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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 2: What is up Straight firefam HiT's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday, March the sixth. We have a great

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Speaker 2: guest today. He's been in the news a lot lately,

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Speaker 2: breaking news on the NFL front and.

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Speaker 3: Also squabbling up with Ian Rappaport of NFL Network. Just kidding,

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Speaker 3: they did not squabble up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked to Jordan Schultz about all that fun

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Speaker 2: stuff at the Combine and all the NFL craziness. So

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Speaker 2: we recorded Wednesday afternoon. Last night, after we recorded, the

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Speaker 2: Chargers had probably the biggest move so far in NFL

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Speaker 2: free agency, releasing five time Pro bowler Joey Bosa. He'd

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Speaker 2: been with the team since he drafted. He was drafted

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. They released him save twenty three million dollars. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Bosa had a really really good run with the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: kind of an end of an era. The longest tenured

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Speaker 2: player on the roster, and you could argue one of

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Speaker 2: the best defensive players the Chargers have had in the

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Speaker 2: franchise history. You know, Junior Seau obviously is right there

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Speaker 2: at the top, but Bosa was the defensive rookie year.

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Speaker 2: He's had many good seasons. He has, of course, had

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Speaker 2: a lot of injuries. Last three seasons, he's only played

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Speaker 2: twenty eight games out of a possible is it fifty

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Speaker 2: one or fifty? I forget when they put the seventeenth

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Speaker 2: game in, but yeah, that's like half the games. And

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Speaker 2: you know, you got a cup bait save a lot

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Speaker 2: of money, and I'm sure that Bosa.

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Speaker 3: Will be landing somewhere very in short order. Probably a

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Speaker 3: good deal. I mean still only was he twenty nine?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's gonna get paid by someone. It's just

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Speaker 2: got to be someone with caproom. Obviously quarterback on the

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Speaker 2: rookie deal makes sense. Do the Bears make a play

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Speaker 2: for him, I don't know. Do the Denver Broncos go

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Speaker 2: after Bosa in the division? There will be interesting to watch.

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Speaker 2: He's obviously a very big name. And yeah, it's a.

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Speaker 3: Tough one for Chargers fans the stomach.

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Speaker 2: Nothing really that interesting on the NBA front last night

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Speaker 2: except oh yeah, Peyton Prichard hit ten threes and Derek

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Speaker 2: White hit nine. Folks, I know we can get excited

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Speaker 2: about the Cavs maybe winning seventy. Okay, see, probably didn't

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Speaker 2: get win to seventy. I'm just telling you go ahead

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Speaker 2: and sleep on the Celtics. This is who they started

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Speaker 2: last night, Sam Hauser, Luke Cornett, Derek White, Jalen Brown

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Speaker 2: and Al Horford. They're just messing around now. It is

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Speaker 2: the Blazers who had been hot, and the Blazers actually

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Speaker 2: put up something of a good fight. Simon's sharp. You

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Speaker 2: know they're they're getting buckets. But when you're sixth man,

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Speaker 2: Peyton Pritchard goes fourteen for twenty twoting ten of sixteen

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Speaker 2: from three he had forty three and ten And I

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Speaker 2: looked this up. Peyton Pritchger's on one of the best

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Speaker 2: contracts in the league. It's right there right with Austin

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, they were quite He hit

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Speaker 2: nine threes, so combined they hit nineteen threes.

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Speaker 3: That's obscene. That is unbelievable, just absurd stuff they played.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Walsh coming off the bench. I don't even know

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Speaker 3: who that is. I gotta click on his bio. He

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Speaker 3: went to Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, I know I know him by face. Now, he's

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Speaker 2: the guy who he very bald, striking looking individual. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: like they're obviously resting some of their studs. No Drew Holliday,

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Speaker 2: No Poor zingis not Tatum and they still put up

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty eight and Derek White and Peyton

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Speaker 2: Pritchard probably there what fifth and six best players I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't even know combined for eighty four points.

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Speaker 2: Like this Celtics team is loaded, and obviously that's why

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Speaker 2: I'm picking them to win the title. Anyways, without further ado,

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Speaker 2: let's get to our guest NFL insider for Fox Sports,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Schultz.

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Speaker 1: Jason One likes to think he knows everything when it

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Speaker 1: comes to sports.

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Speaker 3: I know what sports Fance wants, but for.

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Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 4: guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A guy who's

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Speaker 2: really blown up on the scene this last year in change.

