Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Welcome back all the smoke, day two.
Speaker 1: On camera. Man.
Speaker 3: That was before we said wrong camera. But Jack has
Speaker 3: been a good two days.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: We gotta we got a king here, sir, one of
Speaker 3: the one of one of the best to ever do it. Man,
Speaker 3: someone I really look up to, you know, I like
Speaker 3: to to, you know, dabble in the in the political space.
Speaker 3: And this is something that someone that I that I
Speaker 3: really look up to and follow because he keeps himself
Speaker 3: educated and on the front line.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Not a not a not a not afraid to apologize
Speaker 3: for mistakes, which is rare. Some motherfuckers will say some
Speaker 3: stuff and then it didn't work and then no matter
Speaker 3: right or wrong. I've seen this brother come out and say, hey,
Speaker 3: I was wrong, and that takes to me a lot
Speaker 3: of courage on.
Speaker 5: My white thing I'm going to do to everybody. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm not wrong about.
Speaker 6: Everybody, and I'm always everybody thought I was talking to
Speaker 6: every woman I was.
Speaker 5: Didn't on you.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show Man, one of the kings of
Speaker 3: comedy d l hugely.
Speaker 2: They appreciate you, my brother, thank you.
Speaker 7: But on that note, think they thought I was apologized
Speaker 7: for everything, everything.
Speaker 5: Most of the ship.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm standing on.
Speaker 5: The joke and that's up to you to decide for me.
Speaker 7: When you were wrong somebody in a way where it
Speaker 7: takes flight like I was, I was pretty the.
Speaker 2: Spread obviously we're talking about.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 7: I was somebody that was complicit because I believe like
Speaker 7: a lot of people believe. And it was only when
Speaker 7: we had a conversation and she asked me to do
Speaker 7: the simplest thing was to look before I started talking,
Speaker 7: and that was that was the impetus of the apology.
Speaker 7: But to me, I care about one. I care about.
Speaker 7: Politics are like a tool. To me, ain't no different
Speaker 7: than a hammer or or a nail or wrench. It is,
Speaker 7: how can because everything you ask for is uh any.
Speaker 7: All the things that we would want accomplished are going
Speaker 7: to happen through the political apparatus. You can't ask for
Speaker 7: some marching. You know you're marching for effect. You're boycotting
Speaker 7: for an effect, and that is to put pressure on
Speaker 7: political fingers to the figures to act.
Speaker 5: So it's not it's not just some folly For me,
Speaker 5: I want.
Speaker 7: What I want is the world that's better for my
Speaker 7: for my people and and to me, whoever has the
Speaker 7: best and I'm not that's not transit, and I think
Speaker 7: it isn't purely transacting. But but for me, the ultimate
Speaker 7: goal is to have the world better look better for
Speaker 7: the people behind me than the people in front of me.
Speaker 5: People in front of me, they haven't already made, they
Speaker 5: they already had.
Speaker 2: Do you have?
Speaker 3: I mean obviously speaking on it and being on the front,
Speaker 3: do you have any aspirations of being a political figure?
Speaker 5: I like pussy and liquor too much? Did you do
Speaker 5: it twice? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I don't, And I think but now that the paradigm
Speaker 7: has moved so much, I mean we got I mean
Speaker 7: this dude, this is the president was in court with
Speaker 7: a whole.
Speaker 5: Testifying against him.
Speaker 7: Now, I'm not against paying the hooker off never, but
Speaker 7: I ain't never paid one to keep their mouth shut.
Speaker 5: No, I ain't never done that. He wrote a check
Speaker 5: for who is that? Stormy? Is that? I? E h? Y?
Speaker 5: Who does like?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 7: I think the barometer is different, But ultimately, as a nation,
Speaker 7: the one thing I was relieved about about the selection
Speaker 7: process is there's no guessing anymore about what this country is.
Speaker 5: It's clear you remember how these you had these dudes
Speaker 5: in your neighborhood.
Speaker 7: They were fuck up all the time, and the mother
Speaker 7: would spend their time praying and when they told when
Speaker 7: she got told they was in jail or dead, she
Speaker 7: would go, at least I know where he is. That
Speaker 7: was a relief to them. At least I know where
Speaker 7: this country is. I ain't got to pretend no more,
Speaker 7: and it knows where it is. So that is like
Speaker 7: when I would suck up in school and they would
Speaker 7: tell my mother everything I did. I had to worry
Speaker 7: no more because now I know, And I think it
Speaker 7: is a freeing feeling to know exactly and nobody gets
Speaker 7: an unvarnished truth where this nation is.
Speaker 3: I think I know you do this because again you're
Speaker 3: explaining why this is in your heart. And he uses
Speaker 3: as a tool to the advancement of our people. But
Speaker 3: what do you think about the people and the people
Speaker 3: who critique athletes or celebrities or comedians or whatever vain
Speaker 3: they want to put us in that speak on stuff
Speaker 3: that literally affects all of us, but for some reason
Speaker 3: we're not allowed to speak right in some people's.
Speaker 7: That went out the window when the game show host
Speaker 7: became the leader of the free world and talk about it.
Speaker 7: That's not I mean, here's the thing, because the greatest
Speaker 7: the only time they ever listen to black people is
Speaker 7: where we're singing, dancing, running or jumping.
Speaker 5: Only time when when do you you ever?
Speaker 7: And that is why for oftentimes when the nation looks
Speaker 7: at distractions, and we are generally at the center of
Speaker 7: that distraction through athletic prowess or through entertainment, the only
Speaker 7: time they're ever gonna hear us. Look at the greatest
Speaker 7: people in the world who moved needles. It wasn't it
Speaker 7: was Muhammad Ali. It was it was athletes, the athletes,
Speaker 7: actors and artists, people with the with the attention on
Speaker 7: them that changed perspectives.
Speaker 5: Motown changed the sixties.
Speaker 7: It wasn't people, you know, marching, It was sounds and
Speaker 7: it was sights, and it was it was people risking
Speaker 7: things and people that they respected from an athletic perspective.
Speaker 7: So it was the Jim Brown's and all those people
Speaker 7: that changed America's mind. And it was because the only
Speaker 7: time they hear us is when we're doing something.
Speaker 3: They like, I don't want this to be a completely
Speaker 3: political conversation.
Speaker 2: Were here where we're at now? So what what what?
Speaker 2: What is your? What do we do?
Speaker 5: Moving forward? We're gonna make it.
Speaker 7: Listen, when the world end, it's gonna be two things
Speaker 7: and have niggas and roaches. For sure, they're gonna be
Speaker 7: left left nothing that they're doing. Have we not seen
Speaker 7: in some kind of iteration facts nothing so as much
Speaker 7: as a and the funny thing, I'm a sixty year old,
Speaker 7: wealthy black man. I wouldn't vote nothing. I ain't gonna
Speaker 7: have no abortion, I ain't gonna get nobody. I would
Speaker 7: say this, Mexican, enjoy your next two weeks for because
Speaker 7: it's gonna be.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be a lot of white janitors on the
Speaker 7: twenty first. I know that white people better learn this word, fabuloso.
Speaker 7: Learn that.
Speaker 3: Kat Williams in twenty twenty four kind of set the
Speaker 3: tone and opened up Pandora's box and we had a crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: We're in a world of exposing or trying to expose
Speaker 3: or you know, stuff we knew about now that people
Speaker 3: were okay with we're not okay with now. That's just
Speaker 3: a lot of kind of cleansing somewhat you want to say,
Speaker 3: due do you expect that tradition to carry on.
Speaker 7: Well, I think now we're in everybody who's in trouble.
Speaker 7: Now that they got what they got Bill Cosby, r
Speaker 7: Kelly and Diddy, they don't fucked around the rest of
Speaker 7: the nineties. If you've ever been on nickd Night, you
Speaker 7: going to jail. But look at who those men were
Speaker 7: raised by. Look at what the influences they saw. We
Speaker 7: used to grow up. We saw a general hospital, had
Speaker 7: Luke and Lord. Luke rape Lord and then married her.
