WEBVTT - Always on my Mind: The Theft of Albert Einstein’s Brain

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hey

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Dutton, saren you know what's ridiculous? Yes, I do know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous. People who comment on recipes online with stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that looks good, can't wait to make it? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I mean only say it if like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this actually works. If you've made the recipe, you can comment.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to hear enthusiasm. I don't care. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care, like I don't care what you think it

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<v Speaker 1>might be. I want to I want I wanna results.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to work with something that's going to help

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<v Speaker 1>me get there. But what if that's like feedback of enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see how many people are excited to try it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't too excited, but everybody seems so excited. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give it a go. Their excitement doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>me excited. You know. The other thing that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like is when people comment, well, I didn't like this recipe,

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<v Speaker 1>but then again I substituted, and then they list like,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of turkey, I used fellow, and then it's just

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<v Speaker 1>one thing after another. Well, of course it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to turn out it asked for two cups of flour,

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<v Speaker 1>but I only had four tablespoons used us that. But

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't really come out negative reviews. That is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous, and my my opinions on it are ridiculous. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of got it will be in a bonnet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I like that one. Actually it is. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really follow the recipe scene. It feels ridiculous. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>recipe corps. No, no, well, I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 1>to read a recipe? Is all that stuff in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, when do we get to the rescipe words? Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the story. I read the whole story

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<v Speaker 1>before I can get to like you. But you don't

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<v Speaker 1>because now they a lot of times online they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>jumped to recipe and I hit that so fast that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about their journey. I just want the recipe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Are you ready for the story? Have

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<v Speaker 1>a stolen Brain? No? Not really? Well this was That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I got for you, So it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It also has a rep recipe. This features a great

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<v Speaker 1>American road trip, stolen brain from a very famous person

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<v Speaker 1>and the trip to reunite it with that man's granddaughter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're ready for part three of our trilogy of

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<v Speaker 1>the stories of famous stolen body. So ready. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. He

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<v Speaker 1>and cons. It's always murder free and one ridiculous Elizabeth. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to tell you the story of a

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<v Speaker 1>man and his stolen brain. And that man's name is

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<v Speaker 1>Albert Einstein. That's a brain right there, that's quite a

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<v Speaker 1>big brain. Yeah. Now, just to get us started, have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever thought about how much you're worth? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>your your body, not like your like sense of like value,

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<v Speaker 1>the street value of my body exactly. Look, yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>run it down. What you have, what you're working with?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, You've got a body. It's sixty oxygen carbon,

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent hydrogen, nitrogen, and calcium by percent phosphorus. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got some trace elements potassium, sulfur, odium, chlorine, magnesium, iron, iodine, silicone,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of manganese, fluorine, copper, zinc, arsenic, aluminum, just

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff. Right now, if we set the

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<v Speaker 1>prices for all these minerals, and we ignore the recent

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<v Speaker 1>spike in rare earth mineral prices and inflation prices, and

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<v Speaker 1>we just go off of like nas your body would

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<v Speaker 1>be worth five dollars. That's generous. Yeah, not just your body,

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<v Speaker 1>my body. Anybody's body is about worth five dollars. Mine

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<v Speaker 1>might be worth a little more because I've all those percentages,

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<v Speaker 1>but attitude, like a T shirt, does the gold or

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<v Speaker 1>silver in my mouth count? Because I have gold and silver?

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess bump up. Like but when I asked

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<v Speaker 1>all that, I don't really mean what is your body's worth?

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<v Speaker 1>But like, let's just consider well, I mean we do

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<v Speaker 1>put a price tag on body part, like you are

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<v Speaker 1>walking fine like a black market kidney. Okay, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>living body. No, no, no, I mean, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like individual you can put it on a scale body parts.

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<v Speaker 1>So look at kidney, Like what will that run you

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<v Speaker 1>about a couple of grands on the black market? Right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine it seems about right. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know the prices. I don't talk to people who like

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<v Speaker 1>harvest kidneys, but I read some new stories. I see

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<v Speaker 1>the prices. Well, they're supply chain issues now and for

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<v Speaker 1>are and with inflation, the prices have got have been

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<v Speaker 1>going up. So Let's say you have, um, just one kidney, right,

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<v Speaker 1>how much would one kidney be worth? Because you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be very valuable to the person who's waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for the transplant, right right, right, And we typically sell

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<v Speaker 1>functional organs on the black market. So basically the price

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<v Speaker 1>and the value of that organ depends on how useful

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<v Speaker 1>it is, right well, and how clean it is, how

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<v Speaker 1>clean it is, So someone who doesn't really drink a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of water and holds their p in a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>their kidneys are not going to be very valuable. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking at me? I feel like you're looking at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say sometimes I run a little dark. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're telling on yourself here. So let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>you go like, there's a four day old kidney, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the four day old kiddy. No nobody wants a four

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<v Speaker 1>day o kiddy. You need a fresh kid You need

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<v Speaker 1>a fransplant. Right. So after a couple of days, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how good the kidney is, how about how clean

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<v Speaker 1>the person is, how much water they drink, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter because the kidney is going to go bad after

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days of the body right spoil, which

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call it right now, let's flip it and let's

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<v Speaker 1>say it doesn't matter we're not using the kidney for transplant.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say we want to own the kidney because

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<v Speaker 1>it once belonged to Prince. It's Prince's kidney. How much

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<v Speaker 1>for Prince his kidney on the open market right now?

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<v Speaker 1>That totally changes thing. Even though it's just one kidney,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still more valuable because of whose it was, right right, Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially how much you think prince is kidney would be worth?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think like it depends, I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>on on what people want it for. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's very key. Is it going to be sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like freeze dried and then crushed pulverized into a dust

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<v Speaker 1>that people could snort? Is it going to be used?

