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Speaker 1: Endy Klou with us. But Johnny big news right out

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Speaker 1: of the gate, and we talked about this all off season.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen with number twelve, Nico Collins twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one draft choice, the Texans signing Stefan Diggs in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: That's just a one year arrangement between those two parties.

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Speaker 1: But Nico homegrown Texan if you will, I know, not

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Speaker 1: homegrown in Texas, but a Texans product because you drafted

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Speaker 1: him third round in twenty twenty one, and he has

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Speaker 1: been inked to an extension reportedly three more years after

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Speaker 1: this when it goes through twenty twenty seven. And that

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Speaker 1: is fantastic news, my friend. Good evening, Yeah, it is

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Speaker 1: absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 2: News.

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Speaker 3: I am as big a Nico Collins fan as there is,

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Speaker 3: and I saw him in a cafeteria today.

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Speaker 4: And it was just it was just awesome.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know, we didn't know this was happening. We

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Speaker 2: didn't We had no idea that this was going on.

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Speaker 4: It was reported very very.

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Speaker 2: Late in the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: But we did have happen to see some of the

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Speaker 3: particulars that were involved in making this.

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Speaker 5: Deal happy, and they were writing it and writing it

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Speaker 5: out in the West vip or the West Lobby as

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Speaker 5: this storm was hitting, and this storm was unbelievable, and

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Speaker 5: I just happened to go by and.

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Speaker 2: Went, oh, hey, I know him. And then a.

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Speaker 3: Few hours later that particular individual negotiated a contract extension

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Speaker 3: for Nico.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Dina Rassini.

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Speaker 3: You had it first, and now it's blown up in

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Speaker 3: a lot of places.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned numbers.

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Speaker 3: Actually I found out the Senior Bowl tagged me, so

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Speaker 4: Soet's good.

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Speaker 3: But I find what I find interesting about Nico is

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Speaker 3: and I think about that Senior Bowl. He had not

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Speaker 3: played football in an entire year, and he goes to

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl and you could just see him shaking

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Speaker 3: off Russ, shaking off Russ. And it was finally, like

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Speaker 3: the third day he started to see him. Okay, he's

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Speaker 3: starting to get his sea legs underneath him. And we

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Speaker 3: see it. You could see it. There not a lot

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Speaker 3: of people wanted to believe that. Man, They didn't want

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Speaker 3: to believe that. I'm like, man, if you give him,

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Speaker 3: you know, an opportunity. He's got to stay healthy. He

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Speaker 3: worked on that. He's got to be better after the catch.

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Speaker 3: He worked on that. He's got to be more consistent.

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Speaker 4: He worked on it.

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Speaker 2: He worked on all those things.

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Speaker 3: And now one of the sweetest guys you've ever want

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Speaker 3: extended three years. As the money is seventy two and

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Speaker 3: fifty two million guaranteed. And here's I said this to

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Speaker 3: somebody today we're kind of talking about this. I said,

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Speaker 3: the number is gonna be, and it's still you can

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Speaker 3: finish that contract before CJ is gonna start his contract

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Speaker 3: with big money. If Obviously things continue where we think

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Speaker 2: So you get Nico on a three year deal, you

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Speaker 2: still are not paying CJ. Stroud his big money yet.

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Speaker 4: So I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love the deal.

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Speaker 3: He is now one of the top ten highest paid

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Speaker 3: receivers in the league. He's making an average about twenty

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Speaker 3: four point two million. That's seventh among wide receivers. He's

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Speaker 3: But man, getting Nico Collins at that number, I think

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Speaker 1: When you mentioned top ten contract, reportedly, Nico seventh in

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Speaker 1: the question is can you do it consistently.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: He proved he could stay healthy this year by and large.

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Speaker 1: I know it wasn't every single game, but he played

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Speaker 1: in fifteen games, and I'll take fifteen for most players

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Speaker 1: take fifteen games. Now, you prefer your quarterback doesn't miss anything,

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Speaker 1: We'll go to eighteen at some point. But here we

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Speaker 1: out of the twenty four campaign, Nico Collins was set

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Speaker 1: to become a free agent. You don't have the fifth

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Speaker 1: year option. You could have franchised him, perhaps, but you

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Speaker 1: don't want to have any of that hanging over your head.

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Speaker 1: You could have gone into next offseason without Collins and

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Speaker 1: your receiving crew without those two individuals. Well, now you

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Speaker 1: know you have Nico passed this year, you still have Tank,

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Speaker 1: But let's get fired up for twenty twenty four. And

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Speaker 1: I think not having the contract be an issue be

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Speaker 1: saying people were gonna pepper him every single week about it,

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Speaker 1: during the season. Well, they don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: any of that now. It takes it away and it's

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Speaker 1: a day of celebration really that you have Nico Collins

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely, I love this. I'm just a huge fan

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Speaker 3: of Nico the individual. I'm a huge fan of him

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Speaker 3: on the field. And I said this the first couple

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Speaker 2: And you saw that.

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Speaker 2: But then he makes even more plays after that.

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Speaker 3: Mark He makes a ton, he makes that diving catch

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Speaker 2: And he go makes that catch. He makes the catch

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Speaker 3: Where he runs away from Zyre Franklin runs over Jalen

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Speaker 3: over the biggest game that we've played in I don't

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Speaker 3: know how many ever years he took it over, and

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Speaker 3: the Colts had no answers whatsoever. And he had games

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Speaker 3: like that throughout the year, but he did it in

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Speaker 2: Get in the playoff game.

