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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm chandeler Rome, joined as always by Tyler Stafford. Where

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Speaker 1: it is baseball season again, finally the official start of

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Speaker 1: baseball season today with pictures and catchers reporting. I would

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Speaker 1: say here in West Palm Beach, but I'm staying in

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Speaker 1: Lake Worth, Florida this stint that I'm in spring training.

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Speaker 1: So it's about a fifteen minute, twenty minute drive down

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Speaker 1: one of Florida's beautiful freeways to get to West Palm Beach,

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Speaker 1: So the ashers are about twenty minutes away, but they

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Speaker 1: were on the field today most of the pictures and

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Speaker 1: catchers participated and threw Tyler as someone that is consuming

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Speaker 1: this from your perspective, that is just looking at all

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Speaker 1: the bad beat writer photos and videos that were taken

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Speaker 1: across the league today. I'm curious what you're like watching form.

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Speaker 1: What you want to know like the most from the

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Speaker 1: first day of pitchers and catchers.

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Speaker 2: Well, first day back is always scary because that's when

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Speaker 2: everyone's secret injuries get reported. Uh, and you got to

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Speaker 2: do that today? Could you could you give us a

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Speaker 2: brief roundup of the injury news?

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, the biggest news is that Anyeal Dello

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Speaker 1: Santos has a sprained I think it was a right Kney.

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Speaker 1: I should probably know this. Whatever nee was sprained of

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Speaker 1: his I'm gonna look that up right now. While that

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Speaker 1: sounds right, yeah, Rightney strain for annyell Dello Santo's he's

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Speaker 1: shut down. That's that's the relief everybody's talking about, right.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah. What what's going on with Hater? You

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Speaker 2: promised he was fine? Why did you lie to us?

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Speaker 1: I mean the team promised he was fine. Everyone promised

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Speaker 1: he was fine until he wasn't. It would not be

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Speaker 1: a day for pictures and catchers reporting without there being

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Speaker 1: some injury news. Josh Hater is hurt. He's hurt again.

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Speaker 1: I guess I should say. I'm gonna preface it with

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is like hit the panic button,

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Speaker 1: now they're in an okay spot is given the time

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Speaker 1: of the year, it is given how much time he

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Speaker 1: has to build up, and given that he's a reliever,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to build up to throw ninety or

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Speaker 1: one hundred pitches. He has to build up to throw

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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty five pitches. But the gist of it

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Speaker 1: is this, so Josh Hater to hear him describe it.

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Speaker 1: Josh Hater had fully recovered from his shoulder capsule strain

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Speaker 1: forced him to miss last season. He threw three bullpens

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Speaker 1: in November and was up to eighty five eighty six

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Speaker 1: miles an hour in those bullpens. Reported no discomfort, reported

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Speaker 1: no soreness. So, like every pitcher does, he stopped after

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Speaker 1: those three to deload. That's what you ramp up and

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Speaker 1: then you deload. And then as he was doing his

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Speaker 1: build up, his normal build up for spring training, he

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Speaker 1: He was eighty five eighty seven miles an hour, just

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Speaker 1: where he likes to be for that time of year.

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Speaker 1: And then before the fourth bullpen, he said that he

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Speaker 1: was playing catch, threw a change up while playing catch

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Speaker 1: play and felt his bicep grab at him. So the

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Speaker 1: next day he played catch again and tried to throw

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Speaker 1: another change up and the bicep grabbed at him again,

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Speaker 1: and so again. He said it didn't feel like he

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Speaker 1: throwing normal. So he threw normal, and as he was

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Speaker 1: so he decided just to shut it down. He was

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Speaker 1: from that date when he felt the initial bicep inflammation.

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Speaker 1: He was shut down about ten to eleven days. He

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Speaker 1: resumed his throwing program today Wednesday, the first day that

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Speaker 1: pitchers and catchers reported. I watched him throw on the backfields.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if I did not take video of it

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Speaker 1: If you go look at it, I would certainly not

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Speaker 1: any sort of intent behind it. But he was throwing,

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Speaker 1: his arm was still moving, which is relatively good news.

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Speaker 1: I think it would have been worse news Tyler if

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Speaker 1: he if he'd been completely shut down, if we would

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Speaker 1: have heard that he's a no throw, if he'd be

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Speaker 1: and we don't know when he's going to start throwing again.

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Speaker 1: But suffice to say, not the news you want to

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Speaker 1: hear when pictures and catchers report that your ninety five

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Speaker 1: is not on track with the rest of the pictures.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I realized that he threw, so

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Speaker 2: that is I mean, like you said, it wasn't wasn't

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Speaker 2: don't trust the astros. That's not something to panic about. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Until he's healthy, I'm going to be worried that he's

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Speaker 2: going to miss time and that. Uh. You know, look,

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Speaker 2: when your arm hurts, that's scary as a picture it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you'd almost rather it be a knee or

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Speaker 2: soon as that part of your body heals, you're fine.

