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Speaker 2: I took a brutal beating in the early games. I

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Speaker 2: not only went oh for four, they all got blown out.

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Speaker 2: I've never had one of those. I've had bad weekends.

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Speaker 2: I've not been on the wrong side of everything. And

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Speaker 2: I liked Army. I mean, everything went wrong. Thank god

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Speaker 2: there wasn't a big college football weekend. So let's start

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Speaker 2: with Philadelphia. Jalen Hurts. I mean, the guy had nothing

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Speaker 2: but time. The old line for Philadelphia was fantastic. He's

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Speaker 2: mean it was really to watch him kind of do

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Speaker 2: whatever he wanted to do in the second half, twenty

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Speaker 2: seven to thirteen Philadelphia. You know, now, George Pickens was

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Speaker 2: I could do it over again, I wouldn't have taken

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Speaker 2: the Steelers with him out again. I guess it's the hamstring.

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Speaker 2: But I mean that's second half for Philadelphia. I can

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Speaker 2: say all I want about Nick Ceriani that second half.

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Speaker 1: I mean we.

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Speaker 2: Always say script first half, second half as players. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what to make of it. Pittsburgh's defense. They clinched,

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Speaker 2: by the way, a playoff spot, even losing because of

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Speaker 2: the Chargers loss. What did you make of Philadelphia? I

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Speaker 2: was kind of jaw dropping.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was pacing around before the afternoon game started.

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Speaker 1: I thought about putting a large wager on the Steelers

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Speaker 1: money line, and I thought about ten minutes into that game,

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Speaker 1: it was obvious the Steelers were in major trouble. They

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Speaker 1: game plan is always going to be to corral Sakwon Barkley. Well,

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Speaker 1: aj Brown and DeVante Smith had twenty catches over two

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Speaker 1: had to be given the circumstance and the level of competition.

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Speaker 1: One of Jalen's best games in a long long time.

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Speaker 1: He was under complete control Kellen Moore. I thought the

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Speaker 1: two coordinators, Kellen Moore and Vic Fangio dominated that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Naji Harris's fumbled the little bit of life Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: You know. It was funny.

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Speaker 2: They only had eighty first half yards and they only

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Speaker 2: pull it out. And then Nase Harris fumbled, You know it.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things and I try to avoid this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of CEO head coaches

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Speaker 1: You know, in the year. How many teams could have

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Speaker 2: You feel with a lot of teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: line dominate. Today. It was their wide receivers in Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just I watched Philadelphia today and I don't want

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Speaker 2: is it is really hard to watch that game today

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's first half offense two point seven yards of play.

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Nothing against Detroit. I love their offense,

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Speaker 1: No, well not right now with their defense. I mean,

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Speaker 2: And I also think sometimes and I keep going back

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I I've told destroy before. I had a friend she

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Speaker 2: But who's ready to coach the Philadelphia Eagles. It's never

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Speaker 2: been a head coach like I mean, Chip Kelly's like

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Speaker 2: I think I think Philadelphia is just uniquely difficult. It's

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Speaker 2: a hard place to coach. The media has impact the

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Speaker 2: Okay Buffalo forty eight, Lions thirty five. I thought the

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Speaker 1: you were not going to have a better quarterback on

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Speaker 1: the field than that guy. But in freezing cold, I mean,

431
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Speaker 1: the coldest places to play in the league, ironically, are

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Speaker 1: it feels like I mean that with good teams, the

433
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: Bears suck are Green Bay and Buffalo, who consistently and

434
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and like the Chiefs have built themselves into

435
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Speaker 1: a defensive team and a gritty team. The Packers they're

436
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Speaker 1: about to play, but I mean they are built offensive weapons.

437
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Speaker 1: Buffalo they want to play like the greatest show on turf.

438
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Speaker 1: Look how comfortable they have been these last two weeks.

439
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Speaker 1: It's just harder to do that in the Blizzard. But

440
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Speaker 1: I think right now, you know, I mean, I think

441
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Speaker 1: Mahomes it looks like he's gonna be okay. But how

442
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Speaker 1: would you not pick Buffalo in to represent the AFC.

443
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Speaker 1: If this guy's going to play like this, as long

444
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Speaker 1: as he's healthy, I would bet on him to win

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Speaker 1: the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, Philadelphia and Buffalo feel like, if not safe,

447
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: prohibitive favorites to play in the Super Bowl. You know,

448
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 2: it's interesting. We have so many topics today, you know,

449
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting. The Broncos now was the

450
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Speaker 2: final thirty one to thirteen over the Colts. The Broncos

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Speaker 2: thirty one thirteen, so Bo Nicks had yeah and also

452
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Speaker 2: finished with three touchdowns. I got to tell you something.

453
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: The Colts had a great game plan, dominated early twenty

454
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Speaker 2: to seven lead. If Jonathan Taylor doesn't drop I never

455
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: thought of Jonathan Taylor as a knucklehead, but the minute

456
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Speaker 2: he did that, I just kind of put him in

457
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Speaker 2: a different camp. I'm like, oh, oh, you're one of

458
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: those guys like Okay, Jonathan Taylor, for the uninitiated, dropped

459
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Speaker 2: a long touchdown run at the goal line and it's

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Speaker 2: called back. But what I thought was really interesting today

461
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: is the Bronco bo Knicks was overshooting his targets, really struggling.

462
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: You know, they they both had time off, so we

463
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 2: came in with a ton of energy and didn't use

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Speaker 2: it to his advantage. But they go in at halftime

465
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Speaker 2: and Anthony Richardson at one point was twelve for twenty nine,

466
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Speaker 2: no touchdowns, two picks they made. That was classic coaching.

467
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: They made adjustments at halftime, and the Colts offense dried

468
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Speaker 2: up and bow Nicks, despite a horrible first half John

469
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: he came, they didn't quit on him. They did not quit.

470
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Speaker 2: That a huge return by Mims. They continue to let

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Speaker 2: bow Nicks throw. And my two takeaways in this game

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Speaker 2: is I'm not sure Anthony Richardson. I'm not sure he's

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Speaker 2: a starting quarterback in the league. I just don't think

474
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Speaker 2: he sees the field at all. And my second take

475
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Speaker 2: is Sean Payton's the coach of the year. This team

476
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Speaker 2: is gonna make the playoffs. And they're not only gonna

477
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Speaker 2: make the playoffs, they now can win when they play poorly.

478
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Speaker 2: They beat the Jets when they played poorly on the road,

479
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: They played poorly for three quarters today. Or how surprised

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Speaker 2: are you by it?

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Speaker 1: Well? I thought at one point in time in the game,

482
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Speaker 1: it felt like there were twenty five turnovers. They were

483
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Speaker 1: throwing picks every other series, I think, I mean, how

484
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Speaker 1: good is Benito that the pass rusher the Holy God against?

485
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Speaker 1: And I thought that play was pretty symbolic. You know,

486
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Speaker 1: the game's kind of on the line, and they have

487
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Speaker 1: a top five quarterback and they got to run a

488
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Speaker 1: crazy trick play. Why because the guy can't function? I mean,

489
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Speaker 1: I really think Jonathan Taylor's lucky that his quarterback is

490
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Speaker 1: such a disaster, because that story's gonna I would say,

491
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Speaker 1: overtake his drop. He was that bad. He was atrocious.

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Speaker 1: You can't function with him, Colin, I mean, he's you can't.