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Speaker 3: You throw that screen, that kind of counter screen, you

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Speaker 2: He can do so.

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Speaker 3: Many things in this passing game. And honestly, I feel

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Speaker 3: look at this and think this is a bargain in

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Speaker 1: So happy about that, Johnny, And we'll talk more about

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Speaker 1: nd throughout the show.

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Speaker 2: But right now some time spent with.

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Speaker 1: A good friend of ours, the host of Texans Ogs,

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Speaker 1: Texans preseason TV color commentator and d Kalu Texans legend,

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Speaker 1: twelve year NFL veteran Eagles, Washington, Houston, San Antonio.

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Speaker 6: Guy, Great to have you with us, n.

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Speaker 4: D Always great to be here, Always great.

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Speaker 7: The legend term, I know that's the official name for

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Speaker 7: US former players, but it always sounds weird when I

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Speaker 7: think Houston Texans only think one legend, and that's Andre Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Andy le Man, ask you is Mark was ribbing through

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Speaker 3: the names he goes Eagles, Texans, Washington.

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Speaker 4: When you when you.

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Speaker 3: Talk to people, people ask hey, who'd you play for

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Speaker 3: the Redskins? Do you tell me you played for Washington?

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Speaker 3: Like how do you?

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Speaker 2: How politically correct are you when you give that answer?

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Speaker 4: I still say Redskins.

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Speaker 7: And it's not that I'm, you know, trying to disrespect

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Speaker 7: To this day, I still think that was the best

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Speaker 7: I thought about the power I thought about the uh,

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Speaker 7: I didn't think of the negative aspect, but I respect it.

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Speaker 7: So when I catch myself, yeah, I'll say Washington. I'll

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Speaker 7: never say Commanders, but if I don't say Redskins, then

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Speaker 3: So a lot of a lot of foreign players will have,

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Speaker 2: Do you have you have Washington helmet?

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Speaker 7: Probably displayed absolutely for every team that I played, from Rice, Houston, Texas,

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Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles, Washington. I have it displayed up in the

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Speaker 7: I that I ever played. I don't have any like

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Speaker 7: pictures or trophies of just those helps, just those helmets.

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Speaker 7: That's your trophy. That he's the trophy.

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Speaker 1: You just gave it away. You have a movie room,

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Speaker 1: media room. A lot of homes have these things. How

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Speaker 1: much time do you actually spend in there watching movies

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Speaker 7: a waste of time and money. I should say it

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Speaker 7: because when we first my wife made me get a pool,

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Speaker 7: and we've had it for about four years, and I

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Speaker 7: could probably I'm not exaggerating. Count both hands how many

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Speaker 7: times we've actually been in the pool the movie room.

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Speaker 7: I decked it out and I built them when I

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Speaker 7: Now I decked it out and with kids and family,

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Speaker 7: my son probably gets more out of it than I do.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I it was such a great concept.

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Speaker 7: But you know what, you brought up a good point, Mark,

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get to the topic du jour,

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Speaker 6: Here we are n D and OTAs.

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Speaker 1: You tell us what do players get from OTAs, How

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Speaker 7: It depends on where you are in your career. You know,

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Speaker 3: So how much and maybe this is the same answer Indy,

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Speaker 3: Did you experiment with those certain things? I know back

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Speaker 7: No. Absolutely, Again, it goes to the first part of

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Speaker 4: I'm going to do it.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna do it to the best of my ability

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Speaker 7: what they're specifically asking for. After you signed that contract

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Speaker 7: That's what I'm going to work on during these OTAs.

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Speaker 7: And you nailed it. Not to be the old back

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Speaker 4: I mean, we did one on ones.

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Speaker 7: We pretty much got after it, so you could actually

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, you being a veteran and a great

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Speaker 1: get to this Pellisero story about the possibility of changing

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Speaker 4: Johnny So.

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Speaker 3: The NFL Players Association right now is working to finalize

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Speaker 2: Is interesting.

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Speaker 3: The NFLPA push for revised offseason isn't directly tied to

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Speaker 4: I hate it. I hate it.

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Speaker 7: You know, in one breath, as a player, we want

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Speaker 7: You know, if you're lucky two weeks out of the year,

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Speaker 7: while you're on the roster. Oh well, you're getting paid,

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Speaker 4: Like and I get it.

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Speaker 7: I understand, get as much as you can in this

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Speaker 3: It does appear we're getting to eighteen games. Would you

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Speaker 3: So eighteen games, what would that be like on your body?

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Speaker 3: And when you think back, it's just two more games.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts in eighteen games.

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Speaker 4: More money in your pocket.

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Speaker 7: I personally it kind of goes against what I said earlier.

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Speaker 7: If you can't figure out a way to fly up

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Speaker 3: You Andy, when do you remember there being a focus

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Speaker 3: on nutritionness, individual trainers, you know, whatever, the you know

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Speaker 3: massuse is like I remember reading about Roger Craig getting

444
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Speaker 3: massages after games when he was with the Niners, and

445
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Speaker 3: that was in the late eighties. But I feel like

446
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Speaker 3: this like each player's got kind of a team of people,

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Speaker 3: and I don't remember that.

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Speaker 2: I I don't remember how far back that goes.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that happening and seeing it kind of

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Speaker 3: in the locker room, like guys that had kind of

451
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Speaker 3: I don't call him entourages, that kind of gives it

452
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Speaker 3: a bad connotation, but like a team around them that

453
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Speaker 3: they would go to, well, I gotta see my masseuse.

