WEBVTT - Dueling Blowouts In The NBA Conference Finals

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into Heat Check with trust a quick.

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<v Speaker 2>On this episode of the Heat Check, we got a

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<v Speaker 2>big question facing the NBA. Our boss is in LA

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<v Speaker 2>both going to be swept in the conference finals. I

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<v Speaker 2>get into that, and then I deep dive into why

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Mizzula's coaching hire actually solidifies how important coaching really is,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe in a way we've actually never seen in history.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll also update you on a lot of the ongoing

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<v Speaker 2>coaching searches. Trust me, it is a confusing mess right now,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of overlap, a lot of nick nurse Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get right into it and let's drop that motherfuckering

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<v Speaker 2>beat that should be Rihanna.

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<v Speaker 3>So the topic of the day, maybe the week, probably

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<v Speaker 3>the entire offseason, if we're honest, considering how bad things

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<v Speaker 3>are right now for the Celtics is just how bad

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<v Speaker 3>of a job Joe Miszula has done coaching the Boston

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<v Speaker 3>Celtics in the postseason?

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<v Speaker 4>How bad is it?

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<v Speaker 2>The Athletic has three articles written on it, Like aren't these.

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<v Speaker 4>Writers checking in with each other?

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<v Speaker 2>Three articles on Joe Mizula being a dumpster fire in

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<v Speaker 2>the postseason as a coach. You got Bill Simmons devoting

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<v Speaker 2>many numbers of podcasts hours to it. Twitter is a

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<v Speaker 2>is just an absolute mess in the comment section on

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<v Speaker 2>how Spoe is absolutely out coaching Joe Missoula.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, though, is what nobody is talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're witnessing in this Eastern Conference Finals is to me,

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest NBA science experiment in.

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<v Speaker 4>The history of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, last year, right, ema Udoka takes over a

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<v Speaker 2>Celtics team and it only takes him about.

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<v Speaker 4>A half a season to complete. Changed the culture there.

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<v Speaker 2>As we know, emay Udoka was bearing these kids in

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<v Speaker 2>the media saying, oh, yeah, they're soft, they're not passing

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<v Speaker 2>the ball. It was a mess, and all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden things clicked in the postseason to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>they get to the finals and they lose a hard

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<v Speaker 2>fought series to the Warriors. Now you may not like

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<v Speaker 2>the drop coverage that emay Udoka played on Steph Curry, Fine, fair,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think we can all say that emay Udoka

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<v Speaker 2>is an elite coach. Then, of course emai Udoka got

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote suspended for the season. Aka got fired for

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<v Speaker 2>not being able to, I don't know, just like keep

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<v Speaker 2>it together. And he had some sexual relations with one

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<v Speaker 2>of the members of the staff, and so that, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>creates a perfect storm of circumstances we've never had in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of the NBA. A head coach who gets

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<v Speaker 2>fired after leading his team from five hundred to the

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<v Speaker 2>brink of a championship. Yes, Brad Stevens took this team

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<v Speaker 2>to the Eastern Conference Semis multiple times, but let's be real.

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<v Speaker 2>The Brad Stevens move to the GM position, it was

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<v Speaker 2>because he was not.

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<v Speaker 4>Ready and able to coach these men up.

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<v Speaker 2>This wasn't Nick Nurse getting fired after four years after

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<v Speaker 2>winning a CHIP. This was a coach everyone said was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best minds in basketball, completely change the

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<v Speaker 2>culture of Boston, and he shockingly.

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<v Speaker 4>Gets let go.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have been the Boston head coach for a

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<v Speaker 2>decade or more. And on top of that, the kicker

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<v Speaker 2>is that the Celtics didn't change their roster. This was

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<v Speaker 2>a team that they thought they were going to run

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<v Speaker 2>everything back. They ended up actually getting better, getting the

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<v Speaker 2>sixth man of the year in Malcolm Brogden, they added

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<v Speaker 2>him to the roster. So this team, this Celtics team,

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<v Speaker 2>is actually improved from last year, the one that we

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<v Speaker 2>already know is good enough to win it.

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<v Speaker 4>All I already know is good enough to go to

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<v Speaker 4>the finals, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden they get handed one of EM's assistance,

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<v Speaker 2>not some random coach that comes in and has to

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<v Speaker 2>take over a team that's already built a scheme in

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<v Speaker 2>a system. No, thirty four year old Joe Mizula was

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<v Speaker 2>there for the entire process under Ima Udoka. So now

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<v Speaker 2>we get this beautiful opportunity to compare bad for Joe Moszula, really,

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<v Speaker 2>because we.

