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Speaker 1: My parents have a dog that's penis got chopped off

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Speaker 1: for science.

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Speaker 2: So wait what Lane?

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Speaker 3: Save it for the episode.

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Speaker 1: Gamsay Media Larga.

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Speaker 2: Have you spent a lot of time around monkeys?

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Speaker 3: No, this was the easiest first question I've ever gotten in.

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Speaker 2: But there's a part too show. Oh sorry, okay, don't

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Speaker 2: be too happy with yourself. There's a part two. How

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Speaker 2: would you stop a monkey gang war?

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Speaker 3: Oh? My monkey gang war? You're talking about like a

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Speaker 3: different group of monkeys wanting to go to war with

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Speaker 3: another group of monkeys. Yep, this episode is just Planet

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Speaker 3: of the Apes. That's all. You're sticking taj off me, You.

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Speaker 2: Damn dirty ape. Don't dodge the question.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the dumbest thing is just to get

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Speaker 3: on the bullhorn and be like, guys, there are so

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Speaker 3: many bananas. You're gonna be fine. You don't need to

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Speaker 3: be like this. I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: Well, lucky for you, we're gonna answer that question this episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Dean.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Rory Skoebel, and you are listening to Crimeless.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to crime Less, the podcast that celebrates the

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Speaker 2: amazing creativity of the world dumbest criminals who are mostly

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Speaker 2: but not always humans.

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Speaker 3: I'm just Deine and I'm Rory Schuebel.

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Speaker 2: This week on Crime Less, we tackle gang violence, the

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Speaker 2: terrifying true story of one popular town in Thailand where

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Speaker 2: two rival gangs took over and made the place inhospitable

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Speaker 2: for tourists and for residents, once place where shit really

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Speaker 2: went sideways. Before the pandemic, Lobory, Thailand was an Eden,

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Speaker 2: but after lockdown it was basically a no go zone

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Speaker 2: where violent gangs drunk on power rule the streets, taking

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Speaker 2: over cinemas and rioting over food supplies. Cops couldn't stop

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Speaker 2: these gangs or reason with them. So what happened and

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Speaker 2: how did the government end this reign of terror? Also,

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Speaker 2: I should remind you these were gangs of monkeys.

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Speaker 3: Remind us none of us have pictured monkeys till right now.

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Speaker 2: That's why I asked you the question at the top.

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Speaker 2: You didn't see this coming. I'm guessing you want to

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Speaker 2: hear the story. Please continue, So I'm going to paint

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Speaker 2: the scene for you. All Right, your neighborhood has been

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Speaker 2: completely taken over occupied. You can't walk home from school

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Speaker 2: or work without fearing a monkey attack. Oh man, your

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Speaker 2: dangling earrings, headphones, your wallet, everything is at risk of

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Speaker 2: being snatched by monkey fingers. If you venture outside, you

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Speaker 2: are warned to avoid eye contact with monkeys. It's best

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Speaker 2: and safest to travel in groups. You can't go to

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Speaker 2: the movies anymore. That's their theater. Now. Businesses and neighbors

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Speaker 2: install bars and fencing around windows and doors, desperate to

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Speaker 2: that happened in Thailand. This is so.

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Speaker 3: I just love that bars are still staying open. Get

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Speaker 2: No, those are bars on windows, although I assume bars.

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Speaker 3: A restaurants are still.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise the monkeys have won. Yeah, we will not let

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Speaker 2: But so, this is real. It's a small city of

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Speaker 2: It's known for its macaque monkeys that live in the city,

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Speaker 3: The monkey is absolutely adorable. I gotta say, size wise,

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Speaker 3: That is terrifying. So if that is attacking, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Three of them? Oh man, three, if only three?

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Speaker 3: If only three? But I just I mean, if we're

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Speaker 2: Since then, lot Bori's monkeys have been symbols of good

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Speaker 3: Oh God, But and then some got iPhones and some

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Speaker 2: Let me see how they set the table for this disaster.

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Speaker 2: The city has for a long time hosted the annual

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you named all that food and lettuce

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Speaker 2: Well they were, they thought they were friends, but then

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Speaker 3: I want to say COVID. I want to say the election.

