1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. 2 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back all the smoke, day two. 3 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: On camera. Man. 4 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: That was before we said wrong camera. But Jack has 5 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: been a good two days. 6 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 4: Man. 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: We gotta we got a king here, sir, one of 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: the one of one of the best to ever do it. Man, 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: someone I really look up to, you know, I like 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: to to, you know, dabble in the in the political space. 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: And this is something that someone that I that I 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: really look up to and follow because he keeps himself 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: educated and on the front line. 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: Not a not a not a not afraid to apologize 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: for mistakes, which is rare. Some motherfuckers will say some 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: stuff and then it didn't work and then no matter 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: right or wrong. I've seen this brother come out and say, hey, 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: I was wrong, and that takes to me a lot 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: of courage on. 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 5: My white thing I'm going to do to everybody. I'm like, 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 5: I'm not wrong about. 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 6: Everybody, and I'm always everybody thought I was talking to 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 6: every woman I was. 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 5: Didn't on you. 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: Welcome to the show Man, one of the kings of 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: comedy d l hugely. 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: They appreciate you, my brother, thank you. 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 7: But on that note, think they thought I was apologized 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 7: for everything, everything. 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: Most of the ship. 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: I said, I'm standing on. 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 5: The joke and that's up to you to decide for me. 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 7: When you were wrong somebody in a way where it 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 7: takes flight like I was, I was pretty the. 36 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: Spread obviously we're talking about. 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: I was. 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 7: I was somebody that was complicit because I believe like 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 7: a lot of people believe. And it was only when 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 7: we had a conversation and she asked me to do 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 7: the simplest thing was to look before I started talking, 42 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 7: and that was that was the impetus of the apology. 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 7: But to me, I care about one. I care about. 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 7: Politics are like a tool. To me, ain't no different 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 7: than a hammer or or a nail or wrench. It is, 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 7: how can because everything you ask for is uh any. 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 7: All the things that we would want accomplished are going 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 7: to happen through the political apparatus. You can't ask for 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 7: some marching. You know you're marching for effect. You're boycotting 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 7: for an effect, and that is to put pressure on 51 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 7: political fingers to the figures to act. 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 5: So it's not it's not just some folly For me, 53 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 5: I want. 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 7: What I want is the world that's better for my 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 7: for my people and and to me, whoever has the 56 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 7: best and I'm not that's not transit, and I think 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 7: it isn't purely transacting. But but for me, the ultimate 58 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 7: goal is to have the world better look better for 59 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 7: the people behind me than the people in front of me. 60 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 5: People in front of me, they haven't already made, they 61 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 5: they already had. 62 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Do you have? 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: I mean obviously speaking on it and being on the front, 64 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: do you have any aspirations of being a political figure? 65 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 5: I like pussy and liquor too much? Did you do 66 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 5: it twice? Yeah? 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 7: I don't, And I think but now that the paradigm 68 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 7: has moved so much, I mean we got I mean 69 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 7: this dude, this is the president was in court with 70 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 7: a whole. 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 5: Testifying against him. 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 7: Now, I'm not against paying the hooker off never, but 73 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 7: I ain't never paid one to keep their mouth shut. 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 5: No, I ain't never done that. He wrote a check 75 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 5: for who is that? Stormy? Is that? I? E h? Y? 76 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 5: Who does like? 77 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: Like? 78 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: So? 79 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 7: I think the barometer is different, But ultimately, as a nation, 80 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 7: the one thing I was relieved about about the selection 81 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 7: process is there's no guessing anymore about what this country is. 82 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 5: It's clear you remember how these you had these dudes 83 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 5: in your neighborhood. 84 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 7: They were fuck up all the time, and the mother 85 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 7: would spend their time praying and when they told when 86 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 7: she got told they was in jail or dead, she 87 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 7: would go, at least I know where he is. That 88 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 7: was a relief to them. At least I know where 89 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 7: this country is. I ain't got to pretend no more, 90 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 7: and it knows where it is. So that is like 91 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 7: when I would suck up in school and they would 92 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 7: tell my mother everything I did. I had to worry 93 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 7: no more because now I know, And I think it 94 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 7: is a freeing feeling to know exactly and nobody gets 95 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 7: an unvarnished truth where this nation is. 96 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: I think I know you do this because again you're 97 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: explaining why this is in your heart. And he uses 98 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: as a tool to the advancement of our people. But 99 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: what do you think about the people and the people 100 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: who critique athletes or celebrities or comedians or whatever vain 101 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: they want to put us in that speak on stuff 102 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 3: that literally affects all of us, but for some reason 103 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: we're not allowed to speak right in some people's. 104 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 7: That went out the window when the game show host 105 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 7: became the leader of the free world and talk about it. 106 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 7: That's not I mean, here's the thing, because the greatest 107 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 7: the only time they ever listen to black people is 108 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 7: where we're singing, dancing, running or jumping. 109 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 5: Only time when when do you you ever? 110 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 7: And that is why for oftentimes when the nation looks 111 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 7: at distractions, and we are generally at the center of 112 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 7: that distraction through athletic prowess or through entertainment, the only 113 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 7: time they're ever gonna hear us. Look at the greatest 114 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 7: people in the world who moved needles. It wasn't it 115 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 7: was Muhammad Ali. It was it was athletes, the athletes, 116 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 7: actors and artists, people with the with the attention on 117 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 7: them that changed perspectives. 118 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 5: Motown changed the sixties. 119 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 7: It wasn't people, you know, marching, It was sounds and 120 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 7: it was sights, and it was it was people risking 121 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 7: things and people that they respected from an athletic perspective. 122 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 7: So it was the Jim Brown's and all those people 123 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 7: that changed America's mind. And it was because the only 124 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 7: time they hear us is when we're doing something. 125 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: They like, I don't want this to be a completely 126 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: political conversation. 127 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: Were here where we're at now? So what what what? 128 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: What is your? What do we do? 129 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 5: Moving forward? We're gonna make it. 130 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 7: Listen, when the world end, it's gonna be two things 131 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 7: and have niggas and roaches. For sure, they're gonna be 132 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 7: left left nothing that they're doing. Have we not seen 133 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 7: in some kind of iteration facts nothing so as much 134 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 7: as a and the funny thing, I'm a sixty year old, 135 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 7: wealthy black man. I wouldn't vote nothing. I ain't gonna 136 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 7: have no abortion, I ain't gonna get nobody. I would 137 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 7: say this, Mexican, enjoy your next two weeks for because 138 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 7: it's gonna be. 139 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: It's gonna be. 140 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 7: It's gonna be a lot of white janitors on the 141 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 7: twenty first. I know that white people better learn this word, fabuloso. 142 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 7: Learn that. 143 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 3: Kat Williams in twenty twenty four kind of set the 144 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 3: tone and opened up Pandora's box and we had a crazy, crazy. 145 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four. 146 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: We're in a world of exposing or trying to expose 147 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: or you know, stuff we knew about now that people 148 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 3: were okay with we're not okay with now. That's just 149 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: a lot of kind of cleansing somewhat you want to say, 150 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: due do you expect that tradition to carry on. 151 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 7: Well, I think now we're in everybody who's in trouble. 