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Speaker 1: You saw bow Dix, listen, he looked like a rookie

494
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Speaker 1: early in that game. He got fooled on a pass.

495
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: He threw another pass right to a linebacker. It was

496
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Speaker 1: just your classic when Jonathan Taylor was running the ball

497
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Speaker 1: in there, you just went, hey, this is one of

498
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Speaker 1: your classic rookie games where he just has a complete dud.

499
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Speaker 1: You lose, but it's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: Cults are desperate, their seasons on the line. And then

501
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Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, I looked up and I

502
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: was like, how did Denver have the ball? And then

503
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Speaker 1: you look Denver realized what happened, and then Denver went Clift.

504
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Speaker 2: Denver out scored in the twenty four to nothing after

505
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: the Taylor fumble forced three turning rovers, including a pick six.

506
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Speaker 2: And I think to your point is the Taylor fumble

507
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,239
Speaker 2: will get all the attention. But now think about this.

508
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: We all know how good Shane Steikeen is. That goes

509
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Speaker 2: without saying he made Jalen Hurts an MVP level quarterback.

510
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts today looked alike that regularly with Shane Steikin.

511
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Speaker 2: That's what he looked like all the time with Shane Steikeen.

512
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Speaker 2: Now it's an outlier. Justin Herbert broke records, he made

513
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew last year, like one game from the playoffs.

514
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: He couldn't do anything in the second half, like he

515
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 2: has halfs. He can't do anything with Anthony Richardson. Bow

516
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: Knicks can struggle, but John, they'll go into half, they'll

517
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: come out and bo Nix is firing and accurate and

518
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: moving like there's a big gap between those two.

519
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: To me, bow Knicks has a rhythm and a feel

520
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: to his game and can function from within the pocket.

521
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: Now he's still got to get better. He's a rookie.

522
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson can has no feel, cannot function, has no touch.

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Speaker 1: I mean he threw a pick today on like a

524
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Speaker 1: lollipop throw. It was like what it looks like a

525
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Speaker 1: junior high pass. Yeah, and obviously, and I think these

526
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Speaker 1: are the worst type players are the ones that are

527
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Speaker 1: truly physically gifted, because it's like, ah, if we could

528
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Speaker 1: just I think you could just go, this is never

529
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Speaker 1: gonna work. I mean the likelihood. We have seen the

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Speaker 1: occasional guys improve on accuracy. You know, Josh Allen is

531
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: a great example. Lamar. Clearly, Anthony Richardson feels like he

532
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: regresses or not even he's just bad. He just when

533
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: it comes to throwing from within the pocket, you cannot

534
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Speaker 1: function in the modern day NFL with a quarterback like that.

535
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: And why Denver was in such trouble before he dropped

536
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: the ball. It's like they're gonna get two hundred and

537
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: eighty yards on the ground between Anthony Richdon and Jonathan Taylor.

538
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: That's the only way they can beat you. Yeah, But

539
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: then they got the lead and all of a sudden,

540
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson had to pass and it was like, Ah,

541
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Speaker 1: this is not gonna work. And I don't think that's

542
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Speaker 1: coachable at this point. Yeah, you know, I think it's

543
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: clear he has touch feel issues that you just can't overcome. Listen,

544
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is never gonna be Peyton Manning or Aaron

545
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: Rodgers from the pocket right or Drew Brees or a

546
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: true pocket quarterback. But you go back to Oklahoma and Alabama,

547
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: there is a feel to play quarterback. There are things

548
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: he does pretty well, even Anthony Richardson on the move.

549
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Like one thing Jalen does a great job of is

550
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: when he scrambles, keeps his eyes and can make a

551
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: very accurate pass. You watch Anthiy Richardson scrambles and he'll

552
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: throw these two and are mile an hour fastballs that

553
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: will skip by the wide receiver's feet, who's kind of

554
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: open running back to the sideline. You're like, I just

555
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: don't think he can get his body to do touch passes.

556
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: And I think it's very, very difficult for a guy.

557
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: And listen, we've seen this in baseball for a long time.

558
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: Guys that only throw one hundred and got nothing else

559
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: and they can't throw a strike. Usually all of a sudden,

560
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: the light doesn't switch or you know, the switch doesn't

561
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: light up and go boom, Okay, I'm accurate now, or

562
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: I can throw a bunch of strikes. It feels I

563
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: don't listen, I'm no expert on mechanics with throwing, but

564
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: there is some twitch muscle in his shoulder that doesn't

565
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: allow him jalen some of these Kyler Murray, I watched

566
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: him when he scrambles, he can do, you know, touch

567
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: lollipop passes. Anthony Richardson is just throwing as hard as

568
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: humanly possible. He would have way more picks if he

569
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Speaker 1: didn't throw the ball so hard.

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Speaker 2: The you know, I look at all these games because

571
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: I want to talk about brock Purty, Belichick and the

572
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy with you but I will say I'll just

573
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: throw this out there, Bucks forty Chargers seventeen six straight

574
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: defensive stops. Todd Bowles in that defense against Herbert, the

575
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: number one defense in the league, gave up forty. Mike

576
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Evans was a problem for the Chargers. And I'll tell

577
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: you there's clearly an upper crust right now in the league.

578
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: Kansas City, I think Baltimore, Buffalo, I think Detroit, maybe

579
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: Green Bay. By the time we're doing this, if they

580
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: win tonight in Seattle, I think they will. I think

581
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: they're a better team, but don't trust me. And I

582
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: think Philadelphia. Then there's a second level of teams, and

583
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: I think we put Pittsburgh in there, maybe a Houston

584
00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: maybe for whatever reasons, we don't want to put Tampa

585
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: in there. But they kicked the shit out of the

586
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: Chargers today. I mean that they Chargers couldn't run on them.

587
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: Herbert was constantly under duress. Meanwhile, Baker Mayfield had time

588
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: to throw. Their receivers were beating the secondary for the Chargers.

589
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: I thought it was I didn't By the second half,

590
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what the Chargers offensive plan was.

591
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: Between Jason Light's roster, the GM and Baker Mayfield. He

592
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: and Darnold. And by the way, Baker can still throw

593
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: really bad picks. He's got him within his game. But

594
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: I was watching that today and you can't run on Tampa.

595
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: Can't run on him. Vida v in the middle, can't

596
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: run on him. Todd Bowles has always been an excellent

597
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. I'm sitting watching it and I'm like, they're

598
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: going to beat somebody in the playoffs. You better be

599
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: careful that team. I mean, that's the kind of team

600
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: that could go to Philadelphia. Is a nine point dog.

601
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Saque couldn't run the Weather's and you end up with

602
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: a twenty one to twenty football game.

603
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: To me, well, they got a couple of things going

604
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: for him. One, they got high end offensive players. I mean,

605
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving is really good. The running back. Baker Mayfield

606
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: has played in multiple playoff games now and won them. Right,

607
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: go back to twenty twenty against the Steelers, you know,

608
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: last year against the Eagles. So he's comfortable. He's a

609
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 1: bright lights guy, and I'm with you. Early on in

610
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: that game he throws that pick, You're like, oh, this

611
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: Mentor Charger defense gonna be tough. And then he settled down.

612
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: The different The gap between the offensive skill guys on

613
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: this team or you know, between the two teams was

614
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: pretty evident. Is JK. Dobbins Walter Payton or something? How

615
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: can they lose him and not function in the run

616
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: game without the guy? I don't get it. I like JK.

