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Speaker 1: Wow, fantasy freak since geeks, what's up? And you've got

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Speaker 1: to be a fantasy freaker geek to be listening to

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Speaker 1: us right now, and I appreciate it. I love it. James,

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Speaker 1: go here. You're listening to the NFL Fansy Live podcast.

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Speaker 1: We got the magical Beard of Fantasy. Matt Franciskovic. What's up?

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Speaker 1: I'm here, you're here, you're living. I'm living living day

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Speaker 1: to day. That's right, day to day. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where my next meal is coming from, but I'm here.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, the Whiskid f Wisconsin. Alexei Kalahar, what's cracking?

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Speaker 1: Not too much? Got to the theater last night, which

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Speaker 1: is always good. Some office Christmas party on cheap night

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Speaker 1: getting high fee for this for this Green Bay, New

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not even close to the weekend yet,

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Speaker 1: so I don't want to start my emotional tilt. But

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Speaker 1: being full force. On Sunday, my father and my sister

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Speaker 1: He swung his way into two tickets and the two

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Speaker 1: MGM my got Marcus Grant? What's up? Uh? Did you

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Speaker 1: hear um Usc run the Rose Bowl? My timeline was

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Speaker 1: just so annoying. It was. It was the most annoying.

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Speaker 1: third quarter. I don't know that was meltdown because it

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Speaker 1: I mean the past I got knocked out too. That

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Speaker 1: was a great game fantastic game. I got to be

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Speaker 1: I was there, guys, did Brian go with you too?

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Speaker 1: marquee matchup. That's so much. That's so much West Virginia. Harmon,

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Speaker 1: whole podcast. Water intake is important. People shocking you should be.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna explain playoff challenge. If you can't get enough

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty fun game. UH, low stakes obviously, so

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Speaker 1: the camera highlights in the world of sports, freaking, breaking news, breaking,

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Speaker 1: continue to follow breaking news, kids, your wife. These headlines

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Speaker 1: really kind of I guess play into playoff challenge and

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Speaker 1: we'll explain that in just a minute. But Connor Cook

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Speaker 1: picking Brady because he's on by this week, right, so

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Speaker 1: that might be playing and assuming that the Packers are

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Speaker 1: going to move on to next week or correct. So,

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Speaker 1: and you can see those ownership percentages in the tool

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Speaker 1: when you go into building NFL dot Com Slash Playoff Challenge.

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Speaker 1: But okay, guys, if you want to play at home, MG, um,

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Speaker 1: I went heavy Patriots. I I'm one of the people

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Speaker 1: who has Tom Brady, So I got Brady La, Garrett Blunt, UH,

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Speaker 1: the Ghost and uh in the Patriots defense because I

433
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Speaker 1: have a pretty good feeling that in their second round

434
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Speaker 1: so they have to buy and then the visional round,

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're going to get a shot at

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Speaker 1: either uh Brock Osweiler or Connor Cook, which you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of makes me confident they'll probably Uh. I did

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Speaker 1: go with a couple of Packers because I just have

439
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Speaker 1: a feeling they're gonna I think they'll they'll slide out

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Speaker 1: of the NFC and be you know they were. Actually

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Speaker 1: my preseason Super Bowl prediction was Packers Patriots. Um it

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Speaker 1: would be the you know, the the quarterback matchup to

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Speaker 1: end all quarterback matchups. Um, so I've I've got Jordy

444
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Speaker 1: Nelson and Davante Adams in there. I do have Zeke

445
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Speaker 1: Elliott at the running back spot because obviously I can

446
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Speaker 1: get double points from him next round and he is

447
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Speaker 1: good at football. Uh. The only the only player I

448
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Speaker 1: have that I think, you know that I just kind

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Speaker 1: of went with based on matchups and ability is Travis Kelsey. Again,

450
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Speaker 1: he has a bye, but he's been the hottest tight

451
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Speaker 1: end going for the last month or so and get

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Speaker 1: those double points in the second round there. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel I feel pretty confident about this one. We'll say,

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Speaker 1: Matt Harmon, Yeah, I went heavy Chiefs and Falcons. Did

455
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Speaker 1: you think if you're gonna go with for Falcons? I mean,

456
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Speaker 1: the logic there is they were they were the best

457
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Speaker 1: offense this year. They scored points, which amazingly seventy one

458
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Speaker 1: points more than the Saints, who were the second highest

459
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Speaker 1: scoring offense. It's it's a lot of points, which you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about this, you know later on for next year,

461
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Speaker 1: but that's a that's a number that's gonna that's outra

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Speaker 1: that's gonna come down, yeah, by the way, So but

463
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Speaker 1: for this year, it's going to be a started Russia

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Speaker 1: talk when he's seventeen, Okay, hereon watch here we go.

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Speaker 1: But so I mean speaking of somebody that's probably gonna

466
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Speaker 1: regress next year, you know, from a touchdown to touch perspective,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Coleman I think makes a really good play in

468
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Speaker 1: these because he's been a big play threat all year.

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Speaker 1: He has I think three touchdowns of thirty or more yards.

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Speaker 1: He's also been a red zone factor. He scored on

471
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Speaker 1: forty six point seven percent of his touches inside the

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Speaker 1: ten yard line, which again astronomically high. But if that

473
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Speaker 1: continues into the playoffs, you got a good chance. And

474
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Speaker 1: he's zero percent started right now because everyone's gonna go

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Speaker 1: with Free and everyone will be I think he climbed

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Speaker 1: up to one percent. Well, he's under He had eleven

477
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Speaker 1: total touchdowns this year. That's crazy and miss games, yeah

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Speaker 1: he might be. He had eleven point five touches per game.

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Speaker 1: That's scored eleven touchdown so it's pretty pretty outrageous. You know,

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Speaker 1: have something to watch for next year. Um, but I

481
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Speaker 1: think that that that he would make a good like

482
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Speaker 1: kind of contrarian play as well. I gotta imagine if

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Speaker 1: you're taking Chief, you'd like Tyree Hill, you could you

484
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Speaker 1: could definitely go with Tyree Kill. I think, you know,

485
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Speaker 1: in the in the potential scenario and painting here where

486
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Speaker 1: the Falcons make it to the super Bowl and see

487
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, then you might it's hard, does not say

488
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Speaker 1: Julio Jones. And also, I really want to share of

489
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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown in this game because I think a lot

490
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Speaker 1: of people when they go Steelers will go for Levan Bell.

491
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Speaker 1: He's seventy started right now. Antonio Brown too, So that

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Speaker 1: actually almost makes me want to go with Odell against

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Speaker 1: the Packers because I think he blows up in this

494
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Speaker 1: game and if he beat dude, he didn't blow up

495
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Speaker 1: in the first game they played against each other. And

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Speaker 1: I have a horrible feeling he's just gonna rip right

497
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Speaker 1: through him now. Bro, he's just being right. Yeah, you

498
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Speaker 1: know the media is going to get to his head.

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Speaker 1: But I think so. On the Chiefs point though, I

500
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Speaker 1: think the best the best strategy there is going with

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Speaker 1: the their defense because you know you do have to

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Speaker 1: pick a defense in this and yeah, exactly, Yet you

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Speaker 1: get a share of Tyreek Hill there, yea. And also

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Speaker 1: like Chiefs at home at least for one game, that's

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Speaker 1: really tempting. Alright, what about it all? Packers? Also something

506
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Speaker 1: some Homerism, but the pack the Packers are hot right now,

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Speaker 1: so I went with the Packers passing attack. I've got Rogers,

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Speaker 1: Nelson and Adams Cobs still banged up. I grabbed Mason

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Speaker 1: Crosby for the kicker because the figure they could be

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Speaker 1: in a couple of good, good matchups here, especially they're

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Speaker 1: in Round two. If they advanced, going to travel in

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Speaker 1: a dome somewhere in two games, that could be very

513
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Speaker 1: high scoring with the pallis in Atlanta. And then on

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Speaker 1: the flip side, I went all Patriots. I stacked both

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Speaker 1: their running backs and went Garrett Blunt and Dion Lewis

516
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Speaker 1: because Dean Louis Dean Lewis over the last four weeks

517
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Speaker 1: of the season actually had more rushing yards than the

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Speaker 1: Garrett Plunt he didn't get. At the end, James White

519
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Speaker 1: was still the primary pass catcher, but I'm wondering if

520
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Speaker 1: after another week Lewis is a little more healthy with

521
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Speaker 1: the bye, that role comes back. And also, as Marcus said,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots are figuring to play Connor Cook Rock Oswinder

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Speaker 1: in Round two. That figures to be a run heavy game.

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Speaker 1: Script I gladly double up on all the potential running

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Speaker 1: back touchdowns there tight end I'm riding. In the past,

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Speaker 1: I've mixed and matched teams more This year, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to try just going with two teams, so I went

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Speaker 1: with Marty b figure he's going to be a big

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Speaker 1: beneficiary of the buy two because he was carrying a

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Speaker 1: couple of lower body injuries. Um still getting wrote used,

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Speaker 1: especially in the red zone with that huge frame. And

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Speaker 1: then I grabbed the Patriots defense because Packer's defense not

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Speaker 1: great right now. And again the Patriots get to play

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Speaker 1: Connor Cook or brock Osweiler in round two. Let's say

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Speaker 1: it one more time, Connor Cooked or our brock Oswiler

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Speaker 1: in round two. I mean, if it's not Steelers Pats

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Speaker 1: in the a f C Championship game, Dude, Chiefs Chief,

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Speaker 1: I would not sleep on the Chiefs. Chiefs at home

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Speaker 1: at home field advantage is one of the hardest stadiums

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Speaker 1: to go into emplay. It all makes me very nervous

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Speaker 1: Steelers fan. Chiefs can put points on you now too.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know that Kelsey has been bawling. They

543
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Speaker 1: have an X factor and Tyreek Hill and let's not

544
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Speaker 1: forget the two games where Alex Smith has ever come

545
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Speaker 1: out of his shell. Has been in the playoff playoffs.