152 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 7: Now that they got what they got Bill Cosby, r 153 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 7: Kelly and Diddy, they don't fucked around the rest of 154 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 7: the nineties. If you've ever been on nickd Night, you 155 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 7: going to jail. But look at who those men were 156 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 7: raised by. Look at what the influences they saw. We 157 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 7: used to grow up. We saw a general hospital, had 158 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 7: Luke and Lord. Luke rape Lord and then married her. 159 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 7: We had Pebby Lapew. He was a stalker. So we 160 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 7: were raised by predatory men wrapped up in a boat. 161 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 7: Those men were raised by them. Those men were mentored 162 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 7: by men who were raised by worse men, and then 163 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 7: they thought they could do it. 164 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 5: But what happened is the time change. What happened is things. 165 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 7: Look at all those people in trouble, look at what 166 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 7: their upbringing, I look at their influences. Look who they 167 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 7: were raised and mentor by. Look at who they were 168 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 7: influenced by. You can't be shocked at the results. 169 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 3: Some of these same people. You know you throw Diddy 170 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: in there. They're the accusations allegedly about jay Z that 171 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: we grew. 172 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Up on in in kind of shaped rure. 173 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: Ways of living, ways of thinking are now under the 174 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: magnifying glass. Why do you think, in your opinion, it's 175 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: only the black heroes that are under fire when you 176 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: look at the Abercamie and Fitch group who did similar 177 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: things to what did he did? 178 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: Did he allege for? 179 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: But we're in and out and they're not even talked about. 180 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: Well. 181 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 7: I think Jeffrey Epstein would argue differently. I think Roger 182 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 7: Els would argue, argue differently. I think there are any 183 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 7: number of white men who've lost their position. I think 184 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 7: it is a nation shame. Look slavery was always wrong, 185 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 7: but people accepted it. What they were doing was always wrong. 186 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 7: It's wrong to take something against somebody's will, but just 187 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 7: because it's involved on me, it's right. And I think 188 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,239 Speaker 7: that it's a misnomber to say that Jeffrey Estein's in 189 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 7: jail right now and he's as rich and powerful as 190 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 7: you come. And I think the comparison of they get 191 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 7: to do it, and I think Epstein Epstein the kid 192 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 7: from Harvey Weinstein weinstin. But I think my the thing 193 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 7: the argument is they get to do it, we should 194 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 7: do I think that My argument is we should all 195 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 7: see the same kinds of sentences, we should all be 196 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 7: the same kind of pariahs in society. But you can't 197 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 7: tell me how serious you are about a men's conduct 198 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 7: and then vote for a rapist or some adjudicated rapists. 199 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 7: You can't tell me that you're serious about that. So 200 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 7: for that aspect, I understand where a nation who when 201 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 7: we talk about crime like I heard now there are 202 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 7: people in these retailers are now raising everything to nine 203 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty in California, raising some all of the 204 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 7: isles and nine hundred and fifty one dollars. 205 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 5: It's make to the felony. 206 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 7: The number one cause of theft in the retail isn't shoplifters, 207 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 7: it's it's cashiers. It's people to work in the stock. 208 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 7: But what they do is they tried us out. Like 209 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 7: every time they bust one of them them them rings, 210 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 7: it's always a white lady in Napa or San Diego. 211 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 7: But we we are the picture of it, right, I think. 212 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 7: And when we talk about crime, we always talk about 213 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 7: blue collar crimes, not white collar crimes. Every niggat that 214 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 7: every robbed anything everywhere, wouldn't add up to one act, 215 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 7: one Ponzi scheme, one mortgage crisis. But we are constantly 216 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 7: the kind of the face stay hold up, you can't 217 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 7: tell me you gonna be tough on crime and then 218 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 7: you got to court date next month. 219 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: That just don't don't work. 220 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 3: Any truth that you refuse to do club? Yes, was 221 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: there a reason behind that? 222 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 7: Because I think that, and I've said this openly, I 223 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 7: think that the reason that many of those men went 224 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 7: on that show is because skip shit on him, skip 225 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 7: shit on Shannon in a way that made most black 226 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 7: men go, fuck that, We're gonna make sure this brother. 227 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 7: But then those very men were now all of a 228 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 7: sudden the subject of ridicule. And then an art form 229 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 7: I loved was tried it out week after week because 230 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 7: it was in vogue and Shae Shay is a great platform, 231 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 7: But it ain't the arbiter of truth. I ain't never 232 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 7: known a club where they told the truth at. 233 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: Like. 234 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 7: I ain't never known one club like it ain't. It 235 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 7: ain't a bench, it ain't a bible. It became a 236 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 7: thing where it was this arbiter of all that was wrong. 237 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: Now I know everyone. I love Cat. I think Cat 238 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 7: is an Andrew I think he's one of the most 239 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 7: talented human beings I've ever seen, saying I love I know, 240 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 7: said and Skip, and I said, and Steve, I know Earthquake. 241 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 7: I know all those men, and though I have a 242 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 7: decidedly different experience with them, but I thought they are 243 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 7: I thought, in terms of my perspective of club Say 244 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 7: in its initial iteration, that was it was It's an 245 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 7: art form. I loved that now was being trotted out 246 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 7: and splayed out, and I thought it was misrepresented, like 247 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 7: it would be like somebody telling you how shitty basketball was. 248 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: You know. 249 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 5: I love this art form. 250 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 7: It took me from places that I never thought I 251 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 7: would go to singing sitting in front of kings and queens. 252 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 7: So I have a different perspective of it, and I 253 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 7: thought that to me was something that I just That's 254 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 7: why I draw the line at for me. 255 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: For me, you can do whatever you want. When you 256 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: called me, I came right right away. I was surprised, 257 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: like I hit him, he said, yeah, right away. 258 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: Of people like why you. 259 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 7: Fuck with black black because I like him, I'm gonna 260 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 7: fuck with I'm never gonna explain to somebody or justify 261 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 7: somebody why I do anything. 262 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 5: I do what I want to do. I'm not gonna 263 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: tell you where you going, Nigga. 264 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 7: When my father asked my you have rest, your family 265 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 7: were going Nigga to see a man about adult I. 266 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: Wish I would I was a famous line or a horse. 267 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 5: And we never got none of it. 268 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 7: But you to me, to me, there are things that 269 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 7: I sparked to agree with, like or dislike. 270 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 271 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 7: I think that what he's doing. He was actually my 272 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 7: favorite football player. But but I think the iteration of that, 273 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 7: the way that that came about, and the harm I 274 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 7: saw it cost people I love in an art form 275 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 7: I love, made me go, you know what, that's not 276 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 7: the thing I need to do. 277 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: I know, comedy, like sports, has always been in competitive space, 278 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: but now it's feels like there's more beef. 279 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 7: But that's not a listen. The Kings of Comedy was 280 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 7: at one point was the greatest tour that ever existed. 281 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 7: We used to have a clause. 282 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 5: It was a thousand dollars for every minute. 283 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 7: You went off right, because you know, you go to 284 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 7: these union buildings and they have these hard houts. You know, 285 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 7: we never raised one thousand dollars because everybody respect everybody 286 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 7: time was it was, it was that I think He's 287 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 7: a comedy started was the birthplace of all of these 288 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 7: things we now see. And it was an exercise of 289 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 7: black men working in a cohesive way, all loving each other. 290 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 4: All. 291 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 5: Now, I am not saying we didn't have problems. 292 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 7: I'm not under saying people didn't argue, But I am 293 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 7: saying that it did so much. It was transformative, and 294 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 7: so much that was good. And to see it reduced 295 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 7: to this was a little bit too much for me. 296 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 8: Paint the picture of your upbringing in South Central ended 297 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 8: up getting here into a gang culture. 