1 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: It's March nineteenth and Aaron Rodgers still has not revealed 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: where he's headed for the twenty twenty five season, but 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: we now know where he's not landing anytime soon. We 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: will tell you the latest on the fallout for the Vikings, 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: the Steelers, and the Giants as the weight continues. Could 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: the push be getting brilliantly shoved the side in twenty 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: twenty five? The Packers proposal is now official. Will break 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: down the pros, the cons, and the chances that that 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: play right. There could be no more Hey, while Michael 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Parsons is still waiting for a record payday at a 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: time that plenty of others are getting theirs. Jerry Jones, 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: where exactly is Jerry in his checkbook? We got sixty 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: minutes here, maybe we can find him. Welcome inside with 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the Insiders alongside Judy Batista and Mike Garafol. I am 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Tom Pelissero. We've got a lot of action, folks. We've 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: still got a lot of quarterback jobs that remain up 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: for grabs. We've got draft action. Carson Swessinger, a top 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: prospect out of UCLA, is. 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: Going to be joining us in just a little bit 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: on this show. 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: But let's start out with the news of the day, 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: and of course it does have something to do with 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. As I reported this morning, the Vikings have 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: been rejecting multiple trade calls about JJ McCarthy and telling 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: other teams they are rolling with McCarthy as their quarterback. 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: That of course means that while the Vikings still plan 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: to add a veteran quarterback, they are not pursuing Aaron 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Rodgers at this time. So if Rodgers is going to 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: sign anytime soon, which certain people might be rooting for, 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: at this point, his options now focused squarely on the 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Giants. Mike, we know that Kevin O'Connell 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers have a long standing relationship. They're both 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Cali guys quarterbacks. They've known each other for fifteen years 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: since so connell was a backup quarterback in the league. 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: There was a lot of dialogue, there's a lot of 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: respect between the two. But as part of that dialogue, 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: it has been now been made clear to Aaron Rodgers 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: that this is not the direction that. 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: We are going. That then has a. 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: Ripple effect across a lot of people, including JJ McCarthy. 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Get his opportunity right now, to show he's ready for 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: this job. 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: What more do we know? 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: So it didn't happen last week, and the weekend was 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: sort of a reset and a getaway for a number 46 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: of teams and some players and some agents, and we 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: sort of reconvened on Monday and started to make calls, 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: started to feel around for when this decision from Aaron 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: Rodgers would come, and got the sense that it may 50 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: not be anytime soon, that it could be a while. 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: Now this is before this Viking's latest development time that 52 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: you put out there today. If the Vikings had said, like, yeah, dude, 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: you want to be our quarterback, he would jump at 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: the chance. But that hasn't happened, and so this is 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: still feeling like something that's going to take a while. 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 4: So get comfortable. 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: And there's no real great rush for the Giants or 58 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: the Steelers here. I mean, I would say the first 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: pressure point would probably be around the draft. Like you 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: could even go through the start of offseason workouts, that's 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: not a big deal, but right around the draft, you 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: kind of want to know who's going to be your 63 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: starting quarterback for this upcoming season. So Rogers has got 64 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: a few options here. One he can wait until the 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: Vikings maybe change their mind. He could wait for that 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: no indication that's going to happen anytime soon. He can 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 3: sign with the Giants, he can sign with the Steelers, 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: he can retire, or he can just wait for whatever. 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: You know. 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: See what happens in trading camp during the preseason. Somebody 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: gets hurt, needs a quarterback. Hey here, I am. He 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: has given no indication as to which of those options 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: he's got ranked in which ordered Judy, But the Steelers 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: and the Giants remaining patient here while they wait for 75 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: an answer. 76 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, from the Viking side, this always 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 5: seemed like the most likely and the most logical conclusion 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 5: that they would go forward with JJ McCarthy. He's the 79 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 5: first round. They liked him, they liked what they saw 80 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 5: before he got hurt. Time to get him on the field, 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: So that part makes a lot of sense. What it 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 5: means for Aaron Rodgers and all of the other teams 83 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: is more waiting. 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: Again. 85 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: Nothing that happens with the Vikings short of the Vikings saying, hey, 86 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 5: come and be our starting quarterback, which doesn't appear to 87 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 5: be happening. Nothing short of that really affects Aaron Rodgers 88 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 5: timeline at all. If he wants to think about this, 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 5: let it play out a little more, see if any 90 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 5: more suitors emerge, see if anybody gets hurt. Even if 91 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 5: he goes past the draft, we are all looking at 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 5: the draft as the tipping point, because of course teams 93 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 5: would want to know what their quarterback plans are going 94 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 5: into the draft. Yeah, but if he doesn't like his options, 95 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 5: I mean, he can wait around and see if somebody 96 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 5: gets hurt in training camp. I'm reminded that when Brett 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 5: Farv went to the Vikings unretired and went to the Vikings, I. 98 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: Believe that did not happen until August. 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: If I remember that was a wild summer, I believe 100 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 5: that did not happen until August. So, you know, I 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: really really hope we're not still talking about this in August. 102 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 4: But there's just no. 103 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 5: Deadline that creates pressure on Aaron Rodgers unless the teams 104 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 5: say to him, listen, we've got to have an answer, 105 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 5: and that certainly doesn't appear to be on the horizon. 106 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: August eighteenth, Judy, That was the day that Brett Farr 107 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: finally signed. In two thousand and nine, some of us 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: were working at the Green Bay presscazet and commuting to 109 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: cover that in man Cato, Minnesota, before he actually showed 110 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: up in Minnesota. I will say this too for JJ McCarthy, 111 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: because a lot of this does revolve around him here. 112 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: He missed all last season after meniscus surgery. There's not 113 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: a lot of precedent for a first round pick missing 114 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: an entire year of reps, forget starting missing the entire 115 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: year of practice reps here. But everything I've been told 116 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: is the knee is a non issue at this point. 