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Michael barr is off this week. 22 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: Coming up on the show, well recap the Major League 23 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 3: Baseball season and a wild World Series between the Dodgers 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: and the Blue Jays. 25 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 5: Bouchers to beat the chap you gonna knock, come out 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: the Dodger stand, tall penwin, bucked up back titles. 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: We'll talk with two time World Series champion and MLB 28 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: Network analyst Al Lighter for his reaction and insight. 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 7: Plus we'll hear part of my conversation with National Soccer 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 7: Hall of Famer Brianna Scurry part of my new Business 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 7: of Soccer series. 32 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: All that is on the way. But first we take 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: a look at a company that wants to revolutionize how 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: brands invest and partner with women's sports. 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 7: Trey Blazing Sports Grew CEO Sarah Gofferinson sat down with 36 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 7: us recently along with Michael Barr to talk about her 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 7: company in how it's boosting women's athletes in the women's 38 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 7: sports space. Let's listen to that conversation. 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 6: Sarah, Welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 40 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 8: Thank you, it's great to be here with you all. 41 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 8: I appreciate the time. 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 6: You are the founder and CEO of Trail Block Sports Group. 43 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 9: Tell us about that, Well, we are a company that 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 9: is just nearly four years old, and I founded Trailblazing 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 9: after eighteen years at ESPN overseeing brand partnerships. 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 8: But I really believe in the. 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 9: Power of the purse and the power of brand marketers 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 9: to really impact the growth of women's sports. So I 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 9: really wanted to do just focus on women's sports. Although 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 9: I love doing our college football and Monday Night deals 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 9: and NBA Final partnerships, I really focus the next chapter 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 9: of my career on just talking to brands about the 53 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 9: ROI within women's and how they could invest authentically and 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 9: connect with the growing fan base of women's sports. 55 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 8: We are a britiqued brand partnership firm and having fun 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 8: doing it. 57 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 7: Sarah, I'm curious, you know when you were seeing things 58 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 7: at ESPN and working on those brand deals and what 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 7: drove you to do this, particularly in women's sports. Were 60 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 7: you seeing a lot left on the table there for 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 7: women's sports and not a lot of attention being paid 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 7: there that you realized so many people could benefit from 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 7: something like this and what sports necessarily Were you thinking, Wow, 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 7: they really deserve more investment from the brand side. 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think. I mean, I think ESPN was very 66 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 8: early on. 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 9: I mean we're at the Women's Sports and Summit where 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 9: I'm doing this podcast and this is I believe their 69 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 9: fifteenth year. So they believed in the power of women's 70 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 9: sports early and I, you know, working with that team 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 9: to get our brand partners like the Nikes of the 72 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 9: world early on. But I did see some signals coming 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 9: out of the pandemic where brands were asking, how do 74 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 9: we lean in a little bit more? What could we 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 9: do that's on the spots and dots and presenting of 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 9: the WNBA games. So what really energized me was where 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 9: working with a few clients. So we worked with Google 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 9: to create the first WNBA studio show. There was no 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 9: WNBA Countdown. 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 8: Until about five years ago. We worked at and. 81 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 9: T to do the Sue Bird and Diana FROSSI Mega. 82 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 8: I really was seeing some signals of. 83 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 9: Brands wanting to lean in, and I wanted the opportunity 84 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 9: to just work with brands across the ecosystem, so not 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 9: just within the ESPN platforms that we had, but also 86 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 9: work with teams and work with leagues, and work with athletes, 87 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 9: because I do think that the brands again have them 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 9: the first, so if they can fuel athletes and can 89 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 9: fuel the growth in teams and leagues, the ecosystem will 90 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 9: be better for it. 91 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: So, Sarah, you know, what I find most interesting is 92 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: the way you create this incremental in game advertising inventory 93 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: right for you know, like so for example, in the 94 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: middle of the game, when their free throws going on 95 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: or you know. 96 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: Goals or whatever. 97 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: I guess, I guess, you know, stuff pops up on 98 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: the rail of the show, kind of like what we're 99 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: receiving when we're watching any sports these days. Talk to 100 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: us about that business, about the future of that business, 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: about the power of advertising in that way. 102 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, it starts with the fact that women's sports 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 9: fans are consuming sixty percent of women's sports content via 104 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 9: streaming channels. And it's really because they've had to over 105 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 9: the years. You couldn't just pop on a linear broadcast 106 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 9: and find women's sports, so women's sports fans have been 107 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 9: trained to actually search out women's sports content via CTV 108 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 9: and via streaming. So we thought, okay, well, there's an 109 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 9: opportunity here to do more than just have a thirty 110 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 9: second spot that lives within the linear broadcast. So Trailblazing 111 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 9: partnered with a company called Transmit, and what we do 112 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 9: is we create incremental engaventory for adisers around the biggest 113 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 9: moments in women's sports. So if an advertiser to target 114 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 9: every three point shot within the WNBA, we could oserve 115 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 9: a picture and picture or an albar unit within the 116 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 9: game without having to go to commercial bath after if 117 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 9: they if a let's say a medical company or a 118 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 9: healthcare company wanted to get injury timeouts, we could then 119 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 9: serve an add that's contextually relevant within moments at sports. 