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Speaker 2: If it's an arm, that's concerning. And also, this is

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Speaker 2: what we get for every year, pressuring these guys to

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Speaker 2: been attempting to add a change up his entire career

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Speaker 2: and it broke him. So quit asking him. Let him

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Speaker 2: throw his sinker and slider in peace and uh, and

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Speaker 2: he'll be back. But uh yeah, that's uh, that's not

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Speaker 2: fun news. How does the Inyal de la Santo's injury

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Speaker 2: impact your bullpen projection? Since he was one of the

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Speaker 2: ones that did not have options, what does that mean

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Speaker 2: for kind of the back end guy that were on

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Speaker 1: Well, real quick on, Hater, really quickly, you said you

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Speaker 1: don't trust the astros, which I completely understand. You don't

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Speaker 1: trust me, which I completely understand. More, if you trust

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Speaker 1: Josh Hater, I'll will put up his comments from today,

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Speaker 1: well so everyone can read them. If you're on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: you can read them. I'll read some of them out loud.

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Speaker 1: Hater described his bicep inflammation as quote a little setback

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Speaker 1: and quote nothing too concerning for me. But he was asked,

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Speaker 1: of course, if he has any indication as to whether

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Speaker 1: this will put him in peril for opening day, and

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Speaker 1: he said, right now, I'm just taking it week by

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Speaker 1: week and seeing how I'm progressing with that not exactly

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Speaker 1: the most ringing endorsement, but something that nonetheless I think

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Speaker 1: is prudent. When you've got two more years on your comment, well,

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Speaker 1: And Josh even said this, like he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: I think the hater and the annial Dello Santo's news

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Speaker 1: kind of jive together because a you're seeing now why

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Speaker 1: the Astros did what they did this offseason in terms

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Speaker 1: of they added six pitchers to the roster. Not all

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Speaker 1: of them are relievers. I understand that, but they did

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Speaker 1: it to where it's been funny like and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: because Dana talked about it today, But we've been talking

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Speaker 1: expecting injuries on the position player side. It's prudent to

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Speaker 1: because those are so much more prevalent. They seem to

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Speaker 1: happen every year. They seem to happen across the sport.

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Speaker 1: This is why the Astros offseason was so pitching focused, because, look,

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Speaker 1: they would rather have Josh Hater on the opening day roster,

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Speaker 1: but they are more than equipped to cover things now. Granted,

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Speaker 1: whoever replaces Josh Hater will not be as good as

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Speaker 1: Josh Hater, but Josh Hater's really, really good. There's very

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Speaker 1: But as far as what it impacts, you know, Niel

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Speaker 1: Della Santos, you're right, he does not have minor league

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Speaker 1: But you mentioned, you know, the opening day bullpen projection

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Speaker 1: You know, they've got some non roster guys in camp,

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Speaker 1: and they have a fellow named Tom Cosgrove on a

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Speaker 2: That's not a real person, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: They do Tom Costgrove. Look it up. He's a he's

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Speaker 1: But I don't think either injury is like serious to

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Speaker 1: And it was funny. Dana Brown was even asked today

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Speaker 1: we don't need to We don't need to make any moves.

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Speaker 1: But I do think the one guy, now that I'm

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Speaker 1: really does help is Kaiwai Tang the Giants, the reliever

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Speaker 1: Dana Brown really really likes him, you know. He call

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Speaker 1: he again today, called him a gut field trade, said

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Speaker 1: in the bullpen. So I think that increases Kaiwai ten

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Speaker 1: like they're better with you know, Enniel Della Santos and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't be the first time that Tang and the

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Speaker 2: Astronauts have have teamed up. So you know, if I

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Speaker 2: go get your orange fizzy drinks, get ready for that. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Jiner Diaz. They have known that he sprained his foot

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Speaker 1: We got the full tetsu Emi experience today, Tyler and

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. The personality was not just a

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Speaker 1: for him to go. And then Dana Brown did say

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Speaker 1: today if he does pitch, if Team Japan needs him

430
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Speaker 1: to pitch, he would do it as a reliever. He

431
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Speaker 1: would not be a starter. So it is not going

432
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Speaker 1: to affect the way the Astros build him up. It

433
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Speaker 1: is not going to affect anything they do in camp.

434
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Speaker 1: But it is out there and it is certainly a

435
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Speaker 1: possibility that he participates in some way in the WBC,

436
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Speaker 1: and it's fascinating because, as we have discussed here, the

437
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: Astros are not keen on their guys participating in the WBC.

