1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Ron Anian. Sometimes it's the little things that lead to 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: the bigger things that lead to the moments of the 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: car Doctor. At the top of the coil would just 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: sparking everywhere. I took an old plastic pop bottle, cut 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: the top on it, put it over the top of 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: that coil, and it quits sparking and down the road. 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: I went, yeah, and I remember those days, and I 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: appreciate you doing that. Welcome to the radio home of 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, since this is where 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: at eight five five and now he running. It started 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: out like a simple problem. It was an O nine 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Honda Pilot that came into the shop this week. That 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: was a victim of coronavirus. No, no kidden it. It 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: had sat too long. It was two and a half 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: months in quarantine. The brake rotors had rusted. Gee, where 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: did you hear that before that that was gonna happen 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: and it needed breaks. The rear calipers were frozen and 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: it needed four wheel brakes, four wheel brakes, pads, rotors. 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 1: The rear calipers were shot, so we overhauled the brake system. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: Couldn't really drive the vehicle. That's how bad the things 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: were grinding away and the top. It all off to 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: d insult to injury. The owner had a jump started 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: because what else was bad? The battery wented. Okay, so 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: you do your thing, you jump started, you charge the 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: battery for them. You figure out that the battery will survive. 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: It just needed a good charge. We put a charge in. 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: It got to use that new associated battery charge of 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: the latest one. They just sent us with the calculated load, 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: and A calculated that that thing is sexy for a 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: battery charger, and had a good time. I'm starting to 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: really enjoy charging batteries. It's a it's neat. And we 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: were done and then I noticed, hey, you know what 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: it needs. It needs inspection. It's due for inspection in May. 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: This is May. Hey, you know what it's got a 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: week ago, let's inspect it for them. That's when the 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: problem started. Now this truck ran normal, This this little suv, 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: this pilot ran normally. To look at it, you would 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: think like, yeah, it's gonna go right through inspection now 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: because of the dead battery, we had to run monitors. 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Monitors are the self tests that cars go through. It's 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: it's the act of the computer testing itself to verify 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: that its components are are savvy and capable of inspection, 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: and it's running monitors to completion and as long as 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: they passed, they are not setting any fault codes, the 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: vehicle will then pass state inspection. In New Jersey, New 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: York and most other states that have O b D 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: two level inspections, there were seven monitors that had a run. 52 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Five of them clicked right off boom, boom, boom and boom, 53 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: got down to the cat monitor and the evaporative emissions monitor. 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: Evaporative emissions is kind of like the bastard step child 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: at a at a father's day reunion. It's the one 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: nobody wants and wants to deal with. It's it's it's 57 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: the combination of um. It's just so hard to get 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: to run sometimes, so you don't really look for that 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: to happen, and you're you're not expecting that to happen. 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: In New Jersey. I can't speak for other states, although 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: I imagine it's similar. A two thousand non vehicle two 62 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: thousand nine vehicle has to have all the monitors complete 63 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: except for one, and usually that one is evapp. EVAP 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: just takes a long time to run under under the 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: right exact conditions. So I'm stuck with having to get 66 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: the cat monitor to go on what appears to be 67 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: an otherwise healthy vehicle. How hard could it be? So 68 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: I start driving. I go out from my traditional my 69 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: my twenty two minute road test. I go up Crescent 70 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: down seventeen South. I mean, I've got the whole loop. 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: It's it's, it's it's in my head. I've been doing 72 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: it for thirty years. From this location. Put it on 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: cruise control, set cruise, and I find I find running 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: monitors on cruise control out on the highway. Sometimes it's 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: helpful because it's it's the cruise control is more consistent 76 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: than I and I ran cruised nothing monitors wouldn't go. 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: And I went through this procedure twice. Were the first time. 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I was a little too fast. Yeah, there was 79 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of traffic, not that there's a lot 80 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: of traffic on the roads lately. I'll try it again. 81 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: I try it again. That didn't work. Okay, Now I've 82 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: got to diagnose why the CAT monitor won't go on 83 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: the vehicle that we're definitely fixing because it's only got 84 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: eighty thousand miles on it and we just put a 85 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of brakes in it. Customers not getting 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: rid of this. So I go back and I look, well, 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: there's no code. So now we have to begin what 88 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: do I always tell you guys? I tell you that 89 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 1: we have to you have to begin a no code 90 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: fault diagnosis. You've got to start to look at the numbers. 