120 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 9: And what we really love about it is for a 121 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 9: long time I would say, oh, you know, we're trying 122 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 9: to buy all you know, the inventory, and women's sports 123 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 9: we just can't staff. And this is sort of debunking 124 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 9: that myth of like, listen, we can inventory and we 125 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 9: can create opportunities, So we're excited. It's called trailblazing moments 126 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 9: across a number of different sports LPGA, Tennis, WNBA, and WSL. 127 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 6: I know we are running out of time, but I 128 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 6: would like your reaction to something. Tell me, I being 129 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: the old geezer, I always think of what moment really 130 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 6: started for women's sports to really put it on the map. 131 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 6: And you got to go back to me to nineteen 132 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 6: seventy three with Billy Jean King going against Bobby Riggs, 133 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: because that was on linear TV and I remember that 134 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 6: very well and my mom. I'll never forget this my mom. 135 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 6: Now she's not a big sports person, but I remember 136 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 6: her watching this on ABC and my mom saying, you 137 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 6: get that, Bobby, you get that Bubby like she did. 138 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 6: Just your reaction to it. It just you know about 139 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 6: a Billy g King thank you? 140 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 9: Yes? 141 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 8: Was she Billy jen King? I mean, my company is. 142 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 9: Named Trailblazing Sports Group, and I think Billy Jean is 143 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 9: the ultimate trailblazer. And you know her her book, Pressure 144 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 9: Is a Privilege is one everyone should read. So she is, 145 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 9: you know, to me, the godmother in sports. I've had 146 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 9: the frivorge from meeting her a couple of times. My 147 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 9: you know, twelve year old doc I think eight or 148 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 9: nine at the time, met her with me and then 149 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 9: again without me and just said thank you for all 150 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 9: you do for for women, you know, a young girl. 151 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 8: I'm excited for the future. 152 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 7: So uh, there's totally there's totally that feeling like when 153 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 7: meeting her and speaking to her that it's less like 154 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 7: genuinely thank you to what she did and and the 155 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 7: goal that she had at the time to not take 156 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 7: less money and to take women's tennis away and say, 157 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 7: guess what if you don't want to pay us we're 158 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 7: going to figure out ourselves. And truly, what she did 159 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 7: in the seventies society, it's it's crazy, yeah, you think 160 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 7: and where we are today. 161 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 8: Yeah. 162 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 9: And I don't know if you've heard, you know, but 163 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 9: she had a She was a big part of Foudy 164 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 9: and and the US women's national team and their fight 165 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 9: for equal pay. She you know, Foudy will tell you 166 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 9: stories of villageing coming into their meetings and really encouraging them. 167 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 9: And and she still continues to be a big part 168 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 9: of the women's you know, the Women's Sports Foundation. She 169 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 9: founded that with her check, her first equal paycheck. So 170 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 9: but I think for me, the moment was night was 171 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 9: the ninety nine World College I went to that game 172 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 9: at Rose Bowl Stadium as a kid from San Diego 173 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 9: and seeing that that was the moment. So I think 174 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 9: when everybody says, oh, this is women's sports, we're having, 175 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 9: you know, a moment, it's Caitlin Clark, It's like, no, no, 176 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 9: Like I love that you went back to seventy three, 177 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 9: But you think about the night the ninety four Dream 178 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 9: Team and the Atlanta Olympics with Cheryl Swoops, and then 179 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 9: you think about the ninety nine you know, World Cups, 180 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 9: So women's sports has been on the rise, and I 181 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 9: think it's fineting the do. 182 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 8: And I think, you know, we still are undervalued. 183 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 9: I mean, there was a great Mackenzie report that said, 184 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 9: you know, it's going to be valued at two point 185 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 9: five million, two five billion dollars by twenty thirty, which 186 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 9: sounds like a big number because it's it's valued about 187 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 9: one billion today. But you know, then you hear Bateman 188 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 9: talking about how the latest and NHL team to be 189 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 9: valued at a two billion. 