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Speaker 6: We've got a couple different thought process when it comes
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Speaker 6: over these next three days of many camp practices.
Speaker 4: And then, of course, since it is.
Speaker 6: Our last show of the off season, addition, prior to
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Speaker 6: Patrick will start with some news and notes. What you
Speaker 6: got for some news and notes currently.
Speaker 5: All right, So first and foremost, let's just go ahead
Speaker 5: and say there is still currently no motion on any
Speaker 5: contract talks. Obviously the headliner is Michael Parsons. Stephen Jones
Speaker 5: did speak to it, but for the most part he
Speaker 5: said it he'll let us know when it gets done.
Speaker 5: Obviously will know before he tells us it gets done,
Speaker 5: because we kind of do that as a job. But
Speaker 5: as we have this conversation, there's been no motion negotiation.
Speaker 1: Continue.
Speaker 5: Good news in those negotiations, it's that Michael Parsons is
Speaker 5: in fact in the building for mandatory Mini camp. So
Speaker 5: for those that man forgotten OTAs and everything up to
Speaker 5: this point has been voluntary. With mandatory Mini camp, if
Speaker 5: a player does not report, they are subject to fines
Speaker 5: for each one of these three days that they missed.
Speaker 5: So Michael Parsons is in the building. Also in the
Speaker 5: building is another All Pro defensive player in trey Von Diggs.
Speaker 5: Digs has been rehabbing and training in South Florida, per
Speaker 5: Brian Schottenheimer, and per some of the videos that have
Speaker 5: made their way to Twitter, looks like he's making some
Speaker 5: good progress. Brian Schottenheimer last week or so said that
Speaker 5: Diggs had a recent check up here in the facility
Speaker 5: and that quote unquote all signs positive. So it looks
Speaker 5: as if Trayvon Diggs is in fact attacking his rehab
Speaker 5: on his knee as the Cowboys need him to. He's
Speaker 5: in the building, obviously, he's not going to participate with
Speaker 5: anything that the team is doing. He's going to be
Speaker 5: with Britt Brown and the training staff. Question will be
Speaker 5: and will open this to discussion in a moment, what
Speaker 5: will Michael Parsons do, if anything on the field. That'll
Speaker 5: be interesting because we know he's going to be in
Speaker 5: the meeting rooms. He's been in constant communication even when
Speaker 5: he was traveling during voluntary OTAs, he has his playbook.
Speaker 5: He's going to be talking to coaches and his locker roommates.
Speaker 5: But will he do anything on the field do you Because.
Speaker 6: Of course, with Trayvon, we know he's probably he's not
Speaker 6: He's not going to do anything on the.
Speaker 1: Field, not at all.
Speaker 6: He might be on the bands and we can kind
Speaker 6: of see what he looks like there. But Mike is
Speaker 6: a different category. He's healthy, he should be on the field,
Speaker 6: he should be doing some stuff.
Speaker 7: What do you expect John I mean, does he necessarily
Speaker 7: need to I mean, do we expect the player of
Speaker 7: his caliber to miss anything on the field that would
Speaker 7: affect him week one? I mean, that's so far out now.
Speaker 7: I don't expect an issue either way. It's Michael Parsons.
Speaker 7: You're gonna want him on the field, whether or not
Speaker 7: he's on the field the next three days or not.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think you're gonna be like, yeah, we'll
Speaker 7: figure it out. But as far as participation in OTA's
Speaker 7: it's kind of up in the air. As far as
Speaker 7: I'm concerned, I've many camp Excuse me.
Speaker 5: I feel you're correct, and it's Michael Parsons. Do you
Speaker 5: need him on the field during mini camp?
Speaker 1: Would be great?
Speaker 5: No, you don't need him on the field, which June
Speaker 5: like him on the field.
Speaker 4: You're not playing Philadelphia tomorrow.
Speaker 5: The reason you would like him on the field during
Speaker 5: mini camp is because there's been so much changeover with
Speaker 5: the coaching staff. You have a new coordinator, you have
Speaker 5: a new defensive line coach in Aaron Whitcott, and you
Speaker 5: have all these new pieces, including the new class of
Speaker 5: rookies that have come in. Right, you talk about Donovan
Speaker 5: Ezraku and some of these other pieces. You want your
Speaker 5: defensive leader to be present, and he is check, but
Speaker 5: you would like for him to also be on the
Speaker 5: field working with these guys at the same time. That
Speaker 5: is to be determined if you do that.
Speaker 6: Part of course, I'm playing Devil's advocate where I'm sorry
Speaker 6: you're not playing Philadelphia tomorrow and that kind of thing.
Speaker 6: But yes, you want your guy on the field. And
Speaker 6: I think at this point in time, the contract, I
Speaker 6: think all of us here anticipate the contract being done
Speaker 6: at some point, right right, that's kind.
Speaker 4: Of where we all look at it. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: It will happen. I don't even anticipate a holdout. I
Speaker 4: really don't.
Speaker 6: However, right this second could be where the leverage starts
Speaker 6: to shift a little bit, because it's either going to
Speaker 6: go team heavy or Mica heavy. And that's why it's
Speaker 6: so important what happens today on the field. That's why
Speaker 6: there is so much microscope on what will he be
Speaker 6: doing as a team guy. You want him to be here,
Speaker 6: be present, be on the field, be active, and be
Speaker 6: a leader because you want to see that moving forward.
Speaker 6: But if you're Mica, you're giving up some of that
Speaker 6: leverage going into those back half of the negotiations, aren't
Speaker 6: you by showing up?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 9: And you know, I think with David Mullagetti's clients, that's
Speaker 9: Michael Parsons's agent, they typically don't really do a lot
Speaker 9: of the on the field stuff when it comes to Okay,
Speaker 9: we're going into a contract here, we're trying to get
Speaker 9: this extension done. So I don't expect Michael Parsons to
Speaker 9: be participating on the field today.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 9: I think that that's that's kind of the way this
Speaker 9: is going to go because and you made a good
Speaker 9: point there, Kyle. It's all about leverage and contact in
Speaker 9: contract negotiations, right. Michael Parsons and his agency and his
Speaker 9: representatives are going to have all the leverage here because
Speaker 9: he is an All World player, an All Pro player,
Speaker 9: one of the best pass rushers in football. If you
Speaker 9: go on the field and risk that by trying by
Speaker 9: injuring yourself, you never never know. We've seen it all
Speaker 9: the time with players where practice they get hurt and
Speaker 9: it changes everything for them. Williams exactly, maybe not a
Speaker 9: player of Michael Parsons exactly happen. Good point, that's what's
Speaker 9: going to be the difference maker here is Michael Parsons
Speaker 9: is trying to get life changing money and you don't
Speaker 9: want to risk that whatsoever. And there's no point in
Speaker 9: risking that if you're Michael Parsons. So I don't expect
Speaker 9: him to be on the Fiel go ahead.
Speaker 7: Well, just as an evaluation of from the coaching staff,
Speaker 7: I mean, is it kind of not better? I know
Speaker 7: you want him on the field, of course, but does
Speaker 7: that give you an advantage of looking at the other
Speaker 7: depth on your roster to see where we're at Ed
Speaker 7: Rodger outside of Micah, Because granted, at this point, i'd
Speaker 7: say you are in a better spot than you were
Speaker 7: last season depth wise at edge.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I mean I'm not to mention Roku Neeland's
Speaker 6: coming back, William's coming back.
Speaker 4: You feel much better there.
Speaker 6: I still want to see them next to eleven, of course,
Speaker 6: I want to see them in comparison to eleven, because
Speaker 6: you know what the standard that is being set by Micah.
Speaker 6: You know what he's going to do from a production standpoint.
Speaker 6: I want to see the comparison between those guys and
Speaker 6: the elite pass rusher that you already.
