1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode contains spoilers for The Acolyte episode six. 2 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Who Oh, My name is Jason Stepsion. 3 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: And I'm Rosie Knight, who's co host is clearly a 4 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Wookie today and. 5 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: I love it. I'm happy about it And. 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Dexter Vision of the podcast. Will we dive 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: bit to your favorite shows, movies, comics at pop culture 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: coming to you from my art podcast, where we're bringing 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: you two action packed episodes every week Tuesday and Thursday. 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: In today's episode, we got news news news for you. 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: In the previously on Comic Book News, it's everywhere in 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: the airlock, we're stepping out of the airlock and onto 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: a very familiar, unnamed island. 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: For The Acolyte episode six. 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: In Who's Who, we're gonna be talking about our favorite 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: Sith and our favorite Lightsabers. 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: But first news, First up, there was a fan event 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: in Shanghai in which about half an hour's worth of 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Deadpool and Wolverine was screened, and now the details about that. 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 4: Screening have hit the internet. 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: They have, so beware of spoilers. 22 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: If you want to know nothing at all and nothing, 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: then don't listen to the following thirty to forty five 24 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: seconds because I'm going to I'm going to give you 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: the headline takeaways that. 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: Have hit the that have hit the internet, So turn 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: off now if you don't want to hear. 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: The movie has This is all according to leaks that 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: have appeared on social and read it and everywhere. The 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: film has a violent connection with the end of the 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Logan film. That's not much. 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: That's not much, I mean. 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: But also that to me is good because I was 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: worried that might have been a bit too serious. I'm 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: hoping that means that we're going to see Lovely daf Nick, 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: Keane rip Jecky come back as X twenty three. 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: Feels like it's a done deal. 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: There are variants of Logan makes sense. There are a 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: lot of Fox and Disney jokes, of course. 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: I mean, that's not that was just it to be expected. 41 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: I saw that there there is Lady Deadpool, and while 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: people thought it was going to be Taylor Swift, apparently 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: people are now thinking it's Blake Lively, which would be hilarious. 44 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: It's all in the family, the family, Nepo Deadpool. 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: It's Another takeaway appears to be that the uh, everything 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: in the trailers in the first forty minutes of the film. 47 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 4: That's standard procedure. 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: I think small. I'm glad Disney's going back to that. 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: And finally, it felt like a combination of the feeling 50 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: of Avengers Endgame and mixed with Deadpool's tone. 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I mean if that's if that's not just 52 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 2: like overfan hyper Bowl, that could. 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: Be a big thing. 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: Is this movie to make a billion dollars? Will it 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: be as big as Inside Out too? I think it 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: could be. I think people want to know what an 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: R rated MCU movie looks like. 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: Well, the tracking is very good, and you can tell 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: the tracking is very good by the fact that they're 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: showing thirty to forty minutes of this movie two and 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: a half weeks before the movie is gonna come out, 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Like that's they know. 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: They know that they got something, and they know they're 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: going to get people excited. Plus, it's going to Europe next, 65 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: and I think you're going to get to see that 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: big Hollywood style. Global press talkers Sean Levy, Hugh Jackman, 67 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: and Ryan Reynolds were all in Shanghai, Shanghai for this 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: event and it's going to be Europe next. Will they 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: show the same thirty minutes. Will they show different stuff 70 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: as we get closer? When are the screenings gonna be? Disney, 71 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: Please tell me and Jason when the. 72 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: Screening is going to be. We would like to go 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: and see the movie. But yeah, I'm very excited. 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: I think this sounds cool and I love that they 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: started this in Shanghai. 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Next up, legendary artist Alex Ross producing a documentary about 77 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: legendary artist Alex Ross. 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 5: The Legend of Kingdom Car The Legend of Myself, The 79 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 5: Legend of Alex Ross, who, by the way, was only 80 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 5: twenty six when he drew this book, which I think 81 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 5: is one of the most insane things. 82 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: I've ever heard, and he was twenty four when he 83 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: did the Marvels Kingdom Come. 84 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: It's basically like you've seen the paintings. 