may have to go

879
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: down in my knees in child's posts. So what Lebron

880
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: did is in that first half when he gave us

881
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: that vintage Lebron at halftime, the tank was on empty

882
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: and there was nothing else that they could put in

883
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 3: the tank to bring it back, which is why you

884
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: didn't see shots. You didn't see him really active because

885
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: he was he was fresh out.

886
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 2: Fresh out of him.

887
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: Means he didn't have anything left. And Lebron talking about retirement.

888
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: I think it's the first time that not only we

889
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: can see the older version of Lebron, but I think

890
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: he feels like an old man on the court. Not

891
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: that he hasn't been great, He's been great at his age.

892
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: He's been great at thirty eight, he's all time scoring,

893
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: all those other things. We have seen guys like Kobe whatever,

894
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: who weren't able to play at a high level like

895
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: after they reach a certain age. He's been able to

896
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: do that. I don't think he can continue to play

897
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: if he doesn't have the support to be able to

898
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 3: Like hey man, I can give you this once every

899
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: four or five games. I can't give you this for

900
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 3: eighty two games. We have to figure out how ad

901
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: or somebody else is going to carry this so I

902
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: can be available to play hard in the postseason. I

903
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: think a lot of the retirement talk is to make

904
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: the antenna's per cup in the front office like, oh, okay,

905
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: what does he want? What is he talking about? I

906
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: think that's the conversation.

907
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: Well, it's amazing when he now know for sure that

908
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 2: he wasn't one hundred percent physically, he had the injured

909
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: foot that may have to have surgery. We don't have

910
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: that decision yet.

911
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: Think about that surgery at thirty eight.

912
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: Well, and again, here's the thing about a guy like

913
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: Lebron James. So afterwards he was talking about the fact

914
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: that he still believes he's better than ninety ninety five

915
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: percent of the players. Well, up until recently, he was

916
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: better than one hundred percent of the players. Yeah, I mean,

917
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: there was nobody in the conversation. I mean you could

918
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: throw out of Steph Curry at Kevin Durant, great players,

919
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: none of them ever were Lebron when he was at

920
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: his peak, which was as recently as a couple of

921
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: years ago. So by his own a mission when he's saying, hey,

922
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: I'm still better than nineteen to ninety five percent. But

923
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: in his mind, when you've been the best player in

924
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: the game, can you play as one of the top

925
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: ten percent players in the league. Some guys can't make

926
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: that adjustment. You remember Alan Iverson, You know some teams were

927
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: still interested in Iverson as a as a guy that

928
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: could come off the bench and score. This guy averaged

929
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: forty one minutes per game his entire career. The idea

930
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: that he would come off the bench and play sixteen

931
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty minutes.

932
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: He couldn't do that. And so for Carmelo, same thing.

933
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm a starter, I'm a do We talked about Adrian Peterson.

934
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: Some guys can make it, others can't, and I just

935
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: can't say. This is what I've I've talked about With

936
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: a guy like Tiger Woods and Golf, I mean, he

937
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: could still show up, you know, the ceremonial like Arnold

938
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 2: Palmer did for thirty years at the Masters and waved

939
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: to the crowd and missed the cut. That's not Tiger Woods.

940
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: Nicholas wasn't that way Nicholas felt like, if I'm not competitive,

941
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm not a ceremonial guy. I played twin and so

942
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: that's what's where I think part of that is coming

943
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: from from Lebron James Now as far as putting a

944
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: team together that can compete. If this Nuggets team goes

945
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: on to win the NBA Championship, if they win the

946
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: NBA Championship, then there's your standard in the moment. Right,

947
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: they're the best team and you were competitive against that

948
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: team in all four games. They just made better plays.

949
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: Plus their core unit had been together for several years.

950
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about where they were in twenty

951
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: twenty when they lost the Western Conference Finals to the

952
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: Lakers and the bubble, and where they are three years later, Well,

953
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: a more mature team obviously. So if you were to

954
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: bring everybody back from this core of Lakers and bring

955
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: back the Reeves and the Hatamuras and some of the

956
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: guys that showed that can get it done. By the way,

957
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: what would you do with D'Angelo Russell? Are you waving

958
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: goodbye to the What are you going to do there?

959
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: I think it depends on what can you bring in.

960
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: I think your options depend on what you end up

961
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: doing with him. You know, the thing that you have

962
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: to have is you have to have another score that

963
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: can take some of the load off Lebron and Ad

964
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: because you expected at this stage this is what it

965
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 3: was supposed to be. It was supposed to be Ad

966
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: plays the role of Magic while Lebron plays the role

967
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: of Kareem. It becomes AD's team and Lebron goes from

968
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: being the first option to this second option. It hasn't

969
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: materialized like that consistently enough for us to be confident

970
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: he say, Hey, this is how the team is going

971
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: to be. So now you need a third player to

972
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 3: be able to make up from when AD's not there

973
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: or when Lebron's not there. And so I don't know

974
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 3: if that's D'Angelo Russell. And so based on how he

975
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: played against the Nuggets, man, it makes it hard to say, hey,

976
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: we're gonna rock with him, even though he did do

977
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 3: great things when he came came over.

978
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: By the way, he made thirty one million this year.

979
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: But it's a lot of money. It's a lot of

980
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: yellow cake.

981
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no justification for the Lakers to give him

982
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: that kind of money. But here's the thing. After a

983
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: horrific series that he had where he got benched, benched

984
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: against the Nuggets. I say, I can't imagine a team

985
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: giving him that kind of money. But there's always somebody

986
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: that jumps up and say, oh wow, you know Dangel Russell.

987
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: We can get him, all right. And on the other side,

988
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: there's two two names I gotta throw at at you,

989
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: Bucky in terms of their future. Speaking of the Los

990
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: Angeles Lakers, as they're watching from the sidelines to see

991
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: which two teams will match up in the NBA Finals,

992
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin, Bucky Brooks, Fox

993
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are coming alive from the tirerac dot

994
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: Com studios. So I have much more on tonight's match

995
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: up between the Celtics and the Heat. Can the Celtics

996
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: keep alive their dream of making history as the first

997
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: team ever to overcome a three to zero deficit in

998
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: an NBA playoff series. One team that did not make

999
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: history the Los Angeles Lakers, who went down in four straight, which,

1000
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: by the way, is the norm for a team down

1001
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: three to zero. Normally, the team that's down three to

1002
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: oho goes down four.

1003
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: Oh, and that's it.

1004
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: But the Celtics a little bitfferent path the Lakers. In

1005
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: the aftermath, Lebron James certainly raised in a few eyebrows

1006
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: by even hinting that maybe he's contemplating retirement. Let's put

1007
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: that aside, and I'm with you, Buck, He's not going

1008
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: to walk away from a hundred million dollars.

1009
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 3: He's not going to go out like that.

1010
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: The message is clear though that he is maybe not

1011
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: one hundred percent convinced that the team they have right

1012
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: now is good enough to win a championship. And I

1013
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: do believe him when he says that the only thing

1014
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: keeping him playing is the opportunity to win a championship.

1015
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: Close doesn't count. Close does tell you, though, that you

1016
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: are just that you're close if you add the right pieces.

1017
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: But before we add a piece, we still have to

1018
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: resolve one piece that's there, and that is Anthony Davis.

1019
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: And when you look at this roller coaster ride he

1020
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: has throughout the playoffs offensively and even defensively, A lot

1021
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: of people are saying the reason that he's having a

1022
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: roller coaster ride is very simple. He's not in shape.

1023
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: I mean, playing every other day at a high level.

1024
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: The ad intensity of being a playoffs. He's just not

1025
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: physically capable of doing that. He can play at a

1026
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: very high level, sort of down and they come back big. Well,

1027
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: that doesn't cut it when you're in the playoffs. Now

1028
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: we know in twenty twenty one they won the championship

1029
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: in the Buzzle Bubble. First of all, there was no

1030
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: travel involved, So not only did they have months to

1031
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: get ready for the Bubble, but they had the added

1032
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 2: rest of not having to travel or really worry about

1033
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: anything other than walking from their hotel room to the

1034
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: Bubble to play the game. So it was a perfect

1035
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 2: environment for someone like Anthony Davis, who's had injury troubles

1036
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: his entire life. So let me ask you this, as

1037
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: a man that takes physical fitness seriously. If they were

1038
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 2: to take an Anthony Davis and he was a willing

1039
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: participant in whatever you would suggest to get him more

1040
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: physically ready for an upcoming NBA season where he's not

1041
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: going to play fifty games, maybe gives you seventy games

1042
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: and still have enough gas left to have consistent input

1043
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 2: in all the playoffs all the way to the finish line.

1044
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: Is there a physical fitness regiment that you think would

1045
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: fit somebody like Anthony Davis.

1046
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so I think for us it's unrealistic to think

1047
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 3: that Anthony Davis will play seventy games. He hasn't done

1048
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: that of late. So what we were trying to do

1049
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: is we're trying to get him fresh and ready to

1050
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: go for the postseason. He has to play enough where

1051
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 3: he's in rhythm and ready to rock by the postseason.

1052
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: And I know everyone hates load management, but sometimes with

1053
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: these guys, you have to have your scheduled days off.

1054
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 3: You have to make sure that he doesn't play on

1055
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: back to backs, that you build in a week where

1056
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna give him time off, and it has to

1057
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: be done in concert with the coaching staff, and it

1058
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: should also be done in rhythm with Lebron James, who

1059
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: also probably requires the same amount of stuff. And so

1060
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: you have to have these days on the calendar so

1061
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 3: everyone kind of knows what's going ahead, and maybe you

1062
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 3: have a rolling calender where if AD's off, we need

1063
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: to make sure that Lebron is up. Within reason, you

1064
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 3: can't control the injuries that may happen to do anything,

1065
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: but you want to have a plan like that, and

1066
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 3: you would like to have a third star that might

1067
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: be able to carry it if those two guys need

1068
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: off at the same time. But whatever it is, it's

1069
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: what I thought Russell Westbrook was going to be able

1070
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: to do that. It wasn't about Russell's style of play.

1071
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 3: It was about when Lebron and Ad are out, Russ

1072
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 3: can go get buckets on his own and he can

1073
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 3: single handedly kind of be the offensive spearhead that allows

1074
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 3: everyone else to kind of play and they win. Without

1075
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: those two didn't work out, didn't happen, But it has

1076
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 3: to be thought about it in that aspect from a

1077
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 3: team builder. Here's what we're going to do, because I

1078
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 3: don't think it's realistic to think that both of those

1079
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: guys are gonna play more than sixty games.