Speaker 7: We had Pebby Lapew. He was a stalker. So we
Speaker 7: were raised by predatory men wrapped up in a boat.
Speaker 7: Those men were raised by them. Those men were mentored
Speaker 7: by men who were raised by worse men, and then
Speaker 7: they thought they could do it.
Speaker 5: But what happened is the time change. What happened is things.
Speaker 7: Look at all those people in trouble, look at what
Speaker 7: their upbringing, I look at their influences. Look who they
Speaker 7: were raised and mentor by. Look at who they were
Speaker 7: influenced by. You can't be shocked at the results.
Speaker 3: Some of these same people. You know you throw Diddy
Speaker 3: in there. They're the accusations allegedly about jay Z that
Speaker 3: we grew.
Speaker 2: Up on in in kind of shaped rure.
Speaker 3: Ways of living, ways of thinking are now under the
Speaker 3: magnifying glass. Why do you think, in your opinion, it's
Speaker 3: only the black heroes that are under fire when you
Speaker 3: look at the Abercamie and Fitch group who did similar
Speaker 3: things to what did he did?
Speaker 4: Did he allege for?
Speaker 2: But we're in and out and they're not even talked about.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 7: I think Jeffrey Epstein would argue differently. I think Roger
Speaker 7: Els would argue, argue differently. I think there are any
Speaker 7: number of white men who've lost their position. I think
Speaker 7: it is a nation shame. Look slavery was always wrong,
Speaker 7: but people accepted it. What they were doing was always wrong.
Speaker 7: It's wrong to take something against somebody's will, but just
Speaker 7: because it's involved on me, it's right. And I think
Speaker 7: that it's a misnomber to say that Jeffrey Estein's in
Speaker 7: jail right now and he's as rich and powerful as
Speaker 7: you come. And I think the comparison of they get
Speaker 7: to do it, and I think Epstein Epstein the kid
Speaker 7: from Harvey Weinstein weinstin. But I think my the thing
Speaker 7: the argument is they get to do it, we should
Speaker 7: do I think that My argument is we should all
Speaker 7: see the same kinds of sentences, we should all be
Speaker 7: the same kind of pariahs in society. But you can't
Speaker 7: tell me how serious you are about a men's conduct
Speaker 7: and then vote for a rapist or some adjudicated rapists.
Speaker 7: You can't tell me that you're serious about that. So
Speaker 7: for that aspect, I understand where a nation who when
Speaker 7: we talk about crime like I heard now there are
Speaker 7: people in these retailers are now raising everything to nine
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty in California, raising some all of the
Speaker 7: isles and nine hundred and fifty one dollars.
Speaker 5: It's make to the felony.
Speaker 7: The number one cause of theft in the retail isn't shoplifters,
Speaker 7: it's it's cashiers. It's people to work in the stock.
Speaker 7: But what they do is they tried us out. Like
Speaker 7: every time they bust one of them them them rings,
Speaker 7: it's always a white lady in Napa or San Diego.
Speaker 7: But we we are the picture of it, right, I think.
Speaker 7: And when we talk about crime, we always talk about
Speaker 7: blue collar crimes, not white collar crimes. Every niggat that
Speaker 7: every robbed anything everywhere, wouldn't add up to one act,
Speaker 7: one Ponzi scheme, one mortgage crisis. But we are constantly
Speaker 7: the kind of the face stay hold up, you can't
Speaker 7: tell me you gonna be tough on crime and then
Speaker 7: you got to court date next month.
Speaker 5: That just don't don't work.
Speaker 3: Any truth that you refuse to do club? Yes, was
Speaker 3: there a reason behind that?
Speaker 7: Because I think that, and I've said this openly, I
Speaker 7: think that the reason that many of those men went
Speaker 7: on that show is because skip shit on him, skip
Speaker 7: shit on Shannon in a way that made most black
Speaker 7: men go, fuck that, We're gonna make sure this brother.
Speaker 7: But then those very men were now all of a
Speaker 7: sudden the subject of ridicule. And then an art form
Speaker 7: I loved was tried it out week after week because
Speaker 7: it was in vogue and Shae Shay is a great platform,
Speaker 7: But it ain't the arbiter of truth. I ain't never
Speaker 7: known a club where they told the truth at.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 7: I ain't never known one club like it ain't. It
Speaker 7: ain't a bench, it ain't a bible. It became a
Speaker 7: thing where it was this arbiter of all that was wrong.
Speaker 7: Now I know everyone. I love Cat. I think Cat
Speaker 7: is an Andrew I think he's one of the most
Speaker 7: talented human beings I've ever seen, saying I love I know,
Speaker 7: said and Skip, and I said, and Steve, I know Earthquake.
Speaker 7: I know all those men, and though I have a
Speaker 7: decidedly different experience with them, but I thought they are
Speaker 7: I thought, in terms of my perspective of club Say
Speaker 7: in its initial iteration, that was it was It's an
Speaker 7: art form. I loved that now was being trotted out
Speaker 7: and splayed out, and I thought it was misrepresented, like
Speaker 7: it would be like somebody telling you how shitty basketball was.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I love this art form.
Speaker 7: It took me from places that I never thought I
Speaker 7: would go to singing sitting in front of kings and queens.
Speaker 7: So I have a different perspective of it, and I
Speaker 7: thought that to me was something that I just That's
Speaker 7: why I draw the line at for me.
Speaker 3: For me, you can do whatever you want. When you
Speaker 3: called me, I came right right away. I was surprised,
Speaker 3: like I hit him, he said, yeah, right away.
Speaker 2: Of people like why you.
Speaker 7: Fuck with black black because I like him, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: fuck with I'm never gonna explain to somebody or justify
Speaker 7: somebody why I do anything.
Speaker 5: I do what I want to do. I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: tell you where you going, Nigga.
Speaker 7: When my father asked my you have rest, your family
Speaker 7: were going Nigga to see a man about adult I.
Speaker 4: Wish I would I was a famous line or a horse.
Speaker 5: And we never got none of it.
Speaker 7: But you to me, to me, there are things that
Speaker 7: I sparked to agree with, like or dislike.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think that what he's doing. He was actually my
Speaker 7: favorite football player. But but I think the iteration of that,
Speaker 7: the way that that came about, and the harm I
Speaker 7: saw it cost people I love in an art form
Speaker 7: I love, made me go, you know what, that's not
Speaker 7: the thing I need to do.
Speaker 3: I know, comedy, like sports, has always been in competitive space,
Speaker 3: but now it's feels like there's more beef.
Speaker 7: But that's not a listen. The Kings of Comedy was
Speaker 7: at one point was the greatest tour that ever existed.
Speaker 7: We used to have a clause.
Speaker 5: It was a thousand dollars for every minute.
Speaker 7: You went off right, because you know, you go to
Speaker 7: these union buildings and they have these hard houts. You know,
Speaker 7: we never raised one thousand dollars because everybody respect everybody
Speaker 7: time was it was, it was that I think He's
Speaker 7: a comedy started was the birthplace of all of these
Speaker 7: things we now see. And it was an exercise of
Speaker 7: black men working in a cohesive way, all loving each other.
Speaker 4: All.
Speaker 5: Now, I am not saying we didn't have problems.
Speaker 7: I'm not under saying people didn't argue, But I am
Speaker 7: saying that it did so much. It was transformative, and
Speaker 7: so much that was good. And to see it reduced
Speaker 7: to this was a little bit too much for me.
Speaker 8: Paint the picture of your upbringing in South Central ended
Speaker 8: up getting here into a gang culture.
Speaker 7: Well, I I don't think, how do you grow up
Speaker 7: one hundred thirty fifth and Bavalane and not and not
Speaker 7: and and.