454
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Speaker 3: I gotta go to my nutritionists. Do you remember that happening.

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Speaker 7: At that time? It was usually the big money guys.

456
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Speaker 7: I remember when to treell Owens came to Philadelphia. That

457
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Speaker 7: was my first time really seeing it. Like a lot

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Speaker 7: of guys they would utilize massage therapists, but it wouldn't

459
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Speaker 7: be like a part of their team as you saying.

460
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Speaker 7: It was like I'm going to you know, just massage therapist, chiropractors.

461
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Speaker 7: But it was the big money guys. Because even me,

462
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Speaker 7: I know I needed a chiropractor, but I heard it

463
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Speaker 7: was like two hundred bucks an hour.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I'll just suck it up.

465
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Speaker 4: I suck it up.

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Speaker 7: So it was you know, I don't want to name

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Speaker 7: any names outside of to, but when Too first came,

468
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Speaker 7: and he had a positive influence on our lockerown when

469
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Speaker 7: he first came. But he was the first guy that

470
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Speaker 7: you saw had a chef. You know, you saw had

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Speaker 7: would train him with the band workouts, and then when

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Speaker 7: you see his body, You're like, oh, yeah, he's investing

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Speaker 7: in his business. Now it seems like everybody has it,

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Speaker 7: even the low money guys. And I'm okay with that

475
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Speaker 7: because they I do believe today's generation, as far as

476
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Speaker 7: NFL players, they work smarter, if not harder, and they're

477
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Speaker 7: investing in their bodies as if it's their company. And

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Speaker 7: I can respect that.

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Speaker 1: And Dey, when you played the Eagles were one of

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Speaker 1: your teams, Donovan McNabb, the quarterback, went to a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: five NFC championship games.

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Speaker 2: They had that.

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Speaker 6: Run going on.

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Speaker 1: You were part of that era and the team had

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Speaker 1: this target on its back. The team was one of

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Speaker 1: the very best in the league. McNabb one of the

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Speaker 1: best quarterbacks. I know there was a lot of debate

488
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Speaker 1: about his abilities, but my gosh.

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Speaker 6: The results are there to prove it.

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Speaker 1: What was it like having those expectations, especially this time

491
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Speaker 1: of year, offseason leading up as everyone's getting ready individually

492
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Speaker 1: and as a team when they can and then, what

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Speaker 1: can you convey to these players here after having the

494
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Speaker 1: one really really fun, great year that the Texans had,

495
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Speaker 1: but a lot of young guys and they need to

496
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Speaker 1: be able to follow that up against a much tougher schedule.

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Speaker 1: What would you say to them? What can you tell

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Speaker 1: us about that whole dynamic?

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Speaker 7: You know, when we were in Philly, Coach Andy Reid

500
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Speaker 7: did a great job realizing what type of guys had

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Speaker 7: to be in the locker room, you know, to keep

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Speaker 7: that going. And most of the guys, even though like

503
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Speaker 7: you said, we had that very good run up until

504
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Speaker 7: the conference championship games, most years is when we were

505
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Speaker 7: gett knocked out, but we had guys like that was

506
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Speaker 7: just the expectation. That's what we expected. We knew we

507
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Speaker 7: had that target, we were ready for it, and coach

508
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Speaker 7: Reid did such an awesome job as far as delegating responsibility,

509
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Speaker 7: putting in great leaders from the defensive line coach to

510
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Speaker 7: the late Jim Johnson, who was, in my opinion, the

511
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Speaker 7: best defensive coordinator in the game, and the players to

512
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Speaker 7: fit that. You know, we didn't really have big ego guys.

513
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Speaker 7: Brian Dawkins, one of the best safeties to ever play

514
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Speaker 7: the game. You wouldn't know that he was that guy

515
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Speaker 7: by the way he carried himself. As far as work,

516
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Speaker 7: I think you would know. But I'm saying he was

517
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Speaker 7: very humble and he just wanted to win and do

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Speaker 7: it as a And I'm starting to see that and

519
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Speaker 7: I'm not just saying it because we're here on Texan Radio,

520
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Speaker 7: but I see that with this team with Demico Ryans,

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Speaker 7: with the leadership that they've put in place.

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Speaker 4: And then you have c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you talk about Donovan McNabb, who I feel

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Speaker 7: like was a great leader on the offensive side of

525
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Speaker 7: the ball.

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Speaker 4: I see a lot of the same qualities in c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 7: So if you could continue to get the players to

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Speaker 7: buy in, I mean, this run can be as long

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Speaker 7: as we want it to be.

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Speaker 3: And along those lines, and You've mentioned Gary Kubiak, you

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Speaker 3: mentioned Andy Reid, And I'm not saying that Demika Ryans

532
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Speaker 3: is in that class yet He's just coached one year

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. However, it feels like he's got traits

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Speaker 3: from those two particular guys that had an influence on you.

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Speaker 3: We your talks about Demiko and what he is as

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Speaker 3: a coach and how important he is to what this

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Speaker 3: run ends up being.

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Speaker 7: When you look at Demiko and if you know him,

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Speaker 7: you know he's the perfect guy for this position just

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Speaker 7: because of his personality is different, you know, character attributes.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy that's not going to get too high. Now.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna be pumped, right, you know, he's gonna, you know,

543
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Speaker 7: pump his fist and jump up like a player when

544
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Speaker 7: good things happen.

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Speaker 4: On the field.