Speaker 7: Know is on your roster and how they work in
Speaker 7: tandem with mar.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we've also talked about the different styles that
Speaker 6: eberth Flus is going to bring to the table. From
Speaker 6: a defensive standpoint, he's a linebackers guy, he's a defensive
Speaker 6: tackle guy. We haven't talked a lot about what he
Speaker 6: does for his edge rushers. I want to see it.
Speaker 6: I want to see what that looks like, and he
Speaker 6: wants to see it. What it looks like with your
Speaker 6: best edge rushers available and rotating in and out, you're
Speaker 6: gonna get plenty of looks preseason.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get plenty of looks in the.
Speaker 6: Training camp wise of your guys, of your dudes that
Speaker 6: are at the ed rusher spot, Micah is gonna be Micah.
Speaker 4: I want to see him compared to Micah.
Speaker 5: And here's in addition to that, I'll add that I
Speaker 5: want to see him on the field in real time,
Speaker 5: offering up corrections pre snap corrections and advice to some
Speaker 5: of these younger guys too that otherwise he's gonna have
Speaker 5: to wait until what that particular series that seven or
Speaker 5: seven is over, pull him off to the side and say, hey,
Speaker 5: this is what I saw. That's valuable or invaluable actually
Speaker 5: from a guy like Micah. But it's much more meaningful
Speaker 5: in real time when you can tap easy Ezraku on
Speaker 5: the shoulder pre snap and say, hey, this is look
Speaker 5: over there instead of look over here and move over here.
Speaker 5: That is going to be much more applicable to game
Speaker 5: time situations because that helps build comfort between you and
Speaker 5: those young guys. So that's another reason that I would
Speaker 5: like have to have Michael Parsons on the field for
Speaker 5: many camp. But again, Tommy makes excellent points. We all
Speaker 5: know this is and perfectly said, this is life changing
Speaker 5: money that's on the line, and we've seen time and again,
Speaker 5: and that's why I said I mentioned Sam Williams. Not
Speaker 5: the same caliber of player, not the same situation. Nonetheless,
Speaker 5: Sam Williams on a non contact drill in one of
Speaker 5: the first days in training camp, his season ends. So
Speaker 5: of course you never want to see that happen, but
Speaker 5: it's the reality of the sport and that's something Michaeh
Speaker 5: and David his agent have to take into account.
Speaker 9: Now here's something interesting too, when you think about this
Speaker 9: whole negotiation as a whole. When we talked to Jerry
Speaker 9: Jones at League meetings. He made it very clear that
Speaker 9: one of the things he wants to see from Michael
Speaker 9: Parsons in terms of taking the next step to prove
Speaker 9: that he deserves this kind of money is showing himself
Speaker 9: more as a leader. That's something we haven't really seen
Speaker 9: a lot. And everybody's leadership style is different, right, So
Speaker 9: Michael Parsons doesn't necessarily need to be a raw, raw
Speaker 9: guy who is, you know, trying to fire everybody up
Speaker 9: and give inspirational speeches or anything like that. But Michael
Speaker 9: Parsons will probably be out there when we see him.
Speaker 9: But when we go out to practice here in a
Speaker 9: little bit, when I say on the field, I was
Speaker 9: just to clarify, I'm saying he's not going to do.
Speaker 3: Anything in terms of eleven on eleven or anything.
Speaker 9: Like that, he must be surprised. But he might do
Speaker 9: individuals and just light stuff.
Speaker 3: But what does it.
Speaker 9: Look like for Michael Parsons when he's not participating on
Speaker 9: the field. Is he just out there or is he
Speaker 9: out there? Is he trying to coach up his teammates?
Speaker 9: Is he trying to give pointers here and there? Is
Speaker 9: he making an effort to you know, help out in
Speaker 9: any way that he can't because there's very it's very
Speaker 9: different right from just being there versus Okay, I'm actually
Speaker 9: going to try and make the use right be active
Speaker 9: and being active?
Speaker 6: Would that look like, let's say Tommy Yarish is in
Speaker 6: the shoes of the front office. What would you want
Speaker 6: to see from Michael Parsons in that factor?
Speaker 9: I think you want to see Michael Parsons talking with
Speaker 9: the coaching staff first of all, talking with Matt eberflusson understanding. Okay,
Speaker 9: if we're in this situation, where do.
Speaker 3: You want me to be? What do you want me
Speaker 3: to do here?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 9: Because this is a new scheme. It's going to be
Speaker 9: his third new scheme since he's been drafted. So what
Speaker 9: what does it look like? What's different? Here's what I'm seeing?
Speaker 9: What are you seeing? Things like that He's got two
Speaker 9: younger guys and Marshawn Kneelan and Donovan Azaraku that are
Speaker 9: still growing as pass rushers. One of them, Neeland, I
Speaker 9: think you know, you look at more as a run
Speaker 9: defender than he is a pass rusher. But okay, how
Speaker 9: can we work on this or maybe use this move
Speaker 9: or something like that.
Speaker 3: I'm no edge Rusher. So I have no idea what
Speaker 3: what movie is going.
Speaker 1: To coach him up on, but have some pretty nice
Speaker 1: bind around the EDGI.
Speaker 3: Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I think you can get after the quarterback.
Speaker 4: We can see like when he's getting to the lunch line.
Speaker 6: When he's going to the specific lunch line, it's like
Speaker 6: Barbara Dola Taco Dead Show shot due.
Speaker 7: It was with speed is a concern, especially compared to
Speaker 7: one Patrick Walker.
Speaker 4: Well, it was last week to put that to the
Speaker 4: test and knock star.
Speaker 9: Last week when they had meat loaf and mash potatoes.
Speaker 9: I hit a spinner club Kyle on the back of
Speaker 9: the bull rushed pack. Yeah, it was like Heber Flews
Speaker 9: was sitting right there through a flag. He said there
Speaker 9: was there was holding on the play on me. It
Speaker 9: was just insult to injury for me.
Speaker 1: It was rough.
Speaker 4: If I had to try and keep him from the
Speaker 4: around me, you.
Speaker 3: Can't stop me anyway.
Speaker 9: But yeah, really, it's just I think everybody's definition of
Speaker 9: being involved is different. I just wanted to see him
Speaker 9: being active while he's inactive, if that makes sense.
Speaker 5: Well, I also add this because while we're here pontificating
Speaker 5: on what Michael will do on the field.
Speaker 1: If he'll be on the field.
Speaker 5: I'll give you, ladies and gentlemen, A direct quote from
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons when I asked him not long ago April.
Speaker 5: I believe about his intent because in December he said
Speaker 5: he'd be on the field for the offseason program in
Speaker 5: addition to training. Cap revisited this in April and here's
Speaker 5: his quote, end quote. I'll it will be around for me.
Speaker 5: I've still got to learn a playbook, and I'm not
Speaker 5: so much of an iPad person where i can just
Speaker 5: keep learning. I've got to walk through it ding. But
Speaker 5: maybe it's so much. I might not be on the
Speaker 5: field part of it, but I'll be there learning. So
Speaker 5: that way, I'm at least getting prepared to be ready
Speaker 5: for week one. If you read between the lines there,
Speaker 5: it really feels as if he's saying he's not I'm
Speaker 5: pretty much saying he's not going to Oh.
Speaker 4: He gave you the plan, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 5: That's the ex eating rooms, playbooks, walk through, walk through
Speaker 5: all of that.
Speaker 1: But team drills it'ck snitty, yeah, is what it sounds like.
Speaker 4: That's the answers to the test.
Speaker 9: And to back that up, here's Michael Parsons from a
Speaker 9: week ago today when asked, you know, will Michael Parsons
Speaker 9: be back next week?
Speaker 3: I'm preparing as.
Speaker 9: If I will be on the field the first week
Speaker 9: of camp. But it's in the owner's hands. So he's
Speaker 9: preparing as if as if he'll be on the field,
Speaker 9: but there's no guarantee he is on the field. And
Speaker 9: if I'm Michael Parsons, I'm not on the field either. Yeah,
Speaker 9: when you've got that kind of a contract in front
Speaker 9: of you, I take no risk.