298 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 7: Well, I I don't think, how do you grow up 299 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 7: one hundred thirty fifth and Bavalane and not and not 300 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 7: and and. 301 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 5: You know that's what how do you? 302 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 7: You're a product of your environment and and and this 303 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 7: is the caveat. I would say black men are judged 304 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 7: by the exception, not the rule. 305 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: M M. 306 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 7: The people that made it as supposed to be the 307 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 7: most people are going to succumb to the streets, most 308 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 7: people in that environment. But then you hold the predicate 309 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 7: is well, l he did it. Why can't you a 310 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 7: roles can go through concrete that that doesn't mean it's 311 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 7: fertile ground. Right, most of us made it out and lucky. 312 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 7: And what what is it while we here? Cause we 313 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 7: had a skill set, we had a blessing, a extra 314 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 7: something that they didn't have. 315 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 5: It wasn't you. 316 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 7: They could have been just as tall, athletic of you, 317 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 7: or just as m you know, tenations as you, or 318 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 7: just as funny as me. Right, we had something they did. 319 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 7: And now the rest of our communities are judged by 320 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 7: our gifts, and that, to me is a is a 321 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 7: standard that is so hypocritical. 322 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 5: I can't. 323 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 7: I think every person has the right to live a 324 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 7: good life as an average human being. 325 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 5: But we can only live a good life and we're exceptional. 326 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 327 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 5: Like I was in I was in a seat one time. 328 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: It was in first class. 329 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 7: It was me and it was Donald Glover and it 330 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 7: was a football player and uh, these uh, these white 331 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 7: people got on the playing they go, you guys must be famous. 332 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 5: And he got mad. 333 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 7: I'm like, Nikka, we all famous. What are you talking about? 334 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 7: What I sit in close? 335 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 5: First class? I made glow that curtain because I don't 336 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 5: like all that suffering. Going back, Why does this Margarita 337 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 5: says so good? 338 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 7: Because the salt is made from the tears of the 339 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 7: coach pastors this crash. 340 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: Were you a big showtime Lakers fan? 341 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: I was, of course, James Worthy is my favorite. 342 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 7: Player, James A. You're Worthy from Gastonia, North Carolina. But 343 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 7: but I was a Laker fan, which is really weird 344 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 7: now because now basketball in general is people trying to 345 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 7: form voltrot m like it is like, but like, I'm 346 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 7: not a Nugget fan. But I liked that they stayed 347 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 7: together even though we're losing and finally won. I like 348 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 7: when Milwaukee did it. I like the Golden State has 349 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 7: done it. They won in an iteration of everybody had 350 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 7: been written off for a couple of years. 351 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 5: They got together, stayed together. 352 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 7: But I think the NBA, now it's so transactional in 353 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 7: terms of let's do it now, let's get together and 354 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 7: we can do it now. The net the Knicks used 355 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 7: to try to do that. I mean, just give me. 356 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 7: The Yankees used to try to it never worked. But 357 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 7: I loved the Lakers. We drafted Worthy, we drafted Magic, 358 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 7: we got Kareem we drafted Byron Scott, we drafted Derek Fisher, 359 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 7: we drafted those, we drafted Kobe Bryant, so as as 360 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 7: I grew up here, when I watched them become with there, 361 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 7: I remember when he was missing all them shots. And 362 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 7: he's done something that I very rarely see anybody else do. 363 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 7: He won without his nucleus. Jordan never won without Pippin 364 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 7: Bird Ain't never won without those he said he won. 365 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 7: He won two champions in the row with two people. 366 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 7: I'm not what people want. I'm not sure at first battle. 367 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 7: Hall of Famous, I know because Hall of Maaker. What 368 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 7: was your first ballot? 369 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 5: Hall of Famer? 370 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 7: No, so when you watch somebody, When I watched Kareem 371 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 7: and I watched wil Chamberlain, and I watched Jerry Weston, 372 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 7: I watched uh h, Kobe Bryant become these things, and 373 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 7: he nurtured the city. I remember you in here with 374 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 7: the bat. I mean, I watched all that happen. 375 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: So now. 376 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 7: In l A, to me, it's Dodgers, and now you're 377 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 7: gonna get mad. It's Dodgers, USC. I know, I know, 378 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 7: I know it's Dodgers USC and Lakers. 379 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 4: Have you ever been to the Forum Club a couple 380 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 4: of times? In experience? 381 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 7: No experience, but I watched I was like, God, damn 382 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 7: I watched, you know what. The reason I'll never worry 383 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 7: there are things that I knew that were past me, 384 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 7: Like I ain't never got to worry about my name 385 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 7: getting called up in a puffy party. 386 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 4: Never. 387 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 7: Because there was certain things. I was like, Ah, I'm 388 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 7: a right used to go to Freaknick. And I saw 389 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 7: this little brother that I like doing something. I was like, 390 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 7: I ain't ever coming here again. Like when you know 391 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 7: how to go home early, that's a gift. That's the 392 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 7: best ship in the world. 393 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: That's a gift. 394 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 5: I was in Detroit one time. 395 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 7: I was hanging out with these cats man, and we 396 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 7: left at four o'clock, and I was like, man, how 397 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 7: we should go At six o'clock? We watched the polite 398 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 7: police roll all them niggas out of I see, I said, 399 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 7: I told you, you know what, what did Tony June? 400 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 7: You say everybody gets in trouble. It's three things. It's 401 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 7: after after twelve, we said, twelve women, liquor. 402 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 5: And a gun. 403 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: No, nothing good happened after mender. 404 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 7: Which you say, ain't nothing open, open legs in the hospital. 405 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 4: All three got me, Uh, why'd you get expelled from school? 406 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: Game banger? 407 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 7: I got expelled from school because I was always the 408 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 7: last nigga picked for a game and the first one 409 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 7: picked for a fight. I was always a and the 410 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 7: and the and the predicate was the same. I want 411 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 7: to win, so I decided I'm gonna make it harder 412 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 7: for you to win. 413 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 5: When and I didn't win. 414 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 7: A lot, but I fought a lot, I was like, hey, nigga, 415 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 7: this ain't all right now. Every time you walk around 416 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 7: this corner, all right, God, if God wanted me to lose, 417 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 7: he wouldn't have made so many bricks. 418 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 5: That's where the god was. 419 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Man. 420 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, imagine fighting a dude who will fight you every 421 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 5: time you see you. That's a lot, even though you 422 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 5: know you're gonna win. 423 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 7: You like, nigga, I got my mama here. I just 424 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 7: I got school clothes on. I just I'm hanging out 425 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 7: talking to this girl. No, nigga, were gonna do this 426 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 7: every time. I think that the kids these days get 427 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 7: to be more whimsical than we were. 428 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 5: When you grew up. 429 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 7: The only time you see saw a black man smile 430 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 7: when he was around men he trusted. 431 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 5: Never you never saw them smile outside of the environment. 432 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 7: They smiled in the environment, and they smiled what they 433 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 7: smiled when they were certain that their smile wouldn't be 434 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 7: misperceived as weakness. They didn't smile in any other environment 435 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 7: but the ones, but they knew that they trusted the 436 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 7: people they were talking. And I think that this and 437 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 7: that's not a good thing. I'm not saying that this 438 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 7: a good thing, but I am saying it's a real thing. 439 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 7: And and younger people these days get to be less serious, and. 440 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 5: That's a blessing. 441 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 7: We work hard for them. I want them to be 442 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 7: able to I don't want them to know what I knew. 443 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 7: But we were a product of an environment that shaped 444 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 7: us to be away and then the world changed. 