1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Do you want the pickup truck or will you pay 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: a little more for ferrar right, that's what the Ravens 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: decided to do. I feel like you're actually more of 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: a regular in a lounge and making these days. Yeah, 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: I would say so. We'll discussed some contract terms him. 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: How many ice cream bars did you eat this weekend? 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Because that's always my favorite part of draft weekend. There's 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: chicken wings, there's ice cream bars. I had like seven 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: Chaco tacos. Welcome into the lounge. The draft is complete 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: and now we're doing our full breakdown of that draft. 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: Cliff Brown is again in for ryme. Make I feel 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: like you're actually more of a regular in a lounge 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: than make it these days. Yeah, I would say so. Well, 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: discussed some contract terms here, right right. I think you 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: need to put like your name on the logo. It's 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: basically like the lounge with Garrett and Cliff and then 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: special guest occasional guest Brian make right, Yeah right, I 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: think I think you need to get that into your contract. 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: So make his out. He had a baby, so congrat 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: Ryan and his wife Kristen h so very happy for them. 21 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: But his absence means that Cliff and I have got 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: to keep the lights on around here. It goes on. 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: He didn't have great timing. Baby was born the first 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: round of the draft. The morning of I knew it 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: would happen. Oh, it was classic. It was classic the 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: morning of the first round of the draft. Um, so 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: it was an exciting weekend. Um. We don't need to 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: run through every single pick. Obviously fans know by now 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: what the Ravens have done. But to me, the biggest 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: thing that stands out with this draft is just the 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: influx of speed and talent and electricity to the offensive 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: side of the ball. So we're gonna get into that. 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: But before we do, we always like to get from 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: here from you guys. So we've got an audio question. 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Is this your first time dealing with an 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: audio question? It is nice. So as always, you guys 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: can email us the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: net And this question is from Lauren Baker. So, Marquis Brown, 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: first round draft pick, played in the same Pop Warner 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: league as Lamar Jackson and against him, I believe. Likewise, 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: Willie Snead played for the same Pop Warner coach as 42 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Lamar and the same team, I believe one year separated. 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: They all grew up knowing each other and knowing of 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: each other. Likewise, the Ravens picked UH Louisville by receiver 45 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, who was basically uh Lamar's security blanket for 46 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: a couple of years at Louisville. Now, if you add 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: an addition to these picks, um Ben Powers guard from 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: Oklahoma who played for several years alongside Anton Sorry, alongside 49 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, Um and Mark Edwards, we basically have half 50 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: of the offensive line if you count tight ends as 51 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: being part of the offensive language. They are uh that 52 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: the Sooners had. So given the familiarity between Lamar Jackson 53 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: and the wide receiving corps and the filamiliarity between all 54 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: of these new offensive linemen, how do you think that 55 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: will translate into Ravens play and success moving forward? Alright, So, Cliff, 56 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: what do you think Lauren basically pointed out all these 57 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: different connections between Lamar and Hollywood and Willie Sneed or 58 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Linda Brown, all these different guys, a lot of them. 59 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Well does that actually matter? Will that help? It can't hurt? 60 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: And I think it helps a little in that we 61 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: know some of the personalities, big personalities that this team 62 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: has lost this offseason and actually the last several off seasons. 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: So there is a new chemistry in the locker room 64 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: with Lamar being the franchise quarterback and a lot of 65 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: young players in the locker room. So I do think 66 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: it's a good thing that some of these guys know 67 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: each other before they even got here. There are a 68 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: lot of friendships that are already built in relationships trust level. 69 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think it's a key as far 70 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: as you know, winning you know, three or four extra games, 71 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: but as far as them building chemistry as this new group, 72 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: new phases of Ravens comes in, Yeah, I do think 73 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: it's a good thing. It's an interesting thing that so 74 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: many of these guys have some type of connection, whether 75 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: it be through college or even going back to Pe. 76 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: It is a fascinating dynamic. You brought up something that's 77 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a very interesting point and it's 78 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: not necessarily related to the draft, although it's connected, which 79 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: is the dynamic and the chemistry in the locker room, 80 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: it just feels like a completely different team. Like when 81 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: we're sitting down at lunch and you see the players, 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: the dominant personalities of the past five some ten years 83 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: are gone. Like Drill Sugs kind of took up all 84 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: the air in the room when he walked in the room, 85 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: and not saying that in a bad way, he just did. 86 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: He was a dominant personality. Joe had a very committing 87 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: person absolutely erict like C. J. Mosley was quiet, but 88 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: everyone sort of looked at him as like defensive leader. 