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Speaker 3: I know that Monkey City and Thailand are very connected

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Speaker 2: They're known for wearing tiny red hats. So the pandemic hit,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love this. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: They started small, they started stealing from the locals, and

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Speaker 2: the townies tried to appease them by giving them junk food.

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Speaker 2: Oh not fresh fruits, but like candy and.

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Speaker 3: Like kit cats. And they're like, we want lettuce, you know,

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Speaker 2: Wait till you hear what this did. So the sugary

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Speaker 2: there are thousands of angry, horny monkeys.

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Speaker 3: People's lives are so different in so many different places.

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Speaker 2: This is not how your pandemic went. I was horny. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what are you also living on snacks?

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Speaker 3: I was living on kit cats walking around the house.

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Speaker 3: I loved that. The thing that you can sort of

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Speaker 3: The monkeys aren't going to understand when someone says, hey,

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Speaker 2: They're like, where's the monkey buffet festival?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where's the buffet? Where's the arugula. I'm never going

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Speaker 2: You can imagine. It's just chaos, right, so you can

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Speaker 3: And Yack, not Caesar. They didn't go with Caesar, missed opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Nope, Crow and Yak. And so the town of La

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Speaker 3: When you say they took over a cinema, is there

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Speaker 2: The ones that the train thing is wild to me.

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Speaker 2: The train running? Like did they they took it over?

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Speaker 2: And a monkey drove the train?

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Speaker 3: Oh great question. I just love seeing a monkey politely

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Speaker 2: Well, if it had been an island and humans never

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Speaker 3: They just take over. Yeah, I mean they already split

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, this is where so things get worse. Feeding

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Speaker 2: out of people's hands. On an infamous monkey known as

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Speaker 3: And you just got to wonder, why was that at

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Speaker 3: The clipboard. It was the clipboard. Doesn't that one kind

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Speaker 3: of remind you of a gym teacher just to get up?

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Speaker 2: Not only did he target kids, he was quick and agile,

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Speaker 2: known to pull the tranquilizer darts out of his fur

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Speaker 3: That's a level of hunger I've never experienced. Can't even

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Speaker 2: Some shop owners tried warding off monkey shop lifters by

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Speaker 2: All right, So we're starting to get now we're halfway through.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to go like early on, Oh you

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 3: How do you regain your your ground?

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Speaker 2: Well? Remember this is a town where they were revered

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Speaker 3: Exactly, but those times have changed drastically. You can't even

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what the anti monkey unit did.

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Speaker 2: Their plan was arrest and neuter Wow, arrest Okay, So

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Speaker 2: Neutering them stops future angry monkeys from being born, it

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Speaker 2: They baited cages. The monkey's favorite food not bananas, something

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Speaker 2: Soon after the rast has had begun, about thirty monkeys

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean you you are up against incredibly

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Speaker 2: You've now taken away their food.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly their survival.

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Speaker 2: Well, so the cops switched to a more aggressive strategy,

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Speaker 3: No no foresight into where should we put the dot?

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Speaker 2: Lene, do we have some pictures of this?

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Speaker 3: You couldn't give them like just a nice beauty mark,

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Speaker 2: Monkeys or on their butts, no tramp Stampfia.

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Speaker 3: Well, that dot is so much bigger than I would

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Speaker 3: So this is a monkey that has clearly been tranquilized.

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Speaker 2: It's a Hitler mustache.

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Speaker 3: It is such a perfectly round Hitler mustache. It's such

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Speaker 2: So this is a new image to conjure, which is

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Speaker 3: Yes. Do you think the monkeys were aware they were

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Speaker 3: They got Kraw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the I mean, you cut off the head

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad you said that.

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Speaker 2: As of August of this year, police had arrested more

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Speaker 2: than one thousand, two hundred monkeys. The Prime Minister gave

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Speaker 2: The capacity was about three thousand monkeys, but with no

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Speaker 2: My concern is we can provide food for twelve hundred

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Speaker 2: We won't have the budget for that. The budget for

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Speaker 2: four thousand monkeys would be more than twenty million bot,

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Speaker 2: which is eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars for food,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: See you've had a refugee crisis.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, that is man, It's like a.

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Speaker 2: Metal four for America.

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Speaker 3: It's just absurd. It's it's absurd, the all of it,

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Speaker 3: everything you've just said to me and our listeners, all

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Speaker 2: And yet I haven't made up a word of it.