546
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Speaker 1: Has been against the Saints when he was with the

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Speaker 1: nine is that year, and then against the Colts when

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Speaker 1: the Colts came back in such an awesome kid, an

549
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Speaker 1: amazing game. I really hope we get a good playoff

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Speaker 1: game like that. All right, I know we will because

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Speaker 1: I believe so. I think the divisional round is going

552
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Speaker 1: to be lit for both posts. I'm so excited. God,

553
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Speaker 1: we have to get through all this stupid fantasy crap

554
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Speaker 1: all year to get to the good playoff games, just

555
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Speaker 1: to put the capper on this the playoff challenge. So

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Speaker 1: you get the multipliers, uh so every single week. But

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Speaker 1: the multipliers do apply. So like for example, like let's

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Speaker 1: say the let's say you went with um, who am

559
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Speaker 1: I trying to think of? Look, let's say you went

560
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Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham. Okay, but he gets eliminated. Right, you

561
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Speaker 1: can go pick up Jordy and now you get don't

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Speaker 1: get the multie but you But do you get the

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Speaker 1: multiplier if Jordi then advances to the end of the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the two times two times each consecutive week, you get

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Speaker 1: the bonus multiplier. So there is that small distinction. That's

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Speaker 1: that's good enough. So another strategy none of us did

567
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Speaker 1: was if you think there are too hot enough wild

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Speaker 1: card teams to make it all the way to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, like perhaps Hackers and Steelers like, you could

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Speaker 1: stack your lineup with them and get four times multipliers

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Speaker 1: the whole way through. It's pretty good, right, I like it? Alright,

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Speaker 1: So there you go, Playoff challenge. Tell tell the folks

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Speaker 1: where to find NFL dot com slash Playoff Challenge. You

574
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Speaker 1: can go to my writer page NFL dot com slash

575
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Speaker 1: Fantasy to find the beginner's guide, and then I'll be

576
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Speaker 1: posting all of our line ups with a little right

577
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Speaker 1: up tomorrow. I like it though. You can check it

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Speaker 1: out there on Thursday and NFL dot com slash Fantasy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Alright, let's talk about some lessons that we

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Speaker 1: have learned in ten how do we apply them to

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Matt Harm will start with you. We're starting

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Speaker 1: with yes, absolutely, all right, what lessons did you learn?

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Speaker 1: I think that the biggest thing is that you know,

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Speaker 1: this scene might seem counterintuitive or not counter two, but

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Speaker 1: this points just seem like naturally something you would assume

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Speaker 1: is that. You know, this league changes. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of variants, you know, year to year, not even just

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Speaker 1: week to week. You know, I came into this year

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Speaker 1: pretty heavily invested in wide receiver heavy teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: even some zero RB teams, and that wasn't a great

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Speaker 1: approach this year, resolve suase because wide receiver scoring was

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Speaker 1: so much lower this year. I'm I'm writing a piece

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Speaker 1: on this for for Friday, so you can read it then.

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Speaker 1: But there was just so much of an outlier year

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Speaker 1: in terms of wide receiver production than had been the

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Speaker 1: last three to five years. So and I think that's

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Speaker 1: an important thing to one for me not to get

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Speaker 1: caught up in just this year's results, because it all

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Speaker 1: it's all about how are things trending in our is

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Speaker 1: the league is still the same way, And yes it

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Speaker 1: is still a passing league. The passing play percentage as

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Speaker 1: a as a whole in the NFL went up this year,

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Speaker 1: So it's not as if running backs are you know,

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Speaker 1: there's more rush attempts to go around or anything like.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's an important thing to keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: is just for me, that there's so much variants in

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Speaker 1: what in what can happen in one year, but not

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Speaker 1: to lose sight of the big picture of the way

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Speaker 1: the league is trending. And I still think that that

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Speaker 1: is trending to very much more of a pass heavy team,

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Speaker 1: and we could easily, just like we saw the running

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Speaker 1: back pendulum swing back this year, we could easily see

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Speaker 1: it go back to the mean next year, with more

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Speaker 1: high end running backs getting hurt and high end wide

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Speaker 1: receivers being more productive all. I guess the question is this,

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Speaker 1: if the league is moving towards more pass attempts per

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Speaker 1: game per team um and yet wide receiver scoring has

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Speaker 1: been down, where were those points accumulated at running back

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Speaker 1: passing game, running running game? Or I tried to kind

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Speaker 1: of and I'm not done yet trying to dig into that.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem that there's more like especially in terms

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Speaker 1: of top twelve fantasy backs, receptions and yards among the

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Speaker 1: running backs in the passing game are still pretty like linear.

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Speaker 1: There's not a huge change. I think what we're actually

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Speaker 1: seeing more and this this could be just this year,

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Speaker 1: it could be something that's developing going forward, is there's

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Speaker 1: more overall production. You know, I franchise, I know I

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Speaker 1: was showing you this graph where like the top fifty

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Speaker 1: scoring wide receivers, there was more guys that had seen

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Speaker 1: like ninety targets in a game as opposed to like

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Speaker 1: seventy targets. So it almost seems like it's just getting

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Speaker 1: spread around, spread out. Mike Evaning, you mentioned that, like,

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Speaker 1: I just to jump in super quick because literally before

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Speaker 1: the podcast we're on that, we're looking at one of

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Speaker 1: the bet wager things we're gonna set. It was with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and I was looking at their distribution, was like, wow,

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00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: sin they had three people with over ninety targets. They

638
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody like over a hundred. But then I

639
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: was just I was just pulling up the target totals

640
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: for this year and looking at it by team, and

641
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: there's there were a lot of teams that had a

642
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: much more spread out kind of approach, which is was

643
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: that kind of what you're hinting at their harmon? Yeah,

644
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: that's kind of That's essentially what I'm saying, Like, Mike

645
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: Evans led the NFL with a hundred and seventy three

646
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: targets and over, which is much lower than last year.

647
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: We had Julio Jones C two and from two thousand

648
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: twelve to two thousand fifteen, there were ten wide receivers

649
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: who saw more than a hundred and eighty targets over

650
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: that span. So it just kind of shows you were

651
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: like a strange year in terms of high end wide

652
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: receiver production. You know, Julio not Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald

653
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: led the NFL with a hundred and seven catches, which

654
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: was the lowest it's ever been in the last decade.

655
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: So it's and again you can say, maybe that's something

656
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: that's like a new trend developing, or it's just a

657
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still again, I'm still kind of working

658
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: through that, but I think that we really did see

659
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: the passing games spread out a lot more, and I

660
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: wonder if it is something that teams will do more

661
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: going forward, because uh, like just look that Falcons to

662
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: Bucks example is a really good one. Like the Bucks

663
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: were not a good team this year on on the whole,

664
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: and then the Falcons, especially last year when they stuffed

665
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: two hundred targets to Julio Jones, were We're a bad

666
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: football team. They weren't good. Their offense especially wasn't good.

667
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: And then this year where Julio Jones was averaging nine

668
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: targets game as opposed to twelve targets per game. They

669
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: were a much better offense because they were able to

670
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: develop multiple threats. And I wonder if that's something like

671
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, as fantasy owners, you know, we certainly love

672
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: when our players are getting a ton of targets. But

673
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: I also wonder if other teams will, you know, going forward,

674
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: whether that's gonna be something that they wanted to, you know,

675
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: whether whether they want to do that or there they

676
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: think they're better. And the Patriot's been doing that for

677
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: a decade now, so I guess it makes a whole

678
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: like a couple of stanse mg kind of take picky

679
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: backing off of that idea. What are your thoughts there?

680
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: Do you think that the pastor distribution just again remains

681
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: relatively uh even among a bunch of different options, making

682
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: it hard to find that quote unquote elite receiver. Well,

683
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think when you see teams

684
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: that are that are funneling a lot of targets to

685
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: one guy, I think it's it's not by choice, it

686
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: is it is sort of because out of necessity. I mean,

687
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: I think I think if you had gone and asked

688
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: the Colts this year, do you want t Y Hilton

689
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: to have tent of your targets? I think they would say, well, no,

690
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think they would have preferred, you know,

691
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: that Dante Moncreek was there more often to get the

692
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: ball to him. I think they would preferred that Philip

693
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: Dorset was more of a playmaker so he could see

694
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: more more passing, uh more more targets in the passing him.

695
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think in a perfect world,

696
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: everybody would want to be the Patriots or the Saints

697
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: or a team like that that has a whole bunch

698
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: of even even the Falcons this year that you know,

699
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't very it wasn't Julio Jones centric, which I

700
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: know frustrated a lot of people. Can I can I

701
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: jump in though? Look, look I think about this now,

702
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: because you say that the the the successful team spread

703
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: it around. Yet we have this whole mantra here in

704
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: the stronghold, right throw it to your good players? Right?