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<v Speaker 4>Really have all of the same factors that are consistent

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<v Speaker 4>except for the coach.

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<v Speaker 2>We can compare how this team compares to last year's

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<v Speaker 2>team because they're pretty much the.

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<v Speaker 4>Same and even better in our science experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>They get to play the Miami Heat again, the team

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<v Speaker 2>that they went toe to toe with in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>last year, a team that is largely the same as

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<v Speaker 2>it was last year, only slightly worse. They're missing Tyler Hero,

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<v Speaker 2>They're missing Victor Oladipo. And by the way, Hero averaged

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<v Speaker 2>twelve four and three against the Celtics and the games

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<v Speaker 2>he played in the Eastern Conference Finals, and the Heat

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<v Speaker 2>won two of those. Oladipo came in and averaged ten,

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<v Speaker 2>three and three in all seven games. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>actually a beautiful perfect storm. The same two teams play

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<v Speaker 2>against each other in two consecutive years, two consecutive Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>Conference finals.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, and the only difference really Boston changed coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>And now the truth has come to light and the

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<v Speaker 2>world is being debunked because there are For many years

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<v Speaker 2>people have said coaching doesn't matter in the NBA at all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a star driven league. Stars do star things. No, no, people.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're seeing is the coaching matters a lot. Coaching

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<v Speaker 2>matters on every level. We have never had the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to see how stark it would be if a brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>coach left. When coaches get fired, they're usually not brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>They're usually not very good. They're usually you see their ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>Teams are bad, teams have failed, they've been disappointments. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you go to the finals and you fire

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<v Speaker 2>your coach right away. We've never seen, i mean hardly

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen an elite coach get fired like this at

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<v Speaker 2>this particular point in the juncture of his head coaching career,

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<v Speaker 2>one year in to his coaching head coaching.

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<v Speaker 4>Career, and this is what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The only reason emy Udoka isn't the coach this year

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<v Speaker 2>and for the next decade is because of the personal scandal, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had nothing to do with.

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<v Speaker 4>Coaching, so we know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, emy Udoka was masterful along the way to the finals.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you don't like what he did in.

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<v Speaker 2>The finals, but his defense, how he managed the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>The identity of the team was defense all year long,

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<v Speaker 2>ball movement, getting out and pushing the pace. And now

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<v Speaker 2>we get to see how the same team performs under

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<v Speaker 2>another highly regarded assistant coach, an assistant like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>who I should remind.

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<v Speaker 4>You worked under emy Udoka.

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<v Speaker 2>It means the great Boston NBA coaching experiment proves, beyond

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<v Speaker 2>a shadow of a doubt, how one man can change

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<v Speaker 2>the fate of a team, and more importantly, how important

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<v Speaker 2>a good coach is to a good team. Another thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's becoming very evident it is very easy for mediocre

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<v Speaker 2>coaches to paper over their flaws in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>Malcolm brog didn't discuss this, which we'll talk about in

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<v Speaker 2>just a second, but Boston easily got to hide under

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season guide because of Missoula's inability to adjust

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<v Speaker 2>when they were playing Detroit and San Antonio and teams

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<v Speaker 2>that weren't scheming and planning and preparing for them because

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<v Speaker 2>either the gap and talent was so much greater, or

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<v Speaker 2>those good teams great teams were.

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<v Speaker 4>Not really preparing for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Even in the first and second rounds of the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>Boston wasn't exactly really getting tested, and yet they were

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<v Speaker 2>still kind of not quite acing the exam. There were

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<v Speaker 2>four shore signs that shit was already.

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<v Speaker 4>Going off the rails. Lest we forget, winning two rounds

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<v Speaker 4>in the.

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<v Speaker 2>NBA Playoffs gets you exactly halfway to the championship, you

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<v Speaker 2>still have to beat good teams, elite teams coached by

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<v Speaker 2>lea coaches, and Joe Massoula is very far.

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<v Speaker 4>From an elite coach. I think we know that, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we kind of know that.

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<v Speaker 2>He might be a good coach one day, he might

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<v Speaker 2>be an elite coach another day. But asking him as

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty four year old head coach with very little

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<v Speaker 2>coaching experience and only two years experience in the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>in total, that is a bridge, folks. This guy came

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<v Speaker 2>from the main red clause. Okay, if you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what those words mean, like, I understand if.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, what is she saying?

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<v Speaker 2>This guy came from the main red clause. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where he came from, Maine. That's the G League team

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<v Speaker 2>for the Boston Celtics.

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<v Speaker 4>He came from the G League team.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where he came from. Joe Missoula got his. It's

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<v Speaker 2>basically Aaron Miles, my guy who I love. Aaron Miles

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<v Speaker 2>assistant for the Boston Celtics. He has more coaching experience

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA than Joe Missoula, head coach of the

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<v Speaker 2>G League Santa Cruz Warriors and then an assistant for

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors in their title run, and then an assistant

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<v Speaker 2>on the bench.

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<v Speaker 4>For the Boston Celtics. So listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the deal is with Joe Mazzoli

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<v Speaker 2>and why he's not very good, but I can say this,

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<v Speaker 2>the adjustments aren't there, the rotations aren't there. He blames

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<v Speaker 2>the team when he's the one at fault, and he

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<v Speaker 2>blames himself when.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the team.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't at fault for this team, going down three

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<v Speaker 2>zero in the third game, they didn't give the effort

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<v Speaker 2>that they needed.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't fault for them. Laying down and staying down.

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<v Speaker 4>The lack of effort was embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>Tatum and Brown and Smart and the others. They they

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<v Speaker 2>either need to be consistently motivated or if they aren't,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not consistently giving their full effort.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels very much like the Brad Stevens era.

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<v Speaker 2>And Missoula didn't get to coach under Popovich like Imeu did.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a college assistant who got plucked directly five

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Stevens and then went to the G League and

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<v Speaker 2>then went to the pros. So you could say, oh, Trista,

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<v Speaker 2>where were you when Boston started out eighteen and four?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, when Missoula won Coach of the Month both in

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<v Speaker 4>November and December.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that, But that was Emey's team. Missoula got,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like a good class when they get a

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<v Speaker 2>good substitute, they gave a substitute teacher. Like the bad

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<v Speaker 2>habits don't restart right away. Missoula got appointed on the

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<v Speaker 2>eve of training camp. And second of all, the more

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<v Speaker 2>that Joe Missoula put his stamp on this team, the

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<v Speaker 2>less they started to win. And once he got thrown

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<v Speaker 2>up against good coaches, the cracks could be seen Quinn

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<v Speaker 2>Snyder led a far less talented Hawks team to six

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<v Speaker 2>games in the first round. The bullet was dodged in

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<v Speaker 2>part because Trey Young played like buns in the first

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<v Speaker 2>two games. Then Joe lucked out in the coaching against

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<v Speaker 2>the Sixers with an injured Embiid and the only coach

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs keek it out coach was Doc Rivers.

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<v Speaker 2>And even still he didn't look great in this series

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<v Speaker 2>against a very underman Heat team. Was cold water on

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<v Speaker 2>him because Bolstra is just much better. He has conducted

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<v Speaker 2>a masterclass and Joel has only this to say for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe, the biggest game of the season, A game you

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<v Speaker 5>had to have, and you guys just looked completely lost

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<v Speaker 5>after the first six minutes. What exactly happened out there?

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't have him ready to play like.

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<v Speaker 5>The last forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just didn't have him ready to play. I

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<v Speaker 1>should have whatever it was, but it was the starting

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<v Speaker 1>lineup or it was an adjustment. Just I have to

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<v Speaker 1>get them in a better place ready to play. That's

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<v Speaker 1>on me.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? I just didn't have them ready

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<v Speaker 2>to play?

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<v Speaker 4>What goes in?

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<v Speaker 2>See this is investor investigator Krick and like Detective Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>it comes out like what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>What does it take to get a team ready to play?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what did you not do this last forty eight

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<v Speaker 2>hours that you've done in other forty eight hours? Like

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think you'll do now moving forward to

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<v Speaker 2>get them ready to play?

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<v Speaker 4>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a must win game? You're down two oho in

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<v Speaker 2>both of those losses, we're at home.

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<v Speaker 4>That never happens. And now let's be real. The Celtics

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<v Speaker 4>are done and as they're about to exit the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 4>players are spilling the tea like Malcolm Brogden, the tree Shaker,

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<v Speaker 4>Malcolm Brogen exposing the flaws in the culture of the

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<v Speaker 4>Boston Celtics. I am not shocked.