190 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 8: Dollar franchise fee next year. 191 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 9: So I just think that women's sports is still very undervalued, 192 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 9: and I think there's a tremendous opportunity for brands and 193 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 9: companies to increase the value that they that are putting 194 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 9: towards it. 195 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 7: Absolutely. You know, it's interesting, Sarah. I had recently spoken 196 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 7: with Briana Scurry, who was the goalkeeper of the nineteen 197 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 7: ninety nine World Cup team. Oh yeah, and she had 198 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 7: pointed out to me that this moment that we're in 199 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 7: right now is actually the same formula that we were 200 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 7: in in the nineties when it was World Men's World Cup, 201 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 7: then Olympic, then FIFA World Cup, then Olympics then Women's 202 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 7: World Cup, and that's exactly what started the trajectory of 203 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 7: women's sports. So she said, take a look at what 204 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 7: happened then and what's about to happen again, and it's 205 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 7: going to be just the same as it was back then, 206 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 7: So it's going to double from that momentum. And I 207 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 7: thought that was really interesting to take a look at 208 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 7: that formula that we're in. 209 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, I mean, Vanessa, I just I listened 210 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 9: to your you know, the business of soccer, and think 211 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 9: about this. So you've got the twenty seven World Cup 212 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 9: in Brazil, twenty eight Olympics where the women are defending 213 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 9: their gold in the United States. Then you will have 214 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 9: the thirty one World Cup state side, So you're just 215 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 9: gonna have a tremendous wave of women's soccer and interest 216 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 9: in women's soccer all on that fix, which I'm sure 217 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 9: they got for Q. So it's going to be an 218 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 9: exciting time for women's soccer, I think over the next 219 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 9: eight years. 220 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: Our thanks to Trailblazing Sports Group CEO Sarah godfits In for. 221 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 7: Joining us up next my conversation with two time Olympic 222 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 7: gold medal winner and nineteen ninety nine World Cup champion 223 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 7: Brianna Scary. 224 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: For Vanessa Perdomo and Michael Barr. I'm Damian Sasaur. 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I'm 244 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: Damien Sassauer and. 245 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 7: I'm Vanessa Berudemo. Michael Barr is sadly off this week. 246 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 7: We're gearing up for the World Cup coming to the 247 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 7: States with a new series, The Bloomberg Business of Soccer. 248 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 7: You can catch new episodes on the Bloomberg Business of 249 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 7: Sports podcast feed. Subscribe now on Apples, Spotify and all 250 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 7: your favorite podcast platforms so you never miss a new episode. 251 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 7: On the latest edition of The Bloomberg Business of Soccer, 252 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 7: I focused on goalkeepers. I spoke with former US women's 253 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 7: national team goalkeeper, National Soccer Hall of Famer and two 254 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 7: time Olympic gold medalist Brianna Scarry. Let's take a listen 255 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 7: to a portion of that conversation. Guys, I'm fangirling over here. 256 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 7: If you can't tell, I was a former goalkeeper. So 257 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 7: this is really a dream for me. Brianna, thanks so 258 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 7: much for joining the Business Soccer. 259 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 10: Oh my pleasure. 260 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 11: Thanks for having me, Thanks for thanking of me. So 261 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 11: I appreciate that goalkeepers. 262 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 7: To night exactly. So that's exactly what I want to 263 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 7: talk to you about, you know. So, I think one 264 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 7: of the things that is really interesting when we were 265 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 7: talking about we're obviously soccer's coming up a lot this year. 266 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 7: It's why we have this podcast. You know, we're around 267 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 7: the corner from the World Cup. But I think in 268 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 7: the conversation of soccer in the conversation of stars. Goalkeepers 269 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 7: get lost in this conversation. Would you agree with that? 270 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 10: I do agree. 271 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 11: It's a very interesting thing because America and I think 272 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 11: the world likes goal scorers and not too fond of 273 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 11: those of us who try to stop goals. 274 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 10: From being scored. 275 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 11: So, I mean, it's so interesting because it's exciting. I mean, 276 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 11: it's more exciting when a goal is scored, although we 277 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 11: obviously think it's it's better when a. 278 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 10: Goal is stuck. 279 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 7: I love a good say, I love a good save. 280 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 7: Athleticism is everyone should really pay attention to that's the best. 281 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, I know, lack of appreciation, I guess I don't 282 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 11: know what to say. 283 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely so. I want to start with your journey 284 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 7: in your career, and obviously we have to start with 285 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 7: the ninety nine World Cup, which you know, I is 286 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 7: the greatest performance from a team in greatest moment in 287 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 7: American sports. But I'm not biased at all. Don't worry 288 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 7: about that. 289 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 10: I don't detect any bios. 290 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I want to start with, you know, kind 291 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 7: of the overall arching aspect of the tournament. It's nineteen 292 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 7: ninety nine, it's a World Cup in the US, but 293 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 7: it's women's soccer. So it's kind of new. I want 294 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 7: to what was your take, you know, throughout how it grew, 295 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 7: the fever grew from group stages to the final. 296 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 11: Well, the fact that we were even having in women's 297 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 11: standalone event such as the World Cup was interesting and 298 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 11: had never really been done on the scale that we 299 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 11: were doing it. 300 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 10: Originally. 301 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 11: I don't know if you know this, but originally the 302 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 11: tournament was supposed to be played regionally in small high 303 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 11: school stadiums two to five thousand people. But the committee 304 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 11: decided to try to blow the doors off the thing 305 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 11: and put it in football. 306 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 10: And that was like three years two three years before. 307 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 11: So we literally went door to door for two years 308 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 11: selling our game and said, please please come. 309 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 10: To our tournament. We're going to have it right. 