117 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: He's recovered well, he's up to two or seven tutor 118 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: nine pounds. He's put that weight back on here, he's 119 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: working out the facility and he looks great. That went 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: a four time NFL MVP quarterback calls and says, hey, 121 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: I'd like to play for you. 122 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: It won't cost you much. 123 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: You'd be negligent in your duty not to at least 124 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: sit there think through it. The Vikings have done that. 125 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: They're planned right now rolling forward with JJ McCarthy. As 126 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, well, they've had a lot of different 127 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: things on their minds. There has been dialogue between Aaron 128 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Rodgers and various members of the organization. They've looked at veterans, 129 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: they signed Mason Rudolph and end up close look at 130 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: that guy, Jalen Milroe and Alabama Pro day today. In fact, 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, gm Omar Khan as well as their quarterbacks 132 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: coach Tom Arth, I'm told, had dinner last night with 133 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe ahead of Alabama's Pro Day, one of the 134 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: many quarterbacks vying for all those slots that are going 135 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: to come during draft week, behind the probable first pick, 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: which of course is cam Ward. As you take a 137 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: look at Bucky Brook's rankings, he's staying steadfast, which Shader 138 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: Sanders ahead of cam Ward as the top quarterback. Again, 139 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: every board is going to be different across the NFL. 140 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: You see Jalen Milroe right there, slotting in at fourth. 141 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: Some people have compared Jalen Milroe to another former Alabama quarterback, 142 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, who's made a name for a lot of things, 143 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: been to a couple of Super Bowls, won a Super 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. Let's be honest, your average fans' is like, oh, 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: that's the guy they pushes, but when they need the yard, yes, 146 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: that's him. He does that very very well. It helps 147 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: to be an Olympic caliber powerlifter like Jalen Hurts to 148 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: make that play go, which is why the Eagles have 149 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: executed better than anybody else and also why there have 150 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: been calls in various areas judy to ban that play. 151 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Not because specifically the Eagles are this good at it, 152 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: but there have been safety concerns that have been raised. 153 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: There were concerns about that just doesn't look like a 154 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: football play. Now, for the first time, the Packers have 155 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: put up the paper. We've got a proposal, still got 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: to be voted on. It still us to pass to 157 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: ban the tush push. 158 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 5: What do we think, Well, first of all, this proposal 159 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 5: is coming from the team, not from the competition committee. 160 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 5: We will get competition committee proposals few days. But this 161 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 5: is a proposal that we knew was coming from back 162 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 5: in the combine, and we told you this back in 163 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 5: the combine. Well, it looks like a play that would 164 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: be dangerous. There is simply no injury data on this play. 165 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: There haven't knock on wood, there haven't been injuries associated 166 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 5: with this play, as crazy as that seems. And so 167 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 5: usually when you see big rules changes get pushed in 168 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: the NFL, it gets a push because of injury situations. 169 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: Well, that's not the case here. 170 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 5: So this is basically a proposal to ban a play 171 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: based on a it doesn't really look like a football play. 172 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 5: There's some people in the NFL who feel that way, 173 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 5: and b it looks like it should be dangerous, so 174 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 5: shouldn't we ban it? But again, there's no injury data 175 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 5: to back it up. Certainly, coming out of the combine 176 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 5: in Indianapolis, I did not get the sense that there 177 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 5: was a ton of support for banning the play. There 178 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 5: are a lot of coaches, frankly, who say, listen, we 179 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: just got to learn how to stop it. That's on 180 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 5: everybody else. That's not the Philadelphi. The Eagles fault that 181 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: they're so. 182 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: Good at this. 183 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: We will see if things change when they get together 184 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 5: in a meeting room. 185 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: One thing to. 186 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 5: Remember it is owners who vote on rules changes, not coaches. 187 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: You know why there's not enough support Judy to ban 188 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: the play because the number of teams needed to bote 189 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: They all run the play themselves too as well. Now 190 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: the Eagles are seemingly the best at it, and that 191 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 3: seems to frustrate a number of people. You know where 192 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: I stand on this. We had a debate at the combine, 193 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: and it's a good thing Ian's not here because I 194 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: would eat his lunch or dinner. 195 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: It's seven or nine on. 196 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: The East Coast. 197 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: Again in this debate, because the doesn't look like a 198 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: football play. Stuff doesn't hold up the injury stuff, which 199 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: is you know, that's an objective thing. You can look 200 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: at the numbers and Nick Sirianni said, we've run the 201 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: play more than anybody. 202 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: We haven't had an. 203 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: Injury on it. 204 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: There was one injury in the Super Bowl where Chris 205 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 3: Jones was going sideways while twenty one other people in 206 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: the field were going forward and it resulted in a 207 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: neck injury. 208 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: So don't do that. I understand why you try. 209 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 3: It, but don't do that moving forward, and maybe you 210 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: won't get your guys hurt. 211 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: That's kind of where it stands. 212 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 213 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: I don't sense the momentum. I think it's going to 214 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: be discussed at the league meeting. I don't sense that 215 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: this play is going to be banned heading into twenty 216 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: twenty five. 217 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: But we'll say. 218 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: I talked to a defensive coordinator at the combine who 219 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: was saying the way that you would have to craft 220 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: this rule. If you were going to outlaw it was 221 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: you had to introduce a time element. In other words, 222 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to ban every time an offensive lineman 223 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: runs ten yards down the field and shoves somebody forward. 224 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: You have to figure out, Okay, how do you codify 225 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: that to say, this is how to ban the Thwschwitsch. Well, 226 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: if you look at the rule, it says immediately at 227 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: the snap, push or throw his body against a teammate. 