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Speaker 7: But after a loss, he's not gonna sit up there

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Speaker 7: and try to rearrange their old thought process. After a win,

548
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Speaker 7: he's not gonna kick his feet up on the table

549
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Speaker 7: and light up a cigar and say we've arrived. And

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Speaker 7: I think that's a huge quality when you talk about

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Speaker 7: sustaining success. It's like if you ask de Miko away

552
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Speaker 7: from the cameras, away from the microphone, about last year

553
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Speaker 7: he's probably gonna be disappointed because it didn't end in

554
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Speaker 7: the Super Bowl, but he'll say all the right things

555
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Speaker 7: to keep his guys motivated, and that's what you need

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Speaker 7: to have now.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we'll have more conversation with ND coming up.

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Speaker 6: If you joined us late.

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins reportedly signed to a three year contract extension

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Speaker 1: keeping him with the Texans through twenty twenty seven. More

561
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Speaker 1: on that coming up and more with ND. It's all

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Speaker 1: happening here on Texans Radio. Right back to it here

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio on a day where reportedly Nico Collins

564
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Speaker 1: has agreed to a three year contract extension keeping him

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Speaker 1: with the Texans through twenty twenty seven. The contract reportedly

566
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Speaker 1: a top ten receiver contract in this league.

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Speaker 6: So that's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: As we pointed out in segment one, Nico top ten

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Speaker 1: in yards and yards per catch last year in the

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Speaker 1: NFL receiving Stats department and wants to have a big

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Speaker 1: fourth season. Of course, was gonna be that way either way,

572
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Speaker 1: whether it's contract year or not. But you have digs,

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Speaker 1: you have Nico, you have Tank just for starters here

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Speaker 1: on this receiving corps. We talked about many of the

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Speaker 1: other guys last week when we viewed Ota. So I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to get back out there and see more.

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Speaker 1: And if you miss some of our Nico conversation, that'll

578
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Speaker 1: be up on Houston Texans dot com and the Texans app.

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Speaker 1: Sued Enough, let's get right back to our conversation with

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Speaker 1: n D.

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Speaker 6: Kalu, because I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Talk about a guy who will be coaching a team

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Speaker 1: that's been a nemesis to the Texans, especially at Arrowheads Stadium.

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Speaker 1: I know I must have asked this before, but let's

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Speaker 1: go with this because Andy Reid has evolved as a

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Speaker 1: head coach, or is the evolution simply I have Patrick Mahomes. Now,

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Speaker 1: you tell me how he's changed, if at all, through

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Speaker 1: the years, because you had him two decades ago and

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Speaker 1: he was really successful. Then he's even more successful now.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think he's stuck with his plan.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is a guy that and I'm not

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Speaker 7: privy to seeing what he's saying, what he's doing every

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Speaker 7: day like I did when I played for him for

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Speaker 7: five years. But I don't know. That's a great question mark.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if he's changed or if the success

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Speaker 7: is because he's stuck with his plan, regardless of the

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Speaker 7: outside noise. You know, when he was fired, when they

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Speaker 7: when he was run out of Philadelphia because he didn't

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Speaker 7: win the big game, he was still a great coach.

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Speaker 7: He was still a great coach. And I think he

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Speaker 7: just stuck with his guns. And then you add in

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Speaker 7: a great quarterback in Patrick Mahomes, than the success and

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Speaker 7: the Super Bowls are gonna come. But I just from

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Speaker 7: what I hear from the guys that are still in

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Speaker 7: that inner circle, he hasn't really changed.

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Speaker 4: He's just really stuck with it.

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Speaker 7: I don't care how great of a coach you are,

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Speaker 7: only one person as far as a head coach is

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Speaker 7: going to win the Super Bowl every single year. And

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Speaker 7: there's so many things that are going to influence who

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Speaker 7: that head coach is, from the players, to the system,

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Speaker 7: to the assistant coaches. So you could be doing everything

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Speaker 7: right as a head coach and still not win it.

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Speaker 7: And I think that was the case with Andy Reid

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Speaker 7: and Philadelphia. I you know, I can't say he was

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Speaker 7: a perfect coach or we would have won super Bowls,

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Speaker 7: but he didn't. He was a coach that didn't need

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Speaker 7: to change anything as far as the way he was

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Speaker 7: doing things with us and for whatever reason, you know,

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Speaker 7: the city of Philadelphia, Jeffrey Lowie, who was a good

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Speaker 7: team owner, said it was time for a change. He

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Speaker 7: goes to Kansas City, sticks to his guns. You add,

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Speaker 7: in arguably the best quarterback in the game right now,

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Speaker 7: and you're gonna have some Super Bowl wins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Andy.

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Speaker 3: One of the big big talking points this early Blade

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Speaker 3: sprang whatever timeframe it's been, has been the talk of

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Speaker 3: JJ Watt coming back and coming back to the game.

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Speaker 2: And I've I've always.

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Speaker 3: Said the people you got to ask are the guys

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Speaker 3: that have played down there and experienced fifty car crashes

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Speaker 3: in a particular game, take a year off or retire

633
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Speaker 3: for a year, and then come back to it. What's

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Speaker 3: the biggest hurdle and what do you remember for you

635
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Speaker 3: and whether you wanted to come back or not. But

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Speaker 3: when did you feel like, Okay, the game is like

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Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm not coming back. But what's the biggest

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Speaker 3: hurdle in coming back? Do you think for anybody that

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Speaker 3: would think about playing your position for how many of

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Speaker 3: years JJ's played, retired for a year and then comes

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Speaker 3: back to it.