Speaker 5: You know that's what how do you?
Speaker 7: You're a product of your environment and and and this
Speaker 7: is the caveat. I would say black men are judged
Speaker 7: by the exception, not the rule.
Speaker 2: M M.
Speaker 7: The people that made it as supposed to be the
Speaker 7: most people are going to succumb to the streets, most
Speaker 7: people in that environment. But then you hold the predicate
Speaker 7: is well, l he did it. Why can't you a
Speaker 7: roles can go through concrete that that doesn't mean it's
Speaker 7: fertile ground. Right, most of us made it out and lucky.
Speaker 7: And what what is it while we here? Cause we
Speaker 7: had a skill set, we had a blessing, a extra
Speaker 7: something that they didn't have.
Speaker 5: It wasn't you.
Speaker 7: They could have been just as tall, athletic of you,
Speaker 7: or just as m you know, tenations as you, or
Speaker 7: just as funny as me. Right, we had something they did.
Speaker 7: And now the rest of our communities are judged by
Speaker 7: our gifts, and that, to me is a is a
Speaker 7: standard that is so hypocritical.
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 7: I think every person has the right to live a
Speaker 7: good life as an average human being.
Speaker 5: But we can only live a good life and we're exceptional.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Like I was in I was in a seat one time.
Speaker 5: It was in first class.
Speaker 7: It was me and it was Donald Glover and it
Speaker 7: was a football player and uh, these uh, these white
Speaker 7: people got on the playing they go, you guys must be famous.
Speaker 5: And he got mad.
Speaker 7: I'm like, Nikka, we all famous. What are you talking about?
Speaker 7: What I sit in close?
Speaker 5: First class? I made glow that curtain because I don't
Speaker 5: like all that suffering. Going back, Why does this Margarita
Speaker 5: says so good?
Speaker 7: Because the salt is made from the tears of the
Speaker 7: coach pastors this crash.
Speaker 4: Were you a big showtime Lakers fan?
Speaker 5: I was, of course, James Worthy is my favorite.
Speaker 7: Player, James A. You're Worthy from Gastonia, North Carolina. But
Speaker 7: but I was a Laker fan, which is really weird
Speaker 7: now because now basketball in general is people trying to
Speaker 7: form voltrot m like it is like, but like, I'm
Speaker 7: not a Nugget fan. But I liked that they stayed
Speaker 7: together even though we're losing and finally won. I like
Speaker 7: when Milwaukee did it. I like the Golden State has
Speaker 7: done it. They won in an iteration of everybody had
Speaker 7: been written off for a couple of years.
Speaker 5: They got together, stayed together.
Speaker 7: But I think the NBA, now it's so transactional in
Speaker 7: terms of let's do it now, let's get together and
Speaker 7: we can do it now. The net the Knicks used
Speaker 7: to try to do that. I mean, just give me.
Speaker 7: The Yankees used to try to it never worked. But
Speaker 7: I loved the Lakers. We drafted Worthy, we drafted Magic,
Speaker 7: we got Kareem we drafted Byron Scott, we drafted Derek Fisher,
Speaker 7: we drafted those, we drafted Kobe Bryant, so as as
Speaker 7: I grew up here, when I watched them become with there,
Speaker 7: I remember when he was missing all them shots. And
Speaker 7: he's done something that I very rarely see anybody else do.
Speaker 7: He won without his nucleus. Jordan never won without Pippin
Speaker 7: Bird Ain't never won without those he said he won.
Speaker 7: He won two champions in the row with two people.
Speaker 7: I'm not what people want. I'm not sure at first battle.
Speaker 7: Hall of Famous, I know because Hall of Maaker. What
Speaker 7: was your first ballot?
Speaker 5: Hall of Famer?
Speaker 7: No, so when you watch somebody, When I watched Kareem
Speaker 7: and I watched wil Chamberlain, and I watched Jerry Weston,
Speaker 7: I watched uh h, Kobe Bryant become these things, and
Speaker 7: he nurtured the city. I remember you in here with
Speaker 7: the bat. I mean, I watched all that happen.
Speaker 5: So now.
Speaker 7: In l A, to me, it's Dodgers, and now you're
Speaker 7: gonna get mad. It's Dodgers, USC. I know, I know,
Speaker 7: I know it's Dodgers USC and Lakers.
Speaker 4: Have you ever been to the Forum Club a couple
Speaker 4: of times? In experience?
Speaker 7: No experience, but I watched I was like, God, damn
Speaker 7: I watched, you know what. The reason I'll never worry
Speaker 7: there are things that I knew that were past me,
Speaker 7: Like I ain't never got to worry about my name
Speaker 7: getting called up in a puffy party.
Speaker 4: Never.
Speaker 7: Because there was certain things. I was like, Ah, I'm
Speaker 7: a right used to go to Freaknick. And I saw
Speaker 7: this little brother that I like doing something. I was like,
Speaker 7: I ain't ever coming here again. Like when you know
Speaker 7: how to go home early, that's a gift. That's the
Speaker 7: best ship in the world.
Speaker 2: That's a gift.
Speaker 5: I was in Detroit one time.
Speaker 7: I was hanging out with these cats man, and we
Speaker 7: left at four o'clock, and I was like, man, how
Speaker 7: we should go At six o'clock? We watched the polite
Speaker 7: police roll all them niggas out of I see, I said,
Speaker 7: I told you, you know what, what did Tony June?
Speaker 7: You say everybody gets in trouble. It's three things. It's
Speaker 7: after after twelve, we said, twelve women, liquor.
Speaker 5: And a gun.
Speaker 2: No, nothing good happened after mender.
Speaker 7: Which you say, ain't nothing open, open legs in the hospital.
Speaker 4: All three got me, Uh, why'd you get expelled from school?
Speaker 4: Game banger?
Speaker 7: I got expelled from school because I was always the
Speaker 7: last nigga picked for a game and the first one
Speaker 7: picked for a fight. I was always a and the
Speaker 7: and the and the predicate was the same. I want
Speaker 7: to win, so I decided I'm gonna make it harder
Speaker 7: for you to win.
Speaker 5: When and I didn't win.
Speaker 7: A lot, but I fought a lot, I was like, hey, nigga,
Speaker 7: this ain't all right now. Every time you walk around
Speaker 7: this corner, all right, God, if God wanted me to lose,
Speaker 7: he wouldn't have made so many bricks.
Speaker 5: That's where the god was.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, imagine fighting a dude who will fight you every
Speaker 5: time you see you. That's a lot, even though you
Speaker 5: know you're gonna win.
Speaker 7: You like, nigga, I got my mama here. I just
Speaker 7: I got school clothes on. I just I'm hanging out
Speaker 7: talking to this girl. No, nigga, were gonna do this
Speaker 7: every time. I think that the kids these days get
Speaker 7: to be more whimsical than we were.
Speaker 5: When you grew up.
Speaker 7: The only time you see saw a black man smile
Speaker 7: when he was around men he trusted.
Speaker 5: Never you never saw them smile outside of the environment.
Speaker 7: They smiled in the environment, and they smiled what they
Speaker 7: smiled when they were certain that their smile wouldn't be
Speaker 7: misperceived as weakness. They didn't smile in any other environment
Speaker 7: but the ones, but they knew that they trusted the
Speaker 7: people they were talking. And I think that this and
Speaker 7: that's not a good thing. I'm not saying that this
Speaker 7: a good thing, but I am saying it's a real thing.
Speaker 7: And and younger people these days get to be less serious, and.
Speaker 5: That's a blessing.
Speaker 7: We work hard for them. I want them to be
Speaker 7: able to I don't want them to know what I knew.
Speaker 7: But we were a product of an environment that shaped
Speaker 7: us to be away and then the world changed.
Speaker 4: Who is your comedy inspirations?