705
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: So so sometimes isn't the best offense throwing it to

706
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: your good players? I mean that I was saying for

707
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: weeks that no matter how many times they throw it

708
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: to Odell Becka, that's never enough. Um, But I think

709
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: some of it is because, I mean I think some

710
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: of these teams, they have good players that are just

711
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: other world. Odell Beckham is so head and shoulders above

712
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: so many other players in this league that yeah, I mean,

713
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that you can say that,

714
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: say in New Orleans, where you know you've got Brandon

715
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: Cooks and Michael Thomas and Willie Sneed who are all

716
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: fairly good playmakers, but not one of those guys is

717
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: what you consider elite compared to everybody else. I think

718
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: there's a difference between ignoring your your good player when

719
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: you have one good player, like you see with the

720
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys prior to this year, like especially, they'd go long

721
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: stretches without throwing it to Dez Bran, like, oh, let's

722
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: make sure we get Cole Beasley and Terence Williams and

723
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: hand it off to Darren McFadden. Like there's a difference

724
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: between doing that and like, if you're the Falcons this

725
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: year and you have all these other options, but when

726
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: they needed Julio Jones, they had Julio Jones to go through,

727
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: go to, and they did not ignore it. I mean,

728
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: think back to that game against Carolina where you just

729
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: ripped them to shreds. So I think there's a difference

730
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: between you know, ignoring your good player ramming it to

731
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: your good player no matter what. All right was, kids,

732
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: you learn anything from sixteen that you could apply twenty seventeen.

733
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: I think the lesson that I'm trying to I've learned

734
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: and I want to dig more into this offseason is

735
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: trying to find a blend of both as we're evaluating

736
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: players and situations, talent and opportunity. Because there are two

737
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: sides to this all the time in like fantasy discussions

738
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: of like tape study versus metrics or you know, analytics

739
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: and numbers and stuff like that, And I think we

740
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: have to be able to find a a blend because

741
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: when I first started doing this, like more seriously professionally

742
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, I was relying more on

743
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: my eye and I hit on a couple of those

744
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: guys early, like Nuke in his second year breakout and

745
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: mark Ingram and his resurgence and stuff like that. But

746
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: there are also certain situations where we have to be

747
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: be figure out a blend of both their talent and

748
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: the opportunity that could be presented. One of the ones

749
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I missed on this year at least early, was Michael

750
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: Thomas because I was worried with him coming to that

751
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: loaded Saints attack that he was he was. You know,

752
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: I loved his talent coming out of Ohio State, but

753
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: I was worried he wasn't gonna see enough volume two

754
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: week to week. Trust is in the last ten years

755
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: Breeze and only throwing a twenty plus targets to a

756
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: receiver five times. Like you think of all the targets

757
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: he throws all the five thousand years yard seasons. Harmon

758
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: did that good study on a hundred twenty target wide

759
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: receivers and it only happened five times in ten years. So,

760
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 1: like I was a little, I over kind of overassessed

761
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: his talent and his usage, which would probably be primarily

762
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: in the red zone, which I think he far and

763
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: away led that team. Let me pull that up super quick.

764
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: But you know, figuring out a marriage of the two,

765
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: and like, you know, because there are certain situations to

766
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: where if the opportunities aren't presented, We've seen talented players

767
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: sink before like Nuke this year, although none of us

768
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: expected him to sink to this level, So I don't

769
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: think anybody thought Brock was gonna be Michael Thomas did

770
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: lead the Saints with nineteen red zone targets and had

771
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns in that space. So figuring out the marriage

772
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: of both talent and opportunity and how to how to

773
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: better equate that moving forward as projecting to has been

774
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: my lesson that I learned. I guess my lesson. We

775
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: were talking about this before we started recording, but there's

776
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: already on the Twitter sphere conversations about draft strategy for

777
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: next year already, and by the zero RB verse, the

778
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: zero wide receiver and the only draft good players and

779
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: all this. There's so many different variables that go into

780
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: every single fantasy draft. I'm just not getting involved in

781
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: any of this crap anymore. I understand how zero RB

782
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: can work. I understand how zero wide receiver can work.

783
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: I also understand that every league is different. You have

784
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: a different draft spot in every league. There's no one

785
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: way that this this strategy can win or lose your

786
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: your league. And there's no reason that you have to

787
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: knock down a strategy for no reason other than you

788
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: don't believe in it. So I think that ladder parts

789
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: probably the most important. Yeah, but so so the beginning

790
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: part is ladder part is that it is a good point, Like, like,

791
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm my league of record, you can start five wide

792
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: receiver every week. It's a half point PPR. There's a

793
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: bunch of flex spots. So the last two seasons, I

794
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: think I've drafted five wide receivers with my first five picks.

795
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: I went ten in three last year. I made it

796
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: to the championship this year and I lost. But it

797
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: depends on the setup of your league where your draft

798
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: spot is. Knowing. Yeah, Like it's like all these arguments

799
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: are just so pointless, and why are we having It's January?

800
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: Can we not talk about this for like a month.

801
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: A couple of people made the point that they were

802
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: like the fantasy season. Body isn't even cold yet. I

803
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: think like al SMIs yeah said that. I'm like, yeah,

804
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm kind of right here, and I get it. I

805
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: get it because this is what we do. But and

806
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: but what when you say this is what we do,

807
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: it's for a lot of folks, it's important for them

808
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: to be right right because that's how they build their brand.

809
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: Is well, I'm a quote unquote fantasy expert, so I

810
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: need to be right, and if I'm not right, then

811
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: I feel as if I am not a fantasy football

812
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: expert or something along those. It's so if you're wrong,

813
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: that's right. No one's going to remember it. Yeah, it's

814
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: okay if you're wrong. So the Internet will always say

815
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: but and I think I think a good point about

816
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: franchise discussion here is like it's hard. It's hard to

817
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: look back, you know, with only like a result space

818
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: the internet. Actually, you guys are all wrong. But I

819
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: think the fun thing is like looking back in hindsight

820
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: is easy. But you know, everything, like I mentioned earlier,

821
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: everything this year led like led you to think like, yeah,

822
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: this is gonna be. That's the zero RBS the way

823
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: to go, the wide receiver heavies the way to go.

824
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: And then here we are a few months later, and

825
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: that was incorrect. But the process of how you got

826
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: there is is very accurate. And I think that just

827
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: goes to show you that there's so much randomness, so

828
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: much volatility in this league, that it's important to be humble.

829
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: It's important to realize, like, yeah, I was wrong about

830
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: that prediction. This Actually it's funny because I actually went

831
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: zero RB in two of my main leagues, and uh

832
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: in both leagues, I got to the championship game using

833
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: the zero RB strategy. I think my starting running back

834
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: in one league was Lottavius Murray. It was I was

835
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: running out Latavius Murray and Jerick McKinnon in that league.

836
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: And I think that's another good point to that, like

837
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: strategies are just for one, they're options, Like they're not

838
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: cheat codes. Like even even if you were zero R

839
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: b z L going in this year, you'd have to

840
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: admit that it's just an option, like and you could

841
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: get like you could get to a point whe it's

842
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: like there's a running baker I'd like taking, Like I'd

843
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: be like, what am I gonna just gonna pass it

844
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: up just because I want to follow the strategy. No,

845
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: that's crazy, Like it's an option, and to like they're

846
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, they're like I said, they're not cheat because

847
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: there there's just one part of the fantasy experience, like

848
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: you can draft a great zero RB team, but if

849
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: you don't manage it properly and don't hunt for those

850
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: backup running backs like Jordan Howard or you know what,

851
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: and it doesn't then it doesn't matter. It's all part

852
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: of the experience, and the other thing is feeling out

853
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: how your draft goes. If everyone's taking running backs early,

854
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: you have an advantage and getting a couple of top

855
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: wide receivers while everyone's loading up on running backs. And

856
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: if it's flat the other way around, feel it out

857
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: and zig when everyone else zags, or whatever the case

858
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: may be. Just understand positional value and like, don't take

859
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: everything we or other analysts say as gospel too, because

860
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: like Franchi is a good point too, is that most

861
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: leagues are different. Yeah, yeah, this is it's like, take

862
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: what we say and see how it might apply to you.

863
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: And like we I don't think anybody in this room

864
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: or behind the glass with gelhard would uh prevent present

865
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: ourselves as anybody, but just like people with opinions, people

866
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: with some thoughts, and yeah, we've we've looked at numbers

867
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: more than you guys, and we recommend you don't look

868
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: at numbers as much as we do. Made a normal balance,

869
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think of like, just take some of it,

870
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: see how it applies to you, and you know, again,

871
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: things could likely change quickly. This one's fantasy therapy session.

872
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: It worked out well. This is good good, good audible

873
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: on the rundown there. I like it. MG, you got

874
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: a lesson here, I mean, I do. I mean, I

875
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: think I think one of the things I took away

876
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: from this year, I think we saw it near the

877
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: end of the year, especially, uh, was the the value

878
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: of sort of hybrid players. And I know, I remember

879
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago in the preseason I had

880
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: kind of jokingly said that, you know, uh, hybrid or

881
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: multiple was kind of the buzzword, and you know, and

882
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: I didn't quite I didn't quite follow up on that

883
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: much this year. But I think whether it was the

884
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: elite guys, you know, the David Johnson's and the Levian Bells,

885
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: seeing how often they lined up out of the backfield

886
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: at wide receiver positions and we're extremely effective there too.