89 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: So like when I sit in the cafeteria and it's 90 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Orlanda Brown and Mark Andrews and Lamar Jackson and Gus Edwards, 91 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: it's just a totally different vibe it is and it's 92 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: their team. I mean, people talking about being Lamar's team, 93 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: and obviously you always say that about the quarterback, but 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: he goes beyond that. It's their team. Now it's these 95 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: young guys. For the most part, you still have yonda 96 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: obviously you know Tony Jefferson, the name who comes to 97 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: my own defense, who have vet guys who've been around. 98 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: I think Earl Thomas is going to be kind of 99 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: an instant leader who wasn't here. But as you said, 100 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: there are so many young players who are going to 101 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: play a prominent role in a leadership role, whether you 102 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: whether you're comfortable with that or not. Sometimes, like Lamar 103 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: has to be a leader because he's a quarterback, the 104 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: position you play. If you play a prominent role on 105 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: this team, then guys kind of looked to you to 106 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: be a leader when that comes naturally to you or not. So, yeah, 107 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: it is going to be interesting to see who emerges, 108 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: which players emerging those roles as we move forward with 109 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. In talking with some of the defensive guys 110 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: this week, Tony Jefferson, Uh, Peanut. They did a Facebook 111 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: live with us this week and someone asked them basically, 112 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: how was Earl Thomas taken over as a leader on 113 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: this team? And this is what I've seen to just 114 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: in passing, but they basically said that Earl's kind of 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: feeling things out. It's still early, so like he from 116 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: everything that I've seen, quiet serious, down to business. Um, 117 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: but I think that the leadership piece that's probably gonna 118 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: come really once they get on the field in training camp, 119 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 1: Like he's sort of just getting the field of things, 120 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: getting to know the guys before he comes in here 121 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: and starts bossing people around, Like that's not his style. 122 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, you get respect obviously by what you do 123 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: on the field. That helped Lamar. I thought about a 124 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: lot last year and that when he got on the field, 125 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: he made things happen, and so immediately guys can rally 126 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: around that because they want to win and because he's 127 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: doing things that are helping them win. Same thing with 128 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. Uh, you know, really keeping my fingers crossed. 129 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: And he'll be healthy, because I think as long as 130 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: he's healthy, he'll play well. That's always been the case 131 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: his entire career. When he's on the field, he makes 132 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: things happen. And as soon as he starts doing that 133 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: in practice and in games, these guys know what a 134 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: good player he is, what a great player he is, 135 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: but they've never actually seen it every day. And I 136 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: think when they start seeing it then that will make 137 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: him again more of an instant leader along those lines too. 138 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: Like I've noticed, Lamar just seems more comfortable in his 139 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: own skin. I thought he did a really good job 140 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: last year of kind of being respectful of the awkward 141 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: dynamic that existed because he was the first round pick 142 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: and Joe was here. And Lamar did a really good 143 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: job navy aating that kind of quiet kind of spoken 144 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: when spoken to and all those things. All right, so 145 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: let's talk a little draft. We haven't even really discussed 146 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: the draft because you can have a whole bunch of 147 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: of new guys Hollywood Brown. So he's someone that we've 148 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking about and admittedly, well, 149 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: first of all, Make and Eye didn't do great on 150 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: mock drafts. He hit, he hit Justice Hill, so I'll 151 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: give him credit for that. Um totally was off on 152 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Ferrell pick. He had him going to the Ravens. Uh, 153 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: he's gone at two or at four him. Sorry, no 154 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: one saw that coming. Um. I had a J. Brown 155 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: in the first round, but I had the Ravens trading 156 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: back to get him. He doesn't go until midway through 157 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: the second, so miss by me. However, I will say 158 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: that both of us kind of pointed out that a J. 159 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Brown could very well be the pick when we had 160 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: Georties on the podcast, Make laid out and I was 161 