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Now here's a highlight from Coast 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: to Coast AM on iHeart Radio and welcome back to 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast dr Sky with us Stephen Kate. Stephen, 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: there is a way to predict cycles of eclipses that 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: apparently happened every two and twenty three months or so. 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: It's the Seris system. What is that? This is fascinating 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: and good to be back here, you know, a long 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: time ago, and this is where we have to give 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: credit to the ancients. How they did this is still 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: the greatest of mysteries because today with advanced computers, even 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: calculating to the tenth or million millisecond of how these 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: eclipses started. Something that's been around for a long time 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: is the subject of say Ros cycles. There were a 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: cycle of repetitive eclipses every eighteen years and eleven days. 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: Dot dot dot as we go across the page. Now 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: what that means if we put this in perspective to 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: this particular total solar eclipse that we're having, This one 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: is a siros, and there's literally hundreds of these say 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: ros is that astronomers have calculated on into like even 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: twenty four thousand years from now. This particular eclipse that 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: we're going to see here in August one, literally somewhat 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: ten days, eight hours and some odd change away, is 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: part of a serros called one has seventies sevent eclipses 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: inside that particular serros. This is number twenty two. And 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: think about this. It started back on January the fourth 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: of sixteen thirty nine with a partial eclipse of the Sun. 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Will end successfully on April the seventh. One. Of course, 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: we're long gone to the infinite in three thousand and 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: nine a d. So the point is these repetitive cycles, 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: there's so many of them. This particular eclipse has a 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: relationship to one that took place in over Europe. And 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: what's really fascinating about this is in a calendar year, 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: you theoretically can get up to about seven eclipses, but 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: usually it's less than that. And if you take this timeline, 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: and this is very interesting, between nine and the year 45 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: three thousand a d there's going to be almost to 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: the number twelve thousand solar eclipses of that total. Get 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: a lot of this to show how really infrequent these are, 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: but maybe not so. There are three thousand, one hundred 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: and seventy three total solar eclipses within that period of time, 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: and only five hundred and sixty nine of those are 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: the rarest and strangest of all eclipses called a hybrid eclipse. 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: And folks may want to know what's that when unfortunately 53 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: the moon is too small, meaning at apogee or farthest 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: away from us. If you take this phenomenon, if you 55 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: take let's say a nickel and put a dime on 56 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: top of it, the dime would be the moon. It's 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: smaller than the diameter of the nickel, so you get 58 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: this annulus of light around it. But in this particular case, 59 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: with hybrid eclipses, George, this is even stranger. You have 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: just a bare amount of sunlight streaming around the full Sun, 61 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: and then as the Sun and Earth move, it transforms 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: itself like a magical transformer, from a very very fine 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: annular eclipse back to total. But say, roses are the 64 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: science behind this sacred geometry, And George, I still go 65 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: back to this and don't even have an answer, and 66 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't I wonder out there. I mean, all the 67 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: great guests you have on the show talking about the 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: predictability of eclipses that go back, unfortunately to two Chinese 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: individuals who failed to predict the solar eclipse along time 70 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: ago and be seen and High and Hoe. They did 71 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: not understand okay lated eclipses, and sadly, probably atle like 72 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: North Korea, they were executed for failure to provide the 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: emperor with this longevity thing. In those days, eclipses might 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: have been looked at as a good thing. But unfortunately, 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: and we now know, one of the old total eclipses 76 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: or some eclipses of the sun happened back on October BC. Sorry, 77 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: High and Ho they're not around to tell the story, 78 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: of course, and didn't live. Sounds like Santa's elves or something, 79 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: but no, seriously, sero cycles. To put it in perspective, 80 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: these are the repetitive cycles of eclipses. And you may 81 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: be wondering, folks, as you're listening in George, why don't 82 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: we see with this so called sacred geometry, why do 83 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: we not see an eclipse of this particular earth, I 84 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: mean of the Sun and the moon every calendar month. 85 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: And the simple answer is list very few of these 86 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: eclipses crossed these nodal points, since the Moon is inclined 87 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: a little bit above or but this is perfect point right. 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: And then finally this is I think this is what 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: really on this particular show. I think the people get 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: very introspective on this subject. And of course you know best. 91 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: But when you take a look at sacred geometry, figure 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: this out, folks. The moon is two thousand, one hundred 93 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and fifty nine miles across. It's the diameter of distance 94 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: slave from Phoenix to New York City, an object that's small, 95 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: with the sun almost a little about eight hundred and 96 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: sixty five thousand miles. How does that happen here in 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: the Solar system on a regular basis? Where else I 98 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: should say, does it happen. But here on the Earth 99 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: we have this sacred geometry that happens ever so often. 100 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: The ever so often is coming up in ten days. 101 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: And George, this is the sad part. The Moon is 102 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: slipping away from us a few centimeters a year. We 103 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: know that. So we'll no longer have eclipses of the 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Sun in about six hundred million years. How about that. 105 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. So now let me ask you some other 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: space questions. October twelfth of this year, an asteroid that 107 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: could be forty two hundred feet is going to pass 108 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: within forty miles from the planet. Yes, that's pretty darn 109 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: close it is. And George, as you know, I mean 110 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: we talk every Monday, right, we talk every Monday? And 111 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: how many times do we lead off where you lead 112 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: off with a news story? Here goes another asteroid, but 113 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: this one write it down, folks, remember it tc like 114 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: Tom Charles, number four is an Apollo class asteroid that 115 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: orbits the Sun every six nine days. And as you 116 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: reported accurately, at least the best information we can read 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: out there on the web. We don't always believe everything 118 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: we read. But the point is this geo stationary satellite 119 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: it rounded off the miles. This house size asteroid is 120 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: going to slip through hopefully, not know any closer than that. 121 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: But George, I've heard other numbers too. I mean this 122 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: is and really digging into this, I've heard closest as 123 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: potentially for two miles or as far away, and get 124 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: a load of the far away. It's still within the 125 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: zone of the Earth's I call it the Earth's ring. 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: Look at how many geostationary satellites. The Earth has a 127 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: ring like Saturn, and even though it doesn't have a 128 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: ring made from planetary material, it's man made. That's close. 129 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: They say that if it did hit the planet, it 130 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: would cause great level of impact damage. What does that mean, Well, 131 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: this is where the uncertainty lies. The Chillia Bin object, 132 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: which was probably on the order of sixty feet plus 133 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: that screamed through the skies back in February. That's injured people, 134 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: but you bet, and it actually the most people need 135 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: to know this, Most of the damage did not occur 136 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: from impact material. It happened from the incredible air sonic boom. 137 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: The concussion we call concussion, the shock wave, a compression 138 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: wave through the atmosphere. Now, if this object was sixty 139 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: six ft across, and they did recover some particular parts 140 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: of Chilia Binsk. But in this case, George, it's really 141 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: anybody's guess. And I always used this example, not just 142 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: here in Arizona, but across the audience. I think they'll 143 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: appreciate this foreign wide the eat Arizona meteorite Crater. I'm 144 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: not a tourism director for Arizona, but if you happen 145 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: to come out here in Arizona, folks, stop and see 146 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: just forty miles to the east of Flagstaff, near two Guns, 147 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: that's the name of the town, this amazing preserved fossil, 148 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: allegedly a two hundred foot object. Nico Liron screamed and 149 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: ripped the sky apart some fifty thousand years ago and 150 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: made a one mile ish crater that's only two hundred 151 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: feet across, and he came in at an oblique angle. 152 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: So could you imagine if something like that came straight 153 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: down the point? Is even an object like TC two 154 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve TC four, Well, that could cause uh, 155 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: that could cause a lot of people to have a 156 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: very bad day. Saying it mildly, I think so too. Okay, Now, 157 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: Cassini diving towards Saturday. Next month, NASA's Cassini spacecraft will 158 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: end a thirteen year mission to Saturn by plunging into 159 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: the body of the ring planet. But first Cassini is 160 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: going to skim the atmosphere about five times. This has 161 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: been a very successful mission, hasn't it. George. Dr Caroline Porco, 162 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: who you probably had on the show, you know, so 163 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: involved with this Cassini mission. It is outstanding. And as 164 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: we go about our busy lives on planet number three here, 165 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: just remember the good folks at GPL and other space 166 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: related organizations. Of course NASA, we have learned so much 167 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: about this planet. Galileo, when he first looked at this 168 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: planet in the telescope, never fully comprehended that it was 169 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: a ring. He thought there were two massive satellites along 170 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: the equatorial plane. His simple, you know, telescope could not 171 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: reveal the detail. But with Cassini thirteen years in kicking strong, 172 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: eventually the object runs out of propellant and eventually, in 173 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: another sad way, they may even be running out of funding, 174 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: who knows. But what's happening is the ring system of center. 175 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: It is literally an intricate pattern of moving debris in 176 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: various orbital planes. In other words, that doesn't move as 177 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: one sheet. It's like you couldn't drive a car around 178 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: it like it's a race track or a vehicle. It's 179 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: made up of objects that may be as small as pebble, 180 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: little grains of sand and pebble, all the way up 181 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: to maybe even sizes of SUVs and maybe even the 182 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: chunks of the size of homes. But it's looking to 183 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: explore the dynamics of this ring system because George, well, 184 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: within those rings, we're finding these tiny shepherd moons and 185 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: it's so cool. If you look at cassen these images, 186 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: you see these tiny little specks that look like dandruff 187 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: in the sky, but they're little satellites maybe a half 188 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: a mile, maybe a couple of hundred feet. And what 189 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: they do is they bring out ten drills of material 190 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: from the rings and gravitationally pull them. So Cassini is 191 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: going to skim as you mentioned the atmosphere some five times. 192 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: It's going to look and penetrate through there. But what's 193 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: going to happen. Sadly, it meets its demise as it 194 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: goes into Mother's Saturn, most phenomenal planet George, look at 195 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: the top of the planet. The hexagonal storms that we've seen. 196 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is just totally bizarre. I'll always 197 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: remember the first time I had a telescope, cold Detroit 198 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: night and I'm out there looking at the stars and 199 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: planets and I see Saturn and with that small three 200 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: inch refractor television telesphope telescope, Steven, I could see the 201 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: rings just kind of floating out there. He was gorgeous. 202 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: It's amazing. And you know, we do this a lot. 203 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: We do programs in Sedona all over the place, and 204 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: I highlight Sedona because of their dark sky laws that 205 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: they have and there who keep the sky's dark. We 206 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: show this and no matter where we are here in Phoenix, 207 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: we're traveling around the country. You're right, you see this. 208 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: And somebody says to me, Okay, take the thing out 209 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: of inside of your telescope. You've got like a little 210 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: thing hanging inside there. Right, it looks not unreal, like surreal, 211 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: but it's amazing. And think about this. The diameter of 212 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: the ring system of Saturn is technically the largest object 213 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: in the Solar System. From ring edge to ring edge, 214 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: it's a d seventy thousand miles plus stupid Jupiter, of 215 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: course eighty five or eighty six thousand miles eight, depending 216 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: on who you ask. But you're right and what you see, George, 217 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: and I'm watching this a few nights to go here. 218 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: We have monsoons still pretty strong here in Arizona this 219 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: time of year, like most people know. But as you 220 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: look at the Ring system, just about five or six 221 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: ring diameters away, there's another strange object that's even visible 222 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: in a three inch refractor and maybe even a smaller scale. 223 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: It's Titan, the largest satellite of Saturn towards That's an 224 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: amazing world. It's got oceans made of octane, sure does. 225 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 1: It's incredible. Listen to more Coast to Coast a m 226 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: every weeknight at one a m. Eastern and go to 227 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am dot com for more