85 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: It's this very dark else world's story about some certain heroes. 86 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: You should really go read it, because I I don't 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: wanna spoil it for you. 88 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: But something that's very interesting is it is seems like 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: it's going to be a big influence on the old 90 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: James gunniverse. And it's just a four issue minutes Mark Wade, 91 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: Alex Ross, and basically this is about like a day 92 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: a kind of dem a gogue called Margog who kind 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: of starts killing people like the Joker. So all the 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: superheros retire and low and behold. That doesn't go well, 95 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: and then kind of new superheros have to team up 96 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: with old. 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: Superheroes and Alex Ross. 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: What I'm most excited about with this documentary is this 99 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: man loves to paint his friends and paint himself as superheros. 100 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: And that always the chunkiest, thickest guy chunky five like 101 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: buff chubby like again god tagam like painting, Like I 102 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: I want to see this. I'm also interested because a 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: lot of the promotion I saw for it was like 104 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: DC Comics Kingdom Come. But I think this is just 105 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: an Alex Ross project. And if you know Alex Ross, 106 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: if you've ever been San Diego Comic Con, that man 107 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: has like a full Alex Ross gallery in San Diego, fully. 108 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: Full gallery show. 109 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: His ex went painting. Yes, I did buy a print 110 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: of his expert. 111 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: So the Kickstarter is not live yet, but we thought 112 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: you guys might want to know about it. I know 113 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: a lot of your Kingdom Come fans. If you go 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: to Kickstarter, you can find it and you can get 115 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: notified on launch, which they're saying is Fall twenty twenty. 116 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: Four, so that it should be very interesting. I think this. 117 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: Supports the fact I think this might be Alex trying 118 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: to say, hey, look at this great work I did, 119 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: because I think some of it is going to translate 120 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: to the James Gunn movie. The spoiler images that we've 121 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: seen of mister terrific he is wearing. He looks exactly 122 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: like the drawing that Alex ROSTIV Kingdom come. 123 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 3: So, Yeah, very interesting stuff. 124 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: I love a. 125 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: Weird comic book documentary. 126 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: The question is will this one come out soon or 127 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: will it be like the recently released Frank Miller American 128 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: Legend or ever it's called that literally took ten years 129 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: to release. 130 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: Let's hope it takes quicker than that. 131 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: Next up, Empire Magazine has official exclusive stills from Agatha 132 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: all Along. You can see those now and you can 133 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: find them on the internet, and they are appropriately. 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: Witchy, very witchy. 135 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: These drops September eighteenth, of two episode launch and confirmed 136 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: nine episode series length. 137 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: Excited for this when long awaited? 138 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, looks great, very excited. 139 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: The only thing we know about is so far from 140 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: this report is that it's about a group of covenless 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: witches who kind of come together. I'm also stoked because 142 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: they said it's really fun but really scary, and I 143 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: think we need more of that. I'm a fun, scary guy. 144 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: I love a good horror comedy. So yeah, cast looks amazing. 145 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: I can't believe it's actually coming out. This felt it 146 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: one of those shows that was never going to come out. 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: So congratulations to everyone in this show. 148 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: It's coming out. 149 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: And finally, per variety, Will Reeves, the youngest son of 150 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: legendary actor and of course, legendary Superman actor Christopher Reeves, 151 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: will appear in James Gun's Superman. Love that fam Keep 152 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: it in the Family's Yeah, jamis and Christopher Reeves iconic, iconic. 153 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: And James is actually doing really great work with this, 154 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: not only with representing the comic books it was influenced in, but. 155 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: He also played a part. 156 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: I believe there was a recent Christopher Reeve's documentary that's 157 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: called Superman with a slash between and James Gunn saw 158 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: it and was like, Warner Brothers needs to be the 159 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: one who is putting this out, like this should be us. 160 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: So he's doing a lot of work to bring in 161 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: the families of people who were involved, and I hope 162 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: we see that extent. Maybe having we saw the comic 163 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: creators visiting the set, maybe you have some families of 164 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: the comic creators who passed away come to the set, 165 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: maybe be involved. I think this is a really sweet 166 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: way to pay homage to the man who too many 167 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: people still is Superman. 