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: in agreement with how he laid it out, which is 162 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: we could see the Ravens liking a J. Brown or sorry, 163 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: liking Marcus Brown, liking the speed, liking the explosiveness, like 164 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: the big playability, and they clearly did and we kind 165 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: of were on the side of saying both make and 166 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: I felt like A. J. Brown was our favorite receiver 167 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons, but we understood the attraction 168 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: to Marquise. So the Ravens obviously go with Marquise Um 169 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: and everyone that you talked to seem to think that 170 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: this guy is the best receiver in the draft. Like 171 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: every analyst I was out in Nashville, Daniel Jeremiah best 172 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: case scenario for the Ravens with the good receiver Marquise Brown, 173 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Charles Davis, same thing. Like everyone that you talked to 174 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: seem to think Markis was the home run for the Ravens, right, 175 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: And I think it plays into the Ravens being determined 176 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: to get playmakers out of his draft. You know, A J. 177 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: Brown may be a fine receiver on the pro level, 178 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: but does he have the upside to make splash the 179 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: way Marks Brown does. A J. Brown was like a 180 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: high floor, lower ceiling guy, like good player, but maybe 181 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: not a lecture where Marquis is a little a bit more, 182 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more risky in the sense of the 183 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: size and the foot, but the upside is tremendous, right exactly. 184 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want the pickup truck or will 185 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: you pay a little more for Ferrari. That's what the 186 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Ravens decided to do. They're going, you know, top of 187 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: the line playmaker. You know, same thing with Justice Hill, 188 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: the running back. I mean they wanted a back out 189 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: of his draft that could take a ball, you know, 190 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: a handoff and if he got a crease and got 191 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: a second that could take it to the house. Not 192 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: just th yard runs. They have guys who can do that. 193 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: They want big plays. They were determined, So, yes, is 194 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: it riskier to me it is to take a receiver 195 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: like Marquis who obviously has the speed and playmaking ability, 196 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: but it's coming off this frank and it's undersize. Or 197 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: do you take a guy who might be safer, but 198 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: even at his best, is never going to give you 199 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: the big plays that Markis could because he just doesn't 200 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: have the speed. So they were determined in this I 201 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: have to get playmakers and they did. The thing that 202 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: I liked about the cost of strategy is that he 203 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: wasn't scared. He wasn't scared by the fact that Marquis 204 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: had the foot injury and he's a smaller guy like 205 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: that probably scared some teams off, but it didn't for 206 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens. And he's not scared by the fact that 207 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens have had their struggles and drafting wide receivers. 208 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: He took two of his first three picks. Like, I 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: just liked that he came into this draft and he said, 210 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to build the best team and came 211 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: in with a clear strategy, speed, offensive playmaking ability. The 212 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: other thing too, that I don't think we've talked about 213 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: enough is the Ravens wanted to use this draft to 214 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: add different players and they already had. So here's what 215 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean by that, Marquis Brown, that they don't have 216 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: that speed, electric playmaker on offense. So at that position, 217 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: then when they come back wh when I was working, Yes, 218 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: he's got speed, but different type of receivers size, Like 219 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: he's the big body receiver, which he kind of moves 220 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: into that crab Tree role from last year. Who but 221 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: he's got more explosiveness, more juice than Crabtree. You hope 222 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: that he has better hands than Crabs he had last year. 223 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: So like but Justice Hill running back, but a much 224 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: different running back than they already had. In the back room, 225 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: I like the fact that they took a let's trying 226 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: to find complimentary pieces compared to just a guy at 227 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: that position, right, And they want to be the type 228 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: of team that can hurt you in so many ways, 229 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: even if you take away the running game. Now we're 230 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna hit you over the top. You know, if you 231 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: if you sleep on our speed, then we can get 232 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: physical with you. The more things you can do, that's 233 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: that's what John Hardball said after the draft, the more 234 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: things you can do, and I think that goes Greg 235 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Romans comment after the draft of good they're talking about 236 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: we're only limited by our imagination. They want to be creative, versatile, unpredictable, 237 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: but effect if. And that's that's a really high bar 238 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: because some teams are just comfortable and saying this is 239 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: who we are, this is what we do. You can't 240 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: stop us. But if you don't have a plan B, 241 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: then that makes you limited. The Ravens want to be Yes, 242 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: we have an identity, were physical, We run the football, 243 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: but we can also kill you with a big place. 