887
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: Even some of the guys that we saw really emerged

888
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: later in the year, whether it was Taylor Gabriel or

889
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. Um, you know, these guys who can do

890
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: multiple things and be effective at him. I mean as

891
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: much as I you know, those are those coaches to

892
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: figuring out ways to get them the ball in space? Yeah, no, absolutely,

893
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, but we saw it a little bit with

894
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: you know, in some ways. With Ty Montgomery obviously making

895
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: the switch to running back. We saw it. I think

896
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: with the wide the tight end spot. I know, tight

897
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: end was kind of a waste land this year, but

898
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: some of the more effective guys, I mean, you know,

899
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: obviously you've got Gronk who can do everything, you Walker

900
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: who lined up at a slot position more than he

901
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: lined up a tight end, Travis and Kelsey who moved

902
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: all over the formation. This is the way of the

903
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: world now in the NFL, when you have guys who

904
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: are just uber athletic, who can get out there and

905
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: do multiple things on the football field. So yeah, you know,

906
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: and I think, I think, I think we're gonna see this,

907
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: especially when we get to July and August. It's already

908
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: starting now with this conversation who should be the number

909
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: one overall pick? And the first three names that popped

910
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: up obviously David Johnson, Levian Bell, Ezekiel Elliott, and I

911
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: would say, right now, of those three, Zeke is my

912
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: number three simply because he doesn't do he doesn't do

913
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: the same work in the Cowboys passing game that those

914
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: other two guys do in their teams respective passing games.

915
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw during the season this year, a

916
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: lot of times in passing situations, especially late game situations

917
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys needed to move the ball quickly, you

918
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: saw a lot more Lance Dunbar on the field than

919
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: you did Ezekiel Elliott. You didn't. You certainly didn't see him,

920
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, lining up as a slot receiver and trying

921
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: to you know, and forcing coverages to roll his way.

922
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: So I think because of that, I think you still

923
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: can feel confident in David Johnson regardless of what may

924
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: happen in the Cardinals offense this year. You can certainly

925
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: feel confident about leve Bell, but David Johnson was so

926
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: old for a rookie, though old for second year running.

927
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: There you go. Um. But I do think I think

928
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: it's it's key to to kind of identify some of

929
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: those players who can be that Swiss army knife. I mean, obviously,

930
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: if you can get an elite level guy, that's amazing.

931
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: But I think even in terms of finding role players,

932
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: finding those flex guys or those r B twos or

933
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver two's who can do multiple things, because that

934
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: keeps them on the field more, that gets the ball

935
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: in their direction a lot more, and I think get

936
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: in the long run will help you out. That's good stuff,

937
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: all right. Uh, let's talk about some change that you

938
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: would make in standard scoring leads. I don't know. I

939
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone else has anything else, but I

940
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: get fired up about it because for me, yeah, I

941
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: just look for me, I get fired up because in

942
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: typical standard scoring leagues where passing touchdowns are are four points,

943
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: I just it's so it devalues quarterback so much and

944
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: it does not reflect what we're actually seeing on the field.

945
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: And I think, to me, I think that's a big

946
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: disservice because we are in a league where the top

947
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: flight quarterbacks are the ones that lead their teams to

948
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: victories and deep into the playoffs. But yet in fantasy

949
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: their interchangeable parts. That just, to me, that doesn't feel right.

950
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: And I'm currently playing. I currently only play or play

951
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: seriously in leagues where passing touchdowns are six uh. And

952
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: I was a big reason for that, because I'm always

953
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,959
Speaker 1: I just I get I get crazy about it because

954
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, this doesn't make sense to me, it doesn't

955
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: make sense whatsoever. And I the other thing, I'd love

956
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: to see two and I don't play any leagues that

957
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: that do this. Um, but I think interceptions in turnovers,

958
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: fumbles lost and think they should be negative three that

959
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: and the reason I'm saying that is because we can't

960
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: have guys like Blake Bortles be a top ten quarterback.

961
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: We can't. You can't leave the league and interceptions and

962
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: still be a good fantasy player. To me, that just

963
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel right. I say I will, which, by

964
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: the way, went to back champ. You know that will

965
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: be announced shortly before the end of the way. Um,

966
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: I will say. The corollary to that, though, is I

967
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: actually would like to see pick six is maybe cost

968
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: you more. Maybe they cost you a pick fire, Maybe

969
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: it cost you six points because really does have to

970
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: doesn't work out tackling or at least you know, learned

971
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: to not throw it to the wrong colored jersey. Let's

972
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: not ask too much. You guys know who led the

973
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: league in interceptions this year? Wasn't but it wasn't a

974
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: black board. It was not let me, It's Philip Rivers.

975
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: It's Philip. He was the only one with more than

976
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: Blake had sixteen. Oh boy, he liter legally last year. James,

977
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: if I was actually going to if I'm gonna kind

978
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: of pick provide a ancillary think to your thing here,

979
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: like I don't know if so much. The answer is

980
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: increasing the points for amount of touchdowns you throw. I

981
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: think that helps, but it doesn't necessarily increase the value

982
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: of the position overall because everybody gets that boost. I

983
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: think the best way to make more quarterbacks relevant, make

984
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: them more important is actually add a flex spot for quarterbacks.

985
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: Super flex super flex why why uh? I like it.

986
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: That's what adds the value to your quarterbacks because then

987
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: when you have one of the elite ones, it's more

988
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: of an advantage with a guy that's starting Alex Smith

989
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: and Brock. I was like, let me, let me just do.

990
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about your fantasy teams. But I have a

991
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: super flex dynasty where's the mu Yeah, I know, where's

992
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: the mug with? I have a super flex dynasty league

993
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: and my two quarterbacks in there are Tyrod Taylor and

994
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, And like I can, well, my team sucks

995
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: because it sucks all around, but it's a pain having

996
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: to have those as my two quarterbacks every week and

997
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: then like hoping I catch fire with a backup like

998
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley, which I did this year too, as opposed

999
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: to the guy that has you know, Aaron Rodgers and

1000
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees or something like. That's a pretty big

1001
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: position because you that flex spot, it's got to be

1002
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. So the reason the reason I don't advocate

1003
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: that is because it's not fun playing bad players. It's

1004
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: just not Yeah, but isn't there some fun in trying

1005
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: to do the research on the deeper guy who's going

1006
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: to perform well that week or whatever? And if you're

1007
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: talking to one of the deans of danger zones, so yes,

1008
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: I I love doing the deep research. That's it is

1009
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: it is and watching random you know, Abilene Christian game tape. Okay, fine,

1010
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: I do that. Yes, I get it, but I and

1011
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: I get I get off on it, which is great.

1012
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: But it's just I don't know, man, consider every single

1013
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: week trying to play a bad player. It's just not fun.

1014
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't enjoy that. I enjoy watching,

1015
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: you know, guys like Aaron Rodgers slinging around and making

1016
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: a huge impact. And I just feel like if you

1017
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: if you added negative three to the interceptions, it really

1018
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: separates the cream from the bottom feeders. You know what

1019
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I can see that, so I guess I

1020
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: actually didn't think I had one, But I'm gonna throw

1021
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: one in place. Get kickers out, Get kickers out. No,

1022
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: you don't like it? Too random? I hate kickers. You

1023
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: know what. I will tell you this. I lost my

1024
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I lost both my championships. Actually, well, I don't know

1025
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: if I could blame it on a kicker, but I

1026
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: did lose. I legitimately lost one championship because, uh, somebody

1027
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: ran out a kicker who got twenty points. Matt Bryant.

1028
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: That's the same. On the other side of the Brian

1029
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: helped me win. I hate it. And that's too random.

1030
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: I think that's too It is so at least with

1031
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: the defense, you can predict Yeah, that's a little. The

1032
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: kicker is completely unpredictable. If I'm gonna statistically, it is

1033
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: the second most predictable position. How is that quarterbacks? Because

1034
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: the main kickers mostly just mostly over the course, were

1035
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: the main kickers, you know, like your boy Guskowski. I

1036
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: mean one, no, no, no, I mean in the course

1037
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: of one season, from a week to week perspective, not

1038
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: a year to year to year. Get out of here.

1039
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: But you just gotta you gotta figure out, you know,

1040
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks in. That's all I'm saying. From

1041
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: week to week perspective, it's pretty predictable, the same guys.

1042
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: But you're right, those guys will randomly pop up for

1043
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: a big week, and when they get twenty points, it's

1044
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: very freshening. I'm not trying to advocate for kickers. I'm

1045
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: just I mean, I get that random players will pop

1046
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: up and and do crazy things, but um on a

1047
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: week to week basis, but more upsetting than looking at

1048
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: a great fantasy line up being like, man, I'm an

1049
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: out winning and then seeing that your kicker has his

1050
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: offense had a great performance, but great performance, he kicked

1051
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: four extra points. The other side is Justin Tucker who

1052
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: kicked three fifty yard field goals in one game, And

1053
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: you're staring at like a twenty spot and like but

1054
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: and that and that double digit deficit is so hard

1055
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: to overcome and fantasy at a kicker position, like a kicker, Yeah,

1056
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: that's so, that's what. There's just so much volatility, and

1057
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: it's like like a few that it's so random because

1058
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: like so few people except for like diehards, will actually

1059
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: like stream kickers or something like most people just get

1060
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: a kicker and set it and forget it. That's the

1061
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: guy gets injured. So it's that up and down peak

1062
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: and valley there that's obnoxious. Whereas defenses, it's a little

1063
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: more fun because you can stream or you can get

1064
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: your leak ones the rest of positions. I love kickers

1065
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: an important part of the NFL game, but get him

1066
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: out of fantasy maybe is it maybe jumping on top

1067
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: of that, can we maybe we dampen their impact so

1068
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: you don't get bonuses for extra yardage, so it's everything

1069
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: is just three or one. Yeah, I would be okay

1070
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: with that then too, because then that that I guess

1071
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: that adds some of the predictability to it, even a

1072
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: little more than what Harmon was saying in there, because

1073
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: you know there's nineteen points or twenty points or whatever

1074
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: for Met Bryant. That's I mean, justin Tucker turt I

1075
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: had an NFL record to think or set it with

1076
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: ten fifty plus yard field goals. Uh. I get the

1077
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: counter argument to that too, which is, hey, listen, a

1078
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven yard field goal is not the same as

1079
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: a fifty five yard field goal, which I understand still

1080
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: counts for the same amount of points, though those count

1081
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: for the same amount of lights. Yeah, an ad R

1082
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns different than an a d R like an a

1083
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: d R touchdown drive capped off by one year rushing touchdown.