168 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: Next up the Accolte episode six, It's happening. 169 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, we open on an unknown planet. 170 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: Looks familiar, looks familiar ish. Yeah. 171 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: Osha wakes up in a base of some sort and 172 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: she sees belongings clearly, some of them belonging to May 173 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: around those cute little creatures running around, and she kind 174 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: of stumbles out to the entrance of the base and 175 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: finds herself on an island, kind of mountainous, type of. 176 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: Very lush green look it's giving acto. They say, it's 177 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: an unnamed island. Very strong, giving, very strong acto vibes. Well, remember, 178 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: we did see a master and his potential padawan having 179 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: some important. 180 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: Storylines including Darth players. But guess what. 181 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: Osha is not there alone. She is accompanied by the 182 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: very hot sith Lord Night of Red someone no, no, 183 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: this florid and training the flood and training and Kymer Slash, 184 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: the stranger Slash, whoever you think he is. 185 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: He's in the waters of the island and he is naked. 186 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: Listen it killing half a dozen Jedi at a trot 187 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: and several like weird manta ray flying Manta ray creatures. 188 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: It's sweaty, dirty business. And after that you gotta get 189 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: cleaned up. Cameer strips down, gets in the water and 190 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: takes a little bath. Meanwhile, as this is going on, 191 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: May of course is infiltrated Sault ship under the guise 192 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: of being her twin sister Osha, and she's kind of 193 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: investigating for yeah, waiting for the right moment to strike. 194 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: But meanwhile, our good friend Basil, big Nose, Oh Basil, 195 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: Big old factory, Big old factory sensors. 196 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: I was a Basil battalion. 197 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: But I do feel like in this episode Basil has 198 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: gone from cute, weird creature to absolute snitch. 199 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: So he's actually he is on my bad books. I 200 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: do not support him anymore. 201 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: He is sniffing around the ship and he's like, got 202 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: Pip and he puts Pip on to charge and he's like, oh, 203 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: you know, something smells off. Here and Soul, I have 204 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: to say, is acting very suspicious. 205 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 4: He's literally acting a really weird. 206 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: Like very weird, very he can't get he can kind 207 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: of get in touch with the Jedi but not. 208 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: And then he's he's going. 209 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: Downstairs and he's crying and he's punching the table and 210 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, so you're not supposed to feel anger, remember. 211 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, he's acting like the way someone acts when you 212 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: know their significant other has been like let me see 213 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: your phone. 214 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: Exactly absolutely, and so it's like, really, what I love 215 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: about this episode, which is something our discord pointed out too, 216 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: is like you get this switch here where the entire 217 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: time Osha has been kind of the funny mechnic and 218 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: she's playing around with her droid and she's getting to 219 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: have these adventures and May is the dark Assassin, she's 220 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: on the dark side, she's killing Jedi. But in this 221 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: we get this tone switch where you know, Osha picks 222 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: up a lightsaber and sexy Sith Stranger played by this 223 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: super hot manager Sinto, is like looking at her like 224 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: do it, just do it? Like you can kill me? 225 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: Like doesn't it feel good to hold it? Doesn't it 226 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: feel good to feel the force running through you. What meanwhile, 227 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: May is getting like shot in the eye by like 228 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: fuel on Soul's ship because Pip's trying to like get 229 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: her in trouble and she's getting comedy beats. 230 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: And I just thought that was such a fun. 231 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: Little way to twist it around and kind of give 232 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: us a different insight into each of these characters. And really, like, 233 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: I do feel like May you made the wrong choice 234 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: sneaking onto that ship, because OSHA's definitely having a better time. 235 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: Well to that end, Chimer's in the water. He strips 236 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: all the way down. Osha is like, well, I gotta 237 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: see this, and one thing we see is a gnarly 238 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: scar oh yeah on Chymer's back. Nary Yeah, And as 239 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned, kind of sneaks down to his pile of clothes, 240 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: picks up the lightsaber, and you get the feeling that 241 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: this is what Kimer was hoping this would happen, he 242 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: sensed that it could happen. And then something like the 243 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: seduction begins. He's being very charming, he's being very relaxed. Yeah, 244 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: doesn't it feel great to hold? 245 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: He's taking this deduction to a new level because he's like. 246 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: Is it okay if I put my clothes on. 247 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: The line that launched a thousand fan fish. 248 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: He says, if you're not going to join me, I'd 249 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: like to put my clothes on now, Okay, okay, Enemies 250 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: the Lover's Ya book, okay, like and then the best part, 251 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: And I have to say I did not clock this, 252 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: but our discord my incredible friend and editor Amelia at 253 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: ign because I wrote a big piece about this for them, 254 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: which we'll be live now. 255 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: And oh takes a full eye fall. 256 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 4: Of the past, like desire is the path of the 257 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: dark side. 258 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: Eye line is right on his junk and it is 259 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: very hilarious, and lots of memes have been done. But 260 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: I love the fact that he's like he's like he's 261 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: like naked, and he's like, you know, desire, anger, those 262 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: are the things that like connect us to the force. 263 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: You know, are you feeling you're feeling any desire right now? 264 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: And then he puts on this is very interesting and 265 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: and Aaron kind of pointed this out our super producer 266 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: before he came on. 267 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: But like he has these crispy white robes, like these 268 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: are not Sith robes. 269 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: This isn't this is someone who likes to play with 270 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: the notion of who is good who is bad? 271 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: And definitely I think you're right. 272 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna lie Osher is much better 273 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: than me, because I would be like, that's it. I'm in, 274 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: Like where have you got wherever you're selling? I'm doing it, 275 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: Like I believe I'm I would be a sucker for 276 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: this seduction. And I love this because I felt like 277 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: it was a very nuanced look at like who's. 278 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: Bad, who's good? 279 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: But I love this take that I saw in our discord, 280 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: which was like, actually, you're being seduced, like you you 281 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: are falling for the seduction to the dark side. That 282 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: is what this episode puts you in the mind of. 283 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: It's showing how you can be seduced. 284 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, on the ship, as you mentioned, Osha is May 285 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: sneaking excuse me, May is sneaking around Basil. It has 286 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: sniffed out that there's something wrong here. There's a little 287 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: bit of a confrontation both Basil and with Pip that 288 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: ends with Ohsha and I found this quite disturbing. Actually, 289 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: Osha factory resets. I know, I know May May's Osha 290 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: factory resets Pip, which I mean, if you I was 291 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: very considered if you consider Droid's sentient, which I I do, 292 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: this was fucking. 293 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: Evil, okay, was it nice? 294 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: Is very evil? 295 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: But also like I was really upset about it, but 296 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: Nick was like reassuring me. He was like, don't worry, Like, actually, 297 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: you know, I think like Pip's just pretending like she 298 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: she thinks she knows the factory reset, but actually Pip 299 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: just turned those little eyes red and was like hiding, 300 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: you know, to because because if not, that is like evil, 301 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: that's like giving someone a lobotomy, like don't do it, 302 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: don't reset the factory settings, which I also thought was 303 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: really funny because that's such a modern phrase. I feel 304 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: like like I was thinking. 305 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 7: About my phone and I was like, okay, okay, okay, 306 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 7: may And so she does that, and then that I 307 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 7: think is really when Soul realizes that it's not. 308 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Saul's been blinded and by the anger and. 309 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: The huge and he didn't realize you know, when may 310 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: as Osha comes onto the ship, he wraps her up 311 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: in this huge hug that's very Unjedi like. But I 312 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: think when he sees Pip with the red eyes, he's like, oh, 313 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: this is not Osha, you know. So then what does 314 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: he do where he stuns? He just shoots out with 315 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: a stung gun. Sah, what are you thinking? 316 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I don't think there are any good answers, 317 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: to be honest. Right now, back on back on Love Islands, 318 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: He's he fit. In the he is Fit, Kimer is 319 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of telling May a little bit about himself by 320 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: way of his gear. He's talking about his cortosis helmet, 321 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: which many had figured out was a cortosis helmet. 322 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were right, you were right. Everyone was right. 323 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: Everyone was right. And this helmet apparently. 