Speaker 7: Robin Harris, Dick Gregory, Robin Harris, Robin Harris, Dick, Gregory,
Speaker 7: Red Fox, and Marvin Gay Kids. Marvin Gay painted the
Speaker 7: world that was so exact that my children's children's children
Speaker 7: were able to sing his word and know exactly what
Speaker 7: he saw. And I think that that is artistically what
Speaker 7: I would like to accomplish as a as a as
Speaker 7: a as an artist.
Speaker 8: You know, we all have a welcome to the league
Speaker 8: moment when in sports where we you know, we talk
Speaker 8: about something that you know that was like, okay, I'm here.
Speaker 8: Yeah in comedy, did you ever have like a welcome
Speaker 8: to the big stage, welcome to the big leagues moment?
Speaker 5: Well, it's different.
Speaker 4: You bombed on stage, you walked up.
Speaker 5: Man, listen, listen.
Speaker 7: A cheer and a boom feel exactly the same to
Speaker 7: me now, like your body can't tell the difference between
Speaker 7: the sneeze and orgasm. It doesn't know the difference. It's
Speaker 7: the same thing as the build up, as the climates
Speaker 7: of the resolution, all of it. It's the same thing.
Speaker 7: What somebody thinks of me is none of my business.
Speaker 7: I mean, I get it. I don't like you, I
Speaker 7: don't like me. I get it, But yet I have
Speaker 7: to be with me, so let's see how it goes.
Speaker 7: But I think for me, there is a date certain
Speaker 7: you knew that you athletically could do things that other
Speaker 7: people could do, and it followed you every level. Maybe
Speaker 7: you had to catch up or whatever, but whatever you
Speaker 7: did kept you in the league a long long time
Speaker 7: because you knew how to do a thing. You could score,
Speaker 7: you could defend, you could rebound, you could do whatever
Speaker 7: you needed to do. For me, as an artist, I
Speaker 7: wasn't bright. I wasn't educated, I wasn't area died, but
Speaker 7: I was curious, and so that takes longer.
Speaker 5: It takes longer.
Speaker 7: I ain't never been hot, but I've been warm a
Speaker 7: long time, and that to me is and I feel
Speaker 7: I feel like the man I am now is the
Speaker 7: man the little boy I was always wanted to be.
Speaker 8: So I'm going to break up these two places and something.
Speaker 4: What you think of them?
Speaker 9: Centril Club, that's so la, you know what?
Speaker 7: That was the first time I ever saw, like I
Speaker 7: grew up in this city, like I would see people
Speaker 7: on the prices right going, I'm from La and I
Speaker 7: didn't even like I ain't never seen these niggas there,
Speaker 7: But it was the first time I saw people that
Speaker 7: I knew, you know, like I knew, not that I
Speaker 7: knew I had an individual knowledge of them, but I
Speaker 7: knew the kinds of people they were. With this aspirational
Speaker 7: thing that became like they became the thing that I'd
Speaker 7: always heard people could be. And they looked like me,
Speaker 7: and they drank the same shit I dred and they
Speaker 7: saying the same words I did. So it was the
Speaker 7: first time that Hollywood and one hundred and thirty fifth
Speaker 7: in Avalon weren't the same proximity Maverick Fletch.
Speaker 5: What was the first time.
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 7: I thought, my man's you know, the Mavericks Flats I
Speaker 7: started the first time I ever picked up a microphone
Speaker 7: was Total Experience, which was not right next to the
Speaker 7: Mavick Flats. But Maverick Flats was our g league. It
Speaker 7: was our proving ground. It was our Triple A. And
Speaker 7: you know what, there is something to be said for
Speaker 7: somebody that can go through it. There are some people
Speaker 7: who are immensely talented, but talented being talented it's like
Speaker 7: being mister Hole on Gilligan's Island. It don't mean shit
Speaker 7: unless you could some of it on demand under pressure.
Speaker 7: You could be the baddest motherfucker the world in the
Speaker 7: gym or practice, But it don't mean it unless you
Speaker 7: can make it happen when the lights is on and
Speaker 7: it's in the crucible of batter I don't any goddamn thing.
Speaker 3: We just talked to uh shait Byron Scott about cause
Speaker 3: in in basketball sometimes the lights get too bright in
Speaker 3: LA for people. Is it similar in this c comedy space.
Speaker 7: I yes, I've seen men who were the best first HB.
Speaker 5: I've been eleven specials.
Speaker 7: Uh from Comedy Central to Showtime too, uh you know
Speaker 7: uh to HBO. And I remember the very first HBO
Speaker 7: special I got.
Speaker 5: Uh. I had a manager. He was out of Oakland.
Speaker 7: His name was Tony Spires, and he used to do
Speaker 7: the very of black comedy comedies. And they were having
Speaker 7: these tryouts at the at the Townhouse, which is cause
Speaker 7: it so they were having the tries for TA and
Speaker 7: I didn't get a try out.
Speaker 5: But what he got me was uh uh, I got
Speaker 5: to be the host of the of the audition.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 7: I would bring them people on and do ten minutes
Speaker 7: bringing people do on, do three minutes doing people don't
Speaker 7: do four minutes. By the end of the night, they
Speaker 7: got it cause I had to have it, man I was.
Speaker 7: I mean, I got married at twenty one, I got
Speaker 7: a kids, I got a house. I ain't got no skill, nigga,
Speaker 7: I'm fear way to make it happen that that was
Speaker 7: your break. That was well, see, I've never It's interesting
Speaker 7: because if you told, if you asked me what it
Speaker 7: is I thought happened, I would tell you that I
Speaker 7: woke up s thirty something years later and I'm here,
Speaker 7: So I don't remember a specific thing.
Speaker 5: Like that was the epiphany for me.
Speaker 7: The only thing I can ever remember is the first
Speaker 7: time I picked up a microphone at the Total Experience
Speaker 7: for Robin for rober Fans and Blue Magic. The first
Speaker 7: time I picked up a microphone, I knew what I
Speaker 7: would do for the rest of my life, just like
Speaker 7: the first time you pick up a basketball. The first time,
Speaker 7: I knew it, and I knew I would do it
Speaker 7: whether people wanted me to do it or not. And
Speaker 7: so that has always been if anything, it was the
Speaker 7: it was the this is of how I star.
Speaker 3: We just had said on and he got to talking
Speaker 3: about stories kind of behind the scenes of Kings of Comedy.
Speaker 3: What was that experience, like, how did you become a
Speaker 3: part of that King group? And and and talk to
Speaker 3: us about it?
Speaker 7: Well, I was they were they were in theaters and
Speaker 7: then I, uh, they were in theaters and I had
Speaker 7: I was on the Hugles on ABC, and I'd worked
Speaker 7: with saying Steve forever, uh and Bernie forever, and so
Speaker 7: they wanted to go to arena, so they thought they
Speaker 7: needed So what they did was they said, well in Houston,
Speaker 7: I came on and he said.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: Walter was like, uh, it was everybody got a set price,
Speaker 7: but he's gonna try to give me less. I'm like, no, nigga,
Speaker 7: I'm not no. You were good, you could. I ain't
Speaker 7: gotta do it. So I did it. I crushed in
Speaker 7: the rest's history. But I think I never think. You
Speaker 7: know how you look at your wedding pictures, or you
Speaker 7: look at your wedding albums, or you look at your
Speaker 7: high school yearbook, your trophies, and you would never even
Speaker 7: look at them unless you were walking by and something
Speaker 7: destructure Like I never think about Kings of Comedy.
Speaker 5: Unless they bring it up.
Speaker 7: So when somebody's for me, what happened with the Kings
Speaker 7: of Comedy, it was a tremendous It was one of
Speaker 7: the greatest things I'd ever been a part of. But
Speaker 7: it's also a part of my life. I don't have
Speaker 7: to revisit. I ain't got to keep talk about high school.