91 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: What's keeping this CAT monitor from running well? Cat monitors 92 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: are a measurement of efficiency, how well does it oxidize 93 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: down and reduce the pollutant level of what's coming in 94 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: versus what's going out. And one of the major major 95 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: parameter is one of the things that the system looks 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: at is it looks at fuel trim. I looked at 97 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: fuel trim. What do I always tell you, right, the 98 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: magic number, it's rule. This car's total fuel trim was 99 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: twenty three too high. It's too much fuel trim. And 100 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: my theory in my head as I sat and formulated 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: it was that high fuel trim is going to prevent 102 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: the cat monitor from running because the computer can't trust 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: a vehicle with high fuel trim because it doesn't know 104 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: some other extenuating factors. It's it's calculating out based on 105 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: its software, where it's supposed to be and what it 106 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: expects it to do, and it's not liking it because 107 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: fuel trims are so high. So something is skewing fuel trim. 108 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: Now I've got to go and diagnose that. Now, some 109 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: of this is theoretical. Some of this is a gut call, 110 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: and as a mechanic, I think, uh, you know, this 111 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: is what you have to do at times. It's not guessing. 112 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: It's it's we're gonna call it educated guessing. It's theory. 113 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: You've got to get down into the theory of why 114 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: a car operates like it does. Well. There's a couple 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: of factors to look at on fuel trim. One is 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: is fuel trim high or low at idle, and the 117 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: cruise is at one or the other. In this case, 118 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: it was high all the time something was driving fuel. 119 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: In other words, the computers saw a lean condition where 120 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: it was adding more fuel to the mixture than what 121 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: it's based programming allowed. This car has a mass airflow sensor, 122 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: it has a map sensor, it has to air fuel 123 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: ratio sensors or the prime suspects. I looked for vacuum leaks, 124 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: even though I didn't think there were going to be any, 125 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: because it was high a vidal as well. If it 126 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: was high. If if fuel trim is high only at idle, 127 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: meaning it's adding fuel at idle, chances are you got 128 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: a vacuum leak. All right, um, you know whereas off 129 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: idle the computer can kind of cover up for that 130 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: and bring fuel trim down. Not in every case, but 131 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: just as a general rule of thumb. Mass airflow was 132 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: my choice, my my bottom line. It's got to be 133 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: because the vehicle sat and in the back of my mind, 134 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: I said, something happened to the mass air I wonder, 135 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: what's there debris mouse nest while I was close. So 136 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: when the spider fell out of the mass airflow sensor 137 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: a little tiny you know herman the spider um and 138 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: after after me or the spider, spider and I were 139 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: done shrieking at each other. Uh, you know, lately, I 140 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. My spider's chipmunks. I got 141 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: a chipmunk story for you later. And you know, clean 142 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: the mass air, the numbers changed. I saw my fuel 143 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: trim start to come down. It crept down under sixte 144 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: and the mass air flow grams per second actually went 145 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: up a half a point. And that's when I made 146 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: the gut call. I still couldn't get monitors to run. 147 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: I said, you know, fuel trims are still too high. 148 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Something contaminated this mass air. It's it's eleven years old, 149 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: it's two hundred bucks. Let's throw a mass air at 150 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: the car. It's time. There's no other way to test 151 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: this calculated load. All the other numbers were good, but 152 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: I know after cleaning it and getting rid of the 153 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: spider web, it changed. Put a mass airflow sensor in 154 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: the vehicle, and it was amazing how you could watch 155 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: the fuel trim numbers come down sixteen, fifteen, twelve, ten, 156 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: eight three. It hit five percent, it hit eight percent 157 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: total fuel trim, five percent, short term, three percent long term. 158 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: The cat monitor ran four minutes later out on the highway. 159 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: The power of deductive reasoning can never be overruled. You know, 160 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: don't sit there and say if you're trying to fix 161 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: the car. Hey, I've got no code, there's nothing wrong 162 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: with it. You've gotta look at the numbers. What does 163 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: a doctor do when you walk in for a for 164 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: a physical or an exam right heart rate, blood pressure, respiratory. 165 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: They start to go through that physical visual inventory, what 166 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: numbers out of kilter. You gotta learn to be an 167 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: out of kilter mechanic. You gotta learn to look for 168 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: what's probably staring you in the face and just not 169 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: ready to flag yet. Had this carbon driven another week? 170 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Maybe it was easier for me because I kind of 171 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: knew the car. It sat for two and a half months. 172 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: So I always think about animals and cars on a 173 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: vehicle that's sitting. But just be aware, just be aware, 174 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: look at fuel, trim, look for a problem. I found it, 175 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: cars fixed, done down the road, customers very happy. Repair 176 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: of the week. I just thought you'd like to hear 177 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: that that animals do some funny things to automobiles. Let's 178 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: get over and kick the garage doors wide open. Let's 179 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: go over to Alan, Maryland and get one in before 180 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: we go to the break and welcome to the car doctor, sir, 181 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: How can I help hi? Ron? Long time listener? I 182 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: learned stuffing from you every week. Thanks for five Nissan Sentra. 183 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: Went to crank, get to started this week, cracked for 184 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: a few seconds, and then all I got was this loud, 185 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: spinning sound, like the armature was spinning. What opinion wasn't 186 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: engaging the ring here? I've had starters failed before, but 187 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: it's usually the starter's dead. You just get the clicking sonoid? 188 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Is that a common failure with opinion quits and the 189 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: armature just spins it? Can I can't say that I 190 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: know it's it's common on CenTra is al, but I 191 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't read too much into it. I would I would 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: pull the starter out. I would crank the motor by hand, 193 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: look at the teeth of the flywheel, just to make 194 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: sure that you know you don't have a chipped spot 195 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: or a missing spot. You know. There's an article somewhere 196 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: an automotive history. If you google it you might find it. 197 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: The talks about how an engine, depending upon the number 198 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: of cylinders, stops in the same three or four places 199 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: every time when you shut it off. It was an 200 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: interesting theory about revolutions of the crank and the last 201 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: cylinder to fire, compression and where the engine stops when 202 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: you take away the ignition source, you know, when you 203 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: shut the engine off. So the article then we're not 204 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: to talk about how flywheels tend to always break in 205 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: similar places, which is why you have to look at 206 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: every tooth, not just look at half of it and say, yeah, 207 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: it's okay. But what I did do? Um I put 208 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: the king in the ignition and just you know, hit 209 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: the start for an instant and it did turn the crank. 210 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean you could see the belts move. Did that 211 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: a few times. So the opinion will engage the ring 212 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: gear and move the crank for at least an instant. 213 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: But apparently if you try to crank it, it releases, 214 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: so it fails under It fails under load of just 215 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: trying to crank it on a continuing spaces. That's what 216 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: it seems like. And it is certainly not the It 217 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: is certainly not the chain. I did worry about the 218 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: chain breaking because it has that sound of like, you know, 219 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: no compression. And um I did take the valves cover 220 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: off and the guides are fine. I rotated the engine, 221 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, through two revolutions or the cams rotate, so 222 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: it isn't Yeah, take take take take the starter out out. 223 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's go to the starter. Let's not 224 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: overcomplicate this. Let's go to the starter that that's making 225 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: the noise. Listen, if the chains broke, all right, if 226 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: the motor was hydrostatic locked, that starter should still try 227 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: and crank the end gen Alright, it doesn't. It doesn't 228 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: have a calibrated shutoff pop off value. All right, So 229 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: go ahead, and you know, change the starter. Pulled the 230 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: starter out, get a good replacement. Make sure it's something quality, 231 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: because it's not an easy spot on that vehicle. And 232 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll be fine. Don't forget to look at 233 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: the flywheel. What would you recommend for a replacement? I've 234 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: heard so many horror stories about half the market. Um, 235 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: you know. I would go in, do you have do 236 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: you have a what do you have for an order 237 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: parts store around you? I use Advanced Order for hard 238 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: ports and I've had good luck with them. Go go 239 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: in and ask them, Go in and ask them what 240 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: brand they carry that's gonna work well, that you that 241 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: they know isn't gonna give you grief, alright, accompanied by 242 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: the name of BBB. I can't remember what the stands 243 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: for which I believe took over Remy. Alright, Remy starters 244 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: have been taken over by BBB. They're they're doing rebuilding 245 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: now out of Arkansas or Alabama, I can't remember which 246 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: it is. And Barbara Barbara, Barbara Barbera. They've they've gotten better. 247 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: They had some issues, they're working on it to improve 248 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: their quality, and they've gotten better in the last couple 249 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: of years, the last couple of months. I'm sorry, and um, 250 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, but I would go And I always tell everybody, listen, 251 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: every brand is a little different. Talk to the guys 252 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: that are selling it and they'll be able to tell you, 253 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, hey, this works, we don't get it to 254 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: come back. It doesn't come back on a regular basis, 255 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: and so on. All right, sir, always always great. Listen 256 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: to you. You're very welcome, sir. You have a good weekend. 257 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the car doctor. I'll be back 258 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: right after this. Got I've got the number, got time 259 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: right it on the wall, so you don't forget to 260 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: call for a car advice. Done right? Eight five five 261 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: five zero zero zero. Now back to Ron. By the way, 262 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: this being Memorial Day weekend. The Memorial Day edition of 263 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Not this hour. Next hour, we're gonna 264 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: have memberies of Uncle Steve. We've got Uncle Steve um 265 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: in in Q and uh he lives on forever, thank god, 266 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: and he'll be with us down around the bottom of 267 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: the following hour, So you want to stick around for that. 268 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: By all means, let's get over and talk to Lee 269 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: in Vermont fifty. Lee, welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, 270 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: how can I help? Thank you for welcome me, and 271 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: glad to be back. Good to hear you again, and 272 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: good to hear Uncle Steve will be on. I've been 273 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: wondering about him. He's quite a man, and he's sure 274 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: to listen the whole show tomorrow and it's broadcast Jaron Vermont. Anyway, anyway, 275 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: it's funny last week you mentioned about your friends f 276 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: two fifty with a shimmy in the front end. A 277 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: couple of days later I got noticed from Ford on that. 278 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, and that and and that's a chronic problem 279 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: for them, Lee. You know, Ford's got their issues with 280 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: that right now, so uh, you know, just be aware 281 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: there that's still a work in progress. That fixed. So 282 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that whatever they're doing right now is 283 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: going to actually fix it, but they'll get it. It's 284 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: just gonna it's it's still not right. So I think 285 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a redesign of the F two fifty 286 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: f three fifty front suspensions as a result. So, um 287 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: your question, I'm looking at the nineteen or I'm sorry, 288 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: at a twenty f three fifty because we tell a trailer, 289 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: we tell a thirty five ft fifth wheel and with 290 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: a six two. And when I bought the six two, 291 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: I didn't have another eight thousand dollars to spend for diesel, 292 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: and I'm figuring, why do I need to pounds at 293 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: torque now? With the new UH seven three And everything 294 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: that I'm reading is really positive on the engine. But 295 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: like you new new engine first year, how many bugs 296 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: are in it that they need to work out? Right? 297 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: You ever, do you ever go to a restaurant when 298 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: they first open? No, I got more sense than that, 299 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: the same thing, different idea. You know, it's you always 300 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: you always wait for them to work the bugs out, 301 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: No pun intended. And listen, some restaurants are great the 302 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: first year they open, and some of them are a 303 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: real disaster. But it's it always seems to be that cars, 304 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: that first year is really a roll of the dice. 305 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: And I just think that, unless you're desperate and you 306 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: have to, I would wait six months a year. I 307 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: can't see, you know, that that first year as the 308 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: year the engineers are well, let's try this and see 309 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: if this works. You know, I can't see that it's really, 310 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, a tried and true because unfortunately companies today, 311 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: not just Ford, but a lot of companies today, and 312 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: not just automobiles, they use the public as the test bid. 313 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: How well will this work? How well will that work? 314 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: I can think of a fuel tool comp a few 315 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: tool companies that have done that and still continue to 316 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: do that to this day. My issue with that truck, 317 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: with the new seven three, as I pointed out last week, 318 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: was it's new and it'll probably be okay. But the 319 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: idea of the ten speed transmission is what got me. 320 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: I you know, to me, we we've just we sure 321 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: have overcomplicated the trans mission and I can't see how 322 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: that trans is gonna have any durability to hold up 323 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: because we've given it so many options and choices on 324 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: where it should shift and when it should shift. In 325 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: the power of electronics, it'll probably be great for the 326 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: first eight hundred thousand miles, lely, but you know that 327 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: vehicle has got to be grand the one I'm looking at, 328 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: which is uh a Lariat about sixty four. Okay, so 329 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: you're getting the cheap one. Ha ha ha. You know, um, 330 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: you know it's got to be recking to a couple 331 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: of dealer dealers now, and one want to look at 332 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: the sport package and it's really pretty neat with the 333 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: blacked out stuff. Because I'm not a big chrome guy, 334 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: and I won't get the chrome package, but that that 335 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: jumped it up about three thousand dollars. What I would 336 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: do is the same same answer as I gave last week. 337 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: I think before I went out, you gotta go drive it. Okay, 338 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: you've gotta be driving. You've gotta go driving F three fifty. 339 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: You almost have to toe with it and say, I look, 340 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: I want to go tell my trailer. I want to 341 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: see what it feels like, all right by By the 342 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: same token, I would also go get a am, a 343 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: Chevy pickup and toe with that and see how they handle. Nothing. 344 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: Nothing says here's how it's gonna work. Then going for 345 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: a full blown actual road test, and I think that's 346 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: where you want to be, and that's what you want 347 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: to do for the kind of money you're gonna spend. 348 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna have that truck at least six to eight years. 349 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: You might as well know what you're getting into before 350 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: you get there. Good luckily, let me know what you 351 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: end up doing. I'm on ay and the Guard Doctor. 352 00:18:38,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back. We're naming the 353 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: Car Doctor eight five five five zero zero zero. The 354 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: phone number seven. That number is eight five five five 355 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Call leave a message. 356 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: If we're not on the air, Tom Ray, executive producer, 357 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: will call you back and get you in the next 358 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: live broadcast. As we are live on the network Saturday 359 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: afternoons to to four pm East Coast time. And uh, 360 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: you know we'd love to talk to you. So let's 361 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Scott in Ohio Autie and 362 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: some questions about tire size. Scott, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 363 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: How can I help Hey? I was wondering it's got 364 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: a two thousand, sixteen eight four all road. It rise 365 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: pretty rough with the forty five series tires that are 366 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: on it, right, Yeah, not not enough side wall not 367 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: enough sidewall, there's there's no more and tearing out a rim. Right, 368 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: Can we go to fifty or fifty five series tires? 369 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Leave the WI the same with that hinder anything in 370 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: the electronics or any issues with the way the car operates. Yeah, 371 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: I never like to answer that question without adding this 372 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: to it. I get, I get what you're trying to do. 373 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: And the answer is you wouldn't know until you try. 374 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't try unless you know you can reprogram 375 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: all the computers that need to be programmed with the 376 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: correct profile. So as in right now, it's spidometer is 377 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: off about three miles an hour at highway speed. It 378 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: reads street fast right now? Is have you already changed? 379 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Have you already changed the tires? No, it's factory that way. 380 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: I have a Toyota truck does the same thing. I 381 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: bought it. It reads about three miles an hour faster 382 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: than actual is it? Is it a least car Scott Scott, No, 383 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: we've purchased it out, okay, just I always worry about 384 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: that because if it's a lease and you're rolling up 385 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: miles three miles an hour faster than you know, you 386 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: always think I always think about that you know if 387 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: you can you know, so the spiedometers off calibration, how 388 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: do you know that? By the way, using a GPS 389 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: okay um, may or may not be. You may want 390 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: to go out to the highway just for giggles, find 391 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: a mile mark or do sixty clock it to a 392 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: minute and see where it stands. I find gps is 393 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: have leg they're they're not dead stock accurate. So but anyway, regardless, 394 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: you know you have to do you have an auty 395 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: mechanic or do you go to a dealer dealer okay um, 396 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: it's a dealer question. Can he reprogram that to a 397 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: different tire size, because if the option isn't in there, 398 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: then it's a gamble. For word will probably be twelve 399 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: to fifteen d allars worth of tires as calibrated some 400 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: other No, it'll be it'll it'll go into it'll go 401 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: into anti lock breaks, it'll go into traction control, it 402 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: could go into how the transmission shifts. It could go 403 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: into how the engine itself operates and make make Oh. Yeah, 404 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of factors that determine you know, when 405 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: and where and how things happen, and that begins with 406 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: tire size with you know, accurate spirometer information or accurate 407 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: speed information. That's why I think the spirometer being off 408 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: is unless you had a specific issue with the vehicle. 