1084
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, alright, so there you go. Um, alright, so

1085
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's wrap up basically the real quick

1086
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: all right? So what is on pace on Pace four?

1087
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: And if you guys are new to the to the podcast, UM,

1088
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: I I called mark Ingram on pace because you cannot

1089
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: talk about mark Ingram without talking about what he is

1090
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: quote on Pace four. Um, he coming into this season,

1091
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: he had previously never had a thousand yard rushing season.

1092
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, good narratives do die, just so so sad

1093
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm say I'm sad about this, not because I was

1094
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: wrong or not because you know, I'm not happy for

1095
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: mark Ingram. I'm I'm happy for mark Ingram, which is cool,

1096
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: not a completely terrible person. I am a terrible but

1097
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: I mean, but this narrative now has to die. It's

1098
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: no fun put it to bed, you know, because mark

1099
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: Gingram finished with one thousand and forty three rush yards

1100
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: as somebody uh put this in bold underline and the

1101
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: giant funt in the rundown. It was anonymous man. It

1102
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: was anonymous man. One thousand, forty three rush yards. In

1103
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: many respects, it was the best year of his career.

1104
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: He had a career high in terms of total touchdowns,

1105
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: he had ten uh career high in yards per carry

1106
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: over five um. He had a he had a great

1107
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: season by the way he did. I'd like to take

1108
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: this time to pat myself on the back too, because

1109
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: I also said that he would have ten touchdowns this year.

1110
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: Did you ten touchdown? Yeah? I said, that's now. I

1111
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: might I might have meant rushing. But whatever you have

1112
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 1: to in touch that, it's not important. It was not important.

1113
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: I like he said, after he got the thousand yards,

1114
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna buy frame all of his offensive lineman's jerseys

1115
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: and put them up in his house. Yeah. Great, Well,

1116
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: it's a career year for Ingram because he played sixteen games,

1117
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's right, And I think

1118
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 1: it's different. I think a big I think a big

1119
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: part of him staying mostly healthy for the whole years,

1120
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: the fact that they had kind of a three headed

1121
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: committee going Yeah, isn't that what's funny Because when he

1122
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: first got benched everyone was freaking out. But then ultimately

1123
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: that may have helped him. For sure. He was more

1124
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: efficient this year than he was last year on the ground,

1125
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: like the average sixty four yards per game last year

1126
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: and sixty five this year. And he hit with the

1127
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: average four point six yards per carry last year five

1128
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: point one this year. It's pretty good. All right. Let's

1129
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: talk about Marshal eleven hundred. I pegged Marvin Jones to

1130
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: get to eleven hundred yards and after the first month

1131
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: of the season on pace, well, the first month of

1132
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: the season, like that was a lock on pace. He

1133
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: was like on pace for yards. So I don't know

1134
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: what happened here, But Marvin Jones fifty five receptions, a

1135
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: hundred and three targets, so decent target totals, but just

1136
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: nine hundred and thirty yards, So he fell well short

1137
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: of eleven hundred. His career high previously was eight sixteen

1138
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: with the Bengals. But he did miss two games this year.

1139
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would have made a difference.

1140
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't think it had an injury

1141
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: or something and just a little bit. He just played

1142
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: through an injury that limited you know, that's got to

1143
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: be that's kind of what his m O has been. Uh,

1144
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: not not only with the Bengals, but even with cal

1145
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: he was you know, kind of more of an injury

1146
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: prone type player, but u yard And it was crazy too,

1147
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: right because he had that two hundred yard game and

1148
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: you're thinking, yep, he's going to get to by week ten. Yeah,

1149
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: and then Golden Tate took over and then what happened.

1150
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: I don't get what happened. I think if I could

1151
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: offer a theory about it, I think that's a therapy.

1152
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't know about a therapy. But first, after the

1153
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: lines had shed Calvin Johnson, he kind of stepped into

1154
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: that role as the number one outside receiver. And to

1155
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: to a lot of people pointed this out, he'd never

1156
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: been that guy. You know, he was second fiddle to

1157
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, then he was second fiddle to A. J.

1158
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: Green's good point. And then this year he became that

1159
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: guy for the first three games. But they were still

1160
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: targeting him on a lot of low percentage down the

1161
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: field routes and when he was not seeing as as

1162
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: strong a coverage because you know, I was like, well,

1163
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: other teams, what's the we're not going to game plan

1164
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: to sup Marvin Jones. Uh. Then he was making a

1165
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: lot of those plays, but then as more coverage rolled

1166
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: his way, it freed up things for others, and then

1167
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: those low percentage routes became even harder, which just extrapolated

1168
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: the issue. And I think that, you know, it's just

1169
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: at that point you would still see him get targets,

1170
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: but it would always be again, really tough catches, and

1171
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: they just definitely didn't bounce his way. Yeah, I just

1172
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: feel like he couldn't get separation. Every time it looked

1173
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: like he was going for deep all the guy was

1174
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: like on top of him. I tweeted during that game

1175
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys that at the time, from weeks four

1176
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: to weeks fifteen, he ranked ninety seven out of ninety

1177
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: seven receivers on separation target dead last. Oh yeah, but

1178
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: so James, Yes, no, March next year, call it right now.

1179
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do March to eleven hundred. Obviously, the last

1180
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: two years have not gone great because last year was

1181
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Dante death. I know Dante Moncrief just I mean, although

1182
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: he got hurt again this year, so whatever, But yeah,

1183
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: Dante Moncrief was my guy last year. But two years

1184
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: agoes New Copkins, but Marvin Jones this year, and I

1185
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: thought it was looking good. I don't know, man, I

1186
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: don't know what we'll we'll we'll re examine the hard

1187
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: part about Marshall. Even eleven hundred yards is a good figure.

1188
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: But I have to go then go and pick a

1189
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: guy who is super random. Only twelve wide receivers got there.

1190
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, only thirteen players total total,

1191
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: and one of them was Travis Kelsey. Oh, there were

1192
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: twenty five receivers that had a thousand. But might it

1193
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: might have to I might have to figure out a

1194
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: way to mix in running backs, total yards, scrimmage scrimmage

1195
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: that I might have to. I don't know. Well, we'll

1196
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: tweak at this offseason. We'll see what's up. Maybe maybe

1197
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: I'll find somebody that I really like when I started

1198
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: thinking about this in the off season. But all right,

1199
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: we'll keep we hyped up and ready for place. Oh

1200
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: you know I would, of course. Let's talk about this quickly.

1201
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: Bear the hatchet here on a fell v boyd okay,

1202
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: please do? Okay, So this was the thing when A

1203
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: J Green went down, Um, Matt Harmon, who's an idiot? Okay,

1204
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon, who's an idiot. Matt Harmon approached me and said,

1205
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: you know what, Um, I just approached you threw it

1206
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: out to the entire podcast. That's true, and I bit

1207
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: like an idiot, which basically because people behind the curtain

1208
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: back and like curtain here. Uh. Harmon discussed this and

1209
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: he's like, I bet you get cod to buy it

1210
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: on because nobody talking about it. No, no, And I

1211
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: was like, man, none of you guys want to know this.

1212
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: I figure i'd get one of you. And I'm like,

1213
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get go on. Yeah, I'm too that's too easy.

1214
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: That's too younger, guy. Please, that's all I needed to know.

1215
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: One of these players was younger than the other. It's

1216
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: a good point. Um. A J. Green goes down with injury,

1217
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: who would fill the void? Would it be from a

1218
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: fantasy perspective, would it be Brandon LaFell or would be

1219
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd? Um? Matt Harmon picked Brandon LaFell with confidence,

1220
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: with confidence, and he threw it out on the podcast,

1221
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: and I took the bait and I said, oh, I'll

1222
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: take Tyler Boyd, no doubt, no doubt about it. Brend

1223
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: La Fell crushed he had fifty six point three points.

1224
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: Was the wide receiver nineteen in those last six weeks

1225
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: of the season or last whatever was it six games?

1226
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: I think? Anyways, from week twelve on he was he

1227
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: was fifty six point three points. Why receiver nineteen had

1228
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: more catches, more yards, more touchdowns Boyd? Boyd had thirty

1229
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: point nine points and was wide receiver four six games.