617
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: Dobbins as much as the next guy. Seems like an

618
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: impressive guy and good player. But a hardball team has

619
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Speaker 1: especially this one with their offensive skill, has no chance

620
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: against an average, a non playoff team running the ball

621
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Speaker 1: for thirty two yards. Looking right now, they had a

622
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: lean rushes for thirty two yards. Jim Harbaugh, if you

623
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: go back since he's been coached at San Diego, that

624
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: is a recipe to lose. Now, obviously they got back

625
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: or they got behind, so they had to try to

626
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: get back into the game and throw the ball. But

627
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: then they're not built to do that. What he's done

628
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: with Quentin Johnson, to me is pretty commendable. The guy

629
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Speaker 1: has eight touchdowns. I mean, last year we're talking about

630
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: the guy's a complete bus and actually he's kind of

631
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: a functional player. But you know it's basically him and McConkey.

632
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: You're not coming back on Mike Evans, who was going

633
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: straight to the Hall of Fame. Yatton is a good player, right,

634
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: and McMillan had a big game today. I mean they

635
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: just once they lost Godwin, you went, I don't know,

636
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: and Evans had hurt the Hammy Evans came back, shows

637
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: no signs of that hamstring, and other guys have stepped up.

638
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: And the other thing that at the end of the

639
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Brady era, remember it was like they're historically shitty running team.

640
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: And then a couple of years later they got Bucky

641
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: Irving and he's now the starter and he just he

642
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: has big plays every game. And the Baker the momentum.

643
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: Remember when Dorsey drafted Baker, a lot of it was

644
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: on like the bravado and cocky. Yes, you can't have

645
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: that in the NFL when you're not playing well, but

646
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: I would say for the last two years in Tampa,

647
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: his energy is pretty palpable to them and you feel

648
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: it when they get rolling and they're best player. Mike Evans,

649
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: they clearly have a pretty InCor. For as shitty as

650
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: the rapport was with him and OBJ back in the day,

651
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: theirs is high level and it showed the day. I

652
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: mean it was the Charges had no answer. And here's

653
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: the other thing. Obviously, the Charges can't run the ball.

654
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: If their defense isn't covering people that they're in major

655
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: that's their formula. They can't win any other way.

656
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: So the Bucks have won four straight. In each game,

657
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: they've had four hundred plus yards and one hundred fifty

658
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: plus rushing yards. So it's White, it's Bucky Irving, it's

659
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: Baker playing with a ton of confidence. And they also

660
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: have they had like an unsportsman like conduct. They're chirpye

661
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: like they're they're they're the worst kind of underdog to

662
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: play because they think they're better than you, even.

663
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: Though they're not.

664
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: But they're like a relent like they're like they're like

665
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 2: a that's like forty and twenty eight with a good punch.

666
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: Like they're not they're not refined, they're not terribly polished,

667
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: but they play like they think they're the best team

668
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: in the league. And I don't know, I can see

669
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: I could see them absolutely going and beating a Detroit

670
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: I really could. I think they First of all, they

671
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: just as you said, their skill players are really good.

672
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: They're really good. And today they gave Baker time to

673
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: throw and you know, a couple of times the Baker

674
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: went out and moved. You know, we always knew in

675
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: that class that Darnold was a little bit better athlete

676
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: than Baker. But Baker remember years ago in Cleveland when

677
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: he screwed his shoulder up and I felt for like

678
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: a year and a half he wasn't right. It just

679
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: it felt like he was just always playing hurt. He's

680
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: healthy now and he's you know, he's he's worked hard

681
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: at it. He's pretty athletic. He can get up and

682
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: move well.

683
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: He's you know, you thought Jared Goff today, when you

684
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: hit Jared Goff, he's much more like Cousins. He's not

685
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: going to run around. I know he had a running

686
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: first down, but he you hit him, it can throw

687
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: him off. Baker much more like a lot of these

688
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: athletic guys in the league. He's some hybrid version of

689
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback, but he definitely has lost weight and

690
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: he can move. I assumed, like I like the Chargers today.

691
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: I thought the Chargers would win at home against the

692
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: Bucks and and the Atlanta plays the Raiders tomorrow, so

693
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they'd be tied and Atlantas beat

694
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: him twice, I'm like, you know, listen, the Bucks are

695
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: having a commendable season. They are in the driver's seat

696
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: right now, Colin, because they end with the Panthers and

697
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: the Saints. Now the Cowboys are playing pretty well, that's

698
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: a Sunday Night game next week. But I like, I'm

699
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna like the Bucks in that spot. They easily could

700
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: win out and then Atlanta doesn't control their own destiny.

701
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: If I would have told you at the beginning of

702
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: the season that Atlanta, after all the hoopla ive given

703
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars of basically laughing Belichick out and

704
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: going with Rahem Morris missed the playoffs, I mean because

705
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: that's there. They're only getting one team in. And the

706
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: Bucks be a huge muscle flex for Baker, for Jason Light,

707
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: for because when you talk about the chippiness, like I

708
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: worked with Todd in Philip, if Todd doesn't say anything,

709
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: it starts with Baker. Baker gives them that mentality, and honestly,

710
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: Jason Light has a little bit of that too. He

711
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: likes those type players. And they didn't have Winfield today.

712
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: So I think the Bucks, I'm with you that they

713
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: would be a date because they get a home game.

714
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: The thing, you win the division, even if you host

715
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: the Lions or Minnesota. If you're the four to five,

716
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: we've seen them before in that spot, win that game, right,

717
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: host that game and win it.

718
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: So right now Chiefs the number one seed, Bill second, Steelers, third,

719
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: Texans four, Broncos for Ravens four. They're all tied, and

720
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: then the Chargers seventh. So because the Dolphins lost, it's

721
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: still a two game lead for the Chargers over the

722
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: final playoff spot and the Dodgers and the Chargers. So

723
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: in the NFC as of right now.

724
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: The Dolls, I think the Dolphins stink. I mean the Dolphins, ye,

725
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: dink and dunk to a.

726
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: It's the Eagles and Lions tied for the number one

727
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: one seed, Vikings three, Packers four they're playing tonight, Commanders five,

728
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: Seahawks six, Buccaneers seven, Rams are right up against it.

729
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: So you know the Rams Buccaneers. I think the Rams

730
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 2: right now are better than the Buccaneers, but I don't

731
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: think it's by a lot. I think it's all take

732
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: McVeigh and Stafford over Bulls and Baker. But that run game,

733
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: Kyra and Williams in that run game, you'd have to

734
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 2: win it through the air because you're not running against Tampa.

735
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: If I said, right now, Rams, Tampa, who would you take.

736
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: I'd probably take the Rams. Yeah, I would give a

737
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: flight edge, I mean the coaching edge to McVeigh. I

738
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: would listen Bakers having a great year, but I'm taking Stafford. Now,

739
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, that's that game we'll see, because I think

740
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: there's a pretty good chance that the Rams in Seattle

741
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: both get into the playoff. Whoever doesn't win the division

742
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: is the seventh seed, and that's a tough seventh seed.

743
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean we saw last year, right it was Rams

744
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Detroit Round one, and the Rams easily could have won

745
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: that thing in the wildcard game. I would say the

746
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: same thing about Seattle depending on their matchup. Like if

747
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: you told me Seattle was the seven. I think we

748
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: talked about this, and let's say let's say Minnesota wins

749
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: that division and the Eagles are the one in Minnesota's

750
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: the two. Well, we like Seattle in a dome, right,

751
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean with their skill guys, So I I think this.