Speaker 7: I ain't got to keep talking about the girl that
Speaker 7: got away. I ain't got to because I had it.
Speaker 7: It was great, But that's like trying to survive of
Speaker 7: the foods you already ate. The thing I remember the
Speaker 7: most is how I knew that it was something special.
Speaker 7: But I remember when we shot The Kings of Comedy.
Speaker 7: People don't notice, but I shot a special call going
Speaker 7: Home in August. We shot The Kings of Comedy two
Speaker 7: months later, three months later, So I had to write
Speaker 7: a whole new thirty minutes in a month two months,
Speaker 7: and so that's what I remember. So I remember the
Speaker 7: day before we shot it, I was I didn't have
Speaker 7: any material, so I was talking to Spike Lean that man,
Speaker 7: fuck it, you you could do it. So that was
Speaker 7: it for me. So it was I didn't have a
Speaker 7: All I remember is going around the country doing sets
Speaker 7: so that I can put together at thirty minutes.
Speaker 5: So and then I saw the movie.
Speaker 3: What is the process of putting something like that together? Like,
Speaker 3: we know we want to work on our game. We're
Speaker 3: gonna work on our game. Get out there, get our
Speaker 3: shots up, run, stay in condition, and then play and
Speaker 3: get better. Like, so what do you like? You said,
Speaker 3: that's a short amount of time to put a routine together.
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 7: And that it's different because I'm a grown man, so
Speaker 7: you know, now I have Now I have a broader
Speaker 7: continuum of experiences to draw from. But I think, to me,
Speaker 7: the writing process is easier because all I'm here to
Speaker 7: do is bear witness. I'm a camera. I don't listen.
Speaker 7: I don't make your mind up. I tell you what
Speaker 7: I see. I take the picture, you decide what it is.
Speaker 7: But I think when you're younger, you want to prove
Speaker 7: things to people. When you're older, you know who you are.
Speaker 2: Don't matter.
Speaker 5: I'm a manufacturer. I make red cups.
Speaker 7: They don't sell them everywhere, but what they do sell them,
Speaker 7: I do good, but they don't.
Speaker 5: It ain't none of my business.
Speaker 3: Obviously, Bernie was taken early, but what do you think
Speaker 3: if he would have just got to continue on the
Speaker 3: path he was on, someone who crossed over into Hollywood
Speaker 3: and was doing some other things.
Speaker 7: I think everybody does what they supposed to hear to do,
Speaker 7: and then I hear no more.
Speaker 5: Moses didn't get to go through the premised land.
Speaker 7: I've never seen anybody live past it that they're used
Speaker 7: by day. Nobody is here any longer than they're supposed
Speaker 7: to be, So I don't lamit that I'm glad I
Speaker 7: got to see it.
Speaker 5: I'm glad I got to be here. But when people.
Speaker 7: Everybody is exist, whatever you're looking for is looking for you,
Speaker 7: and everywhere you're supposed to be, you are. What it
Speaker 7: is sad for me is that I always thought I
Speaker 7: would have more time. Like I knew Bernie was sick
Speaker 7: and I knew what was going on. But I thought,
Speaker 7: I'll play this gig and we'll get together. I was
Speaker 7: arrogant enough to believe the time would listen to me.
Speaker 7: That's the only regret I have about it. I thought
Speaker 7: that I would get to laugh with him again. I
Speaker 7: thought same thing with Charlie Murphy. I thought that I
Speaker 7: would get to It's an arrogant thing, that's let's not
Speaker 7: I thought I would do it my father too, So
Speaker 7: it's all these these things that happened. I ain't never
Speaker 7: learned the god damn listen. You're supposed to enjoy what
Speaker 7: you have right there. But the only thing I regret
Speaker 7: about that is not what he would have done, is
Speaker 7: that I wasn't. I believe that we would have more
Speaker 7: time to make some more memories. And that was a foolish,
Speaker 7: arrogant thing to believe.
Speaker 2: You mentioned Charlie Murphy, you guys have a good relationship.
Speaker 5: We had a great relationship.
Speaker 7: He's the best story to Charlie Murphy is by far
Speaker 7: the best. There hasn't been. The greatest storyteller in history
Speaker 7: is Mark Twain. The second greatest teller in history is
Speaker 7: Charlie Murphy. That motherfucker told some story. This is how
Speaker 7: great Charlie Murphy is. I knew that Nigga had cancer
Speaker 7: and I didn't believe he did. I was like everybody's
Speaker 7: stomach get that big, like he was that great. He
Speaker 7: told stories and he was great. His brother is one
Speaker 7: of the greatest entertainers of all time. Charlie had his name,
Speaker 7: and he was older, and he carved out his own way,
Speaker 7: and he bombed at first, and it was rough at first,
Speaker 7: but he became this thing all on his own.
Speaker 5: It wasn't set out for me. He had no silver spoon.
Speaker 5: He was just.
Speaker 7: He didn't truck anybody else. He was Charlie, Charlie Murphy.
Speaker 7: You you say Charlie Murphy in a way that's so
Speaker 7: separate from his brother.
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, that's how great is that? That's respect you know
Speaker 7: nobody else. You don't see nobody else's.
Speaker 3: Kids said, his dad is the bigger. Excuse me, his
Speaker 3: brother's the biggest stars that he was on his own.
Speaker 7: Name me another person who got two names at a
Speaker 7: great two of them you get one and the other
Speaker 7: nigga get a job.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 3: You never really obviously you had the Hugeley show, but
Speaker 3: you never really gravitated towards Hollywood like you could have
Speaker 3: if I think, if you wanted to.
Speaker 2: Was there a reason behind that?
Speaker 7: I think, like I said before, you where you're supposed
Speaker 7: to be. I do what I love. I do what
Speaker 7: I love. I love to get up, say what I
Speaker 7: see and and and take what comes.
Speaker 5: So it's a it's it's.
Speaker 7: A more frame. Now I'm writing a show now that
Speaker 7: we have a deal with a network, and I'm very
Speaker 7: proud to do it. But I only want to do
Speaker 7: what it is. I want to do, sitcom, what kind
Speaker 7: of shows. It's gonna be a sitcom, and I'm very
Speaker 7: proud of because it's a reflection of the life I
Speaker 7: have right now.
Speaker 5: But I never wanted to.
Speaker 7: You know, the only reason I came here because I
Speaker 7: felt like I had something to say. If I didn't
Speaker 7: feel like I had something to say, I wouldn't be it,
Speaker 7: you know. So I never want to do anything because
Speaker 7: I don't feel because just because I want to do
Speaker 7: what I believe I can contribute to will you be
Speaker 7: starring it out? Or just oh yeah, I'm writing it.
Speaker 7: It's a sitcom based on my life and my family.
Speaker 7: Where I'm now.
Speaker 5: I got a gay daughter, an artistic.
Speaker 7: Son, and and an older daughter who had cancer, and
Speaker 7: a wife who who is I've been with for forty years,
Speaker 7: and so I just think uh.
Speaker 5: Is in the creative process.
Speaker 7: I never want to feel like I have to apologize
Speaker 7: for having a perspective, And I think sometimes the entertainment
Speaker 7: apparatus wants to let people off the hook. But I
Speaker 7: think I want this show to be like if the
Speaker 7: nation got a chance to be a fly on the
Speaker 7: wall of family having a conversation.
Speaker 3: Was there any hesitance with that? Really opening that door
Speaker 3: with the family side?
Speaker 7: Well, what they're gonna do. They're gonna tell me I
Speaker 7: can't do that. You better go home and cry and
Speaker 7: the pile of money and shut up. People always think
Speaker 7: that experiences are just so solitary. Me and you could
Speaker 7: have an experience. You could have one perspective of it
Speaker 7: and I could have another. That I don't mean either
Speaker 7: one of us lying, But why should I have to
Speaker 7: have permission from anybody to say what I saw?