Speaker 4: Is that disappointing, though, Josh to think about.
Speaker 7: Not at all. I mean from a business perspective. I mean,
Speaker 7: this man is fighting for his contract and if that
Speaker 7: contract is not signed, do not expect me out there man,
Speaker 7: unless it is sure.
Speaker 6: There are fans out there that are like, screw the contract.
Speaker 6: I want you to play football. I want you to
Speaker 6: put you out there. I want you to do this,
Speaker 6: do that.
Speaker 7: To do this, I would argue, put yourself in their shoes,
Speaker 7: put yourself in their shoes. Where like you said, one drill,
Speaker 7: first day day one, a non contact injury takes Sam
Speaker 7: Williams out for the year.
Speaker 4: And remember they're really close exactly like and Sam or
Speaker 4: like this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you're put in that situation that is endangering
Speaker 7: your career, if you don't have a sort of financial
Speaker 7: stability around you, that contract is still looming in the air.
Speaker 7: But granted, the executives are not on a timeline. They
Speaker 7: made that very clear last year with CD. They are
Speaker 7: not on any timeline that we know of. Let them
Speaker 7: figure that out and until then, don't expect me on
Speaker 7: the field. If I am Michaeh. Parsons, which I have
Speaker 7: no qualms about agreeing with his strategy.
Speaker 5: There same nor do I, but I will give him
Speaker 5: extra protect yourself or showing this mentorship and leadership and
Speaker 5: being in the building and with these young guys in
Speaker 5: the meeting rooms and things like that, when really he
Speaker 5: could go full holdout instead.
Speaker 1: It's a hold in. It is, it's a hold in.
Speaker 5: But I'm going to give him credit for at least
Speaker 5: not pulling a full holdout. Not that I'm demonizing anyone
Speaker 5: who chooses to do a holdout because it's happened. However,
Speaker 5: you need to handle anything with CD, but I am
Speaker 5: going to give.
Speaker 1: Him extra credit for showing up.
Speaker 7: And another thing, if we were playing a game today
Speaker 7: and he decided to sit out. That would be another thing.
Speaker 7: But guess what, guys, we're not playing a game today.
Speaker 7: It's no game, it's June. We are fine.
Speaker 5: And in two Josh's point really quickly when it comes
Speaker 5: to the executives the front office not having necessary I'm
Speaker 5: not going to say they don't have a sense of urgency,
Speaker 5: but there's not a hard time or deadline for them
Speaker 5: because Mika is under his fifth year contract. He is
Speaker 5: fully guaranteed twenty four plus million dollars and they don't
Speaker 5: need the cash right now because salary cap wise, they
Speaker 5: have roughly thirty thirty one million dollars in available, and
Speaker 5: they're not looking to make as we have this conversation
Speaker 5: we'll talk about in a segment two, they're not looking
Speaker 5: at the moment to potentially make a huge splash as
Speaker 5: far as something that needs a huge chunk of sums.
Speaker 5: And even if you did need the huge chunk of sums,
Speaker 5: you'd have the thirty plus million in available, So you know,
Speaker 5: extending him to drop that twenty four million dollars to
Speaker 5: whatever it be, eight nine million, you don't need that money,
Speaker 5: right So there's nothing pushing them beyond the obvious, which
Speaker 5: is get your premier pass rusher lockdown.
Speaker 7: And that's especially if you consider what the Cowboys considered
Speaker 7: a splash in free agency or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's all subjective.
Speaker 7: They view it as their splash is different than most
Speaker 7: other people's splash.
Speaker 4: Now, there could be a splash. It's the start of
Speaker 4: the summer. You could go straight into the diving pool.
Speaker 4: Might they deep in? There might be a splash out there.
Speaker 1: Nobody gets cheesy.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get cheesy.
Speaker 6: Maybe when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, How
Speaker 6: could that possibly the Micah Parson's deal a possible new
Speaker 6: splash play into our off season grades.
Speaker 4: We'll have that in the third segment.
Speaker 6: Let's talk about the potential splash when we come back
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Speaker 4: that was, all right, Yeah, I don't know. It's class,
Speaker 4: all right, Melvin.
Speaker 6: Melvin said cheese makes everything better, and we teased your
Speaker 6: playoff hosts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's not talk about that.
Speaker 5: Not when you go against the cheese. He's talking about
Speaker 5: putting the cheese on yours.
Speaker 6: You can maybe sprinkle a little bit of cheese on
Speaker 6: that taco.
Speaker 1: Blue cheese if you will.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, I get what you are.
Speaker 6: However, speaking of cheese, the Packers goat cheese.
Speaker 4: Is he a goat?
Speaker 1: Though? I think we're just talking.
Speaker 4: Up the bricks. Uh.
Speaker 6: The Packers have released jyr Alexander corner who they played
Speaker 6: there for seven years, had some success there, and of
Speaker 6: course every time a big name hits the open market,
Speaker 6: especially when it's a mirrored position of need for the
Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys, which cornerback happens to be. So it's going
Speaker 6: to be a conversation. Let's have this conversation. Do you
Speaker 6: feel like that would be a good fit Tommy, I'll start.
Speaker 9: With, well, just considering the fact that right now Dallas's
Speaker 9: cornerback is so banged up, Absolutely it's a fit if
Speaker 9: he's healthy. The thing with Jaire Alexander. He's missed twenty
Speaker 9: games the last two years. He's only played in fourteen.
Speaker 9: So when you have an injured cornerback room already, and
Speaker 9: we've talked about it on this show, where I think
Speaker 9: when Dallas is healthy, they've got a good cornerback room.
Speaker 9: They have a good room. They have good guys who
Speaker 9: can play on the outside. You have to Ron Bland
Speaker 9: who can move to the inside.
Speaker 3: Versatile pieces everywhere. But it's when they're healthy.
Speaker 9: If you're going to add a JayR Alexander to a
Speaker 9: room that is already banged up and already going through
Speaker 9: injury struggles, I'm not sure how much that'll benefit you
Speaker 9: if he's not one hundred percent right, Because when Jaire
Speaker 9: Alexander is one hundred percent, and we've seen him in
Speaker 9: his past, he's a two time Pro Bowler, He's made
Speaker 9: the All Pro second team a couple of times in
Speaker 9: his career.
Speaker 3: He's been really good. He's been really good.
Speaker 4: He's torched the Cowboys, torched the.
Speaker 9: Cowboys a couple of times. So you've seen what Jaire
Speaker 9: Alexander looks like at his best. But if he's not healthy,
Speaker 9: then I don't know if you're really doing yourself a favor,
Speaker 9: because right when everybody gets healthy, that's awesome. But if
Speaker 9: you're not there right now, which is where you need
Speaker 9: to be, getting ready for week one and getting ready
Speaker 9: for the start of the season, then I don't think
Speaker 9: you're benefiting much.
Speaker 7: I think, well, looking at this, I did a little
Speaker 7: research into Alexander, and no coach or executive has known
Speaker 7: prior connection to Alexander. Now, if you look at a
Speaker 7: lot of the free agents that the Cowys have brought in,
Speaker 7: there have been connections in one form or another. Look
Speaker 7: at Solomon Thomas, who worked with Aaron White Cotton. Nobody's
Speaker 7: there for him as far as previous experiences.
Speaker 6: He hasn't played with Flues. I mean Flu's coached against him,
Speaker 6: and which.
Speaker 7: Might be telling too that you know it may or
Speaker 7: may not be a target right now. But there are also,
Speaker 7: at least for my book, three other names out there
Speaker 7: that I would look at before Giro Elit leader, yeah,
Speaker 7: all right, spill It. Russell Douglas. Now, he had a
Speaker 7: rough twenty twenty four, but he plays the ball well.
Speaker 7: He had four or more interceptions in each of the
Speaker 7: last three seasons. That's a guy I would definitely look
Speaker 7: a look at over Jaio Alexander a Sante Samuel Junior
Speaker 7: out there, who is a serviceable He had a serviceable
Speaker 7: first two seasons in the league. Last year was a
Speaker 7: really tough year, but a small sample size. He only
Speaker 7: played four games last year and he's only twenty five
Speaker 7: years and he has a pedigree like triple H. I
Speaker 7: mean he is, he definitely has it. I think there's
Speaker 7: a lot there, a lot of potential there. You like that.
Speaker 7: And another one would be Stephan Gilmore. Now he's the double.
Speaker 7: You know you bring him back, you know exactly what
Speaker 7: you're getting out of his Stephan Gilmore, the age is
Speaker 7: certainly there, but he's a reliable player with plenty of
Speaker 7: juice left. If if you consider Minnesota last year being
Speaker 7: able to help him over the top, I think that
Speaker 7: that's another thing. Speed would be an issue there, but
Speaker 7: if he has good safety coverage, I think that's a
Speaker 7: better option than Jyr Alexander today.
Speaker 6: So my question to you on those three names, because
Speaker 6: you're not and for those that are at home looking
Speaker 6: at it, you're not trying to replace Trayvon Diggs, Deron Bland,
Speaker 6: now Savone Rebel. Those are your three guys right now,
Speaker 6: at least on paper starter.
Speaker 4: Rebel of course, is a big question.
Speaker 6: Mark off the injury, so is Treyvon, but he's got
Speaker 6: the pedigree to lean back on and the resume to
Speaker 6: lean back on.
Speaker 4: Those would be my three guys.
Speaker 6: So my question with those four names I'll throw Jai
Speaker 6: ear with your three names is are they better than
Speaker 6: what your depth is now? Are they better than Andrew Booth?
Speaker 6: Are they better than Keemon Hall? Are they better than
Speaker 6: Israel Mukuamu. My answer on almost all four of those,
Speaker 6: probably all four of those.
Speaker 4: Would be yes. Yes, it would be yes.
Speaker 6: The only one that's kind of a question for me
Speaker 6: would be Kyer Elam in the house, because I like
Speaker 6: what I've seen from Kyer so far, and of course
Speaker 6: he was a second round pick, somebody that or a
Speaker 6: first round pick, and somebody that could possibly be a
Speaker 6: steal and free agency if he ends up playing the
Speaker 6: way that he has through OTAs, he'll see the field
Speaker 6: quite a bit in mini camp this week too. That's
Speaker 6: the only one where I'm saying I'm not giving Kyer
Speaker 6: Elam a spot on the bench over.
Speaker 4: Those three guys or under those three.
Speaker 7: Just don't look at the AFC championship for Ky.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's an AFC championship. They did get there
Speaker 6: with him on the don't look on me not to
Speaker 6: have that happen. So I that's the one question.
Speaker 4: Mark there is where do they fit in the fold.
Speaker 4: Some of those guys might be above him on that
Speaker 4: list and some might.
Speaker 1: Be below him. Okay.
Speaker 5: So my point to that in that in that great
Speaker 5: names by the way, so let me work it this way.
Speaker 5: I was and remain really high on considering a guy
Speaker 5: like a Santi Samuel Junior. I've always said on this
Speaker 5: panel several times this offseason, so that that's true. It's
Speaker 5: also true though that neither Santi Samuel no Rasul Douglass
Speaker 5: have the NFL resume as far as individual success as
Speaker 5: Alexander does. The only one of the in that list
Speaker 5: that does is Stefan Gilmore right, not only in the
Speaker 5: too right very because he's thirty four.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, I would love to have Steph back as well.
Speaker 1: I would love.
Speaker 5: Gilly back locker room Billy, but I think that at
Speaker 5: this point in his career, a healthy Stefan Gilmour is
Speaker 5: not as good as a healthy JayR. Alexander, and you
Speaker 5: can likely have JayR Alexander healthy to start on a
Speaker 5: one year deal. That's not a lot of money, Okay,
Speaker 5: it's a prove a deal. He needs to rebuild his brand,
Speaker 5: much like Pickens does. Although this wouldn't be a trader
Speaker 5: as freergency sign, so I would take for those reasons,
Speaker 5: I would take Gied Alexander over those three names, although
Speaker 5: I am interested in those three names if you don't
Speaker 5: get Gied Alexander. Now to Cole's question about Kyer Elam,
Speaker 5: I do like what I'm seeing from Elam. However, we're
Speaker 5: talking about what we're seeing from Elam involuntary OTAs with
Speaker 5: no contact and mini camp to come over these next
Speaker 5: three days. We haven't seen him in training camp. We
Speaker 5: haven't seen him in the preseason. We sure they haven't
Speaker 5: seen him in regular season games in a Cowboys uniform,
Speaker 5: in an eber Flus system. Okay, that's not to say
Speaker 5: he won't perform. What I'm saying is the Cowboys are
Speaker 5: not in a position to be able to be choosy
Speaker 5: about who they bring in as far as when you
Speaker 5: have names like Giro Alexander, or Rus Who Douglas or
Speaker 5: Stefan Gilmore get someone in here and stack the room
Speaker 5: because you have so many issues. Treyvon Diggs we know
Speaker 5: about his injury issue, likely won't be available to start
Speaker 5: the season and for several games thereafter. Kayln Carson, he's
Speaker 5: coming off a shoulder injury. Should be cleared before training camp,
Speaker 5: we'll see. But again, questions on how soon he can
Speaker 5: get back to form and what does his form even
Speaker 5: look like, because when he was healthy it was up
Speaker 5: and down and more down than up.
Speaker 1: Okay, we just talked about ELM.
Speaker 5: But then Josh Butler likely won't see the field for
Speaker 5: a large chunk of the season, if at all. He
Speaker 5: tore his ACL in December, takes about twelve months to
Speaker 5: recover from that. The list goes on and on. You
Speaker 5: lose Jordan Lewis in free agency to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Again,
Speaker 5: I could go on and on. What you need to
Speaker 5: do is stack as much talent at cornerback as possible,
Speaker 5: premium talent, if at all possible. And if you get
Speaker 5: Gied Alexander cool, if you get him for six seven games,
Speaker 5: He's averaged seven games these last two seasons. Okay, give
Speaker 5: me Gied Alexander on a one year deal. For seven
Speaker 5: or eight games. I'm assuming Treyvon Diggs is back for
Speaker 5: the remaining seven or eight games. You form them together fusion, Dance,
Speaker 5: Goku and vegeta, and there you go. If you roll
Speaker 5: Jiro Alexander and treuval On Diggs together and you get
Speaker 5: one complete season from what would be a former top
Speaker 5: five cornerback, problem is probably solved because your depth now
Speaker 5: becomes Cayer Elam, Kaitlyn Carson has time to get you know,
Speaker 5: that rookie groove from out of there because he needs
Speaker 5: to find a second year group, so forth and so on.
Speaker 5: So I am in on bringing Gyr Alexander in over
Speaker 5: those three names you mentioned. But if you don't get
Speaker 5: Jai Air, at least entertain one of those.
Speaker 4: Three, Yeah, because you need some level of depth there.
Speaker 1: You gotta have it. You gotta have one more too
Speaker 1: many questions.
Speaker 6: One injury right there is going to be a question mark.
Speaker 6: And that brings me to the.
Speaker 7: To an already beat up room.
Speaker 1: Not just exactly.
Speaker 5: Let's not pretend durn Bland didn't have that foot injury
Speaker 5: that just.
Speaker 1: Popped up, yeah, out of nowhere.
Speaker 5: If them as football, if that happens right now with
Speaker 5: this current depth chart. Not necessarily with Deran, but anybody
Speaker 5: you're trying to count on.
Speaker 6: Here's why I'm not completely sold on the Jayure Alexander bandwagon.