324 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: Is based on I thought that was so good, the 325 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: sensory deprivation helmets that the Jedi train with, of course, 326 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: the famous scene with Luke with the blast shield down 327 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: on the Millennium Falcon, and this allows the wearer to 328 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: essentially be alone with the force. No other sensory input 329 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: is come except that which the Force allows you. 330 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: And it stopped Jedies from being able to mind wipe you, 331 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: which is obviously something that is really huge and is 332 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: gonna be a big storyline for this season because it's 333 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: been a recurring thought with Kaimer. 334 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: We've learned about We saw the witches do it to Torbin. 335 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: We know that maybe May and OSHA's memories aren't the same, 336 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: and you know May said to Osha that she'd been brainwashed, 337 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: so the Krtosa's helmet is a big deal. He also says, 338 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: you know, this is based on how Jedi's trained, and 339 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: OSHA's like, well, how would you know that? 340 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: And he's like, I was. 341 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: A Jedi hashtag Vnestra was right, you got me. I 342 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: was a Jedi, but I was thrown away just like you. 343 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 7: That's right. 344 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: He also says, you know, I was trying to work 345 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: with your sister. I was wrong about her. She we 346 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: didn't have the same goals, Like she's just like strictly 347 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: out for revenge and so I was just like, well, 348 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: what are you What were you looking for? And he's like, 349 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking for uh uh oh bomb. 350 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 4: But what does he say? 351 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: Rosie the power of two bay. 352 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: So this to me was obviously if we needed any 353 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 3: more confirmation, this is very sith covid. 354 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: But I do also will say our discord has been 355 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: having a lot of discussions about this episode. 356 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: It's definitely been like a talking point. I will say 357 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: something I. 358 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: Saw with someone was like, is it I feel like 359 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: it could equally be about that, or it could be 360 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 2: like looking for a forced diad, like he wants both 361 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: of the twins, but power of two. 362 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: It's kind of like the rule of two. 363 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: Which is a rule that the Sith brought in where 364 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: you can only be two Sith lords at any time, 365 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: and the assumption is you will have an apprentice and 366 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: a master, and when the apprentice becomes strong enough, they 367 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: will kill the master and they will get an apprentice. 368 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: And it is like an ongoing you know. 369 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: Thing I'm wondering, like, does he want that because he 370 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: has a master that he hasn't killed and he wants 371 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: his apprentice to help. 372 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: Does he want it because he did kill his Sith master. 373 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 3: Also big question here is his. 374 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: Sith master dath Plagis, because that is the big theory 375 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: right now, is that he was potentially the padawan the 376 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: apprentice as the Sith cause it of Darth Plagios or 377 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: maybe even I saw a darf Bane. You know, I'm 378 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: very interested because I also think one of my favorite 379 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: theories that I've seen in the discord was actually the 380 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: way you kill a Jedi without a weapon, as you 381 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: turn a Jedi and you kill the dream you know, 382 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: So I do wonder if Saul is ultimately going to 383 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: be the one who turns to the dark side, because 384 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: he's already feeling anger, he's already feeling love, he's already feeling. 385 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: You know, hate. 386 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: He almost killed an unarmed person, which Jedi not supposed 387 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: to do. Though I do think if he'd have killed 388 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: Kaimera in that moment, no one would have been mad 389 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: about it, because like he had just killed like ten Jedi. 390 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: But you know, I feel like Saul already has those 391 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: tendencies that we come to think of about people turning 392 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: to the dark side. So I feel like there's a 393 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: lot to kind of this feels like a lot to 394 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: answer into episodes. 395 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: I completely agree. Meanwhile, Venestra has received like fragmentary updates 396 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: from Saul from her padawan. It's like, I don't know, 397 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: Saul hollowed in and it's and. 398 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: It sounds bad. Might be dead. 399 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 4: Should we tell the Jedi Council of this, just like. 400 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 6: I don't know. 401 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: She's like, I'm going to co Farm and it's like, baby. 402 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: You're going myself. How do you know that that's where 403 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: he is because I sent him there. 404 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: And she goes and I get to see her using 405 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: her hype. You know, she doesn't like hyperspace. We get 406 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: that from the books. We get that funny kind of 407 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: little nod there, but she still goes and on the 408 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: planet we see her using something that we often see 409 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: in the Star Wars games, you know, where she can 410 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: kind of sense what's happened in an area, like force memories, 411 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: so you know, she understands, even though her funny, young 412 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: English kind of Jedi she brings along does not understand. 