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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hey

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dutton, saren you know what's ridiculous? Yes, I do know.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. People who comment on recipes online with stuff

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Speaker 1: like that looks good, can't wait to make it? Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I mean only say it if like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this actually works. If you've made the recipe, you can comment.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to hear enthusiasm. I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: don't care, like I don't care what you think it

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Speaker 1: You can see how many people are excited to try it.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't too excited, but everybody seems so excited. I'm

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Speaker 1: like is when people comment, well, I didn't like this recipe,

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Speaker 1: but then again I substituted, and then they list like,

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Speaker 1: it didn't really come out negative reviews. That is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, and my my opinions on it are ridiculous. Well,

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Speaker 1: well I like that one. Actually it is. I don't

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Speaker 1: I like that. Are you ready for the story? Have

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Speaker 1: a stolen Brain? No? Not really? Well this was That's

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Speaker 1: what I got for you, So it's a good one.

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Speaker 1: It also has a rep recipe. This features a great

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Speaker 1: American road trip, stolen brain from a very famous person

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Speaker 1: and the trip to reunite it with that man's granddaughter. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're ready for part three of our trilogy of

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Speaker 1: the stories of famous stolen body. So ready. This is

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. He

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Speaker 1: and cons. It's always murder free and one ridiculous Elizabeth. Today,

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Speaker 1: I would like to tell you the story of a

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Speaker 1: man and his stolen brain. And that man's name is

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Speaker 1: Albert Einstein. That's a brain right there, that's quite a

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Speaker 1: big brain. Yeah. Now, just to get us started, have

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Speaker 1: you ever thought about how much you're worth? I mean

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Speaker 1: the street value of my body exactly. Look, yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: run it down. What you have, what you're working with?

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Speaker 1: All right, You've got a body. It's sixty oxygen carbon,

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Speaker 1: So look at kidney, Like what will that run you

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Speaker 1: it once belonged to Prince. It's Prince's kidney. How much

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Speaker 1: That's right. What do you think the value of, say,

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Speaker 1: don't know. That's the only equation I know. There's a pythagger,

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00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: isn't that Yeah? And that's I think we have hit

423
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 1: the end of the map for me. Well, those are

424
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 1: two good ones. There's here's the third one we can

425
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: add to you, all right, Einstein said, quote, if a

426
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: is successful in life, the rule might be expressed A

427
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: plus X plus y plus z x being work and

428
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: why being play and Z being keep your in your

429
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: mouth shut. Yeah, exactly, So that could have been a

430
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: little lesson to DR's emory. No. Dr Harvey, meanwhile, can

431
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: keep his mouth shut, but he's laying low. He's still

432
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: going to work. He still has the brain. People like,

433
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: can we get the brain back? He's like, no, well,

434
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: maybe I'm going to research it. The family gave it

435
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: to me. The family says they didn't. Maybe they're wrong.

436
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: Asked them again. You know, He's like talling as much

437
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: as he can, running all circles around any logic that

438
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: comes at him. Right now, this last roll more good

439
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: while until the fall of that year. Dr Harvey slips

440
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: away with Einstein's brain. He's now had in a formalde

441
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: hyde filled jar with the wig on top, and it's

442
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: the shotgun next to him, and he drives up to

443
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and he goes to the University of penn And

444
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: the reason he goes there is because they have, as

445
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: he puts it, quote a big lab there, real big

446
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: and so big professional baby so and I quote. They

447
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: had equipment for sectioning whole brains, including a microtome used

448
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: only for brainwork. Those particular microtomes are very scarce and

449
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: special technicians are needed to operate them. Dr Eric, who

450
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: ran the laboratory, had such a technician. And though it

451
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: took six months to do, we did a beautiful job

452
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 1: of sectioning the brain. So now he's got to go

453
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: and he's like telling the story. No, this is for research. See,

454
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: I sliced it all off a really nice Deli slicer

455
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: for exactly, running big Einstein's brain to the Deli slicer,

456
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: they got super thin cut Einstein brain, like this is

457
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: suitable for the finest sandwich. You can imagine it as

458
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: thin as possible. So, now, once he's got the brain

459
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: sectioned up, what's he gonna do with it? Deli sandwiches?