445 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: Who is your comedy inspirations? 446 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 7: Robin Harris, Dick Gregory, Robin Harris, Robin Harris, Dick, Gregory, 447 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 7: Red Fox, and Marvin Gay Kids. Marvin Gay painted the 448 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 7: world that was so exact that my children's children's children 449 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 7: were able to sing his word and know exactly what 450 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 7: he saw. And I think that that is artistically what 451 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 7: I would like to accomplish as a as a as 452 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 7: a as an artist. 453 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 8: You know, we all have a welcome to the league 454 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 8: moment when in sports where we you know, we talk 455 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 8: about something that you know that was like, okay, I'm here. 456 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 8: Yeah in comedy, did you ever have like a welcome 457 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 8: to the big stage, welcome to the big leagues moment? 458 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: Well, it's different. 459 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 4: You bombed on stage, you walked up. 460 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: Man, listen, listen. 461 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 7: A cheer and a boom feel exactly the same to 462 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 7: me now, like your body can't tell the difference between 463 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 7: the sneeze and orgasm. It doesn't know the difference. It's 464 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 7: the same thing as the build up, as the climates 465 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 7: of the resolution, all of it. It's the same thing. 466 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 7: What somebody thinks of me is none of my business. 467 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 7: I mean, I get it. I don't like you, I 468 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 7: don't like me. I get it, But yet I have 469 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 7: to be with me, so let's see how it goes. 470 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 7: But I think for me, there is a date certain 471 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 7: you knew that you athletically could do things that other 472 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 7: people could do, and it followed you every level. Maybe 473 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 7: you had to catch up or whatever, but whatever you 474 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 7: did kept you in the league a long long time 475 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 7: because you knew how to do a thing. You could score, 476 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 7: you could defend, you could rebound, you could do whatever 477 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 7: you needed to do. For me, as an artist, I 478 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 7: wasn't bright. I wasn't educated, I wasn't area died, but 479 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 7: I was curious, and so that takes longer. 480 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 5: It takes longer. 481 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 7: I ain't never been hot, but I've been warm a 482 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 7: long time, and that to me is and I feel 483 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 7: I feel like the man I am now is the 484 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 7: man the little boy I was always wanted to be. 485 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 8: So I'm going to break up these two places and something. 486 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 4: What you think of them? 487 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 9: Centril Club, that's so la, you know what? 488 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 7: That was the first time I ever saw, like I 489 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 7: grew up in this city, like I would see people 490 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 7: on the prices right going, I'm from La and I 491 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 7: didn't even like I ain't never seen these niggas there, 492 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 7: But it was the first time I saw people that 493 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 7: I knew, you know, like I knew, not that I 494 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 7: knew I had an individual knowledge of them, but I 495 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 7: knew the kinds of people they were. With this aspirational 496 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 7: thing that became like they became the thing that I'd 497 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 7: always heard people could be. And they looked like me, 498 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 7: and they drank the same shit I dred and they 499 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 7: saying the same words I did. So it was the 500 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 7: first time that Hollywood and one hundred and thirty fifth 501 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 7: in Avalon weren't the same proximity Maverick Fletch. 502 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 5: What was the first time. 503 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: It was? 504 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 7: I thought, my man's you know, the Mavericks Flats I 505 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 7: started the first time I ever picked up a microphone 506 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 7: was Total Experience, which was not right next to the 507 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 7: Mavick Flats. But Maverick Flats was our g league. It 508 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 7: was our proving ground. It was our Triple A. And 509 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 7: you know what, there is something to be said for 510 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 7: somebody that can go through it. There are some people 511 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 7: who are immensely talented, but talented being talented it's like 512 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 7: being mister Hole on Gilligan's Island. It don't mean shit 513 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 7: unless you could some of it on demand under pressure. 514 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 7: You could be the baddest motherfucker the world in the 515 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 7: gym or practice, But it don't mean it unless you 516 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 7: can make it happen when the lights is on and 517 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 7: it's in the crucible of batter I don't any goddamn thing. 518 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 3: We just talked to uh shait Byron Scott about cause 519 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: in in basketball sometimes the lights get too bright in 520 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: LA for people. Is it similar in this c comedy space. 521 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 7: I yes, I've seen men who were the best first HB. 522 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 5: I've been eleven specials. 523 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 7: Uh from Comedy Central to Showtime too, uh you know 524 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 7: uh to HBO. And I remember the very first HBO 525 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 7: special I got. 526 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 5: Uh. I had a manager. He was out of Oakland. 527 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 7: His name was Tony Spires, and he used to do 528 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 7: the very of black comedy comedies. And they were having 529 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 7: these tryouts at the at the Townhouse, which is cause 530 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 7: it so they were having the tries for TA and 531 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: I didn't get a try out. 532 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 5: But what he got me was uh uh, I got 533 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: to be the host of the of the audition. 534 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 4: Man. 535 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 7: I would bring them people on and do ten minutes 536 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 7: bringing people do on, do three minutes doing people don't 537 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 7: do four minutes. By the end of the night, they 538 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 7: got it cause I had to have it, man I was. 539 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 7: I mean, I got married at twenty one, I got 540 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 7: a kids, I got a house. I ain't got no skill, nigga, 541 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 7: I'm fear way to make it happen that that was 542 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 7: your break. That was well, see, I've never It's interesting 543 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 7: because if you told, if you asked me what it 544 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 7: is I thought happened, I would tell you that I 545 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 7: woke up s thirty something years later and I'm here, 546 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 7: So I don't remember a specific thing. 547 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 5: Like that was the epiphany for me. 548 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 7: The only thing I can ever remember is the first 549 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 7: time I picked up a microphone at the Total Experience 550 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 7: for Robin for rober Fans and Blue Magic. The first 551 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 7: time I picked up a microphone, I knew what I 552 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 7: would do for the rest of my life, just like 553 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 7: the first time you pick up a basketball. The first time, 554 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 7: I knew it, and I knew I would do it 555 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 7: whether people wanted me to do it or not. And 556 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 7: so that has always been if anything, it was the 557 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 7: it was the this is of how I star. 558 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: We just had said on and he got to talking 559 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 3: about stories kind of behind the scenes of Kings of Comedy. 560 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: What was that experience, like, how did you become a 561 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: part of that King group? And and and talk to 562 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: us about it? 563 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 7: Well, I was they were they were in theaters and 564 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 7: then I, uh, they were in theaters and I had 565 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 7: I was on the Hugles on ABC, and I'd worked 566 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 7: with saying Steve forever, uh and Bernie forever, and so 567 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 7: they wanted to go to arena, so they thought they 568 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 7: needed So what they did was they said, well in Houston, 569 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 7: I came on and he said. 570 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 5: Uh. 571 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 7: Walter was like, uh, it was everybody got a set price, 572 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 7: but he's gonna try to give me less. I'm like, no, nigga, 573 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 7: I'm not no. You were good, you could. I ain't 574 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 7: gotta do it. So I did it. I crushed in 575 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 7: the rest's history. But I think I never think. You 576 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 7: know how you look at your wedding pictures, or you 577 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 7: look at your wedding albums, or you look at your 578 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 7: high school yearbook, your trophies, and you would never even 579 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 7: look at them unless you were walking by and something 580 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 7: destructure Like I never think about Kings of Comedy. 581 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 5: Unless they bring it up. 582 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 7: So when somebody's for me, what happened with the Kings 583 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 7: of Comedy, it was a tremendous It was one of 584 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 7: the greatest things I'd ever been a part of. But 585 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 7: it's also a part of my life. I don't have 586 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 7: to revisit. I ain't got to keep talk about high school. 