438
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Speaker 1: Jim Crane called Carlos Korea and told him to focus

439
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Speaker 1: on the season.

440
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Speaker 2: Can we do a quick bad bunny aside?

441
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Speaker 1: Sure?

442
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Speaker 2: Tell me which is that? Is that true? Did he

443
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Speaker 2: pay for.

444
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Speaker 1: Their I'm waiting that Carlos is not in camp yet.

445
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Speaker 1: I do want to ask him about that. But did

446
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: you see it was interesting? Uh? Ken Rosenthal, friend of

447
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: the pod. He wrote a story last night about my

448
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: the d back, Carlos Santana, who now plays with the

449
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: d Backs. He did not get insurance on his contract

450
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Speaker 1: for the WBC because he's thirty seven years old. The

451
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks said, that's fine, will guarantee your money anyway. Granted,

452
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Speaker 1: Carlos Santana's making two million dollars, Carlos Korea is making

453
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Speaker 1: thirty something and Josel two is making thirty something. But

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Speaker 1: it's just it just rings a little bit odd to

455
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Speaker 1: me that these two guys, especially Altuve, like Korea. I

456
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: completely get with the injury history everything, Like I understand

457
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Speaker 1: that Josel two is the face of your franchise. He

458
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Speaker 1: has already done. You a couple solids in terms of

459
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: moving positions, in terms of taking deals. I mean he's

460
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Speaker 1: left some money on the table to stay in Houston.

461
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Speaker 1: Like especially with Hit the contract extension before this past one,

462
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: the second contract extension he signed, He's left some money

463
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Speaker 1: on the table to stay in Houston, you would think,

464
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Speaker 1: And I guess maybe this is This is me speaking

465
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Speaker 1: from a non business sense, because in a business sense,

466
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Speaker 1: I totally agree with Jim Creen. Like, I get it,

467
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: I understand like it. I hate his label ballplayers as this,

468
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: But if you've got that valuable of an asset, like

469
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Speaker 1: I get protecting him and I get doing everything you

470
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Speaker 1: can to make sure that asset stays protected. But for

471
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Speaker 1: this guy to be the face of your franchise and

472
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: for you to and the thing that just keeps eating

473
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Speaker 1: at me is like the Askers are going to host

474
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Speaker 1: the tournament, and they've made such a big deal about

475
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: hosting the tournament, and to have that juxtaposition with you

476
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: really don't want your guys to play it just kind

477
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: of rubs me the wrong way a little bit. And

478
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Speaker 1: even Dana Brown today he was asked, you know, are

479
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Speaker 1: you okay with with em? I being in the DPP

480
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: and the designated Pittrepool, and his exact quote was, I

481
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: always like for our pictures, if we have the opportunity

482
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Speaker 1: to build them up the way we want to build

483
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Speaker 1: them up here. The fact that he's a replacement, that's

484
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Speaker 1: one thing. But these guys, it's their prerogative. If they

485
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Speaker 1: want to go, it's up to them. But we like

486
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Speaker 1: to build our guys up here as a preference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so does every team. But sure this happens every

488
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Speaker 2: four years, I guess, I mean with I mean, I

489
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: completely agree with you that I want to see those

490
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Speaker 2: guys play. Honestly, I guess it just comes down to

491
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Speaker 2: how badly did I'll do A want it, you know,

492
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Speaker 2: if this is like and we don't know, you know,

493
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Speaker 2: I mean, if this is yeah, I mean, of course

494
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: he wants to do it, but I'm sure there are

495
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: still some fluctuations between, like this is the most important

496
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Speaker 2: thing in my life, or it would be really fun

497
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Speaker 2: to do.

498
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Speaker 1: It, you know.

499
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I wish that that he were playing, especially

500
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Speaker 2: because I don't know that he'll get to do it again,

501
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: you know, but it happens. I do want to know

502
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: if the bad Bunny story is true. So that's that's

503
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: the first question I expect you to ask when when

504
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Speaker 2: they show up to camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will, I will try. I think Carlos. I

506
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: think Carlos would answer that, and I think he'd be

507
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: great about it. If we ever got the opportunity, I'm

508
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: sure it will be asked. If no one does, I will.

509
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: But so, tetsu Emi is a technically a WBC risk.

510
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Speaker 1: If he does participate in the WBC, he would be

511
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Speaker 1: the only Astros major league pitcher on their forty man

512
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: roster to be participating in the WBC, which again underscores

513
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: kind of you know, their their thoughts with all this,

514
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: their thoughts with keeping their players away from the WBC. So,

515
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: but otherwise, that was a little bit of a surprise revelation.

516
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: But he has highlight his hair highlights too.

517
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: Now do you notice that, let's go, he kind of blumber.

