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Speaker 1: Jerry. First off, I want to extend some New Year's

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Speaker 1: Happy New Years to you and to yours. And you

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Speaker 1: able to extend your statement and part of which read,

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Speaker 1: I'm not aware of anyone who has made a more

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Speaker 1: That was something that I took away from watching what

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Speaker 1: one of those certainly in there with a big impact,

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Speaker 1: what did John Madden and your eyes do for this league? Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Bobby Will, it's good to be on

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Speaker 1: pleasure beyond with you, guys. John Madden was just as

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Speaker 1: special and unique as any of these tributes that you've

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Speaker 1: read or heard about him, and that's the point he lived.

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Speaker 1: He walked, so to speak. Among various constituencies of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the number one was the fans, but before he carred

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Speaker 1: a lot of time, boy, Jerry, be careful. You'd better

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Speaker 1: think about the nuances of the small things, the taste

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Speaker 1: for getting first downs for the cowboys, all of those

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Speaker 1: John Madden. Yeah, and you know, Jerry, I'm forty two,

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Speaker 1: so his time as a coach is a little bit

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Speaker 1: when did you When did you get to know John?

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Speaker 1: Like when did you meet him? What was that like? Well,

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Speaker 1: And really, when you look at the tenure of a

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Speaker 1: And now Davis, you might say brought him into coaching.

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Speaker 1: early if you will, not mentor, but early John Madden

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Speaker 1: Happy New Years to you and yours. Appreciate the time

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Speaker 1: new year coming up. We appreciate it to you as well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jerry, Thank you, Jerry, thank you,