587 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 7: I ain't got to keep talking about the girl that 588 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 7: got away. I ain't got to because I had it. 589 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 7: It was great, But that's like trying to survive of 590 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 7: the foods you already ate. The thing I remember the 591 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 7: most is how I knew that it was something special. 592 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 7: But I remember when we shot The Kings of Comedy. 593 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 7: People don't notice, but I shot a special call going 594 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 7: Home in August. We shot The Kings of Comedy two 595 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 7: months later, three months later, So I had to write 596 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 7: a whole new thirty minutes in a month two months, 597 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 7: and so that's what I remember. So I remember the 598 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 7: day before we shot it, I was I didn't have 599 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 7: any material, so I was talking to Spike Lean that man, 600 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 7: fuck it, you you could do it. So that was 601 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 7: it for me. So it was I didn't have a 602 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 7: All I remember is going around the country doing sets 603 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 7: so that I can put together at thirty minutes. 604 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 5: So and then I saw the movie. 605 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 3: What is the process of putting something like that together? Like, 606 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: we know we want to work on our game. We're 607 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: gonna work on our game. Get out there, get our 608 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: shots up, run, stay in condition, and then play and 609 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 3: get better. Like, so what do you like? You said, 610 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: that's a short amount of time to put a routine together. 611 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 4: What is it? 612 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 7: And that it's different because I'm a grown man, so 613 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 7: you know, now I have Now I have a broader 614 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 7: continuum of experiences to draw from. But I think, to me, 615 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 7: the writing process is easier because all I'm here to 616 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 7: do is bear witness. I'm a camera. I don't listen. 617 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 7: I don't make your mind up. I tell you what 618 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 7: I see. I take the picture, you decide what it is. 619 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 7: But I think when you're younger, you want to prove 620 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 7: things to people. When you're older, you know who you are. 621 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: Don't matter. 622 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 5: I'm a manufacturer. I make red cups. 623 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 7: They don't sell them everywhere, but what they do sell them, 624 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 7: I do good, but they don't. 625 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 5: It ain't none of my business. 626 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: Obviously, Bernie was taken early, but what do you think 627 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: if he would have just got to continue on the 628 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: path he was on, someone who crossed over into Hollywood 629 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: and was doing some other things. 630 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 7: I think everybody does what they supposed to hear to do, 631 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 7: and then I hear no more. 632 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 5: Moses didn't get to go through the premised land. 633 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 7: I've never seen anybody live past it that they're used 634 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 7: by day. Nobody is here any longer than they're supposed 635 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 7: to be, So I don't lamit that I'm glad I 636 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 7: got to see it. 637 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 5: I'm glad I got to be here. But when people. 638 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 7: Everybody is exist, whatever you're looking for is looking for you, 639 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 7: and everywhere you're supposed to be, you are. What it 640 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 7: is sad for me is that I always thought I 641 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 7: would have more time. Like I knew Bernie was sick 642 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 7: and I knew what was going on. But I thought, 643 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 7: I'll play this gig and we'll get together. I was 644 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 7: arrogant enough to believe the time would listen to me. 645 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 7: That's the only regret I have about it. I thought 646 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 7: that I would get to laugh with him again. I 647 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 7: thought same thing with Charlie Murphy. I thought that I 648 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 7: would get to It's an arrogant thing, that's let's not 649 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 7: I thought I would do it my father too, So 650 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 7: it's all these these things that happened. I ain't never 651 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 7: learned the god damn listen. You're supposed to enjoy what 652 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 7: you have right there. But the only thing I regret 653 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 7: about that is not what he would have done, is 654 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 7: that I wasn't. I believe that we would have more 655 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 7: time to make some more memories. And that was a foolish, 656 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 7: arrogant thing to believe. 657 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: You mentioned Charlie Murphy, you guys have a good relationship. 658 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 5: We had a great relationship. 659 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 7: He's the best story to Charlie Murphy is by far 660 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 7: the best. There hasn't been. The greatest storyteller in history 661 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 7: is Mark Twain. The second greatest teller in history is 662 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 7: Charlie Murphy. That motherfucker told some story. This is how 663 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 7: great Charlie Murphy is. I knew that Nigga had cancer 664 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 7: and I didn't believe he did. I was like everybody's 665 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 7: stomach get that big, like he was that great. He 666 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 7: told stories and he was great. His brother is one 667 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 7: of the greatest entertainers of all time. Charlie had his name, 668 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 7: and he was older, and he carved out his own way, 669 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 7: and he bombed at first, and it was rough at first, 670 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 7: but he became this thing all on his own. 671 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: It wasn't set out for me. He had no silver spoon. 672 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 5: He was just. 673 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 7: He didn't truck anybody else. He was Charlie, Charlie Murphy. 674 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 7: You you say Charlie Murphy in a way that's so 675 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 7: separate from his brother. 676 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 5: Oh? 677 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 7: Absolutely, that's how great is that? That's respect you know 678 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 7: nobody else. You don't see nobody else's. 679 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: Kids said, his dad is the bigger. Excuse me, his 680 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: brother's the biggest stars that he was on his own. 681 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 7: Name me another person who got two names at a 682 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 7: great two of them you get one and the other 683 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 7: nigga get a job. 684 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 5: That's it. 685 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: You never really obviously you had the Hugeley show, but 686 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: you never really gravitated towards Hollywood like you could have 687 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: if I think, if you wanted to. 688 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: Was there a reason behind that? 689 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 7: I think, like I said before, you where you're supposed 690 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 7: to be. I do what I love. I do what 691 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 7: I love. I love to get up, say what I 692 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 7: see and and and take what comes. 693 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 5: So it's a it's it's. 694 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 7: A more frame. Now I'm writing a show now that 695 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 7: we have a deal with a network, and I'm very 696 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 7: proud to do it. But I only want to do 697 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 7: what it is. I want to do, sitcom, what kind 698 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 7: of shows. It's gonna be a sitcom, and I'm very 699 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 7: proud of because it's a reflection of the life I 700 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 7: have right now. 701 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 5: But I never wanted to. 702 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 7: You know, the only reason I came here because I 703 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 7: felt like I had something to say. If I didn't 704 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 7: feel like I had something to say, I wouldn't be it, 705 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 7: you know. So I never want to do anything because 706 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 7: I don't feel because just because I want to do 707 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 7: what I believe I can contribute to will you be 708 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 7: starring it out? Or just oh yeah, I'm writing it. 709 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 7: It's a sitcom based on my life and my family. 710 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 7: Where I'm now. 711 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 5: I got a gay daughter, an artistic. 712 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 7: Son, and and an older daughter who had cancer, and 713 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 7: a wife who who is I've been with for forty years, 714 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 7: and so I just think uh. 715 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 5: Is in the creative process. 716 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 7: I never want to feel like I have to apologize 717 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 7: for having a perspective, And I think sometimes the entertainment 718 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 7: apparatus wants to let people off the hook. But I 719 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 7: think I want this show to be like if the 720 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 7: nation got a chance to be a fly on the 721 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 7: wall of family having a conversation. 722 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: Was there any hesitance with that? Really opening that door 723 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: with the family side? 724 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 7: Well, what they're gonna do. They're gonna tell me I 725 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 7: can't do that. You better go home and cry and 726 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 7: the pile of money and shut up. People always think 727 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 7: that experiences are just so solitary. Me and you could 728 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 7: have an experience. You could have one perspective of it 729 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 7: and I could have another. That I don't mean either 730 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 7: one of us lying, But why should I have to 731 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 7: have permission from anybody to say what I saw? 732 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 5: Like, why would I would. 733 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 7: Why would I have to ask you for permission for having 734 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 7: a perspective. 