1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff to Glow your Mind from how stuff 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: works dot com. Hey, welcome to stuff to bow your mind. 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas, and 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: we both have full beards today. But but but I 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: fear that we may have gone too far. Yeah, it's possible. 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: I mean, we got all excited about growing them out, 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: at least I did, worked online for months only to 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: find out that quote scientists warn we've hit peak beard. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: The more people grow facial hair, the less attractive it is. 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? In a very straightforward way, 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: this would seem to just to be a matter of 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: beards are unique and cool until everyone has them, and 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: then a clean shaven face is unique and weird. Well, 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: let's just yeah, a clean shaven face is weird kind 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: of right. Anyway, this topic brought up beards again with us, 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: and we thought, hey, let's go ahead and replay our 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: episode on beard, the merits of them, the demerits of them, 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: and why they may be important enough this fight. Yeah, 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: because we have a lot of bearded individuals out there, 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: you might be thinking about shaving that beard. I think 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: twice about it, and listening to this episode Julie named 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: for me your favorite beards, and then the world out 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: there of bearded faces, which which one's called you the most? 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: You mean the wearer of it? No, I'm just saying 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: like beards that you I mean. I guess it's hard 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: to have you separate the wearer from the beard. How 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: do you separate the beard from the bearded? I don't know. 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm staring at our producer right now, Noel, who has 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: a wonderful beard? Does? It's a good beard, It's a 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: friendly beard. It's it's a coron. That was an awful 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: pronunciation of very current. Um, it's a good it's a 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: solid beard. But you know, one of my favorite beards 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: of all time, all pretty gray. Yes, this is the 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: biogere intologence. Yes, he has a straight, straight up wizard beard, 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: a long beer that you look at it and you're like, 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: this is a man with with wisdom. This is a 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: man um of experience that I can trust to help 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: me live forever. Yeah, And you know what I kind 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: of had wondered. You know, I think I made a 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: comment before in another episode when we were discussing some 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: of his ideas about living forever. Um. You know, there 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: was this idea of, well, if he shaved his beard, 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: would he look twenty years old or would he look 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty. I don't know. There's that much 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: facial hair going on. Yeah, and off the top of 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: my head, I don't know how old he is either, 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: so you can't even factor that into it. No, But 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: after sort of looking at some of this research, I 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: have a new view of Opportugray that I will discuss 50 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: later on in the podcast because I don't want to 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: give anything away. Okay, um, it's interesting you sent this 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: um this infographic around the trustworthiness of beards that ranks 53 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: all these varying degrees of beards from from the very 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: trustworthy to the disastrous, and there's there's like a dozen 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: of them on here, and uh, on the far end 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: of the very trustworthy s we have like to the 57 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: two beards that are closest to the end. One basically 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: looks like Noel's beard and the other one looks like 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Aubrey do Gray's beard. If you go on the other 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum, then you have to encounter a 61 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: hitler mustache and a pencil thin mustache. Say the pencil 62 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: fan always says Villain to me or John Water. I 63 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: don't think of John Waters as a villain. Well, I 64 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: think a benevolent villain. I think he would would term 65 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: himself at you know, possibly possibly he's a provocateur. But 66 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: also funny on this particular infographic is that the the 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Hitler mustache and the John Waters mustache right below that 68 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: is a full werewolf. So I'm glad that hyperdricosis made 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: the list. Yeah. Um, and I'll tell you one beard. 70 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: There's so many great beards out there, um, so many 71 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: great beards from science history alone, which I'm hoping we'll 72 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: do a little gallery to go with this online. Now 73 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: I have to mention before we launch into beards and 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: we really look at the science find them, um, that 75 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: I feel like, in part we should owe this episode 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: to your own facial hair. Yes, oh, the sideburns. Burns, 77 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: You've got nice chops there. Yeah, well let's they go 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: from the sideburn level to the chocolate which I was 79 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: I was looking at where those rank on this particular 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: trustworthiness of beards, and certainly the chops that the chops 81 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: are a little more in the neutral zone, whereas the 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: sideburns are are a little more towards the trustworthy side. 83 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: So if I can actually go buy anything that this 84 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: infograph has to say about the matter. Well, just as 85 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: a side note, you have a great photo gallery sideburns 86 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: of science, sideburns of science. Yeah, I'm thinking we'll do 87 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: one about beards as well to go with this episode. 88 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: One beard that I that I am seeing a lot 89 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: of recently because I'm watching um the current season of 90 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Madman is the actor who plays the character stand j R. 