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Speaker 3: And yet it's all so real. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I know you're thinking, why is this not the biggest

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Speaker 3: Before twenty twenty? That does sound so fun. You go

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Speaker 3: It's what do you do?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: What do you even do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, things have quieted down a bit, so it

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how you can transition back to hey,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it takes. I don't know. If

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Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta have a parade.

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Speaker 2: These solutions parade, okay, Well, right to the town. I

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Speaker 3: You know how many people have just looked at the

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Speaker 3: we just go back?

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll go to their website and submit the parade recommendation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get a big float of an iceberg let his head.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it's gonna take. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: do some sort of like, hey, here's a cruise ship.

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Speaker 3: We want to make this good. Just come out here.

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Speaker 3: It's all you can eat, there's music, there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a party, there's gonna be drinking. What level of drinking

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Speaker 3: they broke into a pub they discovered booze.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's actually a brilliant solution. You lure them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get them a little drunk, You get them

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Speaker 2: Drunk, and then just the boat stays at sea forever.

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Speaker 3: Well. I think you lavish them in so much luxury

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Speaker 3: guys are that's that was pretty cool what you did

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were proposing we trap them on

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding? They're gonna take over the ship and

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Speaker 3: come back there. They're not gonna fall for that. There's

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Speaker 3: no falling for that. They're coming right back.

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Speaker 2: Or they're gonna end up somewhere else they can like,

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Speaker 2: they'll be like, oh France is nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were just a normal island and then just

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Speaker 2: All right, well, after the break, I have a second

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Speaker 4: Oh this is kryless.

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Speaker 2: Now that you know, well sort of know how to

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Speaker 2: be useful if a gang of Macacus tried to take over.

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Speaker 3: Your city or state? Could I be useful?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, no, but I will say I mean there's there's

441
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Speaker 3: some there's stuff to take away from here. The sterilizing

442
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: is obviously, I feel like the most peaceful it seems,

443
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't. I don't know what you would

444
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Speaker 3: do if you have a soul. And granted yes this

445
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 3: is coming from poison guy, but if you have a soul,

446
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 3: you're going to be like, well, naturally, they're confused as

447
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: to why everything shifted. I don't know. I don't know

448
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Speaker 3: what you do.

449
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: Well, you may have to worry about this because last

450
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Speaker 2: week people may be listening to this long after we record.

451
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: But in the context of when we're talking today, last week,

452
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: forty three macaque monkeys, the very same breed as the

453
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Speaker 2: ones that taken over Lot Bory, escaped from a research facility.

454
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Speaker 2: Not in Thailand, oh god, in South Carolina?

455
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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

456
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Speaker 2: Where, which I believe is your home state, that is

457
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Speaker 2: my home state.

458
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Speaker 3: Where in South Carolina?

459
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Speaker 2: Do we know the Alpha Genesis research facility?

460
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Speaker 3: Enough said, I know exactly where that is.

461
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Speaker 2: You do ya, MASSI Yemassy. Do you know a town

462
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Speaker 2: because I don't know.

463
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Speaker 3: A Alpha Genesis research facility? Of course I know where

464
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Speaker 3: that is.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna map up. You know, you know South Carolina?

466
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Speaker 3: You tell us I know South Carolina?

467
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Speaker 4: All right?

468
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Speaker 3: So not far from Charleston, not far from Hilton Head Island, Okay,

469
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Speaker 3: Fort Beaufort. Oh, that's gonna be befort.

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Speaker 2: Are there any relatives of yours in that vicinity?

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Speaker 4: No?

472
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Speaker 3: I mean I know I have a lot of friends

473
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Speaker 3: in Charleston. Forty three escaped.

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Speaker 2: So how do you think they got out? They?

475
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Speaker 3: I mean, knowing how smart these monkeys are in Thailand,

476
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Speaker 3: part of me thinks they quickly grabbed one guard and

477
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Speaker 3: just like in a movie, quickly put on their clothes,

478
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Speaker 3: all forty three inside one outfit. They all had on

479
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Speaker 3: a trench coat. They stood on each other's shoulders. They

480
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: walked right out of that facility, and they didn't know

481
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Speaker 3: they were gone for at least a week.