413 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, no, I guess Master Soul must have 414 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 2: just killed them all because who else could have done it? 415 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: And she's like, oh fuck. She's like there's a fucking. 416 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: Sith like this is definitely like and the young guy 417 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: doesn't get it. So she's like we're off, like we're 418 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 2: gonna we gotta go, we gotta find out what's going on. 419 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: And then finally May wakes up on the ship with Saul, 420 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: and Saul is like, finally, like, I know, okay, you 421 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: went through my I message and you saw some weird 422 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: things and I'm gonna tell you. 423 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: Finally, Like, but that's the only way I can do 424 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: that is if I have you like shackled to this table. 425 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: Bad plan Saul and lest we not forget, he turned 426 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: off the transponder after the Jedi were. 427 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: Like, hey, we can find we can find you. 428 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: There's something and he says to her, he says, I've 429 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: thought for so many years like what I would say 430 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: if we met again. 431 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 3: And I'm like, is it good? Is it bad? Are 432 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: you apologizing? 433 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: Because I feel like shackling her to the table, very 434 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: dark side, bro, Like you're not You're not winning any points, 435 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: You're not revealing the truth about what's on your phone, 436 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: Like this is it is looking bad for you? And 437 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: in a great moment, I know everyone loves because it's 438 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: so Star Wars. As the show comes, episode comes to 439 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: an end, Osha puts on the cortosis helmet and begins 440 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: to breathe and yeah, the credits roll. 441 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: Well, okay, lots to talk about here in a in 442 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: a short amount of time, we're. 443 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: Gonna don't notice. 444 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: I have to note that, you know, the power of 445 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: two is the exact verbiage that the Witches used. Yep, 446 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: So what is this Sith connection? 447 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: Is it real? 448 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: Is he even a Sith? Or is he is he 449 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: a kid? 450 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: That was all the young we had earlier hypothesized that 451 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: he might have a connection to that coven somehow. I 452 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: still think that's in play, because as you noted who's 453 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: his master, it doesn't seem as it. And he says 454 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: he had a Jedi master too. So he says he 455 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: had a Jedi master. I think there's a world in which, 456 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, like Luke and Ben Solo, that some Jedi 457 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: master felt the darkness in Kimeer and then was like 458 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: I have to do away with him like that, you know, 459 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: like we saw in the most recent trilogy. 460 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 3: Okay, so after this episode, who is the real villain? 461 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 2: That's the thing Kimer he did seduce me, I will admit, 462 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: but I will say they definitely play here with like 463 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: Kimer doesn't tie Osher up. 464 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: Kaimer offers Osha to use the ship to leave Kim 465 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: is kind. 466 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: Kimer makes her food, whereas Saul's choice with May and 467 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: almost May has killed some Jedi, so I understand. But 468 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: he did just like shackle her to a table and 469 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: then disconnect and let me let. 470 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 4: Me take the let me take the Devil's out. 471 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: Okay. 472 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 4: I think. 473 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: Isolating a person, yes, uh, you know, Osha was given 474 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: freedom of the island, but isolating a person away from 475 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: their friends. 476 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 4: Family is kind of is kind of like grooming one 477 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: O one. 478 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: It's cult one oh one is like step one is like, oh, 479 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: you're free to go anywhere you want in this pretty 480 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: big prison. So and I think that we talked about seduction. 481 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: I think that this is it's kind of encapsuling a 482 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: lot of the conversations that go around with Star Wars. 483 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: It's like, listen, Anakin was a really nice, charming guy 484 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: when he wasn't slaughtering like yeah children, kids, you know, 485 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: and blowing up or you know, standing by as planets 486 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: were blown up. So I think people contain multitudes, and 487 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: part of the way that seduction would work and certainly 488 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: would work if you were Sith is you're not a 489 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: dick all the time. 490 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 4: You're not of crazy. 491 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: The abuser is nice to other people right now. To 492 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: continue the Devil's Advocate. I also think there's a world 493 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: in which if you're saw, you're like, well, this person 494 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: was the was the ally or assistant of someone who 495 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: I just watched kill half a dozen of my friends 496 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: and colleagues and probably killed at least two other Jedi. 497 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: And I think just and was sneaking around like looking 498 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: to stab me in the back while I was driving 499 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: the ship. So I think, like, you know, for everybody's safety, 500 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: maybe it's not that bad idea to to shackle this 501 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: person shack. 502 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: I think shackling to the bed, like the laid down. 503 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: It just has these creepy implications, you know, and we 504 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: can see soul is unraveling, like whatever's going. 505 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: On something there is something deeper, And I think it's quite. 506 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: Clear so that the director of episode three is also 507 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: the director of the next episode, episode seven. I think 508 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: that we're gonna get Oceha using the force inside the 509 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: Cortosi's helmet to see what really happened on Brendoc. 510 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 3: Okay, another question. An important thing. 511 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: We get to see Venestra's really cool lightsaber, which is 512 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: the whip light saber, which actually in the books is 513 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: very controversial because people say that that's a dark side 514 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: weapon and let's be real, Venestra's whip it looks a 515 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: lot like it could have caused the scars on yes, 516 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: Darth Battle's back. 517 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the shape of them are the shape of 518 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: the scar. It's not a stab, neither is it a slash. 519 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: It's just kind of why shaped. 520 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's scar very unusual, so I think we're gonna 521 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: find out what's going on with Vern. 522 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 3: I think that. 523 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: Soul or Vern was If it was Soul was his master, 524 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: that might explain why Soul is so obsessed with his 525 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: Padawans and he has this connection, especially if, like you 526 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: had said, the Jedi High Council occasionally mind wipe Jedi 527 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: after they've done something bad, so he could be in 528 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: a situation where something happened where Vern accidentally, you know, 529 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: struck him in a fight. 530 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 531 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: I had kind of been thinking, Oh, the Jedi is 532 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: going to come out of this looking really bad, which 533 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: they are in some of our discord is not happy 534 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: about it because obviously higher public Jedi also did a 535 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: lot of good stuff. But I am now leaning towards 536 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be more of a more 537 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: of an accident or a misunderstanding or something a misjudged choice, 538 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: rather than like they were sent there to genocide the witches. 539 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: You know, I'm feeling like it's going to be more 540 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: morally gray because the show has definitely been in that space. 541 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree with you on that. I do wonder, 542 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, it seems like the Jedi High Council whatever 543 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: this inciting event from years ago was the Jedi High 544 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Council somehow is not aware of it. This was a 545 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: small this was a smaller thing, Yeah, which makes me wonder, like, 546 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: what are the you know, what are the main things 547 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: that Jedi don't don't do, don't want other Jedi to 548 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: know that they're experiencing. I think attachment is one of them. 549 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: So part of this makes me wonder if this isn't 550 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: some like a family squabble in Yeah, I think you're right, 551 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: a relationship or something that went wrong. 552 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: Also maybe like Vun and Soul when they were young, 553 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: they found this kid who had been abandoned and they 554 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: decided he was for sensitive and they kind of raised 555 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: him as a child and then like let him go 556 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: or or kind of threw him away, as he says. 557 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: I think that could be really interesting. 558 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: And also another thing that we have to talk about 559 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: here that's definitely very sif coded with Kimate is like 560 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: he says, he's very old. He's like, uh, you know, 561 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: I was a really long time ago, and mays and 562 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: I was just like, I've never heard of you, Like 563 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: if you were a Jedi would have heard of you. 564 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: And he's like, well, I was a Jedi, like a 565 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: long time ago. 566 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: How long? Like? Is he one hundred years old? Is 567 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: this some dark side magic keeping him? I'm young. I'm 568 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: very interested to see. 569 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: I truly do feel like this is so much to 570 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: wrap up in two episodes when every episode has been 571 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: like half an hour. But you know what, I'm going 572 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: for the ride I am. I am