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, like you're going to crush it up

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<v Speaker 1>and they give away a little pieces like the True Cross,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the fans could all get a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>their kidney. Oh yeah, they could sell that as a

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<v Speaker 1>commemorative or you could blend that dust into like some

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<v Speaker 1>purple paint and then paint your Chevy shovel Prince is

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<v Speaker 1>kidney purple paint your Ford Taurus Prince Purple, Prince Kidney Purple,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that likes going with I, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>be on Shark Tank. You really should. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>business center you have, it's amazing. It's amazing. So now

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go to our man of the hour, Albert Einstein.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. What do you think the value of, say,

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<v Speaker 1>his brain would be on the open market. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because I would think that for research purposes that

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<v Speaker 1>people are you laughing at me? I think that's honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Research purposes are like we can just unlock the brain

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<v Speaker 1>and find the stuff. Well, I mean, like, what if

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<v Speaker 1>go with me on this one here, seatbelt it go on.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at Einstein's brain and then you

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<v Speaker 1>cut it open and there's like gems inside, special brain

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<v Speaker 1>gems that we didn't know existed. Oh snap, what if

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<v Speaker 1>other people have the brain gems? How do we activate them?

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<v Speaker 1>What if you cut it open and then a little

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<v Speaker 1>man jumps out? This, by the way, would love this too.

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<v Speaker 1>The cart is a little man who jumps out of

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<v Speaker 1>the brain. See where I'm going with this. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>so much sense. I'm just waiting for you to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the pineal gland and the seat of the soul

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll just have all. Well, the issue of Albert

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein's brain and what it's worth has actually been a

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<v Speaker 1>debate for about almost a century. I found this out

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<v Speaker 1>when I was researching. It turns out that the world

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<v Speaker 1>famous Jewish physicist was a target of the Nazis, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had designs on his head. In fact, so much

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<v Speaker 1>they put a price on his head. Now, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the journalist Michael Patternettie or Paternity He and I quote,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirty three, a German newspaper reported that Theme

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<v Speaker 1>and Extreme Nationals organization had put a bounty of five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars on Einstein's head. When he heard the news,

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein touched his hair and said, I did not know

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<v Speaker 1>what was worth so much. Then he fled first to

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<v Speaker 1>Britain and onto the United States to Princeton. We're in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty he became an American citizen. Five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on Einstein's head back then. This is why when you

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<v Speaker 1>see a Nazi, you punch a Nazi completely, like no question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is of mindset. This is what we have to

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<v Speaker 1>stamp out. YEA. So Einstein big fan of America. He

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<v Speaker 1>gets to America flees the Germans. They don't get to

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<v Speaker 1>put a price on his head. Now when he gets here,

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<v Speaker 1>his head is still super valuable. And I don't just

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<v Speaker 1>mean that the theory of relativity and the photo electric

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<v Speaker 1>effect and all the various things that he gave to

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<v Speaker 1>the world of science, but also by this time, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're now after after World War Two, we're into the

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<v Speaker 1>fifties and Israel has been formed, and Israel says, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what his head is worth it as the leader

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<v Speaker 1>of a new state. We could have Einstein be the

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<v Speaker 1>first prime minister of Israel. So they go to him,

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<v Speaker 1>they go, hey, Albi, he want to be a prime

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<v Speaker 1>minister and he's like, no, I'm working on the world

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<v Speaker 1>peace right now. I swear to God this is his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He turns down being the leader of the newly founded

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<v Speaker 1>Israel because he was really worried about the atomic age. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know about you, but I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of imagine his father sitting there like Senator Einstein, Governor Einstein,

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<v Speaker 1>I had such hopes for you think he I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's surpassed all that. Well, no, it's the whole Godfather.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just picturing, like, you know, He's family would

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<v Speaker 1>be so upset to him not to be the leader

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel. I'm just guessing. I don't have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe his father didn't care about world politics. But the

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<v Speaker 1>point is that Einstein, he wades into world politics, decides

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<v Speaker 1>it's not for him. He finds that the world leaders

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<v Speaker 1>are resistant to change. So by the fifties, he's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much just focusing on his gravity research and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get the last bit of his theory relativity all like

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<v Speaker 1>worked out, so you can include gravity because he's over

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth. He's just like by nine five, Einstein is

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<v Speaker 1>now seventy six years old. Okay, he feels worn out. Einstein,

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<v Speaker 1>he remarks to a friend in the weeks that leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to him getting a hospitalized. He says, I finished

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<v Speaker 1>my task here. He's just done right now. At the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, his doctors are warning him like, hey, Albert,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to perform surgery. You got this condition and

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<v Speaker 1>your body. Your a orta is hardening, You got issues

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<v Speaker 1>with your arteries. You can suffer a fatal aneurysm. So Einstein,

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<v Speaker 1>when here's this from his docks, he tells them, lets

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<v Speaker 1>it burst. I don't know why my Einstein is so

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place, but there you go. So dude's

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<v Speaker 1>done with you. Ear if he's like just all the

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<v Speaker 1>way over what I've said? Right. So, as his health

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<v Speaker 1>is deteriorated, he's admitted to Princeton Hospital. His son Hans Albert,

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<v Speaker 1>flies out to from Berkeley, California, where he's a professor,

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<v Speaker 1>and his stepdaughter, Margot, she's there by his bedside. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>wants to succeed him for his last moments, and on

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<v Speaker 1>a Sunday night, the attending doctor checks on Einstein. He

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be fine. His son should be there in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. Sometime after midnight, the nurse, a woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Alberta Rosel. She comes into Einstein's room to check on him.

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<v Speaker 1>She finds him labored breathing. He's just struggling to breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks real pale, He's thin from not eating, and

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<v Speaker 1>at this moment he's just sitting there muttering in his

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<v Speaker 1>native German. The nurse listening to Einstein, she doesn't speak German.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally lost on her. Whatever she's saying. He then

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sits up, takes in two big inhales, exhales,

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<v Speaker 1>and passes away. His final words are lost to time

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<v Speaker 1>because the German is misunderstood by the nurse. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the curse of a genius. He's last words are misunderstood.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next morning, the world learns of Einstein's passing. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so this news conference is hastily announced by Princeton Hospital. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>around this same time, in the basement, there's a crime

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<v Speaker 1>going down. Yes, hospital pathologist Dr Thomas Harvey is scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>performing autopsy of Einstein's body. His mentor couldn't make it,

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<v Speaker 1>so the task fell to him. So time to meet

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<v Speaker 1>our anti hero of sorts, Thomas Harvey. Now, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to just try to get you into the mind

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<v Speaker 1>of this Guy's a forty two year old doctor. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a husband, father of two. He was raised by Quaker

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<v Speaker 1>parents in a Louisville community. He would later attend Yale,

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<v Speaker 1>then he would go to med school. There, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a job at Princeton Hospital, where he's now working as

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<v Speaker 1>a pathologist. Up and commerce striver. Good career in front

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<v Speaker 1>of him right now. Before he performs the autopsy on Einstein,

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Harvey had met Einstein a few times. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>the guy had gone to his house to take blood

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<v Speaker 1>work and I quote Dr harveystead of Einstein. He was

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<v Speaker 1>very informal and cordial, a very kind sort of man.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, he hadn't, as I said, he had not

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<v Speaker 1>expected to be the one to cut open Einstein's body.

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<v Speaker 1>He was supposed to be his mentor, doctor Harry Zimmerman,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a neuro anatomist at Yale. Right. But as

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Harvey recalled from and I quote a fellow up

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, my former teacher, Dr Harry Zimmerman, he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to do the autopsy, but then he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get away. He rang me up and we agreed that

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<v Speaker 1>I'd do it. Imagine my surprise cast them into this role, right, Okay, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a trip back in time to April,

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<v Speaker 1>to the fateful Princeton Hospital, and I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>picture it. I'm there, okay, the day April eighteenth, nine

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five, in the Princeton Hospital morgue lies the body

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<v Speaker 1>of the world's most famous scientist. It's near eight am

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning and Dr Harvey arrives at the morgue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a green tiled room, well lit, quiet as a crypt.

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<v Speaker 1>You see that there are all sorts of hoses and

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<v Speaker 1>vacuum tube, as well as silver bowls, stainless steel hand tools.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a scale for weighing organs, as the operating tables,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course there's that really big refrigerator unit for

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<v Speaker 1>all the dead bodies. Now you watch the scene as

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<v Speaker 1>it plays out before you. Now for the rest of us,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read from the account from journalists Michael Praternity. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Harvey says he took a scalpel in his fingers and

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<v Speaker 1>sliced Albert Einstein open with a y incision, tracing down

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<v Speaker 1>from each collar bone and scoring the belly, the skin

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<v Speaker 1>giving away like cellophane. Now, after the skin is peeled open,

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<v Speaker 1>you marvel at the glistening organs revealed. It's like looking

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<v Speaker 1>at slim good body. Except for slim good body, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy six year old German American physicists exactly that.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Harvey reaches into the cadaver and you see him

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<v Speaker 1>as he quote pulled back two heavy slaps of skin

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<v Speaker 1>like drapes. He took a saw on his right hand

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<v Speaker 1>and cut open Einstein's chest. Inside the wet wonderland of

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<v Speaker 1>the body, his wet his body is a wet wind

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<v Speaker 1>and he like that, So the smell were, at least

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<v Speaker 1>from this wet wonderland was just as intoxicating and intense

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<v Speaker 1>as you can imagine. Right. So, You're watching Dr Harvey

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<v Speaker 1>route around in Einstein's chest cavity, and as Paternity puts

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<v Speaker 1>suit quote, he remembers fingering Einstein's heart and then then

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<v Speaker 1>the stomach. Then a criminal temptation sets in. You watch

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<v Speaker 1>as the doctor decides and then axe on his plan

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<v Speaker 1>to steal the brain of the genius quote. Working quickly

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<v Speaker 1>with a knife, Harvey taunsered the scalp, slicing from below

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<v Speaker 1>one of Einstein's ears, around the back of the head

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<v Speaker 1>to the other ear, and then up and over the

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<v Speaker 1>crown of the skull in an arcing motion. The skin

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<v Speaker 1>peeled back from the bone with a ripping sound like

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<v Speaker 1>masking tape being pulled away from a surface. Harvey again

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<v Speaker 1>shocked to the skin on the face side, so that

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<v Speaker 1>now the dome of vanilla white skull was revealed in

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<v Speaker 1>its entirety. Bearing down on a bus saw, he cut

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<v Speaker 1>through Einstein's head. He cracked the skull like a coconut.

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<v Speaker 1>He removed a cap of bone, peeled back to the

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<v Speaker 1>viscus menengus and snipped the connecting blood vessels and nerve

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<v Speaker 1>bundles and spinal cord. And then at last, and there

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<v Speaker 1>it was a huge, rough pearl. He reached with his

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<v Speaker 1>fingers into the chalice of the man's creatium and removed

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<v Speaker 1>the glistening brain. I am so queasy right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry. That was Oh so pathologists. You watch him,

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<v Speaker 1>is he secrets away of the brain? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>love a gross out, but yeah, that's a bit much. So.

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Harvey's sitting there with you know, Einstein's brain in

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<v Speaker 1>his hand, playing like you know, York with York. He decides,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep this thing for myself. I gotta have this,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he's secrets away the stolen brain. He fills

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<v Speaker 1>out the death certificate, official cause rusher of the arterial

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<v Speaker 1>sclerotic puts in birthplace OLM, Germany, citizen of USA, occupation scientist.

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<v Speaker 1>And that wasn't like that. It would take a while

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<v Speaker 1>for the world to learn the brain of Albert Einstein

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<v Speaker 1>had just been stolen, grabbed like a cat burglar snatching

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<v Speaker 1>up crown jewels. And after this break, we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to Einstein's wet calculator. Welcome back, Elizabeth. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to towel off and kind of recollect yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some fresh air, I drank some water, blinked

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. Okay, Okay, I'll be okay. I got no

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<v Speaker 1>more gross outs for you. All right, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>pure narrative now. Okay. Now we have a brainless Albert

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein and a press conference coming up to announce his passing.

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<v Speaker 1>The Princeton hospital is all abuzz. Oh, and a press

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<v Speaker 1>conference that they said, and they're going to wheel him out.

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<v Speaker 1>We can. We did, had convertible lines. It took like

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<v Speaker 1>an old sweater and shoved it in the cavity where

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<v Speaker 1>his brain was. Oh look what I'm doing. Now, where

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<v Speaker 1>is today's newspaper? Because the intrigue is just beginning. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the this press conference, and down in the

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<v Speaker 1>basement is brainless Albert Einstein. Things are about to go

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<v Speaker 1>off the rail for Domino to check on. For of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Harvey he claims he never stole Einstein's brain. He

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been his story forever. He always claims. Look, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just the big misunderstanding. Sure, you know, like hops

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I meant to put it back,

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<v Speaker 1>he got stuck in. I took it home in my

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<v Speaker 1>car keys I was like, oh, I should bring this back.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate when that happens. And then I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to put it in. So anyway, the idea is

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<v Speaker 1>unlike to say, the wrong briefcase he tooks home, it

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<v Speaker 1>is actually he's very aware that he took Einstein's brain him.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, dude, you know you took a brain home

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I mean, unless his house is riddled with

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<v Speaker 1>other random brains, no, actually know it is like his

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<v Speaker 1>only one. Only it's the beginning of his brain collection.

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<v Speaker 1>His home brain locker is empty save Einstein's brain. He

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<v Speaker 1>just has one very important brain. So Dr Harvey explains,

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<v Speaker 1>and I quote from told us to the Miami Herald quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the one who removed the brain, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and had it. The family knew that I knew some

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<v Speaker 1>good neuropathologists, and so I guess asked me to keep it.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought it might throw some light on his genius.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, so he's of your mind. There just there

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<v Speaker 1>may be some brain gems in there. We can find crystals,

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<v Speaker 1>brain crystals, power crystals, you know all the various head

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<v Speaker 1>crystals that have possibly up there. Now, he also wasn't alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I pointed out that you were there for the most

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<v Speaker 1>But then also there was Dr Otto Nathan, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a colleague and a friend of his and also was

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<v Speaker 1>the executor of the Einstein literary estate, so he had

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<v Speaker 1>the family's blessing somewhat, and he was just there as

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<v Speaker 1>a spectator, like an emotional support, a sandwich and a drink,

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<v Speaker 1>going yeah, cut in and then I'm like up in

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<v Speaker 1>the eaves, dry heaving now. But he's he's a doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a little more familiar. He'd gone through all of

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<v Speaker 1>the like desensitization necessary for these guys. It must have

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<v Speaker 1>been like hot tickets, like I'm gonna cut Einstein, open

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<v Speaker 1>you one in on this. He's like, oh, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see the wet wonderland of ees. He's wearing

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<v Speaker 1>his Einstein T shirt. He's going to the concert. Dr Nathan,

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<v Speaker 1>He's apparent he was fully aware of what everything was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. And this is what Dr Harvey says. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another doctor there, Dr Dean, who he was

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<v Speaker 1>the one who signed the official death certificate. So two

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<v Speaker 1>other doctors are there to apparently see this theft go down,

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<v Speaker 1>if it indeed went down. After the autopsy, they take

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein's body over to a funeral home, then over to

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<v Speaker 1>a crematorium. So he was he was cremated, and the

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<v Speaker 1>family sprinkled his ashes in the river, and they basically

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<v Speaker 1>freedom from his earthly existence except for the brain. The

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<v Speaker 1>brain remained here, and so he had people in there

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<v Speaker 1>as witnesses. He would he used like a sleight of hand,

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.480
<v Speaker 1>shove it in his pocket. Look over there. He wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He was by himself for a few minutes. So there

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<v Speaker 1>was an opportunity, and you know what that means. Opportunity

0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 1>pants part of motive. So news leaks about this stolen brain.

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<v Speaker 1>It somehow gets out. Turns out the news story is

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<v Speaker 1>such that it makes all the way up to the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times, and New York Times writes about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they run with the headline, key saw it in

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein brain, which is a great headline. I like that one.

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<v Speaker 1>So the news story spoke about Einstein's brain. Quote may

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<v Speaker 1>shed light on one of nature's greatest mysteries, the secret

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<v Speaker 1>of genius. So everybody's right there with you on this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that Einstein's brain must be able to reveal to

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<v Speaker 1>us something about how he constructed the reality he did.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to talk to the little man who lives

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<v Speaker 1>in there exactly. Knock knock. Can we talk to day Card?

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<v Speaker 1>You know who's in there? Buzz the animatronic. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it's all coming together. Now, he's making connections all like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a second press conference scheduled for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks to announce like what they're gonna do with

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<v Speaker 1>the brain. The second press conference doesn't materialize because the

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Einstein family catch his wind of the New York Times story.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, wait, what where is his brain? No one

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<v Speaker 1>told about the about the brain being missing. We just

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<v Speaker 1>burned up the body. What the double hockey sticks? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Harvey wasn't the one who gone to the press.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Dr Zimmerman who said the thing about the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>He let it slip and basically he was like, you know, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my boy, Dr Harvey, he's going to bring me the

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<v Speaker 1>brain if Einstein, I'm gonna do this fabulous study. So

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<v Speaker 1>he was hyping himself, and by hyping himself, he creates

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<v Speaker 1>this huge problem for the Einstein family. And that's when

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Harvey goes into hiding. He's like, I'm taking his

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<v Speaker 1>brain and I'm cutting. So he's like in a gross

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<v Speaker 1>motel room with the brain in a jar next to

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<v Speaker 1>hime sitting on the bed. Next look when he blows over,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take you somewhere nice. We'll go to the tropics. Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He has the brain in a jar and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>wig on the jar. Incognito mode um. Elizabeth, did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that Einstein had an equation for happiness in life?

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<v Speaker 1>He equals mc squared different equations. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. That's the only equation I know. There's a pythagger,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that Yeah? And that's I think we have hit

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the map for me. Well, those are

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<v Speaker 1>two good ones. There's here's the third one we can

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<v Speaker 1>add to you, all right, Einstein said, quote, if a

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<v Speaker 1>is successful in life, the rule might be expressed A

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<v Speaker 1>plus X plus y plus z x being work and

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 1>why being play and Z being keep your in your

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>mouth shut. Yeah, exactly, So that could have been a

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>little lesson to DR's emory. No. Dr Harvey, meanwhile, can

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<v Speaker 1>keep his mouth shut, but he's laying low. He's still

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<v Speaker 1>going to work. He still has the brain. People like,

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<v Speaker 1>can we get the brain back? He's like, no, well,

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm going to research it. The family gave it

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<v Speaker 1>to me. The family says they didn't. Maybe they're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Asked them again. You know, He's like talling as much

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<v Speaker 1>as he can, running all circles around any logic that

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<v Speaker 1>comes at him. Right now, this last roll more good

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<v Speaker 1>while until the fall of that year. Dr Harvey slips

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<v Speaker 1>away with Einstein's brain. He's now had in a formalde

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<v Speaker 1>hyde filled jar with the wig on top, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the shotgun next to him, and he drives up to

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia and he goes to the University of penn And

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 1>the reason he goes there is because they have, as

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>he puts it, quote a big lab there, real big

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and so big professional baby so and I quote. They

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>had equipment for sectioning whole brains, including a microtome used

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>only for brainwork. Those particular microtomes are very scarce and

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>special technicians are needed to operate them. Dr Eric, who

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>ran the laboratory, had such a technician. And though it

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>took six months to do, we did a beautiful job

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of sectioning the brain. So now he's got to go

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's like telling the story. No, this is for research. See,

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I sliced it all off a really nice Deli slicer

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>for exactly, running big Einstein's brain to the Deli slicer,

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>they got super thin cut Einstein brain, like this is

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.199
<v Speaker 1>suitable for the finest sandwich. You can imagine it as

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>thin as possible. So, now, once he's got the brain

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>sectioned up, what's he gonna do with it? Deli sandwiches?

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Which is so he starts passing it around. He does

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a whole Johnny apple seed routine around the country, taking

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>bits of like Einstein brain to different scientists, going here's

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>some for you, and here's some for you, pieces of

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the true cross exactly. I'm going all the way around

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>full circle, so he said, and I quote, I usually

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>delivered the pieces myself. It could have been handled by mail,

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess, but I wanted to meet these men, only men,

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>even though the person he went to at the University

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of Penn. Oh, woman, you're saying, man is in mankind. Anyway,

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>after all these years, a study finally emerges. Now, how

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 1>long do you think it takes before a study emerges?

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Try thirty four years. Scholarly articles is published with the

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>title on the Brain of a Scientist Albert Einstein, quite

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the prosaic title. Now this was the only one, and

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 1>this study purported essentially what your argument, which is that

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Einstein's brain must have been different from others and this

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>could be explained by the structure of his brain or

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>possibly brain gems. Now Dr Harvey, he's like, you know

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>milk in this theory. He's he's also he's mentioned on

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the paper, even though you had nothing to do with it.

0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I like that it took him thirty four years to

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>come up with what I came up within thirty seconds

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>with brain gems. I know right, ask the right question

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to get there faster. So that's pretty much all he

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>has to show for it. Meanwhile, he loses everything in

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty one, just six years after that fateful autopsy

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that changed his life. Dr Harvey loses his job because

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.959
<v Speaker 1>he won't give up the Einstein brain. Because it's not

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>because he's pocketing other brains. No, he had started like

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a new habit, and he's not like you know, Dr

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>hard you gotta keep He just wants friends. And he's

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.919
<v Speaker 1>got all these jars with wigs on with eyes attached

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>so he loses his job in the hospital and the

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>staff everyone liked him, but it was payback because he

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>had kept the brain. They're like, we gotta get rid

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of you. You You won't listen to the ball. Look. So

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>he loses his job and that causes him to lose

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 1>his wife. His wife takes his kids. So now he

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>loses his job, his wife, and his kids. Like a

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>country song exactly all in one fell swoop. The only

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:53.479
<v Speaker 1>thing he didn't loses his dog. Non't got a dog

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>game a country song. So now that he's lost everything,

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>he moves to Kansas, where he had at one time lived.

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>He gets a job a plastics factory. Then he's working

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>as a prison pathologist. Later on herd. In the seventies,

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>he loses his license because he fails a medical exam.

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>So then in the nineties he moves back to Princeton,

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>back to his old stomping grounds. Still got Einstein's brain,

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>still in the Formaldehide just doesn't have any good career futures,

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>but he still has still has the brain. In the nineties,

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>just still got it. And he's been giving up some sections.

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, he gave some to some researchers and they

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>came up with one paper. He's got the majority of

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the brain in a glass jar. And so he gets

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>into a car accident and then in the car cars

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>brain car accident in this instant, and this is when

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 1>journalist Michael Paternity he reaches out to Dr Harvey. And

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>it requires months because Dr Harvey do just want to

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 1>answer his phone. He's used to people badgering him. But

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>finally journalist wears down his resistance and he gets the

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>doctor to agree to go with him on a road

0:27:55.320 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>trip to take Einstein's brain and drive it across country.

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 1>There's a good reason for this that that's like the

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>greatest feature to pitch to an editor. Exactly. I found

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the guy stall Einstein's brain. We're taking a road trip,

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>driving across country. Spring break, y'all, Yeah, we're taking the brain.

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry. It's got a wig, sunglasses, got a picnic basket,

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>we got a colored glass in case it gets too hot.

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>So Dr Harvey, though, as I told you before, he

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>had a secret plan. He wants to take Einstein's brain

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>back to his granddaughter. He wants to reunite it with

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the family. Okay, so the journalist says, like I love

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>this pilgrimage. Let's do the brain track for us. Let's go. Yeah,

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, look, you're all banged up from the

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>car accident. I'll drive. He's like, alright, deal, So Dr

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Harvey agrees to hop on a car with a stranger

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and drive across country with Einstein's brain at this plane. Now,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>after this little break, we'll be back to dive into

0:28:52.840 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>the Great American road trip with Einstein's brain. So we're

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen nineties, Elizabeth, how does it feel? So?

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Can you hear the whole playing? Ye? Yeah, Courtney love

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>is just booming in the speakers outside of the t

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>c B. Y. It's amazing. I like your Jinko jeans

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way, thank you. They're extra big. These are

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>size sporties. Yeah. I actually put a whole one pound

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>block of cheese in my pocket as long as it

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get tangled on the wallet change. Yeah, no, I

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want it. That's how you cut the cheese. She'll

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>be here all night. Please tip your waitress. So the nineties,

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>we all know and love. There had been uh you know,

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>a heyday of interesting magazine writing at this time. And

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>so Michael Perny He's like, oh, I want to get

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>in on this. I got a story. Boss bosses like

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Do it. So he gets a budget,

0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>he goes out and he rents a Beli Skylark shows

0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>up and Princeton's like, Dr Harvey hop on in. Dr

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Harvey's like yeah, So they're all ready to do their

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>road trip, but there is some swirling darkness around the

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>trip that I kind of have to mention. Right, there

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>are rumors. Fraternity finds out because there was a journalist

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>before him and the New Jersey magazine. A journalist went

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Levy, and he basically looked for Dr Harvey. He

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>went to find the mystery where is Albert Einstein's missing brain?

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>So Fraternity had somebody ahead of him on this path,

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and he basically realizes that there's these rumors that Dr

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Harvey's trying to sell the brain. And one of the

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>people the rumors point to is Michael Jackson is supposed

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to be wanting to buy Einstein's brain out here. Yeah,

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to, I guess keep it with the Elephant

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Man's bones, which he already owned. Now in the short

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>film Leave Me Alone, I did well doing research. I

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>found that Michael Jackson has this scene where he's filmed

0:30:54.880 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>dancing with the elephant man's bones. Yes, anyway, so can

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you imagine them like moon walking with a Mason jar

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>filled with Einstein's brain around the wall and those from

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the hides all cloudy after all this time. He The

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento B updated this story and they said, quote, try

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>as he might, Harvey can't find an institution or museum

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>that wants the brain that produced the theory relativity. So

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody kind of knew that he was out there on

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the make trying to Like he's losing jobs right and left.

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>He's gotten really no future. He's basically looking for a

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>retirement package at this point. Now, Dr Harvey decides, you

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>know what, since I can't sell it, Michael Jackson won't

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>buy it, I'm gonna have to do the right thing,

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>damn it. So that's when he comes up with the

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>plan to bring it back to Evelyn Einstein, granddaughter of Albert,

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, okay, I'm gonna get there. Michael Patternity

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>sweeps and he's like, I got a rental car. Let's

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>do it, bro now, as I will quickly quote. The

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Sacramental B also reported that for a while there was

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>an interest in Einstein's gray matter, especially me what appeared

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to be its high concentration of glial cells g L

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I A L glial cells, but as an explanation of

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Einstein's brilliance, that theory fell by the wayside, and the

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>secrets of his thinking prowess, or of anybody's for that matter,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>are now thought to lie in the complex chemical functions

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>of the live organ, not the dead tissue. So now

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>basically what he has is a jar full of useless

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>body tissue that once belonged to inste guess rain gems.

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>If you shake someone really hard and you hear rattling,

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you know they're smart because it's the brain gems. I'm

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>going to write this down, let me take some notes

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>better than an i Q test. Yeah, this is like

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>true science. You see someone, You're like, how smart is

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>that guy? Hold on a second, shake him violently, and

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>then if he rattles like a Morocco, You're like, I

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>got me Einstein two point out here, got a real

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>brain genius over here? You hear that rattle like a rainstick,

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>because I'm brain genius. Yeah, I like this. I think

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of funny that science determines that Einstein's

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>brain is essentially worthless to science. You're like, oh, by

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the way, a brand worthless. So Einstein's brain basically had powers,

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and the powers were his animating spirit. It wasn't about

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the car, you know. So it's so, what did this

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>journalist discover about the man who eventually stole the brain

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>of this genius and now has this rather useless collection

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>of body tissue? You got these two strangers in the

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.959
<v Speaker 1>Smeller card driving across America, backseat filled with Einstein's brains

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>right now. Meanwhile, paternity he starts this trip. He's got

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>some hard questions. And I will quote from his book driving,

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Mr Albert quote, is he a grave robbing thief or

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>a renegade, a sham artist or a shaman? What about

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the rumors that he plans to sell Einstein's brain to

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson for some unspecified millions of dollars or has

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>entertained another private offer a three million. So he's just

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:52.959
<v Speaker 1>sitting there. This is what's swirling around with him as

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>he's like, all right, close it, or let's get on

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the road. I started driving across country. These questions seem

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to matter less and less the further they get away

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>from Princeton, he starts focusing on the man. He starts

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to get into like who was this guy when he

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>was at forty two year old doctor and just fate

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 1>fell into his lap and say, can you cut open

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the body of the most brilliant man you've possibly ever

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>seen or known? Right, He's like, yeah, okay, Well, at

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>this point, Harvey, you know, he's got the brain, as

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I've told you numerous times, and it's in essentially a

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>giant glass mason jar, right, or maybe like you think

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of like a candy jar. I don't know what jar

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>would be in my head, giant mason jar or sometimes

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>when you say it, I imagine like a like a

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>big candy jar at like a store. Yeah. Once I

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>guess how many? Yeah, how many job breakers are in

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>this thing? And there's like one loose jaw breaker floating

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>in the framale Hyde with the brain. Okay, we're getting

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>ready to getting ready for the road trip. Turns out

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that Dr Harvey, you know, switch containers and so Michael

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Fraternity gets to finally see the brain. He's been talking

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>to this guy for months. He keeps asking about it,

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, hey, before we get on the road,

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>can you like show me the brain? And he's like,

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. It's like, come on, man,

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to show me the brain. He's like, all right, can

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you like kind of calm down a little bit, I'll

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 1>go get it. So Dr Harvey shuffles around and now

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I turned it over to Michael Paternity Quote. Harvey appeared

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>from the darkness with a big cardboard box in his hands.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 1>He set it down and wanted to time. Pulled out

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>two large glass cookie jars full of what looked to

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>be chunks of chicken and a golden Einstein's brain chopped

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 1>into pieces ranging from the size of a turkey neck

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:34.280
<v Speaker 1>to a dime, A swirling universe unto itself, galaxy, suns,

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>and planets. It seemed to glow, and the old man

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>he stood over it transfixed nodding. In his face was

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a sudden nakedness, an expression of awe of the soul

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>manifesting itself on the surface of the body. Now, okay,

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I got one for you. I got one for you. Ready, Okay,

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>So while they're driving across country, once they load up

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and they got the brain in the backseat, and it

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>isn't tough where that they package it up. Here's the

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 1>thing though, when I imagine it in my head, it's

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like a cartoon. It's a comic. And then when you're

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>reading these descriptions and oh, my stomach is turning. As

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>they're growing across country with the tupperware, they started basically

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>getting into some very stories of other people's brains and

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>what happens to them. And there's an interesting one I

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>thought you'd like to know. At the y Star Institute

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>at the University of Pennsylvania, it was famous for how

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>many bones and brains it once held back when that

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>was the thing to keep. And uh, the institute had

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Walt Whitman's brain right. But then there was an accident,

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>as the Birmingham Daily Mail reported in December six seven,

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:47.240
<v Speaker 1>quote Mr Anthony Spitzka, professor at the Jefferson Medical College,

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>in a published report on his comparative study of the

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>brains of eminent American authors and scientists, states that Walt

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Whitman's brain is lost to science. A hospital employee carelessly

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>dropped the jar containing the poet's brain, which was cut

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>into pieces and would not be saved. That's incredible, and

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like so he's like mopping someone and they hit

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it with the handle. Kids across the exactly, there's no

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>dog to come in and get like that TV show. Yeah.

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, look, it's all mixed in with the glass.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't even sort this out. I just put it

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>in the dustbin. Cut my brain in two pieces. This

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>is my last cortex. Oh god, right now. The Great

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>American Road Trip with Einstein, it surprisingly wasn't as fun

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>as it sounds. It does not sound like a barrel

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of laughs. It's miles from New Jersey to Berkeley, California,

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>so they felt about all of those miles. Let's put

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it that way. That Buick Skylock rental car journalists and

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>scientists was pretty quiet for most of the drive. A

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>couple of times they got a little tense with each other,

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and also like there's other personal issues with both of

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>their partners in their lives, so compounding pressures right. Well, Eventually,

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>as we're getting closer to the West Coast Praternity, he's like,

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>this guy's a handful. I gotta call Evelyn Einstein and

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>let her know we're on our way and she doesn't

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>know they're coming, and see if she really wants this

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to happen, right, we shouldn't just like, you know, shock

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>her with this, Yeah, you're just hanging out at home.

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>And then these two goofballs pull up in a rental

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>car with two jugs full of brain bits. Your grandfather's brain, Hey,

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 1>grandfa's brain. Want they're fighting, and so they're just like

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>all passive aggressive, like just take it? Do you take it? Exactly?

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.919
<v Speaker 1>So when he calls her, Evelyn Einstein, she knows who

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.720
<v Speaker 1>this dude is. She's like, ah, yes, the White Rabbit

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Fraternity's like not quite getting with the riff, right, and

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>she's riffing on the Jimmy Stewart movie Harvey. So she

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>explains to the young journalists he lived in Kansas. His

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>name is Harvey. Enough said right, and he's like, okay, whatever.

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>So she's just like, flies over. I don't totally don't

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>get your mid century references. So later in their phone call,

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Evelyn Einstein, who was pretty tense with him. At first,

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>she starts to warm up and then you start talking

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>about the theft her grandfather's brain, and she's like, it's

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>degoutin you know, it's disgusting what he's done, all right,

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>But then she eventually softens her stance because a journalist,

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Michael Praternity, he's pretty kind and nice story, and he's like, look,

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>do you want to meet this guy or not. She's like, look,

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and I quote, I'm interested in science. I'm curious about

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the brain. And besides, I have to have a sense

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of humor about this. It's really the only way I

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>can deal with it. Yeah, with the Oregon party organ

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and buddy parts of your dead relatives like, hey, you

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:33.919
<v Speaker 1>want to see this. You're like, I gotta laugh at this. Yeah,

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>she's got a lot of brain crystals, super brain crystals.

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>No miles and miles later to be exactly, they get

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to Berkeley and they're like, hey, we got the brains.

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>We're showing up at your place, right, And then they

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 1>arrive at her place and she's prepared for it, and

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>she's like, you know, psychically prepared herself to deal with

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>this guy who stole her grandfather's brain decades ago, and like,

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>why would he want to show up at her house?

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Going here it's back, I'm sorry, forgive me. She doesn't

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>know what he's gonn asked her. Right, he shows up

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's the nervous one, right, he won't sit down

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>She's all gracious and generous, invites him into her home

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 1>that has this beautiful view of San Francisco. It's a

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>really nice Berkeley home. He's sitting there, he stands up.

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>The journalist is sitting on the couch with her, the

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>two of them having a conversation. He won't sit down.

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>They ask him, Hey, you want to sit down, and

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>he's like, nope, ask hey you want to sit down?

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Four times. It takes before you find He's like, okay,

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>he's done wrong. Oh yeah, no's he's highly nervous around her.

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Now she tries to break the ice and so she's

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>asking him questions. She's like, hey, did you autopsy the

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>whole body? And he's like, oh yeah, the whole body.

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like, what was that like. He's like, oh, quote

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>why it made me feel humble and insignificant. She's like,

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I can see that all right. And the journalists He's like,

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I got it involved in this. I got a couple

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>of questions. Let me pepper him with a couple. And

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>so he's like, hey, can we see the brain? Let

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>her see the brain and show where the show where

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the deal? Right. He's like, I don't know if that'd

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>be a good idea, and she's like, oh, that would

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>be wonderful. He's like, okay, let me go get the tupperware.

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>So he pulls out the tupperware container that he's got

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the brains in the brain broth in, puts it on

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like the little lenon I imagine like a coffee table,

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's like pushes aside the day's newspapers. He's like,

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:17.839
<v Speaker 1>hearently put space for the brain cracks. Open the lid. Whoa,

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>he took the lid off. Takes the lid off. He

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>pulls out a piece of her grandfather's brains, holding it

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 1>up hands. Yeah, his hands touching it. It's all formaldehyde

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 1>and the stink is filling the room. It just now

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>smells like a Morgan there. And he's like, yeah, you

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>want to touch it, and you want to hold it.

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>She's like yeah, he won't hand it to her. She's

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>like all confused. He's like, yeah, you want to touch it,

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and then he don't hand it to her. She's like,

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>what is that? What is this guy's deal? Like right, exactly,

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>but the journalist paternity. He's getting annoyed, right, He's like, dude,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>just candor the body part and she's like, oh no, no,

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>we just put it back in the tupperware, right, and

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 1>he steals the lid, won't give it to her. It's like,

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>it's my grandfather's brain. Let me hold the brain. And

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I don't know. Look, I gotta call my cousin.

0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.240
<v Speaker 1>He lives in sam Matey. I'm gonna go have dinner

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>with him. And she's like, why I had dinner plants

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>for all of us. I thought we could go out.

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>No, no no, I gotta go see my cousin. I don't

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>get out here that often. She's like, so I had

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>dinner plans, eyeing the tupper did you bring cayenne pepper?

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>So the At this point, Dr Harvey is like, look,

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I gotta split, and he's like, you're gonna give me

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 1>a ride and the journalist is like, no, bro, we're done.

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>This is his trip is over. So they diverge pass

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and he just takes off and goes to meet his cousin.

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Ends up taking bart over to stop it. He takes

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a bart over because he's like the guy, the chauffeur

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>won't drive me, so he just goes. He takes part. Well,

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>then he would have to get on like cal train

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 1>to get down to San Mateo. Oh yeah, totally good car. Yeah,

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of transit options there. Meanwhile, he leaves the

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>brain behind in the rental car. These all three of

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>them at this point, I'm just like enough they all

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>need to get smack in the face heavily. And the

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 1>paternity of the journalists. They go, houtside, they're gonna take

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.359
<v Speaker 1>a little walk coming back from dinner, and they see

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 1>the rental car, and they noticed that the tupper where

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>is in back? And she's like, he left the brain?

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Does does he do this? Often? Like what's been going

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>on in this rud trip? And Turney's like, no, man,

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what the deal. The two of

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:10.720
<v Speaker 1>them look each other like what a cook? He was? Huh, alright,

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>look so glad he's gone. Right. He just couldn't bear

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 1>to say, here's the brain like that was. His friend

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.879
<v Speaker 1>checks it, just like I gotta go. I'm out peace.

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 1>So Paternity grabs the brain. They bring it inside, crack

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>open the lid. He's like, what's wrong with these people?

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>But you want to play with your granddad's brains? So

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.919
<v Speaker 1>she's like she runs her fingers through the golden broth.

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>The brains all bobbing in there like stars or galaxies,

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>apples at a county fair and us. She's like poking

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>around at the brains and she's like, so this is

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 1>what all the fuss is about. She's like, you know,

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>running her finger to the brains. Now. He tries, is like,

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.439
<v Speaker 1>can I leave these with you? You just keep these

0:43:55.000 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 1>aw in the liquid A little slurp, just just a

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 1>little taste. I just always wanted to. Doc would have

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>thought it was weird. So she's like reluctant. She's like, no,

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want the brains. You can take them. He's

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>like no, no no, I'm just gonna leave them here. She's like,

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no, you take to start fighting over the brains,

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>but nicely and I like actually fighting but casually like no,

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you take it. In the end, he takes the brains

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, I'll take the damn brains. He

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>takes the brains, he gives them back to Dr Harvey.

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 1>He's like, look here, you take the brains back. Dr

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Harvey's like I thought we were giving him to her.

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was out. And she's like he's like no, man,

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm done. I'm gonna go write this book, all right,

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>so return he checks out. Dr Harvey goes back to

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Princeton and he takes the brain back to where he

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 1>got it, to Princeton Hospital, and he's like, how about

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys, will you take the brain? And so he

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>then takes it to this dude, Dr Elliot Crouse, who

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>now has his job. Dr. Elliot Crous is the pathologist

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>at Princeton Hospital, and he commented on how strange this

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>moment was for him. Dr Holle Krouse said, and I quote,

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 1>he didn't really say anything. He just walked in here

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and he handed me the cardboard box. I mean, I

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>think he was relieved. He looked relieved, but he didn't

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>really say anything. Didn't give me instructions or anything. Just

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>now it's mine. So now this dude has don't say anything,

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>just like you know, you know, so worried that you know,

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>some careless janitor might knock it off the shelf and

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:25.399
<v Speaker 1>have like a whitman accident, or that somebody else might

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>come in and steal it. This pathologist he's like, you

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 1>know what, I think I'm gonna have to take this home.

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:34.399
<v Speaker 1>He takes the Einstein brain up with him. The Lord

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>of the Energy my precious. So he's over there, and uh,

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, interestingly, all these people, none of them stopped

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to think about what would Einstein want with his brains.

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:53.240
<v Speaker 1>So Einstein very clearly said, and I quote people showed

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 1>them to worship my bones. So this is and it

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>isn't even like, oh, I wonder what he would have said.

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>He literally we have to assume that a lies to brains.

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, you had that really beautiful thing of my

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>task here is done. Like he's a lot of brain gems.

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>You see him way beyond this, you guys, let him

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>slip his mortal coil, to slip out of his skin

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and go be one with the universe. But there you go.

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>That is our story of the Albert Einstein brain theft.

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a ridiculous takeaway. I'm gonna be really self centered

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and focused on me right now. Go for it. But

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<v Speaker 1>my takeaway is that I can dish it out, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can't take it. I can say lots of gross stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but when people, when you're telling me all these gross things,

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<v Speaker 1>I am literally queasy. I was worried, but then also

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<v Speaker 1>a little excited. My ridiculous takeaway, thanks for asking people

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<v Speaker 1>saw about me, right now I'm sorry that I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>called time on that yet. All right, fine, yes, thank you, Ralph.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting with a favorite quote of his, Einstein once said

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<v Speaker 1>and quote, there are only two ways to live your life.

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<v Speaker 1>One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other

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<v Speaker 1>is as though everything is a miracle. Now, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the ultimate lesson of Einstein. When a finger points

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<v Speaker 1>to the guy and shows you the wonders of the heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get hung up on the finger. To stay focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the wonder, not the finger that pointed it out. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see how that's so hard to grasp. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my second part. This at that finger that it's pointing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the same finger that you could pick a nose with.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing special about a finger, even if it's Einstein's

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't freaking matter in this case, if it's even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's his brain, it doesn't freaking matter. It's what we

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<v Speaker 1>do with the brain that matters far more than the

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<v Speaker 1>gray matter itself. Perfect, that's all I gotta say. That's it.

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