1080
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: All right, So the name Kyrie Irving. First of all,

1081
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: can we dismiss this Kyrie Irving situation. The amount of

1082
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: money he would have to leave on the table in

1083
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: order to join the Lakes is substantial, substantial. Kyrie does

1084
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: not strike me as someone that is going to leave

1085
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: a ton of money on the table. Frankly, I wouldn't

1086
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 2: leave a ton of money on the table to what

1087
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: join a now thirty nine year old Lebron James and

1088
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: an injury prone Anthony Davis. The three headed monster no

1089
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 2: longer plays. That may have played ten years ago when

1090
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: Kyrie was with you know, Lebron and a younger Kevin Love,

1091
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: or certainly back when Lebron was with a Dwayne Wade

1092
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: and a Chrish Boston their prime, it is clear that

1093
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: Lebron is not in his prime thirty eight going on

1094
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: thirty nine. And can we say Anthony Davis is an

1095
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: old thirty? I think it's pretty safe to say he's

1096
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: an old thirty because his body keeps breaking down. I

1097
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: don't understand why why anyone even considered. But let's let's

1098
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: play along with the fantasy for just a moment here.

1099
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: Let's play the Let's play the fantasy game where Kyrie

1100
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 2: he says, yeah, I'm walking away from tens of millions

1101
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: of dollars because I just can't wait to because yeah, yeah,

1102
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: I play. Yeah, So he could join the Lakers. I mean,

1103
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: it's going to cost him, but they can't pay him

1104
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: as much as Dallas can to keep him. But let's

1105
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: let's play with the fantasy for a second here. Let's

1106
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: say you get a willing Kyrie irving to take less

1107
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: money to join Lebron and Anthony Davis? Do you have

1108
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: trust in Kyrie with all the antics that have involved

1109
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: as a immensely talented as he is, and I dare

1110
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: say his guard skills are better than any other in

1111
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: this league.

1112
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: I mean he's a fantastic player, phenomenal talent. So what

1113
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: I would.

1114
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: Would you say that that would be the piece that

1115
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: would put the Lakers over the top.

1116
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: I think it would help him. But now you got

1117
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: three guys that you having to rotate because they're only

1118
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 3: playing sixty games a piece, right, But yeah, the thing

1119
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: about it is he is such a bucket. I mean

1120
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 3: he can get his He can get a bucket. Whenever

1121
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 3: we saw with the Mavericks and all that nothing, he

1122
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: got a bad rep with the Mavericks and what happened

1123
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: after that They not only got him, but they got

1124
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: rid of everybody around him. That was more so the

1125
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: issue than.

1126
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: Any No, well, you would have to do the same

1127
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: thing with Kyrie though you couldn't. He can't keep everybody.

1128
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: When just saw Phoenix got their team to get Kevin Durant,

1129
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: how that look? Yeah about Monny Williams's job?

1130
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: It did?

1131
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: Did you remember I asked you, how does Monny Williams

1132
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: to have a job, and then like an hour later

1133
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: he was let oh, that's amazing.

1134
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: It is it is amazing poor money. Yeah, when it

1135
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:43,959
Speaker 3: came to it.

1136
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year's NBA coach of the Year. By the way,

1137
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: I suddenly forgot how to coach. That's amazing.

1138
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:51,959
Speaker 3: It's a different all right.

1139
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this about the guy that

1140
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: was the breakout star for the Lakers, Austin Reeves. So

1141
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: he played great, no question about that, a formally undrafted player,

1142
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: and teams are going to offer him money and the

1143
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: Lakers can match. If a team like the Rockets offers

1144
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: him Jordan Poole money twenty mili fifteen to twenty million year.

1145
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: If you're the Lakers, do you have to say we

1146
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: got to keep them? I mean, how far will you go?

1147
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: And do you believe that this Austin Reeves that we

1148
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: saw down the stretch is the kind of player we

1149
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: can reject for the next five years. Can he's been

1150
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: build on that and become that player.

1151
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: He's a good player for him all year. I mean

1152
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: he's he's he's a really good player. He does it

1153
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: the right way, he plays hard. You can trust him

1154
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 3: in that regard, that's a lot of money. But then

1155
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 3: that going right, you told me the D'Angelo Russell is

1156
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: making thirty. Yeah, if he's making thirty, I certainly give

1157
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 3: Austin reevees anywhere from fifteen to twenty annually.

1158
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, well that's what Jordan Pole. May you

1159
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: know the Warriors game of that big deal that kicks

1160
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: in next year, well over twenty.

1161
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: I saw that Austin Rivers talked about their skill set

1162
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: not being on par in those things. But it appears

1163
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 3: to me that Austin Reeze is just a better teammate.

1164
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 3: You know, I'm willing to pay a little bit of

1165
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: the nice guy tax for Austin Reeves. He just fits

1166
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: what they're doing. And so if Lebron is back and

1167
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: he knows and is very comfortable with Austin Reeves because

1168
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: he developed a comfort level and being able to give

1169
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: him the ball and do all that other stuff, yeah,

1170
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 3: I want to bring him back.

1171
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: By the way, can we make another thing clear. I'm

1172
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: with you one hundred percent that Lebron is not retiring.

1173
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm also giving you one hundred percent he's not getting traded.

1174
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 2: Lebron's career will end as a Los Angeles Laker.

1175
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, his son is playing it at USC right.

1176
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: He's not going to He's not going to go else

1177
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: So I know people are trying to speculate about all

1178
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: kinds of trades. That is just gibberish. Okay, there are

1179
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: no trades. If the Lakers don't want him, say it,

1180
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: they want him. He need They need Lebron James on

1181
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: the marquee to fill those seats. Yes, you take him

1182
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: off the marquee. Why do you think they sign Kobe

1183
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 2: Bryant to that three year deal after he blew his

1184
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: Achilles oh man, because he's Kobe Bryant, even if he

1185
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: wasn't the same player his name.

1186
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did, But guess what they kept.

1187
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's when they had just done

1188
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 2: their new what was then Time Warner Cable deal. I

1189
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: know Time Warner Cable told him you need to keep him.

1190
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: We can't rid ourselves like Kobe Bryant. We have to

1191
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: have a reason for people to watch. Same thing with

1192
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: Lebron James. All right, let's find out what is trending

1193
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: right now. He is the Neil Fraser in the sports

1194
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: talk world. Do you are you even familiar with the

1195
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: Australian Neil Fraser. I am not How far back are

1196
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: you going here? Fraser Fraser? He he is a prominent

1197
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: name from the sixties. Neil Fraser. He won Wimbledon, he

1198
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: won Australia, he won major Grand Slam. Lefty Neil Fraser

1199
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: n e a l E. But he had an interesting career.

1200
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 7: I was like minus twenty five or minus thirty at

1201
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 7: that point.

1202
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 2: Even I was barely alive. And when I say I'm

1203
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: barely alive, you know it's going back in time. But

1204
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: he's you know, he's I mean, if you want to

1205
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: get into little tennis history. Yeah, Neil Fraser is a

1206
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 2: guy that should be remembered.

1207
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 7: And by the way, we're talking about pickleball last hour,

1208
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 7: for anybody who sweats playing pickleball, it's because you were

1209
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 7: playing the sport in a hot yoga studio.

1210
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: That's the only way we had Shake come in. Shae

1211
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 2: came in here. That's why I told him. Yeah, he said,

1212
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: he's sweating. Literally his you know what's off.

1213
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 7: Because he he does do this in inside a.

1214
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: Hot yoga st fourteen something like that, right, just kidding.

1215
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: I love show. When I was his age playing pickup basketball,

1216
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: I barely broke a sweat.

1217
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm breaking a sweat in this studio. We've got

1218
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 7: the ac going on. There's something wrong with me?

1219
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: You got the door open and everything else. Is there

1220
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: something going on in there? What's happening? I'll leave that.

1221
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: I'll leave that to the imagination, because we do have

1222
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: the hot yoga in the in this building. By the way,

1223
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: have they incorporated in your room there or what? You

1224
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: can kind of feel it up against the wall.

1225
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 7: I actually did hot yoga yesterday and it sounds like, Bucky,

1226
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 7: you might have done some hot yoga this morning.

1227
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Every every day we're in there. Every day

1228
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 3: we're trying to figure it out.

1229
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: What what what do we have to do to get

1230
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: Steve to do some hot yoga? You know what? It's

1231
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 2: frightening to me? Look at it.

1232
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: I do it.

1233
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: Well. First of all, my advanced stage. I get my

1234
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: workouts in. I think I'm in reasonablell shape for a

1235
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: man my age. But high yoga scares me because I've

1236
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: I've heard some you know, over the top stories.

1237
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 3: Oh, we're not gonna put you in there. We're not

1238
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 3: gonna like, We're not gonna have it like crazy.

1239
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: We're gon Shomberger ever tell you about his yoga story.

1240
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: Did he almost pass out? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, And he

1241
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: had some female instructor that was just like a drill

1242
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 2: sergeant for him to maintain you know, certain you know

1243
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: poses or whatever they do in that.

1244
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 3: That's not that's not how I was supposed to be. Look,

1245
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: you're mad as you're mat Your journey's your.

1246
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 2: Journey, not to be able to know she was cracking

1247
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 2: the whip on him. She didn't give him CPR, did she?

1248
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what Maybe that's what.

1249
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically told him, you pass out, we carry out,

1250
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: and that's it. If you stay hydrated, you'd be surprised.

1251
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: I think you could handle it. How much? How much

1252
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: fluid do you drink during a hot yoga?

1253
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: I take my little hydro flask in there's maybe a

1254
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 3: thirty two ouncer.

1255
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: What's in that?

1256
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 3: Just water?

1257
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: Just water, not even vitamin water or anything.

1258
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: No, just water. Just wow, okay, very good.

1259
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 7: And then you probably want to take your shirt off,

1260
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 7: just because that's just.

1261
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 3: Why I don't. I always feel like every dude has

1262
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 3: their shirt off. I don't want to see all that.

1263
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you there, and ladies don't have this

1264
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: shirt soft. Exactly, it's not there. John Ramos, you had

1265
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: your shirt off doing the hot yoga today. What the hell?