deeply enjoying the show. 573 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: I am enjoying how much Leslie is playing into how 574 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: sexy Chime he is. Also, we have to shout out 575 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: that Leslie headlined the creative this show. Did an interview 576 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: recently where she did say that this feels specifically targeted 577 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: at us and Jason in particular, but she did say 578 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: that Kimeer and his kind of flowing robes, his bare arms, 579 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: his lack of armor, was inspired by elden Ring heroes 580 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: like let Me Solo. Her like this idea that when 581 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: you summon someone, when you summon someone, the people you 582 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: summon are off the naked because they have to fight 583 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: without any armor, Like they have to prove that they 584 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: can do it with no protection. 585 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: Anna and Leslie was like, those people are fucking crazy, and. 586 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: So that's the inspiration between Chaime, which I just love 587 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: so yeah, very fun show. 588 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: It's things are going on, It's it's complex. 589 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: Well, we will continue our coverage of the Acolyte as 590 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: the series moves towards its conclusion of. 591 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: Next Who's Who. 592 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: Every episode we like to end with a fast moving segment. 593 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: This time around we'll go into Who's Who about our 594 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: favorite Siths and our favorite lightsabers. 595 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: This is not like a deep cut, but my you know, 596 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: favorite weird sith not even that weird, but aside Ventress, oh, which. 597 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: I just think she's one of the best siths ever, 598 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: Like that's just true for sure. Yes, yeah, Well, my 599 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: my favorite weird Sith is is Darf cowed Off, who 600 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: is like a spooky alien for sensitive like duros male. 601 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 2: But the only reason I know about him is because 602 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: he wrote a book called The Beast Area of Dark Kaldoff. 603 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: It's just like a weird encyclopedia of like cryptozoology. So 604 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: he's just like a fucking nerd, like he is just 605 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: like he just loves creatures and he just like wrote 606 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: this book that's just all about like, oh, what's the 607 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: weirdest animals in like the you know what about a. 608 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: War a sith war beast or like a vegan dark 609 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: and I just love a nerd. So he's getting my 610 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: he's getting my love. 611 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 4: A favorite lightsaber. 612 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so I think my favorite lightsaber ever is actually 613 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: Calcastos's lightsaber. 614 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: You can snap an unsnap. I just think that. I 615 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: remember the first time. 616 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 4: It's like a travel light. 617 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: I remember the first time I ever played that game, 618 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: and you learn all these different stances and then you 619 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: learn you can jewel wield it and you can snap 620 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: it apart. I still think that is one of the 621 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: coolest additions to like lightsabercount it and hey, there may 622 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 2: well have been someone in Legends who used it before, 623 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: but that was the first time i'd kind of really 624 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: got on a hang and like realized. 625 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: How useful it would be to kind of hap. 626 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: They're almost like night Wing style nightsticks, but you can 627 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: join them together to be a double bladed laser. 628 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: What's yours? 629 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: Uh? 630 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 4: The Darth Maul just because simple. 631 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: When mal ignited it, it was like that movie is 632 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: not a great movie. 633 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 4: And I remember being. 634 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: In the theater and feeling I had the same. 635 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Feeling, yeah, feeling the crowd, you know, the crowd was like, 636 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: oh no, this isn't that good. But then the final 637 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: fight happens, an incredible duel, and when mall like ignites 638 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: the double sided lightsaber, it was just like like there 639 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: was an electricity through the one of my favorite in 640 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 1: the theater movie experience. 641 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: As soon as you said I kind of got my 642 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: little hairs are up on my arm. Second like you 643 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: think he's done it, and then the second one and 644 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, you're just like a. 645 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 4: Well. 646 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: Coming up on next week's episodes of X ray Vision, 647 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna course continue our coverage of House of the Dragon, 648 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: and we're gonna continue our coverage of the Acolyte. That's 649 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: it for this episode. Thanks for listening. 650 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 3: Farewell listeners. 651 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie 652 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive 653 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer 654 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Lron and 655 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez. 656 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman 657 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 2: and Heidi Our discolled Moderata