752
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: I think the NFC Playoffs, which early is like, I

753
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: don't know, I think it's gonna be pretty good. I

754
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: think all these underdogs and wildcard teams. The road teams

755
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: could win all these road games. It's gonna That's why

756
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: getting that number one seed for Philly. It'd be pretty

757
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: tough to go on the road to Philly. Right. So

758
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: they're they're in the driver's seat now with Detroit, who

759
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: still has tough games for men. They still play Minnesota.

760
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: It's just hard to win these games when you have injuries.

761
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: That's the other thing with you know, the Rams feel

762
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: like they're getting healthy. I mean that that Rams game

763
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: to win that game, it doesn't didn't show you though

764
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: that first half. You know, these are two tough, physical

765
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: teams pouring rain on the West Coast. They can't function right.

766
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: You put that game in the am North or Buffalo

767
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: or Green Bay, those teams is so comfortable. You get

768
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Niners that they can't do anything

769
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: in the first half in just a fifty five degree rainstorm.

770
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: I want to touch on this. So there was a

771
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: story and it came out today. It's almost if San

772
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: Francisco leaked it that brought purty. He's not going to

773
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: take a Baker deal. He's not going to take a

774
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: garn Old deal that he wants in the fifty five

775
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: million range. So just to give you and the reason

776
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: I say, did they leak it because he was off

777
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: a really bad performance where again he struggled because it

778
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: rained a little bit. He's got smaller hands. So against

779
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: the Rams, zero touchdowns, one pick, against Buffalo, eleven completions,

780
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: ninety four yards Green Bay, he was hurt. Kansas City

781
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: he was awful, no touchdown, three picks, and the four

782
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: big games this year he's been bad. And again he

783
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: has he is. He can struggle with wet weather. He

784
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: doesn't have big hands. But when I saw the story

785
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: coming out and people say, well, you know he's beaten

786
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: Dak three times, well that that doesn't mean anything. That

787
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: Dallas made a bad deal with Dak, Cleveland made a

788
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: bad deal with Deshaun Watson for other reasons. That doesn't

789
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: mean San Francisco's beholden to follow them. But when I

790
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: saw that story on brock Purty, might take was why

791
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: did that story? Why is it coming out now? I

792
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: could never pay brock pretty fifty five million. You're more

793
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: comfortable with it, though, I.

794
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: Think, uh, fifty five million. That's listen. My deal with

795
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: brock Purty is this first and foremost, I think we've

796
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: got to look at the way the Niners negotiate charl Williams,

797
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: one of the greatest left tackles ever. They just had

798
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: a staring contest with him til week one. Nick Bose

799
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: is one of the better players they've had over the

800
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: last twenty years. He did not have a contract till

801
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: a couple days before, you know, the season started, so

802
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: that they do not just hand out money to all

803
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: time great talents. Brandon Ayuk who has been a high

804
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: end winning player for them, and a legit, he's not

805
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: a top ten wider set, but a really good player.

806
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: They had a knockdown, drag out Deebo Samuel carried them

807
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: to the playoffs in twenty twenty one. That was not

808
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: an easy contract to do. So this guy, listen, His

809
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: deep ball is a problem right now. Yeah, it's atrocious.

810
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: And one thing that separated in that second half when

811
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: the rains stopped. Stafford was good. He was not. Now

812
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: he did. Deebo had the one drop, but he was

813
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: I think I saw stat o of seven on balls

814
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: down the field passed twenty yards and he's and the

815
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: pick at the end. If you're going to pay a

816
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: guy like Brock Purty. Right, his that Josh Allen play

817
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: today where he scrambled, got hit late and throw it.

818
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: He could never dream about doing that, so that's never

819
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: gonna be his game. Well, Drew Brees couldn't dream of

820
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: doing things Aaron Rodgers did, Steve Young couldn't dream of

821
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: doing things John Elway did. So they had to be

822
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: an elite and this term sounds like a turn off.

823
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: These got are Hall of famers. Manage the game, never

824
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: turned the ball over, make the great decisions. I could

825
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: not have a guy who has limited physical skills that

826
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: has a bad decision in the big games. The seasons

827
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: on line right, and that decision to throw it to

828
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennyings the game ended. They never got the ball

829
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: back and there was multiple checkdown options. And he has

830
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: some moments in these bigger games where were like, ah,

831
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: the decisions and listen. Obviously the leadership and he is

832
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: a good player, But to me, it's I'm offering the

833
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones Baker deal or we're just not doing a

834
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: deal when we're playing it out, because that's where it's

835
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: at because once I give the fifty plus million, well

836
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: then I'm paying you like Joshua Lamar and we already

837
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: know no one argues, including his representation or his parents

838
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: even Brock, You're not that guy, so I can't pay

839
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: you that. And then look at the Stephen Joneses comments,

840
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: we're all in on probably makes you happy because you

841
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 1: want to trade Micah. We're all in on CD and Dek,

842
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: so we'll see with Micah right, well, they're all in

843
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: on deck if they could have that one over, Like

844
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: was that the right move? And I think when you

845
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: pay these guys that are somewhere between like seven and fifteen,

846
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: it's got to be perfect. And when it's not perfect,

847
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: they josh could carry you no matter what. Mahomes can

848
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: be an awesome player when shit's hitting the fan. Lamar

849
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: could play with me and you out there and make plays.

850
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: Brock cannut, We know that much. And you just saw

851
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: against the Rams where it's like all the shit's hitting

852
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: the fan for both teams. One guy just rises above it.

853
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: Why because he's an elite talent and he has been

854
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: for twenty years? Why was the number one pick and

855
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: the other guy who again I've supported, but I cannot

856
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: support that that decision that the interception represents what one percent.

857
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: He could never do because I got to have you

858
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: be like, well, he's the smartest player in the league.

859
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: He makes the best decisions. Wasn't that always a Drew

860
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Brees thing. Drew never tried to make passes like Aaron

861
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: because he knew he couldn't. He didn't try to do

862
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: that because he had to play within himself. And once

863
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: I see that, it's like and sometimes perty this goes

864
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: back to when he was coming out of college. People

865
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: liked him because remember his junior y, he was really good.

866
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: I always stated, I think won ten games. Then his

867
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: senior year lost a couple guys Breese Hall, and the

868
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: word was little bit reckless and a gun slinger. Yeah,

869
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: you can't be a gun slinger when you don't have

870
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: a gun. Right if you have, you know you got

871
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: more of a BB gun. That gets back to when

872
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: people made fun of the Andy Daltons of the world.

873
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: Their arms not big enough to play like that, so

874
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: you got to kind of contain yourself. That's the type

875
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: stuff that has to drive Kyle mad. But they're kind

876
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: of stuck, like what else do they do? I looked

877
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: at the draft order day there you know they're having

878
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: this atrocious season, think of what like the Jets and

879
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Jags would do for their season.

880
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: They're drafting right now, like fourteenth or fifteenth, you know,

881
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: depending on how the tiebreakers go. They're not nearly high enough.

882
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: So it's like, but would they entertain like Drew Aller

883
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: or something, you know, I don't know. I'm having conversations

884
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: about everything right now if.