244 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: We also have a great defense. When you have all 245 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: those things, you know, then you become you know, I 246 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: love boxing like an ali Like it doesn't matter what 247 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: you try and do to me, you know, I have 248 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: an answer. The Ravens want to have an offensive answer 249 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: for everything, and they're building trying to build a team 250 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: that can produce that. Who did you have in your 251 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: mock I had, I wouldn't say, Hi, Cody Ford. I 252 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: thought Cody Ford would be yeah, and then I know 253 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens liked him. But again, they had a chance 254 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: to get a playmaker. Sure, they wanted to upgrade the 255 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: offensive line, and then they came back later, you know, 256 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: and got somebody got a fourth round you know, offensive linement, 257 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: but for the number one pick, with Marques being there, 258 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: they just couldn't pass it up. Well, it's kind of like, 259 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: so if you were to flip that, say they take 260 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Cody Ford in the first round and then they tried 261 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: to address the receiver position in the fourth. I think 262 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: that the difference that you're getting in Marquees compared to 263 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: the receiver you're kidding the fourth is night and day 264 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: compared to Cody Ford to Ben Powers, absolutely not even close. Absolutely, 265 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, on paper, what they did makes a lot 266 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: of sense because they didn't have a playmaker. Their offensive 267 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: line is good, they wanted to be better but they 268 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: have a solid offensive line, but they did not have 269 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: anything close to a playmaker with Marquis Brown's potential. What 270 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: do you think of your first draft? Here in the 271 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: castle on sitting where we sit with all the ice cream? 272 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: How many ice cream bars did you eat this weekend? 273 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: Because that's always my favorite part of draft weekend. You're 274 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: all kind of crowded in the room. You spend all 275 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: the time hurry up and wait. It's a big game 276 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: of hurry up and wait because you're you're sitting around 277 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: all day Friday, especially this year, the first round, the 278 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: second round starts at seven. The Ravens aren't on the 279 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: clock until like ten o'clock on Friday. You're just sitting 280 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: here and waiting and waiting and waiting. They bring out 281 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: all this junk food. There's chicken wings, there's ice cream bars. 282 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: I had like seven chaco tacos. We'll see. I'm an 283 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: o G So first of all, I can't eat all 284 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: that ice cream, and every everyone around me in the 285 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: draft room should be happy. I didn't have a whole 286 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: bunch of ice creak. However, Reese's peanut butter cubs on 287 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: my weak weakness, so there were there was a trail 288 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: of a couple of rappers and resas around my desk 289 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: by the twing in the fourth and fifth round, because yeah, 290 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: you're just sitting there and I gotta kick out of 291 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: Eric the exactly like he was even doing it upstairs, right. 292 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: And it was also revealing quote to me when he 293 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: said he didn't think that they would trade away their 294 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: second round pick anytime soon unless they got a great player, 295 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: because yeah, obviously that's a pig. You're expecting that player 296 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: to help you for a long time time, they didn't 297 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: have a second round pick. They tried to move up, 298 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: the price was too high. So yeah, I think he 299 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: came out of his draft feeling, you know what, if 300 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: I ever give up another second round, or it's going 301 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: to be something for somebody really good, or else I'm 302 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: not doing it. Speaking of that second round, it's pretty 303 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: remarkable that the Ravens I think got Jalen Ferguson near 304 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: the end of the third round. I honestly really debated 305 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: taking him in my mock draft. I didn't. I took 306 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: O'Shane Zimenez in my third round because I thought there 307 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: was no way that Jalen Ferguson was going to be there. 308 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: I just felt like he was a definite second round pick, 309 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: maybe even the backhand of the first. If some team 310 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: got enamored with his production to college, I was like, 311 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: there's no way this guy is there middle to late 312 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: third round. And I think that you can see the 313 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: excitement from the defensive coaches. I mean, that was a 314 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: that was I think the biggest need on defense, pass rusher, 315 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: much more than inside linebacker, and they got a guy 316 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: who is an immediate impact player he could be. I 317 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: mean sacks, that's has been the sack daddy. That's that's 318 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: all he did in college. Let's gets sacks. So you 319 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: know he has a physical tools to do it. To me, 320 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see how quickly he can 321 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: make the adjustment. I mean, at this level, obviously all 322 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: the offensive linemen are better. Technique is way more important. 