Speaker 6: And I've used this conversation before on the show. Right now,
Speaker 6: as it sits, your top four corners are coming off
Speaker 6: of a season where they dealt with major injuries all
Speaker 6: four pland Revel, Carson, Digs, and of course Revel and
Speaker 6: Diggs are still in the rehab process and working back
Speaker 6: from it. If you add JayR Alexander the mix, that
Speaker 6: list goes from four to five. Your top five corners
Speaker 6: have had major injuries over the last couple of years,
Speaker 6: and of course Alexander has missed twenty games over the
Speaker 6: last two seasons.
Speaker 4: So I would rather have somebody with a clean bill.
Speaker 6: Of health to throw into the mix and see if
Speaker 6: they can prove it in such a way. I think Alexander,
Speaker 6: whin healthy, is a good player. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: That's just a big caveat that.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I can look at this room
Speaker 6: and have complete comfortability saying cool, go for it. Let's
Speaker 6: go sign this guy. Unless it is just a dirt
Speaker 6: cheap contract, but with the type of player he is.
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's in a position going into
Speaker 6: year eight in the NFL to sign a dirt cheap contract.
Speaker 3: The last thing the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: It won't be veteran minimum, but it won't be that,
Speaker 6: but it's I also don't think it's going to be
Speaker 6: to break the bank sort of situation.
Speaker 1: I got thirty million.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the last thing the Cowboys. The last thing the Cowboys.
Speaker 9: Need at corner right now is a went healthy guy.
Speaker 9: That's the last thing they need. Look Like, like I
Speaker 9: said earlier, Gyr Alexander, I would take him over the
Speaker 9: three names that you mentioned just because I disagree.
Speaker 3: That's fine, that's that's what that's what we're here for.
Speaker 3: We can we can disagree. I would take Jyr Alexander
Speaker 3: any day of the week over those three guys. I'm
Speaker 3: not as all right, calm down, money, Well, I'm just saying.
Speaker 9: When when healthy, I think Alexander is better than all
Speaker 9: three of those guys.
Speaker 3: But it's a win win healthy thing.
Speaker 6: And that's the red flag that you're just exciding to
Speaker 6: wave in the air.
Speaker 5: I only need him healthy for as long as it
Speaker 5: takes Trevon to get back, and then once Trevon is back,
Speaker 5: if is still healthy, well, now you have not I'm
Speaker 5: not going to say embarrassment of riches, but you're kind
Speaker 5: of wealthy.
Speaker 4: There give at that point you feel much better.
Speaker 1: Right now you're you're poor, you.
Speaker 3: Feel great and you have a great quack.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I can look at Corner in
Speaker 6: the last couple of years, not even just last year,
Speaker 6: but the last couple of years and say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: all three of those guys once Trayvon's back, they're all
Speaker 6: going to be healthy.
Speaker 4: We haven't had that.
Speaker 6: We haven't had the opportunity to see the Cornerback group
Speaker 6: all be healthy. When one guy comes back, the other
Speaker 6: guy goes down, and that may not happen forever.
Speaker 4: But I'm not going to sit here and anticipate.
Speaker 1: At that happen.
Speaker 4: That's my biggest You can't bet on it.
Speaker 5: You can't bet on it and stack the bodies, which
Speaker 5: is funny, right, but I would rather stack it with
Speaker 5: healthy bodies.
Speaker 1: Healthy bodies healthy right now.
Speaker 4: He's had to lose cheese wheel the last two years.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's an inside Joe.
Speaker 9: If he is healthy and you can get him at
Speaker 9: a deal that's serviceable, for everybody do it. There's no
Speaker 9: I have no issue with adding quality depth at any position. Sure,
Speaker 9: here's the thing. When the Cowboy get healthy at corner.
Speaker 9: They've invested a lot in corner recently in free agency,
Speaker 9: the draft, through trade with Kyrie Elam.
Speaker 3: It's excellent.
Speaker 9: The corners aren't going to get a lot of work
Speaker 9: because everybody's going to be running the ball on the Cowboys.
Speaker 9: They don't have any depth on their defensive line without
Speaker 9: that life. If I'm Dallas, I'm looking to add to
Speaker 9: the defensive line I think more than I am at
Speaker 9: corner because it's like we've talked about when healthy. I
Speaker 9: know that's a red flag of a phrase.
Speaker 3: When healthy, I understand. I understand when healthy they've got
Speaker 3: a good room. They've got a good room if they
Speaker 3: can stay on the field together. Those are two big ifs.
Speaker 9: But when you look at defensive tackle right now, you're
Speaker 9: probably looking at you know, Osu Diggi Zua and Mozzy
Speaker 9: Smith or Solomon Thomas as you're starting one two. If
Speaker 9: any of those guys go down, you're relying on averse
Speaker 9: or second year player. I'm sorry, and those those guys
Speaker 9: might pan out and that might be great, but we
Speaker 9: don't know that yet.
Speaker 3: You don't know that yet.
Speaker 9: You don't have aside from OSA, and aside from not
Speaker 9: really aside from OSA, you have a proven can be
Speaker 9: difference maker on the defensive line. You know, Mazie Smith
Speaker 9: and Solomon Thomas have maybe had flashes in the pan
Speaker 9: here and there, but they haven't been consistent.
Speaker 7: Here's the thing. I had three names for you available
Speaker 7: free agents at cornerback. There are not three names available
Speaker 7: at interior defensive line.
Speaker 3: That's the tough part.
Speaker 4: It's not the same.
Speaker 5: Listen here, here's where I am with it. Because again
Speaker 5: we're not going to bring this up again. We're not
Speaker 5: going to pretend that the Cowboys are cash poor as
Speaker 5: far as the cap is concerned. So we're talking about
Speaker 5: either a empty pocket or b or they're not in
Speaker 5: that situation right now. So here's what I would do,
Speaker 5: especially in year one of Shot Hummer, because I love
Speaker 5: what the Cowboys have done this offseason in that they're
Speaker 5: really getting that after it. They're getting after it, you know,
Speaker 5: talk about Solomon Thomas as a death piece and free agency,
Speaker 5: talk about the tree for George blockbuster splash like they're
Speaker 5: getting after it to try to set Shoddy up for success.
Speaker 4: Definitely more movement than the last a ton more movement.
Speaker 5: Okay, keep that energy right, So bring me a Santi
Speaker 5: Samuel on a one year three million dollar deal, but
Speaker 5: also bring me Gyr Alexander on on a one year five.
Speaker 1: Million dollar deal. You do that, you still have.
Speaker 5: A ton of money to handle your DT situation.
Speaker 1: Then you're hitt a mercenary.
Speaker 6: You're addressing at that point, you're addressing cornerback four.
Speaker 1: And five exactly.
Speaker 5: And then you unleash them all in training camp and
Speaker 5: say who wants it?
Speaker 1: Who wants it?
Speaker 5: A Santi versus Jay versus Hey Revel by the way
Speaker 5: you want these reps.
Speaker 1: You're rookie.
Speaker 5: You got to go up against some of the best
Speaker 5: to do it in gir Elexanda when he's healthy. So
Speaker 5: for me, I'm getting a guy like a Santi Samuel
Speaker 5: at be Vietnam opposite.
Speaker 1: Total a total one year, eight nine million.
Speaker 7: Dollars and then doing that. One injury doesn't send you
Speaker 7: on a.
Speaker 5: Absolutely not what I mean when I say just throw
Speaker 5: I just think of talent at the with.
Speaker 4: Their two names.
Speaker 6: I think it takes more than one year, eight and
Speaker 6: nine million combined it's probably going to be more like
Speaker 6: eleven or twelve. You got it, you got you have it,
Speaker 6: and I don't think I would. I would not shy
Speaker 6: away from making multiple moves at corner because that's my
Speaker 6: biggest concern with So if you want to make multiple
Speaker 6: moves at corner here and fight it out of training camp,
Speaker 6: give everybody a chance to compete.
Speaker 4: Cool, let's make it happen.
Speaker 7: Now, just a question for Kyle you do that, how
Speaker 7: do you feel about not addressing running back at all before?