885
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: I'm them, Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's funny because

886
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: Brock pretty who, by the way, is also getting a

887
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: little bit of an injury bug, which considering good. Yeah,

888
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Allen's banging into people left and right,

889
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: and he's not dealing with injuries. So you know, it's

890
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: I if Brock Curdy was in the last year of

891
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 2: his contract, like like like like let's say it ran out,

892
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 2: you know, in three or four weeks, I think they'd

893
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 2: go get Donald again.

894
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: I really do.

895
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 2: I think they'd make a run for Donald because they're

896
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: familiar with him. He's an athlete, and you could get

897
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: him for forty nobody's gonna pay Sam sixty. Helly, you

898
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: franchise tag him. It's like forty forty one.

899
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a hard time if I'm Brock's representation,

900
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: and this is where the market got screwed up because

901
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: guy like Trevor Lawrence, who hadn't done anything, got two

902
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Even what you want to say about Dak,

903
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: like he has a ten year resume up until this

904
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: year of winning a lot of games like he's been

905
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: doing it. I think that I think the Trevor Lawrence

906
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: thing kind of screws the forty nine ers because if

907
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: I'd just be like, well, look at my numbers, look

908
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: at my wins compared to this guy, right, even Trevor

909
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, it was atrocious before he got injured.

910
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: But I know the Niners, and I know the way

911
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: Parrague operates. Listen, it's John and Kyle, but their money guy.

912
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: They do not just hand over money. Now, if you

913
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: want to take team friendly deals, they do a lot

914
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: of the early or at least they used to when

915
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: the economics were a little lower, with the Willises and

916
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: the Bowman's and the frank Rs. Those days get a

917
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: little harder because these guys drive a hard bargain because

918
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: the amount of money and the nine are stare at

919
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: you right in the face, and they don't flinch till

920
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: the last minute where it's Trent Bosa. Okay, but with

921
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: the pretty thing like what's the goin is? Would he

922
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: hold out? Would he hold out or do a hold in?

923
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: I doubt it. And I also think you just give him.

924
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: Here's three years, one hundred million dollars. We'll guarantee every penny,

925
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: So like thirty million dollars a year, thirty two million dollars.

926
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: What's he gonna do not sign it? Yeah, I actually

927
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: think it's a pretty good you know, relative to your

928
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: skill set. I think it's a complicated thing because of

929
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: the previous years, but I think this year has to

930
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: bode pretty well for them. They've had big spots and

931
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: he just he has made mistakes. You can go, well,

932
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: the talent's not there. And I had a buddy in

933
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: the league say, I think two weeks ago they were

934
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: missing one hundred and ten million dollars against the Bills,

935
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: and last week I calculated just between the three guys, Trent,

936
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: CMC and IUK, it was like almost eighty million. But

937
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: like that, Welcome to the NFL. A lot of guys

938
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: get injured.

939
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: We got anyways, Lamar Jackson entered the season with a

940
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: rebuilt offensive line, and Derreck Henry was brand new. You

941
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: just deal with it. I mean, like like last year,

942
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews was hurt all year, Say Flowers was a rookie,

943
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: you just deal with it. This year, Lamar's got a

944
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: terrible back end defense, He's got a brand new offensive line.

945
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear excuses Josh Allen for years.

946
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: This is one of the first years he's had a

947
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: running back and two capable tight ends.

948
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: I also think it would be on the table if

949
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: you're Brock and they're just offering you something that you

950
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones' contract will like, we're not budget, so

951
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: it's either this or nothing. What if you just went Flaco?

952
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: Because I say this about the Niners, like they're having

953
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: an atrocious season with a million injuries and they're still

954
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: gonna end up with seven or eight wins if they're

955
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: a little healthier next year. They draft pretty well. They

956
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: know the type guys they're looking for. What if you

957
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: go next year, we'll win eleven or twelve and then

958
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we're in the second or third

959
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: round the playoffs, and then I have more bargaining power.

960
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: I think that would be on the table as well.

961
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: He is, you know whenever I'm home. Maybe their national

962
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: commercials too. He's making a lot of money off the

963
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: field being the quarterback for the Niners. So what you've

964
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: always said about Dak like you can take a little less.

965
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: You know how much money you make as the cowboy quarterback.

966
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: It's like what Mahomes did. His contract's kind of fake.

967
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: He did the Chiefs so solid, like because Patrick knw

968
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: we'll keep winning and I am going to print money

969
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: a little Brady style. Why is Brady so valuable because

970
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: he has like seven championships. If Brady had won, it

971
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the same. Why is Mahomes gonna be talked

972
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 1: about like he's Michael Jordan for the next fifty years

973
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: because he's gonna have four or five championships when it's

974
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: all said and done, right. So I do think Brock

975
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: is pretty small. I could also see the agent though

976
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean this, I don't know who his representation is,

977
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: but I would imagine it's not exactly Tom Condon coming

978
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: out of the draft as the last pick in the draft,

979
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: probably getting ready to cash in, and he's he's gonna

980
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: deal with a pretty tough negotiator here in the forty

981
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: nine ers. I'll promise you that.

982
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: So I have said, I think Bill Belichick's gonna last

983
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: one year in college and very interesting his contract. And

984
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: you know the lawyers went after this big time. There's

985
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: no way Carolina wanted to give this up. Bill can

986
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: leave July first of next year. I mean he could

987
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: leave before he coaches a game, a single game. Now

988
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 2: he's not going to because nobody hires. So he can

989
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 2: leave before he coaches a game. Nobody hires at that point.

990
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: So that's not the point. The point is one and

991
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: done is very possible. I think he's going to jettison

992
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: college football. I think he's going to be aggravated this

993
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: This staff he's building is a pro staff. They're going

994
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: to rub people the wrong way in the building. It's

995
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: going to be Charlie Weiss times ten, where Charlie just

996
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: wore people out. Charlitie was a good enough coach, not

997
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: a great recruiter, wore people out in the building. I

998
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: don't think this Belichick group fits college. I think their

999
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: personalities are kurt outspoken by pro standards. John it is rough,

1000
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 2: it's hard, it doesn't work in many pro in it's

1001
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: not going to work. In college, there was a story

1002
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: Diana Russini reported that he showed interest in the Jets,

1003
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, if Bill showed interest in the Jets,

1004
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: he hates what he Johnson that this to me if

1005
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: you look at his drafts. Like urban Meyer who told

1006
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: me years ago, I don't watch Sunday football. I'm preparing

1007
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 2: for the next week. Bill doesn't watch Saturday football, watch

1008
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: their drafts. He's and the minute he takes over the drafts,

1009
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: he doesn't know what he's doing. He's NFL guys don't

1010
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: watch a lot of Saturday. College guys don't watch Sunday.

1011
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. And I saw that Jet story. What

1012
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: did you make of it?

1013
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: Well, my first reaction was I don't believe it. Because

1014
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: Bill it's been his arch nemesis. The hatred was palpable

1015
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: for the last twenty five years. He despised the Jets.

1016
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: Then he finally gets a microphone in front of him

1017
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: for the last six months, and he you know, he'd

1018
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: pick his spots when to be critical and name people.