518
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: He kind of looks like boy kind of a boy

519
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: bandish kind of thing, late the late nineties, early two thousands,

520
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: boy band like some Carter, some Nick Carter vibes. Nick Carter.

521
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: Well there's two. There's Nick, the older brother, and Aaron.

522
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: Of course, we all had Aaron Carter's debut CD maybe

523
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: it's a party, come get it. Yes, of course, but uh, yeah,

524
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: of course there's two I don't know that.

525
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Didn't he have the song? Where like he couldn't get

526
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Speaker 1: concert tickets for all of his friends.

527
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Speaker 2: And of course I listened to that CD way too

528
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: much in elementary school. I could probably I could probably

529
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: do it with disturbing accuracy if you put on that

530
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Speaker 2: CD for me right now.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it in his memory at some point, because

532
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Carter deserves Aaron Carter deserves the world. Absolutely, We've

533
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: made it thirty minutes. Stop mentioning the Astros in field surplus,

534
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: which has to be a record.

535
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, why have the trade talk slowed?

536
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: At least the last you know eight pod? That has

537
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: to be a record. The trade talks have slowed because

538
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: the two guys, the two teams that were most prevalent

539
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: and in them have made acquisitions. It's weird we have

540
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: not done a podcast in a while because we didn't.

541
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Speaker 1: We haven't covered any of that stuff. The Pirates signed

542
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Marcelo Zuna. Uh, they gave him twelve million dollars. I

543
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: guess to d h and be a a suspect at

544
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: best clubhouse presence and then the Red Sox acquired Caleb

545
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: Durban from the Milwaukee Brewers. If you didn't know who

546
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: Caleb Durban was, I don't blame you. He was in

547
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year consideration last year. He was one

548
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: of those many nameless, faceless Brewers that were the best

549
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: team in baseball for a while. Just on those two

550
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Speaker 1: teams alone, Like Durban probably like very safely takes the

551
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: Red Sox out of any talks. You know, maybe they

552
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: could have an injury in camp and maybe things, you know, reignite,

553
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: But Durban's gonna play third base for them. He was

554
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee's third basement. Like it's a pretty clear plug

555
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: and play, you know. Situation. Ozuna is a little bit different.

556
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: He's a DA and the Pirates really haven't solved their

557
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: third base issue. They have a fellow named Jared Triolo

558
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: that's going to play for them at third base. In theory,

559
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: Ozuna should not take them out of the running for

560
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: Paradis just because I mean, it's twelve million dollars and

561
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: then Paradis is making nine point three, but it's the Pirates.

562
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: They don't really like to spend money. But every move

563
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: they've made this offseason is such a win now move

564
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: that you would think that getting getting a third basement

565
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: with an extra year team control would only help that endeavor.

566
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Speaker 1: So I'm not closing the door. And because we've had

567
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Speaker 1: this issue happen before, I'm going to make it very

568
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: clear this is not me reporting, This is me just

569
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Speaker 1: speculating that I wouldn't close the door completely on the

570
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Speaker 1: Pirates because they still technically do need a third basement,

571
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Speaker 1: but it's less likely now given the payroll that they

572
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: spent on on Ah on Marcelo Zuna. As we've talked about,

573
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: there's five total teams interested, so you take those two out.

574
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Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you the other three. The

575
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: Brewers do make a lot of sense for Paradis they

576
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: in that trade with the.

577
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: Red Sox the entire at third basement.

578
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Correct, they traded their entire third base step chart, And

579
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: you know they're a little raising in and that, like

580
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: they just have guys in the minor leagues that no

581
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: one's ever heard of that come up and somehow put

582
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: together a four and a half win season.

583
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Speaker 2: Astro's legend Ben Zobrist of course did it for the Raids.

584
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Speaker 5: So.

585
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Speaker 1: It would make sense for the Brewers, like, I don't

586
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 1: know if nine point three five million dollars is too

587
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: much for their payroll, but it would make sense and

588
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: they've got to And if the Astros are really looking

589
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: for like young controllable, left handed hitting outfielders, like I'm

590
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: looking at South Freelik, like that makes a lot of sense. Again,

591
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: not saying that they have talked, not saying that that

592
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: is a thing. This is me thinking out loud here.

593
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: And then you're also going to run into teams that

594
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: get injured in camp even today. I mean, we have

595
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: three handmate bones today in Springshire. Francisco Indoors having surgery

596
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: on his handmate bone. The Mets have more than enough infielders.

597
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: They don't need a third basement. Jackson Holiday of the

598
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: Orioles is having surgery on his handmate bone kind of

599
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: the same thing. The Orioles have a lot of young

600
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: position players that I think they're okay in field wise.

