WEBVTT - Surviving Addiction: A Path to Healing

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>story of survival, you were found outside and trash. An

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring conversation with my good friend Tommy Davidson. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>say mom saved your life? I just want to thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the reason why I'm here. Tommy is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most entertaining people you will ever meet. You may

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<v Speaker 1>recognize him from in Living color, dozens of movies, or

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<v Speaker 1>a stand up but behind his laughter was a world

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<v Speaker 1>of pain, one that I witnessed firsthand. And now he's

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<v Speaker 1>come to the Red Table to tell us how he

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<v Speaker 1>survived and thrived. He's a miracle. She shouldn't be here.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Girl? Are you? Absolutely? Absolutely? Because we're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go straight to the table. Don't start because I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're about to. I'm about to take when you

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<v Speaker 1>sent the campas with me? God, is this the Red Table?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Red Table, Tommy After comedian Tommy Davidson

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<v Speaker 1>has been a family friend for more than twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted him to come to the Red Table

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<v Speaker 1>to share his journey. It has been one of ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>survival against all odds. Tommy, I'm glad to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>glad to be there. Ye. Anticipating being here has been

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit hard for me because talking about this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I never did. You know. What's interesting is that I've

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<v Speaker 1>known your long time in aspect of your journey. That

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know was the beginning of your story. That

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<v Speaker 1>you were found outside in trash. So it was an

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned house. There's a woman she went in. There was

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but kids in there, doing drugs and drinking. But

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<v Speaker 1>when she was leaving, she said, something told me to

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<v Speaker 1>look under this tire that was in a pile of

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<v Speaker 1>trash next to the house. She said, When I moved

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<v Speaker 1>the tire, I saw your foot. When I moved to trash,

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<v Speaker 1>you were laying there right, had a torn red shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>I had contusions in my skull, like I've been hit

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<v Speaker 1>and starved. And were you close to death? Yeah? They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think I was gonna live. I was in a coma.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows how long I've been there. Dirty the stranger

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<v Speaker 1>who found baby Tommy in the trash was Barbara Gene Davidson,

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<v Speaker 1>a mother of two. As he clung to life in

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital, Barbara Jeane made a decision that would change

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<v Speaker 1>her life and his life forever. She adopted Tommy and

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<v Speaker 1>brought him home. My mom was my hero. She was

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<v Speaker 1>like the most fierce protector. He was welcomed by his

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<v Speaker 1>new brother Michael and sister Borrow, born just thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>days apart. Berlin Tommy were raised as twins and were inseparable.

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<v Speaker 1>We shared a room until we were like fourteen. Brill

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<v Speaker 1>is my rock. She's definitely my other half. They lived

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<v Speaker 1>in an all white town. Tommy felt like he belonged

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<v Speaker 1>from day one when she adopted you, this little black boy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's from wild How was it for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>her family bringing you into the fold. I never felt

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<v Speaker 1>for one minute that I was different at all interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I learned my colors from the crayons,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know brown brown was a brown cray and

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<v Speaker 1>my sister was peach. I thought I was a brown

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<v Speaker 1>one of whatever we were. Because I grew up on farms.

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<v Speaker 1>The horse would have a colt. The horse could be

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<v Speaker 1>a brown horse and have a black cult, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Or a dog can be a brown dog or a

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<v Speaker 1>white dog and have like a speckled one, have a

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<v Speaker 1>brown one, have a white one. So I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was a brown one of whatever we were. My grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>was the first one who started telling me about race.

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<v Speaker 1>He was trying to prepare you. I was playing with

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<v Speaker 1>my cowboys and Indians, and he said, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to know that the Indians of the heroes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want you to know that all cowboys didn't

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<v Speaker 1>kill Indians. I'm a cowboy, you know. And I was like, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that came out of my experience

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<v Speaker 1>is that all white people are not the same. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I got the d C, this is when we

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<v Speaker 1>all changed. Because we moved into d C. During the riots,

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<v Speaker 1>we king got shot and every day after school, grown

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<v Speaker 1>white men were chasing me home. I would barely get

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<v Speaker 1>in the house. How I was five people were throwing

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<v Speaker 1>in our window, shooting, and that's the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>heard the word nigger. It was crazy, and that really

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<v Speaker 1>heard me. Yeah, I mean that really really hurt me

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, no, what am I supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Two sides or something? Yeah, I don't know anything about this, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell? It was like a bomb went off

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<v Speaker 1>in my brain and I was somewhere playing and They're going,

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<v Speaker 1>get nigger, get them to white teenagers, chase me in.

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<v Speaker 1>These big black dudes came out. White boys went the

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<v Speaker 1>other way. And I've been black ever since. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the day. Yeah, that was the day. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they came out from nowhere, man, Man I said, yeah, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>I was said, man, I guess I am black. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me look at you, Let me look into this,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me look into this, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the moment that you that it stamped. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting that she moved the entire family too. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember we moved there. We had our little radio and

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<v Speaker 1>Ball of Confusion was playing. It could have been something

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<v Speaker 1>in a movie. And there's people moving in, people moving out. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all this color of the skin. Yeah, run run run

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<v Speaker 1>what do do do? Do Do? Do? Do do do do? Ball

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<v Speaker 1>of Confusion? I was like, where are we? Did she

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<v Speaker 1>ever explain to you why she did that? She made

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<v Speaker 1>sure that I was in the a black neighborhood, But

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<v Speaker 1>for my brother and sister, it was hard. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think deep inside my mother. You know she did that

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<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, black girls want to drop my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I had to fight them. And at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time I was like the hero of the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>because I could sing really good, like really good ever

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<v Speaker 1>since I was like five, So my mother would impress

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<v Speaker 1>her friends. You asked me, come over here, put me

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<v Speaker 1>on the table, take a spoon, put tend foil on it,

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<v Speaker 1>put on chain, chain, chain, respect, put on saying loud,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm black, and I'm proud, and you I'm doing a

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<v Speaker 1>Mustang and and and and doing the pony and killing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had sliding the family song, you know, get friends,

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<v Speaker 1>clokes for different folks and so on and so on,

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<v Speaker 1>and shoot be Dooby doo by Shy Shy where that

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<v Speaker 1>lived go? You know what I mean? Him every different.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like you had the coolest white mom. Oh yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>there there ain't there ain't no, there ain't no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about that. My mom said, Tommy, you have a way

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<v Speaker 1>of putting things that makes people happy so fast that

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<v Speaker 1>all they can do is laugh. But I never thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would lead to comedy. At two, Tommy went to

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<v Speaker 1>an amateur Mike Knight for the first time and killed it.

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<v Speaker 1>His career took off. Eventually, his talent caught the eye

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wayands Brothers, landing him a coveted role on

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<v Speaker 1>the iconic sketch series in Living Color. His dream of

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<v Speaker 1>making it big was fun of coming true. He went

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<v Speaker 1>on the Star and dozens of films and TV shows,

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<v Speaker 1>But despite all the money, fame, and star treatment, Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>was far from happy. Tommy and I did two movies together,

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<v Speaker 1>as you already know, Bamboozled and Will. Yeah, the first

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<v Speaker 1>time that we worked together. And I really got to

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<v Speaker 1>know you. On the set of Woo. I came out

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<v Speaker 1>for a scene and you looked at me, and you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, something's wrong with you? Like what you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Did she just get to work? You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>million people around doing stuff, gammer action, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, ain't that wrong? And she said, rung

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with you? And I was like to start the day.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, nah, she said, come here, what's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with you? I said, my my mother contacting my real mother,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know she was on the phone. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to talk to her, but I ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that. She said, oh really, Okay, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a wrap, everybody, that's the day. All right, you

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<v Speaker 1>go deal with that all right later. And it led

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<v Speaker 1>from our converse Asian to me finally meeting my biological mom.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was thirty eight years old, Tommy met his

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<v Speaker 1>birth mother for the first time all my life. I

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<v Speaker 1>was mad at her. I always would say, where are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of resentment and anger for her. Abandonedy,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy continued to channel his pain into his performances, and

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<v Speaker 1>then drugs led him to a tragic tipping point in

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<v Speaker 1>his life. In his book Living in Color, Tommy admits

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<v Speaker 1>that his addiction undid everything he accomplished and nearly killed

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<v Speaker 1>him one night at a girlfriend's house after oding on cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>Paramedics rushed him to the hospital with no clothes on,

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<v Speaker 1>strapped to a gurney. The fallout broken relationships with a

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<v Speaker 1>string of women and four of his children. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that got you into the heavier stuff? The

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<v Speaker 1>first time you get cocaine? I was sixteen. I gave

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<v Speaker 1>it to me. Everybody had it right at all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, Okay, I'm gonna try it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of dandy. Ain't nothing. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about it. And it just became one of the things,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things. Yeah, no, it became the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It got really really bad. You know, I lost a marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. You know, it was just it's just one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that just kept on going, kept on going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when Spike actually called my mother. He asked me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I went to him and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a hard time here. So he went on

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<v Speaker 1>and told me about his father, how his father was

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<v Speaker 1>strung out for years and what it did to his family.

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<v Speaker 1>And the main thing was to gather my strength. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a selfish motive. I need you in this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of all, you know, you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>okay for your family, for you. You were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of rehab. The whole world that I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was it wasn't. Yeah, because I had it all backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>See what I was thinking is is if I just

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<v Speaker 1>could be successful, if I just could get this right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking, you know, I'm gonna give me

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<v Speaker 1>an Oscar and Emmy and all that stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get that stuff. And they became that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get the house and have this and have the money

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<v Speaker 1>and have the then everything is gonna be cool. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would do that and then it would fall, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would do that, and then it will fall, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I would do that, and I couldn't understand why

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<v Speaker 1>why am I not making this connection? When I became

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to drugs, you know, I was a functioning addict

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<v Speaker 1>just the same. But those kinds of successes are the

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things that keep you in denial about who

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<v Speaker 1>you are and where you really are. Yeah, I call

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<v Speaker 1>it being a functional addict, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom. Yet, what was the point that you hit

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<v Speaker 1>your bond? In Philadelphia? I did a show. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going on stage that night. My talent was gone. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you mean by that? That thing that

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<v Speaker 1>came out of my mouth so naturally was gone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it was more than that. I wouldn't consider that

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<v Speaker 1>a bomb. What I would consider that is a solid message.

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<v Speaker 1>If I gave it to you, I can take it

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<v Speaker 1>from you now. Are you are on my team? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>He stripped you. And so that was in front of

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand people. The next Dad, I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a dog on a meeting, but I went

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a guy in there and he was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how he's going to the NFL and how

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<v Speaker 1>drinking and stuff like that. I took all of it

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<v Speaker 1>from him. What he said that got my attention was

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<v Speaker 1>he said, all my life, I thought that people were

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<v Speaker 1>stabbing me in my back. And I turned around to

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<v Speaker 1>see that I'm the one with a knife in my hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, it's me. It's me. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>if the white white ex wife for you do this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not if if you treat me right, It's not

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<v Speaker 1>if racism wasn't it were not. It was me. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you say, Mom saved your life? Right? And you called

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<v Speaker 1>me and I called you, and I was in Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>and you was like, Hey, what's up you are? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I'm all right. You said, hold

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<v Speaker 1>long the reinforcement, because by that time you had already

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<v Speaker 1>been exposed to the prom right. But it's the process,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that had to take had to take its hold,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I just want to thank you because

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<v Speaker 1>that saved my life. And that was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>many things that happened that that are the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here. Wow, when your mother passed, she could hardly talk,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and she's really worried about me all those years.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I was doing fine, but it was still

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<v Speaker 1>hard to really trust that I'm gonna be okay because

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<v Speaker 1>she's passing away now. In two thousand and six, Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>lost his beloved adoptive mother, the woman who rescued him

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<v Speaker 1>from the trash, to a rare form of cancer. When

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<v Speaker 1>my mom passed away, I realized that I am my

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<v Speaker 1>mother's greatest accomplishment. She shaped me, and she knew that

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<v Speaker 1>she was sending out into the world somebody who can

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<v Speaker 1>give love. And that's my purpose. So when I'm asked,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your greatest accomplishment, it's being Barbara Davidson's youngest son, Tommy.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing I did was seeing her, your mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and she just love. I sing, She's love. I can

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<v Speaker 1>sing love. I can sing. That's saying Kenny Logan song

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<v Speaker 1>way a little while, take the time and find his

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<v Speaker 1>way to you. As soon as you're no longer try

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly it'll be staring in your eyes. Don't forget it

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<v Speaker 1>if you let come to you. And that was my

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<v Speaker 1>last words there. Right, It sounds like to me that

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot that happened during your addiction journey.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still in that process of like repairing that

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<v Speaker 1>with your kids. Yeah. One of the things that's come

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<v Speaker 1>with my life is not to apologize, but to a tone.

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<v Speaker 1>M and a friend of mine taught me that because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what a tone meant, because apology doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean anything if your behavior say so, she explained it

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<v Speaker 1>to me. She said, apology is saying sorry, but sorry

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<v Speaker 1>runs out like a old cartridge. But to atone for

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<v Speaker 1>something is to change the behavior. Absolutely. Our torment and

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<v Speaker 1>our healing came from me watching her be a maternal

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<v Speaker 1>support and grandmother to my children that she might not

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<v Speaker 1>have been for me as a child, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>right there all the time, making severe sacrifices to be

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<v Speaker 1>that for me and for my children in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that really just dissolved anything that had happened in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I understand that atonement because she was a

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<v Speaker 1>new person, it wasn't even anything to talk about, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But what I tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>has been really painful for me in in our journey too,

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<v Speaker 1>is to see um Jada's relationship with her children and

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<v Speaker 1>realize all that she missed with me. That has been

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<v Speaker 1>extremely extremely painful for me too. I mean, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>for it and I'm so proud of her, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and the loss is just as much mine as it

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<v Speaker 1>is yours. So it's difficult. It is. I hope for

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<v Speaker 1>you that there will be an opening in some way

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<v Speaker 1>to really have a deep healing with your kids, because

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't gonna happen overnight because we I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>I think we still struggle. You know, it's just such

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<v Speaker 1>a process and I just don't think it ever. My

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<v Speaker 1>oldest daughter, you know, she you know I ain't done

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<v Speaker 1>her right now, you know what I mean. So that's okay, Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I found a picture of us, so I took it

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<v Speaker 1>in ten into her phone. Yeah, I said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>who we are. Yeah, you know what I mean, And

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<v Speaker 1>just let it, let it be, Let it be. It

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<v Speaker 1>takes time and those openings occur. So what words of

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom would you have for people that are going through

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<v Speaker 1>hard any kind of struggle right now? Have courage enough

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<v Speaker 1>to try someone with their secrets, Oh, and let them

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<v Speaker 1>help you, Let them help you, because it takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of courage to do that, it does, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Because are you gonna love me the same if I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you some of stuff I really did, and you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised that they will. You'll be surprised that another

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<v Speaker 1>world opens up. People have a whole another world opens up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I never really thought about how much

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<v Speaker 1>help helps until I needed it. Yeah. The one person

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy says helped him through all his hard times is

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<v Speaker 1>his beloved twin sister Burrow. Even though they now live

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<v Speaker 1>on opposite coasts, Burlin Tommy still talk every day, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's been over a year since they last saw each other. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my twin. How to get being there in that

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<v Speaker 1>chair out for? Can we bring that chair out? Welcome?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all ask for it. Hi, Hi, nice to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you. Welcome to the table. Yes, it's so nice

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you. I heard that you guys are how

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<v Speaker 1>how far apart twins? I just thought it was so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that you guys were raised as twins. We're in

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<v Speaker 1>the same grade, same grade until seventh grade. That has

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<v Speaker 1>to be a trip. Well, you know, you're all I

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<v Speaker 1>have and all i've had, So you mean the world

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<v Speaker 1>to me. You're everything really everything I protected growing up

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that was important to me. Was you. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the crier in the family, soo wow. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>say that in seeing Tommy now and everything you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>him come through, would you say that you're proud of

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<v Speaker 1>your brother? Oh my god, Yes, he has been through everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you are here. She shouldn't be here, right, shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>this right here? You know what we've been through, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for us to be sitting here. She man, she was

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<v Speaker 1>all ahead. Mm hmmm. Yeah, I'll tell you what. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been wonderful just to have the opportunity to see

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<v Speaker 1>you guys together and feel and feel like okay for real,

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<v Speaker 1>for real. Thank you so much for coming and blessing

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