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Speaker 2: I know he's a different kind of athlete. But how

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Speaker 2: tough would that be.

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Speaker 4: It'll be very tough.

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Speaker 7: And if it was anybody, except for maybe one or

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Speaker 7: two players, I would say it just wouldn't happen. But

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Speaker 7: if somebody could make it happen, I feel like it

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Speaker 7: would be JJ will And it depends on what injuries

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Speaker 7: you're coming back from now. Obviously I was in the

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Speaker 7: same stratosphere as JJ as an NFL player, but for me,

651
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Speaker 7: both my knees were shot, So even if I wanted to,

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Speaker 7: I couldn't. Right if JJ feels healthy and feels apart,

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Speaker 7: He's one of the very few guys that I would

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Speaker 7: say he could take time off come back if he

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Speaker 7: accepts whatever role they give him and still be productive.

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Speaker 7: Don't forget his last year he had twelve and a

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Speaker 7: half sacks. I didn't expect him to retire. At twelve

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Speaker 7: and a half sacks is a career year for ninety

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Speaker 7: percent of edge players, So I think it would be

660
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 7: great to see him come back.

661
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah really, oh absolutely, How would your body accleimate again?

662
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: If you think about that, just if you think about, Okay,

663
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: this was last year I played.

664
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: Take your off.

665
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: Do you have any idea how your body would react

666
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: to all of a sudden, Hey, I haven't had all

667
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: these hits for three hundred and sixty five days and now,

668
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, I hurt everywhere.

669
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 7: Again, keep in mind most of our bodies would react

670
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 7: a certain ways. He's not normal, Like this is a

671
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 7: guy that was three hundred pounds doing six feet box

672
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 7: jump it out taking a step so and again, not

673
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 7: to like glaze over JJ or whatever these kids say,

674
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 7: but I just give props or props do like it's

675
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 7: gonna hurt that. You know he's gonna have if he

676
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 7: does it, he's gonna have nice where he's like, why

677
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 7: am I doing this? But if anybody could come back

678
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 7: and be productive in the form of six seven sacks

679
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 7: and showing Will Anderson and giving a Danielle Hunter a

680
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 7: breather but still being productive, I think he's the guy

681
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 7: to do it.

682
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the young We went with

683
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: the older guy JJ, and now to the younger guy,

684
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior, who has his sophomore season. I'll put

685
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: that in their quotes coming up. What about year one

686
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: to year two? The jump for him? Because Watt took

687
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: a tremendous leap from year one to year two really

688
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: emerged late in year one and Will had some amazing

689
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: moments and defensive Rookie of the Year. So what are

690
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: our expectations right now?

691
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 7: Just to continue if he what makes him great his motor,

692
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 7: his violent hands, and his approach to the game. I

693
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 7: don't see that changing from year one to two. Everything

694
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 7: I'm hearing about Will Anderson and seeing as far as

695
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 7: practices and OTAs, he's still that hungry. There isn't like

696
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 7: one move I say, oh he needs to work on.

697
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 7: He just needs to continue to do what he's done.

698
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 7: As far as the stats, I know some people at

699
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 7: some part of the year last year, oh, his sacks

700
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 7: are down, but they don't realize that you can be

701
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 7: an effective edge player. John, you know this as much,

702
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 7: if not more than most people. And have a game

703
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 7: where you don't have a sack, but you had a

704
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 7: good game because you were disruptive in the backfield. You

705
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 7: put the pressure on the quarterback because there was so

706
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 7: much focus on stopping you. You opened up your three

707
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 7: technique that's lined up next to you or the other

708
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 7: defensive end. That's what you saw out of Will Anderson.

709
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 7: Now there's no way I'll compare him to Jadeveon Clowny

710
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 7: because they seem to be two different personalities. But as

711
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 7: far as year one and the stats and the people

712
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 7: who are expecting to see fifteen sixteen sacks, I think

713
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 7: he had that Jadeveon Clowney type season where if you

714
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 7: actually watch the film, you see the disruption and you

715
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 7: see how productive he truly was.

716
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: Indeed, Daniel Hunter is he's a really interesting guy because

717
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: I remember when we signed him, Marcus, like, what do

718
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: you think, I said, He's chopping and swiping and spin

719
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: and never stops. It's like he's got this just relentless

720
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: bag of tricks. In some sense, Who's the guy that

721
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: you played with that was kind of like that just

722
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: had crafty pass rush moves and may not and I mean,

723
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: Danial Hunter's a really good athlete, but he's got so

724
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: many different moves that he can use all times. Did

725
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: you have a guy that you played with that was

726
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: kind of this crafty pass rusher that no matter what,

727
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: he was getting to the quarterback in some way, shape

728
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: or form.

729
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 7: Bruce Smith, right, And it sounds crazy to say Bruce

730
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 7: Smith because he's one of the best athletes ever played.

731
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 7: But when I played with him. He was thirty eight, right,

732
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 7: So when they first signed him to Washington, and you know,

733
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 7: we were doing our OTAs you know, they told me, Hey,

734
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 7: so the little background story. So after the previous year,

735
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 7: I thought, oh, I've arrived, like I'm the man, Like

736
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 7: you know, I've earned my spot. So I thought I

737
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 7: was going to start. Then Coach Turner pulls me in

738
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 7: and say, hey, we're signing somebody and he's probably gonna

739
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 7: start a you know, ahead of you. It's a true story.