228 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: That's the way the Packers wrote the rule. As Judy said, 229 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: the competition committee proposals historically have a much higher hit 230 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: rate in terms of actually being passed, but the fact 231 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: the team proposes it usually means there's enough conversation here. 232 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: Does it even get to a vote. We'll find out 233 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: at the league meeting, which is just over a week away. 234 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: There was also an interesting by law change proposed by 235 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions earlier today, and something we've talked about 236 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: for a long time, which is the idea of having 237 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: teams that are wild cards and have better records than 238 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: division winners in the same conference, allowing them to be 239 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: seated solely by record, which in the case of that 240 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Rams Vikings game that ended up being played in Arizona 241 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: because of the wildfires wasn't truly a home field advantage, 242 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: but the Vikings would have ended up with a higher 243 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: seed and not been knocked all the way down to 244 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: the number five seed and a wild card after losing 245 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: their Week eighteen game against the Lions. It is, Mike, 246 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: a very interesting proposal. It's also not something that's had 247 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: a great deal of support because owners who like to 248 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: get the extra checks to come to hosting a playoff 249 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: game for one thing, think hey, you win the division, 250 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: you should get the playoff game. But it is something 251 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: that certainly has been discussed in the past. 252 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 253 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, listen, you may be that owner of 254 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: a team that would then get a home game because 255 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: of it. So it kind of get a give and 256 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: take on that one. But there are a lot of 257 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: traditionalists traditionalists around the league, in front offices, in ownership positions. 258 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: I know John Mara with the Giants has been a 259 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: launch advocate of you win the division, you should get 260 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: the seating that comes with it, and the home game 261 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: as well, and I know he's got a lot of 262 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: other folks who think that way. This is how the 263 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: playoffs were seated in twenty twenty four, and I know 264 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: we've got a shot of what NFL research provided us. 265 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: Here you go, this is how it would be. 266 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: So it would have been Eagles, Rams, Vikings, Buccaneers and 267 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: Commanders Packers as the wild card games would have juggled them. 268 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: The only thing that would have changed in the AFC 269 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: is that the Chargers would have hosted the Texans instead 270 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: of vice versa. Would have been the same there. I 271 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: don't just like the touch push thing. I don't sense 272 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: the momentum here for this one. I know there are 273 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: a lot of folks that like the spirit of the 274 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: idea from the Lions, which it's kind of weird too 275 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: that the Lions are proposing this in a year where 276 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: their division rivals were the ones that got hosed because 277 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: of the seating. But I don't think that there's enough 278 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: support right now for this one. Is this something that 279 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: we continue to discuss down the line and maybe get 280 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: it someday. Perhaps I just don't think we're there yet, Judy. 281 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: I would be shocked if this past. 282 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 5: I've covered the NFL for twenty five years, and every 283 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 5: few years this pops up, and the answer is the same. 284 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 5: They do not want to devalue winning the division because 285 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 5: that would devalue division games, and that devalues the rivalries 286 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 5: that are within divisions. They don't want to do that 287 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 5: for obvious reasons. They like that competitiveness within the division, 288 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 5: and they feel that taking away a home game then 289 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 5: penalizes you, doesn't give you the reward for winning the 290 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 5: division that you deserve a reward for winning the division. 291 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: Their response to all of. 292 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: This is, you want to host a home game, go 293 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 5: win the division. Don't worry about the record, Go win 294 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 5: your division. That's the answer it's always been. I would 295 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 5: be surprised if you could get twenty four owners to 296 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 5: vote to change this. This has been a long held 297 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 5: feeling in the NFL among owners. John Marra, as you mentioned, 298 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 5: is one of them, but there are many many others 299 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: who feel the reward for winning a division is to 300 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 5: host a home game. You do not want to give 301 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 5: away those home games. That's a reward and you deserve it. 302 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: Plus see. 303 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: If you took that away, how would the Texans host 304 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: their annual three thirty Eastern Saturday Wildcard playoff games. Some 305 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: traditions just aren't meant to be broken. Carson Swsenger coming 306 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: into number five in Bucky Brook's top five linebacker prospects. 307 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: Right there, one of the many names you could hear 308 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: included the linebacker position called in the early stages of 309 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, with kicks off thirty six weeks from 310 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: tonight in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Carson now kind enough to 311 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: give us a little bit of time here on the 312 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Insiders with me, Tom Pellicero and Brian Baldier. Carson, you're 313 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: in this final countdown, man, it's a little over five 314 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: weeks away until draft weekend. Just take me inside what 315 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: it's like to be you, the way that you're preparing, 316 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: and just kind of where your headspace is at right now. 317 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think like you said, I mean, it's closing in, 318 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 6: but it's also exciting, of course. I mean this is 319 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 6: something I've worked for my whole life, and you know, 320 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 6: it's it's great to see how everything's working out. 321 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: So really just through this. 322 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 6: Whole process, just trying to take in every moment and 323 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 6: and really enjoy the process. 324 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: Parson, you really popped this year. 325 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 7: You had a great season, and I thought one of 326 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 7: the reasons, and it came under a lot of there's 327 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 7: traditionalists didn't like U c L. A and USC going 328 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 7: to the Big Ten. But I'm watching you against Penn 329 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 7: State in Nebraska and Iowa. I thought it was a 330 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 7: big deal for you going into and playing those schools, 331 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 7: playing some of those some of. 332 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: Those caliber programs. 333 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 7: I thought it really helped bring the best out of 334 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 7: your fifteen tackles against Penn State. 