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Speaker 2: He is an NFL insider. It's weird, you guys have

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Speaker 2: heard the Warren Buffett quote when everybody be aggressive, when

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Speaker 2: or something along those lines. Well, everybody's running away from

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Speaker 2: being a sports insider in the media. Now Jordan Schultz

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Speaker 3: Jordan, how you doing man.

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Speaker 4: Today, Matt, I'll be doing better about shooping with you

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Speaker 4: in Sokow. But other than that, you know, pretty smooth,

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Speaker 2: I met Jordan for the first time about, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: a year ago, once he started coming on the herd

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Speaker 2: and he knew I liked hoops, and I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: he played a hoops at a high leve Let's start there.

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Speaker 2: So you were, what a dominant high school player and

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Speaker 2: then you got you what D two?

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Speaker 4: I had a Yeah, I had a good high school career,

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Speaker 4: really good high school career in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Would you go, like, did you play with those twins

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Speaker 2: a lot in a rod?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Now they were a year or two older.

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Speaker 4: I played against him a lot. But the Seattle basketball

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Speaker 4: And so I grew up playing with Brandon from the

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Speaker 5: On of like what an NBA basketball player is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we had Martell Webster in the gym, Marvin Williams,

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Speaker 5: And then after that Jmack, I ended up transferring close

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Speaker 4: I went to Occidental College, which was probably more where

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Speaker 4: just a really good Division III school. And but my

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Speaker 4: But you know, because Romart was always around. He he

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Speaker 5: And I couldn't stomach that. And so yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: I I was you know, I was slow, I wasn't athletic.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't jump. I had the lowest vertical leap in

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Speaker 4: the history of Seattle. You basketball, Wow, I couldn't jump.

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Speaker 3: Wait, what's your NBA cump? Were you like a Jason Capono?

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Speaker 5: And but I was just I was just so slow.

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Speaker 4: because I'm like, heavy feet is the death of an athlete?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you just don't want to have it. And that

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Speaker 3: So what's the saying, is it slow feet, don't eat?

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Speaker 3: Is that what I mean?

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Speaker 4: And obviously I hadn't either, And so I'd say my

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Speaker 5: I like to think that I had like the worst

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Speaker 3: But you know who knows, Yeah, no, no, that that's fun.

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Speaker 2: So but I guess my thing is, you know, obviously

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Speaker 5: Was always I always did. Man, it was like the

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Speaker 4: remember asking how did you know or why, and they said,

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Speaker 4: was obsessed with devouring The New York Times Sports section

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Speaker 5: Sports like that's all you have wanted to do. You

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Speaker 4: If I had a ball, I mean I was way

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Speaker 4: my dad bought the Sonics and so I.

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Speaker 3: Was that was it the end of the Gary Payton

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Speaker 3: So all this NBA, I'm surprised you went the NFL

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Speaker 2: So you go into NFL and listen obviously, and I

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Speaker 4: As I came of age, Starbucks also came of age.

441
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 5: You know, if you think about the company going public.

442
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 4: In the early nineties and by the late ninety early

443
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 4: two thousands, when I'm in high school or middle school,

444
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 4: like that's so the company and me are simultaneously growing.

445
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 4: Like it was a weird. It's kind of a hard,

446
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 4: hard thing to digest as a kid, and I remember thinking, like,

447
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: you know, does does this person want something from me?

448
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 5: Is that why they're being my friend?

449
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 4: Like that was really on my mind, and my parents

450
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 4: were really adamant about making genuine friends and making sure

451
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 4: I was aware of what people's ulterior motives were going

452
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 4: to be, especially as I got older. And so I

453
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 4: think for me to answer your question, I think in

454
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 4: many ways it helped because there was some name recognition,

455
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 4: and then I think in some ways it did hurt

456
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Speaker 4: in terms of there were certain teams, there were certain

457
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 4: agents that just said I don't want to deal with

458
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 4: you and just made, you know, a blanket statement or

459
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 4: a should say a blanket not observation, but they just assumed, Okay,

460
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 4: this guy comes from that, I don't want to deal

461
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Speaker 4: with that, that's not my type of person, to which

462
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 4: I completely respected. And ironically, some of those, maybe half

463
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 4: half of those people I've now developed relationships with because

464
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 4: I was persistent, and there was a fine line between

465
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Speaker 4: being persistent and respectful, but I was, I think respectfully

466
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 4: persistent to keep trying, and then obviously, like you do

467
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 4: want the word of mouth, like this guy. Maybe you

468
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 4: haven't a relationship with an agent at a certain agency

469
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 4: and you're trying to get someone that he works with

470
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Speaker 4: and that person's not interested.