1266
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: I will stay away from the time with you.

1267
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 3: Steves.

1268
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need that hot yoga, you know. I

1269
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: just have to do a reasonable, blown and decent diet.

1270
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 3: That's pretty much it.

1271
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 7: What is going on in the NBA, and it's certainly

1272
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 7: hot news is Adrian Griffin. Say hello to Adrian Griffin.

1273
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 7: He is the new head coach, according to ESPN and

1274
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 7: other reports for the Milwaukee Bucks. He had spent the

1275
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 7: last sixteen seasons in the NBA as an assistant coach,

1276
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 7: and he beats down Kenny Atkinson, who is a Warriors assistant,

1277
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 7: for the opportunity, even having to go through in the

1278
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 7: vetting process a one on one interview the finalists with

1279
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 7: Giannis Adenta Kumpo and apparently got the approval from Giannis

1280
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 7: as Griffin, who was undrafted started playing in the CBA

1281
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 7: out of college, is getting his first opportunity to be

1282
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 7: an NBA head coach. Speaking of the NBA, tonight, it's

1283
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 7: at eight thirty Eastern. It's Game six of the Eastern

1284
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 7: Conference Finals. Miami's host this one. Celtics have won the

1285
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 7: last two games in this series. Mimi, trying to close

1286
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 7: it out for a third time, had three games to two.

1287
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 7: Major League Baseball Rangers are head of the Orioles two

1288
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 7: to nothing, bottom of the six there. Meanwhile, we do

1289
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 7: have a two to one lead for the Astros against

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Speaker 7: the Athletics top of the sixth in a game that

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Speaker 7: is played in Oakland, and they might have like twenty

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Speaker 7: people at that game. The Dodgers are in front of

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01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 7: the Rays three to two. That one is in the

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Speaker 7: fifth inning, and what has gotten into Max months He

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01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 7: has a home run as another RBI also scored a

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Speaker 7: run himself off a wild pitch, so he has his

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Speaker 7: fingerprints all over the Dodgers offense. Right now, Braves are

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01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 7: chilling the Phillies two to nothing, as the Braves have

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Speaker 7: been two hit by Philly starter Zach Wheeler. And this

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01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 7: is a game that can be seen on FS one Finals.

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01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 7: The Padres losing ten in ings against the Yankees three

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Speaker 7: to two on a walkoff. Tigers get past the White

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01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 7: Sox seven to three, and the Twins edge the Blue

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01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 7: Jays nine to seven in a game that featured seven

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01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 7: home runs collectively. And lastly, guys Harris English is now

1306
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 7: in a tie with Harry Hall. Harrison, Harry Harrison. They

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 7: are in the share of the lead at ten under

1308
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 7: four of the week third round. We are witnessing here

1309
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 7: of the Charles Schwap Challenge. Now Harry Hall started out

1310
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 7: on the outward nine with back to back double.

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01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: Very careful when you say his last name.

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Speaker 7: Yes, well point well said, and I'm going to hand

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01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 7: it right back off to you guys before we go

1314
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 7: anywhere else with that. But yeah, Haull English. They are

1315
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 7: still on the course on their front nine and it's

1316
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 7: one shot leads for both of them each at ten under.

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01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 7: Let's get it back to Bucky Brooks and Steve Hartman.

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01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 7: There's so many things you could do with that. I know,

1319
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 7: there are just so many things. I'll leave it alone.

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Speaker 7: I've learned that over the years. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 7: be Finn.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you a little bit later on once

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Speaker 2: again we're coming to live from the IRAQ dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: I want to switch Scares against to the NFL with you, Bucky,

1325
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: because I saw the brief story. Derek Carr now the

1326
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 2: course the quarterback of the New Orleans Saints, and they

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01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: got Dennis Allen as the head coach. Of course, he

1328
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: was formerly briefly the old faded coach of the Raiders.

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01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 2: That didn't work out very well, but John Gruden was

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01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: brought in to help them sort of put together the

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 2: offense for the upcoming season for Derek Carr. So apparently

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01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: some trust between Derek Carr and John Gruden.

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Speaker 3: Was.

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Speaker 2: What was your thoughts about John Gruden? Who was Let's

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: put this way, John Gruden had become or is being

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01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 2: touted as the new John Madden, right, I mean, a

1337
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: super Bowl winning coach that became a celebrity as an announcer.

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01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: I didn't. I never thought of Gruden in terms of

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01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: talent as an announcer. They'd had the same gravitas of

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01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:08,520
Speaker 2: a John Madden. The reason John Madden was as successful

1341
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: a broadcaster as he was is that he was able

1342
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: to pull off what every broadcaster intends to do, in

1343
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: other words, be themselves. And people liked Madden. He gave

1344
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: him the X and o's that they needed if you

1345
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: were a hardcore football fan, and they gave you just

1346
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: the natural goofiness that appealed to everybody else. It was

1347
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 2: a once in a lifetime situation I never thought of

1348
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: Gruden as that, but he had a tremendous run as

1349
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: a analyst or ESPN was doing his little coaches thing.

1350
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 2: I actually enjoyed that more than his game calls. And

1351
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: then he gets this one hundred million dollar deal with

1352
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: the Raiders to return to coaching in the NFL, and

1353
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: then those emails escape and now he's done blackballed. Always

1354
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: going to hire the guy as an announcer, No one's

1355
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: going to hire him as a head coach. Unfair or

1356
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: did the punishment fit the crime in your opinion?

1357
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a tricky one for me because

1358
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 3: I played for John Gruden back in ninety eight. In

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 3: ninety nine, he had worked me out years ago when

1360
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 3: he was with the Green Bay Packers as a wide

1361
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 3: receiver coach. I was a receiver in the draft that year,

1362
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 3: and so we had a rapport. When I played for

1363
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 3: him with the Raiders. It was his first stint with

1364
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 3: the Raiders of his first season. And loved the energy,

1365
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 3: loved the ingenuity, loved all the stuff that he was bringing.

1366
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: He built that Raiders team back up that eventually competed

1367
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl that lost to his Tampa Bay team.

1368
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: Second go round didn't go as well. I feel like

1369
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 3: he was still a little bit in yesteryear when it

1370
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 3: came to his methods and the way that he did it,

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01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 3: the off the field stuff, when it came to the

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 3: emails and disparaging stuff and all of those things, It's

1373
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: hard to separate the coach and the person that I knew.

1374
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 3: From that, I will say, this great offensive mind, and

1375
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that no one should be given second chances.

1376
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 3: And so if he is able to kind of find

1377
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: his way back into the league as a consultant, as

1378
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,839
Speaker 3: someone who has a lot of wisdom and the ability

1379
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 3: to help quarterbacks, yeah you can bring him in. But

1380
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 3: before he does that, he has to just make the

1381
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: apology offer, penance talk about where he's grown and gone

1382
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 3: from the situation so we can just kind of move

1383
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 3: on and put it behind. He's certainly one of the

1384
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 3: best coaches that I've ever been around and that I've

1385
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 3: ever played for.

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Speaker 2: Well, we never got clarification on what kind of contract

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Speaker 2: settlement he had with the Raiders, memory he had a tenure. Well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, we don't know the specifics of any

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01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: NFL head coaches contract. Does that bother you as a

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01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: player that we got every single detail of every player's

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01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 2: contract and yet nothing. I mean we hear rumors about

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: while he's making this or he's making that, there's no

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01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: concrete evidence to any of this.

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Speaker 3: No, we don't.

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01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 2: I when we heard that, well Gruden got a ten year,

1396
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar contract he.

1397
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Speaker 3: Can talk about like Belichick and yeah, he's.

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Speaker 2: Making fifteen million year. It's all speculation.

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Speaker 3: It is all speculation to bother you.

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Speaker 2: Why would why can't the coaches have.

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 3: All of it is tilted where the players kind of

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01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: get all the brunt of everything and everyone else has

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: protected status from ownership to coaches and those things. Yeah,

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01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 3: I would like to know what they're making, like, yeah,

1405
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 3: put it out there on how much is how big

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01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 3: is the deal? Let's let's see what it is. So

1407
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: without knowing what is I do think it's interesting that

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01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,719
Speaker 3: Dennis Allen brought John Grutin in to teach that offense

1409
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 3: to Derek Carr, and to me, it appears that the

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01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints are trying to meet their new quarterback halfway.

1411
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 3: They're trying to make sure they put things in that

1412
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: are very comfortable and familiar to him so he can

1413
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 3: play well right out the gate. They feel like this

1414
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 3: is a great opportunity. When you look at the quarterbacks

1415
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: in the NFC, it is wide open. You can say, Okay,

1416
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurst is the best quarterback, who's number two? It's

1417
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: wide open your Kirk Cousins, Jerry Golf, Dak Prescott, Derek Carr. Who.

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Speaker 3: So they have a realistic opportunity to make a Super

1419
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: Bowl run if they can get a quarterback playing well.

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01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 3: So it makes sense for why they brought Gruton in

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01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 3: the hill with the install Oh, I think it's brilliant.

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 3: I mean because when you bring in a veteran quarterback

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01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 3: who's had some level of success, as Derek Carr has had,

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01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that we're in a system

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01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 3: that it's going to make him work at one hundred

1426
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: percent something he's comfortable with.

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Speaker 2: That only makes sense, right. This is what has always

1428
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 2: bothered me, especially about the National Football League, where you're

1429
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: trying to plug a square peg in a round hole,

1430
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 2: where you're taking a talent, Okay, we know what you

1431
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: did there, Well, here's how we do things here, and

1432
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: suddenly there's a drop off in their production.

1433
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: Well what happened?

1434
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 2: How about it? Instead? Of putting that player in a

1435
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 2: position to succeed, you put him in a position to fail.

1436
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 2: You're the one responsible, not the player. You're the one

1437
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,839
Speaker 2: that was responsible because you didn't figure out the system

1438
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: that makes that player play at the highest level. All right,

1439
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we got a lot

1440
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 2: of NBA to get to, including the Celtics Heat matchup.

1441
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: Who's the one player that has to show up for

1442
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: the heat tonight to avoid the embarrassment of taking this

1443
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: series to a game seven? We'll tell you this is

1444
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday.

1445
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

1446
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: John Ramos in the house. Hey, John, does does your

1447
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: daughter have a date with high school graduation? She does.

1448
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 6: She'll be graduating from high school this upcoming Thursday, June

1449
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 6: the first.

1450
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,879
Speaker 2: That's a big moment, by the way, you know, it's interesting.

1451
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: So my kids were a graduates of class of twenty fifteen, sixteen,

1452
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: and nineteen. If you look at the photos of me

1453
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 2: at my three children's high school graduations, I'm wearing the

1454
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: exact same shirt, slacks, and shoes. You know my consistency

1455
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: in my in my gear, I do yes, Steve, and

1456
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: so in all three photos I am wearing the exact

1457
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: same outfit. I like consistency.

1458
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 6: The question I would have for you, Steve is I

1459
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 6: know you see that you recognize that the question movie

1460
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 6: does everybody else reconie?

1461
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: See?

1462
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing. And I came to this realization.

1463
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 2: Like on television all the years that I've been doing

1464
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: television in LA I only have two suits and three shirts.

1465
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 2: So I have a gray suit that has a purple shirt,

1466
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 2: purple tie, and then I have a blue suit, nice

1467
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: blue where I have the UCLA colors I like call

1468
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: with like the yellow shirt with the the baby blue tie,

1469
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: and then a blue shirt with a red tie. And

1470
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 2: it was funny. Our news director I used to walk

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 2: in with that blue suit. Every time he saw me,

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01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: he would say something, Hey, love the suit. I'm literally

1473
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 2: been wearing the suit on the same station for years,

1474
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: literally years. So when you say, does anybody really notice?

1475
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 2: I figured this out a long time ago, The answer

1476
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: is no. That's good. I always tell my kids this,

1477
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: you know, like they I can't go out I got

1478
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: you know, I'm having a bad hair day, or I

1479
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: got a pimple or something. I go Nobody's looking. I

1480
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 2: promise you, nobody is looking. You're looking.

1481
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 3: I think I think nobody else cares. I think that's unbelievable.

1482
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 3: Two suits, three shirts.

1483
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, on an LA TV station for years, every week.

1484
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 3: Same Brian is behind the glasses. Absolutely just incredulously.

1485
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: See fan, if you look at if you were to

1486
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: literally you know how many years I anchoring the weekends?

1487
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Same, two suits.

1488
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 7: Two questions for you? Are you talking about the shoes

1489
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 7: the new balance to velcro ones that you've been wearing

1490
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 7: for thirty years? And when it comes to you being

1491
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 7: on the desk, how many times have you worn shorts

1492
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 7: underneath the cover of the desk?

1493
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, on top. When I went to

1494
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: my new station years ago, I do stand ups. I

1495
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,480
Speaker 2: don't sit behind a desk. Oh Now, when I first started,

1496
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 2: I did work with people that sat behind a desk,

1497
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 2: and I tried it. One time. We had a weather guy,

1498
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you who literally had a coat, tie

1499
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 2: and shirt. Not only did he have shorts on while standing,

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01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 2: he had flip flops on.

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Speaker 3: Oh god.

1502
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,879
Speaker 2: And I would watch him because I'm seeing this obviously,

1503
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 2: and I'm like, if he takes one step back, he's

1504
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,919
Speaker 2: totally exposed. But he was a master. He knew exactly

1505
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 2: where to stand, so you wouldn't know it, but he

1506
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 2: that was his gear every time.

1507
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 3: I don't I don't even know what to say today.

1508
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 3: Not only shorts, but flip flops.

1509
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 2: Flip flops, oh yeah on stage on stage shorts like yeah,

1510
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 2: short shorts and flip flops.

1511
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 3: I feel like the TV guys are just.

1512
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 6: Buddy, can you get away with that at the NFL network? Like,

1513
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 6: will they let you do that?

1514
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 3: In general, you can get away with some of the

1515
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 3: stuff if you're sitting down, But most of the time

1516
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 3: it's two dynamic, you're standing up, you're doing stuff. It

1517
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 3: depends on how many cameras are operating on a day.

1518
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 3: But I get the local TV look like I've had

1519
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 3: people I used to work with h those guys don't

1520
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 3: speak and whitlock and marselis and sometimes they would come

1521
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 3: in with sweats and all that. But you just top.

1522
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 3: But I am more impressed with the three suits, the

1523
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 3: two suits and three shirts. Like, to me, that is

1524
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 3: more the thing. Now I learn from my guy. I

1525
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 3: always give Paul Burme. He talked about, hey man, just

1526
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 3: invest in two nice high end suits and do it

1527
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 3: that way. Don't go and get five and well, these

1528
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 3: just two expense nice suits and then just switch to

1529
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 3: shirt and tie game. But that what you're talking about.

1530
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and these are custom suits, you know. My

1531
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 2: shoulders being that though, we are all right, I forgot

1532
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: to tell you who is the must player for the

1533
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,360
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Speaker 2: We're two and a half hours away from tip off

1548
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 2: Game six Eastern Conference Finals. The Miami Heat will host

1549
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics. The Celtics, by the way, now are

1550
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: four and zher in this postseason in closeout games remember

1551
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: they had to win the last two against the Sixers

1552
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: to pull out that series in seven. Now they have

1553
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: won two closeout games to extend this series to six games.

1554
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 2: So the Miami Heat after their loss, and it was

1555
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 2: a very one sided game Game five in Boston, no surprise. Really,

1556
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 2: it was almost a mailing game. In fact, the starters

1557
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 2: for miamily have scored forty four points. I mean they

1558
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 2: barely played. They cleared the bench Martin and high Smith

1559
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 2: Robinson played a lot of minutes.

1560
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 3: In that game.

1561
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: So we look ahead to the game tonight and there's

1562
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: two names I want to bring up. The one name,

1563
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 2: obviously is Jimmy Butler, who really didn't even show up

1564
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: for this last game. In fact, in thirty four minutes,

1565
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: they were a negative twenty four with Jimmy on the court,

1566
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 2: which is very un Jimmy Butler like. But he also

1567
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: had only fourteen points in this game. So they've jammed

1568
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: up things inside Boston. And that means that Jimmy Butler,

1569
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 2: who is as adept as any player in this league

1570
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 2: of getting to his spot on the floor. Kobe was

1571
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 2: a master of this as well back in the day.

1572
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 2: Didn't mean that his spot on the floor was twenty

1573
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: eight feet out. You know, it was mid range jumpers.

1574
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 2: Butler is not a big three point shooter. He knows

1575
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: his spots on the court and he is able to

1576
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: find those spots and get the shots that he feels

1577
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 2: most comfortable with. That has always been a strength of

1578
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's game, So he's going to have to do that.

1579
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: But again, if Jimmy Butler doesn't play at a high level,

1580
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: predictably the Heat don't play at a high level. There

1581
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 2: are very few players in this league right now that

1582
01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: have that kind of impact on their teammates. But it's

1583
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 2: safe to say, as Jimmy Butler goes, so go the

1584
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: Miami Heat.

1585
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1586
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 3: No, I mean there's a lot of truth to that.

1587
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler is a huge catalyst for what the Miami

1588
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 3: Heat have been able to do offensively, and he needs

1589
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 3: to play well for this team to play at their

1590
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 3: best and the close out games. That's it. I think

1591
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 3: the most important player is not only Jimmy Butler. I

1592
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 3: would say it's Bam out of Bayo. Bam out of

1593
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 3: Bayo has been the one that has been the difference

1594
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: in terms of how well that he'd have played in

1595
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 3: the wins and how poorly they played and the losses.

1596
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 3: When he plays well and gets over twenty, they have

1597
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 3: a tendency to win games. He needs to play big.

1598
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 3: He got a little too cute the last couple of games.

1599
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 3: Too many turnovers from the Heat in general, and they

1600
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 3: haven't rebounded turnovers offensive rebounds like deficit and then allowing

1601
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 3: them to shoot a million threes. That is a recipe

1602
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 3: for disaster any level, high school, college and beyond. And

1603
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 3: so they have to tighten up on that part, eliminate

1604
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 3: to turnovers, make sure they dominate the last they do

1605
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 3: those things they average just to win, all right.

1606
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: So there's one other player I wanted to bring up

1607
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 2: that in my opinion, has to be productive. Doesn't necessarily

1608
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: have to be the star of the game for the Heat,

1609
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:19,759
Speaker 2: but they need production, and that is Kyle Lowry. Because

1610
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: it does appear that Gave Vincent is not ready to

1611
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 2: come back from that ankle injury. He's listed as questionable.

1612
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: Same thing he was listed for Game five and he

1613
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: didn't show up in that game. Kyle Lowry in this

1614
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: game five, in thirty minutes, took only five shots. He

1615
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: had five points, two rebounds, one assist in four turnovers.

1616
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I mean that's I mean, this

1617
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 2: is a six time All Star. I've always been a

1618
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry fan always because he is He's a big

1619
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 2: time player, he plays big, and he completely disappeared in

1620
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 2: this game. He can't do that at home. This is

1621
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 2: not going to be the hostile crowd they had in

1622
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 2: TD Garden in Boston. He's fans of Miami going to

1623
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 2: be on their feet throughout this game, rooting this team

1624
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: on to get to the NBA Finals, and Kyle Lowry

1625
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 2: is going to have to at the very least he's

1626
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 2: going to start. I don't know Vincent will be available

1627
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: that it's clear that that ankle injury, which looked pretty

1628
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: serious when we saw it happen and satig game five,

1629
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: is not going to be much of a factor in

1630
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 2: Game six if he plays at all. So you've got

1631
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: to have other options here. You mentioned obviously your stars,

1632
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 2: and Butler and Adebayo, who else, I mean, guys off

1633
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 2: the bench, Martin high Smith, Robinson. They have points. It's

1634
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: hard to gauge the points that they scored in Game

1635
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: five because it was really garbage time almost from the

1636
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: get go. But Kyle Lowry is a big game player,

1637
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 2: and I know there's a lot of tread on the tires,

1638
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 2: but they only need for this one game. In other words,

1639
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 2: I assume that gave Vincent if they get to the

1640
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: finals with all the added days off, we'll be ready

1641
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 2: to go. And it's not like gave Vincent is some

1642
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 2: do or die player, but he's had some productive games offensively.

1643
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: But they've got to get something out of Kyle Lowry

1644
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 2: in this game tonight or I predicted we'll go to

1645
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:09,480
Speaker 2: a game seven.