482
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Speaker 2: One monkey leader took the opportunity and ran out the door,

483
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Speaker 2: and the others followed. Journalists flooded the zone, and a

484
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Speaker 2: CBS News reporter delivered this Hall of Famer of a

485
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Speaker 2: question to Alpha Gennis's CEO.

486
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Speaker 3: So the reason why they got out was literally monkey see,

487
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Speaker 3: monkey do? And the CEO answered no further questions. Do

488
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Speaker 3: you think that care taker was at home in bed

489
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Speaker 3: and just rolled over to his wife and he goes,

490
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Speaker 3: you're not gonna believe this. I think I forgot to

491
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Speaker 3: close the I forgot to close the latch. Remember that

492
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Speaker 3: story I told you about those monkeys taking over that

493
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Speaker 3: I might have just done that to South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if we need to pause, you can call

495
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Speaker 2: relatives and warn them. I mean we can take some time.

496
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Speaker 2: Are you guys, good guys?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

498
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Speaker 2: Well, the town chief of police said the monkeys were

499
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Speaker 2: not likely to be aggressive towards humans. They are quote

500
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Speaker 2: very young females who each weigh less than ten pounds. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 2: they haven't yet been tested on so they don't pose

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Speaker 2: any infectious disease threat. Wow, okay. Officials are urging residents

503
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Speaker 2: to close their doors and windows and to call nine

504
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Speaker 2: to one one if they see a monkey.

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Speaker 3: The sheriff was quoted saying the monkeys do not pose

506
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Speaker 3: an actual threat. Please do not google.

507
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Speaker 2: Thailand macac monkeys, and please do not google.

508
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Speaker 3: Monkeysland for any reason. They are fine and they're super peaceful.

509
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: If they ask for let us.

510
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: Run. Yeah, lock the cinema immediately.

511
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Speaker 3: Do not go to the movies, and make sure you

512
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Speaker 3: have a lot of bagged salad ready for them.

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Speaker 2: This is an amazing loophole that makes you like have

514
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 2: Maybe these monkeys are brilliant. Some say that the monkeys

515
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: may have a legal claim to freedom, while Alpha Genesis

516
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: may have a strong financial incentive to recapture the escape monkeys.

517
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Speaker 2: Long standing legal doctrines suggest that the eighteen monkeys still

518
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: at large, so they've caught some of them by now. Okay,

519
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: so we went forty three still eighteen okay, may not

520
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: belong to the company as long as they remain free

521
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: and outside its custody.

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Speaker 3: I love that that sentence started with maybe maybe these

523
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: monkeys are kind of smart, and then you went on

524
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Speaker 3: to explain they've already acquired legal services.

525
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Speaker 2: They're like, here's the loophole, guys, good news. As long

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Speaker 2: as you can stay on the run.

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Speaker 3: Us eighteen monkey did a little research and we found

528
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Speaker 3: out we're allowed to stay out here forever.

529
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Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine, like if they can like

530
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: stay on the and then start having babies and then

531
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Speaker 2: ten years from now, you're gonna go home to South Carolina. Yeah,

532
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Speaker 2: and they're gonna be monkeys.

533
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Speaker 3: I can't even imagine meeting someone at a bar whose

534
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: answer is what do I do for a living? I

535
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Speaker 3: work at Alpha Genesis Research facility.

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Speaker 2: What do you do there?

537
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: Oh?

538
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Speaker 3: You know those monkeys that escaped and took over five towns,

539
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: that's my work.

540
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Speaker 2: That's me.

541
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Speaker 3: I'm the guy who left the cage open.

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Speaker 2: This actually is not the first time animals have escaped

543
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Speaker 2: from Alpha Genesis which houses about seven thousand monkeys for

544
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Speaker 2: scientific research. Monkeys escape often enough that it has become

545
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: part of the town's lore, and some locals will even

546
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: set food outside for the monkeys. This is the largest

547
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Speaker 2: group of monkeys to ever escape in the town. Alpha's CEO, however,

548
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: a real downer reigned on this parade and said, many

549
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Speaker 2: towns people believe they've seen a monkey have in fact

550
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Speaker 2: seen a squirrel. I feel like that's classic pr.

551
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the most just gas light the town.

552
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's a squirrel. Okay, so just the town

553
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: is that there's this idiots the squirrel opened my door,

554
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, honey, and another escaped monkey. Oh sorry, no,

555
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: that's a horse.