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: Ferguson has this huge beard. I don't know if you're 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: up to that point. Yeah, and so illustrator, the illustrator 93 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: massive beard, and uh I was looking up I found 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: an interview with him and he says that when he 95 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: after he came in, um, you know, ready to do 96 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: the show, grew out this beard that they wanted him 97 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: to have for this season. He said it was actually 98 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: a bit too much. It was like a cross between 99 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Johnson and Tom hankson Castaway, and they actually had 100 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: to trim it down to its to the state that 101 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: you see it in on that So so virile was 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: his beard. Yeah, I had to tame it back. You 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: know what's interesting about that, and we'll get into this, 104 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: is that as a character. He he usually says some 105 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: pretty loudish things, like loudish like um, you know, he 106 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: says some inappropriate things, sexually charged, now clean shaven, super creepy. 107 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: But the beard I actually think softened that a bit. Yeah, 108 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah, because yeah, he's he's a 109 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: far more lovable character with the beard. Well, also you 110 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: see a little bit more character development of him my 111 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: fields the show progresses, so you know him a little 112 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: better by the time as the beard. But yeah, like 113 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: earlier on you're like, who is this this guy's guy's 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: kind of awful, and now you're like, this is one 115 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: of the better gentlemen in the office. Yeah, you're right, 116 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: this guy's got personality. Yeah, and he I guess it's 117 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: the only I can't think of any of other characters 118 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: that current that are currently on the show that have 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: a beard. So no, but there is a lot of 120 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: facial hair going on for sure. No, let's look back 121 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: here in the time machine ancient Greece, where the beard 122 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: was big, right, it was a sign of virility, and 123 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: it was an advertisement that you were not a Unich. Yes, 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: because presumably or this was the thought actually that if 125 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: you were a Unich you wouldn't have the ability, would 126 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: not have the hormones to produce that the massive glorious 127 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: beards on your wisdom. And certainly in olden days, various 128 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: societies this was there were enough Unix around that this 129 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: was actually something to think about. There were actually a 130 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: fair number of units playing varying roles in society, sometimes 131 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: very important roles. Um. Which reminds me we do need 132 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: to do an episode on Unix. Was that because the 133 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 1: history of Unix and some of the science of Unix 134 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: is is really, um, really fascinating. Um. But yeah, yeah, 135 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: go back to the Greeks. The Greeks loved them, at 136 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: least until Alexander the Great came along and he said, actually, 137 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: we don't need beards. We need to shave these beards 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: off if we're going into combat, because somebody could grab 139 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: me by my beard and start slicing at my face exactly. 140 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: And I imagine that at some point too, if you 141 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: are in a situation where you don't have access to 142 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: clean water and so want and so forth, that that 143 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: little beard could get quite contested. Yeah. And certainly we've 144 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: been shaving beards for a while. Um. I mean we 145 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: well before we were shaving beards presumably we're you know, 146 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: there were situations where one would pluck out the facial hair, 147 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 1: especially if you if you weren't stay capable of growing 148 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: like a full beard anyway, maybe you just decided to 149 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: go clean cut on it and you would be you 150 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: would have to to plug at the hairs or find 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: out some of their method. But we have found archaeological 152 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: evidence dating back to one thousand BC of endo edual 153 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: shaving their beards clearly with some sort of flint instruments, 154 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: so you know, the first razors if you will. Indeed, um, 155 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: it should not go unnoted that bearded ladies make appearances 156 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: throughout history, right um. I wanted to point out that 157 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: some of this is due to something called hair sudism, 158 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: which is a variant of hypertrocosis also known as the 159 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: werewolf syndrome, when there's an abnormal amount of hair growth 160 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: on the body. Uh, though with hair sudism, it's usually 161 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: due to increased levels of androgens or male hormones. Now, 162 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: bearded ladies would show up in sideshow acts in the circus, right, 163 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: or freak shows as they were called. Most of the time, 164 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: those weren't actually ladies. They were just dudes to put 165 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: on a little with beards that put on a little 166 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: makeup and address. Yeah, but that's been going on since 167 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: Shakespeare's time, right, no ladies on the stage. Um. I 168 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: also want to point out the cultural significance of the 169 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: term beard, which is also slang for um, A person 170 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: who is a cover for a gay friend or a partner. Yes, 171 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: and apparently sometimes too, it would be a cover for 172 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: somebody who's having an affair in a mixed gender situation 173 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah. Yeah, although I would say that the 174 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: actually i've heard it more used as a way to 175 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: sort of negate someone's homosexuality in public. Feel like that's 176 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: the usage that sticks with us more these days. Yeah, 177 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: it's sort of this idea that you could give this 178 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: heteronorm appearance of a couple knowing that one of them 179 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: was gay the other was not. Um, But I do 180 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating because the term, again, when you're 181 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: talking about heteronorms, you talk about masculinity. And in the 182 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: instance where there is a male who is gay who 183 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: is with a woman, she the beard gives him masculinity. 184 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that she gives him real masculinity. I'm 185 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: saying that from society's perspective, she's imbuing him with this power. 186 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: But it always makes me anytime or the term beard 187 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: used in those scenarios, it makes me think of money. 188 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Python's the Life of Brian where there's a scene where 189 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: someone someone's going to be stoned to death and punishment 190 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: for some sort of infraction, and and only the men 191 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: are allowed to come and witness this, but only the 192 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: women are really interested in attending it. So they're all 193 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: buying these fake beards from a vendor outside the stoning area, 194 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: and uh, and they're all, you know, there to participate. 195 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: I love that bit because on so many different levels, 196 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: I think it's a commentary and society is. It's some 197 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: wonderful commentary thrown in to what is still a very 198 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: silly sketch. But that's a Python for you. All right, Well, 199 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: let's talk a bit about the evolution of the beard 200 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: and this sort of powers I said that is imbued 201 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: by this mass official hair. So needless to say, the 202 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: beard grows on the face. And it's really interesting when 203 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: you start thinking about the face. What is the human face? Right? 204 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Because certainly it is a bunch of skull meat. It 205 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: is uh, it's a place where we keep our eyes, 206 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: in our nose, in our mouth. So it's it's kind 207 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: of this uh, frontloaded sensory array that allows us to 208 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: take in the sense world around us. But then it 209 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: is also something a bit more too, It is also 210 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: a communications array. Now, all this is complicated by the 211 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: fact that, of course we end up thinking of our 212 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: face as ourselves, right, like I am my face to 213 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: a certain extent, or at least my face is an 214 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: expression of who I am. Or you're saying that some 215 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: people allow how they look to color their personality. Well, 216 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: people end up augmenting their face and to varying degrees. 217 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: And the varying degrees may include, um, growing a beard, 218 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: it may mean wearing makeup. It may mean piercings, it 219 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: may mean tattoos, it may mean cosmetic surgery. All of 220 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: these things are done because we see the faces an 221 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: expression of who we are. But then the but then 222 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: it's also tied in with the fact that the faces 223 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: a means of communicating. Um. Obviously, we make expressions. There 224 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: seven primary expressions and then various um micro expressions that 225 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: appear for just you know, fractions of a second, and 226 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: some of the best. Yeah, that allow you to get 227 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: gain some insight into what's going on, what emotions are 228 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: we feeling, what emotions are recovering. And there's actually a 229 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight check study that found that facial 230 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: expressions alone can speak a thousand words. So we get 231 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: into this idea of the face is not just you 232 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: know who we are, but but a means of communicating 233 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: with other members of our society. And uh. And so 234 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: there was another study that I found that plays into this, 235 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: and this is a two thousand twelve study from a 236 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: team of U. C L a biologist, and they started 237 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: thinking about the evolution of the human face and the 238 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: evolution of the primate face and and how does facial 239 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: diversity um factor into all of this. So they looked 240 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: at a hundred and twenty nine different adult male primates 241 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: from Central and South America. And the study included this 242 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: great wheel that that graph that had all these different 243 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: to monkey faces on it, and they ranged, uh pretty wildly. 244 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: There's you know, there there are some very conservative looking 245 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: monkey faces that it's just like, oh, well that is 246 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: that is a monkey. If you saw a picture of 247 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: you be like, well, look at that monkey. There is 248 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: and then others are you know, like crazy red faced, mustachioed, 249 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: you know, crazy eyebrow like you know, crazy monkey pictures. Yeah, 250 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: like very like punk rock monkeys. And so you would 251 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: look at these and if you look at these thinking, um, 252 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: all right, some of these monkeys are gonna be more 253 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: solitary than others, and some are gonna be a little 254 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: more society driven, a little more you know, social and 255 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: prone to live in in packs and small groups. Um. 256 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: And so what is the correlation between facial complexity uh 257 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: and uh and in social activity? As it turns out, 258 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: the crazier the face on the primates in this study, 259 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: the more solitary the monkey, whereas the planer faced monkeys 260 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: were more likely to live in in some sort of 261 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: a close knit society and in a group of some 262 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: courts sort. And so the theory here is that since 263 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: our face is the communications of race, since our faces 264 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: means of communicating with other members of our species, the 265 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: plane or the faces, the better the communication system. It's 266 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: in a large community, yeah, it's like, you know, this 267 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: is the poster that I'm going to use, or you know, 268 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: this is the billboard I'm going to use to communicate 269 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: with people, and the more graffiti I have on it, 270 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: the you know, I have drapes up on it and 271 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy stuff. It's it's getting in the 272 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: way of my ability to use that to communicate the clearest. 273 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: So that the crazy faces they're standing on their own 274 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: because they don't have to to use this. But the 275 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: planer faced monkeys, they're using this as a communication system. 276 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: And it's like a like a satellite dish. If you 277 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: want to pick up a signal, you want to have 278 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: it cleaned off. You don't wanta have a bunch of 279 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: brush on it and drying clothes and what have you. Yeah, 280 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: it makes total sense because if you are in a 281 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: large community and you've got to read each other's facial expressions, 282 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: than the plane or the face the easier to read. 283 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: But if you are just hanging out with one or 284 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: two people, not a big deal. If you put on 285 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: as much of the makeup exactly nature's makeup as possible. UM, 286 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: I do you think it's really interesting in the human context, 287 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: because conservative estimates say that UM communication is perceived by 288 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: up I think upboards of six of nonverbal cues. Okay, 289 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: so it would make sense that whatever is crossing your 290 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: face is really going to inform another person about how 291 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: you feel, and particularly when you blush. I just looked 292 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: at some research on blushing, and it turns out that 293 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: the way that our vision is constructed, the cones in 294 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: our eyes they think, Uh, scientists and researchers think that 295 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: it was constructed in a way that we could really 296 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: see the variances in skin color and humans, so that 297 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: we could perceive things like blushing as a subtle way 298 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: of saying, oh this, you know, the person um across 299 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: from me feels ashamed about this or regretful for doing something. 300 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: And again this plays into this idea of nonverbal cues 301 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: letting us know what is truly going on between humans. 302 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: So what does always have to do with facial hair? Well, 303 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: if you dress up this canvas that you display your emotions, 304 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: you are certainly trying to say something with your beard, 305 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: or rather there are some subconscious things going on with 306 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: the beard. Well, to a certain extent, you're growing a mask. 307 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: You're growing this thing out of your face that covers 308 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: up uh, you know, at least like half your face. 309 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: It's so it's it's it can be used as a 310 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: means of masking what you're actually feeling well, And I 311 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: like this idea of UH putting on a mask of 312 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: power to write. And if you look at the writings 313 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: of Barnaby J. Dixon, he's a postdoctoral researcher in the 314 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: Evolution and Ecology Research Center at the University of New 315 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: South Wales. He has a lot to say on this topic. Um. 316 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: He has a couple of different studies out right now. 317 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: And in fact, if you go to his website, he's 318 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: Dixon with a s by the way, d I X 319 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: S O N to see himself of a beard. Yes, 320 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: and he go to his website, not only will you 321 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: see his glorious beard, which is um, you're not did 322 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: with a mustache, by the way, you will also be 323 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: able to participate in a couple of online studies and 324 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: see some images of people with beards or men with 325 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: beards and then without beards, and go through the process 326 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: of rating them on their attractiveness. So let me get 327 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: back to Barnaby though Uh. In the paper published in 328 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: Behavioral Ecology quote beards augment perceptions of men's age, social steps, 329 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: and aggressiveness, but not attractiveness. Dixon and Paul L. Vacy 330 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: take a look at the power and structure of vis 331 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: via beard. And in the abstract he says, or they say, 332 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: Darwin positive that beards evolved in human ancestors via female 333 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: choice is a highly attractive masculine adornment. This is Darwin's theory. Yes, 334 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: this is they're saying. You know, Darwin put this out there, 335 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: who himself had a big beard later in life, after 336 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: earlier in life having glorious beard. But they go on 337 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: to say that they think it's not necessarily um an 338 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: element of attractiveness. Here is more of power. And he 339 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: said that they show that women from two very different 340 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: ethnic groups a group of women um that are Europeans 341 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: from New Zealand and Polynesian women from Samoa, they don't 342 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: rate bearded faces as more attractive than clean shaven faces. 343 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: In fact, women from both of those groups judge bearded 344 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: faces to be older and ascribe them higher social status 345 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: than men who are clean shaven. Yeah. I mean, of course, 346 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: one of the things with all this, you have to 347 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: take into account all the human complexity of any of this. 348 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you're in a society where the beard 349 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: is more important and more established, and you know that's 350 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna that's gonna weigh weigh in on things. Uh. But 351 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: but most of the the studies that we were looking 352 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: at here, they were we were seeing that the beard 353 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: has a stronger role in intra sexual signaling than in 354 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: any kind of female mate preferences. And in other words, guys, 355 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: you're growing that beard because you have something to say 356 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: to the other guys, not because or you know, you 357 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: may you may think otherwise, but ultimately your beard is 358 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: speaking to the other men. Well, and what's interesting about 359 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: the Polynesian women and the women from New Zealand is 360 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: that they then saw that men who were acting aggressively 361 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: with beards were deemed to be more aggressive than the 362 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: clean shaven brethren. So there's this idea again that it's 363 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: a sort of a sort of suiting up, a manning 364 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: up and again assuming a power roll. And if you 365 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: look at a paper by D. Carolyn Blanchard which was 366 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: published in Behavioral Neuroscience, um, you begin to see the 367 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: animal world being pulled in in the form of lions 368 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: in their means. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. This was 369 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: an interesting study that you came across. And the idea here, 370 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: the theory here is that all right, so why does 371 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: the lion have a main because it looks cool because 372 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: it's since the signal. Or does the lion have the 373 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: main because all of this extra hair protects some some 374 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: some very important parts of the neck and face. True, 375 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: and she says that lions with prominent means are like 376 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: men with beards, with the ideas that both began to 377 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: grow facial hair at puberty. Both the main and the 378 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: beard helped the single out gender in a crowd. And um, yes, 379 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: the beard, like the main, would give the wear a 380 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: more imposing silhouette and serve to blunt any attacks. Yeah, 381 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: because one thing you have to to think about here too, 382 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: if this theory holds up, you have to think about 383 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: the way humans have evolved. Um, what are natural weapons? 384 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Are natural weapons? Are fists? The first things we're using 385 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: to hurt each other, you know, aside from you know, 386 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: the the odd bite and maybe you know, you know, 387 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: at some point someone relies. Hey, we can kick things too, 388 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: but for the most part, we our hands have evolved 389 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: to punch people in the face. I did a blog 390 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: in a video about this a while back, and the 391 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: idea is that when you make a fist, and and 392 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: certainly we are the only species that makes fists and 393 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: punches other members of our species, or if you're Lia Nissa, 394 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: maybe a wolf with your with your fist. When you 395 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: make a fist, it's uh, you know, certainly you can 396 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: hurt your hand still when you you know, make contact, 397 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: but it's structured so that you're actually protecting a lot 398 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: of the more fragile parts of the hand, the bones 399 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: and muscles when when you ball up. So the idea 400 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: here is that that we have we've evolved over time 401 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: to use these as weapons. So in the course of 402 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: evolution to it makes a certain amount of sense that 403 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: we might also develop some sort of protective feature against 404 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: people punching us in the face. And then later in 405 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: early developments, clearly some of our first weapons are going 406 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: to be blunt instrument weapons as well, before we eventually 407 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: get to where we're creating spears and swords and axes 408 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, on up to our modern weaponry. Okay, 409 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: So a lion who is being attacked the other lion 410 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: who was attacking the line with a magnificent main would 411 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: get a mouthful of hair, right, and it would be 412 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: a little bit harder to get to the throat region. 413 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: So if you're talking about humans then striking each other 414 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: on the chin, then you've got the beard that kind 415 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: of buff or the impact of that, right right, And 416 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: of course they don't really go into a much in 417 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: the study, but humans today are not above biting into 418 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: a foe so or an ear. Yeah, so I can 419 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: only imagine that would have played apart as well. Indeed, 420 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure. And naturally Blanchard brings up something called the 421 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: glass chin phenomenon. She says it's well known in boxing, 422 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: and direct blows to the front and sides of the 423 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: neck as well as the area just under the nose, 424 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: can be particularly lethal, and that both are particular targets 425 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: of attack and unarmed combat techniques, and that this is 426 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: a protective feature of human beards, and that this is interesting. 427 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: The technical and competition rules of the International Amateur Boxing 428 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: Association prohibit beards and boxing matches. So I'm assuming that's 429 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: to level the playing field, right, I guess, because then 430 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, otherwise someone with a particularly great beard is 431 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: going to be that much more protective. Now, you don't 432 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: see those rules, if I'm not mistaken, and mixed martial arts, 433 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: because you do see bearded individuals partaking combat there, I 434 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: guess the mainly thing ing of I only know older dudes, 435 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: but like a little like Dan Sefron, he had an 436 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: awesome mustache. I don't know that wasn't really protecting the 437 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: jaw and neck. But but it seems like there are 438 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: a few other bearded guys that were thrown down. Well, no, 439 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln, of course 440 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: he describe the wrestler, and he had the beard going on. 441 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: But for sure macho man, Randy Savage, professional wrestler, but 442 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: that he had a great beard. Um, you know. And 443 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: it also ties in kind of interestingly with some other 444 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: studies we're looking at where the theory was to that 445 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: a large beard and also large eyebrows contribute to the 446 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: way that the face is perceived. They make the jaw 447 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: look stronger and more intimidating. Um and uh. And when 448 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: you couple that with a brow, I can't help but think, like, 449 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: what Peter Gallagher, the actor, who already had like amazing eyebrows, 450 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: what if he had ever grown a beard? Because I 451 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: did a quick Google search and I never found an 452 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: image of him with a beard, So I think missed opportunity. 453 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: He could have been the ultimate alpha male. Well, maybe 454 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: he's doing that just for everybody's benefit. I mean, I 455 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: bet that every time he furrows his brow that the 456 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: earth trembles. Right, So if he were to grow a beard, 457 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: it could be catastrophic. It could be someone set him 458 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: down once said, Peter, you have amazing eyebrows, and that 459 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: you must promise, must swear a blood oath and never 460 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: to grow a beard. All right, let's take a break 461 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: and when we get back, we are going to discuss 462 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: why Billy mays Is beard made him the success that 463 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: you want. All right, we're back, and uh, we said, 464 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Billy Mays, the infomercial superstar, 465 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: the pitchman. Pitch man. Yeah, um, a huge beard, I mean, 466 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: glossy black beard, the fullest beard I think I've ever 467 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: seen in my life. Not wizardy really, not like long, 468 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: but very very thick and prominent. Right. Yeah. Yeah. He 469 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: was a pitchman for a bunch of different household cleaners, 470 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: and I think that his beard contributed to his success. 471 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: And this is why A two thousand intense study in 472 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: the Journal of Marketing Communications found that men with beards 473 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: were deemed more credible than those who were clean shaven, 474 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: and the studies showed participant pictures of men endorsing certain products. Now, 475 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: the products were kind of key to whether or not 476 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: there was any correlation of increased trust. So it turns 477 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: out that men with beards had great We're seen as 478 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: having greater expertise and more trustworthy when they were hawking 479 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: things like cell phones and toothpaste. Okay, so they were 480 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: doing much better than the clean shaving guys in that area, 481 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: but not tidy Whitey's okay. Uh, Participants preferred clean shaven 482 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: men when it came to underwear. I was thinking, perhaps 483 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: subconscious the association of you know, a lot of hair 484 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: with underwear. And I know we're getting into mercan territory here, 485 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: but that might have something to do with it. And 486 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: I've never thought about this before, about who do I 487 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: prefer selling the underwear? UM? I guess I would prefer 488 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: someone without a beard. Um, But but not so much. 489 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it comes down to if are 490 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: you talking about an underwear model or just an underwear pitchman, 491 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: and is the pitchman wearing UM? I think that they 492 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: were talking about the pitchman as the model. Okay, well 493 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: I would I guess that's a good question. That's a 494 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: very good question. Well maybe I'm just more attracted the 495 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: beardless guys because I would I would want to be 496 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: sold by underwear by you know, they beardless underwear model, 497 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: but a man with a beard who is selling the underwear. 498 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: But on the package there was a clean shaven man. 499 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: And now remember the why is the bearded man there 500 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: at all? Is he the other underwear models fathers in 501 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: a department store? He has a stack of underwear, and 502 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: he is next to the clean shaven pitchman. They're both 503 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: trying to sell you underwear. I don't know. Now, that's 504 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: just a tough decision. I'm going to go with a 505 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: clean shaven because I still stand by that. I think 506 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: it's something subconscious about a lot of hair and underwear. 507 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: And then other regions you may have something there. Somebody 508 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: needs to do a study. Clearly, there are enough people 509 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: researching beards and what beards mean. There's got to be 510 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: room out there and some available funding. Let's get out 511 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: of this uncomfortable territory and into beards and how they 512 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: can contribute to one's health. Yes, now this is pretty awesome. 513 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: This uh, this is some relatively new UH info that 514 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: we have to work with here, two thousand twelve study, 515 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: UH French study. And they had an interesting theory here. 516 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: All right, so we're growing these beards, and we've talked 517 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: about how the beard, of course may provide some amount 518 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: of protection against punches to the face, how the beard 519 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: may mask our ability to communicate via our our facial 520 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: features with are the members of our species make us 521 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: a little more aggressive than we actually maybe? But then 522 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: to what if, to what degree could they possibly be 523 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: shielding us from horrible U V ray? So this study 524 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: decided to test it out. So what they what do 525 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: they do? They went and they bought three mannequin heads, 526 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: put them out in the sun. On one of them 527 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: they just left it beardless. On the other they gave 528 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: it a short beard, you know, mild beard. And then 529 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: the other one they gave a long beard, big long, 530 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: thick beard. To see how these mannequins are affected by 531 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: the UV rays based on their level of facial hair. 532 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: And they found that beards block of UV UV rays. Yes, okay, 533 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: so of course that would reduce your exposure to those 534 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: rays and decrease your chances of having skin cancer, so 535 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: a huge health benefit, right, Yeah, And certainly it brings 536 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: me back to the you know, Tom hankson Castaway, so 537 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: he's getting baked by the sun and growing that beard 538 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 1: was probably his only real choice at the time, but 539 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: he you know, it worked out for the best because 540 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: it probably gave him just a leg a little leg 541 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: up on avoiding skin cancer. Yeah, so I mean you 542 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: can see how this would be a protective cover throughout 543 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: the h right. Yeah, if you're you're making your your 544 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: life on the beach out in the sun, maybe you 545 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: should grow a beard. Maybe that would help because you 546 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: think about it that you think of like pictures you've 547 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: seen of particularly I'm thinking of like snowboard borders and 548 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: the like. You know, they'll have have the big beard 549 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: and then they'll have the big goggles and then the 550 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: hat and that's basically it. All you have to do 551 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: is worry about the nose. And if you were to 552 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: wear or say a pair of you know, gratual March 553 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: glasses or Humpty Hump glasses on top of that, you 554 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: would have complete coverage and while what image you would 555 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: be projecting, Yeah, pretty fag, especially if you went with 556 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: the humpy, hump up nose and you know, glasses instead. 557 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about the study in the 558 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: mannequin heads, and I was thinking about them in a field, 559 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: and I immediately began to imagine, instead of body farms, 560 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: we would have these mannequin head farms with various growth 561 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: patterns of facial hair on them, and how disturbing that 562 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: might be to walk up upon and say, Oh, well, 563 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, I've been I've been watching the new Hannibal 564 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Electter TV show, which there are things I really like 565 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: about it. Um. I think that the acting is great. 566 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: I think the look of the show is great. I'm 567 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm less into some of the writing and the monster 568 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: of the week scenario that they have. So each episode 569 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: seems to have to have a new crazy invented serial killer. Yeah, 570 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna eventually start running to start running out of 571 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: ideas though, So I think this could be one a 572 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: killer who's who is inspired by this survey, I mean, 573 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: the study and finds the heads of clean shaved, mildly bearded, 574 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: and super bearded men and then cut their heads off 575 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: and leaves them out in the field. Oh, like a 576 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: researcher who was like, you know, it's not enough to 577 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 1: see what you know, chemically based substance would absorb in 578 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: terms of the Sun's TUV rays. I want the real thing. Yeah, 579 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't want any polymer in the subject. And so 580 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: therefore I'm going to take this study to the you know, 581 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: the inst degree in terms of I was going to 582 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: see integrity. Yeah. And then also there's not really this 583 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: would be a great mad scientist too, because we're used 584 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: to models of mad scientists where they get into morally 585 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: ambiguous territory. They or they start using human test subjects. 586 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: But but generally they're trying to go for something big. 587 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: But you know, this would be a great one because 588 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: it's this is some low hanging fruit. There's really no 589 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: reason to go cut the heads off of people for it. 590 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: But hey, they're mad, that's what they do. Yeah. And 591 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: if you for some reason, if maybe you skipped ahead 592 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: in the podcast and you just got to this part, 593 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: this is why are you listening to podcasts that way? 594 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: It's not you're not going to get the full spectrum 595 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: there of information. Uh, but yeah, this's this is just 596 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: the marriage imaginary circumstance here. Yeah, but nobody is cutting 597 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: off heads to really see what the UV absorption example is. 598 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: But if you if you look up any of the 599 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: articles about this study, you do get to see a 600 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: picture of these three mannequin heads with their beards out 601 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of the sunny field, and it's, uh, 602 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: it's a little creepy. Alright. Well, researchers barn and b. J. Dixon, 603 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: our friend that we mentioned before and Roberts photographed ten 604 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: men at four stages of beard growth. We're talking about 605 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: clean shaven, five day light stubble, ten day heavy stubble, 606 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: and then fully bearded. Okay. Then they took three hundred 607 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: and fifty one women and one hundred and seventy seven men, 608 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: had them view photos and rate each face for attractiveness, masculinity, health, 609 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: and parenting ability. Here's the deal. Women ranked heavily stubbled 610 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: faces as the most attractive. Really, so that just that 611 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: just that level of I'm sort of growing a beard. 612 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: I think they think it's really sexy, but they don't 613 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: know how itchy it actually is. I think maybe it's 614 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: where it's it's full enough, not quite a full grown beard, 615 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: but uh, grown out enough where it starts to soften. Okay, 616 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess because that then that also yeah, because 617 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: also it didn't like really scratchy. It's like a burliopath 618 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 1: the worst. It seems like it's bad for everyone. It's 619 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: gonna scratch the woman's face and then the man eaching 620 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: like crazy and thinking, why am I trying to grow 621 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: beard again? This is why I shaved every couple of days, 622 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: although I'm sure for women there there are some exfoliation fits. Um, okay, 623 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: So participants said that the clean shaven men, the participants 624 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: meaning the men and the women, thought the clean ship 625 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: and then looked about as healthy and attractive as those 626 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: with a full beard, but they rated the bearded men 627 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: higher for perceived parenting skills. That was fascinating. Light stubble 628 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: got the shaft like yeah, just in general, so if 629 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: you've got some light stubble, um, you got the short 630 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: in the step here. When I say light stubble, that's 631 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: that five day growth not quite there kind of spotty 632 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: yah uh yeah, low scores exactly like are you hungover? 633 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: Are you what are you doing here? Is there your 634 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: homeless well, although homeless beards can grow to a great volume. 635 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, those are the results of that particular study. Interesting. Um, yeah, 636 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: and it's one of those things where it gets so 637 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: complicated when you start thinking of beards as you know, 638 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: just from from a purely biological standpoint, and then from 639 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: a cultural standpoint, and then when we factor other things 640 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: on top of it, because sometimes people will grow a beard. 641 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: Is again part of that idea that I am changing 642 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: or I want to change who I am, and I'm 643 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: going to make an outward show of this, uh and 644 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: somehow tell the world that I'm doing something, you know, 645 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: like because somebody will go through uh, you know, like 646 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: a bad breakup and then maybe they'll shave their head 647 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: or they'll grow out of beard, you know that that 648 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Um. So, so it gets complicated with humans. Well, 649 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: it's just Sampson into a lot tho, right, didn't right 650 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: when when he was clean shaven, it was gone. Well 651 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: then that goes into some very old ideas. I was looking. 652 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: I was reading in the Brewer's Dictionary phrase and fable 653 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: about the beards, and um, you know, various cultures there 654 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: are all sorts of sayings about like you know, if 655 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: you take grab somebody by the beard, it's like the 656 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: ultimate insult. And certainly if you if you cut someone's beard. 657 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: Then it's just just an enormous upfront in in varying 658 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: beard heavy cultures. All right, So just as as a 659 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: little mental abstract here, think about Zach galifin Nakis if 660 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: he were to shave his beard, how would you perceive 661 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: some of these characters who have been childlike? Uh, would 662 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: get into creepy territory? Or is it? I mean, does 663 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: the beard kind of helped him to git some of 664 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: the weirdness of those characters. I mean, it's such a 665 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: part of his look. It's it's I don't know that 666 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: I've ever seen a picture of him without it. I 667 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: was thinking that too, Yeah, but but I think maybe 668 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: it does. It does contribute to the act um fear 669 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: to shave his beard off. I don't know how I 670 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: would take it. I mean, also some you know, some 671 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: faces just work better with a beard. I think that's 672 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: it goes without saying true. Um. This is one of 673 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: the little tidbit that I found that thought was really interesting, 674 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: and it is that some men who grow out a 675 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: beard or a mustache are surprised that their facial hair 676 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: is ginger colored. They're surprised if they're not red headed, right, 677 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: And that is because facial hair allows expression of the 678 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: normally recessive jeans for red hair and very red skin. Interesting, 679 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: so I can pop up in those areas of your face, 680 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 1: but not on your head. Well, and then of course 681 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: a lot of times it will grow out gray. When 682 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: you don't that isn't really doing that, and we'll reveal 683 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: your secrets. And then the rare individual will have the 684 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: blonde beard, which I've always found kind of fascinating because 685 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: in a in a way it's almost invisible. At first, 686 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: I think of that as a very California beard. Yeah, 687 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: there was a dude in my high school. I don't 688 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: remember his name, but this is a high school, and 689 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: he had like a full blonde beard. It was very impressive, 690 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, alright, so here's some interesting research for 691 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: you guys to ponder out there. But just to be clear, 692 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: this is not a free pass to grow a Gangs 693 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: of New York style handlebar mustache. Well you know that's 694 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty triby in some areas. I mean, 695 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: walk into Brooklyn with that, and GE's the right end. 696 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: I just feel like that best left to Daniel day Lewis. Oh, 697 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: you're right. Some people, I you know, I'm sorry, I 698 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: should probably not uh tell someone not to do that. Well, 699 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: the thing about just a very specific choice, Well, the 700 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: mustache isn't is an interesting bit of facial hair because 701 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: it really almost seems like there's you got to take 702 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: it out a case by case situation. There are people 703 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: who grow a mustache and you're like, that was absolutely 704 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: the right call. Or they shave off their mustache and 705 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: you're like, that is wrong. Grow it back, um, Jimmy Buffett, 706 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: because you just don't look right without it. Um. So yeah, 707 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: it's really gotta be a case by case It's true. 708 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's just my association with Bill the Butcher, Like 709 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: if I see that mustache, I think there's a bit 710 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: of a menace to it. Yeah, it's a menacing mustache 711 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: for sure. Um alright, so there you go. Um. I 712 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: can't help but think though about some animals with facial hair. 713 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: And I was thinking that Grumpy Cat would totally sport 714 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: whole Cogan. You think the whole Cogan beard, which which mustache, 715 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: the mustache. We'll see he for a while and maybe 716 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: he still has this. He had the blonde mustache and 717 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: then but then he had stubble a stubble beard that 718 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: was dyed black. So it was it was you know, 719 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: the combo diabolical. Well, there's also an older image I 720 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: found of him once where he in this when he 721 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: had a different moniker I think, but um he had 722 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: he was not waxing his chest and he but he 723 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: did have a heart shaved into his chest. So hairy 724 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: chest except for the shape of a if that is 725 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: the ultimate act of hyper masculinity right there, right Like 726 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: I have such a hairy chest that I can now 727 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: actually assume some femininity here in my expression of emotions 728 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: via a heart. Yeah, well, there are a lot of 729 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: There are a lot of interesting manscaping choices in the 730 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: world of pro wrestling. I tell you a beard we 731 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: didn't mention. Have you seen the Hunger Games movie? You know, 732 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: the west Entley beards that he has in that with 733 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: all the flames and curls. That one is. That one's 734 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: one to think about. I'm not sure where I stay 735 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: in on that. I guess it's a future all right. 736 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: So there you have it. Beards, the world of beards, 737 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: the defensive and offensive merits of having one. Once again, 738 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: we'd love to hear your comments on this, if you 739 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: ever been in a scrape and that beard has saved 740 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: your life as a beard ever allowed you to intimidate 741 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: those around you or ingratiate yourself towards them. Also, if 742 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: you're worried about the whole peak beard thing, well don't 743 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: worry about it, because author James Vincent, writing for The 744 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: Independance says, Hey, these trends usually move in thirty years cycles, 745 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: so I'll have to use Wait just thirty years from now. Yeah, 746 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: you think that beards great? Now thirty years it's gonna 747 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: be amazing, full on wizard beard. Yeah. 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