601
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: And then Corbyn Carrol of the Diamondbacks is also having

602
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: handmate surgery. The Diamondbacks, we just mentioned the first basement

603
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: they acquired in Carlos Santana, they acquired a third basement

604
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: as well as named Nolan Aernato could have one time Astro's.

605
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: Targets, almost Astro's legend, almost.

606
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: An Astro's legend. But so that's why the trade talks

607
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: have slowed. The trade talks have slowed because the two

608
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: teams that were most prevalent don't aren't as aggressive and

609
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: aren't as needy. But listening.

610
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: So if anyone's taking this to aggregate it, Chandler says,

611
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: it's with Milwaukee. And here's the title I want you

612
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: to use chan The Rome reports trade talks are bruin.

613
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: You're welcome.

614
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: I hate you, hate you, but listen to Dana Brown today.

615
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: Dana was given two opportunities today to basically like put

616
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Speaker 1: a deadline on this to like I think Matt Kalaharror

617
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: of The Chronicle asked him, you know, is there do

618
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: you have a day or a time in mind when

619
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Speaker 1: you're just gonna say this is our roster, like we're

620
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: going into camp, We're going into the season with this roster,

621
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Speaker 1: like we are cutting off trade talks. And I think

622
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: I asked him something like, well, you know, the first

623
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Speaker 1: full squad workout is Monday, Like would you like to

624
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: have some kind of resolution or some clarity by then,

625
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: to avoid some awkwardness, and in both answers to those questions,

626
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: he basically said no. He said, there are no deadlines

627
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: to running a major league roster. There are no you know,

628
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: there are no artificial deadlines in terms of when we

629
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: can do things. He literally said, he's like, guys get

630
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: hurt all the time. I don't think he was talking

631
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: about the Ashers. I think he was talking about other teams,

632
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: Like other teams have guys get hurt all the time

633
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: and are gonna need you know. So suffice to say,

634
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: like they are still actively trying. They are still trying

635
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: to make a trade. They are still trying to make

636
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: and I phrase their new way in the story I

637
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: wrote today just because I got tired of writing it

638
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: the same way, like they are trying actively to make

639
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: their roster more functional, because that's what this is, Like,

640
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: they're not the point of this is not to trade

641
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: esock paratus, Like they do not want to trade esock paradis,

642
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: like if you like, they are team officials that will

643
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: reiterate until the're blue in the face that they do

644
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: not want to do this. But their roster as it

645
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: is currently constructed is not practical. It's not financially practical

646
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: with the resources they have allocated to a timeshare. They

647
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: don't have enough at bats for Paradis, who is, you know,

648
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: their best or one of their best hitters. It's just

649
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: not a practical or functional or versatile roster because they

650
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: don't have that positional flexibility Walker and Paradis where they

651
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: don't have any. So the point of this is not

652
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: to trade Paradus. The point of it is to make

653
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: the roster easier for Joe a spot at a maneuver

654
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: and manipulate, And that's why in these talks they are

655
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: trying to get an outfielder to settle the outfield a little,

656
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: to offer some stability to the outfield, and to make

657
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: the overall roster better. This is not just about like

658
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: salary dumping Esac Paradis. That's not the point here.

659
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would prefer the weighted out approach.

660
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any need to figure it out

661
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: by Monday, because especially I agree with you that the

662
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: long term that the roster is not how you would

663
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: want it to be. But for the first month of

664
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: a season, you can play jord On in left field.

665
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: Most days, you can DH par eighties you can let

666
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: him in the field every once in a while, I'll

667
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 2: two bays at second, Like, you can make it work

668
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: in the short term. I mean, again, you don't want

669
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: to run yord On out in left field one hundred

670
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: and thirty games this year. You want for him to

671
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: have a DH spot. But you can make it work

672
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks until some other team needs

673
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: him or you find out, hey, this works or it doesn't.

674
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: But it's not like that it's unplayable. The roster that

675
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: they have right now, they still can get all of

676
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: their best bats in the lineup when they need to,

677
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 2: so they're not under any pressure on that end where

678
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: it's like, well, what are we going to do on

679
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: Opening Day? You can still get all of those guys

680
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: in the lineup. You can make it work, right.

681
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: It's possible, and we've talked about it. But it's going

682
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: to put a lot of emphasis on Joe a Spot's

683
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: ability to communicate, Like if they go into the season

684
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: with this setup, like Joe's gonna have to do a

685
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: pretty damn good job of communicating to these guys like

686
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: all right, you're in the lineup today, this day because

687
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: of this, this and this and then he's also gonna

688
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: have to at the same time be willing to change

689
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: that plan if Esak Paradis goes on a heater and

690
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: he can't take him out of the lineup, or if

691
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: Christian Walker goes on a heater and you can't take

692
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: him out of the lineup, and and then, and I

693
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: kind of mentioned this in a story I wrote the

694
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: other day, then you have to also go to Carlos Korea,

695
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: Jeremy Panna, Jose al Tuvan jord and Alvarez and tell

696
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: them like, hey, if either of these guys get on

697
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: a heater, like we may have to sit you for

698
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: a game or two to get them in the lineup,

699
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: just because that's the only way this can work. And

700
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: then that's when it's going to become interesting, because look,

701
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 1: these guys are pulling on the same rope, like they're

702
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: gonna say everything right publicly about its team. First, we're

703
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna do everything that we want the team to win.

704
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: But I'm not trying to be old man yelling out

705
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: a cloud. I'm not trying to be you know, conceited

706
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: or but I've been around enough big league clubhouses to

707
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: understand that that's not going to work. It's not going

708
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: to go well when you have this many veteran players,

709
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: this many established, very good veteran players that have past

710
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: and present track records of being elite players. When you

711
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: have to tell them you have to sit out, or

712
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: you have to sit the bench today, or you don't

713
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: know what, Like I'm telling you, it's not going to

714
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: go well. And Joe can be as master of a

715
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: communicator as he wants. These guys can say all the

716
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: right things in public, and they will. They'll say all

717
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: the right things in the media if they're if Paradus

718
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: and Walker are still around on Monday, if they're both

719
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: on the roster Monday, I guarantee you they will all

720
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: say the right things and there will be a segment

721
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: of people that read everything they say and be like, see,

722
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: I told you, I told you they can do this.

723
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: I told you it'll be okay, Like they're fully on board.

724
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: Just gonna tell you. Ryan Presley did the exact same

725
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: thing two years ago when they signed Josh Hater, and

726
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: we know how that went. The parallels from that situation

727
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: of this one are very very apparent. And again they

728
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: made it work for a season.

729
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: They made it.

730
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: Work with Josh Hater and Ryan Presley. Like Presley, they

731
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: didn't start off the year great, but they both ended

732
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: up pitching pretty well toward the end of the year.

733
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: They coexisted and it worked. So yes, it can work,

734
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: but the amount of I don't even want to say distractions,

735
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: but just the amount of chatter it's going to cause,

736
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: the amount of let's be clear, like egos too, Like

737
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: egos get involved here like these are. I don't want

738
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: this to come off pejoratively, because I don't think it is.

739
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: But like most most baseball players are high maintenance individuals.

740
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: You have to be, you have to be to be that.

741
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: Good you have to be. And when you get this

742
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: many high maintenance individual again not at all an insult

743
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: to any of those guys, but when you get this

744
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: many high maintenance individuals and you have to appease, have

745
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: to try to appease all of them, when there's really

746
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: no way that they're going to be able to appease

747
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: all of these guys if they're all healthy. I'm just

748
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: telling you it may not go well.

749
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: This is a classic case of it'll work. If it

750
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: works if they're twenty to and ten, we won't hear

751
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: anything about this right, but you know, they come out

752
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: and they can't score and they're getting beat by the Rockies.

753
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 2: That's that's when you hear about it. But I'm sure

754
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: something will have been figured out before then.

755
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: But God willing, because I'm tired of talking about it.

756
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: I really am, Like I mean, I'm tired of talking

757
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: about it, like I would much rather you know, well,

758
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd rather talk about Josh Hater

759
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: being injured but rather talk about like actual on field stuff.

760
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: It's weird, like we somehow got forty one minutes out

761
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: of this, but like it it's weird that, like I

762
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: really get so excited about the first day of pitchers

763
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: and catchers, but like it's very eyewash is probably too

764
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: strong of a term. But like Carlos Krey is not here,

765
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: Josel Twov is not here, Paradis and Walker aren't here.

766
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: The only two position players really of any import of

767
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: is not as slight to anyone else, but the only

768
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: two established position players that are here are Cam Smith

769
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: and Jeremy Pania. Bryce Matthews is here. A couple of

770
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: the non roster guys you should look at, Lucas Spence

771
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: and Joseph Sullivan are here, Shae Wickham's here. Shaye Wickham

772
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: gets to go to Japan. He's playing for Team Korea

773
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: and the WBC. He's very excited to go to Japan.

774
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: And I can't blame him because he was very excited

775
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: today because he gets a translator when he goes. So

776
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: he's very excited that he gets he gets to have

777
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: his own translator. It's a whole thing. I'm excited for

778
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: Shay Wickham to go to Japan and play for you.

779
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: For him, that'll be fun.

780
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: That'll be fun.

781
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: Is it cherry blossom season? Is it March? Is that

782
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: when it is over there? Let's find out?

783
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: You are asking them?

784
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: I know, like, hang on, We're gonna find out because

785
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: that's on my bucket list, Japanese cherry blossoms. He's late

786
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: March to early April. There we go. So he's gonna

787
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna just miss it. But that's okay. He'll get

788
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: the first parts of it.

789
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: He'll still get some uh, he'll still get some good food,

790
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: I think, and he'll still get some good sight seeing

791
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: in Tell him.

792
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: Tell him about Phoebe Bridges Kyoto. If he hadn't heard

793
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: that one, listen to that one on the plane.

794
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: What what did you just say? Who is Phoebe Bridgers?

795
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: What do you mean? Who is Phoebe Bridges?

796
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing Girl from Friends.

797
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: That's that's that album that I have Right there is

798
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: her album Punisher. It's wonderful, Get Get cultured. This is

799
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: embarrassing for you?

800
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Is Smellie kat On there? It's the girl from Friends? Right?

801
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: Come on?

802
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: Did you know? So? I've been on a rabbit hole

803
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: since the Bad Bunny halftime show, which we are not

804
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: going to discuss here for many reasons. It was great,

805
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 1: by the way, But since the Bad Bunny halftime show,

806
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: like I've been going back and watching like previous Super

807
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: Bowl halftime shows because what else am I going to

808
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: do in an Airbnb in Lakeworth? It's funny. Did you

809
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: know that when The Weekend did the halftime show a

810
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, could have sworn that was a band.

811
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: You didn't know that it was just a guy.

812
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I did not know. I thought it was a band.

813
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 2: Come on, this is this is rough?

814
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: And then like they came out and I was like, Oh,

815
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: where's like the rest of it?

816
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: And if you're really cool, you just call him Abel

817
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: because his friend. You know that's his real name. So

818
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: if you if you want to just show that you're cool,

819
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: you throw that out there. We need we need to

820
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: get you cultured more. This is this is a rough

821
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: look for you.

822
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: Well, good thing it came. Oh when isn't it a

823
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: rough look for me?

824
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: True?

825
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: Good thing it came for you.

826
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: What pringles are we working with back there? What flavored?

827
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 5: You go?

828
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: So many like snacks I have, so I have I

829
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: have like the sun. I have the Cheddar sonships in

830
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: the in the pringles can, and then I have Cheddar

831
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: and sour cream pringles. There are many sonships.

832
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: They're like little I thought you meant you took them

833
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: out of a bag and put them in a pringles can,

834
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: and I was going to be concerned.

835
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: There are many. There are the many Cheddar sonships in

836
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: the pringles can. And then I have Cheddar and sour

837
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: cream Pringles. I have some like breakfast protein bars and stuff.

838
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: So I don't have to spend the New York Times

839
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: as money at like Duncan or anywhere.

840
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: So the New York Times Bachelor life over there, just.

841
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean I live bachelor life twenty four to seven.

842
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: So this is nothing new for me.

843
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: If with players report Monday, when when do people start

844
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: showing position players?

845
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: Position players will report Sunday, the first the first full

846
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: squad workout is Monday, but position players will are are

847
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: expected to report on Sunday.

848
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: So, oh, I had a question earlier on the list

849
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: of the mounds, you said there's five. Is there a

850
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: hierarchy of the mounds? Like is it better to be

851
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: on mound one than on mound five? Can you tell

852
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: who's good or not based on where they're pitching?

853
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: So like if you go look where Emi through today,

854
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: Like he threw off of the closer, I'm gonna call

855
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: that mound one. He threw that on the closer mound

856
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: usually like Justin Verlander threw off that mound Garrett Cole

857
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: when he was here. Like, usually the guys with service

858
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: time get that closer mound. But then there're sometimes when

859
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: like they just want to get their work done and

860
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Speaker 1: get out, Like if mound five at the at the

861
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: other sides open and they got a tea time in

862
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: an hour, like they're gonna go to Mound five, throw

863
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: their twenty pitches, do their d load and showering, go

864
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Speaker 1: go have a tea time.

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Speaker 2: Hey, while we're in go ahead, you go first?

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Speaker 1: Minds Justin Burlanders a Tiger again?