556
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Speaker 2: Police and the research facility are using cages, thermal imaging,

557
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: and pieces of fresh fruit and vegetables to attempt to

558
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: capture the rogue monkeys. Most of them have been captured,

559
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: but as of this taping, only eight are still on

560
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: the loose. Alpha Genesis told CBS News that efforts to

561
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Speaker 2: recover the remaining monkeys would quote continue for as long

562
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Speaker 2: as it takes.

563
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. How that ceo still has his job and yet

564
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: makes the town seem like they're morons. Yeah, why are

565
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: monkeys always escaping?

566
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Speaker 2: Imagine what's being done to them?

567
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Speaker 1: Headline that just less than twenty four hours ago. Alpha

568
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Speaker 1: Genesis CEO said employees center of Monkeys escape walked off

569
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Speaker 1: the job and has not returned.

570
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what I want to say, it's

571
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: less about embarrassment and more the monkeys probably killed him.

572
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: The monkeys didn't actually go far at all. They're actually

573
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: staying in the woods right outside the research facility and

574
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: just playing in the trees.

575
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There's a quote here from the CBS news story that

577
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: says they're just being goofy monkeys, jumping back and forth,

578
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: playing with each other. It's kind of like a playground

579
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: situation here, and they're putting out traps and the monkeys

580
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: are out witting the traps, of course, grabbing the food

581
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Speaker 2: and not getting trapped, and then they go back to

582
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Speaker 2: the top of the trees where no one.

583
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: Can get them. I like that their natural lifestyle is

584
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: described as goofy. They're just this is what they are. Yeah,

585
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: they're just monkeys being of these silly monkeys. What they're

586
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: not being silly? They escaped, They escaped from a facility

587
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: they should not have been able to escape from and.

588
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: Arguably should not have been in the first place, because

589
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Speaker 2: I don't know how we feel or I don't know

590
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: if crimeos is if we take a stance on Monkey Research.

591
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, fan, you know, ever since seeing Project X, I've

592
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: been wildly anti Monkey Research.

593
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: Or Outbreak starring Dustin Hoffman or Outbreak. Well, if we

594
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 2: need to end a little earliest, so as you can

595
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: call relatives, if you need to get to South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: You guys, good, you guys.

597
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: Okay, we couldn't believe it because we were talking about

598
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: this story already, and then I became fascinated with the

599
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: because it's become a bit of a meme, the monkeys

600
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: on the run in South Carolina, Like it's being covered

601
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: by lots of people who are amused and want them

602
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: to stay free. And then I was like, any chance

603
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: those will be the same monkeys as the ones in Tayland.

604
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they are. They're macaqus. So it's just like,

605
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: this is the sequel to the movie, the one. The

606
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: first one ended with the cruise ship crashing into like Sanchope,

607
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: right right, and now it's this, this is the sequel. Yeah,

608
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: well it starts with someone you know, at the diner

609
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: in this town saying, well, thank god, there's a nocean

610
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: between us.

611
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: And though they're not gonna be able to get here,

612
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: dunt dunt dum. Yeah.

613
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: Then it's the guy rolling over in bed saying, oh

614
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: my god, you're not babe, babe, wake up.

615
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: You're not gonna believe this. I left every door open

616
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: and unlocked at the facility tonight.

617
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I almost was gonna stop and wonder, like, wasn't

618
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: an accident.

619
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: Oh, and that's why he hasn't been seen.

620
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the long long play, like somebody got hired.

621
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: It's like a peda and you know, it's a pretty

622
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: good plan.

623
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Speaker 3: I like that the long play.

624
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Speaker 2: Greetings, crime Less Nation. I interrupt this week's episode with

625
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Speaker 2: an important update. We record these episodes ahead of time,

626
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: sometimes far ahead of time. That just in case you

627
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: are a resident of South Carolina and Crimeless is your

628
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: primary news source, we felt it was very important to

629
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: provide you with some critical information about this particular story.

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Speaker 2: Your long regional nightmare is over. It has been over

631
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: for some time. The last four monkeys from the group

632
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: that escaped Alpha Genesis have been recovered without casualties, and

633
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: according to Alpha Genesis CEO Greg Westergard. The animals were

634
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: unquote good health despite spending more than two months in

635
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: the wild and surviving an extremely rare South Carolina snowstorm. So,

636
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: to repeat your brief, regional nightmare has ended and you

637
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: can stop worrying about finding a macaque in your back

638
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: seat when you leave. Higley, Wiggley, that is all.