1019
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: He never hesitated with Woody Johnson. The moment they hired

1020
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Robert Saw, he put all his chips in the middle

1021
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: of the table, I would say, was as critical of

1022
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: him as anyone in the quote unquote media, especially like

1023
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: NFL type person. And he didn't talk like that about

1024
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: other people. So my reaction was, listen, I know, Mike

1025
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: Tannebaum and everyone reported that, you know, Woody didn't tell

1026
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: people this. Mike who's running the search, told people. And

1027
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: they've known each other since Cleveland. I I have a

1028
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: hard time seeing Bill beg the Jets, And that would

1029
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: be an easy one if you're Woody Johnson. You know,

1030
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: everyone keeps talking about people or Bill flipping the middle

1031
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: finger in the NFL flipping the middle finger to him,

1032
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: a bunch of fus going back and forth. This would

1033
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: be an easy one for Woody, Like, let's put out

1034
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: there that Bill was begging me for a job, because

1035
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: what's Bill gonna do leak something when he's in North Carolina.

1036
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of like he's just off doing something else. Now,

1037
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: if it is true, which I mean very credible, people

1038
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: are reporting this pretty embarrassing for Bill, that he's begging

1039
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: the Jets for interest, I mean, and maybe he knows

1040
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: and that's obviously the contract. I remember Simmons used to

1041
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: write about like when celebrities would date and one celebrity

1042
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: would be way more famous than the other celebrity, it

1043
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: would be hard to maintain that relationship, but it would

1044
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: usually end badly. When they're both Demi Moore and Bruce

1045
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: Willis right, two famous people, they could work well. This

1046
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: is Belichick's fame and his football aura is in a

1047
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: different planet than UNC football, so he could take advantage

1048
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: of them in a negotiation that never happens at that level.

1049
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: No one would sign a five year contract new football

1050
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: coach and put that in. But also if he's if

1051
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: it is true began Woody Johnson for the Jets job,

1052
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: is he gonna have that many more options in a year? Like?

1053
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: What would he have to do if his stock is

1054
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: low right now? Would he have to go ten and

1055
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: two in year one? Like? Could he just go six

1056
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: and six and people would think highly of them? I

1057
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I actually kind of believe he

1058
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: just might be stuck there and he's just all in

1059
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: because the one thing people well, I remember being I

1060
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: think in college and reading the Halbertstam book, and he's

1061
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: he can get sentimental only about his father. I think

1062
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: the dad thing means something to him and his dad

1063
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: having coaching there. He brought out that sweatshirt that he

1064
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: had from UNC when he was there. So I just

1065
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be potential options. And I just

1066
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: think he might just be stuck there. But you're right,

1067
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was a pretty glaring like that's

1068
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: not getting put in any of these contracts.

1069
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that he can leave before he

1070
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: coaches the game is wild.

1071
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: I mean, but don't you take the ten million dollar

1072
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: buyout even to start is relatively low. They can't fire

1073
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: these guys five years in that their buyouts are fifty million.

1074
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just I think, I mean, Urban Meyer just

1075
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: didn't fit pro football. I don't think Bill's personality. I

1076
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: don't think it fits college. He was introduced at a

1077
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: basketball game and it just looked so odd. It was like, oh,

1078
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 2: this does And by the way, I've called multiple people

1079
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: that you know, no Bill, and they just can't. They

1080
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: just can't wrap their brain around it. So I'm I

1081
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: can root for something I can simultaneously hope he does well.

1082
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: I want to watch the games, but think it could

1083
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: be a mess. It won't be It's not like they'll

1084
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: win four games the ACC is bad, their schedules embarrassing.

1085
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: They get.

1086
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: The toughest game they play is Clemson. I mean they

1087
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: get it's a bunch of wake Forest. I mean those

1088
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 2: are the tough ones. Syracuse it is Duke it's bad.

1089
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 2: And North Carolinas always had pretty good players.

1090
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1091
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: I just when I saw the Jet story, I thought, wow,

1092
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 2: I want to touch on this. So Ashton Genty finished

1093
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: the second to Travis Hunter in the Heisman. Now that's

1094
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: what I would have voted. I think when you have

1095
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: a historically unique player like Travis Hunter who played against

1096
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: much better competition. And my take on college football in

1097
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: the NFL, it doesn't really matter who you play. If

1098
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: you win, you're division, you're in. If you qualify for

1099
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you're in. It does matter in college That's

1100
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: why there's four Big Ten teams in the playoffs, three

1101
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: SEC teams in the playoff, and two ACC teams in

1102
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: the playoff because the ACC is weaker. So it does

1103
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: matter who you play in college. And Ashton Genty had

1104
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy yards and six t d's against

1105
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: Georgia Southern. Now he was good against Utah State one

1106
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: hundred eighty six yards. He was very good against San

1107
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: Jose State and Wyoming and Hawaii and UNLV. Hell, he

1108
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 2: got three touchdowns against Oregon. I'm not denying any of that.

1109
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: He who had two hundred and nine yards against Nevada,

1110
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 2: But it is it is hard for me with about

1111
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 2: eighty percent, because I consider Oregon and UNLV a couple

1112
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: of times pretty solid teams. But it is hard for

1113
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: me in college. Hell, you could probably go every third

1114
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 2: year and find somebody at Holy Cross, you know who

1115
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: dialed up big numbers. I do think your schedule matters.

1116
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 2: I've said this about college football. If your road games,

1117
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: what is your road attendance? If the average road attendance

1118
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: you face is like thirty three thousand, it's different than

1119
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 2: playing in Camp Randall and the Shoe and Michigan and Otson.

1120
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 2: So I wasn't bothered by it. Travis Hunter played against

1121
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: better players. Did it bother you that this kid that's

1122
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: going to go in the first round finished second?

1123
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: No? I mean I would have voted listen. I got

1124
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: my start out of college in the Whack, which at

1125
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: the time was Boise State. Now that turned into the

1126
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: Mountain West. It is not the same and at President State,

1127
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: Pat Hill always would hang his hat on. Our three

1128
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: non conference games were against power five, big time opponents.

1129
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: It's a different world than playing New Mexico and San

1130
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: Diego State, and listen he is. I would say he

1131
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: is a universal favorite of amongst the NFL scouted community.

1132
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: Genty honestly is only not because he's like five eighth.

1133
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: If he was six feet tall or five to eleven,

1134
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a lock top ten pick. I

1135
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: do think he's gonna be a fascinating draft prospect because

1136
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: his tape is like I mean, it's about as unique

1137
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: and dominant as you'll see. But he's small. I mean,

1138
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: you see a five eight running back going in the

1139
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: top fifteen. That's hard. But I think he'll end up

1140
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: going in the first round. I think Travis Hunter. I

1141
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: bet there are a lot of players, let's just pick

1142
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, either wide receivers or corners, that

1143
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: if they had played the opposite position. You know, if

1144
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: they're a wide receiver and they had played corner or

1145
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: corner and played wide receiver, that they could have been

1146
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: elite and been a first round pick, and they were

1147
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: first round pick at the position they played. But we

1148
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,479
Speaker 1: have never seen a guy literally play them both since

1149
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: like the leather helmet days and be universally accepted. He's

1150
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: the number one corner. He might not be the number

1151
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: one wide receiver, but he's a lock if he was

1152
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: only a wide receiver to go in the top ten

1153
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: or twelve. I mean it's in every single game, and

1154
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: you're watching as the season went on that this can't,

1155
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: he can't, and then he just would. And it's just

1156
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten snaps, one hundred and five snaps,

1157
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve snaps and in the big twelve

1158
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: playing corner, which to me is harder than wide receiver

1159
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: to be good at because to be that's a passing conference.