471
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Speaker 5: But then you have the word of mouth, Hey, this

472
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 5: guy's okay. So by and large, I do feel like

473
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 5: it probably helped.

474
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Speaker 4: And I'm also really aware of that because I've been

475
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Speaker 4: I've tried so hard to navigate my own you know,

476
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 4: wanting to A big reason why we moved to New

477
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: York was because I wanted to just get out of

478
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 4: the Seattle bubble. It's it's my name has way too

479
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 4: much name recognition there. It's not a big city, and

480
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Speaker 4: you know, Schultz and Starbucks like goes a long way,

481
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Speaker 4: and I just felt like I needed to get out

482
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Speaker 4: of that. And that's a big reason why we came

483
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Speaker 4: to New York. And I think it's it's by and

484
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 4: large been the right decision. Although I've always said at

485
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Speaker 4: some point like I would want to go back to

486
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Speaker 4: the West Coast and live there, but that's where we're at.

487
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Speaker 5: And I was just finished by saying that.

488
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Speaker 4: You know, I never wanted people to just I didn't

489
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Speaker 4: want people to know where I came from and to

490
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Speaker 4: know how I grew up.

491
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Speaker 5: And so at some point there.

492
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Speaker 4: Was this level of being ashamed, and I think that

493
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Speaker 4: was really unhealthy for me.

494
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Speaker 5: And I would say that was more like in my

495
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Speaker 5: late twenties early thirties.

496
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Speaker 4: I just turned thirty nine, and at some point over

497
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Speaker 4: the last few years, I think I've been able to

498
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Speaker 4: navigate past it.

499
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Speaker 5: But that was something that I struggled with.

500
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Speaker 2: Wow, the honesty there, man, that's that's pretty cool. Let's

501
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: we all struggle with this stuff. I'm sure some people

502
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: were like, dude, you didn't want to be the heir

503
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Speaker 2: to Starbucks.

504
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: Out of your mind.

505
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Speaker 4: If the combine, like you go to Senior Ball or

506
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, it always comes.

507
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: Up yeah, and they're like, wait, you want to chase

508
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: Max Crosby's signings. Yeah, over just like rule over this

509
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: massive billion dollar empire.

510
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Speaker 4: Especially with people that aren't pretty to and then they

511
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 4: find out and that's all. Oftentimes their first question, or

512
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 4: one of their first questions is, why wouldn't you just

513
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 4: pursue the you know.

514
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 5: The family business, and I think, you know.

515
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Speaker 4: I listen, like I've had this conversation many times with

516
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 4: my parents, and especially my dad. Like in theory, I'm

517
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: sure he would have loved to have had his son

518
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Speaker 4: take over, and I think the time would have been now,

519
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 4: like mid thirties, late thirties as he retired.

520
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Speaker 5: But I also think he knows that he would have

521
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 5: shown a side of him to not only me, but

522
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Speaker 5: to my sister as well, was three.

523
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 4: And a half years younger, that we would have seen

524
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: a side of him that we didn't really see growing yet.

525
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 5: We saw an intensity.

526
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 4: But I think being in that world with him would

527
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: have been would not have been particularly healthy for us,

528
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: or for him or for our relationship.

529
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Speaker 5: And that is something that I'm grateful not to have.

530
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 4: Experience because I want, I always wanted my parents just

531
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Speaker 4: to be that.

532
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Speaker 2: You know, all right, let's bust through a couple of

533
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: players in the combine real quick.

534
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Speaker 3: So the Shdeur Sanders stuff.

535
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: Yes, man, I don't know how many mock drafts you

536
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 2: look at, but I saw somebody had him at twenty one,

537
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 2: somebody had him at twenty nine. I can't tell if

538
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: this is some kind of smear campaign or what what

539
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: are you genuinely hearing from people you trust in respect

540
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: about to Shador Sanders interviews with the combine.

541
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Speaker 4: I think depending on which team you asked, you still

542
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 4: get a fair amount of clubs that will flip flop

543
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 4: on who they would prefer. But at this point it

544
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: does feel like pretty I would say there's a strong

545
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: connotation coming out in Indianapolis last week that Camboard is

546
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: rated ahead.