Speaker 1: I hate it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean would would you take back room? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I probably would.
Speaker 1: Who's who's available?
Speaker 4: Because that you the guy that I wanted signed that yesterday?
Speaker 5: Correct, Go Dogs, And that's that was That was always
Speaker 5: who we're talking about. That was my point because Nick
Speaker 5: Chubb was one of the if not the top guy
Speaker 5: wanted to bring in for the Cowboys. Well he's with
Speaker 5: the Houston Detectives now, so that's not a thing. So
Speaker 5: with Nick Chubb off of the off of the table,
Speaker 5: I've looked at the list of remaining for agents, and
Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you, you might as well.
Speaker 1: You gotta roll with who you got now.
Speaker 5: With that onus on guys like Javonte Williams to try
Speaker 5: to take the lead, and maybe Miles Sanders can be
Speaker 5: a contributor, and then look at Jayden Blue and film off,
Speaker 5: look at these younger guys and say, okay, well you
Speaker 5: got to go get it done. But then really you're
Speaker 5: looking at your offensive line and saying you got to
Speaker 5: help these guys.
Speaker 6: There's multiple chances to dress running back. Let's say it
Speaker 6: doesn't work out initially, you can always try and trade
Speaker 6: either draft capital or if your cornerback room is back
Speaker 6: and healthy and they're all back in the fold, then
Speaker 6: you look at it and you say, hey, we have
Speaker 6: a surplus a corner. How would you guys like a
Speaker 6: jay R Alexander or like an Asante Samuel Jr. We'll
Speaker 6: take a running back and maybe send you a draft pick.
Speaker 1: And trade dead lanes not to an overmber.
Speaker 6: So there's a couple of things that you could do
Speaker 6: there too. Dress running back even after addressing corner. But
Speaker 6: if they're making multiple moves at corner and trying to
Speaker 6: address that spot, that tells me they're okay at running back.
Speaker 4: They feel okay at running.
Speaker 7: Back, and if I got to take one one over
Speaker 7: the other, you're taking a cornerback.
Speaker 1: I'm taking caer.
Speaker 4: I'm more concerned at corner.
Speaker 6: I'm still concerned at running back, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 6: but I'm more con turned a corner because of all
Speaker 6: the injuries and all.
Speaker 3: The what ifs.
Speaker 4: I try to win healthy guys. I hate that, but
Speaker 4: where we're at, it's where we're at.
Speaker 5: But if you get to win healthy guys, it can
Speaker 5: play a factor. May be cool healthy. I want to say,
Speaker 5: they become what a healthy guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 16: Actually breakfast. I just walked to the local bagel shop.
Speaker 16: Ain't got something so light light work. I gotta get
Speaker 16: a work out of it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 16: I can't let I can't let no seed get too
Speaker 16: far ahead of me.
Speaker 1: Listen, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's even.
Speaker 1: I would say that.
Speaker 4: I'm still waiting for this race.
Speaker 16: We we've got exactly that's what I want to see.
Speaker 16: I want to see that race between Tommy, Tommy and
Speaker 16: uh and young No. See, that's what I happen to.
Speaker 1: You're only using the word race fast and loose here.
Speaker 3: You guys already know how it's going to finish.
Speaker 5: So race a race imply A race implies it will
Speaker 5: be competitive.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because he's gonna we're gonna have betting odds and everything.
Speaker 6: You're not allowed to actually gamble on it, but like
Speaker 6: with betting odds, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think it'd be something. It's going to be a spec.
Speaker 5: Hommies really can't waiah. Tommy's going to take me back
Speaker 5: to the hood days. He gonna make me take my
Speaker 5: shoes and sock.
Speaker 16: So yeah, yeah, you know what it is when we
Speaker 16: go come on, man, you let the bear claws.
Speaker 3: Out of Oh.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm sure you had a great show this morning
Speaker 6: on Good Morning Football, but now you're on the best
Speaker 6: show talking cowboys. I want to give off season grades.
Speaker 6: So this is our final show until training camp. As
Speaker 6: we talked about earlier, A through F off season grades time,
Speaker 6: we're gonna pot you down just for a minute, Isaiah,
Speaker 6: just because there's like a little background noise. I'll come
Speaker 6: to you with the answer in a moment. But Patrick,
Speaker 6: I'll let you start A through F. How would you
Speaker 6: grade the Cowboys twenty twenty five off season?
Speaker 1: Am I as a standalone or am I comparing it
Speaker 1: to last year?
Speaker 4: Whatever you want to do with.
Speaker 5: Comparing it to last year? It's an A compared it
Speaker 5: to last year? And now I mean the distance in
Speaker 5: which the pendulum has swung from nearly complete inactivity last
Speaker 5: off season and really your only off season or outside
Speaker 5: edition being Eric Kendricks to this season. It's not simply
Speaker 5: who they added, but it's when they added, what position
Speaker 5: they added in They've shown they're not a fit.
Speaker 1: For how they add right free agency but.
Speaker 5: Also mid level trade but also blockbuster trade. It's really
Speaker 5: an a for me. As far as they handle this,
Speaker 5: they're really I'll give them credit for this. They're doing
Speaker 5: a lot. I'm not going to say they're doing the
Speaker 5: best because where's Jaiir, Where's a Santi?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: I want to see a little bit more So, I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna give you an A plus, but i'll give
Speaker 5: them as a standalone, I'll give them a B B
Speaker 5: plus in comparison to last season. I'm going with a
Speaker 5: full A over last season.
Speaker 6: Okay, So your official grade for a standalone stand alone
Speaker 6: is a B plus.
Speaker 7: Okay, you know that's hard to argue. Man, Like, I
Speaker 7: think I was coming in here with a B minus
Speaker 7: on the brain. But one thing that I kind of
Speaker 7: forgot to evaluate in my my grading was George pickens Man.
Speaker 7: That was a huge thing to do after a draft
Speaker 7: where you did not draft a wide receiver a position
Speaker 7: of need, and we were all saying, that is your
Speaker 7: first round pick right there. And granted the players did
Speaker 7: not fall exactly how you expected or how you wanted them,
Speaker 7: to consider the draft, consider what they did in free
Speaker 7: agency before the draft, and then now how they're building
Speaker 7: the team. And then, not to mention, you bring in
Speaker 7: a Brian Schottenheimer, a coach that is on your team,
Speaker 7: but for all intents and purposes, he's winning the offseason.
Speaker 7: He's the way in which he speaks is just garnering
Speaker 7: a lot of praise from people outside of the locker
Speaker 7: room and inside the locker room. Clearly he has a
Speaker 7: good head on the shoulders and he's a leader so far.
Speaker 7: How does that look when we start winning games or
Speaker 7: losing games, or however the season plays out. You have
Speaker 7: to say, at least right now, Comparatively at the end
Speaker 7: of last season, I would say B plus.
Speaker 3: Well, I must be the professor that nobody wants.
Speaker 4: To have you great on a tough curve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 9: I think this is a C plus offseason. I think
Speaker 9: there are really really good goods and there are some
Speaker 9: really big lingering question marks that are still on the table.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 9: I think the good you guys hit the nail on
Speaker 9: the head George Pickens. I mean, that's exactly what this
Speaker 9: offense needed. They needed a guy opposite Ceedee Lamb to
Speaker 9: be able to handle some of that for him. I
Speaker 9: think they made some solid depth signings. I think if
Speaker 9: Kay or Elon pans out for you, that's a really
Speaker 9: good move, and they depth is the important word there.
Speaker 9: I don't think they went out and got a lot
Speaker 9: of starting caliber guys, and to be fair, they have
Speaker 9: a lot of starting caliber guys already on the roster
Speaker 9: to where they just needed to add depth in case
Speaker 9: of injury if they were ravaged like they were last year.
Speaker 9: But in my opinion, I still think there are way
Speaker 9: too many I want to say holes.
Speaker 3: On the roster.