1160
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: So he's run around to be able to play wide receiver,

1161
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: and he dominated at I also thought one he sounded

1162
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: like just a great guy and he feels like an

1163
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: easy person to root for. What if you're Colorado and

1164
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: you pulled the trigger on hiring Deon Sanders. I know

1165
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: year one was a disaster, but in terms of the

1166
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: popularity it brought you, it was a win. To be

1167
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: year two have your first Heisman since the running back

1168
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: in ninety four, to go nine and three to have

1169
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: this guy and Shadoor, which are gonna be top five picks.

1170
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: I just don't think it gets any better. I mean,

1171
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: it's an all time turnaround at a program that ninety

1172
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: percent of the coaches that would have gone there would

1173
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, best case this year would have been like

1174
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: six and six and there would be no top ten picks.

1175
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: The guy won a Heisman and you hear the way.

1176
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: And part of this is why Dion, It's also why

1177
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: I think Bill will be fine in recruiting, is because

1178
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: I think what really, you know, Deon's Dion acts like

1179
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: Dion since I was a kid he was playing. He

1180
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: just acts the same. Now he's just a coach like Bill,

1181
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: just be yourself, you know. I think that's why Brian

1182
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: Kelly takes some shit. He kind of acts like he

1183
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: kind of faking. It's like being a politician like Saban

1184
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: just felt like Saban, right, Kirby just feels like they

1185
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: just they're very comfortable in their own skin. Even Chip.

1186
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: You know, Chip's kind of honoree. He's not gonna kiss

1187
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: your right. But that's how he's been for fifteen twenty years.

1188
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: And I think Dion, it's remarkable what they accomplished. It

1189
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: really is now. I checked recruiting rankings before. They're not

1190
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: very high for this next year. But Dion's not big

1191
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: on the high school kids, that's big on the portal,

1192
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: so it's hard to totally judge him that way. But

1193
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was a really cool moment for just

1194
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: when are we ever gonna see this again? Coln He

1195
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: starts at two positions corner non quarterbacks, one of the

1196
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: harder positions to play, and he's that's where everyone in

1197
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: the NFL is begging him to play.

1198
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: Please play corner, right, Yeah, I think he'll be a

1199
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: better corner than an offensive player in the NFL. He's

1200
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: a hundred and eighty five eighty eight pounds, he'll probably

1201
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: be a corner because timing is such an essential part

1202
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: of the better quarterbacks in the NFL. It's hard for

1203
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: me to see an elite quarterback saying, yeah, okay, kid,

1204
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 2: you'll just be here for half the practice. I don't

1205
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: that's just not the Brady's, the Rogers, the Staffords. Like golfs,

1206
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: they want you in on every snap, like the idea

1207
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: that you're going to be on the other side. But

1208
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: I do think if he goes to a really bad team.

1209
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: My guess is the Giants have the number one.

1210
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: He's going to a bad team because it's going to

1211
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: be he might be the first overall pick.

1212
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: Call well, I think yeah, I mean the Giants. I

1213
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: would say it would take Shador Sanders. Vegas could take

1214
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: cam Ward, maybe Travis Hunter, you know, maybe again. I

1215
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: could see Vegas going for Sam Darnold and saying we'll

1216
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: take Travis Hunter number two. I could absolutely see that

1217
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: because not te LESCo and cam Ward's interesting, Like, I

1218
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: don't know if that's the personality fit he wants because

1219
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: cam is edgy and Tom's not into that. But so

1220
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: my take though, he's probably again for a bad team,

1221
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: play both ways, but I might I think he'll end

1222
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: up settling as a corner. Am I wrong?

1223
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 1: Well that's what everyone's pushing him to play. But when

1224
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: you look at the contracts, it pays to be a

1225
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Column that's what That's what I wonder about.

1226
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon, I you caught seventy five balls and

1227
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: he got seventy five million and thirty a year, So

1228
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, and if you're good now, I don't

1229
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: know if he's justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase, but those

1230
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: guys get Nick Bosa money, so financially now, I do

1231
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: think we're going to see You know, everyone thought that

1232
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: Sas Gardner was the greatest thing since Darrell Reeves and

1233
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. Well, actually the better player is Derek Stingley,

1234
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: and he's going to be up for a new contract,

1235
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, and even Sauce, if they

1236
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: get a new coach and he gets back to playing

1237
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: good football, you're talking eighty nine. I think their numbers

1238
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: will get much higher. With some of these younger Patrick's

1239
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: retain higher numbers at corner that will continue to rise.

1240
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: But the NFL wants them to play that because it's

1241
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: much easier to find a wide receiver. I can find

1242
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: a guy in the third or fourth round who can

1243
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: catch me eighty balls. It's Sauce, Gardner and Derek Stingley.

1244
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: We're top five picks, you know, to get the high

1245
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: end guy like Richard Sherman's an all time outlier, a

1246
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame level player that you find in the

1247
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: fifth round like that doesn't happen very often a corner.

1248
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: Most guys are drafted high at that position, but like,

1249
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: what if he wants to play both ways? But my

1250
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 1: theory on that is, I do think physically it's very

1251
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: hard to play corner against every team as good a

1252
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: receivers now, so we said it was hard in college

1253
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: to go to the NFL to do it. It'd be

1254
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: hard to you know, maintain your health doing both, I

1255
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: think at the NFL level. And two, if you're a team,

1256
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: if you're my starting corner, one of my starting wide receivers,

1257
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: if you get injured, I lose two spots. Right, So

1258
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird spot to be in, right.

1259
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 1: It's why I thought one day, well, if you could

1260
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: pay him, could he just shatter records and get this

1261
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: unique contract because he's like show. Well, let's say in

1262
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: five years he's actually does both and I give him

1263
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars. Well, then he breaks

1264
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: his leg. I just lost my best wide receiver in

1265
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: my best corner. If Stingley gets hurt, I don't also

1266
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: lose Nico Collins, right, So it becomes a little there's listen,

1267
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: Dion was an awesome player to watch as a kid.

1268
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: They let Dion play some wide receiver to just make

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Speaker 1: him happy. But he wasn't just running out every play

1270
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: with Michael Irvin or Jerry Rice right this dominated corner,

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01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: which I think everyone's going to push him to be.

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01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: But you know, agents and money people go, well, look

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01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: at these wide receivers, how much money they're making. So

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's going to be a little you know,

1275
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: tug of war on the business side. Also the Shador thing.

1276
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: Could you Chadoor in the in prime and the Marra family?

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Speaker 1: Sign me up for that because you talk about it,

1278
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: talk about a team that needs some life. You talk

1279
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: about a lifeless franchise right now.

1280
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Speaker 2: I text Ian O'Connor, very respected New York columnist today,

1281
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: and I said, are they going to keep Brian day bullies?

1282
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: He's safe and his tech to me, without getting into everything,

1283
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: he said was they would like to. But you've got

1284
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: planes flying overhead. They're getting blown out. I mean the Jets,

1285
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: to their credit, they're playing their ass off today. I

1286
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: mean Aaron the last time weeks they are. But let

1287
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: me just give Aaron some credit here, because I know

1288
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: everybody thinks I pick on just to give Aaron some credit.

1289
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: Let's see here we go, Aaron Rodgers. If you go

1290
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: look at his last Aaron in his last seven games

1291
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: has thirteen touchdowns of pick and one hundred passer rating.