310 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 11: Here to the US, in your backyard, and you don't 311 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 11: want to miss it, and da da D and so 312 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 11: we were educating and letting people know. So then when 313 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 11: we finally got to play our first game, you know, 314 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 11: out a giant stadium in front of seventy six thousand people, 315 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 11: it was truly a dream come true. 316 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 10: I mean, it was way beyond any expectation. 317 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 11: I mean, because there's a certain level of desire of 318 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 11: a dream that you want to create, and then when 319 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 11: you're actually living in it, it's very different. And so 320 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 11: we were very emotional that game, and of course now 321 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 11: that it was it was happening, we had to get 322 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 11: to business. 323 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 10: We had to get to work. 324 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 11: So we had a fantastic game that day and beat 325 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 11: the team in Mark. 326 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 10: Three to zero. 327 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, and obviously I know that one of your dreams 328 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 7: when you were younger was to be an Olympian, and 329 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 7: you played in the Olympics right a couple of years 330 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 7: before that, and that was also in the US in 331 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 7: nineteen ninety six, which is kind of the first Olympics 332 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 7: where we see women's sports become a big thing. Right, 333 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 7: you guys win the gold medal. The US basketball team 334 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 7: wins the gold medal, and that spurs the WNBA And 335 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 7: then you go into the moment of the World Cup. 336 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 7: Did that have any momentum do you think? Or was 337 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 7: the World Cup still kind of this new concept. Everybody 338 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 7: knew what the Olympics was, but not everybody maybe knew 339 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 7: what the world the Women's World Cup was. 340 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 11: I think the ninety sixth Olympic Games had a lot 341 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 11: of momentum in it. 342 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 10: One of the things that happened. 343 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 11: I don't know if you recall, but they didn't show 344 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 11: our game live at all on NBC during that ninety 345 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 11: six Olympics. They were showing all these other different sports, 346 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 11: but they didn't show our game live. 347 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 10: But though we had, you know, seventy six thousand people 348 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 10: in the. 349 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 11: Stands and were favored to win, and so what you 350 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 11: saw if you weren't at the stadium, you saw snippets. 351 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 11: So by the time ninety nine year old around, they decided, hey, 352 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 11: maybe we should show the okay, once in a while, 353 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 11: people might want to watch it, So they did, and 354 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 11: so that was one thing that changed. But I also 355 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 11: feel like that Olympic Games was the was the year 356 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 11: of the Woman. 357 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 10: It truly was. 358 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 11: And a lot of our collective sports teams in the 359 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 11: United States one gold, and I think that really had 360 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 11: a shift in how women's sports was perceived, especially team sports. 361 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 11: And so we were trying to do this, this standalone 362 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 11: World Cup tournament. A lot of people were skeptical because 363 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 11: you know, they were like, oh, well, yeah, Olympics. Of course, 364 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 11: who wants who doesn't want to see the Olympics And 365 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 11: who wouldn't want to go go to a game, a 366 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 11: gold medal game, and they were saying, well, this is 367 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 11: this is very different. But we believed differently from them, 368 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 11: and we thought we could pull it off. So I 369 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 11: feel like the two combined tournaments really had an impact 370 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 11: on each other. And so for me, we had great women. 371 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 11: I'm going into the ninety night World Cup because of 372 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 11: the ninety six. 373 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 7: Olympics, and so you win in the ultimate fashion of 374 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 7: penalty K shootout, which I I it's my favorite way 375 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 7: to win. I think it's just like the most incredible feeling. 376 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 7: I don't think there's anything that beats it. But did 377 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 7: you expect what the fervor that you guys got after 378 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 7: winning ninety nine. 379 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 11: I feel like we kind of thought there would be 380 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 11: some some real fire in women's game, especially in women's soccer, 381 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 11: after we won. But I don't think we truly understood 382 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 11: the magnitude, at least I did it. You know, awent 383 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 11: from relative obscurity, uh you know leading into the World Cup, 384 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 11: start to completely everybody knowing who I was. Right after 385 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 11: we won a lot of fame and a lot of 386 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 11: uh you know, notoriety and truly relief that we had won. 387 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 7: Actually, yeah, getting back to goalkeepers a little bit, you know, 388 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 7: and you mentioned it that maybe at the time there 389 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 7: was obviously all these other factors that led you to 390 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 7: not be the most marketable play But I also think 391 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 7: it's interesting when we're looking at goalkeepers, it's a cyclical thing. 392 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 7: I mean, there's only been really three goalkeepers of the 393 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 7: US women's national team in the last thirty years. I 394 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 7: mean thirty years. That's really crazy. But I think that 395 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 7: there's something there too that, yes, the other players and 396 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 7: other goalkeepers in general and internationally have been able to 397 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 7: find some footing, but there also has to be this 398 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 7: other element to it, like this first right, you were 399 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 7: this iconic first player that ninety nine ers and all 400 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 7: of that. Hope Solo was very notorious for many things, 401 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 7: you know, positive and negative, made a lot of headlines. 402 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 7: But I would say that a lot of my friends 403 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 7: who are casual fans don't really know who Alyssen necessarily 404 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 7: is by name. So I think there has to be 405 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 7: this other thing that propels people beyond for people to 406 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 7: notice goalkeepers. I think that's on the media side. Do 407 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 7: you think it's a personality thing, Like what would you 408 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 7: say that that is, Well, yeah, that's. 409 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 11: A really fascinating point to make. First of all, let 410 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 11: me say that when it comes to winning with the 411 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 11: women's side, the teams that are playing the World Cup 412 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 11: and the Olympics tend to be the same people. On 413 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 11: the men's side, it's different. So when you talk about cycles, 414 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 11: world Cup is first and the Olympics are right after. 415 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 11: Every single cycle team USA has won either the Olympic 416 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 11: gold or the World Cup championship. And so I think 417 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 11: in those few cycles where we were winning Olympic gold 418 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 11: instead of World Cup gold, it's the same team, and 419 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 11: so you have that notoriety. I feel like what happened 420 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 11: with Alyssa is I think that the lights shifted from 421 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 11: goalkeepers being able to essentially take the game by the 422 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 11: scruff of the neck and get the team to the 423 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 11: final and then we figure out how to win it 424 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 11: to you know, the field players. 425 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 10: You know, you had Megan Rapino, You've. 426 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 11: Had Abby Wambach, You've had a lot of different players. 427 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 11: Now you had you know, Kristin Press, Toban Heath, Lindsay Haran, 428 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 11: all these great names, and the goalkeeper Alyssa didn't have 429 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 11: to do as much. I feel like as Hope and 430 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 11: I had to do, and so her name wasn't really 431 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 11: in the media that much. But the truth is, in 432 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 11: my opinion, she proved herself in twenty nineteen because there 433 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 11: was no way that that team would have won that 434 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 11: World Cup if it were for Alyssa. But she was 435 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 11: greatly overshadowed by Alex Morgan, by Megan Rapino, and just 436 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 11: by all the different things that were going on. And 437 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 11: the first time was winning World Cup in a long time, 438 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 11: so there was a lot going on there and that 439 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 11: got a lot more attention than elicited, unfortunately. 440 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 10: But she is a brilliant goalkeeper. 441 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 11: I've met her several times, watched their play and she's 442 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 11: got all the goods and we've been very blessed with 443 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 11: great goalkeeping here for the women's side for decades. 444 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, Also she's a peak saving machine. Listener, Yes, 445 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 7: I know exactly. 446 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: You can bank it right, Yeah, that. 447 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 10: She's gonna save at least one, if not two. 448 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 7: Yes, I think it's interesting. You know in your new 449 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 7: you know your like second half career. You know you 450 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 7: work with brands. You said you have more partnerships now 451 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 7: you you've been part of a team and things like that. 452 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 7: Have you had conversations with brands about the power of 453 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 7: goalkeepers and telling their story and and like we said, 454 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 7: I mean, if I was a brand and I was 455 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 7: going to invest in a player, I would invest in 456 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 7: a player who's going to be in that seat for 457 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 7: ten years. You know, you know what I'm saying. So 458 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 7: have you had those conversations with brands. 459 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 11: I have had those conversations, not only with with goalkeepers 460 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 11: in general. I mean I explained to them how goalkeeping 461 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 11: is the foundation of a team. And at one point 462 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 11: in time, if you go back in time and look 463 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 11: at every single team that's won a World championship or 464 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 11: Olympic championship at one point in time, and that run, 465 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 11: the goalkeeper had the team on their shoulders. And so 466 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 11: if you don't have strong defensive goalkeeping, then you're not 467 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 11: going to win. 468 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 10: That's just how it works. 469 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 11: And so who better to have represent you if you're 470 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 11: if you're a company that wants to, you know, talk 471 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 11: about strength or teamwork or camaraderie or leadership. Goalkeepers are 472 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 11: all those things wrapped into one. And in my case, 473 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 11: I feel like not only my goalkeeper, but I was 474 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 11: also a trailblazer and so I understand how to how 475 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 11: to literally blaze trails and make make something there that 476 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 11: was not there before. And so for me, I think 477 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 11: the important thing too with goalkeepers is where we tend 478 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 11: to be rather cerebral in our ability to you know, 479 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 11: decide where who goes where and shift our teammates and 480 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 11: positions to to be strong as a team. I mean, 481 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 11: I feel like one of my greatest my greatest traits 482 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 11: was my ability to communicate to my backs and put 483 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 11: them in a right position for them to be successful. 484 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 11: And so all these steps of success, these attributes of 485 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 11: success are all the same whether you're on the picture 486 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 11: in the boardroom. 487 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 7: That's a portion of my conversation with all time women's 488 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 7: soccer great and my personal hero, Brianna Scurry. Check out 489 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 7: an extended edition of the conversation as part of the 490 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 7: Bloomberg Business of Soccer. You can find that on the 491 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 7: Business of Sports podcast feed on Apple, Spotify and all 492 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 7: your favorite podcast platforms. 493 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: Up next, we recap the World Series and talk coming 494 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 3: baseball off season with two time World Series champ Outlider. 495 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 7: For Damian Sassar. I'm Vanessa Perdomo. You're listening to the 496 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 7: Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio around the world. 497 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 498 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us on the Bloomberg Business of Sports, 499 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: where we explore the big money issues in the world 500 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 3: of sports. I'm Damian Sasauer and. 501 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 7: I'm Vanessa Proudemo. Michael Barr will be back next week. Damien, 502 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 7: this weekend was by far the craziest World Series I 503 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 7: have seen in a long time. 504 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: I mean, Yoshinobo Yamamoto, those are the only two words 505 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 3: you need to remember, Vanessa. I mean, what an outstanding 506 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: performance by him and the entire Dodgers team. I mean, 507 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: I thought the Blue Jays had it. 508 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 7: I thought the Blue Jay's had it. They were within 509 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 7: one inch of making it happen. 510 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: Our show going on a second last time time time. 511 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: That's my girl Rojas who ties it on the top 512 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: of the din saves it. 513 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 6: In the bottom of the dine well. 514 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: Joining us now to recap a wild, wild World Series 515 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: and to look ahead to a busy offseason for baseball 516 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 3: is one mister al Lighter. He's a nineteen year MLB VETT, 517 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: a two time World Series champion, and is currently an 518 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 3: MLB network out on top of being a former New 519 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 3: York That's great. 520 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 7: Al, welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 521 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 12: Thank you. Good to be here. Damien Vanessa, how are 522 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 12: you well? 523 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: We had one heck of a World Series, Al, What 524 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: are the key takeaways from your point? I mean Toronto, 525 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I forget for that matter, Canada was up 526 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: in arms. What an incredible world Series? What an incredible ending? 527 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: What do you takeaways here? 528 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 5: Well, the Dodgers are a super team, but they didn't 529 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 5: do it as super everyone anticipated with their ninety three 530 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: wins this year. What they are able to do as 531 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 5: a result of their deep pockets and large amount of 532 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 5: revenue that they bring in. 533 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 12: Is quite frankly. 534 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 5: They had They had front end starters that were able 535 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 5: to temper their workload until the end of the season. 536 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 5: A La Blake Snell their one starter, Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Unbelievable, 537 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 5: Damien Vanessa, I don't know how close you guys are 538 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 5: to baseball. I pitched in the big leagues for nineteen years. 539 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: My son actually pitches now. I've been around it my 540 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: whole life, and I never ever would think someone. 541 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 12: Can do what Yamamoto did. 542 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 5: Game six, six innings, one hundred pitches right there at 543 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: and the next day, not only just to come in 544 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 5: and pitch in any he pitches three innings. It's beyond comprehension. 545 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 5: He deserved the MVP and heartbreaking for me. I'll be honest. 546 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 5: I played seven years in Toronto and was part of 547 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: some World Series teams. 548 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 12: Very cool. 549 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: It was in their hands, man, it was their series 550 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 5: to win, and it was again heartbreaking. They're in Toronto, 551 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 5: an entire country behind them, a massive amount of people 552 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 5: eyeballs watching it. 553 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, it was heart breaking. 554 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like it was heartbreaking for more than 555 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 7: just Canada. Right. I'm watching this as a Yankee fan 556 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 7: who we absolutely get destroyed last year by the Dodgers 557 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 7: in the World Series. Horrible to watch. Honestly, this was 558 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 7: just more entertaining to watch from just a not heartbreaking aspect. 559 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 7: But I also feel like then you have people rooting 560 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 7: for the Blue Jays, right because they don't want the 561 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 7: Dodgers to win back to back. But it's a great story. 562 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 7: Are the Dodgers the new evil Empire? Is it gotten 563 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 7: to the point yet where there will start to be 564 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 7: people rooting just against them or are they just a 565 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 7: likable team with the way they did win, and the 566 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 7: way they pulled it out. 567 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: Do you think, Vanessa, you said you're a Yankee fan. Okay, 568 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 5: so guess what. I think it's great for the sport 569 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 5: and all sports to have a villain. I really do. 570 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: I mean it's silly. I mean, you know, it's comic 571 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: book talk. But I don't mind at all that they have. 572 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 5: They had a payroll over four hundred million. 573 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 12: Guess what. 574 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 5: The Mets weren't far behind at three hundred and forty million. 575 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 5: They didn't even make the playoffs. They win any three 576 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 5: games barely over five hundred. Your Yankees are right there 577 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 5: in the neighborhood over three hundred million. The Phillies are there, 578 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: and Toronto is fifth in payroll in twenty twenty five. 579 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 5: I say this because, yeah, they're likable guys. Yeah, there's 580 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 5: an interesting team. There's a litany of different players from 581 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 5: all around the world. 582 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 6: But I like that. 583 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 12: I like the fact I assume I'm much older than 584 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 12: you guys. But I liked when I used. 585 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 5: To watch football and the seventies and it was the Cowboys, 586 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 5: the Steelers, the Dolphins, the Raiders, and it was it. 587 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 5: You had like, all right, we don't like them and 588 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 5: we're gonna go after them, just like you probably don't 589 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 5: like the Red Sox, and I think that's great for sports. 590 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 12: Do I put these as like evil empire and all 591 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 12: full people? No, of course not. 592 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 5: I love the fact that Mark Walter, the owner of 593 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 5: this team, Guggenheim Partners. 594 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: They put money into payroll, They put money in the team, 595 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 4: and guess what they got rewarded for it. 596 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 3: Well, you know what now, I mean you mentioned Yoshinobu Yamamoto, 597 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: and you know, I'm looking at the free agents to 598 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: watch as we head into this offseason and seen no 599 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: fewer than three Japanese ballplayers, all legends. I mean, Kazuma Okamoto, 600 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: I mean, Tatsuya am I. I mean, they're all coming 601 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: to the major leagues next year. And so talk to 602 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: us a little bit about this influx of Japanese talent 603 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: and how it's changing the face of the game. 604 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question, Damien, because perhaps there might 605 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 5: be a conversation in the owners meetings whenever they have 606 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 5: that in the wintertime, because there is a pipeline right 607 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 5: now of the guys you just mentioned potentially coming here 608 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 5: and signing with respective team, and what's going on with 609 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: the LA because when you have Otani, you know, move 610 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 5: from the Angels over to the Dodgers. Yamamoto is a 611 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: special guy. Sasaki is also a special pitcher. The free 612 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 5: agents that you mentioned, you know, if there's a cornering 613 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 5: of the best Japanese talent with one respective team. I 614 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 5: know it's free market, I know it's capitalism, but it 615 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: would be a little disappointing to think that that they're 616 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 5: all pipeline to what organization. I hope that that's not 617 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 5: the case, because there's there's talented players all around the world. 618 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 5: We know that, right the Caribbean has been littered with 619 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 5: you know, great players Dominican, Cuba, Venezuela, you know, Puerto Rico, Mexico, 620 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 5: et cetera. So here we are. We this has become here. 621 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 12: I think. 622 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 5: I think this was pretty cool. Yoshinobu Yamamoto through the 623 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 5: first pitch in Major League Baseball in Tokyo. When when 624 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 5: when the Dodgers went there and the last pitch was 625 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 5: thrown by Yamamoto in Toronto, Canada, you get more of 626 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 5: a better snapshot of where our sport is trying to go. 627 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 6: Now. 628 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 12: I know the NFL has put a corner on the 629 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 12: market on. 630 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: That or at least, you know, with their experience of 631 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 5: playing in mostly in Europe, but now Mexico and Brazil. 632 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 12: So yeah, it's getting the world's getting smaller. 633 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: Well, well you know what now, I mean, we knew 634 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: the A's are moving to Vegas, right, And I had 635 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: asked you, you know, league expand right. I mean, look, 636 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on expansion? I mean, do you 637 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: believe that we're gonna see it in the coming years. 638 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: I mean I imagine you know the answer would be yes, 639 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: but I'm just curious to hear your thoughts. And what 640 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: do you think about some of these cities. I mean, Nashville, 641 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: we know is a baseball city, but Salt Lake Vegas, 642 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: I mean, what are your thoughts? 643 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, if they don't, I would be massively disappointed what 644 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 5: you just set up there. There are there are strong 645 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 5: candidates for a major league team. I one hundred percent 646 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 5: agree with you, And I don't know that media rights 647 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 5: issue with a place like Nashville close to Cincinnati, and 648 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 5: you got Saint Louis nearby, and I guess to a 649 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 5: lesser extent, Chicago. 650 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 12: I don't know, Atlanta will probably get a little upset 651 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 12: about it, but you can figure it out, right. It's 652 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 12: all about money. 653 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Nashville would be a golden ticket for 654 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 5: whoever gets that franchise and for Major League Baseball, as 655 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 5: you know, being an anchor down by the way there 656 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 5: you go. 657 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 8: Huh. 658 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: You know, we had a tough We had a tough 659 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: one on the football side. I know, I know, I 660 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: don't know if we're out of it. 661 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, but we'll see. 662 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 5: Well if they if they went out and be Tennessee, 663 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 5: they're they're gonna be in the Uh, They're gonna be 664 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 5: in the b. 665 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 12: C S, which is amazing. 666 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, sorry Sidetrack, I'm following the birdie. 667 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 6: Uh. 668 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 5: And we need another team out west. You know it's Seattle. 669 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 5: His oral always been problematic with travel. It looks like 670 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 5: Oakland is going to settle in and in Vegas. I 671 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 5: hear Salt Lake. 672 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 12: I don't know. With Portland. 673 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 5: Maybe with their troubles that I read about and watch 674 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 5: videos of of downtown Portland, maybe that's scaring uh baseball, 675 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. 676 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 12: And yeah, so we put a team out west. I'm 677 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 12: all in for Nashville. 678 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 5: If Nashville doesn't get an expansion team, I think they 679 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 5: missed the boat. 680 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: On that, I really do. 681 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 6: I couldn't. 682 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 12: You know, Charlotte is being mentioned probably out of it. 683 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 12: That's that's probably the strongest for right there. 684 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 3: No, I mean I agree with you. If Nashville misses 685 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: out on this, I mean it would be. 686 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 12: And also to it, Damian if they want to. 687 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 5: I think there's some there's some talk about realigning the 688 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 5: whole thing because once the national TV package expires, and 689 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 5: I think that's in twenty seven or eight, there's a 690 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 5: chance to renegotiate. 691 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 12: Right and as you guys know, you're there at Bloomberg, 692 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 12: you talk about numbers all the time. 693 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 5: They got to figure out how to national nationalize if 694 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 5: it's worthd the TV package not only with a Fox 695 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 5: or TVs or NBC or whoever, but the regional sports 696 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 5: networks because not every regional sport network is you know, 697 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 5: the S Network or Nessan or some of the strong 698 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 5: ones Marquee. You know, there's some of the clubs that 699 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 5: struggle and their revenue is reflective based on viewership. So 700 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 5: that's all in play. 701 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 12: I think it's I think it's going to be. 702 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 5: A realignment to have, yes, Vanessa, the Yankees and the 703 00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 5: Mets in the same division. 704 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 3: Oh my god, could you imagine? 705 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 8: Interesting? 706 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 3: Well, one last question for me. I mean, you know, 707 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: we just saw the Dodgers when they're second in a row. 708 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 3: I mean, the last time we saw back to back 709 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 3: to back champions you know who it was. It was 710 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: our ninety eight two thousand New York Yankees. But it's 711 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: only happened four times in the history of Major League Baseball. 712 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 3: What do you think about the Dodgers chances next year? 713 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say they're probably the favorite. I don't know 714 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 4: what the line's going to be, but you have an 715 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: ownership group that will continue to spend. And I'm not 716 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 4: saying all spending results in World championships, but. 717 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 10: It's pretty close. 718 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 6: Strong correlation. 719 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, with strong correlation, thank you. I mean you got 720 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 5: the number one. The Mets are disappointed, right, no question about. 721 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 7: It's my favorite story. 722 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, I'm looking at it again on spot track. 723 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 5: The Yankees playoff team third, Phillies playoff team for Toronto 724 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 5: World Series, fit San Diego playoff team, Boston, playoff team Houston, 725 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 5: the other one, oh Chicago. 726 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 12: Chicago's eleven. 727 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a correlation, and why not that I 728 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 5: don't see Owtani young motor is only going to get better. 729 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 5: Roki Sasaki is a young kid, He's going to get better. 730 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 731 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all about the way they spend. They spend 732 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 7: smart and they get they get some good guys. 733 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 12: That's right. 734 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, a lot of the owners want the 735 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 5: model of truly the Tampa Bay Race. You look at 736 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 5: their win lost record over the last however of many years, 737 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 5: they're right up there with the big dogs. Another team 738 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 5: was surprising because I was I was working the World 739 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 5: Series and I was curious about payroll. The Cleveland Guardians. 740 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 5: I went back to, like when the Dodgers started winning. 741 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 5: I think it was like twenty thirteen, the Cleveland Guardians 742 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 5: were like second or third only like the Yankees and 743 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 5: the Dodgers and the Guardians. Not a big payroll, not 744 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 5: a big market, not a big revenue. So when the owners, 745 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 5: the deep pocketed owners sit there and say, why am 746 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 5: I spending three hundred and fifty million on players? When 747 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 5: the rays in the Guardians, you know, whoop our butts 748 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 5: once a low. 749 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 7: They need everyone needs a better system, is what it is. 750 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 7: Better form system. Because they're very. 751 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 5: Good at that mouse trap they're all trying to get ahead, 752 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 5: but they're now it's splitting hairs because they're extrapolating data, 753 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 5: number and analytics from kind of the same place as 754 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 5: they really are. 755 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 3: Our thanks to two time World Series champion and MLB 756 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: Network analyst Al light Are for joining us. 757 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 7: And that does it for this edition of The Bloomberg 758 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 7: Business of Sports for Damian Sasaur, I'm Vanessa Prodomo. 759 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: Tune in again next week for the latest on the 760 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 3: stories moving big money in the world of sports, and 761 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 3: don't forget to catch our podcast on all your podcast platforms. 762 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 3: You're listening to The Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg 763 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: Radio around the world. 764 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 7: Stay with us. 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