335 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: What did you think going into the Big Ten this year? 336 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a lot of talk about all 337 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 6: the different conferences and the difference, But the way I 338 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 6: was I was viewing it, at the end of the day, 339 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 6: you're still going in and playing football, and especially when 340 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 6: you're playing the linebacker position. There's talk about which which 341 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 6: conference is the most physical, which you know, heavier passes, 342 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 6: things like that, But at the end of the day, 343 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 6: you're playing linebacker, you're expecting a physical game. So you know, 344 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 6: definitely a lot more run heavy in the Big Ten 345 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 6: as opposed to the Pac twelve. But the goal was 346 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 6: just to go out there, play a physical brand of football, 347 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 6: play fast, and you. 348 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: Know, go out there and make plays. 349 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Every NFL scout right now is body typing guys and 350 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: making comparisons and their reports, trying to figure out, Okay, 351 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: what historic player do I compare Carson Schwestinger to in 352 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: your mind, is there a player or players to your 353 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: game resembles or at least that you try to kind 354 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: of model some things and take from their games put 355 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: into yours. 356 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 6: Definitely, I think, you know, maybe maybe too much of 357 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 6: a classic answer, but the go to, especially for a 358 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 6: linebacker like me, is Luke Keikley would be one of 359 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 6: the first ones I talked about just just his IQ 360 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: of the game, but on top of that, the physicality 361 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 6: and the flip that's the switch that flips when he 362 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 6: gets on gets on the field is something that I 363 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 6: try and emulate. And then along with that you got 364 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 6: other guys like Milano and Fred Warner and Roquan who 365 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 6: are just always around the ball. And that's one of 366 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 6: the things, you know, I try and be, regardless of 367 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 6: what the play is, you know, finish finished by the ball, 368 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 6: and good things happen when when you're around the ball. 369 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: Parson, you just. 370 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 7: Mentioned Keith Lee, Fred Warner, roquand pretty I mean the 371 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 7: elite of the elites. Okay, but it's interesting because I 372 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 7: always think the greatest compliment you can give to a 373 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 7: linebacker is he finds the football. And when I watch 374 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 7: your tape. That's what I see. I see a guy 375 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 7: that knows how to find the football. Is it film study? 376 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 7: Is it instinct for you? Is it what is it 377 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 7: about you that no matter what the formation, prestat motion, 378 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 7: you can find the football. 379 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of everything. 380 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 6: I mean, I've been playing since playing football since I 381 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 6: was three years old. 382 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: That's just a natural feeling you have, and it's been something. 383 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 6: I mean, it doesn't matter or what sport I'm playing, 384 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 6: I'm somehow always around the ball. It's something that's that's 385 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 6: been a part of me since I was a kid. 386 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 6: And then the other half is that film study where 387 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 6: you're prepared. You know almost where the ball is going 388 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: before they even snap the ball, which definitely helps put 389 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 6: you in the right places. And then the last bit 390 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 6: of it is just you got to want to get 391 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 6: to the ball. And that's just when you're on the 392 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 6: field one hundred percent every play until the whistle's going, 393 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 6: and that's going to get you in the right spot 394 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 6: a lot of the time. 395 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: To Carson, you're doing, I believe your own pro day workout. 396 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: It's coming up here in a couple of weeks. Whether 397 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: it's a how you're going to time or what you 398 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: want to show. What are the things that are going 399 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: to jump out to the people who are at that 400 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: pro day. 401 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 6: I think what I'm really looking to show is just 402 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 6: the athleticism. Didn't really have the chance to show it 403 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 6: at the carbine and pro Day, but that's really the 404 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 6: goal here is to go out there run fast and 405 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 6: show the short area speed as well with the shuttles, 406 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 6: and I was able to get a jump at the 407 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 6: combine to show a little bit of it, but you know, 408 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 6: go out there do the broad as well, and then 409 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 6: and then just move well out throughout any position drills 410 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 6: we're planning on doing as well. 411 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 7: Carson, I rounded up your vertical jump to forty inches 412 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 7: just so you know. I just gave you a forty 413 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 7: all right, It sounds a little better than thirty nine 414 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 7: and a half. 415 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: What was up? What was tell me inside. 416 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 7: Some of the discussions you had at the combine with teams, 417 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 7: what they wanted to find out about you? Was it 418 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 7: just you know what this formation is? Because I always 419 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 7: feel like if you know the formation, you know the play, 420 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 7: and it's just it just sort of becomes like that 421 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 7: after a while. 422 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: What did they want to pull out of you in 423 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: some of these meetings with you. 424 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's pretty a pretty wide range of what 425 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 6: they're asking, you know. Some of it's just you know, 426 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 6: personality questions and how you grew up. But when they 427 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 6: really get in the ball, it's it's knowing the football 428 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 6: IQ aspects, the recall on on what we were running 429 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 6: during during the year and and how those plays worked out. 430 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 6: A lot of times they'll pull up pull up film 431 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 6: from the year and just want you to explain, you know, 432 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 6: what the call is and what you're doing. And you know, 433 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 6: even add into the that week who we're playing. If 434 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 6: we're playing Penn State, you know the look they were 435 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 6: giving us and what we were expecting. So really a 436 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 6: lot of that. 437 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: Carson last thing before I let you go here. I'm 438 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: sure you've seen a lot of interesting stuff in this interview, 439 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: but I've mainly just been fixated on sterrnigger hair. That 440 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: is some significant flow you've got going, presumably after a 441 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: long day where you've been working out. Is there are 442 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: you using like a horse shampoo? Can you give it 443 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: the secret to having that type of flow at this 444 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: hour of the day. 445 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 6: I will say the shampoo is I'm pretty particular about 446 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 6: I don't do too much else, but I only use 447 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 6: a Mica shampoo and conditioner, which is a pretty rare brand. 448 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 6: I gotta go and walk into an alta. I can't 449 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 6: get it at Targets, so you know, I'm walking into 450 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 6: an alta. There's no other guys in there. But you know, 451 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 6: sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. 452 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: And you got an endorsement coming your way. We'll make 453 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: sure that they get that clip. Carson, best the luck 454 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: man over these next thirty six days, hope to hear 455 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: your name called very early in Greeny, Green Bay. We 456 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 457 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Thanks Carson. 