Speaker 5: Like, why would I would.
Speaker 7: Why would I have to ask you for permission for having
Speaker 7: a perspective.
Speaker 5: It's divergent from you.
Speaker 4: What does family mean to you? I mean you're talking about.
Speaker 7: Film everything, but not everything in the cliche kind of way, right.
Speaker 7: I think that the family is a unit that you
Speaker 7: grow into like you do anything else. What my family
Speaker 7: means to me now isn't what it meant to me
Speaker 7: when I was much younger. What family means to me
Speaker 7: now because when you're younger, you hustle and try to
Speaker 7: make it happen. You're trying to make sure everybody has
Speaker 7: what they need, but what they need is you. But
Speaker 7: you can't be any dude that tells you can walk
Speaker 7: that perfect line where he is there enough and doing enough.
Speaker 7: If you there, somebody ain't eating if you're not there.
Speaker 7: Somebody said you go. But when you're a man, you
Speaker 7: have to walk those paths. Now that I'm a grandfather,
Speaker 7: I get to be more present and get to what
Speaker 7: I've hoped is that I've instilled enough of my attributes
Speaker 7: that are that are positive that my children have told
Speaker 7: them who I am, and it's set the skids for
Speaker 7: me where they love being around me. But even that,
Speaker 7: all I know is I've done what I knew to
Speaker 7: do and now try to do better. And if they
Speaker 7: accept it, cool. If they don't, I can understand it.
Speaker 3: You have to have gone through a lot in life
Speaker 3: to be at such peace with where you are. When
Speaker 3: did that kind of start coming in.
Speaker 7: And nobody gets peace? You run out of wind? So
Speaker 7: just thinking I can't like I would like to chase
Speaker 7: all these brothers, but I'm tired. But don't you think
Speaker 7: I want to go?
Speaker 5: He did you tell me?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 5: Just settle for tell me what you're gonna do.
Speaker 3: But I remember, I'm talking from a standpoint of just
Speaker 3: like this is me And when were you just comfortable?
Speaker 3: Because it wasn't always like that, Like you said, when
Speaker 3: you're growing in the hustle, although you're very confident in yourself,
Speaker 3: you still kind of hear the noise, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? I asked Kobe this question, like what did
Speaker 3: you hear during your career that hurts you or bother?
Speaker 2: It's like I heard it.
Speaker 3: All and it all hurt I mean, so when did
Speaker 3: you become at such peace with like this is? Like
Speaker 3: you said, I'm a red cup. They don't tell me
Speaker 3: everywhere where they like me, they sell them a lot.
Speaker 5: Peace is what you are forced to accept, Okay.
Speaker 7: Generally, peace is one strong man giving another uh one
Speaker 7: strong position, giving a lesser position an opportunity to pretend
Speaker 7: like they're both getting what they want, Like I'm tired
Speaker 7: of fighting, you tired of dying. It's never it's never equal.
Speaker 7: So my peace comes from the fact that every day
Speaker 7: I'm gonna do what I believe and I'm willing to
Speaker 7: take what comes with that. So it's not it's not
Speaker 7: a guarantee. It's not that I win all the time.
Speaker 7: And I I ain't never been the kind of cat
Speaker 7: to pray that God would get to give me victory.
Speaker 7: I never cause I think that's an arrogant thing to go,
Speaker 7: Please God, out of all these people, I'm your favorite,
Speaker 7: show me victory. I've always prayed to God to give
Speaker 7: me the best accounting I can make up myself that day,
Speaker 7: and that that's a peaceful thing when you know that
Speaker 7: God is gonna give you exactly what the max that
Speaker 7: he can give you, and then you're gonna do the
Speaker 7: best you can do.
Speaker 5: Shuld I What could happen?
Speaker 2: What makes you happy? In twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7: I'm a black man who never known what happened. Who
Speaker 7: I've never known a black man can tell me what
Speaker 7: happeness was?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 7: It's this, It's like a fucking unicorn or big big foot.
Speaker 7: I've never heard a black man say these things out loud,
Speaker 7: happiness and safety. So at sixty years old, sixty years
Speaker 7: old was the first time I've ever asked myself what
Speaker 7: happenedess could be?
Speaker 2: What'd you come up with?
Speaker 5: Nothing yet I'm working on it, baby.
Speaker 2: Three years later. Yeah, no, No, I don't.
Speaker 5: Why would I.
Speaker 7: It's it's such an abstract concept to me, Like people
Speaker 7: talk about happiness like it's the place you live, like
Speaker 7: it's fucking Xander. Do it ain't. Happiness is just being content.
Speaker 7: So I don't. I don't know that I that I'll
Speaker 7: find it, but I know that I'm more open to
Speaker 7: it than I ever was.
Speaker 2: What'd you think about the Drake and Kendrick Beef.
Speaker 5: I think that.
Speaker 7: Drake is an immensely talented artist, uh who had who
Speaker 7: would all always been talented and his patterns' talent had
Speaker 7: always been stoked.
Speaker 5: But Kendrick was an artist.
Speaker 7: I've never seen an artist who was everything he thought
Speaker 7: he was at the moment when nobody thought he could
Speaker 7: be nobody thought he could do what he did, but
Speaker 7: he did. He knew it, and because he knew it,
Speaker 7: he elevated an entire coast. You saw black people and
Speaker 7: bloods and crips and latins who didn't get along, and
Speaker 7: he elevated because he spoke. He said, his metric was
Speaker 7: set to all of us who could see ourselves in him.
Speaker 7: Drake is talented, and he can make me dance, and
Speaker 7: I a vibe to his shit. I never he never
Speaker 7: spoke to me in the place that I felt that motherfucker. Nigga,
Speaker 7: how do you make a disc record and then you
Speaker 7: at the super Bowl? You ain't never seen No, you've
Speaker 7: never seen it. We've never seen He is a brilliant artist,
Speaker 7: A brilliant artist in an ar form this oftentime, sometimes
Speaker 7: underestimated and and never clearly really quite quantified. And I'm
Speaker 7: proud he's from the street something from I'm proud he's
Speaker 7: breathed the same air.
Speaker 5: And I'm proud he sounds and looks like he did.
Speaker 4: He's keeping substance in the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he does, and substance to everybody. I don't know
Speaker 5: what it is. I think draps very appreciate substance. I
Speaker 5: hear you all the time.
Speaker 7: That's why when I post you, I delete my name
Speaker 7: because I want to know I did it.
Speaker 5: I watched this nigga beat destroyed up. So isn't it
Speaker 5: funny that two violent niggas have the best podcast and
Speaker 5: it's called All the Smoke. That's fucking hilarious. Up called
Speaker 5: a restraining order.
Speaker 7: That's the niggas shouldn't have been in the same room.
Speaker 2: But yeah, restraining order twenty five.
Speaker 3: I mean, you said you're working on a pilot right now?
Speaker 4: What are you working on these days?
Speaker 5: I'm working on a pilot.
Speaker 7: With a very talent dude called Axe Bono's for CBS,
Speaker 7: and it's me and where I am right now, and
Speaker 7: it looks really good.
Speaker 5: I'm working writing a book called Charlie's Boy about.
Speaker 7: My father, and I think the worst thing I know
Speaker 7: is that my father never knew what I thought of him.
Speaker 7: And this is mine telling him what I thought of him.
Speaker 2: How long has he been going?
Speaker 5: We start now? We've had to deal for two years.
Speaker 7: But I just didn't think that I had the bandwidth
Speaker 7: to make it happen.
Speaker 2: But Pop still here as he passed.
Speaker 5: I would never talk this shit he was here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, my father had to die to here this shit. Now,
Speaker 7: I've had the best relationship with my father since he's
Speaker 7: been gone.
Speaker 5: He listens and everything.
Speaker 8: So what would you tell somebody like me want to
Speaker 8: get an actor that you already are actor.