1230
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: And again I think, you know, Gillhard just kept spinning

1231
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: in my face about this in the newsroom. Was not

1232
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: spinning in your face. All I said was I wanted

1233
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: to have more fun with it. I went with Boyd,

1234
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: and I admitted that yours was the more protictable of

1235
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: the two. Not not not my point. My point was

1236
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: that not my narrative. I think that this is a

1237
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: really important point for for listeners is that, you know,

1238
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of and I'm not saying

1239
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: this is what you were saying, go are, but a

1240
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: lot of people of think like, oh, well, it's a

1241
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: younger guy. You know, he's gonna have more upside. And

1242
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: the only thing that dictates upside in fantasy is usage.

1243
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: And during that span fifty two targets for Lafel, thirty

1244
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: one targets for Boyd. Lafell's targeted much more farther downfield.

1245
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: Boyd was just a low volume slot receiver. So I

1246
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: think in the future, you know, if you're making these decisions,

1247
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: you want to take the player that's going to see

1248
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: more high value targets, not the guy that's just younger

1249
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: and unknown that does not dictate upside. Okay, look, if

1250
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: I could, if I could defend myself permission Grant, I

1251
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: actually thought that Tyler Boyd would fill that outside receiver role.

1252
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: That's what I thought the role that he was going

1253
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: to fill. I didn't think that he was going to

1254
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: be a slot possession guy. Um. I just thought Brandon

1255
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: la felt we had seen enough tape on him. Athleticism

1256
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: was average at best. UM not saying that Tyler Boyd

1257
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: was some crazy amazing athlete, which he's not. But I

1258
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: just thought that he was going to be a little

1259
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: quicker off the line, and I thought he would be

1260
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: the guy that that they were SENTI grooming to kind

1261
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: of play outside for the Bengals offense. So, uh, that's

1262
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: what I thought going in when I when I took

1263
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: that proposition. Obviously I was incorrect in that assessment. And

1264
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: I think that's another thing too, like what even you

1265
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: know me? I was right in this instance, wrong on

1266
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Speaker 1: plenty of others. And it's important to emphasize what the

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01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: team tells you, what the what the games have told you.

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01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: And all year Boyd had played at the slot. They said,

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01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: even in training camp, he's our slot receiver, no matter what.

1270
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: And I think, so that's more important than you know

1271
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: what you think. And again I'm not calling you out

1272
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: on that. I've done the same thing, oh you any

1273
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: times like that's fine, all the clues say that, but

1274
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: I believe this and a lot of times it's important

1275
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: to follow with And they said he's our slot wide receiver,

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01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: no matter what. They did not expect A. J. Green

1277
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: to go down. That was one thing where we did

1278
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: not know. The tea leaves, as we said, were more

1279
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: predictive in the fashion that would be Lafel, But we

1280
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: didn't know. It's a massive loss, we said on this podcast.

1281
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: Plus you'd never replace a player of a J. Green's

1282
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: caliber one to one. But and plus I couldn't get

1283
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: the image of the Brandon fell on the trash can. Yeah,

1284
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: out of trash can Jersey. I couldn't do it. Understandable.

1285
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: It's a hard image to get out of there. Yeah,

1286
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: that is very true. But again that's like Galhart said

1287
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: at the top of the podcast, like, you know, the

1288
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: intersection of talent and opportunity. Sometimes opportunity Trump's talent. Like

1289
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not keeping up for Brandon Fell because I think

1290
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: he's good. He just was gonna step into more high

1291
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: value role. Yeah, it was something you end with Bengals players,

1292
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: Brandon the Fell, Jeremy Hill, I mean, just just riding

1293
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: for these dudes with opportunity. Yeah, well they've presented that

1294
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: this j Green, I mean, that's that's you know, Jeremy

1295
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: Hill is one of those to just dive back requick

1296
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: in my like talent versus opportunity thing because like Jeremy

1297
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: Hill was playing very, very poorly, but he was getting

1298
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: the volume and at least he was getting it near

1299
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: the goal line, so that that didn't I'm sure and

1300
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: in other games, you know, he had his nineteen carries

1301
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: for nineteen yards, and I'm sure after weeks seventeen, Marvin

1302
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: Lewis is like, why didn't we just play Rex Goathhead

1303
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: this whole time? Hey, he did have a good game

1304
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: Week seventeen You're right, Run he's a free agent this

1305
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: year too. He's gonna be uh Burkehead is or Jeremy

1306
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: workout Burkett. Why are we talking about Berkey? Dude? Burkhead's

1307
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: guys get excited He's I do. I don't atually think

1308
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's not getting this whole debate,

1309
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: but I think he's an interesting player. He can make

1310
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: it for decent signing somewhere. We'll see. I'm glad you've

1311
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: opened your eyes to the greatness of Rex. The question

1312
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: was again, this is the same thing. It's not questioning

1313
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: Rex Burkhead, it's just questioning opportunity. You hated him, all right,

1314
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: Let's move on franchise. Chris Ivory. What Chris Ivory? What?

1315
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: What was your What was your prediction on Chris? I

1316
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: said he would get six rushing touchdowns this year with

1317
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, because coming into this season, it was Chris

1318
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: Ivery is going to be the red zone guy and

1319
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: t J. Yelden is gonna be a fifty fifty split

1320
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: and t J. Yelden isn't that good and everyone knew that.

1321
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: I think and Ivory had a huge year last year

1322
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: with the Jets. Trip I think how it all happened

1323
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: was like, you kept writing up Chris Ivory and I

1324
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: was like, bro, why do you keep talking? I did?

1325
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,479
Speaker 1: He was like kind of my must him. You kept

1326
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: writing up and I was like, bro, why do you

1327
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: keep talking with Chris? I like, well, he's gonna be

1328
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: a good goaling back and I was like he's actually

1329
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: not a good red zone back and You're like, what

1330
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And I was like, I bet

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01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: she doesn't score six touchdowns this year. Yeah, So we

1332
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: wrote that on a sticky note. It stayed on my

1333
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: cube all season and every time few and far between

1334
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: times that Chris Ivory actually scored, he only had three touchdow,

1335
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he got one, to be fair.

1336
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: One of the reasons that I thought this would not

1337
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: happen would be that the Jags. Jags had to be

1338
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: a great passing because that's where all the great personnel was,

1339
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: and that even though they wanted to be a run team,

1340
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: and that really wasn't true yet, the Jags were just

1341
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: so no one thought they were going to be as

1342
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: bad as they ran way fewer plays in the red

1343
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: zone too. I was just looking at it. This year,

1344
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: they had like a hundred and forty some plays in

1345
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: the red zone this year. They had like our last

1346
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: year two years ago, and they had like ninety this year.

1347
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: So Chris Ivrey played in eleven games. He was hurt

1348
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: and I think in another one as well. So yes, um,

1349
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: it's all part of the experience. Is all part of

1350
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: the Chris Ivory experience. He only had thirteen fewer Russia attempts.

1351
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: T J Yeldan the whole season. Well, t J Yelden

1352
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: is not good, which is that I don't understand one

1353
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: seven he had a hundred and seventeen carries four or

1354
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty nine yards. That is bad. Yeah,

1355
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: so if they hadn't if the entire offense hadn't face

1356
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: Planet Franchise, you would have had a better shot at it.

1357
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: And they only they only ran the ball thirty one

1358
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: times in the red zone this year, but they ran

1359
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: it fifty two times two years ago. But here's the

1360
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: The other thing though, is that his career high is

1361
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: only seven touchdowns, So six touchdowns actually was a relatively

1362
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: aggressive total. But whatever, you're aggressive. This is like I

1363
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: understood his logics. It was coming off a year where

1364
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: the Jags too, they ran fifty two times they sucked

1365
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: running in the red zone, thought Dinard Robinson, a thirteen

1366
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: red zone Russia attempt. For whatever reason, t J Yielded

1367
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: just can't get it done at the goal line. He's

1368
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: not he's not built that way, you know. I mean there,

1369
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: but there are smaller backs that are able to burrow

1370
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: in all he's like, he's he just runs upright. I mean,

1371
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: that's the major problem is that he runs very vertical,

1372
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: but and then falls over and then okay, all right,

1373
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:15,479
Speaker 1: point being YouTube YouTube Brown. I was, were we gonna

1374
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: do that after the podcast? Is that what we're doing?

1375
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: Let's do it now, Let's do it now. Chris Ivory sucks,

1376
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: all right, okay, alright, so there you go. So that boat, uh,

1377
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: that puts a h wraps up a lot of the

1378
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: things that we've been following all season long. And you

1379
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: know what, that's the fun part about Fantasy too. How

1380
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: by the way, how fired up were you when when

1381
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: Brandon fell caught that long touchdown. I was so stupid,

1382
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: I told you, But it's great. I was just so

1383
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: awesome about Fantasy. I was with my dad because it's

1384
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, like I had just gotten home from working

1385
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: that day and like when that game was on and

1386
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: I was like, no, Brandon fell like and he's like,

1387
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: what what is wrong with you? I was like, oh,

1388
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was like, if I

1389
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: explained to you and explained that this is a work thing,

1390
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna realized how ridiculous. I love this stuff though.

1391
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: It's so much fun. I love this stuff and that's

1392
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: what makes fantasy fun. Anyways, alright, so it makes fantasy fun.

1393
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: The podcast, So, James, I disagree. How did you discover

1394
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,479
Speaker 1: this through this mashup that we're going? Oh my god.

1395
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: First of all, you guys have no idea the So

1396
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: I've got, like, you know, I've got like forty podcasts

1397
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: on my computer right now, okay, and I was trying

1398
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 1: to go through almost all of them, trying to find

1399
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: themes in the podcast. Uh the grinding the tape grinding

1400
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: tape on the podcast. H The Fiery Phoner obviously was

1401
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: the easiest one because that was every Friday, You're welcome.

1402
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: You knew it was coming, and they were already they're

1403
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: already so many great moments in the phone or I

1404
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,479
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, obviously that's gonna be the first one. Um,

1405
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: and then I try to find some other themes. There

1406
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: are some listen guys listening to the podcast skill, I'm

1407
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: telling you we've got I'm gonna have a best of

1408
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: the podcast read. It's like it's gonna be like the

1409
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: Fantasy MVP Award. But there are some amazing segments. But uh,

1410
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: I need to find some smaller things in the podcast

1411
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: themes that that that we could share as well. Um.

1412
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: I started going through and I'm like, Whitnesday, I have

1413
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount of singing clips and they're all terrible,

1414
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: and they are all terrible. So now we will be

1415
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: voting for best of the worst Singing of the NFL

1416
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: Fantasy Live Podcast. All right, here we go, best horrible Singing.

1417
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. It's like, kind of I didn't

1418
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: mean for it to sound that way, but I think

1419
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: like it's just it just kind of came out that

1420
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: way though. So whatever you Gal has music, this is

1421
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 1: a This is a summary of Gal hards music takes,

1422
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: boy band, pop music, who was inc and the most

1423
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: garbage hard rock metal possible. Everything. I just summed up

1424
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: everything Nickelback did, Oh the Hero Heroster God and showing

1425
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: d the show. So I quote tweeted marks this picture

1426
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: with that lyric. How do you make that voice come

1427
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: out of you? I'm very talented. There seems to be

1428
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: an issue with my mic went off for a second.

1429
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure that was an accident. Oh yeah, it's completely accident.

1430
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: My god. I feel like most of them, why are

1431
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: these all? They're all Harmon, you know, it's it's too

1432
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: Harmon and too well, too Harmon and to me and

1433
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: because we joined in one together. Ye wow. So these

1434
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: are your three nominating I think I just died. I

1435
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: forgot about I forgot that. I chimed in on the

1436
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: in sync one because I was like, I remember when

1437
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: Harmon did this, and I was like, oh no, I

1438
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 1: did false set up things? Are? You're thrown out? Gail

1439
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: Hart in Sync is one nominee. Harmon gel Harmashup Nickelback

1440
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: is your other nominee. Harmon with wonder Wall is your final.

1441
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: Forget it was Harmon Guilhardt Nickelback featuring Josie Scott from Saliva.

1442
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,440
Speaker 1: That was deep. That's it was the Spider Man one sound.

1443
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: That addition there, I mean like I was leaning that

1444
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: way with that addition there. I mean, I feel like

1445
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: it's you know it was. It was. It was the

1446
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: spider Mad song by questionable band sung poorly. I feel

1447
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: like that's that's the winner. Here's the thing spider Man.

1448
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: By the way, these were the three bands that were nominated.

1449
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: Okay in sync Nickelback featuring Josie Scott from Saliva she

1450
01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: Uh and Wonder Wall Sorr Oasis is Good. Is all

1451
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 1: irrelevant unless you're a forty year old dadas. This is

1452
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 1: not fourty year old dad music. What is it? And

1453
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: what is it? Kind is like? No, not like forty

1454
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: year old life has passed him by a loan at

1455
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: a bar somewhere. No, it's forty year old dad music

1456
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: that you pop on in front of your kids to

1457
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: be like, see you guys, I'm not I'm not a

1458
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: total dweeb. See I listened to this back in my day.

1459
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: I listen to this cassette. All right, who's gonna start

1460
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: the voting? I mean, isn't it easy? I feel like

1461
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: it's got to be then got to be Nickelback and

1462
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: I can. I don't know. I would vote for Nickelback

1463
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: just because I had me laughing. But the best part

1464
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: of that match up to me was Harmon describing Ghar's

1465
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: musical thing. That's why I was gonna go. I was

1466
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: crying just now. That was just me reporting fact. Yeah,

1467
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: those are not fact. I don't know. It's close. I was.

1468
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: I was going to vote in Sync. That's my vote.

1469
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: I like my votes, the Hero one, the Spiderman one Spiderman. Alright,

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01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: so I think I think nickel Back is the winner.

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01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: I think nickel Backs the runaway winner. Is that your choice?

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01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: I was. I was a toss up between end Sync

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01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: because my own falsetto caught me by surprise. It was

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01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: good and then and like I said, the breakdown of

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01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: your basic taste was also it was also quite strong.

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01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: But I think it's hard to get away from the

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: organ the Organic de Wet, because it features two trash

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: artists and two trash singers and that was well speak well,

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01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: speak for yourself one. Uh no, I've got video evidence

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 1: of well that what I'm saying. When I'm saying that

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01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: doesn't count, I mean I haven't, I haven't, no, no, no,

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: we we listen. We went to karaoke night pell Oh. Yeah,

1483
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: we've gotten into that. We've got visual evidence. Now that

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01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 1: is your sad ever makes it out to the public.

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: My god on multiple for multiple Yeah. Man, the listeners,

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01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: y'all don't know, all right, I think so. I think

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01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: nickel backs the round the way win. I mean, it's

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01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: a show end. It was a show stopper. We were

1489
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: already at a really bad point in the podcast when

1490
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 1: that started, just like I feel like we're at now. Yeah,

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01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: So you're inaugural best of Worth singing for the NFL

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: Fancy Alf Podcast. Congratulations Matt Harmon and Alex Skill harm

1493
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: for your rendition of as they give each other an

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01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: air high five of nickel back. Hey, we're a great

1495
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: team when it comes to singing. Oh boy, all right,

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01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: so there you go. Let's get to Daily DAPs to

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01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: get out describing depths depth for a show that we

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01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: don't have anything to talk about. It's run pretty much.

1499
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: We was. I was going to point that out as well.

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01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: That is amazing. That is amazing. Alright, Daily DAP time,

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01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: give it to me, Matt Harmon. It's so I think

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01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: my Daily DAP is gonna be a little bit more

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: sports related. I'm gonna give a DAP to Eli Manning,

1504
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: which sounds weird in this midst of this horrible season

1505
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: he's having, but I'm gonna give adapt to Eli Manning

1506
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: for his ability to be actually somewhat funny in slapping

1507
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: down the non story story of Odell and the boys

1508
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: on the boat. I love the fact that he just

1509
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: bit back with you know, I was disappointed to see

1510
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: that they really didn't they weren't preparing well. I mean,

1511
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: they didn't even pack shirts for the trip. I thought

1512
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: that was really good, I thought so, I think, I

1513
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: think that's fun I think I was nicely done, just

1514
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: because I think this entire story is ridiculous. We were

1515
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: talking about this at lunch today, how it's it's great,

1516
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: how the media is like this, and I say this

1517
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: as media. I realized that I'm doing that thing that

1518
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: I hate. But like, it's just funny that so many

1519
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: people are like, the team has said, this is not

1520
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: a story, it's not a big deal, coaches said that,

1521
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: quarterback has said that. But then people in some outlets

1522
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: are still like, yeah, but we're still gonna talk about it.

1523
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: They're not telling the truth, Like let's it's definitely still

1524
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 1: a story. But like the team has said, its story.

1525
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: And I think Eli has done a really good job

1526
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: of being funny about that. So he gets my Dad, MG,

1527
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: my guy, Marcus Grant. Um, I want to daily, Dad,

1528
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: I want to day that the Rose Bowl, that the

1529
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: game itself not not obviously you know, being there on

1530
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: Monday was a lot of fun and it was great,

1531
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: but um, just it reminded me how amazing it is

1532
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: as a sporting event in and of itself, and just

1533
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that it should be on

1534
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: your sports bucket list to do at some point. Um,

1535
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: you know. And I say that because I was sort

1536
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: of like so so about actually going to the game. Um,

1537
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: anyone who lives in Los Angeles knows how much of

1538
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: a hassle it is to get to the Rose Bowl Stadium.

1539
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's you understand, getting through Pasadena, which

1540
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: is just this kind of the sleepy little town, Um,

1541
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: this little city, and it's in in a canyon, in

1542
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: a residential neighborhood, adjacent to a golf course where you

1543
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: have to park. If you're not they're like super early

1544
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: or have special parking. I mean, everything about it just

1545
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: seems like a nightmare. And I felt kind of like,

1546
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: I don't really know if I want to go, but

1547
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: my dad is coming to town and he really wants

1548
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: to go, so let's figure it out. And being there

1549
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: um on New Year's Day or around New Year's Day

1550
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: for that game, and seeing just all the pacheon treet

1551
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: that goes in there, and even just being in that

1552
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: stadium where it is, you know, half one team's color

1553
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: and half the other team's color, and just the excitement

1554
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: and everything that goes into it. Um yeah, it just

1555
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: reminded me that that it's a really really special thing

1556
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: to do and if you are a sports fan of

1557
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: any stripe, that it is something that you should you

1558
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: should acquire to do, you should you aspire to be there.

1559
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: And so, um, you know, congrats to them for putting

1560
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: on another great show, uh the game, especially if you

1561
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 1: you know, if you were even just a neutral party,

1562
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: it was just amazing to watch. Um. So yeah, daily

1563
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: death to the folks in Pasadena for for year in and

1564
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: and year out for the was it the hundred and

1565
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 1: third year putting on a really great show And maybe

1566
01:16:53,760 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: one day the cow Bears can experience oh oh, unprovoked, unprovoked.

1567
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of your boy USC the podcast, USC's quarterbacks Sam

1568
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: Donald has won the Archie Griffin Awards. Was most Valuable

1569
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: Player for the entire season, first freshman to ever win itsgelation,

1570
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I was, I was happy for the conference,

1571
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: and here comes Marcus Grant. Just blow torch. What's up

1572
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: with that? You know you'll get us? Oh my god,

1573
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: that was just uncalled for. Al Right, whiz kid, what's up?

1574
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna adapt the movie Lion. It's uh not out

1575
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: super wide, but if you live in a major city

1576
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: you'll probably able to get check it out. It's starring

1577
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: Deaf Patel who was in Slum Doc Millionaire, Nicole Kidman's

1578
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 1: in it, Rooney Mars in it. It was a surprisingly

1579
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 1: really good story and I didn't realize at first that

1580
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: it was based on a true story. It's based on

1581
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: the book and of this guy who, as a child,

1582
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: I think he was living in in India, accidentally got

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01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: on a passenger train that took him thousands away, miles

1584
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: away from his house. He was five years old, couldn't

1585
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: get off, didn't speak It dropped him in Calcutta, didn't

1586
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: speak the English, survived a bunch of hardships, was in

1587
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: like a foster home and was adopted by an Australian family.

1588
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: And then twenty five years later realized it's like I

1589
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: need to try and go back and find my birth

1590
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: mother and my family and stuff. So it's his journey

1591
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: through all that as a child, and you get him

1592
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: as an adult and he's played by death Ptel and

1593
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: then his journey trying to find his home because he

1594
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: I mean, he was five when he was on a

1595
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: train that traveled for three, like two or three days,

1596
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: so he has this wide range of train stops in India.

1597
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: He's trying to narrow down and find his family from

1598
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: and his true story. And it's it was really well done.

1599
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: It's really cool, and it's a it's a smaller movie

1600
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: that's not getting as much attention. It's been nominated for

1601
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of awards, so hopefully it picks up some steam.

1602
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: But wasn't there an ad for Google or something that

1603
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: had to do with that? Probably because he used Google Earth,

1604
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: like the actual person did. Google Earth had popped up

1605
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: shortly after this time because he was talking about with

1606
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: people and they were like, you should try and use

1607
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: Google Earth. Yeah, he used Google Earth to help help

1608
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: find it. I mean, I haven't read the book. That's

1609
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of what's partially portrayed in the movies. Amusing

1610
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: Google Earth. So but it's a really it's a really

1611
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: good movie. Uh. You know, want a good heartwarming tale

1612
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: as as uh, you know, we need some of those

1613
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: once in a while. It's pretty cool. I will daily

1614
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: dap the uh the GOP congressman's son, Roger Marshall's son.

1615
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: Did you guys see this Roger Marshall was getting uh

1616
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: sworn in at the Nation's capital. It was Roger Marshall,

1617
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,759
Speaker 1: who is a GOP congressman. Uh. It was how speaker

1618
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: Paul Ryan swearing in Roger Marshall, Roger Marshall's son was

1619
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: there holding the Bible, and he then during the photo op,

1620
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: proceeded to start dabbing repeated repeatedly. He's a teenager, like

1621
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen or something, but like it was so

1622
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: the thing was so he had one hand on the

1623
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: Bible and the other hand was he was dabbing, and

1624
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: Paul Ryan was so confused. Paul Ryan asked him if

1625
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: he was all right and was wondering if he was.

1626
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: He was asking me, are you about to sneeze? That's amazing.

1627
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: He didn't understand what was happening. But then they start

1628
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: doing the whole photo and his arm still does not

1629
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: go down by so then Paul Ryan then physically pushed

1630
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: his arm down. Do you think do you think Paul

1631
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: Ryan uh I didn't know what he was doing. I

1632
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: think I think you see I I would present a

1633
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: different possibilities and that he knew what the kid was

1634
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: doing and was trying to not so like to subtly

1635
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: say like are you trying to sneeze right now? Like

1636
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: like are you really doing that at this moment? I

1637
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: think that's the potential. I don't know. I've looked at

1638
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: the video and like the look on Paul Ryan's face,

1639
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,520
Speaker 1: he didn't look upset at first. He just was confused,

1640
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: like utterly, utterly confused. I only heard the audio of it.

1641
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: I didn't see the video. So it was amazing. That's great.

1642
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It's all over the twitters, so go

1643
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: find but but but daily DAPs to Roger Marshall's kid

1644
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 1: that opportunity. That's awesome, which is just like, come, it's great.

1645
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: I mean talking about the most random place ever to

1646
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: go see a dab is at a GOP congressman swearing

1647
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: in ceremony. Pretty great. What that's awesome, That's great? Alright, France,

1648
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: what you got Alright, I'm gonna daily DAPs. This show

1649
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 1: I've been watching on A and E UM. It's a

1650
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: documentary about Scientology produced by Leah Remini, who's actress. She

1651
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: was a former scientologist herself for at least twenty years,

1652
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: I think. So it's basically, uh like a mini series

1653
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: and each episode, basically she's meeting with people who either

1654
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 1: were high up in the Church of Scientology or had

1655
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: been in the Church of Scientology for twenty thirty years

1656
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: and have left. And they're all of their individual stories

1657
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: of tragic loss and sadness and just being disconnected from

1658
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: family members and trying to reunite, and how the Church

1659
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: of Scientology holds people back from having personal relationships. And

1660
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's emotional. It's so eye opening and enlightening

1661
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: as to a sham, the sham that the Church of

1662
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 1: Scientology is, and it just brainwatches people. Um. And there

1663
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: was this documentary a few years ago on HBO I

1664
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: think it was called Going Clear that basically it was

1665
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: like two and a half hours that was basically like,

1666
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: this is who l Ron Hubbard is, like his life

1667
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: the guy who started Scientology kind of brings you through

1668
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: what Scientology is and about is about and this is

1669
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: very different where it's like these people's personal stories and

1670
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: they're crying on camera and like just wearing their heart

1671
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 1: on their sleeves about what they've gone through and how

1672
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: crazy it is. And I can imagine it's ridiculous. I

1673
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, but I can imagine it's a it's

1674
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: got to be a pretty good one. Remedy has talked

1675
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: about openly about how emotional of a journey it's been

1676
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: for her to kind of leave the church Scientology for sure,

1677
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: and once you leave, like they come after you, they

1678
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: spy on you, and they try to make your life

1679
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 1: hell and living in Hollywood like they own a bunch

1680
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: of buildings a yard. On my way to the gym,

1681
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: I walk past like the l round Hubbard Theater every

1682
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: day and it's like really surreal, just like seeing the propaganda.

1683
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,919
Speaker 1: So I wonder if we have any Scientologist listeners. That's interesting.

1684
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: They're not allowed to like listen to me media. No,

1685
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: it's like a thing like they scare you into not

1686
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: reading press that's negative about Scientology. That's when you're in there.

1687
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: And if they do come, if they do and they

1688
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: are listening, come at me Brome so you can come

1689
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: at him disappeared. It's just really good. You guys should

1690
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: watch it. It's awesome. It's on A and E. It's

1691
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: called Scientology and the Aftermath. That's interesting. Sick, that's interesting stuff.

1692
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. Pick good show today,

1693
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: Beef out of Nowhere. I like it for MG my guy,

1694
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Grant, Matt Harmon, Matt Franciscovich. And now it's all

1695
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm James called, We're out. James needs that clip Nae money.

1696
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: His life's getting cushy over there now, walking in with cupcakes.

1697
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: It's fancy clothes. Yeah, shirts tucked in today. Yeah, look

1698
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: at that. How much did that watch this one? I'm

1699
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: gonna go with five. Yeah, it probably was five d bucks. Actually,

1700
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Actually I think I bought it

1701
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: on sale for five bucks. So I guess the clip

1702
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: Nae plays pays well, huh from the last not sure

1703
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 1: about that. You can't prove it's not quite not quite

1704
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 1: my narratives. Let's see the receipt, brokay. All right, Okay,

1705
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, making all this basketball money while it's

1706
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: football people are just withering away, withering. I don't know

1707
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 1: where I don't know where my next meal is coming

1708
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: from my first day off. I'm going to be in

1709
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: the in the streets of Hollywood, scrounging change from the sidewalk.

1710
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,440
Speaker 1: You're not maybe maybe the burrito truck will have some

1711
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: some drawings. You're not even you're not even living, Patrick,

1712
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: you're living day to day. Yeah okay, yeah, okay, you wouldn't.

1713
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know anything about saving for a wedding. By

1714
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: far the least of the common man here. Wow, that

1715
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 1: escalated quickly. I apologized, James, where'd you get your hairs out? Too?

1716
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: Who styled it for you? Who styled it? I actually

1717
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: got my hair cut? I actually get this is this

1718
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: is the rich getting richer. I get free haircut from

1719
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: talent services. Talent Services service, talent service. That looks like

1720
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 1: some expensive product. Probably it's it's crue. Isn't an amazing

1721
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: That's do this to me all the time at our desks,

1722
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: like because some of them gets nibble. Stick has been

1723
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: this stick is well practiced. Just they trained back and

1724
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: forth as they feast on your flesh.