458 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: Carson Schwestinger one of the many names you will here 459 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: called during the NFL Draft, presented by Bud Light. It's 460 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: coming to Green Bay and it's your chance to witness 461 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: the future of the game for free. Experience the history 462 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: of Lambofield, see the Vince Lombardi Trophy and Super Bowl rings, 463 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: and meet NFL players and legends. The NFL Draft starts 464 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: April twenty fourth in Green Bay. Register for free entry 465 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com slash Draft Access Today. Michael 466 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Parsons did not have to wait very long to hear 467 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: his name called Once upon a time has had to 468 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: wait a while to hear his name called up to 469 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: get that record breaking extension that he anticipates getting at 470 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: some point. What's the hold up and where do those 471 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: negotiations go from here? We'll discuss that and a lot 472 00:21:52,800 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: more as the Insiders rolls on. The bar has been 473 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: set for highest paid non quarterback in the NFL again, 474 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: first Miles Garrett than Jamar Chase at a little over 475 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: forty million dollars per year, numbers that are relevant to 476 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, although, as our Jane Slater reported earlier today, 477 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: no meaningful contract talks yet between the Cowboys and their 478 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: star pass rusher about a new deal. Welcome back to 479 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: the Insiders, Tom Pillicero, Judy Batista, and Mike Girafolo. Mike, 480 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: Nothing happens quickly in Dallas, particularly not the record type 481 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: contract extensions. So to that end, we're kind of following 482 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: history here. Where do we stand? 483 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: Max Cosby Miles Garrett, Although the Garrett one, we thought 484 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 3: maybe that might take a while, but Max, rely, Miles Garrett, TJ. 485 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: Watt, MICHAEH. 486 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: Parsons, The four pass rushers that we expected to reset 487 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: the market here in this off season. Here and all along, 488 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: I had been hearing people say, well, Mike is gonna 489 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: go last, right, like he's the young guy, uh, the 490 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: one that can really hit it big, the one like 491 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: he wants to see everybody else, all the veterans kind 492 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: of get their money, and then boom, there's our aiming 493 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 3: point for where we want to be when we really 494 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: get into these negotiations. I agree with Jane, does not 495 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: appear that there have been any meaningful conversations regarding Micah 496 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: Parsons and the Cowboys right now. So this is something 497 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: I sort of had earmark for closer to the start 498 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: of the regular season. It's the start of training camp 499 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 3: and then it's the start of the regular season. Those 500 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: are the two mile posts when it comes to these deals, 501 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: because you don't want to necessarily practice without that deal 502 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: in place, and then at that point, you don't want 503 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: to necessarily play without the deal in place. That's kind 504 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: of the timeline that I've been looking for on this one. 505 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 5: I feel like the theme of this offseason has been 506 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 5: teams that get ahead of the contracts and get ahead 507 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 5: of the market, and teams that wait, and we've seen all. 508 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 5: We've seen both. We saw Jamar Chase finally get done. 509 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 5: Good for him, Good for the Bengals to get done. 510 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 5: Of course, if they had gotten it done last year, 511 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 5: they probably would not have had to spend nearly as 512 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 5: much as they had to spend this year. The situation 513 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 5: with Michael Parsons recalls what happened last off season when 514 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 5: the Cowboys were trying to get some big contract extensions 515 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 5: done too, and they waited and waited. 516 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: That's fine. 517 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: The market kept going up, and then we got ever 518 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: so close to. 519 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: The season starting. 520 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: I mean literally, Dak Prescott's deal got done on the 521 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 5: morning of the season opener. You do wonder how much 522 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 5: of a toll that takes on the players in terms 523 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: of their concentration and their focus, and you certainly know 524 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 5: how much it takes in terms of dollars for the 525 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 5: teams that can't get them done early. Michael Parsons deserves 526 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 5: to be the next person who is the highest paid 527 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 5: non quarterback, so you can't blame him for wanting to wait. 528 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 5: Of course, he wants to go last. But if you're 529 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys, you are just watching the market go up, 530 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 5: up and up just like you did last offseason. It's 531 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 5: a very curious way to go about doing business for 532 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys. 533 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: And I would also go back to what we reported 534 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: on Super Bowl Sunday, which is that there have been 535 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: real internal conversations about does it make sense to pay 536 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: another player when you already got back at the top 537 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: CD near the top, and now have another player at 538 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: the top of the market, Or to potentially trade my 539 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: co caparsions for a boatload of picks and inject your 540 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: roster with a lot of other help at different positions here, 541 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: So a lot of different moving parts still over the 542 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: next four or five Cowboys fans hope not six. 543 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: Months, because that gets us into the. 544 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: Regular season here. 545 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Aiden Hutchinson also eligible for 546 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: an extension. He's got to be loving everything that he's 547 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: seeing at this point. 548 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: Mike, Yes, Tom, thank you very much. You can't win 549 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 3: championships in the offseason when it comes to free agency. 550 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 4: That might be true, but you know what you can do. 551 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: You can move up the nfl dot Com post free 552 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: agency power rankings. And that's what the Bears did, fortifying 553 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 3: their offensive line and making moves elsewhere along the roster 554 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: to help klebwilliam and to also try to fortify that 555 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 3: defense for Ben Johnson in his first year as the 556 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: coach of the Bears, moved up to sixteen from what 557 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: I am told, Jeffrey Chedia joining Brian Baldinger and myself 558 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: here to discuss his favorite Offsee this article is not 559 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: even up yet, right, this is a preview. I get 560 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: my daughter's sentences today for school. One of the words 561 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 3: was preview. See Carvin, this is a preview. No stay 562 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: up there, stay up there, But we go to preview 563 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: your article, Jeffrey on your favorite offseason moves that. 564 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: We're going to start with. 565 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: Which one is your favorite of the offseason moves? 566 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 8: He just saw Chicago Bears, and I'll start there because 567 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 8: it's a two pronged favorite move here with the hiring 568 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 8: of Ben Johnson and the rebuilding of that offensive line. Mike, 569 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 8: I love the Ben Johnson higher. I thought he was 570 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 8: the best coaching candidate of the offseason. He comes in, 571 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 8: he can fix that offense, get Caleb Williams going it 572 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 8: was a home run for the Bears and getting him, 573 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 8: but then going out and rebuilding that offensive line, and 574 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 8: we know what that offensive line meant to Ben Johnson's 575 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 8: offense in Detroit. It's going to allow him to avoid 576 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 8: the sack problems they had last year with Caleb Williams 577 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 8: getting sacked sixty eight times. It's going to allow his 578 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 8: offense to use those skilled players they got in the 579 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 8: offseason in Baldy. This team is on the rise for 580 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 8: a reason. 581 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 7: I agree, Jeff, and I think it's you know, the 582 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 7: number one story right now going to the offseason, much 583 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 7: like you're writing in your preview. But you know, honestly, 584 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 7: Ben Johnson can't do any of the things he wants 585 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 7: to do out of his playbook and the concepts and 586 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 7: the ideas, and you know the playmaking ability of some 587 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 7: of his talent without a good offensive line. So to 588 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 7: get that, at least on paper fixed right now, where 589 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 7: Caleb Williams can stand back there for three seconds, If 590 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 7: you can get three seconds to diagnose what the defense 591 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 7: is doing, it would go with the ball. I mean, 592 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 7: I think that's where it starts. Detroit had one of 593 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 7: the top three offense lines. Well, Ben Johnson has been there. 594 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 7: It has been a big part of why they were 595 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 7: the number one offense in football last year and why 596 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 7: they scored so many points. So I think to get 597 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 7: that fix, to get Ben in now, I think they 598 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 7: can start to inject the ideas that Ben Johnson has 599 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 7: had and one of the reasons why he's been a 600 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 7: leading coaching candidate for the last two seasons. 601 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: One of the most intriguing moves Jonah Jackson, a big 602 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 3: free agent for the Rams last year. The Bears trade 603 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: for him, give him extra year on his deal and 604 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 3: seven million fully guaranteed next season added on as well. 605 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 3: So a lot of faith in Jackson, who played with 606 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson up there in Detroit. Moving on, we're going 607 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: to talk about the defensive side of the ball on 608 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 3: this one because I know you like something that the 609 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: Eagles did that they don't usually do, and that's pay 610 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 3: a linebacker. 611 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 8: And that's why I love it, Mike. I love that 612 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 8: they went out and they paid Zach Bond, a player 613 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 8: who came in Unharro did last season a rotational pass 614 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 8: rush in New Orleans, and Big Fangiel takes this guy 615 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 8: and turns him into an all Pro linebacker. He was 616 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 8: an essential part of the defense that was number one 617 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 8: in the league all year. And when you think about 618 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 8: the idea of the Eagles breaking trends. It did it 619 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 8: last year and going out and putting a lot of 620 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 8: money in sat Kwon Buckley's pocket. They didn't usually pay 621 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 8: running backs to go and do this for Zach. Bond 622 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 8: telled me that they really believe in Well, we're going 623 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 8: to pay our stars. But two when I was to 624 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 8: be behold into what we've done in the past, we're 625 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 8: going to do what's best for our team, and keeping 626 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 8: Zach Bond here baldy is what's best for the Eagles. 627 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: Well, the fact is Jeff, they could not deny his production. 628 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: He was lead. I thought he was the defensive player 629 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: of the year. 630 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 7: No, you know nothing against Patrick Certan and winning the award, 631 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 7: But if you count the postseason twenty one games in all, 632 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 7: he had one hundred and eighty four tackles, six fours fumbles, 633 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 7: and he showed up every week and he was the 634 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 7: undisputed leader of that defense. 635 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: And it was technically and fundamentally sound. Real quick. 636 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 7: I remember when Vic Fangio was the linebacker coaching the 637 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 7: Dome Patrol in New Orleans, you know, with Sam Mills 638 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 7: and Patrick Swelling and Ricky Jackson, and I felt like 639 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 7: this was a guy that could have been the leader 640 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 7: of the Dome Patrol. He was of the Eagles. They 641 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 7: were the best defensive football last year and the big 642 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 7: reason why the play of Zach Bond. 643 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: Zack b went from a one year, three point five 644 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: million dollar deal to a three year deal averaging seventeen 645 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: million dollars per year. We should all be so lucky 646 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: as to get those kinds of raises. But you know, 647 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: Wat Jeffrey today, to make your case for a race 648 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: by giving us a third off season move that you. 649 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 8: Like, I'll go with Jonathan Allen signing with the Minnesota Vikings. 650 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 8: And the Vikings have been looking forward interior year presidence 651 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 8: on their defensive line for a long time, maybe going 652 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 8: back to the days of Sheldon Richardson, and they got 653 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 8: it with this guy. You know, I know, Jonathan Allen's 654 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 8: at thirty years old, but he's been to two Pro Bowls. 655 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 8: He's had sixteen and a half sacks in those two 656 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 8: years when he was a Pro Bowl player, and he's 657 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 8: been a high pressure guy the last six years of 658 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 8: his career. And so you add him to a defense 659 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 8: that brought in Jonathan Gernard last season, and Andrew Van 660 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 8: Gink was able to come off the edge of great pressure. 661 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: Baldy. 662 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 8: This defense is going to be a record group for 663 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 8: Brian Flores's coming season. 664 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 7: Well, he was already you know, at the top of 665 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 7: the charts last year, jeff in takeaways, and you know, 666 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 7: they kept a lot of their personnel that was responsible 667 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 7: for it, but you know, a lot of it was, 668 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 7: you know, these third down defenses that Flores would put 669 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 7: up there, and it's kind of gimmicky a little bit, 670 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 7: who's coming, who's not coming. I think if they want 671 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 7: to just play base defense right now with a Jonathan 672 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 7: Allen go with you know, a Javon Hargrave who also 673 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 7: they signed in free agency to go with Van Kako 674 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 7: and Grenard, Like, I feel like if they want to 675 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 7: just play based defense and rush forward the way the 676 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 7: Eagles did in the Super Bowl this year and get 677 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 7: home with four, they can do that if they want. 678 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: If they want to. 679 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 7: Throw a bunch of junk at the line of scrimmage 680 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 7: and play you know, blit zero behind it, they still 681 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 7: have that option. But I think they can play a 682 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 7: lot more traditional styles of defense now that they've fixed 683 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 7: that defense attack the position. 