WEBVTT - Hour 2: Dogfights 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:16.840 This is a Jesse Kelly Show. Kenny is the Jesse 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.320 Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.799 a Friday, and ask doctor Jesse Friday, somebody wants to 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.640 talk about World War Two, dog fights, cups of coffee. 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.000 We're gonna talk about killers, These killers who write everything down, 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:37.479 the manifestos, my political arc, if you will, All that 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.479 and so much more coming up on the world Famous 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.360 Jesse Kelly Show. I'm going to get to this one 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.159 right off the bat. Jesse, what is to deal with 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:51.479 writing a manifesto? Manifesto? Why do killers write a manifesto 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.400 describing why they're going to commit mass destruction or murder? 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.400 Is this something they learned to do in college or something? 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:05.160 Why bother with a manifesto? I'm just curious, Okay. So 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.160 there is something that is very very real for all 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.520 human beings. This is about all of us, You and 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:20.400 me and everybody. People want to feel heard. They want 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.640 to feel important in some way. I don't mean necessarily 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.440 fame or something like that, but all human beings, all 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.679 of them, men, women, children, They want to feel like 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.480 they have a voice. They want to feel some amount 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.320 of power, some amount of power of control over the 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:45.320 things in their lives, and if you manipulate that in really, 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.840 really terrible ways, you can end up with what happens 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.200 with so many of these mass shooters, so many of 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:57.880 these killers. You see Columbine, it's something if you're young enough, 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.760 you weren't even alive because this was so many years ago. Chris, 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.240 wasn't Columbine the nineties? I forget. I'm pretty sure it 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.160 was the nineties, But anyway, I was a kid. Wohen't 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:11.760 Columbine happened? I was young anyway, And Chris said, ninety nine, Okay, yeah, 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.919 it was the year I graduated high school? Was Columbine? 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.800 Now again, it's so weird because our world has changed 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:22.280 so much in the last twenty six years. Before Colinbine, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.880 it's not as if there wasn't ever a mass shooting, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.840 but it really was almost unheard of. It was almost 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.280 completely unheard of. It just is not one of those 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:39.799 things that happened. And then after Colinbine, they're all the time. Now, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.320 Let's be honest, it's every year. There will be generally 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:48.720 multiple a year with various degrees of death, right, but 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:54.600 there are multiple a year. What happened, well, a really horrible, 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.880 toxic stew of things happened at once that has created 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.240 mass shooting culture. So we're not going to go into 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:07.000 all of it, the medications they're on, and I'm not 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.320 even going to go into the communist aspect of it. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.760 I'm gonna set all that stuff aside here. One of 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.800 the worst parts of it was the Colin Bine school 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:23.120 shooters were made instantly famous, instantly. I could tell you 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.120 right now, and I will not even though you already 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.320 know it. I could tell you their names off the 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.680 top of my head right now because after that horrible 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.399 school shooting, it was such a shock. I'm not even 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.880 blaming the media or anyone on the left or right. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.720 It was such a shock. It was such a sea change. Wait, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.119 a bunch of school kids got mowed down by their classmates. 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.480 It was such a shock that it was all the 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.000 news could talk about. And I was a young man, right, 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.040 a teenager at seventeen, eighteen years old. It was all 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.280 you could see on the television forever. It seemed like 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.040 for a year. You would see their names, you would 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.760 see their faces, the pictures of them up. They would 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.400 be interviewing the victims and talk about the parents, and 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:13.320 those guys became famous immediately. Well, now let's talk about 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.719 how twisted up in evil you have to be to 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:23.400 decide you want to murder other human beings, oftentimes indiscriminately. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:29.200 You are angry for, maybe you are bullied. I will 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.760 always believe, most often that these people are demon possessed 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.960 in some way. Demons are real. When you read a 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.680 story about a mother drowning or babies in a bathtub, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.760 almost universally she will talk about the voices in her 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.640 head telling you to do so. Those are demons, right, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.800 I believe that it's again a mixture of a bunch 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.680 of things. You hate your life, you're angry, your whatever, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:56.040 and now you want to hurt people. Well, not only 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:00.279 do you want to hurt people. This publicity call culture 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.960 we have now it gives you the ability to hurt people, 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:12.000 to hurt people publicly, and to get famous for it. Now, 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:18.919 if you're some mentally ill, demonic loser who hates everything, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.280 you've decided to become murderous. You decided you want to 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:28.599 murder people. Being famous, even if it's famous in death, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:33.560 even if it's fame, you will never see. Being famous, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.280 it's very, very appealing and maybe you're the type of 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.080 person before the fame came with it. Maybe you're the 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.400 type of person who wouldn't have actually gone through with it. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.240 Yeah you hate your classmates or your teacher, or your 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.200 mob or whatever it is, and yeah you want to 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:54.760 kill them, but you you didn't have the little nudge 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.559 to push you over the edge to do it. Time 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.560 after time after time after time after time. We see this. Now, 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.720 they write it down, they talk about it, they want 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.480 to do it, they end up doing it. The final 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:14.000 nudge is the fact that they will become known and famous. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.719 And even if you say to yourself right now, well, yeah, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.200 but they're so common, you'll only be famous for twenty 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.480 four hours, and then everyone will forget. That's twenty four 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.120 hours longer than that person has felt relevant and important 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.960 for the entirety of their lives. For twenty four hours, 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.000 people will know their names. And it's why I have 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.919 a rule, and I try the best I can to 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.120 stick with it. I am not perfect. I know I've 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.760 screwed it up in the past. I don't say their names. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.599 I do not do it. I have always believed that 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.800 that should be a national policy. I'm not going to 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.840 say a national law because you really don't want to 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.359 start making vas about things like that. I think it 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:58.320 should become an understandable part of our culture, where everybody 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:04.440 talked about a major news organizations, you on social media blogs, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.400 you name it. I think there should be an embargo 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:12.800 on naming these people because that is the difference. That's 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.840 why it ramped up. The first guys who did it 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:19.880 in Columbine got mega famous and got mega famous for 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.760 a long time. And if you're at home and you 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.440 feel like you have nothing to lose and you're demonic 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:30.080 and you get your hands on a weapon, whoa one 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:34.480 day's worth of fame while taking out all that anger 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:39.920 can make the difference. And that's why they write everything down. Two. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.160 They want you to know. They want you to find 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:48.000 these things. They want you to find their notebook. They're manifesto. 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.680 I'm mad at my dad, I'm mad at this Christian school, 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.400 I'm mad at Republicans, I'm mad at They want you 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.800 to know it, and they want it read aloud on 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:02.000 CNN at night. It finally pushes them over the edge 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:06.200 to do it. You would have a fraction, a tiny 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.600 fraction of the school shootings. If these kids didn't get 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:16.520 famous for a day. But I don't want to say 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.840 society today, because society has always been this way every 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.440 period of time in history is the same way. If 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.680 it bleeds, it leads. That's what they say in the media, 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.480 feel good stories. You know, every single local newscast in 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.679 the country. I guarantee you have a local news station 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.480 in your area that tries this. Every newscast tries to 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.960 do a once a week. It's feel good Fridays, and 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.120 they'll highlight some lady who works at a soup soup 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.280 kitchen hand and out, or famous biscuits and let's introduce 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.319 Gwen and stuff like that. You know what's the lowest 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.160 rated thing they do all week, every single time. Because 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.800 we human beings, we want to see the bombs and 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:05.280 the bullets and the blood, the tragedy. It's a part 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.840 of how we're made. I don't I'm not absolving myself 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.920 from that. We were supposed to go see a movie 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.640 later on tonight, that new Christian movie King of Kings. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.040 It's supposed to be wonderful. I've heard it's really wonderful. Hey, Chris, 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.079 you going And I'm kidding, But we were supposed to 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.240 go see King of Kings later on tonight. Ob got 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.640 the flu, so now we don't have to go. I'm 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.640 thrilled about it. Why no one's getting shot. And it's 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.760 a great movie, right, it's a good message and you 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.400 should go see it. And I will go see it 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.000 because I want to give them my business. I just 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.760 can't do it tonight because AB is sick. But I 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:42.120 don't want to go see a movie about Jesus. I 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.880 want to go see I think there's a new movie 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.960 out called Warfare. I know there's a movie out called 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.040 working Man where we're a good guy who knows a 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.280 bunch of special forces stuff ends up murdering a bunch 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.000 of bad guys. Blood. That's what I want to see. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.800 I'm guilty of pointing fingers, right, that's who we are. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.520 And so the news when one of these things happen, 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:10.080 they love it because you love it, because I love it, 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.839 And that's the sadness of it. Right. Let's get off 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:18.280 of that. Let's talk about dog fights, my political journey, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.280 many many other things still to come. Let me talk 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:26.960 to you about your weekend. What are you going to do? 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.679 You're gonna have some family time this weekend, after all, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.720 it's easter, Chris, you're going to have some time. What 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.480 if you got the kids together, or maybe just did 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.520 this by yourself, depending on what you got going. What 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:47.040 if you started the Understanding Capitalism course from Hillsdale College 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.000 this weekend. I'm not even asking you to get up 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.240 from the couch or get off your phone. Do it 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:57.079 on your phone. It's online. Hillsdale College has more than 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:05.480 forty free online courses. Go try one. Understanding capitalism will 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.600 teach you about how human nature plays a role in it, 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.480 private property rights, the rule of law, why it's a 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:19.040 system that actually encourvages morality. Understanding capitalism is a critical 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.280 tool to have in your tool belt when you are 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.560 wading through the muck of this culture. Gole, It's only 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:26.319 seven lectures. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:26.440 Go. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:30.480 If there's no cost, why wouldn't you do it? Hillsdale 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:38.000 dot Edu slash Jesse Hillsdale dot Edu slash Jesse. We'll 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:46.720 be back, Jesse Kelly Vaccian. It is the Jesse Kelly 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:52.240 Show on a Friday. A fantastic ass, Doctor Jesse Friday. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.240 You can still email us your love, your hatre, your 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.760 death threats. You're ask doctor Jesse questions. We're live here 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:02.560 Jesse at Jesse Kelly com. And remember if you miss 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.480 any part of the show, you can download the whole 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:09.040 thing on iHeart, Spotify iTunes. Hey Jesse, quick question about 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:14.040 World War two dog fights? What are your thoughts? I 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:18.160 don't know why you would ask me about flight and 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.720 things like that when you should be asking Gail Kane. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.400 And I'm so proud of us. I really am proud 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:24.360 of me because. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.880 I never in a gazillion years thought I could do this, 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.520 and I just saw a video of us walking up 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.920 the I don't want to call plank, but. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.040 What's the proper? What's the proper? 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.720 You gotta trust in yourself on this journey, and then 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.840 you're feeling in love when you come down for sure, 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.000 and you're feeling fat strength. So I feel really connected 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:47.319 to that strong, divine feminine right now. 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.000 I sailed on my first try. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.760 I just let the boat do the work. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:56.240 That was my secret. I'm sorry. It's never gonna stop 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.040 being funny anyway. So I don't have a lot of 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.440 thoughts on dog fights. Actually I take that back. I 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.120 have tons of thoughts on dogfights, but I am not 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.920 a pilot, okay, So I need to stress that I 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.280 am not a pilot, but I am, however, a dude 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.400 who's obsessed with warfare like every other dude is. And 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.520 one thing that I have learned is there's a lot 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.960 that goes into this stuff. I have a I'm gonna 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.560 see how delicate I can be answering this question. I 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:33.080 have somebody I know very well who is a current 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:39.120 fighter pilot, like a big boy type, and to hear 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.560 him discuss it is fascinating. And we were having to 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.000 talk about this, about who wins, who doesn't win, and 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.320 stuff like that, and in fact, we were talking about 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.120 different kinds of jets. We were discussing our new F 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:55.000 thirty five versus this jet or that jet. And he said, 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.880 you know what F thirty five buys me? I said, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.760 what he says about a quarter of a US second. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.760 And I said, okay, so you're not that impressed. He said, no, No, 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.640 a quarter of a second's everything. A quarter of a 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.560 second's me winning and you die. It buys me time 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.960 you don't have, and a quarter of a second is 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:18.679 the difference between me being alive and you dye. So 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.680 I am actually going to I'll tell you what. I'll 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:27.480 give you a podcast that's not even mine that. I'm 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.840 warning you now it might bore you, but you might 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.640 nerd out on it. Elon Musk, who you obviously know. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.240 Elon Musk is brilliant beyond belief when it comes to 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.560 flights and engines and rockets. He's just one of these types. Okay, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.360 you know who Dan Carlin is. Dan Carlin does a 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.040 bunch of history podcasts. Maybe you've listened to him, maybe 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:55.240 you haven't. Whatever, it doesn't matter. But Dan Carlin, I 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.160 can't point to you. I can't give you a link 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:58.920 because I don't know it. I don't have it in 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:00.840 front of me, So don't email me asking me to 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.320 do the work for you. Go find it. Dan Carlon 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.000 did a podcast with Elon Musk, and their topic of 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.440 discussion was it was actually about World War two planes 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.840 and things like that. And if you're not a reader, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.880 I prefer to read this stuff. But if you're not 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.880 a reader and you want something kind of fed to 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.080 you audibly, which you probably enjoy, right, otherwise he wouldn't 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.600 be listening to me, go download that. It's free, if 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.040 I remember right, it's free. At least it was they 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.120 describe things or Elon really does the heavy lifting, but 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.840 describing things that I honestly didn't even think of before. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.040 There are planes, there are engines that they do really 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:43.640 really well up until they get too high, and then 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.400 they don't do well at a certain altitude. There are 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.080 planes that do better when they're diving versus planes that 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.800 can only rise so fast, like little things that non 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.880 pilots like me. Again, I know, I'm a lay person. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.880 I know we have a bunch of pilots who actually listen, 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.800 commercial rate line pilots and fighter pilots. So don't email 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.480 me and yell at me because I'm an idiot. I know, 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.280 I don't know, but there are more things that go 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.640 into it than you can imagine. This plane was great, 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.360 but at a certain point it wouldn't work well if 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.520 you were trying to do this with it because it 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.120 couldn't dive at that angle. And they'll just talk endlessly. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.320 You can nerd out about the different types of planes, 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.600 the different engines. Why was this one great? Why did 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.160 this one usually beat this one but this one lost 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.480 to that one. I will compare it in this way, 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.400 very very very much to a styles Make Fights type thing, 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.000 like an MMA, a UFC type thing where one guy. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.920 Maybe his style is just uniquely tailored to beat the 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.120 guy across from him, but he can't beat the next guy, 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.360 who isn't necessarily better, he just has a different style. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.080 So there's all kinds of different planes and wild things. 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.960 But also there's a second part of this which I 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:03.040 really love. Pilot skin seemed to be. It seemed to 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:06.399 be from everything I've read on it, seventy five percent 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.639 of it, sixty seventy five percent of it. Have you 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.639 ever remember these Medal of Honor citations we do every Monday. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.000 We've done ones on pilots before, and the numbers are 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.440 a little eye popping sometimes right when you see, Wait, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.639 one of our fighters went up and just he just 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.879 shot down six planes? What was everyb what were they 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.720 all doing? He would just charge our pilots would just 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.840 charge one guy. He would charge twenty planes and he 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.920 wouldn't even die. I mean a lot of our guys 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.680 did die. It wouldn't even die. He just mowed through six, 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:43.720 seven guys. He was so much better than the pilots. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.360 He was facing so much more experience. Because America had 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:51.720 a really, really, really smart training cycle. We would take 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.399 our best pilots and instead of leaving them out there 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.560 till they die, we would cycle them back into America 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.679 to train the next generation. With all that experience, we 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.680 just had better pilots and we would just mow through 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.800 the other side, mo through the other side. Anyway, those 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:12.040 are my thoughts on dogfighting. Let's talk about Congress and 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:18.760 coffee next. This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:23.240 the Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday. And asked doctor 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.480 Jesse Friday, before I get back to the questions, uh, 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:30.160 Jewish producer Chris brought up the Medal of Honor citation. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.040 We read one time for Marine Corps pilot in World 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:37.480 War two Pacific James Elms sweat And I thought, even 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.639 though it's not Monday, I thought, just to kind of 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.280 prove a point about the fighter pilot thing, I thought, 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.520 maybe we should do a little mini Friday edition. What 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.359 do you think? Hey? Oh, by the way, man is 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.159 still alive to this day? Chris said, he's over one 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:54.480 hundred one oh two. He's one o two. Chris, Chris, 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:59.320 he's actually dead. Did I just announce to everybody I'm 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:03.360 Live Radio that the man is alive and he's dead? Chris? 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.239 He died in two thousand and nine. So he's been 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.440 dead for a long time. It's like he's not even 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.760 a little bit dead. It's not how they can pull 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.640 out the paddles and shock him back to life. He's 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.240 actually been dead for almost two decades, and I just 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.840 told everyone he was alive. This is this is what 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:26.760 I work with here, Hey, honoring those who went above 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:35.879 and beyond. It's medal of Honor Monday. This is for 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:40.280 a James Elms Sweat born in Seattle, Washington. Also he's 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:44.159 dead for extraordinary heroism and personal valor above and beyond 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.520 the call of duty. As division leader of Marine Fighting 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:52.440 Squadron two to two one with Marine Aircraft Aircraft Group twelve, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:57.280 first Marine Aircraft Wing in action against enemy Japanese aerial 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:01.119 forces in the Solomon Islands area seven of April nineteen 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.800 forty three. In a daring flight