460
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: Which is so he starts passing it around. He does

461
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: a whole Johnny apple seed routine around the country, taking

462
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: bits of like Einstein brain to different scientists, going here's

463
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: some for you, and here's some for you, pieces of

464
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: the true cross exactly. I'm going all the way around

465
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: full circle, so he said, and I quote, I usually

466
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: delivered the pieces myself. It could have been handled by mail,

467
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: I guess, but I wanted to meet these men, only men,

468
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: even though the person he went to at the University

469
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: of Penn. Oh, woman, you're saying, man is in mankind. Anyway,

470
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: after all these years, a study finally emerges. Now, how

471
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: long do you think it takes before a study emerges?

472
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: Try thirty four years. Scholarly articles is published with the

473
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: title on the Brain of a Scientist Albert Einstein, quite

474
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: the prosaic title. Now this was the only one, and

475
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: this study purported essentially what your argument, which is that

476
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: Einstein's brain must have been different from others and this

477
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: could be explained by the structure of his brain or

478
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: possibly brain gems. Now Dr Harvey, he's like, you know

479
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: milk in this theory. He's he's also he's mentioned on

480
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: the paper, even though you had nothing to do with it.

481
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: I like that it took him thirty four years to

482
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: come up with what I came up within thirty seconds

483
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: with brain gems. I know right, ask the right question

484
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: to get there faster. So that's pretty much all he

485
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: has to show for it. Meanwhile, he loses everything in

486
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one, just six years after that fateful autopsy

487
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: that changed his life. Dr Harvey loses his job because

488
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 1: he won't give up the Einstein brain. Because it's not

489
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: because he's pocketing other brains. No, he had started like

490
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: a new habit, and he's not like you know, Dr

491
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: hard you gotta keep He just wants friends. And he's

492
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: got all these jars with wigs on with eyes attached

493
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: so he loses his job in the hospital and the

494
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: staff everyone liked him, but it was payback because he

495
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: had kept the brain. They're like, we gotta get rid

496
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: of you. You You won't listen to the ball. Look. So

497
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: he loses his job and that causes him to lose

498
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: his wife. His wife takes his kids. So now he

499
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: loses his job, his wife, and his kids. Like a

500
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: country song exactly all in one fell swoop. The only

501
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: thing he didn't loses his dog. Non't got a dog

502
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: game a country song. So now that he's lost everything,

503
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: he moves to Kansas, where he had at one time lived.

504
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: He gets a job a plastics factory. Then he's working

505
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: as a prison pathologist. Later on herd. In the seventies,

506
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: he loses his license because he fails a medical exam.

507
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: So then in the nineties he moves back to Princeton,

508
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: back to his old stomping grounds. Still got Einstein's brain,

509
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: still in the Formaldehide just doesn't have any good career futures,

510
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: but he still has still has the brain. In the nineties,

511
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: just still got it. And he's been giving up some sections.

512
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: You know, he gave some to some researchers and they

513
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: came up with one paper. He's got the majority of

514
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: the brain in a glass jar. And so he gets

515
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: into a car accident and then in the car cars

516
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: brain car accident in this instant, and this is when

517
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: journalist Michael Paternity he reaches out to Dr Harvey. And

518
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: it requires months because Dr Harvey do just want to

519
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: answer his phone. He's used to people badgering him. But

520
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: finally journalist wears down his resistance and he gets the

521
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: doctor to agree to go with him on a road

522
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: trip to take Einstein's brain and drive it across country.

523
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: There's a good reason for this that that's like the

524
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: greatest feature to pitch to an editor. Exactly. I found

525
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: the guy stall Einstein's brain. We're taking a road trip,

526
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: driving across country. Spring break, y'all, Yeah, we're taking the brain.

527
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Don't worry. It's got a wig, sunglasses, got a picnic basket,

528
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: we got a colored glass in case it gets too hot.

529
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: So Dr Harvey, though, as I told you before, he

530
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: had a secret plan. He wants to take Einstein's brain

531
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: back to his granddaughter. He wants to reunite it with

532
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: the family. Okay, so the journalist says, like I love

533
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: this pilgrimage. Let's do the brain track for us. Let's go. Yeah,

534
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: And he's like, look, you're all banged up from the

535
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: car accident. I'll drive. He's like, alright, deal, So Dr

536
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Harvey agrees to hop on a car with a stranger

537
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: and drive across country with Einstein's brain at this plane. Now,

538
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: after this little break, we'll be back to dive into

539
00:28:52,840 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: the Great American road trip with Einstein's brain. So we're

540
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties, Elizabeth, how does it feel? So?

541
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: Can you hear the whole playing? Ye? Yeah, Courtney love

542
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: is just booming in the speakers outside of the t

543
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: c B. Y. It's amazing. I like your Jinko jeans

544
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: by the way, thank you. They're extra big. These are

545
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: size sporties. Yeah. I actually put a whole one pound

546
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: block of cheese in my pocket as long as it

547
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: doesn't get tangled on the wallet change. Yeah, no, I

548
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: don't want it. That's how you cut the cheese. She'll

549
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: be here all night. Please tip your waitress. So the nineties,

550
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: we all know and love. There had been uh you know,

551
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: a heyday of interesting magazine writing at this time. And

552
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: so Michael Perny He's like, oh, I want to get

553
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: in on this. I got a story. Boss bosses like

554
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: I love it. Do it. So he gets a budget,

555
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: he goes out and he rents a Beli Skylark shows

556
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: up and Princeton's like, Dr Harvey hop on in. Dr

557
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: Harvey's like yeah, So they're all ready to do their

558
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: road trip, but there is some swirling darkness around the

559
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: trip that I kind of have to mention. Right, there

560
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: are rumors. Fraternity finds out because there was a journalist

561
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: before him and the New Jersey magazine. A journalist went

562
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: Stephen Levy, and he basically looked for Dr Harvey. He

563
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: went to find the mystery where is Albert Einstein's missing brain?

564
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: So Fraternity had somebody ahead of him on this path,

565
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: and he basically realizes that there's these rumors that Dr

566
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: Harvey's trying to sell the brain. And one of the

567
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: people the rumors point to is Michael Jackson is supposed

568
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: to be wanting to buy Einstein's brain out here. Yeah,

569
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: he wanted to, I guess keep it with the Elephant

570
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: Man's bones, which he already owned. Now in the short

571
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: film Leave Me Alone, I did well doing research. I

572
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: found that Michael Jackson has this scene where he's filmed

573
00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: dancing with the elephant man's bones. Yes, anyway, so can

574
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: you imagine them like moon walking with a Mason jar

575
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: filled with Einstein's brain around the wall and those from

576
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: the hides all cloudy after all this time. He The

577
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: Sacramento B updated this story and they said, quote, try

578
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: as he might, Harvey can't find an institution or museum

579
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: that wants the brain that produced the theory relativity. So

580
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: everybody kind of knew that he was out there on

581
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: the make trying to Like he's losing jobs right and left.

582
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: He's gotten really no future. He's basically looking for a

583
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: retirement package at this point. Now, Dr Harvey decides, you

584
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: know what, since I can't sell it, Michael Jackson won't

585
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: buy it, I'm gonna have to do the right thing,

586
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: damn it. So that's when he comes up with the

587
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: plan to bring it back to Evelyn Einstein, granddaughter of Albert,

588
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, I'm gonna get there. Michael Patternity

589
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: sweeps and he's like, I got a rental car. Let's

590
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: do it, bro now, as I will quickly quote. The

591
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: Sacramental B also reported that for a while there was

592
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: an interest in Einstein's gray matter, especially me what appeared

593
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: to be its high concentration of glial cells g L

594
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: I A L glial cells, but as an explanation of

595
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: Einstein's brilliance, that theory fell by the wayside, and the

596
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: secrets of his thinking prowess, or of anybody's for that matter,

597
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: are now thought to lie in the complex chemical functions

598
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: of the live organ, not the dead tissue. So now

599
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: basically what he has is a jar full of useless

600
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: body tissue that once belonged to inste guess rain gems.

601
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: If you shake someone really hard and you hear rattling,

602
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: you know they're smart because it's the brain gems. I'm

603
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: going to write this down, let me take some notes

604
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: better than an i Q test. Yeah, this is like

605
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: true science. You see someone, You're like, how smart is

606
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: that guy? Hold on a second, shake him violently, and

607
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: then if he rattles like a Morocco, You're like, I

608
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: got me Einstein two point out here, got a real

609
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: brain genius over here? You hear that rattle like a rainstick,

610
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: because I'm brain genius. Yeah, I like this. I think

611
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: it's just kind of funny that science determines that Einstein's

612
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: brain is essentially worthless to science. You're like, oh, by

613
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: the way, a brand worthless. So Einstein's brain basically had powers,

614
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: and the powers were his animating spirit. It wasn't about

615
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: the car, you know. So it's so, what did this

616
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: journalist discover about the man who eventually stole the brain

617
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: of this genius and now has this rather useless collection

618
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: of body tissue? You got these two strangers in the

619
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: Smeller card driving across America, backseat filled with Einstein's brains

620
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: right now. Meanwhile, paternity he starts this trip. He's got

621
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: some hard questions. And I will quote from his book driving,

622
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Mr Albert quote, is he a grave robbing thief or

623
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: a renegade, a sham artist or a shaman? What about

624
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: the rumors that he plans to sell Einstein's brain to

625
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson for some unspecified millions of dollars or has

626
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: entertained another private offer a three million. So he's just

627
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 1: sitting there. This is what's swirling around with him as

628
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: he's like, all right, close it, or let's get on

629
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: the road. I started driving across country. These questions seem

630
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: to matter less and less the further they get away

631
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: from Princeton, he starts focusing on the man. He starts

632
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: to get into like who was this guy when he

633
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: was at forty two year old doctor and just fate

634
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: fell into his lap and say, can you cut open

635
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: the body of the most brilliant man you've possibly ever

636
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: seen or known? Right, He's like, yeah, okay, Well, at

637
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: this point, Harvey, you know, he's got the brain, as

638
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: I've told you numerous times, and it's in essentially a

639
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: giant glass mason jar, right, or maybe like you think

640
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: of like a candy jar. I don't know what jar

641
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: would be in my head, giant mason jar or sometimes

642
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: when you say it, I imagine like a like a

643
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: big candy jar at like a store. Yeah. Once I

644
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: guess how many? Yeah, how many job breakers are in

645
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: this thing? And there's like one loose jaw breaker floating

646
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: in the framale Hyde with the brain. Okay, we're getting

647
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: ready to getting ready for the road trip. Turns out

648
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: that Dr Harvey, you know, switch containers and so Michael

649
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: Fraternity gets to finally see the brain. He's been talking

650
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: to this guy for months. He keeps asking about it,

651
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, before we get on the road,

652
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: can you like show me the brain? And he's like,

653
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. It's like, come on, man,

654
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: to show me the brain. He's like, all right, can

655
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: you like kind of calm down a little bit, I'll

656
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: go get it. So Dr Harvey shuffles around and now

657
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: I turned it over to Michael Paternity Quote. Harvey appeared

658
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: from the darkness with a big cardboard box in his hands.

659
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: He set it down and wanted to time. Pulled out

660
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: two large glass cookie jars full of what looked to

661
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: be chunks of chicken and a golden Einstein's brain chopped

662
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: into pieces ranging from the size of a turkey neck

663
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: to a dime, A swirling universe unto itself, galaxy, suns,

664
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: and planets. It seemed to glow, and the old man

665
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: he stood over it transfixed nodding. In his face was

666
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: a sudden nakedness, an expression of awe of the soul

667
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: manifesting itself on the surface of the body. Now, okay,

668
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: I got one for you. I got one for you. Ready, Okay,

669
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: So while they're driving across country, once they load up

670
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: and they got the brain in the backseat, and it

671
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: isn't tough where that they package it up. Here's the

672
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: thing though, when I imagine it in my head, it's

673
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: like a cartoon. It's a comic. And then when you're

674
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: reading these descriptions and oh, my stomach is turning. As

675
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: they're growing across country with the tupperware, they started basically

676
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: getting into some very stories of other people's brains and

677
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: what happens to them. And there's an interesting one I

678
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: thought you'd like to know. At the y Star Institute

679
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: at the University of Pennsylvania, it was famous for how

680
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: many bones and brains it once held back when that

681
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: was the thing to keep. And uh, the institute had

682
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: Walt Whitman's brain right. But then there was an accident,

683
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: as the Birmingham Daily Mail reported in December six seven,

684
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: quote Mr Anthony Spitzka, professor at the Jefferson Medical College,

685
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: in a published report on his comparative study of the

686
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: brains of eminent American authors and scientists, states that Walt

687
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: Whitman's brain is lost to science. A hospital employee carelessly

688
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: dropped the jar containing the poet's brain, which was cut

689
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: into pieces and would not be saved. That's incredible, and

690
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: it's like so he's like mopping someone and they hit

691
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: it with the handle. Kids across the exactly, there's no

692
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: dog to come in and get like that TV show. Yeah.

693
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: I was like, look, it's all mixed in with the glass.

694
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: I can't even sort this out. I just put it

695
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: in the dustbin. Cut my brain in two pieces. This

696
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: is my last cortex. Oh god, right now. The Great

697
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: American Road Trip with Einstein, it surprisingly wasn't as fun

698
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: as it sounds. It does not sound like a barrel

699
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: of laughs. It's miles from New Jersey to Berkeley, California,

700
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: so they felt about all of those miles. Let's put

701
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: it that way. That Buick Skylock rental car journalists and

702
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: scientists was pretty quiet for most of the drive. A

703
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: couple of times they got a little tense with each other,

704
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: and also like there's other personal issues with both of

705
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: their partners in their lives, so compounding pressures right. Well, Eventually,

706
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: as we're getting closer to the West Coast Praternity, he's like,

707
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: this guy's a handful. I gotta call Evelyn Einstein and

708
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: let her know we're on our way and she doesn't

709
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: know they're coming, and see if she really wants this

710
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: to happen, right, we shouldn't just like, you know, shock

711
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: her with this, Yeah, you're just hanging out at home.

712
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: And then these two goofballs pull up in a rental

713
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: car with two jugs full of brain bits. Your grandfather's brain, Hey,

714
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: grandfa's brain. Want they're fighting, and so they're just like

715
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: all passive aggressive, like just take it? Do you take it? Exactly?

716
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: So when he calls her, Evelyn Einstein, she knows who

717
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: this dude is. She's like, ah, yes, the White Rabbit

718
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: Fraternity's like not quite getting with the riff, right, and

719
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: she's riffing on the Jimmy Stewart movie Harvey. So she

720
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: explains to the young journalists he lived in Kansas. His

721
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: name is Harvey. Enough said right, and he's like, okay, whatever.

722
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: So she's just like, flies over. I don't totally don't

723
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: get your mid century references. So later in their phone call,

724
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: Evelyn Einstein, who was pretty tense with him. At first,

725
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: she starts to warm up and then you start talking

726
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: about the theft her grandfather's brain, and she's like, it's

727
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: degoutin you know, it's disgusting what he's done, all right,

728
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: But then she eventually softens her stance because a journalist,

729
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Michael Praternity, he's pretty kind and nice story, and he's like, look,

730
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: do you want to meet this guy or not. She's like, look,

731
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: and I quote, I'm interested in science. I'm curious about

732
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: the brain. And besides, I have to have a sense

733
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: of humor about this. It's really the only way I

734
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: can deal with it. Yeah, with the Oregon party organ

735
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: and buddy parts of your dead relatives like, hey, you

736
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: want to see this. You're like, I gotta laugh at this. Yeah,

737
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: she's got a lot of brain crystals, super brain crystals.

738
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: No miles and miles later to be exactly, they get

739
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: to Berkeley and they're like, hey, we got the brains.

740
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: We're showing up at your place, right, And then they

741
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: arrive at her place and she's prepared for it, and

742
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: she's like, you know, psychically prepared herself to deal with

743
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: this guy who stole her grandfather's brain decades ago, and like,

744
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: why would he want to show up at her house?

745
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: Going here it's back, I'm sorry, forgive me. She doesn't

746
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: know what he's gonn asked her. Right, he shows up

747
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: and he's the nervous one, right, he won't sit down

748
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: She's all gracious and generous, invites him into her home

749
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: that has this beautiful view of San Francisco. It's a

750
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: really nice Berkeley home. He's sitting there, he stands up.

751
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: The journalist is sitting on the couch with her, the

752
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: two of them having a conversation. He won't sit down.

753
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: They ask him, Hey, you want to sit down, and

754
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: he's like, nope, ask hey you want to sit down?

755
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Four times. It takes before you find He's like, okay,

756
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: he's done wrong. Oh yeah, no's he's highly nervous around her.

757
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: Now she tries to break the ice and so she's

758
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: asking him questions. She's like, hey, did you autopsy the

759
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: whole body? And he's like, oh yeah, the whole body.

760
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: She's like, what was that like. He's like, oh, quote

761
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: why it made me feel humble and insignificant. She's like,

762
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: I can see that all right. And the journalists He's like,

763
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: I got it involved in this. I got a couple

764
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: of questions. Let me pepper him with a couple. And

765
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: so he's like, hey, can we see the brain? Let

766
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: her see the brain and show where the show where

767
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: the deal? Right. He's like, I don't know if that'd

768
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: be a good idea, and she's like, oh, that would

769
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: be wonderful. He's like, okay, let me go get the tupperware.

770
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: So he pulls out the tupperware container that he's got

771
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: the brains in the brain broth in, puts it on

772
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: like the little lenon I imagine like a coffee table,

773
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: and he's like pushes aside the day's newspapers. He's like,

774
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: hearently put space for the brain cracks. Open the lid. Whoa,

775
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: he took the lid off. Takes the lid off. He

776
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: pulls out a piece of her grandfather's brains, holding it

777
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: up hands. Yeah, his hands touching it. It's all formaldehyde

778
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: and the stink is filling the room. It just now

779
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: smells like a Morgan there. And he's like, yeah, you

780
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: want to touch it, and you want to hold it.

781
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: She's like yeah, he won't hand it to her. She's

782
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: like all confused. He's like, yeah, you want to touch it,

783
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: and then he don't hand it to her. She's like,

784
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: what is that? What is this guy's deal? Like right, exactly,

785
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: but the journalist paternity. He's getting annoyed, right, He's like, dude,

786
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: just candor the body part and she's like, oh no, no,

787
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: we just put it back in the tupperware, right, and

788
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: he steals the lid, won't give it to her. It's like,

789
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: it's my grandfather's brain. Let me hold the brain. And

790
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know. Look, I gotta call my cousin.

791
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: He lives in sam Matey. I'm gonna go have dinner

792
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: with him. And she's like, why I had dinner plants

793
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: for all of us. I thought we could go out.

794
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: No, no no, I gotta go see my cousin. I don't

795
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: get out here that often. She's like, so I had

796
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: dinner plans, eyeing the tupper did you bring cayenne pepper?

797
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: So the At this point, Dr Harvey is like, look,

798
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: I gotta split, and he's like, you're gonna give me

799
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: a ride and the journalist is like, no, bro, we're done.

800
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: This is his trip is over. So they diverge pass

801
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: and he just takes off and goes to meet his cousin.

802
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: Ends up taking bart over to stop it. He takes

803
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: a bart over because he's like the guy, the chauffeur

804
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: won't drive me, so he just goes. He takes part. Well,

805
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: then he would have to get on like cal train

806
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: to get down to San Mateo. Oh yeah, totally good car. Yeah,

807
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: a lot of transit options there. Meanwhile, he leaves the

808
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: brain behind in the rental car. These all three of

809
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: them at this point, I'm just like enough they all

810
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: need to get smack in the face heavily. And the

811
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: paternity of the journalists. They go, houtside, they're gonna take

812
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: a little walk coming back from dinner, and they see

813
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: the rental car, and they noticed that the tupper where

814
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: is in back? And she's like, he left the brain?

815
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: Does does he do this? Often? Like what's been going

816
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: on in this rud trip? And Turney's like, no, man,

817
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the deal. The two of

818
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: them look each other like what a cook? He was? Huh, alright,

819
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: look so glad he's gone. Right. He just couldn't bear

820
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: to say, here's the brain like that was. His friend

821
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: checks it, just like I gotta go. I'm out peace.

822
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: So Paternity grabs the brain. They bring it inside, crack

823
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: open the lid. He's like, what's wrong with these people?

824
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: But you want to play with your granddad's brains? So

825
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: she's like she runs her fingers through the golden broth.

826
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: The brains all bobbing in there like stars or galaxies,

827
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: apples at a county fair and us. She's like poking

828
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: around at the brains and she's like, so this is

829
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: what all the fuss is about. She's like, you know,

830
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: running her finger to the brains. Now. He tries, is like,

831
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: can I leave these with you? You just keep these

832
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: aw in the liquid A little slurp, just just a

833
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: little taste. I just always wanted to. Doc would have

834
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: thought it was weird. So she's like reluctant. She's like, no,

835
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't want the brains. You can take them. He's

836
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: like no, no no, I'm just gonna leave them here. She's like,

837
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, you take to start fighting over the brains,

838
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Speaker 1: but nicely and I like actually fighting but casually like no,

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Speaker 1: you take it. In the end, he takes the brains

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00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, I'll take the damn brains. He

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Speaker 1: takes the brains, he gives them back to Dr Harvey.

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Speaker 1: He's like, look here, you take the brains back. Dr

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Speaker 1: Harvey's like I thought we were giving him to her.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was out. And she's like he's like no, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm gonna go write this book, all right,

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00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: so return he checks out. Dr Harvey goes back to

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Speaker 1: Princeton and he takes the brain back to where he

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Speaker 1: got it, to Princeton Hospital, and he's like, how about

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Speaker 1: you guys, will you take the brain? And so he

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Speaker 1: then takes it to this dude, Dr Elliot Crouse, who

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Speaker 1: now has his job. Dr. Elliot Crous is the pathologist

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Speaker 1: at Princeton Hospital, and he commented on how strange this

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Speaker 1: moment was for him. Dr Holle Krouse said, and I quote,

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Speaker 1: he didn't really say anything. He just walked in here

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Speaker 1: and he handed me the cardboard box. I mean, I

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00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: think he was relieved. He looked relieved, but he didn't

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Speaker 1: really say anything. Didn't give me instructions or anything. Just

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Speaker 1: now it's mine. So now this dude has don't say anything,

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Speaker 1: just like you know, you know, so worried that you know,

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Speaker 1: some careless janitor might knock it off the shelf and

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Speaker 1: have like a whitman accident, or that somebody else might

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Speaker 1: come in and steal it. This pathologist he's like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I think I'm gonna have to take this home.

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Speaker 1: He takes the Einstein brain up with him. The Lord

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Speaker 1: of the Energy my precious. So he's over there, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, interestingly, all these people, none of them stopped

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Speaker 1: to think about what would Einstein want with his brains.

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Speaker 1: So Einstein very clearly said, and I quote people showed

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Speaker 1: them to worship my bones. So this is and it

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Speaker 1: isn't even like, oh, I wonder what he would have said.

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Speaker 1: He literally we have to assume that a lies to brains.

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Speaker 1: You know, you had that really beautiful thing of my

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00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: task here is done. Like he's a lot of brain gems.

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Speaker 1: You see him way beyond this, you guys, let him

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Speaker 1: slip his mortal coil, to slip out of his skin

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Speaker 1: and go be one with the universe. But there you go.

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Speaker 1: That is our story of the Albert Einstein brain theft.

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00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: That's a ridiculous takeaway. I'm gonna be really self centered

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Speaker 1: and focused on me right now. Go for it. But

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Speaker 1: my takeaway is that I can dish it out, but

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Speaker 1: I can't take it. I can say lots of gross stuff,

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00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: but when people, when you're telling me all these gross things,

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Speaker 1: I am literally queasy. I was worried, but then also

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Speaker 1: a little excited. My ridiculous takeaway, thanks for asking people

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Speaker 1: saw about me, right now I'm sorry that I haven't

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00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: called time on that yet. All right, fine, yes, thank you, Ralph.

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Speaker 1: Starting with a favorite quote of his, Einstein once said

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Speaker 1: and quote, there are only two ways to live your life.

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Speaker 1: One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other

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Speaker 1: is as though everything is a miracle. Now, for me,

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Speaker 1: that's the ultimate lesson of Einstein. When a finger points

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Speaker 1: to the guy and shows you the wonders of the heaven,

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Speaker 1: don't get hung up on the finger. To stay focused

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Speaker 1: on the wonder, not the finger that pointed it out. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't see how that's so hard to grasp. And also,

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Speaker 1: here's my second part. This at that finger that it's pointing.

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00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: That's the same finger that you could pick a nose with.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing special about a finger, even if it's Einstein's

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Speaker 1: doesn't freaking matter in this case, if it's even if

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Speaker 1: it's his brain, it doesn't freaking matter. It's what we

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Speaker 1: do with the brain that matters far more than the

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Speaker 1: gray matter itself. Perfect, that's all I gotta say. That's it.

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