684 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: So congratulates two O the Vikings. 685 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: Vikings went to beef up on that defensive line. Did 686 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: that with Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave also on the 687 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: offensive side as well. NFL dot Com backslash first read 688 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: or Chidi I think both will take you where you 689 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: want to go. When this article gets posted. What time tomorrow, 690 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. Log on at twelve oh one am. 691 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 3: Keep eating Refresh all day long until you find it. 692 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jeffrey Chidiya. 693 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 5: It's been quite an off season for Justin Field to here. 694 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 5: He is in Morocco. He was there on a vacation. 695 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 5: I don't know, but a bunch of other football players. 696 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 5: I believe he was there when the other good part 697 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 5: of his off season began. He got signed by the 698 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 5: New York Jets to be their starting quarterback. There he 699 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 5: is arriving at the Jets facility in Florim Park, which 700 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 5: I like. Florm Park. It's definitely not Morocco. From the desert. 701 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 5: Let's take you to the deep sea, where our man 702 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 5: around the World, Brian Baldinger was today. Baldy was diving. 703 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 5: I heard him talk about how great the visibility was, 704 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 5: and frankly, these pictures definitely show that amazing visibility. Amazing 705 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 5: GoPro by Brian Baldinger. Let's bring Baldy. This is incredible. 706 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 5: Let's welcome back Brian Baldinger and Mike Garrifalo. We're going 707 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 5: to get to the that was amazing. I want to 708 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 5: get to the diving video later, Baldy, but first let's 709 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 5: talk about some of these off season moves. Let's start 710 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 5: with Justin Fields and how he's going to fit in 711 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 5: the New York Jets. 712 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 7: Well, Judy, I'm a big fan of Marrakesh and of 713 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 7: Justin Fields together. I mean, everybody should go. I mean, 714 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 7: it's beyond exotic, but it's fine. But I will say 715 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 7: that I've always been a fan of Justin Fields coming 716 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 7: out of Ohio State. 717 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: I was a fan. 718 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 7: You know, in Chicago he averaged six pointy two yards 719 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 7: a rush, and you know, for five different games Aaron 720 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 7: Glenn had to defend Justin Fields and he saw how 721 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 7: difficult it was. 722 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: I didn't think Pittsburgh used him properly last year. 723 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 7: And I think when you look at Tanner Instrom and 724 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 7: the new offensive coordinator in New York, I think you've 725 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 7: got to use him as a bona fide runner and 726 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 7: use him as a weapon. From that standpoint, I think 727 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 7: it'll open up things for Breece Hall and Brailn Allen 728 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 7: and Ziadavs, the running backs there. 729 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 2: I think they've got work to do in the offensive line. 730 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 7: But I think there's real POTENTI here for Justin because 731 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 7: he's never been really in a stable place or place 732 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 7: that had a great offensive line. He did get off 733 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 7: to a good start last year and then kind of 734 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 7: oddly went back to Russell Wilson after he got up 735 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 7: to a great start and was playing error free football. 736 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 7: But I think he's got a chance to flourish. I mean, 737 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,479 Speaker 7: he knows in that building right now he's the guy. 738 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 7: And I don't know that he felt like that in 739 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 7: Pittsburgh even when he was starting. I don't think you 740 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 7: felt like that, and there was always change. In Chicago, 741 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 7: I feel like they found their guy. He's young, and 742 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 7: there's a lot to build around him and his talent. 743 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 7: So I'm pretty bullish on what Justin Fields can do 744 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 7: in New York this year. 745 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn, when he was in Detroit, you know, they 746 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 3: made the trade for Jared Goff, and we thought, well, 747 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 3: there's a bridge quarter and no bridge quarterback right that 748 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: guy is the Highway in Detroit, justin field, same kind 749 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: of thing, like we got that, Well, here's your bridge 750 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 3: go to if he can get the same kind of 751 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: deal where you don't have to spend the draft pick 752 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 3: on a quarterback because you got your guy and he 753 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: winds up being your guy for an extent the period. 754 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: That's the best possible scenario for Aaron Glenn. A reasonable 755 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: deal at twenty million a year. Again, reasonable when you're 756 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 3: talking about quarterbacks. Speaking of quarterbacks, and a guy that 757 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 3: got slightly better let's say about fifteen million or so 758 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 3: better Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks. What do you 759 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 3: like about the fit here between Donald and what they're 760 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: going to do up there with Clint Kubiak as the OC. 761 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 7: You know, Mike, I always think like these quarterbacks like 762 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 7: Sam and Baker and others, like they have to go 763 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 7: to rehab after they get off to a bad. 764 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 2: Start in places. 765 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 7: And I thought rehab for Sam started in San Francisco 766 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 7: with Kyle Shanahany Clint Kubiak when he was the quarterback 767 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 7: coach there. And I thought, just the year playing Scout team, 768 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 7: playing Week eighteen, I thought Sam really learned a lot 769 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 7: and I think reuniting with Clinton. Now in Seattle, with 770 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 7: Mike McDonald the head coach, I feel like this can 771 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 7: be a new beginning for Sam Now. Obviously in Minnesota 772 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 7: things went well for the first fifteen to sixteen weeks 773 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 7: of the season, but I found the feeling like this connection. 774 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: That he has with Clint's a good start. Right now. 775 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 7: They've got some team building to do around Sam and 776 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,479 Speaker 7: that offense, but now that they've got him locked up here, 777 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 7: start building. 778 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: We'll see the draft. 779 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 7: I think they'll address it in the draft or the receivers, offensive. 780 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: Line give him some help. 781 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 7: But I think it's a good start being reunited within Kubiak. 782 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 4: All right. 