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<v Speaker 5>I think in these playoffs overall, I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>showing because we're playing a very disciplined, consistent, well coached team.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think in the Atlanta series, I think in

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<v Speaker 5>the Philly series, I think we got away with things

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<v Speaker 5>that now are biting us. So you know that that's

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<v Speaker 5>definitely treppling some of those things, yeah say, I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's mainly on the defensive end. You know, we haven't

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<v Speaker 5>been consistently great defensively all year long, and that was

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<v Speaker 5>the team's identity last year, and I think that slipped

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<v Speaker 5>away from us. We've had spurts where we've been great defensively,

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<v Speaker 5>but not consistently, and honestly, we've struggled in every series

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<v Speaker 5>we've played. So you know, now we're playing a team

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<v Speaker 5>that's playing, you know, as if they're the best team

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<v Speaker 5>in the.

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<v Speaker 3>League, and pass we've struggled in every round we've played

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<v Speaker 3>so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Defense was the identity of this team last year and

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<v Speaker 2>it is not the identity this year. These were all

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<v Speaker 2>issues by the way that Joe and the team have

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<v Speaker 2>denied in the postseason, and they've denied all year, but

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<v Speaker 2>they were very evident to anyone who watched them play

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<v Speaker 2>more than a game or two. Celtics insiders are now.

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<v Speaker 4>Hinting at toxic issues in the locker room. What does

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<v Speaker 4>that mean? I need to know what are what's happening

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<v Speaker 4>there that's toxic?

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the great NBA coaching experiment happening here in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>We just have never had the ability to quantify this before.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first time we've ever had the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's great because now all of the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are out there on Twitter and on the

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<v Speaker 2>social media saying that coaching doesn't matter and you can

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<v Speaker 2>just plug and play Steven Silas in the mix and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get a championship team.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's composed of championship caliber players. That is false.

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<v Speaker 2>They're playing the same team that they played last year

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<v Speaker 2>in the Eastern Conference Finals. They have the same roster,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're actually a little bit better, and they're playing

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<v Speaker 2>a team that's actually worse. Tells you exactly what you

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<v Speaker 2>need to know. Tells us hard truths. Coaching matters a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>much more than people want to admit. In the regular

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<v Speaker 2>season matters not at all. Teams that fight through adversity

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes come out stronger in the postseason, like the Heat

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<v Speaker 2>and also like I don't know Boston in twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two when he may.

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<v Speaker 4>Wuk Doka was in charge. So good job, Joe Mizula.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a very important part of history, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you the fuck later. Last time we talked about Nuggets

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<v Speaker 2>in the Lakers series, I said, don't let those national

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<v Speaker 2>figures tell you. Those pundits trick you into thinking the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers have a chance after they came back from twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and they still lost in Game one.

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<v Speaker 4>These moral victories that they're trying to claim that they

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<v Speaker 4>had are not real.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's face it, like what the national media wanted, and

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<v Speaker 2>we know this was a Boston LA Finals.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that they tried everything possible to make it happen, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>They pushed that narrative at every opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because you push a narrative doesn't mean that's the

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<v Speaker 2>outcome that we're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, Lakers lost Game one according to the national media.

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<v Speaker 4>No, the Lakers didn't really lose. They figured something out,

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<v Speaker 4>they got some kinks ironed, and now they've got Denver

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<v Speaker 4>on the ropes. Denver won Game one. No they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to Denver's actually in trouble. Denver is actually really

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<v Speaker 2>should be scared right now by what the Lakers have

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<v Speaker 2>figured out. Jokic goes insane, fills up the stat sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the stat sheet again? Thirty four, twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and fourteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Nope, when Ruy was on them though, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Went scoreless as a team and he didn't score. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're a fan of basketball, that commentary is gross.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a fan of the Heat and.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nuggets, who have been slandered along the way, they

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<v Speaker 2>only talk about the losing team is because those teams

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote move the needle as narrative national teams. That's unforgivable.

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<v Speaker 2>That is unforgivable. I get this, I know this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a Blazer fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the Portland Trailblazers with Damian Lillard go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Western Conference Finals, by the way, beating the Denver

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets with Evan Turner, Moe Harkless. I mean a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of randoms Alfa arrukamnu and As Canter and Rodney Hood,

0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Nick Stauskis, Seth Curry off the G League, Jake Lehman,

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<v Speaker 2>all playing significant minutes. I know what it is like

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<v Speaker 2>for the national media to dismiss you and to deny

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<v Speaker 2>and make it seem like you do not belong in

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation. But I personally will not fall into this trap.

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<v Speaker 2>We must give the winners their flowers. So what that

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<v Speaker 2>the Nuggets have never accomplished anything in terms of winning

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<v Speaker 2>a championship, Who cares the Nuggets may have a boring

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<v Speaker 2>name the Nuggets. They may be in a sleepy yet

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<v Speaker 2>amazing city, but they're one of the most fun teams

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<v Speaker 2>to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>In the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be real, Jamal Murray is showing up and showing out.

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<v Speaker 2>Jamal Murray is not a bubble king. He is a

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<v Speaker 2>legit superstar, a legit shot maker. He can take over

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<v Speaker 2>against anyone. I promise you, Jamal Murray will be an.

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<v Speaker 4>All Star next year.

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<v Speaker 2>I if he continues this way in this place, Joal Murray

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<v Speaker 2>All NBA next year. And we're seeing it again that

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Malone is an incredible coach and Joker. Don't sleep

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<v Speaker 2>on Joker. He can take over the the whenever the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck he wants. MPJ one of the best clus shooters

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<v Speaker 2>from deep Aaron Gordon, Swiss army knife that keeps things going.

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<v Speaker 2>And another thing that's evident as it relates to Joker,

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<v Speaker 2>like remember in the beginning of the year, when it

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<v Speaker 2>was Jokers to lose, it was he was clearly gonna

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<v Speaker 2>win his third MVP, and it was unanimous, and then

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<v Speaker 2>people started to get into the mix with the well, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the initial was right. Maybe the initial thought to

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<v Speaker 2>give him his third MVP was the correct one because

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<v Speaker 2>then people came in and they were like, well, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>if he wins three MVPs in a role, he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>in the category of Larry Bird.

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<v Speaker 4>Andy Oks never won anything uptil the level of Larry Bird,

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<v Speaker 4>So what has he done in the postseason?

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<v Speaker 1>All the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Three time MVPs have significant, significant postseason experience and success.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, okay, fine, and he's about.

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<v Speaker 2>To win a championship, like most likely the Denver Nuggets

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna win the championship, So maybe maybe we should

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<v Speaker 2>have just like laid off a Yokich.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I think they're the one seed. At

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<v Speaker 4>that time, we were saying that too, but nobody wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>To believe because Denver Nuggets haven't accomplished a goddamn thing yet.

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<v Speaker 2>It appears they are going to accomplish a lot. They

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<v Speaker 2>are going to the finals, and the heat Butler spo

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<v Speaker 2>Bam collection of sniper role players really freaking good. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of uh we'll call it adversity in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, they were the one seed last

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<v Speaker 2>year and there were one Jimmy Butler jumper away from

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<v Speaker 2>the finals.

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<v Speaker 4>So please shut up, nerds, please please to me here's

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<v Speaker 4>the bigger issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm going crazy because I think basketball commentary is.

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<v Speaker 4>Getting dumber and dumber by the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Like did you guys see Mike Greenberg legit asking if

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers should sit their starters in Game five.

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<v Speaker 4>In the second round of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>He's getting eight million dollars a year to ask these questions,

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<v Speaker 2>the dumbest questions of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>He legit said, did the Miami Heat win Game two?

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<v Speaker 4>Or did Boston Celtics just lose it? That's what he said.

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<v Speaker 4>These are Jesus Christ? Who are these people?

0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.360
<v Speaker 2>This is chat GPT taking over two thousand and five

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.800
<v Speaker 2>sports radio thought that this ship was played out.

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<v Speaker 4>It's painful. I used to love NBA Countdown and now

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<v Speaker 4>it sucks. And by the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, like does anybody does anybody like sort of see

0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.960
<v Speaker 2>or notice that Milik Andrews who took over for Rachel

0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Nichols for NBA Countdown, just like I don't know who's

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:20.719
<v Speaker 2>just gone? Like I remember pepperich Farms remembers there are

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<v Speaker 2>literally now no women on the NBA Countdown show. They

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<v Speaker 2>used to be hosted by a woman and had Malika

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<v Speaker 2>Andrews on there as commentary.

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<v Speaker 4>As well, and now from two women to zero women.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a retread goober who got carried by two

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<v Speaker 2>decades by Mike Golick and screaming a Smith who I

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 2>love and Mike Golick or uh and Mike Well who

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<v Speaker 2>I love, But like yo, we don't care about y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>No one wants to hear Mike Greenberg talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA stick to get up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm done. It's not just ESPN Ryan Rosillo, who has

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<v Speaker 4>done nothing but hate on Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>In the playoffs, the Heat beat the Bucks and the Knicks,

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<v Speaker 2>and all real Rosillo had to say was that Miami

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<v Speaker 2>was a fluke. It's like that that Simpson's meme where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like say it again, and it's.

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<v Speaker 4>The last team that Miami beat, Say it again, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Bart Simpson with the team that last got beat

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<v Speaker 2>by the Heat, and it's like, yeah, the Miami Heat

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<v Speaker 2>can't keep doing this, and they do keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 4>No one could predict this.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Rosilla said, Oh, there's nothing to learn from how

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<v Speaker 2>Miami boat this roster.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a fuke. The Celtics are better. Just dismissal, just disrespect.

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<v Speaker 4>What does this have to do. What does next year

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<v Speaker 4>have to do with this ear's Eastern Conference Finals? Nothing? Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>You wonder why Bam and Jimmy are like, no, we

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<v Speaker 2>are not shocked by this. Stop asking us these dumb

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<v Speaker 2>ass questions. Eric Spoltzer, please stop talking about these undrafted players.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are lazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care about the Lakers anymore. I love Lebron.

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<v Speaker 2>This team wildly exceeded expectations. We should have been done

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<v Speaker 2>talking about them in January. I want to talk about Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about KCP, Bruce Brown and Christian Braun,

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 2>the rookie, and Aaron Gordon and this small market team

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the funnest teams to watch in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>and the way that they are crushing the national media

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<v Speaker 2>telling us that super teams are all that matters and

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<v Speaker 2>that narratives are all that matters.

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<v Speaker 4>The Nuggets aren't underdogs. What are we talking about. They

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<v Speaker 4>were the number one seed in the West. They're the

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<v Speaker 4>third best team in the NBA. They have a two

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<v Speaker 4>time MVP on the team. They're not underdogs. They just

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<v Speaker 4>plan Denver and this narrative about Miami. Oh, it's hot

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 4>in Miami. People go to Miami and.

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 2>They party and it's too hot and the humidity bothers

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<v Speaker 2>them and there's no fans there, like, stop.

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<v Speaker 4>Being these people. These people suck.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Miami's up three zero, and ESPN is

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<v Speaker 2>still giving the Celtics a twenty six percent chances win

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 2>this series, despite that no team has ever come back

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 2>from down three to zero ever in history. The Heat

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 2>are twelve and three and play in since the Plan

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<v Speaker 2>and the playoffs this year, they have rolled six wins

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 2>in their last seven games. They are five and two

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 2>against the Celtics, including three and one at TD Garden.

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<v Speaker 2>Why does anybody think that this Celtics team, who Malcolm

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<v Speaker 2>Brogden said can't get their shit together against the Atlanta Hawks.

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<v Speaker 2>Why in a seven game series, Why do they think

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<v Speaker 2>that Boston can beat that team four times?

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<v Speaker 4>They can't.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't fit that clean, little cute narrative Boston

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<v Speaker 2>versus La does not fit Lebron coming back down three

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<v Speaker 2>to zero and the Celtics storming back in seven games.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't fucking Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not like, yes, the scriptwriters, but the saving

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<v Speaker 2>graces at the national media. Once this is all over,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have to talk about the Heat and the Nuggets,

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<v Speaker 2>but they'll probably just talk about Jimmy Butler and jok Like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just be honest, that's probably all I'll say. I'm

0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 2>not gonna listen, but at least they will be forced

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the teams that actually are winning and

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<v Speaker 2>not the teams they.

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<v Speaker 4>Desperately want to win.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've not had an off season like this in

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<v Speaker 2>a long time where there are like a bajillion good

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.360
<v Speaker 2>coaches will like pretty good coaches on the market who

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<v Speaker 2>have been fired and are also like just on the

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<v Speaker 2>market for their teams at the same time. Like you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Milwaukee, Toronto, Phoenix teams that have either been to

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<v Speaker 2>the finals or won a championship in the last four years,

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<v Speaker 2>all on the market at the same time, all have openings.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a quick look right now at the open

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<v Speaker 2>spots and talk a little bit about who's being tabbed to.

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<v Speaker 4>Fill those spots. Let's start with the Troit Detroit Pistons.

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<v Speaker 2>So Troy Weaver right now has done an exhaustive search

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<v Speaker 2>involving interviews with ten candidates.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, it is narrow to three guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Lee, the Bucks assistant who is a Bell of

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<v Speaker 2>the Ball, former Yukon coach Kevin Ollie and both of

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<v Speaker 2>whom are being interviewed.

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<v Speaker 4>A second time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Heat's assistant Chris Quinn, who will be interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>after the finals are over. Of the three, the fan

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<v Speaker 2>base might not have a clear favorite, but they are

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<v Speaker 2>very clear about who they do not want. Kevin Ollie,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, the former Yukon coach who has not coached

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<v Speaker 2>in five years, whose name hasn't been connected.

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<v Speaker 4>To one coaching opening in the NBA since twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteen, who is not interviewed by any other team and

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<v Speaker 2>is very close with Troy Weaver.

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<v Speaker 4>That is who the fans do not want.

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<v Speaker 2>The smarter decision probably is Charles Lee. He's been ready

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<v Speaker 2>to take over a team for years now. He was

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<v Speaker 2>Budenholzer's lead assistant since the Atlanta days.

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<v Speaker 4>Quinn is definitely in the mix as well.

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 2>He's been an assistant in Miami since twenty fourteen. Very

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>important hire for a Weaver, and if he doesn't start winning,

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be the one who's under scrutiny.

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<v Speaker 4>Milwaukee Bucks after firing.

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<v Speaker 2>Their championship winning coach two seasons after hoisting the trophying

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<v Speaker 2>According to WOJ, the Bucks have narrowed their search down

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<v Speaker 2>to Nick Nurse, Nick Nurse's assistant, Adrienne Griffin, and Kenny Atkinson,

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 2>current assistant for the Golden State Warriors. Here's an interesting

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>little nugget. I have been told by multiple people, three

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 2>different quote unquote sources, that Giannis does not want Nick Nurse.

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Whether that plays into things at all is not known,

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 2>but I think you have to wonder why on earth

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>the team would hire a coach that their superstar does

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>not want, even if he says he kind of like

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want them. And how damning is it If the

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Bucks hire Adrienne Griffin over the head coach that he

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 2>sat on the bench within that would be something. Another

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 2>fascinating story around the Bucks will be the one of

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Atkinson, who was hired and then quit on the

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Hornets in twenty four hours last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Great coach, really a good coach to build a team.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how he is in terms of like

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<v Speaker 2>maintaining a championship roster, but he said that the reason

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>that he stayed in Golden State was because his light

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 2>wife liked it there. So if he goes to Milwaukee,

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>m kind of tells you that was a lie. Also,

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 2>is there a potential situation where Steve Kerr moves on

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<v Speaker 2>to the front office, if Bob Myers, the current GM

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<v Speaker 2>of the Warriors, moves on, and then maybe Kenny steps

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>in as head coach. Coach for our dubs big offseason,

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Giannis is not guaranteed to stay if they can continue

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<v Speaker 2>to underperform or.

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<v Speaker 4>Steps to success along the way. Let's move on to Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>They fired Doc Rivers as you know, for losing yet

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>another closeout game, and the Sixers at this point are

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<v Speaker 2>kicking the tires on at least six candidates. Nick Nurse again,

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Manny Williams. That's interesting, Sam Cassell, Mike Budenholzer, Frank Vogel,

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>and you guessed it, Mike D'Antoni.

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<v Speaker 4>What do they all have in common.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 2>They have a lot of experience, They've got winning pedigrees,

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>except for Sam Cassell. Sam Cassell is very well liked.

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 2>He's a Sixers assistant, and I think that's why he

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>made the list. That's for the other five.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Vogel is out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's gonna I mean, he's kind of

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>given me Brett Brown vibes D'Antoni seems like a long

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>shot as well. He's seventy two years old, literally, like

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>not like a fake seventy two, you know when you say, oh,

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.239
<v Speaker 2>that person's goajillion, No, he's actually seventy two.

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<v Speaker 4>Nick Moni and Bud probably are the favorites.

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Very different coaching styles, with Harden probably going back to

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Houston or trying to. We don't even know what type

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>of team Philly has. My guess is that you wait

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 2>until the team that you have is constructed to name

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>a coach for that team. It's also possible that More

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 2>could just throw a wrench in things and look at

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>a dark horse candidate like Massia Usuria is right now

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 2>in Toronto. Speaking of Toronto, Toronto threw an ice cube

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>into everyone's tea. Today it was announced by Shams that

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the Raptors had conducted a full interview with none other

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>than Steve Nash, Yes, the same Canadian, the coach the

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Brooklyn Nets, the same guy who is also a soccer coach,

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the same guy who.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Canada's favorite son, the same.

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Nash who is handed the keys to a tesla and

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>then found out that the AI had become sentient and

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>wanted to drive it by itself, Steve Nash Messiah Ujerie

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 2>has looked at no less than twelve candidate it so far,

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>ranging from Becky Hammond, whose luster has worn off after

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>her suspension for berating Deerica Hanby for what was.

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 4>What does she do wrong?

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh, she got pregnant two years in a row, and

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 2>also looked at JJ Reddick, current ESPN personality and podcaster.

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 4>These are real.

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<v Speaker 2>Names, these are real names he's looking at. That's pretty

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 2>much the dartboard method of picking a coach. If they

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>have held a basketball in the past five years, put

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 2>him on the board, put him on the interview list.

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Seriously.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 2>The raps have also looked at a few young coaches

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 2>who could fill in and kill it in Toronto. Jordi Fernandez,

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>King assistant who took over for Mike Brown for a

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>game this year. When he won, his team celebrated like

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>they all won a ring, huge sign of love and respect.

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Charles Lee the Bell of the Ball from Milwaukee, Chris

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Quinn in Miami, Adrian Griffin again for Toronto, all.

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 4>In the running.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Kenny Atkinson is on this list. So you've got

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the same coaches on all of these

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>same lists. I think you're going to know everything that

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you want to know about the direction that this franchise

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>is heading based on who they hire. If they hire

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>a young coach without any experience, it's kind of a

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 2>will Hardy situation the ar rebuilding. If they hire an

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>experience coach, they are going to try to keep their

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 2>assets and they are going to try and win. Now,

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Phoenix Sun's head coaching search is I have no idea. Honestly,

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I've looked and looked and looked, and there's a lot

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>of names floating, but there is no definitive list.

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Matt Ishbi is probably going to hire Isaiah Thomas, isn't he?

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Like there's no list, there's no list. He's got

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>a deep pocket, He's connected in Detroit. He loves Isaiah Thomas.

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Either Isaiah Thomas is coaching this team or he's gonna

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 2>be the GM of this team. I don't think you

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>can scratch off any of out of work coaches off

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>the list right now. There's probably coaches under contract he's

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>looking at. Tyler's name has been prominently mentioned, and this

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>is a very intriguing search. He could go with assistance

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>like Jordi Fernandez or uh I don't know, like possibly

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>another coach that has worked under Sam Presti. So more

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>likely it will be a splashy and expensive higher because

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>that's what Isshbia wants to do. I would guess that

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe Nurse or Bud would be the choice in Phoenix,

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>although I don't think either one is a fit in

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>my mind. As Michael Bridge's former Phoenix Suns recently said,

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Amani Williams isn't the problem and wasn't the problem in Phoenix.

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 2>So if the coach wasn't the problem, who was? Can

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 2>another coach come in and fix it? Lots of speculation,

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>but one thing is for sure. Phoenix is facing a

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>fascinating offseason where DeAndre Ayton has mentioned in multiple trade

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>rumors to Detroit, to Dallas and to Portland a couple

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>of final points in Houston. Our man I may Udoka

0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 2>is assembling his staff. He's just brought in Royal Ivy

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 2>from the Nets as his first major hire. I think

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>he is likely to retain Rockets assistants John Lucas, the

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>second a Rockets legend, and Ma Mood abdel Fata, who's

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 2>been credited with bringing along the baby Rockets I think

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>probably Aaron Miles, who's currently assistant for the Celtics.

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:21.959
<v Speaker 4>I could see him joining him in Houston.

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>And it will probably depend on Joe Mizula's job status,

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 2>which brings me to this. We've talked a lot about

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Joe Misula this episode, but we did not ask the

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 2>question it's his job in danger. Forty eight hours ago

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I would have said no fucking way, But now even Wolje,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 2>even Brian Windhorse, is saying, well, maybe his job is

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>in danger. And the reason that every single Celtics fan

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 2>as I rate right now is just howling mad is

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Joe Mizzula. And when your fan base, who is rapid,

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 2>makes this much noise, you must listen or you risk

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 2>losing the team to your fans altogether. So as possible,

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 2>we might have another job opening very soon.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a col world out there, folks, cold world. That's

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<v Speaker 4>all the time that we after the heat check.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back Friday with an all new episode, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are now well into the conference finals.

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<v Speaker 4>May be done with one of them tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Check back on the feed for past episodes. Many episodes

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