1292
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Speaker 2: So the DeVante thing, if you watch today, they've got

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01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: a real relationship. Now it takes time. So Aaron and

1294
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: Davante are cooking. I like their personnel. It's you know,

1295
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: I said last week on FS one, I kind of

1296
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: thought the Giants had a brighter future. But it looks

1297
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 2: like to me, the New York Giants have quit on

1298
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: Brian Dable.

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Speaker 1: I would agree. I thought that game was unworld I mean,

1300
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: the the Raven watch, it was a practice, it was

1301
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: a joke. Say this about the Jets that they threw

1302
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: up a stat you know down the stretch of the game.

1303
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: I think they were. They were. They've lost five games

1304
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: with fourth quarter leads, and coming in today they were

1305
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: zero to seven in games decided by less than a touchdown,

1306
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: So they have been in a lot of these games.

1307
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I think people could make the

1308
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: argument is listen, they were never going to take out

1309
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: the Bills to win the East, but this season could

1310
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: easily be closer to five hundred if a couple of

1311
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: things go right for him now today, because part of

1312
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: it right, remember their schedule started hard and it got

1313
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: easier at the end, and they they.

1314
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: Won and had four hundred yards of offense.

1315
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Aaron was good today. Like if they got

1316
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: that Aaron. Now again, they're playing the Jags, who have

1317
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: an awful defense from just a bad team. But if

1318
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: he played like that, they would be okay. And like

1319
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: you said, DeVante, even Lazard, they had to play that.

1320
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: He dropped a ball, Aaron was putting it. One thing

1321
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: I had been critical on Aaron's like, God, is he

1322
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: lost his his Just it'sure accuracy that made him such

1323
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: a special player. Today he was hitting guys in the

1324
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: hands constantly and he wasn't missing the layup place. And yeah,

1325
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean I it'll be fascinating to see what happens there.

1326
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: They got a lot of cooks in the kitchen. You

1327
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: tannebomb running this search. You know, I think John Mora,

1328
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: I think he's just hesitant to just keep firing people

1329
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: over and over. But like, what are you supposed to do?

1330
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: Like this ain't working out?

1331
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Macado and Shermer and Sludge or not Sol excuse me,

1332
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 2: Jojo Machado, Judge Shermer, Solis Jets. Yeah, Aaron went sixteen

1333
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: to thirty two hundred and ninety yards three touchdowns. He

1334
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: also ran six times and average seven and a half

1335
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 2: yards a run. So whereas Kirk Cousins off of surgery

1336
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: and forty has I mean, it's gone off the cliff

1337
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: Aaron's actually, I think last week in a losing cause.

1338
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: Last two weeks I've watched there and I thought he's

1339
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: been really good.

1340
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: I would agree. I mean, he's been way better than

1341
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: he was early in the season, which is kind of

1342
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: I would get. I guess if you're a Jets fan

1343
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: or just someone that like he might be on the

1344
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: team somewhat optimistic, you would think it would go the

1345
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: other way. Older player forty forty one years old would

1346
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: fall for Cliff as the season went on. He's actually

1347
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: still has a lot of energy. Kind of hit me

1348
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: today watching those two teams, because at one point time

1349
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: it looked like the Jets were gonna lose. I mean,

1350
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: Devanta had like two hundred yards today. Is is it

1351
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: kind of crazy that the NFL is hitting all time

1352
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: popularity with the Jets and the Giants really for the

1353
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: last decade plus being just atrocious football teams.

1354
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: I've said this recently. The most successful teams in this

1355
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: league are Kansas City, Green Bay, Baltimore, Buffalo. Those are

1356
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: your franchises. The New York teams are a mess. Chicago's

1357
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: a mess. Until this year, DC fifth, sixth biggest city

1358
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 2: in the country, was a mess. A high profile team

1359
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh, not a Super Bowl contender like you start

1360
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: looking around, Dallas, the biggest brand in the league. Really

1361
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: regressing quickly. It is remarkable. In the NBA, you've got

1362
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: you know, New York's viable. I mean, the Warriors are

1363
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: still viable. The Lakers won in the bubble several years ago.

1364
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: I mean, Dallas is good. That's a big market team.

1365
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: Philadelphia is good, Austin's good. Those are big market cities.

1366
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: Houston another big market interesting. Hawks playing well in Atlanta

1367
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: and their ratings are no circling the drain. The NFL's

1368
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 2: biggest markets are a mess, and on a lot of

1369
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: instances they're unwatchable. And it just shows the power of

1370
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: the NFL. I think there's a lot of reasons the

1371
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: NFL is king. It's relatable, we watch it, we bet it.

1372
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: It's built for television. There's one game a week. As

1373
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: society gets wider and more distracting. It's one game a week.

1374
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: I think that's a huge part of it. But college

1375
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 2: football ratings are up, and women's basketball ratings are up,

1376
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: and March Madness was up. The NBA continues to just

1377
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: not I think the load management, I think the aesthetics.

1378
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: Everybody's shooting for threes, and I think they have their

1379
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: best players in the wrong markets. But I don't know

1380
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: if a league is bulletproof. But I mean, I sit

1381
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 2: around and I can't wait for Sundays. I mean, the

1382
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: early window today was pretty awful. It was it was

1383
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: it was the worst early window of the season. But

1384
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't wait for the afternoon. And I think that's

1385
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: the power of the sport. It just it just makes

1386
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: me think about it before the day starts.

1387
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: I also think this the explosion of college football, the NIL,

1388
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: the transfer portal, now the playoffs. You're just watching the

1389
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: incoming talent, so you just get to basically fans get

1390
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: to scout. It's pretty clear all the best teams have

1391
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: the best players. That's why I actually think Belichick is

1392
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna be I mean, how many big time games I

1393
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: would imagine over the next couple of weeks they got

1394
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: money to spend gonna land some transfer portal guys. I

1395
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: just saw they kept the best recruit they had in

1396
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: the class was a quarterback. They kept them like if

1397
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: they are interesting next year. That just bleeds into the

1398
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: NFL because it's all kind of layered now. I feel

1399
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: like it starts on Saturday. I don't know about you.

1400
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: It was nice actually to take a deep breath. It's

1401
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: been a long season. But I did also miss, like

1402
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: you know it, with a lot of respect for the

1403
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: Army Navy guys. I love the over in that game.

1404
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: What those two team's been scoring a lot of points.

1405
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: But I missed just the SEC game or Ohio State

1406
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: or Michigan. There just wasn't anything. It was weird. It

1407
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: was a weird feeling yesterday without it.

1408
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: You know, it really was John Middlecoff, former NFL scout

1409
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: three and out. We do our hour to hour fifteen.

1410
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 2: We do it every Sunday. I'm gonna go. When I

1411
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: watch the Packers, I'm crossing my fingers. I have them

1412
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: minus two and a half. I do not remember having

1413
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: an zero for four early day. And not only did

1414
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: I go oh for four, all of my teams got run.

1415
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 2: I mean I was on the Rock. I almost picked

1416
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 2: Denver to win and cover. I got talked out of it.

1417
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 2: Shame on me, but I've had better weeks.

1418
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: I dare you to pick the Raiders tomorrow on television.

1419
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: I kind of like them. They're bound to take someone

1420
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: out down the stretch, a weird game and falcons. I'm

1421
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: right I'd be taken out.

1422
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: I thought that about Cleveland today and boy was I wrong.

1423
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. See Car the Volume