783 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 5: The move that cleared the way for Sam Darnold in Seattle, 784 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 5: I think one of the stunners of the off season 785 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 5: so far. The trade Gino Smith going to the Las 786 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders. 787 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 4: How's that fit? 788 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: Well? 789 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 7: I think it's going to be good because I was 790 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 7: around Chip Kelly when he first came to Philadelphia Joey 791 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 7: back in twenty thirteen. He got off to a great start, 792 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 7: and really his ideas about tempo inside outside receivers. Some 793 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 7: of the staples of his offense, like Gino played at 794 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 7: West Virginian for Dana Holgerson. He played in basically the 795 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 7: same offense in college, where a ward tells you what 796 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 7: the offense is. You can get the plays snapped off 797 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 7: and sixteen to eighteen seconds if you want to, if 798 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 7: you need to. So I think he can play that 799 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 7: up tempto style because he has played in it before. 800 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 7: So I think Chip coming back to the NFL, he's 801 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 7: learned a little bit about how to protect your quarterback 802 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 7: a little bit better than he did h He's learned 803 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 7: from some formations and tight ends things he didn't have 804 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 7: when he. 805 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 2: Was at Oregon or maybe his first year in Philadelphia. 806 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 7: I think he's learned a lot since then. I think 807 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 7: it's a good fit for Gino. I think he's going 808 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 7: to play well in his offense. It's going to ask 809 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 7: him to play fast, and that's Chip's offense. That's just 810 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 7: a staple of what he does, and I think Gino's 811 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 7: capable of doing it. 812 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 5: One of the few moves that the Raiders have made 813 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 5: so far this offseason as they try to rebuild with 814 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 5: Pete Carroll in. 815 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: Charge, breaking news, another pass rusher has just cashed in. 816 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: This time it's Danil Hunter, who has agreed to terms 817 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: with the Texans on a one year, thirty five point 818 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: six million dollar contract extent and that now makes him 819 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: the NFL's second highest paid defensive end. He gets a 820 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: raise to thirty two million this season, and almost all 821 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: of the fifty five point one million that he's due 822 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: through twenty twenty six is now fully guaranteed. Also potentially 823 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: here this could also form a grown work for getting 824 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: a Trey Hendrickson deal done in Cincinnati. 825 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: I mean, while the. 826 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: Big twelve welcomed over two hundred prospects and nearly three 827 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: hundred scouts to their two day conference pro day event 828 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: in Frisco, Texas, our Ret Lewis, Daniel Jeremiah, and Bucky 829 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: Brooks are there. 830 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: Hello, Insiders. 831 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 9: Rett Lewis, Daniel Jeremiah, and Bucky Brooks here with you 832 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 9: from the Ford Center, home of the Cowboys today, of course, 833 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 9: home with a Big twelve pro day where we saw 834 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 9: the offensive lineman and defensive lineman hit. 835 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: The field first. 836 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 9: DJ, you stood out to you here on day one. 837 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with Conrad O'Toole from Utah. It doesn't 838 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 10: have a ton of production from the fall, but man 839 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 10: what a workout. He ran a four to six six 840 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 10: forty excellent three cone time as well. So you get 841 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 10: a chance to watch and go to the testing. You 842 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 10: see him run here, real smooth. 843 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 4: Fluid easy. 844 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 10: That wasn't just in the forty and in the three cone. 845 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 10: Also just watching him move around, everything he did looked 846 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 10: effortless and it looks smooth. So someone helped himself and 847 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 10: it's going to give himself an opportunity at the next level. 848 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 11: Well, guys, I'm gonna go with the Arizona standout Jonah 849 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 11: seven A continue to put the exclamation point of what 850 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 11: has been a really solid pre draft process form When 851 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 11: you think about what he has been able to display, 852 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 11: this guy that can play outside and inside, the versatility. 853 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 11: When you look at the tape, you see the IQ, 854 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 11: You see the toughness and the physicality that you want 855 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 11: to see. But out here we want to see the 856 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 11: movements heels. Could he move around, can he make this transitions? 857 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 11: Is he someone that can play outside maybe at right tackle, 858 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 11: or is he destined to make a move interior. I 859 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 11: think he really helped himself with what he's done throughout 860 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 11: the process, particularly what he was able to do with 861 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 11: a Big twelve Prodame. 862 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, guys, I'll go back to the defensive line group 863 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 9: and talk about one of the players we saw from Baylor, 864 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 9: Trevin Maay, who's kind of played up and down the 865 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 9: defensive line for Davi Randa said, they've used them, you know, 866 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 9: at nose, they've used them at the three tech, They've 867 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 9: used them as a five at times. He checked in 868 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 9: at just about two hundred and seventy seven pounds and 869 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 9: I'll run in a four to seven forty today. So 870 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 9: I think as a guy that you want to, you know, 871 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 9: maybe can pack a little bit more weight on and 872 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 9: then put them on the interior that defensive line, and 873 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 9: you could be talking about a player that definitely catches 874 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 9: the eye of some talent evaluators here at the Big 875 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 9: twelve Pro Day. So those are the big guys right Tomorrow, 876 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 9: Day two of the Big twelve Pro Day, we're going 877 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 9: to talk about the quarterbacks, the running backs, the wide receivers. 878 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 9: Kind of a loaded skill group, especially at running back, 879 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 9: and we shall get a chance to talk to Bucky. 880 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 9: I know you're looking forward to this. You see him 881 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 9: down on the field. Coach Prime Dion Sanders and his 882 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 9: son Shader Sanders, one of the very top prospects in 883 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 9: this draft class, going to be here in attendance, and 884 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 9: we look forward to chatting with them. But again, Big 885 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 9: twelve Pro Day, Day two, one o'clock Eastern. We'll see 886 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 9: you tomorrow right here from Frisco, Texas. 887 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: A few players bigger and Super Bowl fifty nine. The 888 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith on that touchdown from Jalen Hurts. But have 889 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: you've seen it, well, there's a different way you can 890 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: see it, and you will not be able to unsee it. 891 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: We'll explain next on the Insiders. 892 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 10: We score snover call you. 893 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 2: Just call it. 894 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 10: For the Eagles. 895 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: It is verse to ten and they take over in 896 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: chief's territory of the forty six yard line. 897 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 2: Church chart exactly how the Eagles get it back. We're 898 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: going to run some plot maybe s down. 899 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 4: We score snover. This must have taken for ever to do. 900 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: The best part of that and not the work by 901 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: fabou Brick is nailing the Nick Sirianni strut in stop motion. 902 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow.