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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett Now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Listen to a live on a Thursday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program Merely Bow and Gibbe. Hello, Gibbet, Hi, how

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Speaker 2: are you? Oh? I'm real well, sun's out for what

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Speaker 2: do we got today?

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: And then tomorrow night it starts to get Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: feel what we need a case?

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, because the wife was like, hey, we got

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Speaker 4: to get some stuff done and around the yard today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the people. They're going to come this

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Speaker 2: afternoon to do the mowing. They're gonna get gonna knock

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Speaker 2: that out. And because it's getting those people later, Yes,

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Speaker 2: zero are you are? I would like to do that.

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Speaker 2: And I do think that the boys are getting pretty

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Speaker 2: close to they're not old enough to handle a zero

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Speaker 2: turn no and very poorly correct, But I was. It's

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Speaker 2: funny when I think about what I was doing at

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Speaker 2: age twelve ten and eight diverses to what they are

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Speaker 2: doing at age twelve ten and eight. It was dramatically different.

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Speaker 2: I definitely was riding driving the riding lawnmower by the time.

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Speaker 2: I was bootsies age for sure. But again, what were

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Speaker 2: you going to run into? Sure, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of infinite. You just drove up and

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Speaker 2: just drive it straight. I mean, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: They're not a whole lot of damaging. No, no, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would like to move off of, hopefully in the

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Speaker 2: next couple of years, from landscaping to in house operations

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Speaker 2: is what I would like. Zero turn. I think I

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Speaker 2: get great pleasure out of mowing the lawn. I think

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Speaker 2: it's great. It's therapeutic for me. I love it. I

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Speaker 2: like the patterns, like the vibration, have a pop. That's

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Speaker 2: why I got a two cup holders. See how are

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Speaker 2: you one? Can you just go turn up down, turn up?

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Speaker 2: There we go. Yeah, No, it's I like it. I

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Speaker 2: liked it.

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Speaker 4: I do like doing it, and I feel like I

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Speaker 4: think when you mow the lawn there is a sense

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Speaker 4: of accomplishment when you see the lines and you take

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Speaker 4: the pride and take the time and you don't just

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Speaker 4: race through it.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. There are so few things.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting. Our job, what you and I have

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Speaker 2: chosen to do, is a livelihood. We don't physically build things,

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Speaker 2: but we build things with audio or in the back

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Speaker 2: of my old days, visually, uh, in addition to audio.

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Speaker 2: And but you build it over the course of a time.

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Speaker 2: A red light comes on and you start talking, and

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Speaker 2: then a red light goes off and you're done, and

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Speaker 2: then it's off to Pluto and you don't see it again.

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Speaker 2: The next day you got to build it all over again.

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Speaker 2: So in terms, I think probably why you and I

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Speaker 2: have a similar feeling about when I used to mow

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Speaker 2: the lawn and why you still do and why you

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Speaker 2: think why you get that sense of accomplishment. There aren't

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Speaker 2: many things that take a long time to do. You

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Speaker 2: you get to see your full accomplishment. Yeah, you look

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Speaker 2: back on it. I think about people like in their

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Speaker 2: builders and those type of things, like you look, there

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Speaker 2: is a lot going on in a day. Yeah, that's well,

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Speaker 2: like job well done.

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Speaker 4: The next morning, when you're taking the dogs out, you're like,

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Speaker 4: look at this, look at my look at this? All right,

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Speaker 4: look at your giant Yeah it's great.

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Speaker 2: The grass is so long that the buddy bombs are

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Speaker 2: nearly impossible to find. You really need like that comb

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Speaker 2: that they used when they when Dark Helmet was combing

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Speaker 2: the desert. That's kind of what I need to go

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Speaker 2: through to find I can't we Me and the boys

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Speaker 2: walked it yesterday. I found three after they had walked,

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Speaker 2: and I found three more than my wife this morning,

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Speaker 2: because I don't want the mowers hitting it correct. It's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got you get that, you get it in

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Speaker 4: the tire treads, well, it's everywhere.

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Speaker 2: It spreads everyway. I just don't want that, so I

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Speaker 2: want to I'm very specific about making sure we get it.

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Speaker 2: And she walked it this morning and she's found two

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Speaker 2: more and I'm going, you can't see it in this stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's so deep right now. They were just here last week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it's just been a lot of rain.

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Speaker 4: The sun that was the you know what, For as

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Speaker 4: it it. Mine seems to just explode when the sun's out.

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Speaker 4: It's sun, when it's just full sun.

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Speaker 2: Now, to be fair, it did rain NonStop for a month,

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Speaker 2: so it probably banked a lot of the good rain, sure,

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Speaker 2: which could be which could be a part of it.

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Speaker 2: But yes, no, it's it's out of control. So you're

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Speaker 2: getting it done today. Uh yeah, we.

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Speaker 4: Will definitely be getting it done today. I mean we're

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Speaker 4: out of town Saturday, You're gone for a couple of days,

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Speaker 4: and uh, it's got to get I gotta get it.

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Speaker 4: I got to keep ahead of it, otherwise it becomes

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Speaker 4: a big, big problem.

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Speaker 4: So, and then like yesterday playing golf, the Golf League,

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Speaker 4: the Hooligans League back better than ever.

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Speaker 2: Was this the debut week for league play? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So, like the first couple rounds you're playing, you're established

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Speaker 4: in the old handicap. And then yesterday was the first

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Speaker 4: match play of the year and.

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Speaker 2: The rough was on the final hole.

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Speaker 4: I almost harkened back to the Memorial Golf tournament base.

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Speaker 4: I could not see my shoes and I'm like, I

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Speaker 4: hit the ball and I'm having a great round. I

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Speaker 4: ended up shooting the forty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel good about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, considering what these scores have been over the past,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm doing pretty well. I get to

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Speaker 4: that hole and I mean I have two good shots.

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Speaker 4: I'm about one hundred and sixty yards out. I mean

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Speaker 4: it took me three to get to the greend. I

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Speaker 4: just could not get out of the rough, just in

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Speaker 4: the air for like fifty yards and just down right

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Speaker 4: back into the cabbage.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, can we mow this? You gotta get those things.

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Speaker 2: The pace of play is damaged tremendously by that.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there are a few people, uh in our

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Speaker 4: then there are those in the league the league should

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Speaker 4: be a sitcom because the drama and some of the

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Speaker 4: politics once in a while to creep in. Uh, it's entertaining. Uh,

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Speaker 4: you have some that don't understand. Yeah, I mean the

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Speaker 4: the one guy in our league is nicknamed the human

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Speaker 4: rein Deway.

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Speaker 2: And he knows it. What's he doing? Not playing? Ready?

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Speaker 2: Staring over everything and practice swinging to death?

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Speaker 4: Then correct like walking to his ball, like I'm walking

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Speaker 4: to my ball because the guy that I'm riding with

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Speaker 4: is on the other end. I'm like here, like let

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Speaker 4: me outright here, I'm gonna grab a club. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: go over there and hit, and then I'm gonna come

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Speaker 4: to you and like pick me up on your way

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Speaker 4: back and play ready golf So you've got you've got

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Speaker 4: a couple that aren't ready golfers, but then you've got

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Speaker 4: a couple that are. If I can get my round

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Speaker 4: done in an hour ten minutes, that would be great.

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Speaker 2: And so I would rather be with those guys than

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Speaker 2: the rein to lay guy. I'll take a round over

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Speaker 2: in an hour and a half over rain delay guy. Sure,

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Speaker 2: I'll go that way. I do.

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Speaker 4: But I'm also like, I mean, there's there's twenty four

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Speaker 2: Man. Furthermore, where are you going to if there's twenty

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Speaker 2: four in your league? If you're playing an hour and

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Speaker 2: a half pace, It's not like you're gonna go ahead.

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Speaker 2: There's somebody that's waiting on the next tea box. That

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Speaker 2: was the That was the debate last night. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: that probably just needs to be a universal accepted amount,

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Speaker 2: like a shot clock per hole.

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Speaker 4: So it got brought up last night like a time

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Speaker 4: everyone should have whistles and there should be a whistle.

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Speaker 4: So the group in front of you, yeah, is like, oh,

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Speaker 4: we're getting whistled.

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Speaker 2: Well, let pick up the pace. What is a reasonable

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Speaker 2: is twelve minutes or reasonable time for four people to

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Speaker 2: play a hole? With carts. Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 2: that might be probably too much. Is that too much?

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Speaker 2: It should be ten ten minutes? Four people? Well, four people,

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Speaker 2: you're humming. I mean I don't by the time you

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Speaker 2: would if you go from the time that you walk

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Speaker 2: probably humming with four unless you have four car twelve.

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Speaker 4: I mean that might make more sense. It's just under

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Speaker 4: two hours at that point. Yeah, right, like if you're

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Speaker 4: an hour and a half hour and forty five, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's your with a four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's where you want to be. Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: It's fine. I was great last night. Yeah, it's when

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Speaker 4: it's seventy It was seventy five degrees.

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Speaker 2: The pollen's crazy awful.

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Speaker 4: What is just there's just water basically coming out of it.

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Speaker 2: I sat down in one of the Adirondack chairs that

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Speaker 2: My whole back was just covered in pollen dust.

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Speaker 4: It's brutal, absolutely brutal. Not great. Was there a little

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Speaker 4: pool time last night?

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Speaker 2: Always time, always time for a little pool time. They

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Speaker 2: have big excitement for the pool. This time of year,

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Speaker 2: much less excitement for the pool. By the time you

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Speaker 2: get into August September, you're kind of like, go use it.

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Speaker 2: Why But now it's like every opportunity new they're in. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we had did I tell you what that buddy

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Speaker 2: Garretty jumped in and the chaos that came with that. No,

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Speaker 2: So he's eighteen months he's terrified of it. Okay, now

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Speaker 2: he's a golden retriever, so like it's in the brochure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So last year when we opened it, I brought him

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Speaker 2: just panic, And I was talking to my pool guy

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Speaker 2: and he's like, honestly, if he don't like it, don't

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Speaker 2: force it. It's a mess. You get hair everywhere in

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Speaker 2: all the filters. You got to clean him because you

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Speaker 2: can't have we have saltwater pool, but they're still chlorine

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Speaker 2: in it, so like you can't have that on him.

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Speaker 2: You got to wash him off, which that's pure joy

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Speaker 2: anytime you get to do that. Fun. So and then

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Speaker 2: I worry about any sort of damage that he could

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Speaker 2: do to himself first and foremost, then secondly to anything else.

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Speaker 2: So he this was I was cooking dinner. This would

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Speaker 2: have been Tuesday night, and Bootsy and and Beamsy were

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Speaker 2: pool kids, God almighty, what's happened? Do I gotta jump?

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Speaker 2: Am I jumping in? What am I doing? And I

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Speaker 2: had a platter of chicken that I was gonna put

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Speaker 2: as I walk outside, Uh, Bootsy is sprinting. The first

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Speaker 2: thing I do is I go head count Where are

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Speaker 2: my heads? So I had to I bought that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: everyone's alive. We're fine. So Bootsy comes sprinting up. Dad Dad,

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Speaker 2: Buddy chopped at the pool. He chopped at the pool.

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Speaker 2: on to be Gsu Gibbs, you can do that. This

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Speaker 2: I'm very much saddened by this. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: From one to Unfortunately, we have to go forward.

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Speaker 6: Just let it go straight through at the next level

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Speaker 6: That's correct. This this happened yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this was a This was a conversation we had.

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Speaker 4: Higher a lower segment yesterday. I'm like, Griff, you need

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Speaker 2: Well, your uncle Bo decided to intervene with this search,

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Speaker 6: I thought about doing it last night. So I'm glad

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Speaker 2: even with the way that the sport has become at

435
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Speaker 2: the collegiate level, even more so now exacerbated by NAL

436
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Speaker 2: and free transfer and all of it, Yeah, you just

437
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: don't know when a guy's going to click and it's no,

438
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Speaker 2: it's really difficult. So while I appreciate, you know, like

439
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Speaker 2: these draft guys, this is their job, right, they're in

440
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Speaker 2: the content business. They answer, churn it out. You appreciate that,

441
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Speaker 2: but at the same time, like, who the hell knows, man,

442
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Speaker 2: they don't know anymore than anybody else.

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Speaker 4: And going back to my homes, I mean, Texas Tech

444
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 4: played zero defense. No it was, but there was no

445
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Speaker 4: defense play being played in that entire conference at that time.

446
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Speaker 4: It was the first team to sixty points. So you

447
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 4: were like, all right, he could throw the ball and

448
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 4: he could sling it. Can he do it against the defense? Yes,

449
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Speaker 4: but I mean that was the question at the time,

450
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Speaker 4: Like that was the big like is he talented, Yes,

451
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Speaker 4: no question, he's talented. Can he actually do it against

452
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Speaker 4: the defense?

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Speaker 2: You know?

454
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Speaker 4: How big was the actual playbook? Like there was all

455
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Speaker 4: of that. I remember that.

456
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Speaker 2: I mean.

457
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Speaker 4: Beyond exceeding expectations. I mean, they're gonna they're gonna get

458
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Speaker 4: a brand new stadium because of him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's no question that that is gonna have.

460
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Speaker 2: That is that that's part of the economic impact of it.

461
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Speaker 2: And you hit on one and you think of the

462
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Speaker 2: value of it, you bring up the stadium issue. The

463
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Speaker 2: first thing that comes to my mind is Peyton Manning. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 2: if Peyton Manning is not drafted and a hit that

465
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Speaker 2: he is to the level he is, are the Indianapolis

466
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Speaker 2: Colts still the Indianapolis Colts. They're playing in the RCAA

467
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Speaker 2: Dome at the time, or the Hoosier Dome previously, that

468
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Speaker 2: place was antiquated and done. And because of Manning and

469
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Speaker 2: his success, they built a palace downtown which impacted the

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Speaker 2: downtown as much as any stadium NFL team impacted any

471
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Speaker 2: downtown in America. You get Super Bowls, They've gotten Final four,

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls, all of it. The combine stays there, all

473
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Speaker 2: of it. It's all because they did it, and it's

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Speaker 2: all because of Manning. If Manning ends up, like if

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Speaker 2: they had gone Ryan Leif and it had gone that way,

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Speaker 2: who knows, what's what? What became of the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: you're right, I mean there's that.

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Speaker 4: I don't the Peyton Denver thing didn't go that way,

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Speaker 4: but they already had a system in place out.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean Sean Payton in Denver or Peyton Manning? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What well what that did? That did? So they already

482
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Speaker 2: had the stadium situation at that point. They already Investco

483
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Speaker 2: or whatever it's called now, the New Mile High I

484
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Speaker 2: think what the Peyton Manning what his kind of butterfly

485
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Speaker 2: effect with the Broncos was It allowed for John Elway

486
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Speaker 2: to get out of jail free card. Yeah, because LA

487
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Speaker 2: couldn't draft a quarterback. Remember, I mean they tried everybody,

488
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Speaker 2: they tried drafting all those quarterbacks. Couldn't land On When

489
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Speaker 2: he was the GM, he's and had a personnel and

490
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Speaker 2: he convinced Manning to go to Denver. And it was

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Speaker 2: between Denver, San Francisco and Tennessee from Manning. So were

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Speaker 2: the three that it was. And he didn't want to

493
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Speaker 2: have to play his brother, you know, so he and

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Speaker 2: that was the one where Harbaugh like played catch with

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Speaker 2: him and receiver gloves and all that stuff. Different bird

496
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Speaker 2: that guy, but that was that was a part of it.

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Speaker 2: And then you know he goes to Denver. They won

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, but he the year they won the

499
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl was he was a shell of himself. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's the Joe Thomas. What if we talked about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well and you could we talked about Peyton Manning

502
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Speaker 4: when we talk about this, but you could also Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: I mean built, there's a great one.

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Speaker 4: Their new stadium and it's an outdoor mall around it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, that's that's what place correct, Yeah,

506
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Speaker 2: and everything all of the popularity with them. We've talked

507
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Speaker 2: to Jimmy Donovan about this the Voice, and we were

508
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Speaker 2: talking about the where the Patriots were in the pecking

509
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Speaker 2: order of Boston sports before Brady, and it was Red Sox, Celtics, Bruins, Patsy.

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Speaker 2: Now you talk to people around in the Boss area now,

511
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Speaker 2: certainly during the Brady years, it was Pats like that

512
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Speaker 2: they had jumped above the rest of it. So yeah,

513
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Speaker 2: that's the value of these picks and also just the

514
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Speaker 2: complete uncertainty around all of it. One other thing I

515
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Speaker 2: wanted to mention. So last night I was watching the

516
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Speaker 2: CONCA CALF Champions League semi final. So this is the

517
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Speaker 2: Columbus Crew of Major League Soccer just down the road

518
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Speaker 2: in Columbus. They have been one of the best. Me

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Speaker 2: you can make an argument it's been the best sports

520
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Speaker 2: operation in the state of Ohio since HSG took ownership

521
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Speaker 2: along with the Edwards family. They've won the league twice,

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Speaker 2: They've won the Campionis Cup a couple of years ago,

523
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Speaker 2: and now they are trying to win the Champions League

524
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Speaker 2: CONCA CAF Champions League. So they were in Monterey last night.

525
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Speaker 2: They had won the game in Columbus last week and

526
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Speaker 2: then this was the return of it. It is one

527
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Speaker 2: zero in the forty fifth minute. Monterey Crew score right

528
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Speaker 2: before half, which means because the away goal thing that

529
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Speaker 2: Monterey now has scores to score two goals in the

530
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Speaker 2: second half in an effort to advance. So you can

531
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Speaker 2: kind of just camp it in if you want. You

532
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: could win cruited irridom scored two more goals, absolutely dominated

533
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Speaker 2: and they've put themselves into position now to play for

534
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Speaker 2: the CONCACAFF Champions Cup. This is used to be CONCACAFF

535
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: Champions League, much similar to the UEFA Champions League that

536
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 2: happens in Europe. And so they will play Pachuka in

537
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: the final June first and attempt to be just the

538
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Speaker 2: fourth MLS team to ever win the Champions League. So

539
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Speaker 2: this is the best teams in MLS and the best

540
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Speaker 2: teams in Mexican's top division. They play this tournament. They

541
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Speaker 2: will try to be the fourth team to do it.

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Speaker 2: Is there a birth in some kind of World Cup

543
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Speaker 2: Club team, So that's a brand new thing. That is

544
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Speaker 2: the UEFA Club World Cup that will place in twenty

545
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Speaker 2: twenty five in America as kind of a precursor to

546
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Speaker 2: the World Cup which is in twenty twenty six. So

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Speaker 2: in that are teams that they've been qualifying for that

548
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Speaker 2: for I think four years, and that will be teams

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Speaker 2: you've heard of like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich and

550
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Speaker 2: Manchester City. Those teams have qualified for that, and so

551
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Speaker 2: those teams will be over here next summer participating that.

552
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Speaker 2: So the winner of that gets fifty million dollars the

553
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: coleillion dollars for a team like the Crew. That is

554
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 2: an incredible winfall for Real Madrid. That's about what it

555
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: costs to pay Killing and Bappe next year for a week.

556
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Speaker 2: That's the reality of the financial discrepancies between the two clubs.

557
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: But it's just unprecedented stuff, and they if you have

558
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: not been down there and you've not gone what they

559
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: did with the stadium, what they have done with that franchise,

560
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: it is everything that that city and franchise deserved has

561
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Speaker 2: been given. They were the first soccer specific stadium stadium

562
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Speaker 2: when Lamar Hunt built it, and they've hosted many USA

563
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Speaker 2: Mexico games. Era have been to several of them. They're awesome.

564
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Speaker 2: It was kind of like the unofficial home of US

565
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: soccer and qualification for the World Cup anytime they play

566
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Speaker 2: Mexico because they knew they'd get a home field in Columbus. Sure,

567
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Speaker 2: now there's a bunch of places in northern climate where

568
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Speaker 2: you can get a home field, but Columbus was kind

569
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Speaker 2: of the safe haven and all of those were wins

570
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Speaker 2: to zero. They'd call him Dosa Serros for the United

571
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Speaker 2: States team. So this it was a monster. It's really

572
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: really cool what they did, and I just think it's

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Speaker 2: remarkable what the Haslm family has done with that ownership

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Speaker 2: and what the Edwards along with doctor Pete, who's kind

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Speaker 2: of the one guy down there who's been there. It's

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Speaker 2: just really cool. It was fun. I mean, it was

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Speaker 2: thrilling stuff. I mean, when the goal goes in forty

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Speaker 2: fifth minute, you go, Okay, you've done it. You're onto

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Speaker 2: the final. So it'd be very cool if they could

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Speaker 2: get it done. So absolutely all right, get your questions

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Speaker 2: in for the mail bag. We will get into that.

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Speaker 2: At two thirty Deer Orlando led better. He had the

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Speaker 2: pressing questions about Penix right to the front office.

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Speaker 4: There we might actually go a parade of stars in

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Speaker 4: the two o'clock hour. Oh little tease. I believe Andrew

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Speaker 4: Marshan will join us at two o'clock. Oh fun, do

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Speaker 4: you Orlando at two point fifteen in a mail bag

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Speaker 4: with Griff and you know at two thirty five.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. We're off and running.

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Speaker 2: he did it. He did it, ABG did it. Here's

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Speaker 2: the tweet from Brown's therapy. Who do you think you are?

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Speaker 2: You are Griff Farewell, my sweet prints. Come on, that's

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Speaker 2: perfect Griff.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: He's got to be thrilled. This is his guy. You've

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Speaker 2: officially made it, man, this is his guy. That's that's

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Speaker 2: Pete Webber, right, and that Pete's big move. I'm him.

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Speaker 2: You explained that on the air. It's the perfect gift

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Speaker 2: for the perfect human. You know, your his mouthpiece? Is he?

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Speaker 2: Is he happy? Are you happy with this? Yes? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate its pretty great. Huh, good job out

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Speaker 2: of bet On that. I knew you'd come through big

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Speaker 2: with the perfect gift, too. Very good job, very good,

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Speaker 2: good job. All right, So, Andrew Marsha, I'm gonna join

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Speaker 2: us a two o'clock We just got that in the

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Speaker 2: last couple of minutes. Lots going on in the media

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Speaker 2: rights world, especially in the Association in terms of what

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Speaker 2: could be happening.

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Speaker 4: Again, I have sleepless nights going on. If TNT doesn't

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Speaker 4: get the doesn't get these rights, which I don't think they're.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't look good, does not look good. I do think

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Speaker 2: that probably the simple fixes all of the inside the

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Speaker 2: NBA guys would just go to the new entity. The

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Speaker 2: only one I don't know about his Erny. And he's

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Speaker 2: kind of the straw that serves a drink like people.

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Speaker 2: For all the Chuck attention and it Chuck's amazing. I

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Speaker 2: love Chuck, but without you have Ernie's that he keeps

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Speaker 2: it moving.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he knows how to poke the bear to

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Speaker 4: get the best results.

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Speaker 2: He does. Yeah, he's a perfect point guard, probably the

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Speaker 2: best host of those type of things that I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: And so he'll join at two o'clock de Orlando, two fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll get the mail bag loaded up at two thirty,

633
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Speaker 2: so final hour will be absolutely loaded up. Today as

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Speaker 2: the deadlines, we go around the league for teams to

635
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: pick up the fifth year option for players who has

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Speaker 2: not do you have that list.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we went through some of these guys,

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Speaker 4: Zach Wilson, Trey Lance.

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Speaker 2: Not being picked up.

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Speaker 4: Let's see as I scrolled on Justin Fields, so three qbs,

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Speaker 4: Mac Jones, four qbs, Zavian Collins, the linebacker out of

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Speaker 4: Arizona at sixteen. Alex Leatherwood, who was cut before his

643
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: contract was even up.

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Speaker 2: He was here last.

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Speaker 4: Yees Yeah, yeah, mean Davis linebacker Washington. That's an interesting one.

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00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: Started thirty six games for the Commanders the past three years,

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Speaker 4: had his most productive season this past year. Kadarius Tony,

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Speaker 4: wide receiver, Kansas City, Quitty Pay defensive end. Indy kind

649
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: of surprised that one, Yeah, went yeah. Caleb Farley corner Tennessee.

650
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: Najie Harris the Steelers not picking up the fifth year

651
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: on him.

652
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: Eric surprised by that. I am too, I don't. I mean,

653
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: he has not been the most productive, but he also

654
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: has not played with anybody worth a damnit quarterback. Correct. Yeah,

655
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: the people just started boxes constantly for him and he

656
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: takes a beating. Yeah.

657
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: Outside of that that, that's Eric Stokes, Peyton Turner, two

658
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: guys that you know. Yeah, whatever, So, I mean there's

659
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: a couple of surprises in there, but you know, for

660
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 4: the most part it's the qbs not getting picked up.

661
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: Four of them makes sense. I just to see this

662
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: in the last couple of hours of National Park Services

663
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: demolition of DC's RFK Stadium can proceed after it evaluated

664
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: the potential effects on the natural, cultural, human environment. Next

665
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: to National Park Service will issue a permit for DC

666
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: for the demolition. So it has sat. Look, the DC

667
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: United used to play in there for a while. They

668
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: play in there, but it's been basically unused, vacant for

669
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 2: years now. I'm relatively familiar with d C. It's obviously

670
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: inside the outer belt or inside the Beltway. I wonder

671
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: if the new ownership would try to go back in there.

672
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: I would think not, you don't want to deal with

673
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: the Park Service and all that.

674
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: I don't know why we want to go back in there.

675
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want anything to do with that area. Number one,

676
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: it's not near anything.

677
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: No, it's other side.

678
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: How my stadium closer to downtown Washington, d C. Yeah,

679
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what.

680
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: That looks like. Well, this is RFK, which is inside.

681
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: This is old RFK. This is when you played when

682
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: we were kids. Like the Hogs and all of that.

683
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: That's legendary site that's inside the Beltway right now is

684
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: FedEx is a disaster and they want to get out

685
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: of that. They got a lot to do there. They

686
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: got to rebrand that thing again, They got to write that,

687
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: and then they got to get the stadium situated.

688
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 4: They got a lot of guess, maybe you do want

689
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 4: to mess with the park service potentially.

690
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I don't know. Maybe it would be cool

691
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: to have it back in there. That was that place

692
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: was cool when they had that setup. Speaking of owners

693
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: and their money, Dolphins owner Steven Ross turns down reportedly

694
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: ten billion for the control of the team, the stadium

695
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: in the F one race. That Dolphins are valued at

696
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 2: five point seven billion. The Dolphins are worth what somebody's

697
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 2: willing to pay for them. This tells me two things.

698
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: Number One, and Ross turned this down because he wants

699
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: to keep it in the family and the legacy. Correct.

700
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: He's eighty three, So that's that's interesting to me. It

701
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: tells me one he knows it's only going to continue

702
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: to go up and up and up. Two. I think

703
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: it's a reflection because I don't think anybody looks at

704
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins and thinks like glamorous franchise or a

705
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: plus franchise in the NFL. Sure, but here's what you

706
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: don't take into consideration, or we don't too oftentimes here

707
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: how popular Miami is for foreigners. That city, that the

708
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: F one race there is a hit. You go down

709
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: there and you not just South Beach, but you go

710
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: keep a skaying, you go Ball Harbor, any of those places,

711
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: all the where along those beaches. The amount of foreign

712
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: interests that are there, the amount of vacationing that's done

713
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: there from Europe, far in the Middle East, far greater

714
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: than Los Angeles, sure, or anywhere else. Like, it's Miami's

715
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: the spot. So when I see that ten billion valuation,

716
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: I think, well, the Dolphins aren't worth ten billion, No,

717
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: probably not. But you get a franchise, a stadium, and

718
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: an F one race that would be and I get

719
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: it absolutely. Yeah.

720
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: No income tax, no state tax. Yeah, I mean that's

721
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: that's an enormous reason. But yeah, and they to be fair.

722
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: I mean, the stadium's just one big club now, so.

723
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: I haven't been there since they've renovated it. They put

724
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: like those overhangs on it, so you get the shade,

725
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: which is nice. Yeah.

726
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 4: Fine, probably the worst media set up in the National

727
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 4: Football League.

728
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: No, well, they built it as a It is a

729
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: dual purpose base. It's the old Joe Robbie sitting.

730
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: So you're sitting in a baseball booth to call a

731
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 4: game that the windows don't open.

732
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: No, that's right, they don't. Is the press box still?

733
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: Like we're behind old home plate? Was so we never

734
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: redid that? Nope? Yeah that sucks. Yeah, it's sightlines are awful.

735
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: The windows are small, and they have all sorts of

736
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: petitions like it's bad. It sucks.

737
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, we but I mean the fan experience is amazing now,

738
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, yeah, I mean they have DJs. They

739
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: have I mean literally, we have to walk our gear

740
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: through a club after the game. I'm like, great, I'm

741
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: in a I'm in a brown shirt, Like, what could

742
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: go wrong here? These people have been drinking for six hours.

743
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: There.

744
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 4: This is a club. I mean, there is a DJ,

745
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: there is a dance floor. Things are getting hot and

746
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: yeah and here comes the Browns radio crew with trunks

747
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: trying to get downstairs.

748
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: What a great idea?

749
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: How can I Yeah, logistically it's kind of a nightmare.

750
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the location of it sucks too, just for

751
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: fans down there. Yeah, it's tough to get to Miami Gardens.

752
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: Like it's not ideal. Anytime people are critical of the

753
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: University of Miami attendance, I try to explain to them

754
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: how far that stadium is from the University of Miami campus. Yeah,

755
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: like it's a it's a to do. Okay, you're not.

756
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: It's not like down at Ohio State where you're stumbling

757
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: into the shoe on a on a Saturday morning, Like

758
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: you got to making it. You got to get in

759
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: a car and you've got to get up there. I

760
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: think it's it's got to be on game day at

761
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: least thirty five minutes up there. It's got to be.

762
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: And that's if there's no traffic, and then you gotta park,

763
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: have a good time, then find a way back. Yeah.

764
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: So no, it's it is a mess that side of it.

765
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: Steelers running back Jaalen Warren saying special teams coach Danny

766
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Smith has discussed justin fields returning kicks. This was on

767
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: We're Not There Yet.

768
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: Well, I think Cam Hayward's podcast, and there was like

769
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: a there was a studio audience and he literally was like, yeah, yeah.

770
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: The special teams coordinators talked about Justin Fields returning kicks,

771
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: like I.

772
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: Are we there yet already?

773
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: Let's see if if Russ can cook, and if not,

774
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 4: let's give Fields the ball and.

775
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna have a They're gonna have a tough That's

776
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: gonna be interesting seeing how they handle that because they

777
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: don't have a fifth year option. They didn't pick up

778
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: Russ's contract and they didn't pick up the fifth year

779
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: option on Justin correct, So they're gonna want to kick

780
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 2: the tires to see which one if he Maybe neither

781
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: of them, but if one of them can be either

782
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: a short term band aid or a long term solution

783
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: for them, they're both gonna have to play correct kind

784
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: of way that's gonna go. Yeah this. According to Jacksonville

785
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: dot Com, the Jaguars will play back to back games

786
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: in London for the second straight season. One is a

787
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: home team at Wembley, the other as an away team

788
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: at Tottenham Hopspur. Reportedly against the Bears, Tottenham New City

789
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: was amazing, so that then Wembley's great too. Do you

790
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: think shod Con is still like just keeping that.

791
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that they didn't play back to back

792
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 4: every year that they went over there.

793
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: So they did that. They stayed there, Yeah, and played too.

794
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: I mean in the old days they would go over

795
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: there a couple of times, correct, back and forth for

796
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: the longest time. One point, I thought he was in

797
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 2: an agreement to buy Wembley. Shod con was. I'm pretty

798
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: sure he was. I think so, and it fell apart,

799
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: But he was in a he was, he had an

800
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: agreement to buy Wembley, and I just assumed that they

801
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: were going to move to London at that time. Yeah, yeah,

802
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: And I just still wondered to this day. I just wondered,

803
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: as he is that kind of in the back of

804
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: his head, like if he doesn't get what he wants

805
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: done with a stadium down there, where are they on

806
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: that stage? Are they trying to build a new un er?

807
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: They were quiet, I don't know. I mean, there were renderings,

808
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 4: there was a lot of discussion. You remember the whole

809
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: Herb project.

810
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: Well, Herb thought he was building facilities at Big State

811
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: U first look at the Jaguars Stadium of the Future.

812
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: So this is on their team website. Let's see when

813
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 2: this But there's been no mention of anything recently. Okay.

814
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at this thing. It looks like

815
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: a lot of these ones that are out I'm wondering.

816
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: This is actually on their website, on the Jaguars website.

817
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: It's an open air but it looks like it's oh yeah,

818
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: really futuristic. It's right near downtown.

819
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: It's probably right down on the water because that's what

820
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: they bulldozed everything. They got rid of everything.

821
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: It's pretty close to the water, not right on it,

822
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: but pretty close. Yeah. So it's in a similar area

823
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: as the news the one current one is just kind

824
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: of east of downtown. Okay, but I don't I don't

825
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: know who's who's paying for it. Yeah, correct, And if

826
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: he doesn't get it's one thing to put up a schematic,

827
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: it's another thing to say, green light, let's go print it.

828
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: I used to have a pretty good handle on that.

829
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: It's actually right where that. It's the same pretty much

830
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: same spot. Yeah, because they were going to play.

831
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 4: In for the Gators, we talked aboute and then they

832
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 4: ended up aren't they going to play in Orlando or something?

833
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: So they're doing it. So that's but we haven't heard

834
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: anything more. It's been quiet.

835
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been very very Quiet Browns Genner manager Ry

836
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: Or Bears No manager Ryan Poles on taking punter Tory

837
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 4: Taylor fourth round quote.

838
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: I didn't expect him to get much further, he tells

839
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: The MacCabe Show. He continues, thought process there is to

840
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: make anyone who we're playing really uncomfortable. I know, running

841
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: onto field and having the ball spot inside the ten

842
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: yard line is very uncomfortable feeling. And I love taking

843
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: advantage of the field position, and really that should help

844
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: us with points as well. I'm going to tell you

845
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: something I don't even This doesn't bother me at all,

846
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: them taking a punter. This kid's a dude. So he's

847
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: the Iowa kid. Yeah, yeah, so this this dude is accurate.

848
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: He was used as a weapon at Iowa because Kurt

849
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: Farren's is allergic to offensive football. So this is his

850
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: whole thing is play defensive punt and it's field position

851
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: and this kid aced it. And the Bears don't have

852
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: that many needs. So if I were to say, kick

853
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: the tires on a fourth round, fill in the blank

854
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: position that's a twenty five to thirty percent hit rate,

855
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: or get a sure thing as a punter, I'll take

856
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: the sure thing. I don't have a problem with it

857
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: at all. No, what I mean, they don't have any holes.

858
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the event, in the event that you have

859
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: to punt, if you got a guy that can crush it,

860
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: great rookie deal four years.

861
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no problem with it. So I have

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Speaker 2: no problem with that deal at all. All right, Could

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00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs be playing in their season opener

864
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 2: and we'll kind of set the table for our conversation

865
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Speaker 2: with Andrew marsh and the NBA rights which will be

866
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: are being dealt with right now? What the future could

867
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Speaker 2: hold there? That's coming up next to list to Cleveland

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Speaker 2: All right, Andrew Marshaw coming up in about ten minutes

874
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Speaker 2: from now. I saw this, all right, So this is

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports Give They ranked the top eight opponents for

876
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to face in their season opener on opening night.

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Speaker 4: So I wasn't the smart one here, and Uno had

878
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: to set me straight. Because I'm like, how are the

879
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: Browns not on this? What's going on? Well, the Browns

880
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 4: don't play in Kansas City. City is going to open

881
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: at home?

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00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So give me the give me the give

883
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: me the opponents, and I'll tell you what. All right?

884
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: So number eight or do you want me to just

885
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: to get you? Just give me the list and then

886
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: I'll I'm curious what the obviously, Chargers, Broncos and Raiders.

887
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

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00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 4: From an AFC North standpoint, the Ravens and Bengals, the

889
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 4: Texans uh, and then Tampa Bay and New Orleans. Those

890
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 4: are their eight home games in the.

891
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Twe Tampa Bay and New Orleans would be at the

892
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: very bottom with the Raiders. For me, I would put

893
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: the Broncos in the bottom. That's fine. I would put

894
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: that's fine. All four of those would be at the bottom.

895
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: Chargers would be next. So I think the top three

896
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 2: choices would be and I would even say, in this order, Ravens, Texans, Bengals. Interesting,

897
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 2: how close were we? What did they go with number one?

898
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: The Ravens nailed it. Number two, the Bengals, okay, so

899
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: they go Texans three. Yep. Here's my thinking on Texans

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00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: over Bengals. I know, or at least have a pretty

901
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: good idea that CJ. Stroud is going to be good

902
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: to go if you don't have Burrow. There's no reason

903
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: to suggest he won't be ready. But look at he's

904
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: played four NFL seasons. He's missed two of them with

905
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: significant injuries. Correct, So there's nothing, nothing that leads me

906
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: to believe that CJ. Stroud won't be there for the

907
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: open They're kind of the darling of the off season.

908
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: I know they're not box office as big as the

909
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: Bengals are, but I have certainty in roster. I don't

910
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: have a certainty in the Bengals roster.

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00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 4: So last year the Chiefs opened at home against the

912
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions, and everybody said maybe too much, too soon,

913
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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you're the You're and they

914
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 4: lived up to the hype. I would have to think,

915
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 4: if you're doing that kind of math, that Houston makes

916
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Speaker 4: the most sense.

917
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they want Ravens first.

918
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: But I feel like that could be a protected CBS game,

919
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 4: that could be a dance romo.

920
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: We're going to protect that. Yeah, So that would leave Yeah, Bengals, Texans,

921
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna win either way. You have mahomes your box office.

922
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 4: I mean even the Chargers with Harball, that's a charger,

923
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Speaker 4: a steady fourth and then the other four would be

924
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: put that on at one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: On real just in the future. Yeah, all right, coming

926
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: up in about five minutes, we're gonna have Andrew marshand on.

927
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Speaker 2: One of the things that he is all over is

928
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: this NBA television rights package that's being fought over in

929
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: the idea that potentially Turner may not be a part

930
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: of it. It has been a part of it our

931
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: entire lives. Yes, but it's it could be real. We'll

932
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: get into that. Also get his view on what the

933
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: NFL could be thinking with an eighteen game regular season

934
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: and a protracted playoff in terms of the television deal

935
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Speaker 2: that could be done there. May also pick his brain

936
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Speaker 2: on the college football side of things. Listen to Cleveland

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945
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Speaker 2: on the hotline by a man who is he's kind

946
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Speaker 2: of a one man beat when it comes to, quite honestly,

947
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 2: media to negotiations of the things that are happening there.

948
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: He's Andrew Marsham. He's with the athletic and he is

949
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: all over the negotiations that are happening on the NBA

950
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 2: side of things. He's been on before with us. It's

951
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: always a great privilege when he is on. Andrew, thank

952
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: you so much for the time. I guess a simple

953
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: question was probably a convoluted answer. Where are we now

954
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: with the NBA's television contract negotiations They're ongoing.

955
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: ESPN, which has the NBA Finals, has a framework agreement

956
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: to keep the NBA Finals, keep the package a little left.

957
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: Games go from like one hundred games to around eighty

958
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: and then the big news so far, Amazon Prime Video

959
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: is going to get a package and likely some conference

960
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 3: finals over the ten years or so that these agreements

961
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: go for. And now it's down to what happens between

962
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: the incumbent T and T Sports, which is facing off

963
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: with NBC Comcast, which also has Peacock. That's where it stands.

964
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: So the big headliner here, obviously is the Turner part

965
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: of it. I want to get to the streaming stuff

966
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: because the NFL dipped their toe in that a little bit,

967
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: and we know more is coming. But boy, when I

968
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: think the NBA, it's synonymous with Turner in my lifetime

969
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: for perspective, how long have they been partners and how

970
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: close is this to no longer being the case? And

971
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: then furthermore, would it be a situation where I mean

972
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: Inside the NBA is one of the most beloved sports

973
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: entertainment shows of all time. What happens there?

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00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: So a couple of things. It's been four decades that

975
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 3: Turner Sports has had. It started on TVs and then

976
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: moved to TNT. Now they're you know, the company that

977
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 3: owns them as Warner Brothers Discovery. A combination between Warner

978
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: Brothers and Discovery that happened a little while ago. And

979
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 3: so what happens to inside the NBA. Well, they're all

980
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: gonna become free agent and so is there a chance

981
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: the show could remain together. Yeah, I think that's possible.

982
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 3: More likely is you know, they're signed by other entities.

983
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: It'd be it ESPN, Amazon or NBC in the scenario,

984
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: I think that's more likely than them going all together.

985
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's been an iconic show. I would say,

986
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: probably the best studio show in sports media history. And

987
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: so you know, things do end.

988
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 5: But I do think the.

989
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: Biggest reason it's the best show is Barkley, And I

990
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: think when you look at it at the end of

991
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: the day, like you know, where he goes is where

992
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 3: really where those sweet steaks goes, because you know, he

993
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: makes everybody better and that doesn't take anything away from

994
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: all the other parts of that show because Ernie is

995
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 3: a great host, Ernie Johnson Shack, He's grown in that role.

996
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 3: At first he wasn't that great, but especially his friendship

997
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: with Barkley just comes out so well. And then Kenny

998
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 3: Smith serves his purpose. He's gotta like the third guy,

999
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: third analyst who has his place in terms of just

1000
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: it fits very well together. So, you know, does that

1001
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: show survive if Turner loses it? I would say probably not.

1002
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: At least, you know, maybe a couple of those guys

1003
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: stay together, but I don't think the All Show necessarily survives.

1004
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: So andrew one. In the dealings I do with Ohio

1005
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: State and the Big Ten, one thing I noticed was

1006
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: that when those rights came up, you would see Buckeye

1007
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: games on Peacock. And the reason for that is people

1008
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: around here really like watching Ohio State play football, and

1009
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: so they subscribe for Peacock. So when I'm looking at

1010
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: this and you're talking about it's you brought up Warner Discovery,

1011
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: for example, what is happening? And you can correct me

1012
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: where I'm wrong here. These streamers realize that live sports

1013
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: are about as good a content as you can get

1014
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: to drive up subscribers. So big picture, what does Warner

1015
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: Discovery look like If they don't have the NBA long term?

1016
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: Does that put in jeopardy? They had an agreement at

1017
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: one point with ESPN correct where they were going to

1018
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: put together something where they were all kind of working together.

1019
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: And then furthermore, for the health of Peacock going forward,

1020
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: they would have Big Ten football and basketball and the NBA.

1021
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: For a streamer that has struggled, that would have to

1022
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: be an incredible boon.

1023
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 3: The key to all these streamers is to have one

1024
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 3: thing that you want to watch per month. Now that

1025
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 3: might be you might be listening. And I'm not just

1026
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: saying for one thing, but if.

1027
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 5: They can satisfy you that you really have.

1028
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: To have something, you know, once a month, then you

1029
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: don't think about canceling because you know it's easy to

1030
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 3: cancel and add these things back and forth, as opposed

1031
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: to back in the day when we just had cable.

1032
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: You know, nobody thought about if you didn't watch the

1033
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 3: Guardian game. Back in the day, you didn't say, oh

1034
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: well maybe I should get rid of can. But now

1035
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: you know, if you if you know you had a

1036
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: direct to consumer option where you just bought Guardians games,

1037
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: you know you don't watch them for a month, do

1038
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: you say, well, wait, what am I thankings for this?

1039
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 3: And then that's how they lose you as a So

1040
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: for these for these streamers, it is I mean, the

1041
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: one thing that they don't like is you're leasing the

1042
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: content as opposed to buying it. That's why these deals

1043
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: I believe are so long now because you know, ten

1044
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: years is a long and that's what it's going to

1045
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 3: be ten years or probably longer. So for the streamers

1046
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: and for everyone, it allows them to have certainty for

1047
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: a long time with it. And so yeah, they want

1048
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 3: to get the Ohio State fan, NBA fans just to

1049
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: pay for Peacock all year, and it's a it's a

1050
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: good way to do it, and they get people in

1051
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 3: because it's hard to create hit shows. There's not that

1052
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 3: many Stranger things but Ted Lasso, there's just not that many.

1053
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: And then once you watch them, you know, do you

1054
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: need Apple TV Plus if you watch ted Lasso and

1055
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: like The Morning Show and you know you have Netflix

1056
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: and these other things, like you have many streamers you

1057
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: need and most people kind of you know, are making

1058
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: choices now at this point with so many uh so

1059
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: many places having it. That's what it's gonna be, consolidation

1060
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: over time.

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00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: Andrew, it'd be an amazing thing if there was just

1062
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: one thing that had all of the channels you want

1063
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: and you just paid one fee for all of it.

1064
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: I say that tongue in cheek. Aren't we just gonna read?

1065
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah cable? Yeah, you know what I mean? Like that

1066
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: where we're heading.

1067
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 3: I you know, when they announced the ESPN, uh Box

1068
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: and Warner Brothers Discovery deal that you just reference that's

1069
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: going to start in the fall. Where you'll be able

1070
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: to have all three of those entities. You know, I said, like,

1071
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: one day, these brilliant TV executives are gonna come together

1072
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: and they're gonna create cable.

1073
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that The problem.

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Speaker 3: Is yeah, right, that's and that's the problem is though

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00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of a good thing and a bad thing. So,

1076
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: you know, the way people win in media throughout history

1077
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 3: is who has the best distribution. You know, we can

1078
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: talk about Brown daily, you know, we talk about.

1079
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 5: What I write, talk about whatever.

1080
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: It is. The way to really the biggest way to

1081
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: win is distribution. So that goes dates back to the

1082
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: printing press, where you know, one person owned you know,

1083
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: the old adage was never get in a fight with

1084
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 3: someone who buys ink by the barrel because they only

1085
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: had the distribution of the newspaper. Nobody else had voice.

1086
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: So what's happened over time is now because of the Internet,

1087
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 3: you can you know, you and I in theory, can

1088
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: distribute content as well as billion dollar companies, Like anybody

1089
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: could hear this show anywhere in the world. And so

1090
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 3: obviously these big companies have an advantage during reach and

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00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: money and there's advantage stuff, but it's not as much

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00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: as it once was, and so that has allowed more

1093
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: players to get into the game, which in theory should

1094
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: be good. But as we've seen at the Internet, a

1095
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: lot of things that in theory about the Internet are

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00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 3: supposed to be good, we see the downside, you know,

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00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: in terms of like truth and disinformation and all that

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00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: kind of stuff that was supposed to be you know,

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00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 3: to be you know, information, everyone will get it instead. Uh,

1100
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: you know, bad actors kind of can can win the

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00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: day as well, and so you know.

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Speaker 7: In terms of distribution, So I yes, there's gonna be

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00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 7: consolidation just because there's not enough people to pay for

1104
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 7: all this. But I don't think it's gonna be as simple,

1105
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 7: you know, most likely not as simple as what we

1106
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 7: had with cable, which you know, nobody liked their cable

1107
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 7: company back in the day, so it wasn't it wasn't

1108
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 7: all you know, flowers and ice.

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00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 5: Cream with just cable companies.

1110
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 3: But you know, this system does not work for the

1111
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 3: for the for a sports fan, it's confusing, it's difficult,

1112
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: and I do think when you do these deals, if

1113
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 3: you're the NBA or you know, I think football obviausly

1114
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: has the advantage because it's the most popular. You have

1115
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 3: to think about who's going to see and how they're

1116
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: going to see it, and are you making it accessible

1117
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 3: uh for your fans, because you got to keep regrowing fans.

1118
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 3: I think that's a big issue going forward because younger

1119
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: people are watching the stuff, you know, off of TikTok

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00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 3: and Twitter, Instagram. I am as opposed to watching full games.

1121
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: Talking to Andrew marsh and he's the best in the

1122
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 2: business of the athletic on all of the media business

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00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: that's happening the NBA top of mind currently, Now, what

1124
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: do you think the numbers will come in on this are? Yeah,

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00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: I heard Cuban a couple it's been recently within the

1126
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: last couple of years talking about, Look, there's there's going

1127
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: to come a point where like, do we can we

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00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: always continue to make more and more and more? How

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00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: much more and more and more will be in this

1130
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: deal for the NBA? And then what does that say

1131
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: about what in the future could happen for the NFL?

1132
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: Or is the NFL just in in a league entirely

1133
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: of its own?

1134
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: Well, I think it probably doubles what they what they

1135
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: get the NFL is uh, you know, it has an

1136
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: opt out in twenty nine for its contract that it

1137
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: went for eleven years. So, you know, the NFL, because

1138
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: here's the if you want to do to start the

1139
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: NBA today, I don't think you'd have eighty two games.

1140
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: I think you probably have like fifty something, maybe sixty.

1141
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: And because the problem, you know, the NFL has scarcity,

1142
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: which makes every game important, makes the system the best.

1143
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: So a week one game Brown Steelers means a lot

1144
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: because that could determine the playoffs. You know, if you

1145
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: make the playoffs, if you win to the vision, et cetera.

1146
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 3: And that happens for seventeen games during the regular season,

1147
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: so every game is important. NBA, you know, they started

1148
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: the nd season tournament, which personally I think is a

1149
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 3: good idea. However, it does even exasperate the point that

1150
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: the rest of the regular season games are not that important,

1151
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: and so that's an issue they don't have seriously. And

1152
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 3: then even the playoffs, as good as they've been so far,

1153
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: at least around.

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Speaker 5: Here because of the Knicks and you know, some of these.

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00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: Other good games that we've seen, but especially the Knicks,

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00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 3: we it's still you know, these playoffs aren't be done

1157
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 3: really six weeks, it goes on forever, right, the games

1158
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: are too spread out. In my opinion, it turns on

1159
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: momentum of these games. It's just it's fine. I mean

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00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: it's not bad, but again it's just not like that.

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00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 3: It's not if you start from scrappy the system that

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00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 3: you you had. It just the owners are not going

1163
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: to want to go backwards in terms of attendance, and

1164
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, terms of short term, I think long term

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Speaker 3: they'd be better.

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Speaker 2: I would agree with you on that. You mentioned the

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Speaker 2: word scarcity. I'll get you out of here on this one.

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Speaker 2: College football has scarcity. We've seen from a rating standpoint

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Speaker 2: that it's second to the NFL only to the NFL

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Speaker 2: in terms of ratings. They did not go to market

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Speaker 2: with their College Football Playoff yet. My sense is talking

1172
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: to people around the sport that they kind of want

1173
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: to see how the next two years are what what

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00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: could college football become? And how big of a player

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Speaker 2: could college football become in this world in the next decade.

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Speaker 3: Well, college Football Playoff is going to be with ESPN

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00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: for you know, through the twenty thirties. You know, the

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Speaker 3: question is what college football looks like. We did a

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00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: big story about you know, one plan which includes the

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Speaker 3: number two at the NFL, Brian roll App you know,

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Speaker 3: in terms of how you could change college football. But

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see more change. I mean, we've

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Speaker 3: seen so much friction with the realignment of teams and

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01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: full of it doesn't really make any sense when you

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01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: look at the uh, you know, the geography, uh. And

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Speaker 3: so I think you're gonna see more of that, and

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 3: players are gonna be paid, you know, in some form

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Speaker 3: more directly than just nil. And so I think as

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Speaker 3: we go forward, get to the state of transition still

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Speaker 3: for for college football. You know, we're gonna get the

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Speaker 3: expanded playoffs this upcoming year. I do think that will

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Speaker 3: be exciting for people, even if the first couple of

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01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: rounds aren't good. It's just it's a bet. It's again

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Speaker 3: talking about systems. It's a better system, Like why are

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Speaker 3: voters determining any aspect of it, like twelve teams? You know,

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Speaker 3: you could have some you know, and you know football,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna really have Cinderella. It's just not very likely.

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Speaker 3: You know, if they do this, if they have this

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Speaker 3: college football for fifty years, you know, could there be

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Speaker 3: a couple of times, you know, one or maybe one

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Speaker 3: or two times you know where a team makes a run. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think so, but you just don't. It's usually there's

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Speaker 3: just the physicality of teams is just too different for

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Speaker 3: for too many upsets, especially when there's going to be

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Speaker 3: a home field advantage. But I do think that it

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Speaker 3: is a better you know, in terms of playing, for

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Speaker 3: getting the student asley aspect of it. In terms of playing,

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Speaker 3: I think where we're going is a better place because

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Speaker 3: it be determined on the field. It's kind of ludicrous that.

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Speaker 5: You know forever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, at one point it was just writers

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Speaker 3: deciding and now even you know, like who's in the playoff?

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Speaker 3: You know, fourteen twelve teams, you're not going to really

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Speaker 3: leave any you know, thirteen. If you're thirteenth, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you got really no excuses. There's thirteenth out of twelve teams.

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Speaker 3: You know that you deserve to be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Andrew, I thoroughly enjoy your work and love having the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to talk to you. Thanks for your time today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks all right, that's Andrew Marshaan the Athletic joining us

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Speaker 2: you I heard your questioning on the Michael Pennox Pick

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01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: of the press conference. My friend, we thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time. Do you believe their answers that

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01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: they gave to the drafting of Pennix and do you

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 2: think have you come around? Do you think that this

1240
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: will work.

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01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. I believe their answers because I had to live

1242
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 5: through uh Marcus Mariota and Desie ritterfre Uh. You know,

1243
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 5: they didn't do a good job of transitioning from Matt Ryan.

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01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 5: They lost to Cleveland and the Deshaun Watson Derby Uh.

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 5: And you know when they got a chance to get

1246
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 5: a quarterback, they took it, and they took it twice

1247
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 5: when they got Cousins and uh doubled down on Pennis

1248
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 5: to stabilize that position for they said five years it

1249
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 5: could beat it, you know.

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Speaker 2: More so when this happens, it's sent shockways throughout the league.

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01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: Did you have any inkling that they could be going

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01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: this way?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I had it in my moth bought three point

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01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 5: oh that they were did. Yeah. I did on ap

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Speaker 5: for the fifth after they went out and visited him.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then I had it on the day before the

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01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 5: draft and our five guys on the radar, and Michael

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Speaker 5: Pennix was one with the four defenders that we had

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Speaker 5: picked Lata Dallas Turner who everybody thought was coming here

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Speaker 5: in verse and then the Brian Murphy and then Pennis

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01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 5: was a fifth guy on the radar. So We kind of,

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Speaker 5: you know, knew they'd been kicking around the quarterback, but

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01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 5: didn't think they, you know, would actually go best player

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01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 5: available in their minds, and we thought they'd gonna need

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Speaker 5: and take Turner and help the defense because the defense

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Speaker 5: is uh, it was in the bottom half of the

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Speaker 5: league and just about everything last year.

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Speaker 2: Who who specifically became enamored Like, I get the process.

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Speaker 2: I get the thinking of we're not going to have

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Speaker 2: a chance to draft a good one because we're really good,

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Speaker 2: their rosters really good, and they're gonna win a lot

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Speaker 2: of games with cousins. So I understand the thinking there.

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Speaker 2: What was it specifically about Pennix and was there someone

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Speaker 2: in the organization who just really believed in him?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? The person that's my Sunday story I was working on,

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01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 5: and uh, that person was Joel Collier. He was the

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Speaker 5: area of scout for Penix. He's a former GM with

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Speaker 5: the assistant GM with the Chiefs from O eight to

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Speaker 5: thirteen with with the Scott Poli and that crew that

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Speaker 5: built the foundation of the Chiefs Super Bowl team and

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01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 5: handed it over to John Dorsey and them and they

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Speaker 5: finished it off. But yeah, he was a guy Joel Collier.

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Speaker 5: He came back and he was raving about him. Then

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Speaker 5: they did the cross checks and the scouts had him

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01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 5: up there high. Uh, then the coaches came in and

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 5: the coaches, you know, didn't want to overrule the scout

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Speaker 5: and uh, that's how the Pennix pick started.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's so that you're gonna have that story Sunday

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01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 2: in the AJAC then yeah, yeah, okayach here.

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Speaker 5: Uh but once they headed me today and uh, yeah,

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01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 5: it'll be in the Sunday a ThEC on Uh, you know,

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01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 5: the finding of Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Look forward to reading that because it's a

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01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: fascinating journey that leads to here. So it feels like

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01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: they were all aligned. But is it fair to say

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Speaker 2: the one place they weren't aligned is with the communication

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Speaker 2: with Kirk Cousins. And if that was not the case,

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Speaker 2: how have they gone about remedying that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I thought to Kurt, everything's been smoothed out. But uh,

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Speaker 5: I think you know, they didn't really want to tell

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01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 5: Kirk because last time they told Kurt stuff he got

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01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 5: they got busted for tampering Kurt. Probably they probably in

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01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 5: need Kurt and the loop on this one. Uh, but

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01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 5: you know it probably wasn't decided until you know, the

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01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 5: board actually dropped the way they thought it was going

1307
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 5: to drop. So you know, they they you know, their

1308
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 5: professionals here, you know, no heart feeling, but you know

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01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 5: they're trying to stabilize the franchise for the next you know,

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01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 5: five to teen years. So uh yeah, Initially him and

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01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 5: his people were shocked. Mike McCarthy reached out to everybody

1312
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 5: and let him know that they weren't kept in the loop.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's thirty five and coming up roster the Achilles.

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Speaker 5: What did he trip?

1315
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,479
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I'm with you on that. So all right,

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01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: give me their dream timeline here, how does this thing

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: play out?

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01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, their dream timeline is Kurt uh starts for two

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 5: years and wins the Super Bowl. Then that third year

1320
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 5: with the guaranteed money, maybe he's maybe he uh you know,

1321
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 5: gives way to Pinis, and then maybe that fourth year

1322
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 5: he sticks around and leaves Pinis, you know, you know,

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01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 5: backs up Pinnicks for that fourth year when he's thirty

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 5: nine or so.

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01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: Here's the one flying the ointment And I'm curious your

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01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: thoughts on this. All of this sounds well and good

1327
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: like in a video game world right where human emotions

1328
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: aren't involved and where fans aren't there. But guess who's

1329
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: going to be at mini camp throwing rain Michael Pennick Junior.

1330
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: Guess who's gonna be a training camp throwing rainbows? Michael

1331
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: Pennock Junior. The first time Cousins struggles what is that

1332
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: stadium like? And how have they considered what that's gonna

1333
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: be like? Cousins a veteran. You know, the thinking is

1334
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: he can handle it, and have you thought about how

1335
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 2: they'll handle all of that? The fans I'm talking about

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01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: of Atlanta, Oh.

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01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 5: We know exactly how they're gonna do it, Just like

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 5: when Michael Bick went the quarterback, the backup quarterback, the

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 5: most popular guy in Atlanta and has been that way

1340
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 5: for twenty years, going back to mess up U Dominick Davis,

1341
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 5: Uh you know Rinter. Yeah, So so you know whoever

1342
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 5: the backup quarterback was gonna be It could have been

1343
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 5: last year, was Tyler Heineken? He was He could have

1344
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 5: ran for mayor last year. So yeah, you know as

1345
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 5: soon as he messed up, the Pennix cause is gonna come. Yeah. No,

1346
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 5: we already know what's gonna happen because they came for

1347
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 5: left of people. You know, when Matt Shobb was the

1348
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 5: second round pick playing behind Vicky have a bad game,

1349
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 5: they want to mess up. You know, Ryan only has too.

1350
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 5: He threw a two pick interception game which he only

1351
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 5: had like ten of those. They were calling for Dominic Davis.

1352
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 5: They was like about Patty Dominic Davis, oh East Carolina quarterback.

1353
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 5: So we know what's gonna happen. But that's been a

1354
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 5: part of the fabric of Falcon football for a while. Now.

1355
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: You're the best, buddy. Thank you for your time and

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01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: your work.

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01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 5: All right, thank you off them much for having me.

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01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 2: That's the great. Dear Orlando Ledbetter joining us there on

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01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 2: the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought to you a twist t

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Speaker 2: hard I see official sponsor of your Cleveland He is fantastic.

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: Is the best? How about it? Had it? I look,

1362
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: there were two people who had it him and locking

1363
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: for ahead it in the Washington Post. Both of those

1364
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: guys had it, so there was the whispers were out

1365
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: there as it were. It is a mail bag Thursday.

1366
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: The final griff Thought fact of the day is coming

1367
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: up in this next segment as well. So we will

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01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: do that. That's coming up next. Cleveland Round Daily at

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01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet now

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily, brought you

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01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: by bally Bet sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns

1374
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: down live in Ohio on a fifty ESPN. Cleveland. Time

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01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: for one final Griff Fact of the Day, Fact of

1376
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: the Day, Fact of the Day, Fact of the day.

1377
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 2: It's the Griff Fact of.

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01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 6: The day, according to Griff's math this morning. Griff and

1379
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 6: I have done approximately two hundred and ten shows as

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 6: members of Cleveland Browns Daily since July of last year.

1381
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: It's been what what does it say about the many

1382
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: that we've done.

1383
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,919
Speaker 6: A number and multiply.

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01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: You guys got eleven wins? Yeah, you did. All you

1385
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: know is winning well like.

1386
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 4: Seven hundred days to get two wins.

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01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 6: I did. I was a fan of this team my

1388
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 6: whole life, so I there wasn't some years that we

1389
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 6: were not winning.

1390
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,480
Speaker 2: Uh man, that's yeah. It's a lot of shows.

1391
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 6: I feel like it was that many, but it went by.

1392
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 4: Fast depends on the time of year. Yes, true, and

1393
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 4: we are approaching that time, you're entering that time.

1394
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I always And I don't know if you

1395
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: guys will you know if you stay in you know,

1396
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: sports media, or if you I know, it's what you

1397
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: want to But one thing that I always tell people about,

1398
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: especially if you're in a job in football or you

1399
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: do something that revolves around football, as I do, and

1400
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: as Gibbie has for many years, the football season is

1401
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: a sprint. You wake up one day in late July

1402
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: or early August, and you go to work and it's

1403
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 2: training camp, and you blink and the season's over, and

1404
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: you go, what the hell just happened?

1405
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 6: That's kind of really what it's like. Yeah, that's kind

1406
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 6: of how it felt for me this year. I started

1407
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 6: in the Greenbrier and then all of a sudden and

1408
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 6: it was the playoffs, and I was like, where did

1409
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 6: all that just go?

1410
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's it's a routine. There's a routine of

1411
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: it and so and honestly, this job, like aside from

1412
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: the football side of it, and I'm sure you felt

1413
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: this way too, There's a routine that I have Monday,

1414
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: is this Tuesday? Is this? Even in the off season.

1415
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 2: Wednesday is this, Thursdays, this Friday is this, and so

1416
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: you just do that day, that version of that day

1417
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: over and over and over again over the course of

1418
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: a year. Yeah, is really how it goes Yep.

1419
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely in season you could start to feel that like, oh, Monday,

1420
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 6: we're going to do this, and Tuesday we're going to

1421
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 6: do this, and here's my job for the day. Yeah,

1422
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 6: it's very very yeah.

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01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly goes quick. So you guys started. Was

1424
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 2: it a week before Camp.

1425
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 6: Griff started a little before I did?

1426
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 2: Who knows?

1427
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 4: The start day was forty eight hours before we left

1428
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 4: to the Green Brier, And I was like, by the way,

1429
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 4: pack a bag, you're going to the Green Brier for

1430
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 4: a week.

1431
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: Wait a second, you started, and then you go, you're

1432
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 2: going to go to America's What do they call that

1433
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: place on Monday? It's America's Resort.

1434
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 6: If it was that Monday, I think I might have

1435
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 6: done like a Thursday and a Friday here.

1436
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 4: Because we left you got well, no, you guys left Saturday.

1437
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 6: On Saturday, So I think I did the Friday. I

1438
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 6: ran the board having never met them, and then left

1439
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 6: on Saturday.

1440
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: Oil. Let's get right here. So it was it was, yeah,

1441
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 2: you went. Your very first thing was welcome aboard. We're

1442
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 2: going to America's resort.

1443
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 4: Yep, good luck, but you're not America's resort.

1444
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 6: Also that you're gonna have no car and you're gonna

1445
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 6: be stuck in a motel outside of nowhere.

1446
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: The glamour, the glamour of it all boys, well, very

1447
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: very good two and shows. That's a nice number, nice

1448
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: round number. Yeah, that's good.

1449
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 4: Is there is there a most memorable moment for either

1450
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 4: one of you over the last eight months, whether it

1451
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 4: was this show or something else.

1452
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 6: I really enjoyed watching grifts reaction to his Grift Day intro.

1453
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 6: That was setting that up forever will be one of

1454
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 6: my favorite things that I've done with Yellowstone, the collaboration

1455
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 6: that we had back and forth calling the mayor of

1456
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 6: his town, Yellowstone called the bowling Alley that he played

1457
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 6: at when he was a kid. Like it was awesome.

1458
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: That was pretty great. Yes, it was very strong, griv.

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 8: I mean, I have so many memories as far as

1460
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 8: the video sided things. I've really enjoyed, shooting Sideline sound,

1461
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 8: getting to.

1462
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,520
Speaker 2: Get cleaned in Cincinnati. What was that? Getting cleaned and Cincinnati.

1463
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 8: Getting cleaned in Cincinnati, thanks stax Hill for that. And

1464
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 8: then as far as CBD, there's just there's so many

1465
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 8: I enjoy listening to the Adventures of Bootsy all the time,

1466
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 8: off season night, you name it. But more importantly, I

1467
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 8: really enjoyed whenever we did Victory Mondays.

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01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah those are fun we got to do. Yeah, those

1469
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: are fun. That's the you know, doing doing that gig.

1470
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: Like you when you know how much an operation means

1471
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: to its fans, and you're Z and I years ago.

1472
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: You know, we always talked about pure joy and there

1473
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 2: are a few things more euphoric then. I remember, like

1474
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: the first time you dropped a renegade after we beat

1475
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and advanced the postseason, I was like, my god,

1476
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: give me shows violence on the Steelers, like those type

1477
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: of things, and like those vignettes and Jim's voice and

1478
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 2: all of it, and then into it and it feels

1479
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: like you are celebrating with the collective, is what it is.

1480
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: So you guys played a huge role in that. You

1481
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: guys are absolusolutely great on that along. I would say,

1482
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: by the way, Griff as Jesus Quintana in the Big

1483
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: Lebowski thanks to Brown's therapy would have to be a highlight. Yes,

1484
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: thank you so much for that. That's really appreciated. That

1485
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: is unbelievable.

1486
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 6: The interaction from social media that I have gotten over

1487
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 6: the last two weeks from our fan base has been insane,

1488
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 6: Like the follows, the mentions, all of it has just

1489
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 6: been crazy. Like it to the people are like, we're

1490
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 6: gonna miss you, and I'm like, that's wild to me

1491
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 6: that I've made it like I left that impact on people.

1492
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 2: Well, it's a credit to the both of you. Correct

1493
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: you guys. Also, it's a credit to both of you

1494
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: the job you did and the enthusiasm you had for

1495
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: the job. Because one thing that we talked about, you know,

1496
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: when we when you bring somebody in, like and Gimby

1497
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: and I talked about it and Zee we'd all talked

1498
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: about like it has to be somebody who gets the

1499
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 2: show or is willing to get the show buy in.

1500
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 2: You gotta to buy in because then you get this

1501
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: everything that you guys that is I mean, my guy

1502
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: that my Twitter mentions are lit up. Brown's backers, North Jersey,

1503
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 2: thank you Uno and Griff for all you brought to

1504
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: the show. Good luck with your future endeavors. There's a

1505
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: billion of these. Yeah, I've been read.

1506
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 6: I read them like hours last night.

1507
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tons of them. But that that is the

1508
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: there is a familiar there's a family component to this

1509
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 2: fan base that is very real, and you're in it now.

1510
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: So that was that was very very cool. Yeah. Absolutely.

1511
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 4: By the way, two hundred and ten episodes in I'm

1512
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 4: gonna out this bombshell on you, who in this studio?

1513
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 4: It was a model, a clothing model, and the pictures

1514
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 4: are still available online. First said clothing model.

1515
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 2: I'm thinking you were a clothes Well, you were a

1516
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: model for You were a model for It's not the gap.

1517
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: Were you a model for old name?

1518
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 6: No, I don't think you're ever going to get it.

1519
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,919
Speaker 2: No, it's obscure. How obscure.

1520
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 6: My previous employment was at Rally House.

1521
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: Oh, he was a model.

1522
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 6: And so sure, each branch has their own individual Instagram,

1523
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 6: and so I was part of running the instagram for

1524
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 6: the Beechwood branch and posted a ton of pictures of

1525
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 6: me and Brown's and guardians.

1526
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 4: And it doesn't even look like him. Number one, there's

1527
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 4: no facial hair.

1528
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 6: I looked a little different back then.

1529
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I love it. Slinging the rally house.

1530
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 2: Uh huh, that's perfect. By the way, I I like

1531
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 2: a rally house. I like sometimes to be able to

1532
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 2: just go to a store and buy something.

1533
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I like it. It's a it's a great

1534
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 6: store everything.

1535
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very strong. I like a rally house.

1536
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: No problem with those guys. Brown's Therapy just dropped a

1537
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 2: step brothers with it. Two of them. Welcome boys as.

1538
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 4: Our two interns right off in the sunset. I want

1539
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 4: to wish them all the best best wishes on your

1540
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 4: next next adventure. You will be missed boys. Hashtag two

1541
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 4: hundred and ten shows. Oh that's very good.

1542
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,479
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1543
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1544
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1547
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 4: Enough from the clown is crushing Zegura today read it.

1548
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 4: Go ahead, there's a couple.

1549
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

1550
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 4: This is unbelievable work. In regards to the Jesus BT

1551
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 4: for the wind and the franchise, nowhere to be found,

1552
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 4: sad lack of commitment to and Griff.

1553
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 6: Turning on the franchise very nice goodbye yesterday.

1554
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 4: After several days of defending Big B Nathan Ziger against

1555
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 4: various allegations. Now he's m i A leaving Uncle Bo

1556
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 4: and Gibbe to hold down the fort.

1557
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: Sad.

1558
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 4: My ask Browns daily question, should the quote franchise get

1559
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 4: a down arrow for abandoning and Griff on the last day,

1560
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 4: I'll leave that too, and Griff down arrow, which you

1561
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 4: couldn't hear that. He said, I'm getting out of.

1562
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 2: My seat right now.

1563
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 6: He did give us a very nice goodbye yesterday and

1564
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 6: and was was very sad that he wasn't going to

1565
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 6: be here today and we do miss him.

1566
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: And he just chilled golf over you is what it amounts.

1567
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 2: That's all it is, which is fine. He's got the time. Yeah,

1568
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: he does down arrow from Griff for for papas.

1569
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 6: He's going to walk in not even going to be here.

1570
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be funny next week when he walks back.

1571
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 2: That's good.

1572
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 4: Tray Carrey tweets at the show, what is UNO's favorite

1573
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 4: vacation spot Aruba?

1574
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 6: Where I went with my family This summer or last summer.

1575
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 2: There you go, Griff. You got a favorite.

1576
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 6: Vacation anywhere where the mountains are for Griff because he's

1577
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 6: never been to the ocean.

1578
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 2: So oh that's right, Yeah, the entire Rocky Mountain front.

1579
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 4: Preston puts something to you, my boy Blue. Both of

1580
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 4: you guys will be dearly missed. A golden pony boys.

1581
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 4: Uh Bo from Brown's Backers, North Jersey. Have you shown

1582
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 4: NBC more episodes of Friday Night Lights? If so, what's

1583
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:46,839
Speaker 4: his reaction?

1584
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 5: Then?

1585
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 2: So he watched I put him on to and let's

1586
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: just be clear, So this is what this is. I

1587
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 2: don't want him being fed YouTube nonsense. Correct, So I

1588
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: am essentially being a YouTube aggregator, and I am pushing

1589
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 2: him to things that I think at least our quality

1590
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: entertainment versus YouTube nonsense. So to that end, he was looking.

1591
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 2: He goes, this is good, but I need something. This

1592
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 2: isn't that funny or anything. I'm like, okay, what about

1593
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: arrested development? So I put him on an arrested development.

1594
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,799
Speaker 2: He blew through that like three seasons in a weekend.

1595
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 2: He was crushed that a little more than that maybe

1596
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 2: in a week And so last night. He was looking

1597
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: for something because he said, like, because when Netflix takes

1598
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: over Arrested Development in the fourth and fifth seasons are

1599
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: not nearly as good. Correct, they just aren't before that.

1600
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. But so I put him I was looking

1601
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 2: for something. And I used to do news when I

1602
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: was at CBS in Columbus at ten o'clock. The CW

1603
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 2: paid us to do their news. And there was a

1604
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 2: show that aired right before we did, or maybe it

1605
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: was WB I can't remember one of those networks and space.

1606
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: We just see the eleven o'clock news cast twice, it's

1607
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 2: what it amounted too. And there was a show called

1608
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: One Tree Hill that was on, so it was about

1609
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: high school kids and it was around basketball, so that's

1610
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 2: his favorite sport. So we watched the first episode of

1611
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: that last night. I had only seen the show like

1612
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 2: out of the corner of my eye, like waiting for

1613
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 2: it to end so I could go do the news,

1614
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: and so I watched it with him. It's fine. It's

1615
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 2: very appropriate for those that are not familiar, probably like

1616
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 2: a Dawson's Creek type of vibe to it had that

1617
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 2: type of vibe to it, but it's around basketball. So

1618
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 2: the one takeaway from that was the kid who's like

1619
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: the big bad can shoot it legit like he must

1620
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 2: have played somewhere like he can. He's got a decent

1621
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 2: stroke to him. So we did watch that. We did

1622
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: watch another episode of Friday Night Lights. Friday Light's just

1623
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: a little heavier. It's not as much you know this

1624
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 2: this other show and it's it tackles a lot of

1625
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 2: heavy issues like this show just tackles like boyfriend and

1626
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 2: girlfriends and stuff like that. So this might be more his.

1627
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 4: Speed, especially given what's going on with him and the

1628
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 4: ladies these days.

1629
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: Well he's out on him now. Now he's out. Oh

1630
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't want one. The rest of the year is

1631
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: what I said. No, girlfriend's the rest of the year.

1632
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 2: I said, My guess, here's what I predicted. I said,

1633
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna paratroop back in end of the year

1634
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 2: because there will be like a party thing yep, And

1635
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 2: that's when you're gonna want to get back next, to

1636
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: get back in the mix.

1637
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 5: Uh.

1638
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 4: Enough from the Clown, a few more things for Uno

1639
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 4: and Griff. The thing that surprised you most working here,

1640
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 4: I think.

1641
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 6: It was like, how welcoming all of the football side

1642
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 6: of the people were I was expecting it from from

1643
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 6: you guys and from like the video. But the football

1644
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 6: people were incredibly welcoming to me when I would be

1645
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 6: in the locker room or the media room, and that

1646
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 6: was that was very nice of.

1647
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: Them, including your quarterback.

1648
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, for sure, there you go, Griff. Griff agrees

1649
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 6: with that. That's what he can go with.

1650
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 2: All right, Griff agrees with that.

1651
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 4: Something you learned you didn't anticipate.

1652
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 6: That's a good one.

1653
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: Tough questions from the clown.

1654
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 6: To be more aware of what I'm writing on these rundowns,

1655
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 6: because sometimes I didn't do the best that I could

1656
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 6: have anything to be more aware of it.

1657
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: I've done my job.

1658
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 6: I wrote rundowns in college and I just blew through

1659
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 6: them and I would just avoid the mistakes. But you

1660
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 6: can't do that here. So that was mine. Surprised me

1661
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 6: a lot.

1662
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: The good news is that when one of those things

1663
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 2: would happen, no one would bring it up or make

1664
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: light of it or bring it No.

1665
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 6: I've never heard Ron Burgundy in my.

1666
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 4: Life if you got one or know.

1667
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 8: I think for me, as far as especially on the

1668
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 8: video side of things, just how much of a process

1669
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 8: it is as far as making these large projects that

1670
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 8: we've done in the past. I yeah, this was definitely

1671
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 8: an eye opener for me. Pre production phase definitely was

1672
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 8: something new for me. But I enjoyed every minute of it,

1673
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 8: and I would say just how much it takes as

1674
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 8: far as making these projects for sure?

1675
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 2: All right, Griff, Well I got you right there.

1676
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 4: Sure, if you had to choose one lifelong mentor Gibbe,

1677
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 4: Uncle Bo or the franchise, who was m I a today?

1678
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: Who would you think it? Why? I didn't. That's not

1679
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: my words, That's that puts him in a tough spot.

1680
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 8: That's impossible that, Yeah, I can't just so forget mentor.

1681
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 2: Let me just one life coach.

1682
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 8: One life coach, just anyone in general, no of the

1683
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 8: three of us, not mentor Mentor is different.

1684
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: That's like a more serious thing. But just like life coach. Man,

1685
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 2: you're putting me on the spot here.

1686
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 8: If I've really had to choose one of you guys,

1687
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 8: it would probably be Gibbs, just because of how much

1688
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 8: time I've spent with them and how much he's just

1689
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 8: been a role model for me since I've been here,

1690
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 8: and I greatly appreciate.

1691
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 2: It, absolutely my friend. You earned it all you did well.

1692
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's really tough. I feel like I

1693
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 6: want to pick Bo because of he grew up in

1694
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 6: like a way different world than I grew up in

1695
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 6: in Montana. And there's all this stuff that I've never

1696
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 6: seen or done before that I think BO could really

1697
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 6: like even just like from a movie standpoint of things

1698
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 6: I've never seen, could put me on so much stuff

1699
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 6: that I've never been a part of in my life.

1700
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 2: Well, you got it, buddy. Anytime you need anything, I

1701
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: got you. All right, I got you, buddy. Absolutely, You're in.

1702
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: Did the Zoolander Now.

1703
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 6: It's all over the place. I had seventeen Twitter notifications.

1704
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: What he's capable of is it's in rapid fire fashion

1705
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 2: really quickly. Can get things done. I don't know even

1706
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: know how many six years into.

1707
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 4: This, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, these guys are great.

1708
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 2: I've run internship programs at ESPN. Uh.

1709
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 4: I think it took four years before I had an

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Speaker 4: intern here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: These two clearly head and shoulders above everybody else. So

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Speaker 4: I can't thank you guys enough. I'm gonna miss you

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01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 4: guys more than I think you're gonna miss the job itself.

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01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 4: But you know, if you need anything, the three of

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01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 4: us are all here for you and happy to help.

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Speaker 6: It's much appreciated.

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01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely so much. Are we done?

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01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 5: Good?

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01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 2: Yea mail banked out? All right? For mail bank out?

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01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 2: So much more to come. You're listening to Cleveland Browns

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01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 2: Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Balley bed Now

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01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,440
Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: All right. I would say this to the both of you.

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Speaker 2: You are everything that an intern should be prepared, eager, hungry,

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01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 2: great sense of humor. You guys had great sense of

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01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: humor about it. Uh, your work, ethic, your effort every

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01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 2: anytime from a serious standpoint. Anytime that I walked in here,

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Speaker 2: and as you guys know it, I come in hot,

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01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: knew we're gonna be good shape with both of you guys.

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Speaker 2: Anything you need, I got your back on any of it.

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01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 2: References anything I say that publicly, I have told that

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Speaker 2: both of you guys privately as well. The thing that

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Speaker 2: I think for the kids out there listening is when

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01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: you have an opportunity like this, you have to take

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01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: advantage of it, and I think you guys did and

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01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: and and that that's a credit to you guys as people,

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01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: your parents and everybody who raised you, that you're the

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01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: type of people who who who take advantage of things

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Speaker 2: that are presented to you.

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Speaker 6: I mean, working for my childhood team was like our

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01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 6: dream come true. So I felt like, you have to

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01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 6: give it your best, no matter what. And I would

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01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 6: say that I would agree, like, no matter what the

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Speaker 6: job is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: You have to do that.

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Speaker 6: So it was awesome for me to be able to

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Speaker 6: do that. I'm glad that I lived up to the

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Speaker 6: expectations that you did.

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Speaker 2: You did. You guys crushed it. We'll miss you, miss

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01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 2: your big time.

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01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 6: We'll miss the show. I'm gonna try and listen, but

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01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 6: I will miss this.

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01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: Well. Participate you could do just you can. You can

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01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 2: tweet tweet us. Yeah, God knows. The girl reads every tweet.

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01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 6: It's true.

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01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: He does.

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01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 4: From the thousands we get every day, fantastic one, He's

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Speaker 4: read every one.

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Speaker 2: All right, we are. Oh, we've got a special victory

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01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 2: uh victory edition of the show tomorrow. So we're gonna

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01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: do this all summer. The first one airs tomorrow. We

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01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 2: think you're gonna love it. It's a look back at

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01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: the opener against the Bengals. Give it a great job

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01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,719
Speaker 2: with This is gonna be a fun two hours tomorrow

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01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 2: on the program. You have that to look forward to,

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01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 2: which is nice. The next level is coming up next.

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01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 2: Thanks for listen, Baday, Cleveland Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland m