1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drive Time with John Osher Person and 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Bryan sexty six. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: James Drive Time starts right now. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: And Tom Peterson hip coaches are you I'm gad you don't, 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: coach man. We're gonna sit. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: Here and make you the twenty seven. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 4: Up taking this draft? How about that? 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 3: All right? 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'll put it. 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 4: You're her you're ready ready. 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 3: To come to work? 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Hear. 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: We're looking forward to enjoying, enjoy these next few minutes. 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: Here's here's our general manager. 15 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Congratulations, we're get ready to submit the name. I'm more 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: to mister Cohn, our owner wants to say. 17 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 5: I do okay, okay, get you're ready to work though, 18 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 5: right man? 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: Definitely all right? 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 5: Buddy? Here you is, Hey, Anton, pretty hard man, okay, 21 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 5: enjoyed tonight before the hard lifting starts. 22 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: So excited to have you. 23 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Look forward to meeting you tomorrow. 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Well, I would say the expectations for Anton Harrison are 25 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: pretty strong. Right, work hard, play hard, party, hard, party hard, 26 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: let's go. You love it when the owners says that 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: to you. Good morning, Welcome in to JAG's Drive Time. 28 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Sexton. You all know the senior editor, senior 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: writer John Oser and post draft, after months of mock 30 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: drafts and speculation, here we are with a thirteen member 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: draft class John the largest enfranchise history. I said it 32 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: on Saturday night. It was a solid draft. And the 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: more that I went and watched some video of these 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: guys and looked at what people had written about them 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: and went through the draft guides, the more I think 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: that the Jaguars, it's a bunch of doubles, right, and 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: maybe Anton Harrison's a home run, but it's a bunch 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: of moving guys around the bases. And the reality of 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: it is is that's what you do when you have 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. You just keep stocking the roster. 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not big on draft grades, but I did 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 6: notice most of the people who really dig into the 43 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 6: draft and do a lot of work before the raft 44 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 6: and talk to people grated about a bee And again, 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 6: the Seahawks draft with Russell Wilson famously got an f 46 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 6: from people. So I'm not a big pre draft person. 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 6: But the reason I mentioned that is I think a 48 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 6: lot of people who really studied guys beyond quote the 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 6: sexy picks, liked a lot about these picks. Brenton strange 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 6: tank bigsby. Anton Harrison was not quote ranked high, but 51 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 6: you started hearing after the draft there were teams that 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 6: were really considering him in the top twenty and teams 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 6: who were going to jump. 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: At him fast if he got past the jag. So 55 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: it was a draft to me. 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 6: The overriding part of this draft top three picks to 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 6: me fit what Doug Peterson wants to do offensively. It 58 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 6: gets you two tight ends that you can really rely 59 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 6: on in the passing game. It gets you an option 60 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 6: if travisse Etn is not available or needs a breather, 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: It gives you a big time talent option there. It 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 6: feels more like a Doug Peterson offense. I don't know 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 6: that they went into that with that, you know, hey, 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 6: get a Doug Peterson offense in here, but they were 65 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 6: clearly leaning that way and looking for opportunities to do that. 66 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: And I thought they did it all right. 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Let's get started with big things here on a Tuesday 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: morning from Tia banks Field, and we'll start with a 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: big guy, Anton Harrison. He was apparently their guy all along. 70 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: If John alluded to the stories yesterday, Peter King in 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: his Football Morning in America column referenced the fact that 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders were talking about moving back and taking him 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: at twelve. So for the Jaguars to sit at twenty 74 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: seven with the addition of draft choices from two moves back, 75 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: puts them in a position with the player they want, 76 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: in a position that they needed. 77 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: There's a lot of consistency in this game. You know, 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: you love everything about his land and athleticism, how he moves, 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: his strength, you know, all things as Trent mentioned, that 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: will fit us. And you know, we're just excited for 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: Anton and just getting in that offensive line room, getting 82 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: around you know, the other guys in that room, and get. 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: Getting to work. 84 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: And that'll start next week when the rookies arrived for 85 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: Mini camp. 86 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: Big thing to the board. 87 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: Look, the Jaguars didn't go into the weekend thinking we're 88 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: going to put together the largest draft class in franchise history. 89 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: This was not thought to be a deep draft, not 90 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: thought to be a draft beyond the fourth round that 91 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: had a lot of pop. 92 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: But the Jaguars saw the board fall that way. 93 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: After many attempts to use the capitol and move back 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: up failed, well, they just stayed put and picked. 95 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 5: We tried to trade up today, we went through fifteen 96 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 5: or sixteen teams when we were trying to trade up 97 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: every team behind us and no one would make a move. 98 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 5: So you know that happened to us several times, and 99 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 5: the times we were able to trade back, we just 100 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 5: felt at the time that we could trade back and 101 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 5: get the players that we were planning on picking anyway, 102 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 5: and were able to do that. So it's just all 103 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 5: the draft went this. 104 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Year and finally better, because that's what you hope that 105 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: this draft class does, is make your ross your better. 106 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: John your reverence tank, big speed, and a lot of 107 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: folks are thinking, well, he didn't do that much when 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: he was at Auburn, but Alabama offered him in suburban Atlanta, 109 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: where he drew up, Alabama offered him his freshman year 110 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: in high school. He's a five star prospect and a 111 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: guy who made the most of his opportunities at Auburn. 112 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: But that's sort of how the entire thirteen member draft 113 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: class pans out. They're good football players who have an 114 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: opportunity to, no matter what their circumstances were at Auburn 115 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: or Texas, A and M or wherever they played college football, 116 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: come in and compete here in Jacksonville to make the 117 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Jaguars a better football team. 118 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to improve as a football team. We 119 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: still left a lot of plays on the field last fall, 120 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: both sides of ball really all three fits and and 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: so for us, it's it's not focusing on other teams 122 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: as much as it is just us getting better and 123 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: and it'll start this off season and it would carry 124 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: over into training camp. 125 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: But uh, we have to we have to improve. But 126 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: it is it is. 127 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: Nice knowing that you have, you know, the one piece 128 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: which is a big piece obviously the quarterback position. 129 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: And those are big things. Just give you one more. 130 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned Bixby, the safety Antonio Johnson, who went to 131 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: Texas A and M was the number two safety prospect 132 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: in America, behind only Brian Branch who went in the 133 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: second round of the Detroit Lions. So just because these 134 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: aren't guys that maybe you watched every weekend, and those 135 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: two are guys that we saw in the SEC, doesn't 136 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: mean they weren't highly thought of prospects with an opportunity 137 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: to come in here and do something. 138 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of things in the big things. 139 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 6: I've gotten a lot of emails saying, well, the Jaguars 140 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 6: gambled by trading back and then couldn't trade back up. 141 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: So that makes the draft of failure. I got well, and. 142 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 6: If if Brian big if, if they had indeed gambled, 143 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 6: I could see that thought. But the trade backs that 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 6: netted the four additional picks, the am getting the math right. 145 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 6: They had four additional picks, they went it with, nine 146 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: came out thirteen. Had they lost players that they wanted, 147 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 6: then I could see those being gambled. If you had said, okay, 148 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 6: we really want Anton Harrison, I'm sorry, so we're going 149 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 6: to trade back and then lose Anton Harrison to gain 150 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 6: those picks and then not be able to use them, 151 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 6: then your plan failed. As it was, they traded back 152 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 6: three spots to get three of the picks and still 153 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 6: got the guy they wanted. They traded back Brenton Strange, 154 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 6: I forget how far five yep, and but one of 155 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 6: Brenton Strange. So there was no loss therefore no risk. 156 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 6: So they couldn't use the capital that they got, so 157 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 6: they just stayed put. 158 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: But it didn't cost them anything to do it. Is 159 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: my point. 160 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 6: How many times, and this is I understand why people 161 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 6: think about the draft. 162 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: This way. The other criticism I've heard. 163 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 6: Is, well, you need to get starters in the first 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 6: three rounds. Okay, Well, I think Anton Harrison could be 165 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 6: a start. 166 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: The media starters, well, starters, Garrison's going to be right? 167 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: How many times let the NFL is not a league 168 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: of eleven on eleven? I know personally there were times 169 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: last year where I said to myself, I wonder whether 170 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: they or not like using more tight end packages just 171 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: and then the second thing I wondered a lot is 172 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: but wonder what they're going to do if they don't 173 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,479 Speaker 1: have Travis in second half the season as a legitimate 174 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: guy to come in out of Travis CTMJ Jmichael Hasty 175 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: was a nice change of pace, insert big touchdown. 176 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: Guy, and he filled a role. 177 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: I think he's a nice NFL player, but not an 178 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 6: every now But I don't know that you want him 179 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 6: starting and being the reliable Well, well, now, if they 180 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 6: don't have etn, you're not panicked anymore. So how worried 181 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 6: would you have been late in that playoff run if 182 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 6: they hadn't had Travis at. 183 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: On VTN made one of the plays of the year 184 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: with the twenty five yard run. There just seut of 185 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: the game winner against the Chargers. 186 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 6: So you need about fourteen fifteen sixteen guys offense, five 187 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 6: oence alignment and the quarterback or I was gonna say 188 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 6: the same the other guys. Doug likes having ten or 189 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 6: so guys for those six spots. The draft this weekend 190 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 6: gave them two more guys, and I think he feels 191 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 6: like at some point this season are going to be 192 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 6: legitimate parts of that puzzle. That's not nothing. 193 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, and Trent mentioned this in his 194 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: news conference on Saturday night. Undrafted rookie free agency has 195 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: gotten to be an expensive proposition because teams are out 196 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: there competing and throwing dollars around. So with the extra 197 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: four picks, you basically got a jumpstart on guys that 198 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: you were interested in bringing in as undrafted rookies. You 199 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: were able to secure the services without bidding against other 200 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: teams for them, and roster management will become incredibly difficult, 201 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: challenging and important next year if the Jaguars go ahead 202 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: and give Trevor Lawrence his first bite to that big apple, 203 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: which is now we know more than fifty three million dollars. 204 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: So having extra picks gives you extra flexibility gives you 205 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: fixed cost labor. I don't want say cheap labor, because 206 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: nothing in this league is cheap. But they're gonna play 207 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: at a fixed cost for a couple of years, which 208 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: helps you manage the upper end of the roster. And 209 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: quite frankly, we've never seen it in Jacksonville. We've never 210 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: seen the mega contract. You can say Nick Foles, but 211 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: it was one year. We've never seen that. You've got 212 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: to manage it over time because it was never there 213 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: and they've never had that guy. 214 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, and they fifty three guys is kind of a 215 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 6: missing over in this league. Now, you really need about sixty. 216 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 6: Some of these guys will be practice squad guys to start, 217 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 6: I'm sure, but they'll be available guys. 218 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: They'll be parts of the puzzle. 219 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 6: Look, I'm not sitting here saying that it was the 220 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 6: sexiest draft I've ever seen, But if you're going to 221 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 6: pick twenty seven to be at bottom of the draft, 222 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 6: I covered an awful lot of drafts with the Colts 223 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 6: that weren't very sexy, and they kept going to the 224 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 6: playoffs because they kept having good players late in the 225 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 6: first round. 226 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: All Right, there are big things to kick the show 227 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: off this morning. When we come back, we'll go a 228 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: little deeper. We'll look at some position by position groups, 229 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: see where these guys fit in, and discuss more of 230 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: the Jaguars solid draft class from last weekend. At least 231 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: that's my opinion. We'll be back right after this on 232 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Jagg's draft time. 233 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: There's always time to add, you know. And we're in 234 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 5: a good situation from a cap perspective, a lot less 235 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 5: tight on the cap than we were a year ago. 236 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 5: There's room to work here. We're not you know, Coach 237 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 5: and I talked about this right after the draft. We're 238 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 5: not done putting this team together. We're gonna take a 239 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 5: hard look at what we have. We got a great 240 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 5: chance with these young guys coming in in a couple 241 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 5: of weeks and then over the next month or so 242 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 5: watching them as they go through the offseason program and 243 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 5: really kind of assess where we're at. 244 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Drag's Drive time, Brian section along with 245 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: John Osher. 246 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: You have a thought. 247 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, that tells me, Brian, that comment sounds like a 248 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 6: veteran pass rusher. And for this reason, if you looked, 249 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 6: I think they would have liked to have gotten an 250 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 6: edge guy somewhere in the drafts, and they did. 251 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: But I think they really looked at that. 252 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 6: I think if there had been a really good edge 253 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 6: that they really loved at twenty four, I think they 254 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 6: strongly considered it. That's a tough spot to get there, 255 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 6: especially if you're trying to get some immediate impact. So 256 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 6: it and this is just sort of putting three and 257 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 6: four together and getting six. 258 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: But if you. 259 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 6: Go into this and think, Okay, I don't love the 260 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 6: edges here, and I'm going to commit a ton of 261 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 6: money in the first round to one that I don't 262 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 6: necessarily trust, or I can go out on the market 263 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 6: and maybe give some short term money for some immediate 264 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 6: gain that I'm not committed to forever because you're committed 265 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 6: to that first round or four years. Maybe that played 266 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 6: into philosophically a little bit. Also, wouldn't It still wouldn't 267 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 6: stun me if if they looked at Corner, you know, 268 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 6: for Nickel, they they talk about Trey Herndon, and I 269 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 6: like Trey. I wonder if they wouldn't try to find 270 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 6: veteran there just to compete with him, get, you know, 271 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 6: have that piece of the puzzle at Nickel. Again, as 272 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 6: I hear anything, it's just looking. Those are the two 273 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 6: spots that you feel like you may be talking about. 274 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's throw up a couple of graphics 275 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: and show you how it stacks up. Again, totally unofficial, 276 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: just putting names up here. So let's take a look 277 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: at the offensive line group first, because of Anton Harrison's 278 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: arrival and the pending suspension of Cam Robinson and Cam 279 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: obviously he's not listed there at this particular moment. But 280 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: when you see a big right tackle, because let's be honest, 281 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: cold Van Lannon's not that guy, right, Blake Hans is 282 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: not that guy. To be able to have that right 283 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: tackle gives you a lot of comforts probably the strong word, 284 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: but you feel good about having a big, talented young guy, 285 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: even if he's inexperienced against NFL pass rushers with this 286 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: offensive line group. 287 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder. 288 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 6: How it'll look because Doug said the other night, and 289 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 6: how he's gonna start a right tackle. 290 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: That puts Walker little at left. You wonder how it's 291 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: gonna play out. I would imagine he'd stay it left, 292 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: don't you think so? After Cam gets back? Yeah, I 293 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: mean he's going to be the. 294 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: Left long term left tackle here, So why wouldn't you 295 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: just leave him there? And by the way, if Harrison 296 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: is as good as they hope he is, yeah, Cam's 297 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: going to become a swing guy, right, I mean again, 298 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: talking about the guy with the highest cap figure on 299 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: your roster, it seems preposterous to say that. But his 300 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: number is such that he's probably not going to be 301 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty four. 302 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't see him being aw I've got to 303 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 6: think they try to get all three on the field. 304 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 6: I think it's a fascinating conversation and I don't know 305 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 6: the answer to it. 306 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: We don't know how many games he's he's been suspended 307 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: for yet, right, and it'll be two fours, so I 308 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: don't But I think the fascinating thing is that I'm 309 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: not sure they know exactly how it's gonna play out. 310 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I. 311 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 6: Think it's it's okay, I think that well, but if 312 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 6: you think about it, I also think this time last year. 313 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: I thought Walker Little was going to start a right tackle. 314 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah too. 315 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 6: So this is a staff that will allow this to 316 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 6: play out over the course of the right amount of 317 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 6: time to figure out how this might work. 318 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: And I would suppose that, and it's a good problem 319 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: to have if it's a two game suspension, all right, 320 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: So maybe he comes in, he goes right back to 321 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: right tackle. Who knows, and Harrison could slide somewhere else. 322 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: But Doug was pretty direct on Friday in his news 323 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: conference and talking about he's going to be the right tackle. 324 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: That's where we're working. If it's four or six games, 325 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: that could change the dynamic for sure. How about a 326 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: look at the defensive line to give you a sense 327 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: of where this particular group is heading in And congratulations 328 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: to Devon Hamilton who got his long term contract. And 329 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: you see that they add Tyler Lacy who's a big 330 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: bodied sort of Dwan Smoot kind of guy, a little 331 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: bit bigger than Dwan to two hundred and eighty pounds, 332 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: but a guy who can play three technique five technique. 333 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: He's not a wide nine rusher John, but he's that 334 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: kind of depth that they don't have with Dwan Smoot 335 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: coming off injury, not on the roster. 336 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: Well, and you need that. 337 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 6: Again, I look at their defensive personnel and it's as 338 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 6: hybrid as it gets right now. 339 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: And I think we. 340 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 6: Always talk about three four four three whatever You've got 341 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: a lot of guys who can play a lot of 342 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 6: different roles, and that's what you need in the modern NFL. 343 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 6: I like Lacy from what I've seen of him, and 344 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 6: I think your comparison is dead on Smoot, whose incredible 345 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 6: value to this team was always being able to get 346 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 6: a little bit of extra oomph wherever you happen. 347 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: To put him. 348 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 6: He could go edge out, wide nine, but he could 349 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 6: play off the edge, play defensive tackle, play defensive end. 350 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 6: If Lacey's Smoot and you got him in the fourth round, 351 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 6: you love that pick. 352 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the defensive backs because this 353 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: is obviously an area of focus that people think they 354 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: haven't quite addressed. And you see, here's a couple of 355 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: names right before we talk about the rookies. 356 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: How about Gregory. 357 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: Junior and Monteric Brown sixth and seventh round picks last year. 358 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: And this is an area that people just they gloss 359 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: over it. They think you only add by bringing new 360 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: players in. But what if those two guys are appreciably 361 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: better in their second year. That'd be a big step up. 362 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Monterak out on the field some last year, Gregory Junior 363 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: really didn't. But when we talk about adding a corner in. Oh, 364 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't see his name up there, the young man 365 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: from Rutgers right right. You add him, and you say, well, 366 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what's a guy going to do in the 367 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: seventh round? But you got those two guys that you 368 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: hope are in front of him, and he doesn't have 369 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: to come in and play right. 370 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 6: Away, you hope, And I think this is the uh. 371 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 6: And if Trent were sitting here, he would tell you this. 372 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 6: If you're going to be a draft and developed team, 373 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 6: you need your Day one. 374 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: And Day two picks to be really, really good. 375 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 6: You also need, if you're drafting over the course of 376 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 6: three or four years, once every a couple of years, 377 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 6: you need a sixth round, seventh round guy to be 378 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 6: able to at least place hold a spot in the 379 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 6: lineup for you for a year or two. Because if 380 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 6: you're going to have the huge contracts at the top, 381 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 6: and not just quarterback, but if you're gonna have the 382 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 6: star contracts that are really carrying you a those players 383 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 6: have to be good enough to carry non stars to 384 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 6: the playoffs. But then you've got to have some late 385 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 6: round picks because you can't draft everything that you need 386 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 6: to supplement those big contracts. Even in the rotation we're 387 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 6: talking about the four year rotation. 388 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: And draft picks. 389 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 6: If you draft him and they're gone, you can't do 390 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 6: all that in the first, second and third round. You 391 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 6: need some fifth and sixth and seventh round picks to 392 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 6: come in and fill that hole. 393 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: Ideally that would happen. 394 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 6: At cornerback this year because you drafted two, six and 395 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 6: seventh round or last year draft one. This year, at 396 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 6: some point you need one of those guys you know, 397 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 6: to come up seven. 398 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: All right, last group we'll take a look at, and 399 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: this is the sexy position. This is the wide receiver 400 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: tight end group. To show you the weapons that you 401 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier that Doug likes to have six, seven, eight 402 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: nine guys that he can work with. And obviously we 403 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: know what Kirk and Agnew and Zay Jones did last year. 404 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram had that huge year. Now you bringing a 405 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: guy like Brenton Strange that we've talked about in Parker Washington, 406 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: who is a slot guy with run after the catchability, 407 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: had made some tremendous catches in that Ohio State game 408 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: when Penn State played them last year. You've got some 409 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: interesting guy. Tim Jones's a guy last year we watched 410 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: really come on strong in August and just didn't get 411 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: his opportunities because of Kirk and Zay and Evan. 412 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 2: You got some guys you can work with there. Yeah. 413 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley now in that graphic either pretty good too. 414 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 6: But what strikes you hear? 415 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: For me? We have talked about Kirk. 416 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 6: And Ridley and Zay Jones and Ingram a lot. We've 417 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 6: even talked about a strange coming and being a supplement. 418 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: It feels like. 419 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 6: Parker Washington, Tim Jones, somebody out of that group. 420 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: They were really healthy in this spot last year. 421 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 6: Their receivers, none of them missed any significant time. 422 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: They were always and they always felt pretty full. 423 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 3: Go. 424 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: Parker Washington is interesting. 425 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 6: On that front because he's a run after catch guy. 426 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 6: He can do some things. I think my spidy sense 427 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 6: tells me, Brian, they're gonna need somebody in that group 428 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 6: to sort of step up and be a surprise guy 429 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 6: this year. So that's something to watch. Tim Jones, Parker Washington, 430 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 6: somewhere in that group. I don't know that you can 431 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 6: count on full health all the time out of that bunch. 432 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for a look around the 433 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: roster immediately following the draft. When we come back, we 434 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: jump into the Ozone mail Bag and give you a 435 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: look at what John is answering this week in the 436 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: column back after this on Drag's Drivetime. 437 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 5: We just wanted to add good football players you never 438 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 5: go wrong, and and guys that love to play the game, 439 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 5: that are smart, you know, competent guys that you know versatility. 440 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 5: We use that word a lot, but a lot of 441 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 5: the guys you can see as we add these pieces, 442 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 5: they have versatility. And when you only have fifty three 443 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 5: guys on a roster, you need that. You know, this 444 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 5: isn't college where you turn around and you got fifty 445 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 5: seven guys that are sixty seventy guys to choose from. Well, 446 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 5: the other ones are out on the field or more. 447 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 5: You've got fifty three and only forty eight on game days. 448 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 5: So the more they can do, the better. But you know, 449 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 5: we're excited for this group to get them in here 450 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 5: and just get our hands on them and see exactly 451 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 5: what we got and let them show us what they 452 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 5: can do. 453 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: This and Fritz OpenD time for the Ozone mail Bag 454 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 4: here on Jaggs Drive Time, Brian Sexton, John Ozer, let's 455 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 4: get right to it. 456 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: Tony joins us from John's Creek, Georgia. And since I said, 457 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson's master plan is to outscore 458 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: their opponents. 459 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's uh, it's been fairly obvious even last year. 460 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: That was a little bit of their thought. 461 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 6: Again, I think the good teams in the draft, and 462 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 6: I think Trent drafts very very well along these lines 463 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 6: they do with the draft come to them, and to 464 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 6: a degree, you let the quality of player you get 465 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 6: a little bit dictate the direction of the franchise because 466 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 6: you want good players. So I don't think the Jaguars 467 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 6: went into this draft saying we are going to get 468 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 6: more dynamic on offense. But I think on their board 469 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 6: they left room for that possibility, if that makes sense 470 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 6: that I'm saying it. So, I think when it fell 471 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 6: to him, they had zero problems saying, you know what, 472 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 6: we could go tight end or say second round, we 473 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 6: could go tight end or edge rusher here, Well, who 474 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 6: do we trust more to be a really good player? Well, 475 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 6: the tight end, well, then there's no problem with sort 476 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 6: of push and forward with that manpower. Same with the 477 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 6: running back you know a lot of teams philosophically may 478 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 6: not have done that. Hey we have a starter right back. 479 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 6: We don't need that. Well Doug saying, hey, I can 480 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 6: use this guy. 481 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: This is fine. We'll get a lot better here. 482 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 6: And so I think the end result is, I do 483 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 6: think you have a team right now that looks like 484 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 6: it's going to try to get to thirty one every 485 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 6: week and assume that our defense is going to stop 486 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 6: you enough where you don't get to thirty one. 487 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: Well, Daniel Jeremiah last week at the draft told me 488 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: he calls it the Patrick Mahomes effect. Right, you're not 489 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: going to shut down Patrick Mahomes, no one has. 490 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: What you hope to do is break serve two or. 491 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: Three times in the second half, and your offense then 492 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: has to be ready to go and score because you've 493 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: got to score one more than they do. And when 494 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: he looked at the Jaguars roster, he said, tight end 495 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: is a big need for them because it's one more 496 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: thing that will open up Calvin Ridley, it'll open up 497 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: Zay Jones, it'll open up Christian Kirk, his philosophic philosophies, 498 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: philosophical bend for the Jaguars from his perspective was find 499 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: ways to score one more than Kansas City. All right, 500 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: up next JT from Palm Coast. He says, the AFC South, 501 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: it's going to look extremely different with all new quarterbacks. 502 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: Funny how Lawrence is the elder statesman. This is going 503 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: to be our division for the foreseeable future. 504 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: Well, JT is confident. 505 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's uh And you know, on on paper, 506 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 6: the Jaguars would be the favorite, and they're deserved. 507 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: They fade, they won the division last year. 508 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 6: They have the veteran quarterback and they have the most 509 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 6: dynamic you know in the AFC right now, it's it's 510 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 6: it's a conference of quarterbacks really except in the AFC 511 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 6: South outside Trevor Lawrence. So yes, on paper, they should 512 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 6: own the division. You have to go in, you know. 513 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 6: My My counter to that is always they needed a 514 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 6: fumble return for a touchdown to own it last year. 515 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 6: So let's not anoint them champions for the next five 516 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 6: years until they do it for a couple of years. 517 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: So, but your on board with them being favored because 518 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: I read and I heard they have for people saying 519 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: that there's no reason why the Texans and the Colts 520 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: and the wide open division. I don't see it as 521 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: wide open with the leaning on rookie quarterbacks in all 522 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: three other cities. 523 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean, if. 524 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 6: I'm mister cautious and you have to win it on 525 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 6: the field, But if you're analyzing this division on paper, 526 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 6: if you look at this Jaguars offense, adding Ridley and 527 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 6: adding to what was already very good, it's hard for 528 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 6: me to imagine a twenty four point offense last year. 529 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 6: It's hard to imagine this not being a twenty six 530 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 6: or twenty seven point game offense. I don't know that 531 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 6: the other teams in the AFC South look right now 532 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 6: like they are going to be dynamic on that level. 533 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: He's rebuilt their offensive line, and you don't know whether 534 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: Tannehill's the guy or not. They certainly didn't want him 535 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: necessarily to be. At the end of last year. They 536 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: were looking to move on. I think the Colts have 537 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: a very talented roster, although it massively underperformed on the 538 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: offensive line last year. 539 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, the avitsive line is we'll see what it was 540 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 6: two or three years ago. 541 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: Look, and Houston's young. Houston is relying on a lot 542 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: of young guys you always. 543 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 6: It's never done until you win. But it's hard to 544 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 6: look at the division objectively and not say this team 545 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 6: is a favorite. 546 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 547 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: Finally, Jason from North Pole, Alaska, of our three offensive tackles, 548 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, Walker Little and Anton Harrison, which do you 549 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: think is most likely to finish the year starting at 550 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: left guard? 551 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 6: When I answered this in print, Remember print, Bryan, you 552 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 6: said print newspapers. 553 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: I say, I remember the old days of Jaguars inside reports. 554 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 6: When I answered this in the nether world of the web, 555 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 6: I went with Harrison because he's the rookie, and I 556 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 6: can see a scenario cams out weeks and they say, 557 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 6: you know what, Cam's a left tackle. He's been a 558 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 6: left tackle for six years. We're going to trust what 559 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 6: we've had. We're gonna trust Walker Little. But it's it's 560 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 6: really a moving part situation because I don't know a 561 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 6: Walker Little left tackle. That's all he's really played in 562 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 6: the NFL, and that's supposed to where he's vest. It's 563 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 6: really all Cam's ever played in the NFL. And then 564 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 6: it's also Antoine, I mean Anton Harrison, it's what he 565 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 6: played in college. So you sort of have three guys 566 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 6: who were who If they're sitting in coach's office and 567 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 6: you ask those guys where are you most comfortable, they're 568 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 6: all gonna say left tackle. So there's no real logical 569 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: slotting to that. I went with Harrison. I could see 570 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 6: it being camp. 571 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 572 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: The more I think about it, the more I think 573 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: it's camp because he's not in your long term plan. 574 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 2: I mean, no, they haven't said that. By the way. 575 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: That's we're all assuming looking at his cap number and 576 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: the fact that they have drafted little in Harrison, it's 577 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: a logical assumption. I would think that would be camp. 578 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: But that's only because if it's me, I want the 579 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: guy who's going to be my starter at left tackle 580 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: and at right tackle in twenty twenty four playing there 581 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. 582 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 6: That scenario, if we're sitting in the bar arguing about it, 583 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 6: that scenario makes a lot of sense. If I countered with, well, 584 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 6: wouldn't you just stick with the veterans outside and move 585 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 6: the rookie inside for a year, you'd probably say, well, 586 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 6: that makes sense too, So you know, I think it's 587 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 6: a coin flip. I can kind of see both sides 588 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 6: of it on that front. 589 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: All right, we'll come back and wrap up JAG's drive 590 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: time on a Tuesday morning from TIAA Bank Field in Jacksonville. 591 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: Right up through this. 592 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap things up here on a Tuesday 593 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: morning and a lot going on. 594 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: You look at it. 595 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: The rookie Mini camps next week eleventh through the thirteenth, 596 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: so the players will be here again rookie Mini camp 597 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: since Fowler junior towards ACL back in twenty fifteen. It's 598 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: not it's not mini camp as much as it is 599 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: bring him in, get him used to how the week roles. 600 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: Get him out on the field. Because they've been going 601 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: through John this draft evaluation process. They've not been football 602 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: players as much as athletes trying to hit numbers. So 603 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: you want to get them loose, get him relaxed, and 604 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: get them to understand what it's like being a professional. 605 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 6: This is an easy thing for Doug because he played. 606 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 6: Teams have figured out that the gain of rookie Mini camp, 607 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: meaning hey, let's go out and hit, let's go out 608 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 6: and do pass rush drills worth doing that in May. 609 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 6: What in the world is that going to benefit a 610 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 6: guy in August, especially when they're playing against you know, 611 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 6: you get the number one draft pick playing against a 612 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 6: defensive end from you know who's trying to prove himself. 613 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: There's there's this very high whatever risk there is, there's 614 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 6: no reward to it. 615 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: Now. 616 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 6: Doug did a little more, as I recall, a little 617 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 6: more than what Maron did when he was here, I think, 618 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 6: but the less the better on that front. 619 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: This week also coming next week also and we've heard 620 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: different dates, but it's looking like the schedule will be 621 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: released next week. 622 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: We heard the twelfth at one point. 623 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: Now we're hearing the eleventh, but it is likely to 624 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: pop next week, so we'll get a chance to see 625 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: how it all plays out. The twenty second is when 626 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: OTAs get going, so we'll see the veterans on the 627 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: field deck then and then of course tomorrow night. Coming 628 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: back to this week, Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, I 629 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: know you love that show, and Happy Hours on Thursday 630 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: with JP and Jeff. We'll be here all right for 631 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: John Osier and Joe Fortunato and Brent Reeber and David 632 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: Shoe and our entire broadcast crew. 633 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us here. 634 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: We'll be back next Tuesday with another edition of Jags 635 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: Drive Time.