639
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: All right?

640
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: After the break our final segments, Lane, what's our final

641
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: segment this week, Lanes Games.

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Speaker 1: It's a head to head. It's a monkey or child actor.

643
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to read you a profile of a

644
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: Hollywood professional. Both worked in Hollywood or entertainment, and you

645
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: have to tell me whether it's a monkey or a child.

646
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: All right.

647
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Speaker 1: So this performer was a young Vadevillian star. With the

648
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Speaker 1: age of ten, he had his very own theater, drawing

649
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: in record breaking crowds. On opening day, he had about

650
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Speaker 1: forty five thousand people come to watch him perform. He

651
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: retired at fourteen, largely forgotten in the public eye, lived

652
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Speaker 1: a normal life. We think in monkey, we think, we think.

653
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Speaker 3: Kid, I'm gonna go monkey. I just have to go monkey.

654
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: I feel like all of them are gonna make me

655
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: want to say, kid, but it's always going to be

656
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Speaker 2: Are they all monkeys? I'm also going monkey. I'm going monkey.

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Speaker 1: You guys are right, it's a monkey. Any guesses on

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Speaker 1: which monkey?

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Speaker 2: Which monkey? Rory you go for?

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Speaker 3: I might have misled you to believe that I'm well

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Speaker 3: versed on historical monkeys.

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Speaker 1: No, this is a This is Joe Mendy the second.

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Speaker 1: He was a male chimpanzee who earned the reputation of

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Speaker 1: greatest performing chimp.

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Speaker 2: Of all time.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he lived in the Detroit Zoo. Okay, this monkey

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Speaker 1: was a silent film pine. Oh, I just reade it.

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Speaker 3: It's a Monkey's a monkey? I think it's a monkey.

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Speaker 3: Is it a monkey? It's a monkey? Toddler's monkey.

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Speaker 2: That's the twist to this one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this one, I'll just tell you it is. His

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Speaker 1: name is Joe Martin. He's an orangutang actor. He would

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Speaker 1: receive letters from all over the world because people thought

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Speaker 1: he was a little man dressed up as a monkey,

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Speaker 1: and he was in charge of opening all his own mail.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine You're about to send that letter and

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Speaker 3: someone in your family goes, what are you doing mailing

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Speaker 3: a real monkey? And they're like, I'm not an idiot.

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Speaker 3: It's a man dressed as a monkey. That's who I'm

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Speaker 3: sending snail mail to. My favorite man dressed as a monkey.

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Speaker 3: He opens his own mail. Yeah, it will take one

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Speaker 3: month to.

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Speaker 2: Get there, all right, Try not to give this one away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. This performer began his career in his native

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Speaker 1: country before moving to the US at the start of

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Speaker 1: World War Two. Over his long career, he acted in

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Speaker 1: hundreds of stage and screen roles. He never found a

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Speaker 1: partner or had any offspring of his own. He died

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Speaker 1: from lungcan are Insidio City, California.

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Speaker 3: There's some curveballs here. You're throwing out lung cancer. We're

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Speaker 3: thinking smoking. We're going to immediately think smoking Toddler. You

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Speaker 3: know what's cuter than that? But it's I feel like

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Speaker 3: it's I think all these are monkey. I think Josh

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Speaker 3: was on to something.

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Speaker 1: Is it Mickey Rooney, No, it is Roddy McDowell. He

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Speaker 1: was one of the few child actors that gracefully navigated

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Speaker 1: the transition into like adult actor.

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Speaker 2: The Planet of the Apes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's best known for his roles in the original

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Speaker 1: Planet of the Apes.

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Speaker 3: So kind of a hybrid there, So I was kind

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Speaker 3: of right, you're kind of right, yeah, half point Okay.

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Speaker 1: This performer spent much of his young life aboard a

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Speaker 1: luxury yacht. He acted on screen and stage traveled the world.

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Speaker 1: He died a premature death, a heart attack at a

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Speaker 1: young age, likely caused by smoking.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's another curveball. Ah, I'm going to constantly yess monkey.

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Speaker 2: I think because we had a human dying of lung

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Speaker 2: cancer that the smoker is a monkey.