Speaker 4: I'm a second person. Tell me that that's what you know?
Speaker 5: What it is?
Speaker 7: Everything you're looking for is looking for you.
Speaker 5: You never see now.
Speaker 7: I think that the greatest actors I've ever seen that
Speaker 7: weren't necessarily trained. But all it is is do I
Speaker 7: believe what you're saying when you're saying it right?
Speaker 5: So first take.
Speaker 7: Things that are in your in your weares, then challenge yourself.
Speaker 7: But you already acting. You're acting like you ain't never
Speaker 7: beat up Detroit. And that's you acting like I can't
Speaker 7: watch you from thirty.
Speaker 9: Right now, that I got that down.
Speaker 5: Reasonable the same man. That's so fun.
Speaker 7: I think that the fact that there's so many bright
Speaker 7: young co mean. I do a thing and it's called
Speaker 7: uh uh Wednesdays at the d L and I do
Speaker 7: it in Pasadena and it's at the Icehouse, and I
Speaker 7: do it every Wednesday and I put on all young
Speaker 7: comics because I see these dudes doing shit, because it's
Speaker 7: it's it's different, like everybody's always talking about. I remember
Speaker 7: Eric Dickison was one of my favorite running backs, right
Speaker 7: and sakh On Broccoli might have broke this record, and
Speaker 7: Eric pointed out that he had, oh that Taquan had
Speaker 7: one more game. But no one's ever seen these kind
Speaker 7: of defenses before. No one's ever seen that. So with
Speaker 7: these kind of athletes and these kind of schemes, So
Speaker 7: everywhere you're supposed to be, you get what you get
Speaker 7: from that moment. And it's ridiculous to pretend like I
Speaker 7: know or can into it what these people's parameters are,
Speaker 7: what their drawbacks are, what are not. But I will
Speaker 7: say the one thing that I notice about the younger
Speaker 7: generation than us, they now want a collaborative or from me.
Speaker 7: And I've watched a lot of them work. It's not
Speaker 7: just me saying some shit. I'm just saying, but I've
Speaker 7: been doing this thing for like five months now, and
Speaker 7: I've seen I don't know, three hundred young comics and
Speaker 7: one other things that I see in them and not everybody,
Speaker 7: But there is more collaboration that's not a judgment or
Speaker 7: an assessment of what that is or a judgment of
Speaker 7: what that is. It's just my assessment. Us more individualistic,
Speaker 7: like I have this thing. A line and tiger are
Speaker 7: more powerful, but a war won't perform in the circus.
Speaker 7: There's a level of individual individualism that we got and
Speaker 7: maybe it was born of the time we were in
Speaker 7: that I don't see exhibited now. I think they think
Speaker 7: being mean and caustic. Not everybody, but being mean and
Speaker 7: caustic is the way.
Speaker 3: It's not even the same type of route though these days.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you look at the path that you know,
Speaker 3: your generation of comics had to take in the ups
Speaker 3: and downs in the grinds, and it's just different now
Speaker 3: because of social media.
Speaker 2: Sure, but then the level of funny or is it
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 7: It was different when people went from radio to TV,
Speaker 7: a TV for the films or so. It's everybody has
Speaker 7: had their Yeah, But what I I think that I
Speaker 7: believe that comedy is so sacracy that everybody should have
Speaker 7: the right to say and do what they want. I
Speaker 7: think it's an unbridled, unvarnished truth. That doesn't mean people
Speaker 7: are going to sapt what you do but it also
Speaker 7: doesn't mean that I'm going to agree with you could
Speaker 7: be a cop and like with cop and and and
Speaker 7: and you know, be in the union. But that doesn't
Speaker 7: mean you can't say that this crosses the line. I
Speaker 7: think that comics can cross the line too. And it
Speaker 7: doesn't mean I don't love the oft phone. I can
Speaker 7: respect your ability and your right to do it, but
Speaker 7: I don't think it's funny to talk about how you could.
Speaker 5: Rape another dude.
Speaker 7: I don't think that's funny, right, not at all. And
Speaker 7: then I don't think it's funny. I think it's worse
Speaker 7: when you pretend like you get to say what you want,
Speaker 7: that it's out of bounds. But when somebody says something
Speaker 7: out of bounds or you you get offended. I don't
Speaker 7: think that's Look, hey man, I said it. You have
Speaker 7: every right to come at me the way you feel
Speaker 7: like you need to.
Speaker 3: It was in the comments I was like, bro, this
Speaker 3: hanging in how you think it's going Exactly what I said.
Speaker 5: You can't talk about raping somebody and that's a violent thing,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 7: And and if that's what you mean, roll with it.
Speaker 7: Two tears of the bucket and fuck it. Let's see
Speaker 7: what happens. Let's see, like I remember this one dude
Speaker 7: tell I'm gonna kick yourss.
Speaker 5: And you know what he did.
Speaker 7: But I would let's see, let's see, let's see. You
Speaker 7: can't beat me before we start. Gonna happen how the
Speaker 7: game won, before we even start the game.
Speaker 3: Let's just see, Oh ship, quick hitters. First thing to
Speaker 3: come to mind.
Speaker 4: Let us know top five comedians of all time?
Speaker 5: To me your opinion, I ain't gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 7: No, but but but I but I know that that.
Speaker 7: There are fifteen people I pay to see.
Speaker 2: Okay, those give me, give me ten of them.
Speaker 7: I would have paid to see Robert Harris. I would
Speaker 7: pay to see Earthquake. I pay to see Steve I
Speaker 7: paid to see said. I pay to see cat I
Speaker 7: pay to see Apps. I pay to see uh uh
Speaker 7: uh Deon Cole. I pay to see I pay to
Speaker 7: see George Lopez. There are people I pay to see.
Speaker 7: They're so funny to me. I don't even call my
Speaker 7: aident asked where it at? I only ask for good tickets.
Speaker 7: I just want to see it. Then I want to
Speaker 7: say I saw it.
Speaker 2: What's it like?
Speaker 7: Chris Rock is daves like, it's all those people I
Speaker 7: know who are doing things. I can tell you this
Speaker 7: the I remember seeing Jamie Fox years ago at the
Speaker 7: Combact Theater and he was so talented. I I stormed
Speaker 7: and I went, it's unfair for a motherfucker to be
Speaker 7: that sad talented. And I was mad at him for years,
Speaker 7: but for being that fucking talented. And then later on,
Speaker 7: given all the things he'd gone through, like we became
Speaker 7: friends and I respect of my life.
Speaker 5: But look at how.
Speaker 7: My him being that talented girded him up, and and
Speaker 7: and and and building all that girded him up for
Speaker 7: the things that would happened to later on in life.
Speaker 7: Like for me, I've never seen say it is the
Speaker 7: moment everybody fucking loves said. So when Kat talked bad
Speaker 7: about it, it made me happy. I was like, oh god, damn,
Speaker 7: thank you. I called said.
Speaker 5: I said, Niggie, I'm glad somebody said someth bad about you. Nigga.
Speaker 5: I'm so happy he said that he said that on
Speaker 5: the show. I'm so happy it made my dick. I'm
Speaker 5: so fucking happy that they said something bad about him.
Speaker 7: I called him rightway, Nigga, I'm glad. I don't feel
Speaker 7: bad for you. Fuck you, I know, goddamn this about time.
Speaker 7: Everybody everybody love you well.
Speaker 5: Nigga, not him. That made me so, He'll tell you right.
Speaker 7: Now, that made me episode. I couldn't stop laughing. I
Speaker 7: was like, oh my god. I didn't believe it because
Speaker 7: it was not my experience with him, but it made
Speaker 7: me happy. I imagine being around somebody love all the time,
Speaker 7: and you always in trouble, and this motherfucker always explained
Speaker 7: to you.
Speaker 5: Finally, hot, hot nigga. I'm so glad of that. I
Speaker 5: can't wait till Shanny Sharp too.