Speaker 9: I don't think it's it's necessarily a hole, but I
Speaker 9: think areas of weakness. Defensive tackle the biggest one. I mean,
Speaker 9: what has plagued the Cowboys defense for years now? Right
Speaker 9: get stop in the run. I don't think they've done
Speaker 9: enough a defensive tackle to be able to stop the run.
Speaker 3: I don't think they have a great group in there.
Speaker 9: And that's not to say that those players can't develop
Speaker 9: and those players can't be great. Some of the younger
Speaker 9: guys can't step up and emerge into a role and
Speaker 9: be able to stop the run. But right now, based
Speaker 9: on what we know, I'm not necessarily inspired by confidence.
Speaker 9: Can that change absolutely? Is that something Matt Eberflus can
Speaker 9: change with scheme? Absolutely, But as it stands right now,
Speaker 9: I think defensive tackle, even before corner and running back,
Speaker 9: for me, is the more important pressing matter of Hey,
Speaker 9: this is where we really need to improve.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've been on that that from the beginning. You said,
Speaker 6: defensive tackle is just not there, and I tend to
Speaker 6: agree with you.
Speaker 4: I think it's just better.
Speaker 6: Built than some of the other positions at the moment
Speaker 6: because of the injury concerns, right, But as soon as
Speaker 6: injuries happened in that room too.
Speaker 3: It's going to be it's going to be really bad.
Speaker 3: It's going to be really bad.
Speaker 1: Is bad? Built is bad? What's bad? Built said?
Speaker 7: You know what you said.
Speaker 1: I think that's what he's saying.
Speaker 6: What I said, I'm saying, like what with the injuries,
Speaker 6: it's just it's it's put up there with a couple
Speaker 6: of nails and staple guns, like it's duct taped together
Speaker 6: with all the injuries that.
Speaker 7: I may ask you this though, as far as resigning
Speaker 7: o'diggy Zua, do you feel that that sort of like
Speaker 7: improved or kind of set the grade at like you said,
Speaker 7: that's c.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's it's one of the positive things they did.
Speaker 7: I mean, is do you you that's a net positive
Speaker 7: for you?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 9: If if you keep one of your better players around,
Speaker 9: that's always going to be a net positive. Outside of him,
Speaker 9: We're gonna ask Mozzi Smith for the third year in
Speaker 9: a row, if he's gonna take the jump, We're gonna
Speaker 9: see if Solomon Thomas can continue to have he had
Speaker 9: some of the best years of his career with Aaron
Speaker 9: White Cotton in New York. Can he take the next
Speaker 9: step here even though he's a little bit more undersized
Speaker 9: at his position. And then you're banking on four younger
Speaker 9: guys who were six seventh round picks over the last
Speaker 9: two years to be able to fill in those depth
Speaker 9: rolls for you. I'm sorry to me, that's just not
Speaker 9: really a lot. That's just not really a lot for me,
Speaker 9: And it doesn't necessarily inspire confidence considering what they have
Speaker 9: put forth so far.
Speaker 5: And this is why I can't nudge it to an
Speaker 5: a as a standalone item, because as a standalone item,
Speaker 5: there are still questions. We just spent the entire nearly
Speaker 5: the entirety of the first segment talking about why we
Speaker 5: would if we're interested in jyr Alexander as individual analysts,
Speaker 5: why that would be, And then Josh put up you
Speaker 5: know three more names, which just lets you know.
Speaker 1: I feel like, and I don't.
Speaker 5: Like using the term unnecessarily, but I feel like the
Speaker 5: cornerback room is in dire straits as we have this
Speaker 5: conversation that is extremely concerning I don't feel like, yes,
Speaker 5: I could see them believing in the kyer Elam and
Speaker 5: before contact exists in the Cowboys uniform, he's treating in
Speaker 5: the right direction. But we can't rightfully sit here and
Speaker 5: say that we know kyer Elam is going to be
Speaker 5: the answer in the absence of an injury like what.
Speaker 4: You've seen so far. So far it's June.
Speaker 5: Nobody's hitting anybody now, right So because of things like that,
Speaker 5: you still need to address cornerback. I agree with Tommy infinitely,
Speaker 5: the depth at defensive tackle needs to be there. And
Speaker 5: maybe and I'm huge on Toya, but again, this is
Speaker 5: a late round pick.
Speaker 1: What is he going to give you over Justin Rodgers?
Speaker 1: Don't know, don't know.
Speaker 3: I'll add this. You know what makes corner's lives a
Speaker 3: lot easier.
Speaker 4: Defensive tackles pressure on the cres.
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter if you put kyer Elam, Andrew Booth, Me,
Speaker 9: Patrick Gosh, Kyle at corner.
Speaker 3: I think it would matter, but our lives would be
Speaker 3: a lot easier.
Speaker 1: I' gett at least one p BU. If one p B, I.
Speaker 9: Think we got to pump the bricks there, sir, I
Speaker 9: love you, but we got now want to after you
Speaker 9: get now you want to line up?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 9: I'm talking about NFL wide receiver against you as barbecue chicken.
Speaker 1: I said, is I'll get one pp pick six, I'll
Speaker 1: break up of pets.
Speaker 3: It's going to be an Aaron pass.
Speaker 4: But he'll be one of those in the first row.
Speaker 4: And there's a big like.
Speaker 1: I want as quarterback. I want Cordnite. Line it up.
Speaker 3: It's corny.
Speaker 1: Line it up out u qb it you are receiver.
Speaker 3: I've got a football upstairs. Half thrust into this.
Speaker 4: I think it'd be good social content.
Speaker 9: Like if we lined him up against Jalen Cropper. You're
Speaker 9: telling me that he would get a p BU.
Speaker 4: How many reps?
Speaker 3: We have one hundred reps. You're not going to get one.
Speaker 1: We had this, We've done this before. We've done this before.
Speaker 1: Lewis agreed with me.
Speaker 4: Isaiah, you're still line what what? What are your thoughts here?
Speaker 16: I think when you say p bu in regards to
Speaker 16: my boy, no se dot's pick your butt up, that's
Speaker 16: what's gonna end up happening. Uh.
Speaker 8: You had too much time to sit there and I'm
Speaker 8: just listening here.
Speaker 6: I actually said that a minute, No, he didn't.
Speaker 16: Okay, non. In regards to the grades, man, I think Tommy,
Speaker 16: Tommy's being harsh. I think you're being harsh.
Speaker 7: Games of the Bears winning this year again, what does
Speaker 7: that have to do with anything. I'm just I'm just saying,
Speaker 7: go ahead.
Speaker 16: I'm so confused for Chicago, I'm going I'm gonna go
Speaker 16: with B plus. I'm gonna go with B plus and
Speaker 16: And the reason why I'm going with B plus is
Speaker 16: because I like what they doing with their coaching staff.
Speaker 16: I'm heavily shaving this towards the coaching staff. I like
Speaker 16: the fact that they brought it even plus. I like
Speaker 16: the fact they brought in White Cotton. I trust them
Speaker 16: on the defense side of the ball that if they
Speaker 16: feel as if they have a need at the defensive
Speaker 16: tackle position, that that's something that they're going to address.
Speaker 16: Wants the pads get on. I think that bringing in
Speaker 16: Solomon Thomas and bringing in the linebackers that they did,
Speaker 16: I think they feel comfortable with their front seven. Don't
Speaker 16: forget they got Dante Fowler junior. We still have you
Speaker 16: got Micah, you got said Williams getting healthy. So you
Speaker 16: have a lot of guys that can get to the QB. Obviously,
Speaker 16: everybody is concerned and always has been. Air concern is
Speaker 16: the ability to stop the run. But I think that
Speaker 16: not only players have a uh, you know, contribute to that,
Speaker 16: but schemes, schemes contribute to that as well. So we'll see.