1646
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 3: So here's what I wonder. If you're Eric Spolster, do

1647
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 3: you gave Vincent out even if he could play maybe

1648
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 3: at sixty five? And wait, a, if we don't win this,

1649
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 3: we need him fully ready to go game seven. Do

1650
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 3: we sit him out two games just in case we

1651
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:29,839
Speaker 3: may have to go game seven.

1652
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 2: I start Kyle Lowry hoping that we're gonna get more.

1653
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 3: Again.

1654
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry is a champion. He's been in big games.

1655
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: He's a veteran, he's a marginal Hall of Fame candidate,

1656
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 2: six time All.

1657
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 3: Star, he's it's also game six hounds.

1658
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: Really yeah, six years in a row he made the

1659
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 2: All Star team. Wow, you don't think of Kyle Lowry

1660
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: in those turns.

1661
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 3: But he did. I definitely didn't.

1662
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: But you got to get something now if he doesn't.

1663
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: If game six starts out as a repeat of Game

1664
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 2: five and gave Vincent Campbell, absolutely I'm gonna throw them

1665
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 2: in there because you need a spark, you need something.

1666
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 2: You can't just lean on Jimmy Butler and out of

1667
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 2: bio to get it done. They can't have a repeat

1668
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: of being down fifteen at the end of the first

1669
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: quarter home court. You got to be leading at the end.

1670
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: If the Celtics are leading this game at the end

1671
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 2: of the first quarter, Celtics will win this game.

1672
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 3: See. I think it's more because.

1673
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 2: It's a confidence thing with the Celtics.

1674
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 3: I mean they're front runners. Yeah, I mean they jump

1675
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: out in front, they play from ahead like they're good. Now,

1676
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 3: if it's the wave, what you're hoping for if you're Miami,

1677
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 3: is the wave of emotional energy and burst that you

1678
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 3: will get from the home crowd. I think it's a

1679
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 3: white out trying to wrap it up like we're ten.

1680
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 3: Roleplayers tend to play better at home. Yeah, they if

1681
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 3: they are able to kind of stave off that initial

1682
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 3: outburst and play from a head. Yeah, I mean, you're

1683
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 3: gon tough sledding. However, if it's a thirteen to one

1684
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 3: run early, they're down double digits early, who knows what

1685
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 3: it looked like, because then they'll start one on one.

1686
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 3: Right now, they play team ball. He had like three

1687
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 3: got four guys over twenty points the other day. That's

1688
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 3: perfect for the Celtics, but that's not how they normally

1689
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 3: get down normally. As Brown goes, Tatum goes, I go,

1690
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 3: you go back and forth.

1691
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 2: A week ago today, we were talking about the Celtics

1692
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 2: going into Game three, and I said, because Tatum was

1693
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 2: awful in the first two games, didn't make a single

1694
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 2: field goal in the fourth quarter of either games one

1695
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: or two at home, that you have to put the

1696
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: ball in the hands of Jalen Brown. Apparently Jason Tatum

1697
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: was listening, because after the Game three fiasco, Tatum has

1698
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: been off the charts. Meanwhile, where is Jalen Brown?

1699
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 3: Where is he?

1700
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Tatum's been phenomenal, He's.

1701
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 3: Kind of come into he I think he went three

1702
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 3: for five the other night from three.

1703
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: But a lot of people are saying that this dynamic

1704
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 2: of these two all NBA players, Tatum and Brown has

1705
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 2: reached the end. If the Celtics lose tonight, if this

1706
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 2: series ends and once again they fall short of where

1707
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: they expect to be, and that's winning an NBA championship,

1708
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 2: would you break up that duo.

1709
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 3: No. I wouldn't break them up because I don't think

1710
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 3: it's fair to break them up right now. This team

1711
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 3: is loaded. I mean team is loaded, team is talented.

1712
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 3: Team should have been number one seed based on the

1713
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: talent that they have. Coach got built a bit bad

1714
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 3: hand three days before training game, begets named a head coach,

1715
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 3: doesn't get a chance to bring his assistance, doesn't get

1716
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 3: a chance to build his offense and defensive schemes, and

1717
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 3: those things kind of thrust upon the players. I think

1718
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 3: you keep it together at least for one more run.

1719
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 3: I mean they no one has won more games and

1720
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 3: this crew of the last four or five years, Yeah.

1721
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 2: But they haven't been in mid them beginning to the

1722
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: conference finals.

1723
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 3: Got to keep knocking on the door. One run to

1724
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 3: the finals, last to the finals. The thing you can't

1725
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 3: you can't be short sighted and say, oh my gosh,

1726
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 3: we were Look at all the coaches who've been fired

1727
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 3: because you think about the Bucks. A couple of years ago,

1728
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 3: they win the finals. Two years later they're off on

1729
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 3: another coach. I think continuity and consistency. You want to

1730
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 3: keep it together, just keep pushing if it doesn't work out.

1731
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 2: So the Bucks have hired a new coach.

1732
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Adrian Griffin. How about that?

1733
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 2: Isn't Adrian Griffin been like an assistant coach for every

1734
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 2: team in the league.

1735
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 3: I mean he played for every team. I mean that's

1736
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 3: what happens.

1737
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm happy for the Bucks that they didn't get

1738
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to get rid of a

1739
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 2: guy like bootenholz Er, why would you bring in Nick Nurse?

1740
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: Why would you bring in a Frank Vogel, Why would

1741
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 2: you bring in a Monte wait Thing, Doc Rivers? Why

1742
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: would you bring out somebody else's everybody that was saying

1743
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 2: was just no disrespect. They were just average coaches. Like

1744
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 2: you look at their records and stuff.

1745
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 3: It was like Kenny Atkinson, Nick Nurse and yeah Adrian Griffin,

1746
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 3: Like you're getting the same stuff. But why move off

1747
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 3: of Bootenholzer if you're not getting a clear upgrade. I'm

1748
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 3: not saying that Adrian Griffin is gonna be upgrade. But

1749
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 3: we don't know. We haven't seen him. We've seen the

1750
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 3: other guys. We know what their product is. Well, we

1751
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 3: didn't know about Steve Kerr when they Warriors hired him

1752
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 3: over Mark Jackson.

1753
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 2: Now, did we No, we didn't. We had no idea.

1754
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 3: Then he did a good job of taking what Mark

1755
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 3: left right and elevating it. Are you a fan of

1756
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: the Van Gundy brothers as broadcasts or his coaches?

1757
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 2: Well, they're both ex coaches, so nobody. I'm talking about

1758
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: the fact that we alternate from one Van Gundy to another,

1759
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 2: from one NBA series another, that a Van Gundy is

1760
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 2: front and center. Are you fan? I'm okay, okay, that's

1761
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 2: what he said.

1762
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 3: I'm okay, I'm fine with it.

1763
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 2: In other words, you're really not. If you asked me

1764
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 2: who I would want, who's your favorite NBA analyst.

1765
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 3: Hubey Brown, Hue Brown? I want hub Brown on it

1766
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 3: because when I watch the games and Hube Brown is

1767
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 3: calling it, I'm going to learn something. He's going to

1768
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 3: teach me something where I'm like, oh, okay, that that

1769
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 3: makes sense. If I was still playing pickle, I'm gonna

1770
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 3: go do that. I'm ana run right up under the

1771
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 3: rim and post up.

1772
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Hub Brown. And by the way,

1773
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: Hube was elected to the Basketball Hall of Fame as

1774
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 2: a contributor. I mean he had some success as a

1775
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 2: coach obviously. Uh, the late great Uh doctor Jack Ramsey

1776
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 2: was the same one.

1777
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 3: I like doctor Jack.

1778
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was another guy that you know. Yeah, but

1779
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 2: you and I are different, you know, I don't know.

1780
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like I like being I want to I

1781
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 3: want a coach to teach me, to teach me what

1782
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I just don't want and look, it needs

1783
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,839
Speaker 3: to be entertaining. But there was something about when Hube

1784
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 3: is on, I'm gonna tune in because I'm going to

1785
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 3: learn something about basketball. He's gonna talk about strategy, he's

1786
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,759
Speaker 3: gonna give me tactics and all that other stuff.

1787
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 2: Here's the problem I have, especially with stan Van Gundy.

1788
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 2: He literally repeats himself for the entire broadcast like he

1789
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 2: has something in his mind about this guy is this

1790
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 2: or this guy is that, and he'll repeat it over.

1791
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 3: And over, you know, and he's trying to sell his point.

1792
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 3: He said his performance, or he's trying to sell his point.

1793
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 2: You're an analyst, right, yes, you do a lot of

1794
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 2: prep to be an analyst. I did it for a

1795
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 2: couple of years on radio with UCLA, and there's a

1796
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 2: lot of prep involved. I mean, you want to be

1797
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 2: in the moment, but you have to show that you

1798
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: did a little homework and are not just observing what

1799
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 2: we're all observing. Right, Yes, it's got to be a

1800
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 2: balance a little bit.

1801
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 3: Yes, you know you don't like you don't like sam

1802
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 3: An Gundy stole.

1803
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 2: No, and it's not a personal thing. I'm sure he's

1804
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 2: a nice guy, but no, Now my style for the NBA.

1805
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, a lot

1806
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 2: of NFL news were going to get to because well,

1807
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 2: at least some of the players are on the field.

1808
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: We got the latest. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve

1809
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 2: Harbin and Bucky Brooks, Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming alive

1810
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 2: from the Tirak dot Com studios. So again, we'll have

1811
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 2: to wait, regardless of the outcome of this heat Celtics

1812
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 2: game tonight, until Thursday, before the start of the NBA Finals.

1813
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 2: By the way, the Nuggets haven't played since Monday. That

1814
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 2: means they're going to have ten days off. Ten days off,

1815
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 2: and there's the infamous story My dear friend, Michael Thompson,

1816
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 2: two time champion with the Lakers, will tell you what

1817
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 2: happened in nineteen eighty nine to the Lakers. The Lakers

1818
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 2: are looking to three peat, and they swept all three

1819
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 2: playoff series in the Western Conference, all three rounds. First

1820
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,759
Speaker 2: round was three out of five, so three straight, four straight,

1821
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: four straight, eleven to zero in the playoffs. Pat Riley,

1822
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 2: their coach, as they awaited to see who they were

1823
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 2: going to play in the NBA Finals, freaked out about

1824
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 2: being stale with the layoff for the NBA Finals, and

1825
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 2: as Michael said, he put us through boot camp like

1826
01:34:56,760 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 2: we started the season all over again. It was Kareem's

1827
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 2: last year. So what happened, Magic got hurt, Byron got

1828
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 2: hurt in camp during this interim they got because they

1829
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 2: were going through these strenuous workouts because Riley went to

1830
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 2: make sure everyone was ready to go, and they ended

1831
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 2: up getting swept. All four series were sweeps that year

1832
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 2: for the Lakers. Pistons put them away in four straight.

1833
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,759
Speaker 2: That's how Kareem ended his career. So if you're Malone

1834
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 2: right now coaching your Nuggets, and he's he's already talked

1835
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 2: about some concerns about being a little stale with a

1836
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 2: ten day layoff before the Nuggets either will host the

1837
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 2: Heat or go to Boston. How would you handle that

1838
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,799
Speaker 2: as a coach. To make sure your team is sharp

1839
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 2: ready for the start of the NBA Finals.

1840
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 3: Try and keep everything consistent. Whatever you've done to this point,

1841
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 3: you want to stay with it. If you've been a

1842
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 3: team that has been a grind it out, he we

1843
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 3: work hard, we can condition, we can do all we

1844
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 3: can continue to do that. If you've been a team

1845
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 3: that has been more about, hey, let's polish it up

1846
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 3: and get it ready. We're minimal practice time and we

1847
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 3: can get in and out. We're going to do those

1848
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 3: things now. The one thing you have to do when

1849
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 3: you have a nine day layoff, Conditioning is everything. So

1850
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 3: you got to make sure you run them. You got

1851
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 3: to make sure that you get some live scrimmaging in

1852
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 3: to keep their win their cardio up. But you don't

1853
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,759
Speaker 3: want to overdo it and that you know, it's funny

1854
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 3: because that's a lesson to me when you talk about

1855
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 3: pat Riley doing it. Because I love what he's done,

1856
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 3: I love what the Heat have done, I love all

1857
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 3: the culture stuff. But some of the cons to that

1858
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 3: sometimes you can grind them to the nub and they

1859
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 3: may not have anything. So it's that fine line. Would

1860
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 3: you get them just enough to keep them ready without

1861
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 3: overdoing it?

1862
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Riley in years afterwards has admitted that he overdid it.

1863
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 3: He overdid it.

1864
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, he'd already guaranteed the back to back, which

1865
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 2: they delivered on and then he remember he got the

1866
01:36:55,439 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 2: copyright on three peat. Yeah, the whole thing. And Michael

1867
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 2: said he just freaked out and they're all look at him.

1868
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 3: Like, what are we doing here?

1869
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 2: This is this is not training camp, Like you know,

1870
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 2: we've played a lot of games already this year, you know,

1871
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 2: and by the way, we're going to be playing a

1872
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: very physical team in the Pistons, but we need to

1873
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:16,759
Speaker 2: be healthy.

1874
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 3: Okay. So now in retro, I know Michael say that

1875
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 3: they messed it up, But some would say that the

1876
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 3: Djroit Pistons should have won the year before. Sure, for

1877
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 3: Isaiah and the ankle and the epic performance that he

1878
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 3: had on that ankle where he hops over everybody and

1879
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 3: kind of hobble along down the court, some would say

1880
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 3: that the Pistons were doing it wouldn't have mattered if

1881
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 3: they had not had the training camp like practices that

1882
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 3: they were going to get whooped by the Pistons.

1883
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 2: Anyway, can I tell you a quick story about that

1884
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 2: ankle injury? So Game six, Isaiah gets hurt. Remember the

1885
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: Lakers were down three games to two. They had to

1886
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 2: win the last two games, and he rehabbed to get

1887
01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 2: ready for Game seven at our facilities with the Raiders.

1888
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 7: Mmm.

1889
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 2: So Mike Ornstein, Ornie our marketing guy at the time.

1890
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 2: Ornie was a friend of Isaiah. So here we were,

1891
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there going, are you kidding me? Why?

1892
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 2: Why are we helping Isaiah Thomas get ready for Game seven?

1893
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 3: I was outrage. Ornie had that kind of pull. You know,

1894
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 3: Ornie's not so so that's funny. Now that you tell

1895
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 3: me that Ornie had a relationship with Isaiah, it makes sense.

1896
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen the documentary that they've

1897
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 3: talked about bad boys. Yeah, they talked about how they

1898
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 3: were they made themselves the bad boys, and how they

1899
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 3: emulated the Raiders. It now makes more sense to me, Yes,

1900
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 3: why they wanted to do some of the bad boy things.

1901
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 3: And I think they had to skull.

1902
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 2: In clen You imagine how I felt as a Laker

1903
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 2: Fancy and Isaiah on Our in else again, I know, like.

1904
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 3: You probably kicked him.

1905
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 2: You probably kicked them in pass is, Like, are you

1906
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 2: kidding me?

1907
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 3: You probably kicked him in passing.

1908
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 2: Thank God for Big Game James. The only triple double

1909
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 2: of his higher NBA career was Game seven of the

1910
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 2: NBA Finals thirty six point sixteen rebounds tennis. The Big

1911
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 2: Game James, Big Game James. Where did he plays college ball?

1912
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 3: He's my favorite player in North Carolina, and I think

1913
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 3: people forget how good he was. Michael Jordan hit the

1914
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,879
Speaker 3: shot that year. But yeah, James, he was the American

1915
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 3: on that team. He was one of my favorite people.

1916
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 3: I worked with him many years on that thing.

1917
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 2: All right, I want to go to you your odyssey.

1918
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: You were in Jacksonville this week. Let's start right there.

1919
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 2: I mean, Doug Peterson takes over a complete disaster from

1920
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer, and a lot of people question if Doug Peterson,

1921
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 2: how long will it take for him to turn things around?

1922
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 2: How about one year? One year, not only did they

1923
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 2: get to the postseason, they pulled off one of the

1924
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 2: greatest comebacks in playoff history to get to the second round.

1925
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden. We look at Jacksonville from

1926
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:57,799
Speaker 2: a team that had the top pick in the drafting

1927
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 2: consecutive years to what where where do you project this

1928
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars team in twenty twenty three?

1929
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 3: The team should be one of the top four teams

1930
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 3: in the AFC and slow down, slow down, top four?

1931
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, hold on, we got the Chiefs, Bengals, Bills. Well,

1932
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 3: they should win the division, so that puts them in

1933
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 3: the top four. Okay, as you win the division, okay,

1934
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 3: three rookies that could play in the division, try and Tanna.

1935
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 2: Here, so you would have them power wise ranked ahead

1936
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 2: of the Ravens, the Jets.

1937
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I like this. I want to hear right

1938
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 3: the quarterback?

1939
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 2: So what do you see in Trevor Lawrence?

1940
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean, well, obviously, So here's what I was saying.

1941
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 3: Why people, if you are a fantasy football owner or

1942
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 3: one that is getting ready for the draft, I would

1943
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 3: circle and start the name Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley gives

1944
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 3: the Jaguars something that they haven't had, which is a

1945
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 3: true number one receiver on the perimeter. The reason that

1946
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 3: is important is because with Doug Peterson, the offense last

1947
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 3: year as good as they were, they still missed that

1948
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 3: explosive element. And now Kevin really isn't a speeds or,

1949
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 3: but what he is is an outstanding route runner. And

1950
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 3: so for a play designer like Doug Peterson, it allows

1951
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 3: you to creativity to come up with plays that will

1952
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 3: get him one on one and allow him to play

1953
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 3: to his strengths. That also recessed the pecking quarterer because

1954
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 3: now you have Kevin Really at one, Christian KIRKTT two's

1955
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:24,480
Speaker 3: Ay Jones at three, and then Evan Ingram with Travis atienne,

1956
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 3: you now have the ability to do a bunch of

1957
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 3: different things offensively. And I'll say this, this is a

1958
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 3: team that will push the pace to see if they

1959
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,679
Speaker 3: can get thirty points a game, because then that allows

1960
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 3: them to play bemba, don't break on defense. And if

1961
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:39,879
Speaker 3: they're able to hit that thirty point mark each week,

1962
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 3: that's gonna put him in serious consideration for not only

1963
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 3: win a division, but to compete for one to top

1964
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 3: two seeds.

1965
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence obviously has been in the spotlight ever since

1966
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 2: leading Clemson too a championship his freshman year. But I

1967
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 2: look back at that playoff comeback against the Chargers, the

1968
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 2: fact that he threw those four picks. I mean, that

1969
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 2: would demoralize. Here's your first NFL playoff game and you're

1970
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 2: stinking up the joint. You've handed the team essentially the game,

1971
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 2: You've four interceptions, you handed it. And for him to

1972
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 2: keep his wits about him an engineer that comeback after

1973
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 2: that kind of a start. I mean, I was always

1974
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 2: a fan of Trevor Lawrence, and we know he checks

1975
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 2: all the boxes, but sometimes you always wonder, Okay, when

1976
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 2: things are going good. It's easy to look good. When

1977
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 2: you're at Clemson and you're better than ninety nine percent

1978
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 2: of your opponents, it's easy to look good. How will

1979
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 2: you deal in your darkest moment? And we saw that

1980
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 2: from Trevor Lawrence in that playoff game.

1981
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 3: That was huge. It was really a big deal for

1982
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 3: him to be able to bounce back from it was

1983
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,640
Speaker 3: as bad as it could possibly be haveing many inceptions

1984
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,919
Speaker 3: he threw in the first half coming back from that deficit,

1985
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 3: but he learned from it, and he was able to

1986
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 3: learn in a win with significant goes and plays pretty

1987
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 3: decent the next week against Kansas City. But those two

1988
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 3: playoff games that experience, well, you can't get that invaluable,

1989
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 3: and so now he comes back to what I will

1990
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 3: say is a better offensive squad. And so with Calvin

1991
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 3: Ridley and the guys that we've talked about, this is

1992
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 3: a better team, a more explosive team, and they're gonna

1993
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 3: put the pressure on the offense to carry the water. Defensively,

1994
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 3: there's still some questions. Can they get generate enough pass

1995
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 3: rush to preserve leads? And are they talented enough in

1996
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 3: the back end and the secondary to keep the ball

1997
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 3: from flying over the top. If they can do those

1998
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 3: things to compliment what should be a good offense, Yeah,

1999
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 3: this is a team that could surprise and really end

2000
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 3: up in the final four.

2001
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 2: Is there any challenge in that division?

2002
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean it's a challenge because the Tennessee Titans

2003
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 3: have lorded over the division for a long time, so

2004
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,719
Speaker 3: they'll be tough. There's brand to play with. Ryan Tannehill

2005
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 3: and Derreck Henry will make it tough. The Houston Texans

2006
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 3: and the Indianapolis Colts, those are teams that have some talent.

2007
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 3: But you got rookie quarterbacks. So how good can you

2008
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 3: be immediately with a rookie quarterback in place?

2009
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what it's trending right now.

2010
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 2: Here is the Richard Dick Sears of Sports talk Radio.

2011
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say, Tim Henman. I was thinking,

2012
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 2: you know what. On the way in, I was thinking,

2013
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 2: Tim Henman, gorn Evenisovich. I'm going all the way to

2014
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 2: the beginning. Because Richard Dick Sears, Harvard guy who looked

2015
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 2: like a college professor, won the first seven US Nationals

2016
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 2: as it was then known, before, of course became now

2017
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 2: the US Open, first seven in a row. No one's

2018
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 2: ever done that since. Here's the catch. They used to

2019
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 2: have what they call it challengers round, so the defending

2020
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 2: champion did not compete until the main bracket would produce

2021
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 2: a champion, and then you would face him in one match.

2022
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 2: How would that change the dynamic of modern tennis if

2023
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 2: the defending champion could sit and wait to play a

2024
01:44:55,280 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 2: single match to win a championship. I don't know how

2025
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 2: that would play. It's like a DH right, you're sitting

2026
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 2: on the bench all day. Some people can do it,

2027
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 2: some people can't. The idea that you would be sitting

2028
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,679
Speaker 2: around that other person's got six matches under their belt, boom,

2029
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: ready to roll, and you're just sitting around, But that's

2030
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 2: how they did it back in the.

2031
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 7: The thing about tennis is there's really not an advantage

2032
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 7: to sitting out because there's so much of a gain

2033
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 7: in getting those reps and getting that experience.

2034
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 2: Out there on the court.

2035
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 3: Point.

2036
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, there could be other sports like the NFL, where

2037
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 7: injury you just want to make sure you're only playing

2038
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 7: when you have to.

2039
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 2: I don't even think that works. Yeah. How many times

2040
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 2: have we seen teams rest? Yeah, you know, and then

2041
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,879
Speaker 2: they have a bye wig and they come back stale. Yeah,

2042
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 2: happens a lot. But you're yeah, you got to look

2043
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 2: him up. Richard Sears aka Dick Sears. I will do

2044
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 2: that and no relationship to Sears Roebuck. Yeah, well, I

2045
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 2: certainly was thinking about that. But you go from talking

2046
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 2: about rookie quarterbacks to a rookie head coach in the NBA.

2047
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 2: Adrian Griffin is the new guy for the Milwaukee Bucks

2048
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 2: that according to ESPN, it's all but done. They're just

2049
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 2: working out some of the finer details on the financial

2050
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 2: elements as far as how much money he's going to make,

2051
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 2: all the terms of the contract. But he did beat

2052
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 2: out Kenny Atkinson as another finalist. Atkinson an assistant for

2053
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 2: the Warriors, and part of the hiring process involved the finalists.

2054
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 2: I'm going to sit down one on one with Bucks

2055
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 2: standout Giannis Denttacumpo, and Giannis apparently approved of Griffin, who

2056
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 2: got the nod and did so after paying his dues.

2057
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,799
Speaker 2: Sixteen years as.

2058
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 7: The assistant coach in the NBA, spending over five different teams,

2059
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,440
Speaker 7: gets that initial opportunity to become a head coach. Speaking

2060
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 7: of the NBA, tonight, it is going to be Game

2061
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 7: six Eastern Conference Finals Miami Heat for a third time.

2062
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 7: We'll try to close things out. They have failed to

2063
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 7: do that. They lead three games to two in their

2064
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,839
Speaker 7: head to head against the Boston Celtics, and the Celts

2065
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 7: have won the last two games. As far as Major

2066
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 7: League Baseball, a ton of games are in progress as

2067
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 7: of right now. The Rangers are putting the finishing touches

2068
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 7: on a potential win, up five to one against the Orioles.

2069
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 7: As the Orioles are batting for the last time here

2070
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 7: in the bottom of the ninth, the Astros have scored

2071
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 7: four unanswered and they are in front of the Athletic

2072
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 7: six to one. On the bottom of the eighth, although

2073
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 7: the Ace who are playing at home, have bases loaded.

2074
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 7: Max Mounts, he has two hits, one for a home run,

2075
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 7: a solo shot for him, and the Dodgers are trying

2076
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 7: to lift past the Ray six to four. That's the score.

2077
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 7: Top of the ninth inning la is at the dish.

2078
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,719
Speaker 7: The Phillies are in front two to one against the Braves,

2079
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 7: a game that can be seen on FS one. Braves

2080
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 7: batting in the bottom of the ninth eight innings, twelve strikeouts,

2081
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 7: three hits allowed for Philly starter Zach Wheeler, who did

2082
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 7: a great job on the bump.

2083
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:34,839
Speaker 2: Finals.

2084
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 7: We did see the Padres fall short of the Yankees

2085
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 7: and ten innings three to two at Yankee Stadium, and

2086
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 7: the Blue Jays coming up short against the Twins nine

2087
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 7: to seven in a game that featured seven, yes, seven

2088
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 7: home runs and lastly, guys, the third round of the

2089
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 7: Trashwap Challenge is all but over. Adam Shank and let

2090
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,759
Speaker 7: me say this correctly, Harry Hall, both in a share

2091
01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 7: of the lead, one shot leads for both of them.

2092
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 7: Both are at ten undergoing into the final round tomorrow,

2093
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 7: and as was documented earlier in the week, Michael Block,

2094
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 7: who had that story to run tied for fifteen last

2095
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 7: week as a teaching pro the PGA Championship. The only

2096
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 7: guy to shoot over eighty in the opening round, and

2097
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 7: he had the highest score did not make the cut

2098
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 7: eighty one and seventy four. That's not going to get

2099
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 7: it done. Bucky and Steve.

2100
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 2: I like what he had to say afterwards. He said,

2101
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 2: First of it's exhausted, mentally exhausted. He came out all

2102
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 2: this fanfare for, you know, a club pro. He'd only

2103
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 2: play in twenty five PGA tournaments ever and made the

2104
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 2: cut five times. I mean, that makes sense. He's a

2105
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 2: call pro. He's not a professional golfer. But he said, yeah,

2106
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 2: the golf gods got me. It's like, okay, we're going

2107
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 2: to give you the week of your life. He said it.

2108
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm never going to have a week like

2109
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 2: this ever. Capped off with that hole in one on

2110
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 2: the air. I'm fifteen there, and I mean, I don't

2111
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 2: blame him. But he knew it was coming.

2112
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 7: You knew it was coming, especially when you're hitting a

2113
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 7: shot from the bridge in your opening round and then

2114
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,879
Speaker 7: you go three straight holes to open up your front

2115
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 7: nine your first round.

2116
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 2: Bogie bogey, bogie.

2117
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 7: It's very relatable for us that play bogey golf, so

2118
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 7: that wasn't going to cut it right.

2119
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 2: And he's not used to tournament golf where you're playing every

2120
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 2: week or something like that. I mean, just I mean,

2121
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 2: come on, I understand why they invited him because everyone

2122
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 2: was excited about him. Nothing that happened this week takes

2123
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 2: away from what he did last week. Nothing, I mean

2124
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 2: that was that was. I mean, I don't know how

2125
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 2: much of you did you get to watch this Michael

2126
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 2: Block guy, especially in that last round when he had

2127
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 2: the hole in one right, you know, landed right in

2128
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 2: the cop on fifteen. This guy's a club row forty

2129
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 2: six years old, playing with Rory McElroy, ties for fifteenth,

2130
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 2: and he earns a slot in next year's PGA Championship

2131
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 2: the automatic by finishing the top fifteen.

2132
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 3: I mean you got like that. I mean, we all

2133
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 3: can relate to those stories because.

2134
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 2: We love those stories.

2135
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 3: I mean, we love that. Everyone loves the young dog,

2136
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 3: the guy who had to scratch his way and close

2137
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 3: his way to get in and do those things. So yeah,

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01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 3: I mean it's a great it's a great story. And

2139
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 3: anytime David has an opportunity to knock down Goliath. We

2140
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,560
Speaker 3: love that part of it. So let's see if you

2141
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 3: can whip out a slingshot and makes them happen.

2142
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 2: The only part where Michael Block got a little ahead

2143
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 2: of his skis a little bit.

2144
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 6: Uh.

2145
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 2: He went on some podcasts and he talked about if

2146
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 2: I could drive the ball like Rory, because he played

2147
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 2: with Rory that final round. You know, McIlroy's getting thirty

2148
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:33,759
Speaker 2: forty yards on every drive and he goes, my short game,

2149
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 2: if I could drive it that far, I could be

2150
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:41,760
Speaker 2: right there, and it's like, okay, come on, I think

2151
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 2: that's why the golf gods got him.

2152
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 3: They're like, no, no, no, no, it's.

2153
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 2: There's a reason why that very very elite elite, a lead,

2154
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 2: a lead elite in any sport are where they are.

2155
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 2: It's that's why they're the elite, you know, And that's why.

2156
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:01,599
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great story. It was a great story,

2157
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 2: and they'll be looking forward to him next year at

2158
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 2: the PGA. But yeah, the golf guys are like, don't

2159
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 2: put yourself in that conversation. There's the reason he's Roy mcloy.

2160
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of stars, Andre Hopkins is thirty

2161
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 2: years old and it was crazy. This whole dynamic with Arizona.

2162
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 2: You know, people are saying, well, they're tanking now. I mean,

2163
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 2: they took a twenty two million dollar cap hit. It

2164
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 2: would seem like they're writing off this season. Obviously, with

2165
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray's situation, very questionable, it's understandable. But let's let's

2166
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 2: talk again about destinations. We were talking earlier about the

2167
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, but what about the Baltimore Ravens. I mean

2168
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 2: that now with their new offensive coordinator in and once

2169
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 2: again we're hearing Lamar Jackson making a lot of noise

2170
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 2: about the fact you're not going to recognize our offense.

2171
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 2: We're going to be throwing the ball a lot. I mean,

2172
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't a lot is what I mean. You know,

2173
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,679
Speaker 2: are they going to already thirty plus throws a game.

2174
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to be the right formula.

2175
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 2: But if you add a DeAndre Hopkins and the one

2176
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:13,440
Speaker 2: thing about Lamar Jackson we have seen is he is

2177
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 2: an accurate thrower, not deep but interim route. I mean,

2178
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 2: he can delivered the ball and he did it in

2179
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 2: college and he's done it at the NFL level. You've

2180
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 2: already mentioned de hop is not at that point where

2181
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 2: he's going to be that breakout star, but he's going

2182
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 2: to find space and he knows how to certainly catch

2183
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 2: the ball. What about DeAndre Hopkins added to that, ravens Arsenal,

2184
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 2: what I will.

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01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 3: Say about Lamar Jackson, having watched him up close and

2186
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 3: personal in college and watched him in the pros, having

2187
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 3: scouted him, I will say this, he is a much

2188
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 3: better thrower than people have given him credit tode because

2189
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 3: he was such a dominant runner. We always talked about

2190
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 3: what he does is he's a runner, he's a running

2191
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 3: back playing quarterback, YadA, YadA, YadA. When you watched him

2192
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 3: at Louisville, he was outstanding and he played in a

2193
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 3: pro style offense under Bobby Petrino. Lamar Jackson is at

2194
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 3: his best when he's throwing inbreaking routes that fall inside

2195
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 3: the numbers. Anything outside the numbers, the completion percentage, the accuracy,

2196
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 3: all of this stuff goes down. It has been his problem,

2197
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 3: his nemesis since he was in college. That's not his jam.

2198
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,759
Speaker 3: But if you can layer the passing tree and layer

2199
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 3: the routes where he is working over the middle or

2200
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 3: inside the numbers, he can shred you. The deep ball

2201
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 3: comes on deep posts and overs in those things, So

2202
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 3: the trick will be can Todd Munk can take all

2203
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 3: the things that Lamar Jackson does well as a passer

2204
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 3: and build an offense where you can put the pieces

2205
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 3: in place in those spots. Obj Rasha Bateman's a Flowers,

2206
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 3: you have Nelson Aguilar coming over, Isaiah Likely, Mark Andrews.

2207
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:53,679
Speaker 3: All of those guys are solid pass catchers. But can

2208
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 3: you put together an offense that allows Lamar Jackson to

2209
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 3: play comfortably? And this is going to be different because

2210
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 3: the Ravens were the army of the NFL, meaning you

2211
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 3: had to prepare for them differently to anybody else. Well,

2212
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 3: now as they make a shift towards a more traditional

2213
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 3: and conventional offense, do they lose some of the advantages

2214
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 3: that they had offensively when they had the lineup each week?

2215
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 3: All right, that's some big question.

2216
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 2: On the other side, I want to ask you about

2217
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 2: one other team and our predictions on Game six of

2218
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 2: tonight's Eastern Conference Finals between the Heat and Celtics. This

2219
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:27,639
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday.

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01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 5: I had the pitch swinging abouter Pasto Tour Tavle at

2221
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 5: field line it's gonna win it all scores well game,

2222
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:38,879
Speaker 5: Yankees win eight ten, three to two to the final,

2223
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 5: and I say.

2224
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 2: A kinder Philippa the hero with the walk off. That's

2225
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: Yankees radio apparently minus John Sterling. Chris, you're not happy

2226
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 2: about that? And what happened there? Whereas he as he

2227
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 2: on hiatus? Is he retired? Am I missing something? Or

2228
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 2: what I just checked?

2229
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 8: Andrew Marshand of the New York Post, is usually tied

2230
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 8: in on this subject, says he is still out with

2231
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 8: an illn this, but the illness was not described as serious,

2232
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 8: so that's good news. We hope to see John Sterling

2233
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 8: make a full recovery in.

2234
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 2: That didn't shock you when I told you that, not

2235
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 2: only is he not in the Baseball Hall of Fame

2236
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 2: the Ford Frick Award they give away to, you know,

2237
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 2: radio announcers every year. Is that just the goofy is

2238
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: that he never even been nominated.

2239
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 8: That has to be just because some guys just don't

2240
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 8: like his style, Like they don't like the Grande man

2241
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 8: when he talks about Curtis Granderson. They don't like the

2242
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 8: jokes about all rise the judge is in court like that.

2243
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 2: That has to be it because there's no reason why

2244
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 2: you would keep moving. Certainly one of the most recognizable

2245
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 2: voices in baseball Yankees when he's never even.

2246
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 3: Been nominated for the Hall of Fame.

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01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 2: That's crazy. By the way, that's our Progressive play of

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Speaker 2: Want to thank the crew today, Chris in now. Of course,

2253
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: we had John Ramos here a little bit earlier. Bryan Fanley.

2254
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 2: I gave him many names today, historic names in the

2255
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 2: tennis world because well, frankly, no knock on Jonas he

2256
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 2: only knows one tennis name. He uses it every time

2257
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 2: youre on Borg and I had a branch out with

2258
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 2: other names. Brandon of course, uh listening to his padres

2259
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 2: lose that game. By the way, I got a question

2260
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 2: for you, Brandon. Are you happy with the bat toss

2261
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 2: of Fernando Tatis Junior? Did it yesterday? Got booda day,

2262
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 2: blasted another home run against the Yankees.

2263
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?

2264
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 6: Oh?

2265
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

2266
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to get called out like that,

2267
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 2: shut him up. I mean that's the only that's the

2268
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 2: only thing you can do.

2269
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 3: He likes all that. He doesn't he doesn't care about

2270
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 3: the unridden rules of baseball or anything like that. Brandon

2271
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 3: loves all of that. Like he's here for all the

2272
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 3: pettiness and all that other stuff.

2273
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I want yeahs deserves all the smoke man style

2274
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 8: on him.

2275
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 3: Just all. He likes all of it. He likes his guys.

2276
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 2: Well, that's what baseball was hopping. By the way, we're

2277
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 2: broadcasting from the tire rack dot Com studios. But when

2278
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 2: they were projecting him to be the face of baseball Bucky,

2279
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 2: that's exactly what they wanted that.

2280
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I like it. Look, I like all of that.

2281
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 3: Look it was all good.

2282
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 2: Kind of back it up.

2283
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 3: It was all good to they put the crying Yeah

2284
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 3: Clayton kersher emoji on them to put that up there.

2285
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 3: That was That was it. That's when they lost me

2286
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 3: on that.

2287
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 2: All right, one other quick team talking about de hop

2288
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 2: and then we'll make our predictions on tonight's game between

2289
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 2: the Celtics and the Heat.

2290
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 3: The New York Jets.

2291
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 2: By the way, how's Aaron Rodgers right now?

2292
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 3: Ooh, look, half is a little tight? Look half tight

2293
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 3: is tight? Calf is tight. But happened happened in Ota

2294
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 3: is in mini camp. And here's the thing. You just

2295
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 3: have to be careful when you're dealing with an older

2296
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 3: player at the position. Those things happened, and because he's

2297
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 3: had calf injuries before, it's one of those things that

2298
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 3: you have to look at. And for a Jets team

2299
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 3: who have kind of put all the eggs in the

2300
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers basket, they just need to make sure that

2301
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 3: they're building a team that is a balanced team. Not

2302
01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 3: balance in terms of run pass ratio, but in terms

2303
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 3: of we need to have a team that can win

2304
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 3: with or without him. I know he has been healed

2305
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,120
Speaker 3: as the saving he's going to take us to the

2306
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 3: Promised Land, but you just need to make sure that

2307
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 3: you don't put all that on him because at this

2308
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 3: stage of his career, yes, he can pull out those

2309
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 3: magical moments, but you don't want to use him like

2310
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 3: that all seventeen games. He won't be able to last.

2311
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say he's missed very few games,

2312
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 2: although he had the one season. Obviously he missed quite

2313
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 2: a few games. All right, let's talk about tonight's matchup

2314
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 2: between the Celtics and the Heat. The Celtics have already

2315
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 2: done with only fourteen teams that ever done down three

2316
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 2: to zero in a series, and that has forced it

2317
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 2: to a game six. Out of one hundred and fifty,

2318
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 2: only fourteen times had a team down three to zero

2319
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 2: even got into a game six. Only three have gotten

2320
01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 2: to a game seven. Is this series going back to Boston?

2321
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 2: Or are the Heat celebrating an opportunity to meet matched

2322
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:54,919
Speaker 2: up with the Nuggets in the NBA Finals.

2323
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:56,960
Speaker 3: As much as I want the Heat to close it

2324
01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 3: out tonight, for some reason, I just got this feeling

2325
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 3: that this may be a seven game affair and that

2326
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 3: you win three, I win three. Now we have one

2327
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 3: game to finish it all in all the momentum desk stuff,

2328
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 3: I think the Heat went in seven, so I don't

2329
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 3: know if it's happened.

2330
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 2: So you're telling me after blowing a three to zero lead, yeah,

2331
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna go into Boston. I mean, how devastating would

2332
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 2: that be? The worst loss in Celtics history is overcoming

2333
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 2: a three to zero deficit and then losing Game seven at.

2334
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,839
Speaker 3: Home, because that's when the pressure to an eight seed.

2335
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 3: But that's when the pressure would jump back onto the

2336
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 3: Celtics because all the expectation would be if you go

2337
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 3: back to Boston, it's a done deal, it's a gamme,

2338
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 3: it's a rap, it's over. And that is when the

2339
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 3: coach will finally feel the pressure. And so I think

2340
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 3: that's that's how it plays out.

2341
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:54,400
Speaker 2: Eric Spolster said before the fourth quarter of Game four,

2342
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 2: these guys really want this one, and then they got

2343
01:59:57,680 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 2: blown out of that fourth quarter on their home I

2344
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 2: put my faith on to me the best player in

2345
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 2: the series, and with all due respect to Jason Tatum,

2346
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 2: I think Jimmy Butler is that in the game. Heat Butler.

2347
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 2: When tonight we get ready for Thursday's matchup against the Nuggets,

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