to intercept a wave 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:10.280 of one hundred and fifty Japanese planes, a League First Lieutenant, 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:17.320 Sweat unhesitatingly hurled his four plane division into action against 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:24.640 a formation of fifteen enemy bombers and personally exploded three 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:29.000 hostile planes in mid air with accurate and deadly fire 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:33.760 during his dive. Although separated from his division. While clearing 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:38.480 the heavy concentration of anti aircraft fire, he boldly attacked 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:42.800 six enemy bombers, engaged the first four in turn, and 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:49.320 unaided shot down all in flames, exhausting his ammunition. As 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:53.240 he closed to the fifth enemy Japanese bomber, he relentlessly 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:58.480 drove his attack against terrific opposition, which partially disabled his engine, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:03.399 shattered the winds screen, and slashed his face. In spite 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.800 of this, he brought his battered plane down with skillful 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.920 precision in the water off to Loggi without further injury. 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:15.520 The superb airmanship and tenacious fighting spirit which enabled First 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:19.400 Lieutenant Swept to destroy seven enemy bombers in a single 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:23.120 flight were in keeping with the highest traditions of US 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:31.199 Naval services. And I believe, if memory serves me, that 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:36.480 it was actually some tribesmen, some natives in canoes who 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.920 went and got him on an underrated I bet you 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.160 there are good books written about this. I've only read 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.560 books that weren't about it, who talked about it an 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:46.880 underrated part of World War Two in the Pacific were 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:51.720 all these islands. The Japanese would take over all these islands, 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.400 but they didn't own every square inch of the island. 0:21:55.840 --> 0:22:01.080 There were oftentimes tribal peoples tribes who were on the 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.639 island who didn't like the horrible Japanese oppression because you 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.200 can imagine how the Japanese would treat tribal peoples when 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:11.320 they ran into them, and they would aid the various 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:15.520 British and American guerrilla fighters. They would give us information, 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.840 they would rescue our guys. They mean, it's a really 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.719 cool part of World War Two. I'm surprised. I'm surprised 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.040 they haven't made a movie over something like that. Oh well, 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.480 hollywould have probably screwed it up anyway. Jesse, I know 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.840 you grew up Republican but not overly political, and later 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:33.000 ran for Congress as a conservative. But at what point 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.439 did you finally get the whole picture and become a 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:39.480 true anti communist? How did this transition happen for you? 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:42.800 I know you're mentally slow, so it gives me hope 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:45.960 for others. Just kidding, Thanks for sharing your experience. Okay, 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:50.160 So here's kind of my story for those who are 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.360 new to the show. And I realized there are many 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.840 that are new to the show. So, like you said, 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.280 I did not grow up in a highly political household. 0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.960 We were just a construction family. That's all we did. 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:05.159 We were patriotic, though there was always that aspect to it. 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.320 And as I've said, the only political conversation I can 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.639 ever remember having with my parents was I asked my 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.880 dad once when I was I think it was kindergarten, hey, 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.719 are we democrats of Republicans? And he said, we're Republicans. 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:19.800 And that's the only thing he ever said. Okay, that's 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.359 the way it went. But we weren't hugely political. I 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:27.679 have always been a history freak, even as a child, 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:32.960 a small child, I was that nerd reading books. I 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.199 love to read. I've always loved to read, hoovering up 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.280 as much of that stuff as I could and join 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:43.239 the Marines. Still not hugely political. I'm a Republican at 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:46.880 this point, but still not hugely political. I get out 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:51.520 of the Marines after four years, still not hugely political. 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.920 I go back to work in construction. I'm working out 0:23:56.000 --> 0:24:00.160 of town. I'm working in a place called Ajo, Arizona, 0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:03.280 this tiny little town we're living in Tucson, Arizona. At 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.119 the time. Aub and I and I have all this 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.000 extra time on the road. All this time on the roagues, 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.520 I'm driving out of town. I've got this construction job. 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:17.560 So I start consuming books on tape and more political 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.160 radio just because it happened to be on at the time. 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:25.760 And I started consuming this stuff, and I start to 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:29.680 feel obligated to get involved politically. That's really what really 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.760 sparked my interest in it. I didn't like what was 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.359 happening to the country. I really did not like Barack Obama, 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.879 and I wanted to get involved. So I ran for 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:43.240 Congress twice out of nowhere. I'd never been in office, 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:45.840 I'd never run for anything, but I was just mad. 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.600 Turns out I wasn't bad at it. I won the 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.680 Republican nomination twice for Congress. Can you believe that I 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.600 almost won the actual congressional seat. It was four thousand 0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.720 votes separated Gabrielle Giffords and I. So it was just 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:03.520