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Speaker 1: The smoker is a monkey. This is Jimmy the Chance

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Speaker 1: born in nineteen fifty two. He was trained by a

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Speaker 1: magician and actor, and he actually on his yacht tour.

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Speaker 1: He showed up in Australia and the yacht became known

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Speaker 1: as the Monkey Ship because the locals were so impressed

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Speaker 1: by a smoking monkey.

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Speaker 2: Don't let the Macacus of Thailand hear about the ship,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: This iconic performer, at the height of her career, was

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Speaker 1: subject of many rumors, one of them that she was

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Speaker 1: actually a thirty year old man due to her presence

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Speaker 1: and stocky build. This rumor was so prevalent that the

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Speaker 1: Vatican sent a priest to investigate whether she was who she.

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Speaker 2: Said she was.

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Speaker 3: Wow human, human person yeah, I also think Sapien. I'm

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Speaker 3: going homeo Sapien on this one.

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Speaker 1: Well this, you're right, it's Shirley Temple. They thought she

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Speaker 1: was a little man what but also yank her hair

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Speaker 1: because they thought it was a wig.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone have any issue with the Vatican

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Speaker 3: getting to decide.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So this performer's breakout role was in a nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety seven Disney movie. She was three years old at

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Speaker 1: the time. Benjamin Wallash for The New York Magazine said

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Speaker 1: her IMDb page is more hit studded than most actors

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Speaker 1: three times her age. I'll give you a hint. She's

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Speaker 1: still acting today.

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Speaker 3: Monkey.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go monkey too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's this is Crystal the Monkey, dubbed Hollywood's Hottest Monkey.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 1: You might have seen her in Night of the Museum

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Speaker 1: Too and nine The zum One Hangover. You know her,

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Speaker 1: you love her. She's Crystal, all right. This young performer

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Speaker 1: is best known for her role as a depression era

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Speaker 1: grifter and humorous sidekick. She befriended Michael Jackson at an

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Speaker 1: early age. While she struggles with a and health issues,

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Speaker 1: she's still active today. Monkey a human This is Tatum O'Neill,

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Speaker 1: the youngest person ever to receive an Academy Award in

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Speaker 1: Paper Moon.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm winning.

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Speaker 1: I think you are. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think we forgot to keep score, but I think

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: No, I remember to keep scoring. I am winning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we got two more. This young performer is famous

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Speaker 1: on social media. He has over one point four million

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Speaker 1: followers on TikTok. He's best known for his iconic gesture

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Speaker 1: called mewing, in which he sucks in his cheeks and

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Speaker 1: puckers his lips. Monkey, yeah, monkey, Now this is This

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Speaker 1: is an eight year old named the Rizzler from New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I'm sad to say I know who the Wrizzler is.

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Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed to admit I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Josh, you want to explain who the Wrizzler is?

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Speaker 2: Rory, I guess you've You're a better parent than I am.

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Speaker 2: So you've been able to keep the stone out of

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Speaker 2: your daughter's hands, apparently because my kids watch lots of

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Speaker 2: YouTube stars and the Wrizzler comes from that universe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know any of this stuff. God, this,

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Speaker 3: I never felt better about my choices all right last one.

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Speaker 1: This public figure got separated from his parents in twenty

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Speaker 1: twelve and a photo of him went viral online as

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Speaker 1: he wandered around an Ikea parking lot in a big coat.

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Speaker 1: Custody battle ensued after this incident over concerns for his safety.

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Speaker 3: Easy, super easy, Josh, you go first, super easy though

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Speaker 3: the Ikea Monkey. I know the idea of mone obviously

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Speaker 3: the Ikea Monkey. I agree.

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Speaker 1: It's Tarvin tar within the Ikea Monkey, stylish but illegal.

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Speaker 1: He now lives in an animal sanctuary in Canada. He

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Speaker 1: was at first very shy and undersocialized, but now he

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Speaker 1: has a best friend named Maximus. Yes, he likes to

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Speaker 1: play on a jungle gym made from fire hoses.

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Speaker 3: Who wouldn't the durability alone.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I won Thank you one. We'll have

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Speaker 2: to like it. We'll take some time for the results

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Speaker 2: to come in. We'll have to have Yeah. I think

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Speaker 2: the pole are officially closed, but it'll take some time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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