740
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 7: And I was like, well, you haven't even given me

741
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 7: a chance to come. Then's all resigning Bruce Smith. I

742
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 7: was like, okay, I'll take that back.

743
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: Okay, cool.

744
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 7: So we're going through OTA's and running wind sprints and

745
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 7: he was working out smart. I'm not saying that I

746
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 7: was faster than him, but he wasn't putting you went

747
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 7: to push himself. So I was thinking, like, man, I

748
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 7: know he's probably the best ever do it, but can

749
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 7: he play? And he showed me his bag of tricks.

750
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 7: And then when I would see him do it in

751
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 7: the game, and he wasn't the fastest off the ball,

752
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 7: he wasn't the strongest at that point, but those bag

753
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 7: of tricks and the different moves, the variety of moves,

754
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 7: and he was out there playing chess when everybody else

755
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 7: was playing checkers in regards to when you're gonna use

756
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 7: certain moves. And that's what makes the great players who

757
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 7: last ten, twelve, fifteen years like a hundred last because

758
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 7: they understand like the techniques and the hand placements and

759
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 7: all the ancillary aspects of being a pass rusher.

760
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this because I don't know

761
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: if you're aware of this. It's the thirtieth anniversary of

762
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: the Rice upset over the Longhorns at Rice Stadium, and

763
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: I know that's a game people still talk about a

764
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: lot in Rice circles at the very least, and probably

765
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: long Horn circles as well. Is that your most memorable

766
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: win or is it something that happened with the Eagles,

767
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: like getting to the Super Bowl or one of the

768
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: times you got to the NFC Championship game?

769
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: What is it now?

770
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 7: That's definitely up there, obviously, when you've played on different levels.

771
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 7: My favorite win might be some obscure Oh back when

772
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 7: San Antonio Marshall beat you know, Houston Aldeam. But that

773
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 7: was huge and I didn't realize until you said it

774
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 7: that it has been thirty years since we beat University

775
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 7: of Texas. That was probably the biggest upset I've been

776
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 7: a part of. As far as the reaction, I'll never forget.

777
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 7: A week or two after that game, we were at

778
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 7: the Gallery of Mall and we had our Rice football

779
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 7: stuff on Dominique Wilkins. Well, it was on the mall

780
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 7: as well, and he stopped, Oh, do you all play

781
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 7: at rights? And we're like, yeah, he's all, man, I

782
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 7: saw that game against UT and that that was like

783
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 7: one of the coolest things back then to be a

784
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 7: part of. But yeah, I can't I can't downplay it

785
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 7: that that was a special special win for us. The

786
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 7: fact that they're still counting the day I didn't realize.

787
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 7: It's been kind of getting old with Mark. Why you

788
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 7: have to bring that up thirty years But no, that

789
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 7: was definitely a special special win.

790
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean, beating the Longhorns.

791
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: Would love to see right through it again if that ever,

792
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: that opportunity ever came up.

793
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: But that is so. What's the pro one that you

794
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: remember the most or that you relish the most.

795
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 6: Maybe being Atlanta in the NFC Championship game.

796
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 7: That was big, probably though because of everything that happened.

797
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 7: When we played the Greatest Show on Turf in Philadelphia,

798
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 7: Donovan McNabb was hurt, so we had to start aj Philly.

799
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 7: And this is when Kurt Warner, Isaac, Bruce, Marshall, flock falk,

800
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 7: excuse me, we're all in their prime. They came to Philadelphia,

801
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 7: no one gave us a chance and ended up beating

802
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 7: them fourteen to three. So like our defense steps under

803
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 7: three to three points. Man, they couldn't point to injuries

804
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 7: like we just Yeah. Jim Johnson really he really challenged

805
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 7: the defense and said, hey, everybody's counting y'all out this game,

806
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 7: and that that was a special one.

807
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: The name Jim Johnson comes up. You and I talked

808
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: about this, and you mentioned Jim Johnson before. I don't

809
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: think people truly understand how great a defensive coordinator that

810
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: he actually was. How much did he mean to you

811
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: and what what was it about Jim Johnson as a

812
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: coach that meant a lot to you and kids?

813
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: This is Jim Johnson, not Jimmy Johnson, because the younger

814
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: folk will not remember this in all likelihood, it's Jim Johnson,

815
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: a different guy.

816
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 7: Well said, defensive coordinator for the Eagles. I feel like

817
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 7: he was overshadowed because in his prime was also the

818
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 7: time that Dick lebo from the Pittsburgh Steelers was really

819
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 7: doing his thing. It's obviously a great defensive coordinator, but

820
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 7: he just felt like our head coach. You know, with

821
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 7: all due respect to Andy Reid, and I've already told

822
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 7: you how I feel about Andy Reid. I think he's

823
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 7: one of the best in the business. But as a

824
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 7: defense as a unit, we looked to Jim Johnson and

825
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 7: he was just like a mad scientist on the whiteboard,

826
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 7: just putting different plays together. He really understood what the

827
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 7: offense was trying to do, and he was always being

828
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 7: proactive and stopping it. And he's a guy that will

829
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 7: come into our defensive beating and saying, hey, this team

830
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 7: did this, our opponent did this three weeks ago because

831
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 7: they played a similar defense, so this is how we're

832
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 7: going to combat it. So, I mean, just a guy

833
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 7: that poured his heart and soul and was very smart

834
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 7: and capable into coming up with different defenses. And when

835
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 7: you realize his passion for the sport, you just felt like, hey,

836
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 7: I have to bring everything to the table because I'm

837
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 7: playing for this guy.