323 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was just physically better than some people 324 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: he lined up against last year and they just didn't 325 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: have the ability to keep him out of backfield. At 326 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: the NFL level, obviously it's not going to be the case. 327 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: And are the people who passed him passed by him 328 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: didn't take him, were they right or do they make 329 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: a huge mistake letting the Ravens get him in the 330 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: third round because everyone loves pass rushers. I mean, this 331 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: is not a team in the league we we have, 332 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: we have two many pass rushers. We don't need him, 333 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: so that exactly. So it's interesting, you know, he felt 334 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens are fortunate. I think they got it steel, 335 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: but obviously some teams don't feel that way because if 336 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: this guy is getting you know, ten to twelve sacks 337 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: a year, there's gonna be other jail managers and other 338 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: people saying, why didn't you guys take them? Yeah? Yeah, Well, 339 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have I don't know if he's gonna 340 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: start from week one, but he's certainly gonna have an 341 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to start from week one because outside of you've 342 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: got Matthew jude On, who's going to be in the 343 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: starting lineup on the other side of him wide open. 344 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you got Jalen Ferguson. The Ravens hope that 345 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: Tius Bowser and Tim Williams elevate their play. They can 346 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: still I think if the Ravens add a veteran, I 347 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: still think why or outside linebacker is the spot where 348 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: that's most likely to happen. They has Niging on site 349 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: in here before the draft. He hasn't signed yet, We'll 350 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: see what happens there. He's reportedly taking some other visits, 351 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: so maybe he comes here, maybe he doesn't. But pass 352 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: rusher to me still seems like the spot where if 353 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: they're going to add a veteran, that would be the 354 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: position to do so. But even if they don't, like 355 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: let's just say they don't and they roll with Ferguson. 356 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: This is a guy that like would be expected to 357 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: have I don't know, minimum of six sacks next year. 358 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: Well you would think so, um, And I mean you've 359 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: been here a long time. One of the beauty is 360 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: about this team and John Harball his leadership is whoever 361 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: earns the playing time is gonna be out there. It's 362 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: not gonna be based on the fact that, well, we 363 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: drafted this guy third round and so we need to 364 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: get him on the field. The competition in spring ball, 365 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: training camp, preseason, it's gonna be real and it's gonna 366 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: be interesting because certainly at that spot they're looking for 367 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: people to step for who wants it. Basically, if you're 368 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: a pass rusher on this team, you know obviously, you 369 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: know Matthew Judin's he's on you know, constant. You know 370 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be there. Other than that, the doors wide 371 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: open on the offensive line, you know, left guard. I mean, 372 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be competition for the starting spot. The top 373 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: player is gonna earn it. So it's gonna be fun 374 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: to watch. Are going to be meaningful every practice, what 375 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: you put on tape, how you come to work every day, 376 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: that's going to determine who the pass rushers are in 377 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: The Ravens need people to step up, obviously, after what 378 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: they lost in the past rusher you know which Sugs 379 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: and Zarius Smith. They need guys to step up there. 380 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: They want to be able to pressure the quarterback without blitzing. 381 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: They don't want to have to manufacture you know, blitzes 382 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: and pressure on quarterback. They can, but they'd rather not 383 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: play that way. So here's a question. How many of 384 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: these guys, let's say by week eight, not by week one, 385 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: by week eight are in the starting lineup. How many 386 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: of these rookie is because there's a ton of like 387 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: this was a need draft. I think like this was 388 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: a draft. It satisfied a ton of needs. How many 389 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: of these guys, You've got Hollywood, Jalen Ferguson, Miles Boykin, 390 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: Justice Hill, Ben Powers beyond that, you know mc sorley 391 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: obviously is gonna be in the starting line Um, who 392 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: am I missing there in the fifth on a marm 393 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: Marshall fourth round pick. He's not going to be in 394 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: the starting lineup. How many of these guys are starters? Well, 395 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: obviously Markey's once he's healthy. Yeah, he's gonna be. I'll 396 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: be shocked if he's not a big part of offense. 