Speaker 16: But I trust their expertise on defense, especially eber Flus
Speaker 16: and White Cotton, that they're going to get that figured
Speaker 16: out and if there's an issue, they'll address it right
Speaker 16: There'll be a trade during during training camp if they
Speaker 16: see if they're not seeing the production that they feel
Speaker 16: as if they have right now. Offensively, you need you
Speaker 16: guys mentioned you know, Pickens, you guys.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 16: Obviously the addition of Blue, hopefully we'll see Cavarte Turpin
Speaker 16: turn into something offensively, so you can have a three
Speaker 16: headed monster at the receiver position along with Dylan Tolbert,
Speaker 16: who's gonna be playing for some bread this year. You know,
Speaker 16: he's gonna be playing for some bread. He his name
Speaker 16: on noticed last year with the touchdowns, led the team
Speaker 16: in touchdowns, but he's going to be looking to try
Speaker 16: to make a splash and prove himself. So I like
Speaker 16: the offense. I like the offensive line. Holistically, I like
Speaker 16: the team, except for the cornerback position. That's where I
Speaker 16: agree with you guys there. I'm not confident right now.
Speaker 16: I believe that they have put together one hell of
Speaker 16: a roster of cornerbacks for the second half of the season,
Speaker 16: but I don't feel confident with the first half. And
Speaker 16: when you look at this schedule, you don't have time
Speaker 16: to be waiting for the second half of the season
Speaker 16: for your guys to get healthy. So I would like
Speaker 16: to see them be more aggressive in getting a starter
Speaker 16: from day one at that cornerback position, and then when
Speaker 16: mid season comes around, when all your guys are hopefully healthy,
Speaker 16: then you just have a heck of a competitive room.
Speaker 16: Or you got some guys that you got to make
Speaker 16: a business decision on and you got to let one go.
Speaker 16: But I'd much rather be in that position than to
Speaker 16: be in a position of just kind of crossing your
Speaker 16: fingers and hoping that one of the guys, you know,
Speaker 16: kyer Elam shows up and is ready to ball out
Speaker 16: for you.
Speaker 1: Day one.
Speaker 6: Church right there with you, man with you, Isaiah, You're
Speaker 6: on all week.
Speaker 16: Good Morning Football, right yees, sir, I'm here the Friday
Speaker 16: all the way through.
Speaker 6: Friday, watch them. Good morning football. What times it start
Speaker 6: out here?
Speaker 4: Central time?
Speaker 16: Seven A seven seven to nine am since the time
Speaker 16: on the NFL network.
Speaker 6: There you go, Isaiah, thanks so much. We appreciate you, buddy,
Speaker 6: We love you. We can't wait to see you back here.
Speaker 4: And then uh we'll get to talk some football. Come
Speaker 4: training camp. How about that?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 16: Listen, man, we're weeks out. Man, you guys, go ahead,
Speaker 16: stretch some hamstrings out. I'm going to be red gi.
Speaker 1: Hey, I want you to line up to then yeah.
Speaker 16: You're no, we're not doing that. If there are no check,
Speaker 16: I ain't running nowhere.
Speaker 4: That's a man.
Speaker 1: It will be on your spart man.
Speaker 6: As a business man, business decision. Love you, Isaiah. We'll
Speaker 6: talk to you soon.
Speaker 16: Bud carts go.
Speaker 6: All right, Isaiah there, Just before we go, I'll give
Speaker 6: my grade, and I'm basing it off of did this
Speaker 6: team get better from the end of last year, and
Speaker 6: if they stayed the same, I'd give it a C.
Speaker 4: I think they got better, I really do.
Speaker 6: I think they did the right thing at addressing wide
Speaker 6: receiver too, in a big way, bigger way than I
Speaker 6: even anticipated going into the off season. I think George
Speaker 6: Pickens is.
Speaker 4: A home run. I really do.
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a huge, huge success.
Speaker 6: We might be wrong, and we might be sitting here
Speaker 6: in the middle of November saying, man, that did not
Speaker 6: work out. However, I think at the moment as we
Speaker 6: sit here, I think that's the biggest move you could
Speaker 6: have made. I like the coaching staff, just like Isaiah said,
Speaker 6: I like some of the additions that they've made. When
Speaker 6: it comes to the roster. Tommy pointed it out a
Speaker 6: moment ago. They have when it comes to one through eleven,
Speaker 6: one through fifteen on the roster, you feel really good
Speaker 6: about your top ten to fifteen players on your roster.
Speaker 6: You felt really up in the air about players sixteen
Speaker 6: through thirty on your roster, and I think they addressed
Speaker 6: that spot pretty well. Then they really took thirty one
Speaker 6: through fifty three, and they addressed that spot pretty well
Speaker 6: through the offseason, and they've got guys fighting to get
Speaker 6: into that fifty three When it's all said and done,
Speaker 6: are there still spots defensive tackle, corner, running back. I'm
Speaker 6: still concerned about absolutely. I think there's still work to
Speaker 6: be done there, and it might come just by guys
Speaker 6: stepping up.
Speaker 4: But as Patrick will remind me over and over again,
Speaker 4: you know what I hate as a strategy, hope. I
Speaker 4: hate hope as a strategy.
Speaker 6: So as I'm looking at it on paper right now,
Speaker 6: I'll give this a B plus. I think it's a
Speaker 6: B plus offseason because they did get better. They addressed
Speaker 6: some certain spots where other people are going to benefit
Speaker 6: from Ed Rusher linebacker.
Speaker 4: I really like what they've done at linebacker.
Speaker 1: I agree it.
Speaker 6: Hasn't been a big storyline. I like Kenneth Murray, I
Speaker 6: like Jack Sanborn, I like Marisley. If I going into
Speaker 6: year number two, I like what they I've seen from
Speaker 6: Damoon Clark, and he's even going to have to battle
Speaker 6: to be on the roster when it's all said and done.
Speaker 6: So all of those things kind of play a factor
Speaker 6: in certain spots. Of course, wide receiver helps your tight ends,
Speaker 6: helps your quarterback, helps your offensive line, which by the way,
Speaker 6: has been revamped because of your first round pick and
Speaker 6: Tyler Booker.
Speaker 4: Give me a B plus.
Speaker 6: And that's where I think this offseason is still work
Speaker 6: to do, but they've done a good job of making
Speaker 6: this team better.
Speaker 4: Are they still an.
Speaker 6: Immediate Super Bowl contender? No, They're not there yet, but
Speaker 6: we could be.
Speaker 1: You have four bees, and Tommy, we'll see what what
Speaker 1: did you give it?
Speaker 4: A C C plus? That's fine, That's that's almost a bee.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep giving the herd give.
Speaker 3: Look, I think you're right. They got better.
Speaker 4: They did.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 9: They got drastically better. Sure, I'm sorry if I'm wrong.
Speaker 9: Fair line, it would not be the first time, and
Speaker 9: it's certainly not going to be the last. So I'll
Speaker 9: eat my words if I need to. But I don't
Speaker 9: think they got better enough to the point where it's
Speaker 9: you're just blown away, Like again the George Pickens edition.
Speaker 9: I like Kenneth Murray a lot. I like chance Jack
Speaker 9: Sanborn a lot. They've got a good staff for Brian
Speaker 9: Schoenheimer in his first season. I just don't think they
Speaker 9: took that drastic step, and there's so many question marks
Speaker 9: to the point where our question. I don't want to
Speaker 9: give it a you know, a beer. More so if
Speaker 9: i'm if I'm the professor that nobody likes, that's totally fine.
Speaker 5: But the fun part is is I don't disagree with
Speaker 5: him for most of it. I just feel like the
Speaker 5: screw a little bit.
Speaker 3: Five that's fine.
Speaker 4: It's a little better what we do.
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Speaker 6: When we when we're back in training camp though, we
Speaker 6: are full steam ahead and we are going into the
Speaker 6: off season or the twenty twenty five season with some fire.
Speaker 7: We'll be back, yeah, oh yeah, we'll be.
Speaker 6: Back special thanks to all those that have stuck with
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Speaker 6: We can't wait to see you guys again and can't
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