838
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: We'll get right back into it with nd Kalou and

839
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: talk about Stefon Diggs on a day the Texans reportedly

840
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: signed Nico Collins to a contract extension, and de has

841
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: unique insight, even as a defensive player, into receivers that

842
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: have a big repuation, big playmaking reputation, and big off

843
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: field reputation of being guys who really want to win

844
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: and are very vocal about.

845
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 6: It because he played with too.

846
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: So let's talk to him about that, among other things

847
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: when Texans All Access continues. Back at it here on

848
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: Texans Radio celebrating Nico Collins reportedly signing an extension with

849
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: the team three years. Top ten contract keeps him with

850
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: the Texans through twenty twenty seven. That is awesome, Ndy

851
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: Kalu in studio with us today. Now, we've talked a

852
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: lot about Nico during the show, but let's talk about

853
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: another receiver on the Texans, Stefan Diggs. And Endy might

854
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: have some insight into the Diggs phenomenon because Dig's very vocal.

855
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: He played with Terrell Owens, who's very vocal. Yes to

856
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: was a member of the Eagles when Endy was on

857
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: the team, and they went to the Super Bowl in

858
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: the four season. So what about the Digs factor the

859
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: impression that the team is going to have on him.

860
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: It's interesting nd Diggs is not too. Diggs is not

861
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: doing press conferences in his driveway while working out. Dis

862
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: is not that t is that? What was it like

863
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: being around too? How did it affect the rest of

864
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 1: the team. Is a really good player, but he made

865
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: things known when he didn't like the way things were going.

866
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying Diggs is going to do that, but he's

867
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: just one of these too. Was one of these very

868
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: loud kind of guys on and off the field.

869
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: If we can get the same production.

870
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 7: Out of Digs that Philadelphia got out of Too, he

871
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 7: could do a press conference button naked in front of

872
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 7: in front of the you know, the Mayor's house for

873
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 7: all I care. Because what to brought to the Philadelphia

874
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 7: Eagles was special year more. I mean not just what

875
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 7: he did on the field, but the fact that, you know,

876
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 7: and again we had some great leaders on the team already,

877
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 7: but the way he worked out before workouts, the way

878
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 7: he worked out and prepared before stepping on the practice field,

879
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 7: it was just awesome to see, like oh. After he

880
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 7: did the first time, a couple of practice squad guys

881
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 7: did it with him, because you know, they're trying to

882
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 7: elevate their status in the NFL. Then a couple of

883
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 7: starters did it because they're like, well, I start, but

884
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 7: I want to be on Tho's level. And he wasn't

885
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 7: gathering guys. He was just like, if y'all want to

886
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 7: work out, cool, And then to see like ten fifteen

887
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 7: guys doing it and other guys who might not be

888
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 7: doing that particular workout still trying to put in that time.

889
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 7: You know, I'm kind of going off on a tangent.

890
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 7: Market let me get back to your original question and point.

891
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 7: If Diggs can have that type of impact, I think

892
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 7: everybody's going to be happy.

893
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

894
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 7: Much about Diggs, but I do feel like when somebody's

895
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 7: getting emotional on the sideline, it doesn't mean they're a

896
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 7: bad player. A lot of times, it means what they

897
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 7: want to win. You know, I would rather have a

898
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 7: guy yelling at his teammates because he's upset with the

899
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 7: results than a guy who's just like, whatever, I'm gonna

900
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 7: pick up my paycheck on Tuesday. So if he understands

901
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 7: the locker room that he's coming into. If Diggs understands

902
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 7: that this is coach Demico Ryan is a well respected

903
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 7: individual in the NFL. I need to show that respect.

904
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 7: If Dix comes in saying to himself, you know what,

905
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 7: one of the best receivers to ever play the game

906
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 7: played on this team and he didn't do any of

907
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 7: this off the field nonsense and Andre Johnson, then I

908
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 7: think it's gonna be a good fit.

909
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 2: Andy.

910
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 3: How much did TiO honestly endear himself to the team,

911
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 3: but gain y'all's respect, especially a defensive a defensive unit

912
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: that had those alphas on it, when he plays in

913
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl basically with a broken leg.

914
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 7: First of all, he gained our respect day one, just

915
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 7: by seeing how he worked, right, you know we always

916
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 7: heard about him, Yeah yeah, and we were a different

917
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 7: group to have the success we had. It's almost like

918
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 7: we didn't realize how good we were because we didn't

919
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 7: win a Super Bowl at that point. But to see

920
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 7: the way he worked, he gained everyone's respect. But when

921
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 7: he broke his leg, and I was in there because

922
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 7: I tore my ACL around the same time, so I

923
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 7: was in there. I was in the train room when

924
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 7: the doctor said your season's over, and he said I'll

925
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 7: be back for the super Bowl, and everybody was like,

926
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 7: oh that's cute. Yeah whatever, you know, sounds good. Then

927
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 7: you start to see the way he works and he's

928
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 7: showing up at six in the morning, then he comes

929
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 7: back at six in the evening, and then you're like,

930
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 7: I know, medically he's probably not gonna make it back,

931
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 7: but he sure is put in the work. Then, like

932
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 7: two weeks before the Super Bowl, you see him running

933
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 7: routes and you're like, was he ever injured?

934
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: Right?