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Speaker 2: I saw that. Okay, I do have a hot take

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Speaker 2: on that. I think this changes the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: hat consideration, and I think he's guaranteed now to be

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Speaker 2: an Attiger's at I think it was pretty close to

871
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty before this, and especially if he had

872
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: returned to the Astros, I think this settles it. I

873
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: think he's for sure in a Tiger's hat now, especially

874
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Speaker 2: if he does anything at all with him this year,

875
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: or if this team is good, even if he's not

876
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 2: important to the team, if he's just in the dugout

877
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Speaker 2: and they go one a run, he's he's wearing a

878
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: Tiger's hat in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd almost say, as long as they don't disgrace them,

880
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Like as long as it's not like what they did

881
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: last year, like blow a division lead and then like

882
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: barely scrape into the playoffs. Like if they get to

883
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: the Alds, the Alcs like it. Yeah, and like I

884
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a pretty integral part of

885
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: that team. But like he's like the fourth starter, which

886
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: is pretty good. Like that rotation's insane mm hm, But yeah,

887
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good one. I think I totally agree

888
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: with you. I think it was I think he probably

889
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: would have gone Detroit if if he would have retired

890
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: after leaving the Giants, like let's say he were this winner,

891
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: he would have retired. I think it would have been

892
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. But I think he would have gone

893
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: Detroit just because of the volume of years he spent there,

894
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: even if the magnitude of what he accomplished was better

895
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: in Houston. But I think, yeah, I think you're one

896
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: hundred percent right. I think this solidifies that he's going

897
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: in as a Tiger. And it's tough because it's it's

898
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: interesting because like you could really make a case he's

899
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: the best starting pitcher that's ever worn an Astros. You could,

900
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: you could make a legitimate case, like I get roy Oswalt,

901
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: I get Nolan Ryan, I get Jarl Richard.

902
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I think we're saying best. I think

903
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: you would still say Roger Clemens. Granted it was a

904
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: much shorter time. You're not saying full career. I'm with you.

905
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: I mean, right there, they did.

906
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what they did in an Astro's uniform.

907
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's up there for sure.

908
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: Like I find it hard to I just everything he accomplished,

909
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Like I find it hard to believe that. I'll listen

910
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: to Oswalt, I'll listen to J R. Richard, I'll listen

911
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: to Nolan Ryan, I'll listened to Roger Clemens even but

912
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 1: Wandy Rodriguez, Shane Reynolds, HM, Briango, Lima of course, Rip,

913
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Speaker 1: Octavio Dotel, r P not Yeah, we've talked about this before,

914
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: but that bullpen the year that it was Lydge, Dotel

915
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: and Wagner just game over in the sixth inning. It

916
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: was so much fun. Uh Ken of course, hard hitter. Okay,

917
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you're not familiar with the YouTube channel

918
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Speaker 1: Outdoor Boys. It is uh it is a dad and

919
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: his kids. They would go do fun outdoor adventures. Normally

920
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: they're up in Alaska, but Olivia and I recently watched

921
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: the one where they're down in Florida.

922
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Speaker 2: So this is where it's relevant to you. They went, uh,

923
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Speaker 2: python hunting because pythons are an invasive species in Florida,

924
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 2: and so my to you is to gather up two

925
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Speaker 2: or three of the guys on the backfields after after

926
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Speaker 2: they're done, take the boys out python hunting and write

927
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Speaker 2: us a good story.

928
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Speaker 1: I'm down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked awesome.

930
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: I mean how big was how how big was the

931
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Speaker 1: thing they killed?

932
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: The one that they killed was like nine feet it

933
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: was like a and then they had it. They had

934
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Speaker 2: the skin or whatever sent back to them. Look pretty sick.

935
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Speaker 2: Get the boys out there.

936
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Speaker 1: How did they kill it? Did they just shoot it?

937
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: Uh? Well one of them they just grabbed it, and

938
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Speaker 2: the absolutely not. Yeah, well with the guide, I don't think.

939
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Speaker 2: But then the kid was like holding it around like

940
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: while the guide held the neck of it. I'll send

941
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Speaker 2: you the video after this. Uh, it's a it's a

942
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: good one. But I think you would get some interest.

943
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 2: I think you could get a good story.

944
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: Imagine that being imagine that being your job. You're a

945
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: guide to go hunt pythons.

946
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: Well, I've been watching The Traders. Rob is a snake wrangler.

947
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: I went to school for. I went to school for

948
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Speaker 1: the wrong stuff.

949
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's training recap.

950
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: Yes, that went off the rails very quickly. If you're

951
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: into python hunting, or if you're in the WBC takes

952
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: or figuring out who Phoebe Bridge of Carter, Aaron Carter,

953
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: Phoebe Bridges, whoever they are. You can subscribe to the

954
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: Crush Shitty Territory YouTube channel that would help us out.

955
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Speaker 1: You can follow me on x Chandler Underscore room. You

956
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,120
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957
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959
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Speaker 1: every time we post a new video. We'll probably be

960
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: back on this weekend, Saturday or Sunday. They could make

961
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: a trade between now and then. Something could happen, someone

962
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: else could get hurt. Who knows, but we're kind of

963
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: dependent on what happens. But we will be back at

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Speaker 1: some point this week. Until then, thank you for listening

965
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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: People, Alla, bround, you got to come get it from

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Speaker 2: the left to the right. Noise.

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Speaker 1: Bye.