409 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: If told me fuel economy was bad, or the transhifted funny, 410 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: or you know, there was there was something else about 411 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: the vehicle that was off. That's one of those. That's 412 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: that's Ah, it's not gonna set a trouble code, but 413 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: it's enough of a of a of a percentage change 414 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: off of the base number for parameters that the computer 415 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: is gonna look at it and say something's cock gut 416 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: and it's just not going to run as good as 417 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: it should. So you know, think of it now. The 418 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: other thing you can think about is and think about this. 419 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: You're probably not the first guy to complain about this. 420 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: Have you been in any of the OUTI forums online 421 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: to see what everybody else is saying. They're trying to do. No, 422 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: not yet, it's just coming up for a set of 423 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: tires like we did it to our We had a 424 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: No five x three and it didn't have any problem 425 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: to change entire sizes with that for with or height 426 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: that didn't have a whole lot of electronics on board 427 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: back then it's no five right, yeah, I mean yeah, 428 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: compared to today, because today the cars are just rocket ships. 429 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: I just had this conversation with someone yesterday. He had 430 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: he has an O four GMC Envoy with thousand miles 431 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: on and he's made the decision to keep it because 432 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's a good running vehicle. It's just got miles. 433 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna put some money in it. We're gonna change 434 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: some you know, you know, wheel bearings and other things, 435 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: rotating electrical that we know that. You know, it's got 436 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: a hundred forty and fifteen years old. It's time. And 437 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: he said, you know, I'd rather I'd rather put money 438 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: into this. If I spend ten grand to put this 439 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: together versus sixty to get a replacement vehicle that's still 440 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: fifty grand, and it's less electronics and the electronics or 441 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: what goes bad, we can we can build a heck 442 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: of an engine and transmission. In the automotive industry today, 443 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: it's the electronics that sit on top of it that 444 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: that seems to be the bigger problem that they're still 445 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: trying to solve. So so the answer to the question is, yes, 446 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: you can do it, only if things can be programmed 447 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: in the event that you need to, so go to 448 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: the dealer first and ask questions. Has anybody because you're 449 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: not the first guy to think of this, and you 450 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: know you you definitely won't be the last, and the 451 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: dealer is gonna have that answer. Can it be programmed? 452 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: For example, I Chevy plow truck that, uh, you know, 453 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: my old one, even my new one. I can go 454 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: in and I can reprogram tire size. I can reprogram 455 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: tire pressure for sensors. I can reprogram if I change 456 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: the rear axle for gear ratio. So there are programmable 457 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: parameters using the correct scan tool in all vehicles. It 458 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be you know, it doesn't have to 459 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: be exotic German. You know it's there, but it's just 460 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: it's the capability of what the engineer allows when they 461 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: release the car, when they build the software, when they 462 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: put it together before it rolls out of the factory door. 463 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, you're very welcome, very welcome, Scott. 464 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: You take good care. By way, Let's get out over 465 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk to Ron and New Hampshire. Ron, welcome to 466 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, How can I help? How are 467 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: you run? I'm good? An overheating job. Okay, what are 468 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: we trying to fix the I have a four leader 469 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: that's overheating. What kind of what? Well, it's a Bronco too, 470 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: but I have a forward four leader in it overhead 471 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: balt all right. So anyway, going down the highway at 472 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: seventy plus miles an hour, and yesterday it was like 473 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: eighty two degrees here it started. The temper just started climbing. 474 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: I can't put the A C on or I'll pin 475 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: the the temperature gauge. All right, So let's back up 476 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: a second. This is a ninety this is this is 477 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: a what year Bronco nine? This is a ninety Bronco 478 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: with a ninety four engine in it? Correct? Alright? What 479 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: engine was in the ninety originally two point nine d 480 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: V six all right, so it was a smaller engine, 481 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: less coolant capacity. I have a dual core aluminum radiator. 482 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: I put in this to help cool it down. I 483 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: do a lot of operating with it, so I needed 484 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: something a little bit beefier to handle the Uh. You know, 485 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: there's and I have an electric san on it now, 486 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: high capacity electric fan. Um. When did you put the 487 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: electric fan on? Uh? When I put it in. That 488 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: was about five years ago, all right, so it's been 489 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: running good for a while. This isn't something new that 490 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: just occurred. No, it's I guess I started last year. Dad, Suddenly, 491 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: I when I had especially what I did, put the 492 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: A C on, it would start overheat. Right, what thermostat 493 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: is in this run? It's all right? So let me ask, 494 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: let me, let me just lay this out so I 495 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: get it clear in my head. You've got a Bronco 496 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: too with a nine four leader that's been running good 497 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: for whatever combination of parts you've got for about three 498 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: three and a half years. In the last summer it 499 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: started to overheat. That's when I really started to notice that. Yeah, 500 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: all right, So if you're sitting at idle with the 501 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: air conditioning on, does the car overheat? No? All right, 502 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: so I can't. I I'd have to rule out of 503 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: stat all right. I mean, I still want to look 504 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: at things with a heat gun upper hose, lower hose hot, cold, 505 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: you know, equal temperature and so on. Is it is 506 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: it possible we've got a water pumping peller slipping? It 507 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: could be? Um. I was thinking about that. I was 508 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: thinking about cavitation, and I was thinking thinking about eating 509 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: up the piller on the on the water pump, right, 510 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: and is it I have another good heead? No, I 511 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: do have another. I'm doing uh some work to it 512 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: later on this summer. I'm gonna poly engine and put 513 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: a new water pump in it, put a high capacity 514 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: uh oil pump in it, and putting new head gaskets 515 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: in it because I use the old bolts and the 516 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: heads and I shouldn't know, so I just wanted to 517 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: change that over uh sence, gonna hold the gasket down harder. 518 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: Why are you going to change the oil pump? My 519 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: old practice around five on a good day on a 520 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: cold day, but it goes down to go around thirty 521 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: seven on a hawk day. Do you know what determines 522 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: oil pressure? Yeah, if your bearings are seated properly. So 523 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that a higher pressure pump is really 524 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna I mean, listen, brother, do whatever you want. Um 525 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, but I don't know that. And and the 526 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: reason I'm hesitant to change the oil pump is because 527 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: you're taking it out. You're gonna do head gas gets 528 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: a water pump and an oil pump, and then when 529 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: you call me back in six months and have two 530 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: different problems for the three parts that you changed. We 531 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: haven't solved the first one yet, you know, are you. 532 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: Let's let's click right, let's let's let's let's let's not 533 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: unravel the Let's not unravel the problem any deeper than 534 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: we have to. I would do two things. I would 535 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: consider taking the radiator out and having it checked for flow. 536 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: Could I have a restriction in the radiator unless you 537 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: can do it, unless you have a thermal imager or 538 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: some sort of a heat gun that's accurate that will 539 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: show restriction. Because I'm thinking about the speed you're traveling at, 540 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, highway speed, and it's starting to boil over. 541 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: Do you do you have an issue with circulation? And 542 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: then once you've established yes, the pump is good, the 543 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: the hoses aren't collapsing for some reason, radiator caps good, 544 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: the basics, I'd have to pull the pump off and 545 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: take a look. Do I have a Do I have 546 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: a cavitation or an impeller issue? And then we can 547 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: talk about right, and then we can then we can 548 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: talk about head gas gets and oil pumps and all 549 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: the things that you know make ron giggle in the 550 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: middle of the night. I can leave anything along run. 551 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm probably allowed. Like you, brother, I get it, I 552 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: get it. But you know what, remember this. I learned 553 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: this when I was sixteen. Billy taught it to me 554 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: in the gas station. Mild goes wild. I never forgot that, 555 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: and you know, keep it simple, mild goes Wild. Go 556 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: take a look at the pump of the radiator. Call 557 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: me back, let me know what you find. We'll talk 558 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: later this summer. All right, you take good care. I'm 559 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: not any in the car doctor. We're back right after 560 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: this second. Welcome back. Why don't any of the car doctor, 561 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: Let's get down Louisiana Way talk to Kenny about his 562 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: thirteen gmc kenny. Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how 563 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: can I help hi? Ron? Thank you very much for 564 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: my truck has a hundred seventy thousand miles on it's transmission. 565 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: It's never been service. So my question is at this point, 566 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: can I still have it flushed down? Or I would 567 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: change it. I would change the fluid a hundred and 568 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: seven thousand miles, you said, Kenny, seventy, So let's think 569 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 1: of it like this. At a buck seventy chances are 570 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: you gonna put a trans in it anyway, agreed, okay, 571 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: exhibiting any signs, any operating conditions, anything that makes you 572 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: be concerned, No, nothing at all. Truck is really great, 573 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: then much take everything out of the way. And it 574 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: was just like, okay, you know, you keep putting it 575 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: off because you don't have the money. Got the money, 576 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: I got the time, and I'm trying to make up 577 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: for okay, So you know, think of it like this, 578 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: And this is just one mechanics perspective. And also a 579 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: father of three, whenever we went on vacation, I kind 580 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: of wanted to know when the problem was going to 581 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: happen before it happened. So I would always certain not 582 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: that I well, there was probably a couple of times 583 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: I serviced the car late with my Kiden, right, and 584 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: I always tell I always tell everybody listen, at least 585 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: if you service the trans now you're watching for it 586 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: and you're prepared for it. So what I would do 587 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: is I would have somebody service it. Um as far 588 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: as if you've got a local trans shop, if he 589 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: is going to rebuild the trans, A get a price 590 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: on rebuilding the trans. Hey, Kenny, it's gonna be three 591 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: grand to put a trans in this truck, and it's 592 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: gonna be three services. Okay, let's start with the service. 593 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: If that doesn't work, we'll put a trans in it. 594 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: At least he knows the vehicle at that point, he 595 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: knows what he's dealing with, and you kind of get 596 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: a feel for him if you've never gone to him before. 597 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: How does he handle this? You know, does he does? 598 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: He seem like he's willing to try the service before 599 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: he rebuilds the trans. A lot of guys look at 600 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: me when I like I'm crazy whenever I say this. 601 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: But the fact is, automatic transmissions work on hydraulic principle, 602 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: all right, very small orifices, very tiny ports. Transmission fluid 603 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: leads varnish and sentiment behind. The problem with changing fluid 604 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: on an older unit is lots of varnished, lots of crud. 605 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: That's why doing a fluid exchange, if he can find 606 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: the shop that's got a fluid trans machine where will 607 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: get everything out all right, is sometimes the way to go. 608 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: The danger is fresh trans fluid has a very high 609 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: detergency action. Will it wash all the crud off the wall? 610 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: But you know there's a there's a decent chance of survival. 611 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: Everyone I've ever serviced. I've never had a problem with 612 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: no not not to say, ten thousand miles later, it 613 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: doesn't fail, but it was due anyway. The question becomes, 614 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: can you afford it now or can you afford it 615 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: better in a year. And that's the question you gotta 616 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: ask the trans rebuilder. Go talk to him, Come back, 617 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: talk to me. I'm running nading. The car doctor will 618 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Hey, welcome back. Aren't any 619 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: of the car doctor? Um, if your car smells, Tom 620 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: Ray might be in norm only kid um recent reports. Sorry, Tom, 621 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: I had to jump in there with that one. Um, 622 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: there was a good there was a good segue for that. UM. 623 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of you know actually the 624 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: way it's a press release actually from the Car Care 625 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: Counsel and it says you're a nose NOS six warning 626 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: vehicle signs you can smell. And I thought, you know, 627 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: what if Tom's in the car and he just but 628 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: that was a bad jokes that I control your microphone. 629 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: I know pretty soon they'll hear nothing, but and that 630 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: could happen. So UM, but it's an interesting point. You know, 631 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: I never really thought about it. The Car Care Council 632 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: recommends a sniff test to your vehicle to identify any 633 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: unusual smells, including the following six warning signs. The smell 634 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: of burnt rubber could be slipping belts or misplaced hoses 635 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: that might be rubbing against the rotating accessories. The smell 636 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: of hot oil can be in oils leaking onto the 637 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: exhaust system, which actually is true. We actually had a 638 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: problem with a customer car this week where he picked 639 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: out the fact that the right side valve cover was 640 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: leaking because it had this tiny little drip of oil 641 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: getting onto the exhaust amount of fold we solved that. 642 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: The smell of gasoline, I think everybody's probably familiar with 643 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: this is the one that made me want to talk 644 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: about this. The smell of syrup. You know, if you 645 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: get that maple syrup kind of smells. We're getting into 646 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: the summer driving season. The engine may be leaking coolant. 647 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: And I've said this, I've said this story a hundred 648 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: times on the air. Never lift the hood when it's hot. 649 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 1: If you smell coolant or that sweet smell under the hood, 650 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: or if there's steam, listen if there's a smell, if 651 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: there's steam, if there's signs of coolant. You know what's 652 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: got a leak? What are you gonna do? Lift the 653 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: hood and risk exposing yourself to to something bad, something worse. 654 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you the story about the second 655 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: almost third degree burns I got as a kid lifting 656 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: the hood of a hot car, and I never forgot 657 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: it when the host burst. So it doesn't pay And 658 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: then the smell of rotten eggs is never a good one. 659 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: It may be a problem the catalytic converter is not 660 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: doing its job, or maybe it's overworking a problem, so 661 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: get a mechanic to check it out. Stay safe. More 662 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: information at carcare dot org. I'm not on any in 663 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: the car doctor, reminding you until the next time. Good 664 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you