Speaker 4: Come up.
Speaker 3: Five dinner guests, dinner alive, you plus five at the
Speaker 3: dinner table.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: I would want to talk to Winston Churchill. I would
Speaker 7: want to talk to Jesus, but not not the white Jesus.
Speaker 7: I would want to talk uh uh to Mark Twain.
Speaker 7: I would want to talk to Helen Keller.
Speaker 2: Helen, How are you going to talk to Helen Keller
Speaker 2: right exactly? Do you know that?
Speaker 5: This is so funny?
Speaker 7: She was deaf, dumb, blind, but she wrote a book
Speaker 7: that described the world the way it is now. Really, yes,
Speaker 7: I didn't know that Helen Keller, and she also bought
Speaker 7: a key that's to America, and I would want to
Speaker 7: talk to my fifteen year old father.
Speaker 2: Oh young young fella.
Speaker 4: One album you can listen to with no skips.
Speaker 5: Here, my dear Marvin Gay.
Speaker 4: Marvin Gay.
Speaker 5: Remember that was an album he had to give to
Speaker 5: his wife.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 7: It's part of a divorce settlement and he wrote it
Speaker 7: from a van. It was homeless and I think Hawaii.
Speaker 7: And it wasn't just here, bitch. It was like he
Speaker 7: wrote his best work and gave it to her as
Speaker 7: a testament to his love and her.
Speaker 5: Influence on him.
Speaker 7: And I think the most beautiful thing you could ever
Speaker 7: do is to tell people exactly how you feel about them.
Speaker 2: In that moment, well said guilty pleasure.
Speaker 5: I just told you about that. I'm never guilty about
Speaker 5: my pleasure.
Speaker 7: People always think I should be, but I'm not what.
Speaker 4: I said, O, I'm not guilty about it.
Speaker 7: I ain't got one of them. I like what I like.
Speaker 7: I just hope you don't catch mek it it.
Speaker 4: God, damn, I like it. I like mine. I love you.
Speaker 5: I don't want you to see meking and look at
Speaker 5: me like, why does this nigga? Like that.
Speaker 4: I can't go a day without mine.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean. Guilty pleasure.
Speaker 7: It means I think I'm doing something wrong. I'm thinking
Speaker 7: I'm doing something you might think. I don't like to.
Speaker 7: I never want to hurt the woman I love. I
Speaker 7: don't ever want to do nothing to hers. But it
Speaker 7: doesn't mean I don't like it when I do it.
Speaker 7: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Crazy childhood crush.
Speaker 7: It was a girl named Kathin. I ain't gonna say
Speaker 7: her last name. So I was in the seventh grade
Speaker 7: and she was in the ninth. Everybody has these stories.
Speaker 7: So I was in the seventh grade, she was in
Speaker 7: the ninth and I rode the bus when with the
Speaker 7: Perry Junior High and we were in La was the
Speaker 7: unincorporated part of La so they would pick us up.
Speaker 7: And so the bus in La Gino, you might notice,
Speaker 7: had this hierarchy youngest in the front, seventh in the front,
Speaker 7: eighth in the middle, ninth in the back unless you
Speaker 7: were cool seventh grad you know, But I didn't. So
Speaker 7: I remember this song called Gloria by Enchatman would come
Speaker 7: on and every day I would look back at her
Speaker 7: in the mirror in the big old bus mirror and
Speaker 7: the song will come on and I look at her
Speaker 7: and she would smile, and so one day I did,
Speaker 7: and we did this for like the whole the hit was.
Speaker 7: The song was a hit for weeks, so every day
Speaker 7: would come on at the same time. And one day,
Speaker 7: why did I look over at her? And she said
Speaker 7: and said, what you.
Speaker 5: Looking at you? Motherfuck? Stop looking at me, you nap?
Speaker 5: He headed, fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I.
Speaker 5: Felt so small.
Speaker 7: And the bus driver r you know, had that half
Speaker 7: gloves driving a little busy. He goes, it's all right,
Speaker 7: little man. And later on that bus driver married that girl.
Speaker 7: Very yeah girl, but he was only like twenty one,
Speaker 7: twenty two, and maybe two years ago. This girl's I
Speaker 7: got on the plane and uh, these two dudes, young
Speaker 7: cats came on and they were like, you know her mother,
Speaker 7: and they said her name and it was her Wow,
Speaker 7: And I was so glad they were sitting in coach.
Speaker 5: I was so happy.
Speaker 2: Was sitting there.
Speaker 6: If my mom would actor right, you could have been
Speaker 6: up here with me, that motherfucker, I said, Gloria, that's
Speaker 6: a true story.
Speaker 8: If you can see one guest on our show, who
Speaker 8: would it be? But you have to help us get
Speaker 8: your answer.
Speaker 5: On this one guest on your show? Who could it be?
Speaker 4: You have to help us get your answer on the show.
Speaker 7: I'd like to see y'all talk to Bill Maher, I like,
Speaker 7: I would like to see you talk to him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would, I think be a great guest for Yeah,
Speaker 5: I do well.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: We appreciate your time. Thank you man, willingness to come
Speaker 3: spend some time with us.
Speaker 5: Thank you man.
Speaker 2: We got a little gift here, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Why did I know this was coming?
Speaker 2: Coffee table book? You mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope that's pictures? Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: Here we got got you a tore your cigar and I.
Speaker 5: Don't think you talk.
Speaker 3: That's what That's what I knew would be for you.
Speaker 3: And then some tour merch for.
Speaker 7: Us, And then I gotta tell y'all, man, y'all in
Speaker 7: a different vibration. I can't tell you what it's gonna mean,
Speaker 7: but I can tell you what it is right now.
Speaker 7: And I like the way y'all doing it in a
Speaker 7: way that's uniquely y'all. Two niggas that should have been
Speaker 7: arrested that probably shouldn't be within a thousand feet of
Speaker 7: each other. You know, everything you're doing right now will
Speaker 7: get you kicked out the league.
Speaker 6: Everything you easily.
Speaker 5: But I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I remember coming on your show right when I got
Speaker 3: out the NBA, and you had me on a couple
Speaker 3: of times, and I liked and I enjoyed it, and
Speaker 3: you said something like, don't be coming on here, like
Speaker 3: being funny, but like almost kind of giving me a
Speaker 3: compliment that I was kind of doing a good job
Speaker 3: of what I was doing.
Speaker 7: Well, you know what, Like I said, I said, this
Speaker 7: ad nas him everything you're looking for looking for you,
Speaker 7: And I liked that you didn't listen. I'm in radio,
Speaker 7: so it's a different thing. But imagine singing the biggest
Speaker 7: podcast that no one's ever seen and then not trying
Speaker 7: to do that thing.
Speaker 5: That's the great temptation.
Speaker 7: You could go, well, that's how they're doing it, that's
Speaker 7: what he look if you want to go to the moon,
Speaker 7: if if we launched the rocket to the moon, we
Speaker 7: couldn't go where it's going. We couldn't where it's at.
Speaker 7: We got to always going. It's like if you're shooting something,
Speaker 7: you lead it. You're throwing the past, you go, you
Speaker 7: throw it where they're going, where they should be now
Speaker 7: where they at right.
Speaker 3: Fat well, man, thank you, We enjoyed your time today. Man,
Speaker 3: best moving forward. Best luck with that sitcom. If you
Speaker 3: need any extras, he's looking for it.
Speaker 7: And I'm gonna do a scene in Detroit. And what
Speaker 7: I'm gonna do it's have the whole there sing when
Speaker 7: somebody got to beat the entire city up.
Speaker 5: The man.
Speaker 3: You can catch this on the Draft Kings Network and
Speaker 3: all the smoke for actions you too. We'll see y'all
Speaker 3: next week.
Speaker 1: M m hm mm hmmm.