935
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 7: And then you see the game. I mean, if we

936
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 7: win that game, he's the player of the game. Yeah,

937
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 7: if we win the game. But we lost to the

938
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 7: New England Patriots and Tom Brady. But if the Eagles

939
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 7: found a way to win that game, he would have

940
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 7: been the player of the game. I mean, after that,

941
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 7: it was just like, you know what, people may have

942
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 7: their differences with him off the field, but there isn't

943
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 7: one person that can deny what type of athlete he

944
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 7: is and what type of competitor he is.

945
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: It was just unreal.

946
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 6: I got another one for you about your career.

947
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: In Washington, we were part of a playoff team, one

948
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: of the rare playoff appearances in the Snyder era. Brad

949
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: Johnson was the quarterback. If I told you then that

950
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson was gonna win a Super Bowl a few

951
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: years later with Tampa Bay, would you have believed me?

952
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

953
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 7: Okay, because that's the I mean, he was a guy

954
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 7: and you're a little bit detached from your reality when

955
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 7: you're in it. But he's a guy that we all

956
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 7: we trusted. We felt like we can win with this guy.

957
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 7: And you talked about Mark, you know some of the

958
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 7: more special wins. I would say that year was one

959
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 7: of the more special seasons because not only did we

960
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 7: win a playoff game, we won the NFC East Division

961
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 7: with a bunch of no names like guys like myself,

962
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 7: Sean Barber, Derek Smith, you know. Brad Johnson was our quarterback,

963
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 7: Marvcus Patten was one of our best defensive players middle linebacker.

964
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 7: And I don't even know why I'm naming these names

965
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 7: because I'm sure everybody listening is like, who is that?

966
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 7: Like who's he talking about? But that's what made that

967
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 7: year so special. So everyone counted us out. We ended

968
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 7: up winning the division. I believe we beat Detroit in

969
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 7: the playoff game, and then Mike Allstar and Cole just

970
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 7: ran through us the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and brought us

971
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 7: back to reality. But that was one of the more

972
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 7: special seasons. And then the year after that the off season.

973
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 7: This is where you have to be pretty disciplined during

974
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 7: the off season. So I think Daniel Snyder thought, man,

975
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 7: I made it. You know, my team made it to

976
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 7: the playoffs, won a playoff game with a bunch of

977
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 7: no names, So what is he doing? Off season signs

978
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 7: Dion Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, Larry Sentners, and the chemistry

979
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 7: just wasn't there and we ended up taking like three

980
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 7: steps back. So that's another thing to bring it back

981
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 7: to Houston that I'm excited about for the Texans to

982
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 7: you know, exceed everybody's expectations last year and then this

983
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 7: off season, the additions and the resignings, they seem like

984
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 7: smart moves. They don't seem like Nick Cassara just said, oh,

985
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 7: I just got to add these pieces and we're gonna

986
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 7: win it all. It still seems very strategic.

987
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: You and I are the same similar age group, but

988
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 3: it hit me when you started going through the different

989
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: Eagles players and you mentioned Jeremiah Trotter and now the

990
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: Eagles just drafted Jeremiah Trotter Junior.

991
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: You mentioned Brad Johnson.

992
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: Brad Johnson's two kids are now at North Carolina getting

993
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: ready to go potentially to the NFL in a little

994
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: bit kind of I step up sometimes and think, oh

995
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: my god, I've gotten old. But for me, I can

996
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: for you, I can imagine seeing Jeremiah Trotter Junior going

997
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: back to the team that his dad played for that

998
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: you played with.

999
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: What's that kind of feeling like, Oh my god, I'm old.

1000
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: Or is it kind of cool to see it happen

1001
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: to see him go back to where his dad ended

1002
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: up playing.

1003
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm old.

1004
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know I remember holding him like carry oh

1005
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 7: yeah in the locker room, like you know, all of

1006
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 7: our we were very close knit group. So and I'm like,

1007
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 7: is that the kid that I used to hold in

1008
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 7: my arm? He's now about to go butt heads in

1009
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 7: the NFC East. And then you bring up Brad Johnson

1010
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 7: when his sons not just one, we're making place for

1011
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 7: Texas A and m I'm right, oh yeah, I remember

1012
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 7: those little kids.

1013
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: Not even that. Then the dept.

1014
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 7: Maers I don't know if you remember Coy and Ty

1015
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 7: Deptmer like one of them, and I can't remember because

1016
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 7: they looked like Coy and Tie. One of their sons

1017
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 7: as early age just had a rocket.

1018
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 4: Of an arm.

1019
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 7: They were like, oh, yeah, he's definitely a Deptmer and

1020
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 7: he's coaching now.

1021
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: So yeah.

1022
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 7: To see guys that you've played with and their kids

1023
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 7: in the NFL, John Runyon like yeah, yeah, yeah, his

1024
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 7: son is like a five year pro now, So you

1025
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 7: had to see all these guys. It's pretty cool and

1026
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 7: at the same time it's a reminder that you are aging.

1027
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

1028
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 6: All right, gentlemen, that's all the time we have for today.

1029
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: If anybody missed our conversation on Nico, who reportedly signed

1030
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: a three year extension with the Houston Texans through twenty

1031
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: twenty seven, this show will go up on podcasts soon

1032
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: enough on Houston Texans dot com, the Texans App, Spotify, Apple,

1033
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: all of it, and we will be back add it tomorrow.

1034
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: Can't wait to talk more about your Texans. Have a

1035
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: great evening everyone. Area forty five is coming up. Don't

1036
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: miss it. Go Texans.