397 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a starter week one. 398 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah he's healthy, because like like if it's not him, 399 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: are you are you gonna say Chris Moore and Seth 400 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: Roberts are starting over him. Willy Steve Willi Stee is 401 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: going to be a key piece of this offense. But 402 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: Marks Brown is gonna be a starter week one if 403 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: he's as long, big caveat, as long as he's healthy 404 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: and the indication is that he's gonna be ready to 405 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: go to start a training camp. Yeah. Well it's funny 406 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: too because somebody I'm still feeling like they could add 407 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: a veteran li I receiver. You keep saying that I 408 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: don't know if I buy that, all right, I know 409 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't, and I don't know, you know, 410 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking, like again, just because you drafted 411 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: Mark's knowing that he's coming off an injury, knowing that 412 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: that position, there's gonna be real competition. If there's a 413 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: guy who comes available, you know how the first round 414 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: of cuts, you know the team's made. Why not, I mean, 415 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 1: why not, particularly somebody who's y'all either younger and can 416 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: grow over more or older in that you know what 417 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: you're getting because they don't need a they don't need 418 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: a thousand yard receiver. They're not trying to hit big 419 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: on a receiver. If they were to do that, just 420 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: somebody who's a professional receiver, you can get open. But yeah, 421 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: go back to the original question. Yeah, after mar Keys 422 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean I think the starting right tackle 423 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: of left guard, that's why it opens. So that could 424 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: be another spot where a rookie would come in and start. 425 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: Um who else and Ferguson, Yeah, Ferguson obviously could if 426 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: we be powers left guard powers have the shot. I 427 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: would say this is week like, that's that's you know, 428 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: Week one could be different. But yeah, look what they 429 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: did with Orlando start week one. I think it could 430 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: be a similar situation with Ben Powers. You could have 431 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: you can have any combination of Alex Lewis or James Hurst, 432 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: Germano Lumin or somebody like that in a left guard. 433 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: They don't think he's ready right away, right, Bozeman could 434 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: potentially be a left guard if he's not your starting center. 435 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: Any combination of those guys can be a left guard. 436 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: And then I think eventually Ben Powers moves into that 437 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: right maybe after to buy you know, much like Orlando. 438 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean Orlando. They liked him honestly from day one. 439 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I didn't want to throw him in right away. He 440 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: continued to work, he continued to improve, and even after 441 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: he started, you know, when he originally started. To me, 442 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't like a lot. Okay, he's the guy, period, 443 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: Let's see how we think he's ready, and let's see 444 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: how he does then once he got out the field 445 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: of like okay, right, right, um, Yeah, I think it'll 446 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: be three of these guys. Boy Can. My expectation for 447 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: boy Can this year is kind of situational, Like I 448 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: would say that like he could maybe be used as 449 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: a red zone guy. I think a lot of it 450 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: depends on how Chris Moore continues to develop. Um Wakn 451 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: has the size that The other one is Julil Scott, 452 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: who last year was a fifth round pick out of 453 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: New Mexico State and then the end of the season 454 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: before it even started, spent the entire year and injured reserve. 455 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly what you can account for 456 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: count on from him, but I feel like that is 457 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit of a competition between 458 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: Julie Scott Miles Boykin. So I think he's kind of situational, 459 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: not a huge role right. Well, Traditionally, the y receire 460 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: position is one of the harder positions to make the 461 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: transition from college of bro I mean, if you're a 462 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: stud like Julio Jones and there's other guys it doesn't matter, 463 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: but you know, the cover the corners are so much better, 464 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: the passing rounds are more complex. So for a guy 465 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 1: like Boykin, it may take him a little longer just 466 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: because of his position. Then a Jalen Ferguson where Ian 467 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: Fergus is not doing the other things well, like setting 468 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: the edge and playing run defense, just hey, go get 469 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback where he could just come man and having 470 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: to me the impact, it's gonna be harder I think 471 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: for Boy can to do that. So and Boy gets 472 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of a late starter of the position. 473 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: He really only had one year of big production at 474 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. The Ravens kind of talked about that during 475 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: the end of the draft and kind of pointed out, 476 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: this guy's not a project I wouldn't say that far, 477 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: but a little bit more. He's a little bit more raw, 478 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: not quite as refined, and needs some development. And so 479 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: if he in the first half of the year isn't 480 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: getting a ton of production, maybe he comes along strong 481 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: late in the year and make some big catches down 482 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: the stretch. That's that's kind of how I can see 483 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: it going. The other one, that last guy I really 484 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about is Mixed Sortley, because I was 485 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: surprised when mcstory's name comes across the board as Baltimore's 486 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: final pick um. And I just did a radio interview actually, 487 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: and the question was the Ravens have talked about using 488 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: him as like it's tysom Hill, that's the cop but 489 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: what's the benefit of using The question to me was, 490 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: what's the benefit of using him in that role when 491 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: you already have the R. Jackson, Because Lamar can do 492 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: all those tastes of hillish things. He's already on the field, 493 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: He's faster, he can do all those things. So like, 494 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: what what does Trace McSorley give you that somebody else 495 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: does it? Well? That doesn't Well, first of all, I 496 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: guess my answer that would be, you don't have to 497 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: change any part offense. You can just keep doing what 498 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: you do. Uh. If you put him in for in 499 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: certain situations, then you're doing the same things that Lamar 500 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: would do. Lamar may do that, may he does them better, 501 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: but it's not an adjustment for the offense. Heaven forbid. 502 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: If you've got in the situation where Lamar got hurt um, 503 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: then you know and say r G three was your 504 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: starter now and Mac surely had to see the field again, 505 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be as much of an adjustment. Also, he's 506 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: a tremendous athlete. So even though obviously he wants to 507 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: play quarterback. To Raven say they draft him at the quarterback, 508 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: and I believe them. The fact that he can do 509 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: other things makes him more attractive, thick than and saying 510 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: someone who you just know, if he can't play quarterback, 511 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: he can't help you at all. So who knows where 512 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: it makes? Surely made show I made, show up on 513 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: special teams. If he sticks on the roster, you could 514 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: show up there. He could be kept. I think, you know, 515 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see if they would keep three 516 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks like they did last year. Most most teams don't. 517 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: But if he shows enough to help them in other 518 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: areas beside quarterback, then obviously that improves his chances o roster. Right, 519 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: And that was kind of my answer when I did 520 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: a radio interview, was the Ravens saw a good player there. 521 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who is incredibly productive 522 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: at Penn State, broke just about every single record, attitude, competitive, 523 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: he's an asset and so you just want good players 524 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: on your football team there, and that's what mcstorally is. 525 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: So is he gonna be in a role where he 526 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: has ten plays a game. I think there could be 527 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: weeks where he doesn't. First of all, he hasn't made 528 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: the team yet, that's correct, So like I don't think 529 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: it's a foregone conclusion that he's on the three man roster. 530 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: Got to prove himself in training camp. In the preseasons. 531 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: But if he gets in the three man roster, I 532 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: think he could have games or he doesn't play at all, 533 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: he could have games where he's one of three plays 534 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: a game. He could be on special teams. Like if 535 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: you put them on special teams, you almost have an 536 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: immediate fake built into what you're doing. I mean that's 537 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: like an immediate option. Um. And then you can just 538 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: find some creative ways to use him. It goes back 539 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: to the Greg Roman court. What was You're only limited 540 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: by your creativity, right, by your imagination, by your imagination, right. 541 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, they look at this guys like, wow, he's 542 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: a football player, he's an athlete, smart, tough, Yeah, why not? Yeah? Alright, 543 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a fun time right now. And uh, Cliff, 544 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: thank you for filling in again for me anytime, any 545 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: times seem like a lot of times. I love it, 546 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: No problem, And as always, you guys can reach us 547 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Next 548 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: week we have an interview with Marshall yonda Yes, which 549 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: which is going to be something that I take a 550 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: lot of fans will be interested to hear. Yanda has 551 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: never done the podcast before, so I think fans will 552 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: really enjoy that. I know they will. The teasers make 553 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: and Eye talked to him, and Marsha was tremendous. I think, 554 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the person we all respect, and he's 555 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: been here a long time, but he definitely talked about 556 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: some things that I've never heard him talking about before, 557 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 1: and I think fans will really enjoy it. All right, 558 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: so let's it for us. Thanks for listening, guys, and 559 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: we will be back with you next week.