735 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 5: It's divergent from you. 736 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: What does family mean to you? I mean you're talking about. 737 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 7: Film everything, but not everything in the cliche kind of way, right. 738 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 7: I think that the family is a unit that you 739 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 7: grow into like you do anything else. What my family 740 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 7: means to me now isn't what it meant to me 741 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 7: when I was much younger. What family means to me 742 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 7: now because when you're younger, you hustle and try to 743 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 7: make it happen. You're trying to make sure everybody has 744 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 7: what they need, but what they need is you. But 745 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 7: you can't be any dude that tells you can walk 746 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 7: that perfect line where he is there enough and doing enough. 747 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 7: If you there, somebody ain't eating if you're not there. 748 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 7: Somebody said you go. But when you're a man, you 749 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 7: have to walk those paths. Now that I'm a grandfather, 750 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 7: I get to be more present and get to what 751 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 7: I've hoped is that I've instilled enough of my attributes 752 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 7: that are that are positive that my children have told 753 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 7: them who I am, and it's set the skids for 754 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 7: me where they love being around me. But even that, 755 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 7: all I know is I've done what I knew to 756 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 7: do and now try to do better. And if they 757 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 7: accept it, cool. If they don't, I can understand it. 758 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 3: You have to have gone through a lot in life 759 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: to be at such peace with where you are. When 760 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: did that kind of start coming in. 761 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 7: And nobody gets peace? You run out of wind? So 762 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 7: just thinking I can't like I would like to chase 763 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 7: all these brothers, but I'm tired. But don't you think 764 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 7: I want to go? 765 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 5: He did you tell me? 766 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 4: Now? 767 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 5: Just settle for tell me what you're gonna do. 768 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 3: But I remember, I'm talking from a standpoint of just 769 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 3: like this is me And when were you just comfortable? 770 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 3: Because it wasn't always like that, Like you said, when 771 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: you're growing in the hustle, although you're very confident in yourself, 772 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: you still kind of hear the noise, you know what 773 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 3: I mean? I asked Kobe this question, like what did 774 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: you hear during your career that hurts you or bother? 775 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: It's like I heard it. 776 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: All and it all hurt I mean, so when did 777 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 3: you become at such peace with like this is? Like 778 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: you said, I'm a red cup. They don't tell me 779 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 3: everywhere where they like me, they sell them a lot. 780 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 5: Peace is what you are forced to accept, Okay. 781 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 7: Generally, peace is one strong man giving another uh one 782 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 7: strong position, giving a lesser position an opportunity to pretend 783 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 7: like they're both getting what they want, Like I'm tired 784 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 7: of fighting, you tired of dying. It's never it's never equal. 785 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 7: So my peace comes from the fact that every day 786 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 7: I'm gonna do what I believe and I'm willing to 787 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 7: take what comes with that. So it's not it's not 788 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 7: a guarantee. It's not that I win all the time. 789 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 7: And I I ain't never been the kind of cat 790 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 7: to pray that God would get to give me victory. 791 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 7: I never cause I think that's an arrogant thing to go, 792 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 7: Please God, out of all these people, I'm your favorite, 793 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 7: show me victory. I've always prayed to God to give 794 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 7: me the best accounting I can make up myself that day, 795 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 7: and that that's a peaceful thing when you know that 796 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 7: God is gonna give you exactly what the max that 797 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 7: he can give you, and then you're gonna do the 798 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 7: best you can do. 799 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 5: Shuld I What could happen? 800 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: What makes you happy? In twenty twenty five. 801 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 7: I'm a black man who never known what happened. Who 802 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 7: I've never known a black man can tell me what 803 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 7: happeness was? 804 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 4: What is it? 805 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 7: It's this, It's like a fucking unicorn or big big foot. 806 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 7: I've never heard a black man say these things out loud, 807 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 7: happiness and safety. So at sixty years old, sixty years 808 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 7: old was the first time I've ever asked myself what 809 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 7: happenedess could be? 810 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 2: What'd you come up with? 811 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 5: Nothing yet I'm working on it, baby. 812 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: Three years later. Yeah, no, No, I don't. 813 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 5: Why would I. 814 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 7: It's it's such an abstract concept to me, Like people 815 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 7: talk about happiness like it's the place you live, like 816 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 7: it's fucking Xander. Do it ain't. Happiness is just being content. 817 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 7: So I don't. I don't know that I that I'll 818 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 7: find it, but I know that I'm more open to 819 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 7: it than I ever was. 820 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,479 Speaker 2: What'd you think about the Drake and Kendrick Beef. 821 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 5: I think that. 822 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 7: Drake is an immensely talented artist, uh who had who 823 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 7: would all always been talented and his patterns' talent had 824 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 7: always been stoked. 825 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 5: But Kendrick was an artist. 826 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 7: I've never seen an artist who was everything he thought 827 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 7: he was at the moment when nobody thought he could 828 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 7: be nobody thought he could do what he did, but 829 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 7: he did. He knew it, and because he knew it, 830 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 7: he elevated an entire coast. You saw black people and 831 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 7: bloods and crips and latins who didn't get along, and 832 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 7: he elevated because he spoke. He said, his metric was 833 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 7: set to all of us who could see ourselves in him. 834 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 7: Drake is talented, and he can make me dance, and 835 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 7: I a vibe to his shit. I never he never 836 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 7: spoke to me in the place that I felt that motherfucker. Nigga, 837 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 7: how do you make a disc record and then you 838 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 7: at the super Bowl? You ain't never seen No, you've 839 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 7: never seen it. We've never seen He is a brilliant artist, 840 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 7: A brilliant artist in an ar form this oftentime, sometimes 841 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 7: underestimated and and never clearly really quite quantified. And I'm 842 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 7: proud he's from the street something from I'm proud he's 843 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 7: breathed the same air. 844 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 5: And I'm proud he sounds and looks like he did. 845 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 4: He's keeping substance in the game. 846 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, he does, and substance to everybody. I don't know 847 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 5: what it is. I think draps very appreciate substance. I 848 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 5: hear you all the time. 849 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 7: That's why when I post you, I delete my name 850 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 7: because I want to know I did it. 851 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 5: I watched this nigga beat destroyed up. So isn't it 852 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 5: funny that two violent niggas have the best podcast and 853 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 5: it's called All the Smoke. That's fucking hilarious. Up called 854 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 5: a restraining order. 855 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 7: That's the niggas shouldn't have been in the same room. 856 00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: But yeah, restraining order twenty five. 857 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you said you're working on a pilot right now? 858 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 4: What are you working on these days? 859 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 5: I'm working on a pilot. 860 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 7: With a very talent dude called Axe Bono's for CBS, 861 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 7: and it's me and where I am right now, and 862 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 7: it looks really good. 863 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 5: I'm working writing a book called Charlie's Boy about. 864 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 7: My father, and I think the worst thing I know 865 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 7: is that my father never knew what I thought of him. 866 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 7: And this is mine telling him what I thought of him. 867 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: How long has he been going? 868 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 5: We start now? We've had to deal for two years. 869 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 7: But I just didn't think that I had the bandwidth 870 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 7: to make it happen. 871 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 2: But Pop still here as he passed. 872 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 5: I would never talk this shit he was here. 873 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, my father had to die to here this shit. Now, 874 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 7: I've had the best relationship with my father since he's 875 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 7: been gone. 876 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 5: He listens and everything. 877 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 8: So what would you tell somebody like me want to 878 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 8: get an actor that you already are actor. 879 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 4: I'm a second person. Tell me that that's what you know? 880 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 5: What it is? 881 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 7: Everything you're looking for is looking for you. 882 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 5: You never see now. 883 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 7: I think that the greatest actors I've ever seen that 884 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 7: weren't necessarily trained. But all it is is do I 885 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 7: believe what you're saying when you're saying it right? 886 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 5: So first take. 887 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 7: Things that are in your in your weares, then challenge yourself. 888 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 7: But you already acting. You're acting like you ain't never 889 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 7: beat up Detroit. And that's you acting like I can't 890 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 7: watch you from thirty. 891 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 9: Right now, that I got that down. 892 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 5: Reasonable the same man. That's so fun. 893 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 7: I think that the fact that there's so many bright 894 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 7: young co mean. I do a thing and it's called 895 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 7: uh uh Wednesdays at the d L and I do 896 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 7: it in Pasadena and it's at the Icehouse, and I 897 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 7: do it every Wednesday and I put on all young 898 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 7: comics because I see these dudes doing shit, because it's 899 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 7: it's it's different, like everybody's always talking about. I remember 900 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 7: Eric Dickison was one of my favorite running backs, right 901 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 7: and sakh On Broccoli might have broke this record, and 902 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 7: Eric pointed out that he had, oh that Taquan had 903 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 7: one more game. But no one's ever seen these kind 904 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 7: of defenses before. No one's ever seen that. So with 905 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 7: these kind of athletes and these kind of schemes, So 906 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 7: everywhere you're supposed to be, you get what you get 907 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 7: from that moment. And it's ridiculous to pretend like I 908 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 7: know or can into it what these people's parameters are, 909 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 7: what their drawbacks are, what are not. But I will 910 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 7: say the one thing that I notice about the younger 911 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 7: generation than us, they now want a collaborative or from me. 912 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 7: And I've watched a lot of them work. It's not 913 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 7: just me saying some shit. I'm just saying, but I've 914 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 7: been doing this thing for like five months now, and 915 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 7: I've seen I don't know, three hundred young comics and 916 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 7: one other things that I see in them and not everybody, 917 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 7: But there is more collaboration that's not a judgment or 918 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 7: an assessment of what that is or a judgment of 919 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 7: what that is. It's just my assessment. Us more individualistic, 920 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 7: like I have this thing. A line and tiger are 921 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 7: more powerful, but a war won't perform in the circus. 922 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 7: There's a level of individual individualism that we got and 923 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 7: maybe it was born of the time we were in 924 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 7: that I don't see exhibited now. I think they think 925 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 7: being mean and caustic. Not everybody, but being mean and 926 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 7: caustic is the way. 927 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 3: It's not even the same type of route though these days. 928 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you look at the path that you know, 929 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 3: your generation of comics had to take in the ups 930 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 3: and downs in the grinds, and it's just different now 931 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 3: because of social media. 932 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 2: Sure, but then the level of funny or is it 933 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 2: to you? 934 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 7: It was different when people went from radio to TV, 935 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 7: a TV for the films or so. It's everybody has 936 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 7: had their Yeah, But what I I think that I 937 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 7: believe that comedy is so sacracy that everybody should have 938 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 7: the right to say and do what they want. I 939 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 7: think it's an unbridled, unvarnished truth. That doesn't mean people 940 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 7: are going to sapt what you do but it also 941 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 7: doesn't mean that I'm going to agree with you could 942 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 7: be a cop and like with cop and and and 943 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 7: and you know, be in the union. But that doesn't 944 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 7: mean you can't say that this crosses the line. I 945 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 7: think that comics can cross the line too. And it 946 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 7: doesn't mean I don't love the oft phone. I can 947 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 7: respect your ability and your right to do it, but 948 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 7: I don't think it's funny to talk about how you could. 949 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 5: Rape another dude. 950 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 7: I don't think that's funny, right, not at all. And 951 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 7: then I don't think it's funny. I think it's worse 952 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 7: when you pretend like you get to say what you want, 953 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 7: that it's out of bounds. But when somebody says something 954 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 7: out of bounds or you you get offended. I don't 955 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 7: think that's Look, hey man, I said it. You have 956 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 7: every right to come at me the way you feel 957 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 7: like you need to. 958 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 3: It was in the comments I was like, bro, this 959 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 3: hanging in how you think it's going Exactly what I said. 960 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 5: You can't talk about raping somebody and that's a violent thing, 961 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 5: you know. 962 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 7: And and if that's what you mean, roll with it. 963 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 7: Two tears of the bucket and fuck it. Let's see 964 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 7: what happens. Let's see, like I remember this one dude 965 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 7: tell I'm gonna kick yourss. 966 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 5: And you know what he did. 967 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 7: But I would let's see, let's see, let's see. You 968 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 7: can't beat me before we start. Gonna happen how the 969 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 7: game won, before we even start the game. 970 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 3: Let's just see, Oh ship, quick hitters. First thing to 971 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 3: come to mind. 972 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 4: Let us know top five comedians of all time? 973 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 5: To me your opinion, I ain't gonna do it. 974 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 2: I can't do it. 975 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 7: No, but but but I but I know that that. 976 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 7: There are fifteen people I pay to see. 977 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 2: Okay, those give me, give me ten of them. 978 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 7: I would have paid to see Robert Harris. I would 979 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 7: pay to see Earthquake. I pay to see Steve I 980 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 7: paid to see said. I pay to see cat I 981 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 7: pay to see Apps. I pay to see uh uh 982 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 7: uh Deon Cole. I pay to see I pay to 983 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 7: see George Lopez. There are people I pay to see. 984 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 7: They're so funny to me. I don't even call my 985 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 7: aident asked where it at? I only ask for good tickets. 986 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 7: I just want to see it. Then I want to 987 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 7: say I saw it. 988 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: What's it like? 989 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 7: Chris Rock is daves like, it's all those people I 990 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 7: know who are doing things. I can tell you this 991 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 7: the I remember seeing Jamie Fox years ago at the 992 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,720 Speaker 7: Combact Theater and he was so talented. I I stormed 993 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 7: and I went, it's unfair for a motherfucker to be 994 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 7: that sad talented. And I was mad at him for years, 995 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 7: but for being that fucking talented. And then later on, 996 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 7: given all the things he'd gone through, like we became 997 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 7: friends and I respect of my life. 998 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 5: But look at how. 999 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 7: My him being that talented girded him up, and and 1000 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 7: and and and building all that girded him up for 1001 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 7: the things that would happened to later on in life. 1002 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 7: Like for me, I've never seen say it is the 1003 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 7: moment everybody fucking loves said. So when Kat talked bad 1004 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 7: about it, it made me happy. I was like, oh god, damn, 1005 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 7: thank you. I called said. 1006 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 5: I said, Niggie, I'm glad somebody said someth bad about you. Nigga. 1007 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 5: I'm so happy he said that he said that on 1008 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 5: the show. I'm so happy it made my dick. I'm 1009 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 5: so fucking happy that they said something bad about him. 1010 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 7: I called him rightway, Nigga, I'm glad. I don't feel 1011 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 7: bad for you. Fuck you, I know, goddamn this about time. 1012 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 7: Everybody everybody love you well. 1013 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 5: Nigga, not him. That made me so, He'll tell you right. 1014 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 7: Now, that made me episode. I couldn't stop laughing. I 1015 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,760 Speaker 7: was like, oh my god. I didn't believe it because 1016 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 7: it was not my experience with him, but it made 1017 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 7: me happy. I imagine being around somebody love all the time, 1018 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 7: and you always in trouble, and this motherfucker always explained 1019 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 7: to you. 1020 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 5: Finally, hot, hot nigga. I'm so glad of that. I 1021 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 5: can't wait till Shanny Sharp too. 1022 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 4: Come up. 1023 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 3: Five dinner guests, dinner alive, you plus five at the 1024 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 3: dinner table. 1025 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 5: Uh. 1026 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,959 Speaker 7: I would want to talk to Winston Churchill. I would 1027 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 7: want to talk to Jesus, but not not the white Jesus. 1028 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 7: I would want to talk uh uh to Mark Twain. 1029 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 7: I would want to talk to Helen Keller. 1030 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: Helen, How are you going to talk to Helen Keller 1031 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 2: right exactly? Do you know that? 1032 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 5: This is so funny? 1033 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 7: She was deaf, dumb, blind, but she wrote a book 1034 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 7: that described the world the way it is now. Really, yes, 1035 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 7: I didn't know that Helen Keller, and she also bought 1036 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 7: a key that's to America, and I would want to 1037 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 7: talk to my fifteen year old father. 1038 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: Oh young young fella. 1039 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 4: One album you can listen to with no skips. 1040 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 5: Here, my dear Marvin Gay. 1041 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,760 Speaker 4: Marvin Gay. 1042 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 5: Remember that was an album he had to give to 1043 00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 5: his wife. 1044 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 1045 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 7: It's part of a divorce settlement and he wrote it 1046 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 7: from a van. It was homeless and I think Hawaii. 1047 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 7: And it wasn't just here, bitch. It was like he 1048 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 7: wrote his best work and gave it to her as 1049 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 7: a testament to his love and her. 1050 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 5: Influence on him. 1051 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 7: And I think the most beautiful thing you could ever 1052 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 7: do is to tell people exactly how you feel about them. 1053 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 2: In that moment, well said guilty pleasure. 1054 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 5: I just told you about that. I'm never guilty about 1055 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 5: my pleasure. 1056 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 7: People always think I should be, but I'm not what. 1057 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 4: I said, O, I'm not guilty about it. 1058 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 7: I ain't got one of them. I like what I like. 1059 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 7: I just hope you don't catch mek it it. 1060 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 4: God, damn, I like it. I like mine. I love you. 1061 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 5: I don't want you to see meking and look at 1062 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 5: me like, why does this nigga? Like that. 1063 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 4: I can't go a day without mine. 1064 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean. Guilty pleasure. 1065 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 7: It means I think I'm doing something wrong. I'm thinking 1066 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 7: I'm doing something you might think. I don't like to. 1067 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 7: I never want to hurt the woman I love. I 1068 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 7: don't ever want to do nothing to hers. But it 1069 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 7: doesn't mean I don't like it when I do it. 1070 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 7: That's crazy. 1071 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 1072 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 4: Crazy childhood crush. 1073 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 7: It was a girl named Kathin. I ain't gonna say 1074 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 7: her last name. So I was in the seventh grade 1075 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 7: and she was in the ninth. Everybody has these stories. 1076 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 7: So I was in the seventh grade, she was in 1077 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 7: the ninth and I rode the bus when with the 1078 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 7: Perry Junior High and we were in La was the 1079 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 7: unincorporated part of La so they would pick us up. 1080 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,959 Speaker 7: And so the bus in La Gino, you might notice, 1081 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 7: had this hierarchy youngest in the front, seventh in the front, 1082 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 7: eighth in the middle, ninth in the back unless you 1083 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 7: were cool seventh grad you know, But I didn't. So 1084 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 7: I remember this song called Gloria by Enchatman would come 1085 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 7: on and every day I would look back at her 1086 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 7: in the mirror in the big old bus mirror and 1087 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 7: the song will come on and I look at her 1088 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 7: and she would smile, and so one day I did, 1089 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 7: and we did this for like the whole the hit was. 1090 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 7: The song was a hit for weeks, so every day 1091 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 7: would come on at the same time. And one day, 1092 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 7: why did I look over at her? And she said 1093 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 7: and said, what you. 1094 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 5: Looking at you? Motherfuck? Stop looking at me, you nap? 1095 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 5: He headed, fuck. 1096 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I. 1097 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 5: Felt so small. 1098 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 7: And the bus driver r you know, had that half 1099 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 7: gloves driving a little busy. He goes, it's all right, 1100 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 7: little man. And later on that bus driver married that girl. 1101 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 7: Very yeah girl, but he was only like twenty one, 1102 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 7: twenty two, and maybe two years ago. This girl's I 1103 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 7: got on the plane and uh, these two dudes, young 1104 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 7: cats came on and they were like, you know her mother, 1105 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 7: and they said her name and it was her Wow, 1106 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 7: And I was so glad they were sitting in coach. 1107 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 5: I was so happy. 1108 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 2: Was sitting there. 1109 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 6: If my mom would actor right, you could have been 1110 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 6: up here with me, that motherfucker, I said, Gloria, that's 1111 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 6: a true story. 1112 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 8: If you can see one guest on our show, who 1113 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 8: would it be? But you have to help us get 1114 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 8: your answer. 1115 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 5: On this one guest on your show? Who could it be? 1116 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 4: You have to help us get your answer on the show. 1117 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 7: I'd like to see y'all talk to Bill Maher, I like, 1118 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 7: I would like to see you talk to him. 1119 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would, I think be a great guest for Yeah, 1120 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 5: I do well. 1121 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 4: Man. 1122 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 3: We appreciate your time. Thank you man, willingness to come 1123 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 3: spend some time with us. 1124 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 5: Thank you man. 1125 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: We got a little gift here, Oh yeah. 1126 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 5: Thank you. Why did I know this was coming? 1127 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 2: Coffee table book? You mean? 1128 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope that's pictures? Yeah, yeah, thank you. 1129 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 2: Here we got got you a tore your cigar and I. 1130 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 5: Don't think you talk. 1131 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 3: That's what That's what I knew would be for you. 1132 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 3: And then some tour merch for. 1133 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 7: Us, And then I gotta tell y'all, man, y'all in 1134 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 7: a different vibration. I can't tell you what it's gonna mean, 1135 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 7: but I can tell you what it is right now. 1136 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 7: And I like the way y'all doing it in a 1137 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 7: way that's uniquely y'all. Two niggas that should have been 1138 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 7: arrested that probably shouldn't be within a thousand feet of 1139 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 7: each other. You know, everything you're doing right now will 1140 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 7: get you kicked out the league. 1141 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 6: Everything you easily. 1142 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 5: But I'm glad. 1143 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 3: I remember coming on your show right when I got 1144 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,919 Speaker 3: out the NBA, and you had me on a couple 1145 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 3: of times, and I liked and I enjoyed it, and 1146 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 3: you said something like, don't be coming on here, like 1147 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 3: being funny, but like almost kind of giving me a 1148 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 3: compliment that I was kind of doing a good job 1149 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 3: of what I was doing. 1150 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 7: Well, you know what, Like I said, I said, this 1151 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 7: ad nas him everything you're looking for looking for you, 1152 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 7: And I liked that you didn't listen. I'm in radio, 1153 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 7: so it's a different thing. But imagine singing the biggest 1154 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 7: podcast that no one's ever seen and then not trying 1155 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 7: to do that thing. 1156 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 5: That's the great temptation. 1157 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 7: You could go, well, that's how they're doing it, that's 1158 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 7: what he look if you want to go to the moon, 1159 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 7: if if we launched the rocket to the moon, we 1160 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 7: couldn't go where it's going. We couldn't where it's at. 1161 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 7: We got to always going. It's like if you're shooting something, 1162 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 7: you lead it. You're throwing the past, you go, you 1163 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 7: throw it where they're going, where they should be now 1164 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 7: where they at right. 1165 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 3: Fat well, man, thank you, We enjoyed your time today. Man, 1166 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 3: best moving forward. Best luck with that sitcom. If you 1167 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 3: need any extras, he's looking for it. 1168 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 7: And I'm gonna do a scene in Detroit. And what 1169 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 7: I'm gonna do it's have the whole there sing when 1170 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 7: somebody got to beat the entire city up. 1171 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 5: The man. 1172 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 3: You can catch this on the Draft Kings Network and 1173 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 3: all the smoke for actions you too. We'll see y'all 1174 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 3: next week. 1175 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: M m hm mm hmmm.