547
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 5: Of Shore Sanders.

548
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: Yeah. But what I don't like and what's frustrating is

549
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 4: you mentioned there's been some of this sort of spear

550
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: campaign with Shure, and that's hard because I'm not in

551
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: those interviews. I'm not in those mirrors. But what I

552
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 4: have been told him is that he came across as affable, intelligent,

553
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 4: and someone that really understands like pro football. He's been

554
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 4: immersed in it his whole life. And in terms of

555
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 4: like your prototypical dropback passer, he's the most accurate guy

556
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: in the draft.

557
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 5: He's not the athlete of a cam Ward. I don't

558
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 5: think he has the same level of arm strength.

559
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: But he can make throws all the throws, and you know,

560
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: one of the things that I think came out of

561
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 4: the combine was that Shore Sanders doesn't care about what

562
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 4: teams think of him. And I don't know if that's

563
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 4: true or not, but I feel like I was there

564
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 4: and talking to people that whole week, and I feel

565
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 4: like I would have heard that and I just didn't

566
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 4: hear it.

567
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 5: So that's where I'm at.

568
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 4: I think a lot of time and a lot of

569
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: things can happen from now into the draft, but I don't.

570
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 5: I don't see him slipping into the twenties.

571
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: That's just no way, no shot. But that was only

572
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 3: like the second biggest story of the combine.

573
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: Have you been asked by everybody, including family and friends

574
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: about the incident with Rapaport at a Starbucks or doctor?

575
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: I have.

576
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 4: I mean everybody's asked me. I know, you text me

577
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: when it happened. Like Fox, there was friends at Fox, uh,

578
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: longtime family friends, kids like guys I grew up with.

579
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 4: I mean, every everybody was asking.

580
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: And that's fines.

581
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 5: I would love to I would love to just move

582
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 5: past it like that. Yes, that's all I want to do.

583
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 4: And you know the timing now with free agency is

584
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 4: like I'm hoping that with free agency it'll be productive

585
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 4: and you know, we can we can move past it.

586
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 5: But yes, like my phone, especially those three days was

587
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 5: was it was a lot.

588
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I know Rapaport, he's I I find him

589
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: to be a nice guy. I can I can imagine

590
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: that it gets a little intense on the reporting front. Uh,

591
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: But what did you make of people making jokes about it,

592
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 2: like Adam Schefter chiming hand.

593
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: Well, I always had a great relationship with Adam, you know,

594
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 4: really good, dating way back to to my pre ESPN days,

595
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 4: pre NFL days. I thought that was hilarious. I ran

596
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: into a few minutes after. I thought it was a

597
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 4: funny thing to do, and because he took the photo

598
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: and then he posted it head on a swivel, and

599
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: I ran into him, like I don't know. An hour

600
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: later and I was texting and I just said, you know,

601
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: And so when I ran into him, I just I said,

602
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 4: you know, of.

603
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 5: Course, like you would because because Adam, Adam is funny.

604
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 5: He's dried, but he's funny.

605
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 4: And it was like it definitely like took up a

606
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: lot of the space in Indianapolis, and that I didn't

607
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: necessarily dissipate that.

608
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: But her teams chiming in.

609
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: Some teams asked about it, uh and some a just asked,

610
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 4: and I just tried to downplay it as much as possible.

611
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 5: I just try to be honest, like I thought, I

612
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 5: got one on proportion. That's really awesome.

613
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: Not a huge deal, right, right, right, But it is competitive,

614
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: like I think, you know, newsbreaking regardless of space. You know,

615
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 4: basketball obviously, like do you remember always like the woes

616
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: and champs back and forth?

617
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 5: Obviously the NFL.

618
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: I don't know how much baseball, but I would imagine

619
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: like even the political landscape, political reporting, uh is pretty competitive.

620
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: So oh hell yeah it is.

621
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: It is a competitive landscape with with without question.

622
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

623
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,639
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624
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,840
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625
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:29,640
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626
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: Let's go through a couple players real quick. To wrap

627
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: up here, DK Metcalf demands a trade. A does he

628
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: get the trade?

629
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: And B is it anyone other than the Chargers?

630
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: So he requested a trade, and I don't I don't

631
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: know if Seattle's going to move him or not, because

632
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: the asking price is going to be significant, as it

633
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: should be a guy, but.

634
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: Like a third round pick, conditional second.

635
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 5: More, I big more. I think I think more than

636
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 5: a third. I haven't. I haven't gone there yet, but

637
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 5: that that feels light to me.

638
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: If you think about DK Metcalf, you know, twenty seven

639
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: years old, has been a pro bowler, and but you

640
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: gotta pay it. Yeah, exactly, So that's I was just

641
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: gonna say, whoever trades for him, if a trade happens,

642
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: you also then have to extend him because he only

643
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: has one more year left on his deal. And so

644
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: you know, that's always the hard part. It's not only

645
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: finding the capital to get the asset, but then go

646
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: out and pay the guy. And for someone like DK

647
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: in that premium position, you're gonna have to pay a lot.

648
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: The Chargers, I know, have been very aggressive or reported

649
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: this about an hour ago, going back to over the

650
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: last year or so, they know they need a number

651
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: one ride receiver. That has been their priority. Now they

652
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: have a great young guy, a Lad mccockey who's been

653
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: the slot. But I think the one thing that Justin

654
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: Herbert hasn't had is that Bona fide X receiver, and

655
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: that's exactly.

656
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 5: What DK is.

657
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: Interesting.

658
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: Lockett another Seattle guy, he gets released, I think he's

659
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: got huge value as a culture guy, locker room guy,

660
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: slot receiver.

661
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: Who's gonna give you fifty catches?

662
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Speaker 2: Oh hesbab be a couple of clutch third day the

663
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Speaker 2: postseason where any guesses where he might land?

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Speaker 5: I think with with with Tyler, you know, I'll put

665
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Speaker 5: it this You mentioned like locker room guy.

666
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: There's no doubt that if you think about Seattle released

667
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: several players yesterday and then they gave Tyler Lockett basically

668
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: his own day today. They announced it, and he announced

669
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Speaker 4: it by himself. That's because he's been an icon. He's

670
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: been there about a decade. He's been one of the

671
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Speaker 4: most consistent guys in the community, in the locker room.

672
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Speaker 4: He has a real estate business that he has beloved

673
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Speaker 4: in Seattle. There will be five, six, seven teams that

674
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Speaker 4: want to sign Tyler Lockett. You know, I don't necessarily

675
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Speaker 4: see the Chargers being a fit because they don't need

676
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Speaker 4: a slot.

677
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Speaker 5: But ye New England.

678
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Speaker 4: You know New England is I mentioned the Chargers in

679
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: the number one priorities receiver. New England's number one priority

680
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: is receiver as well as left tackle. You know there

681
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 4: will be teams, especially playoff clubs, that are looking for

682
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Speaker 4: that consistent third down guy that's never going to complain

683
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Speaker 4: about targets, that's gonna make plays.

684
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Speaker 5: Not gonna have drops.

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Speaker 4: You know, everyone loves Tyler in Seattle, not just in

686
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Speaker 4: the building, but everyone loves Tyler within that city.

687
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Speaker 5: So he will have, to your point, a real market.

688
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means financially, but.

689
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Speaker 4: He'll have his pick of the litter, and I have

690
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: no doubt that he will be a first wave guy

691
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Speaker 4: in terms of free agent wide receivers.

692
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Speaker 2: Week one, twenty twenty five season, Aaron Rodgers is under

693
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Speaker 2: center four. I mean, I don't buy the Giant stuff

694
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 2: as much anymore.

695
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry the Giant.

696
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what's interesting. I did Max Crosby's

697
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: pod two nights ago.

698
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Speaker 5: Okay, he said, Hey, I'd love to have Aaron in

699
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: the Silver and Blacks. Tell me that. I'm great. I

700
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 5: feel like that could work.

701
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's a better option than Sam Darnald,

702
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: but if let's say they go after Sam Donald doesn't

703
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: work out, wouldn't Aaron Rodgers be at least like a

704
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 4: decent bridge for.

705
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Speaker 3: Them, a bridge to wear hell. I mean, I can't

706
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Speaker 3: get an idea.

707
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Speaker 5: See, we have to preface it by saying you're a

708
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 5: Jet fan. So in the last two years, not fun.

709
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 5: Not fun.

710
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Speaker 2: Let's see who else is out. Oh the Dak got

711
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: his contract, Rework not a huge shock.

712
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

713
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Speaker 3: Does this mean they're gonna they're gonna pay Michael Parson's big.

714
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 5: Time or you No, No, Mike is gonna get his

715
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 5: money this offseason.

716
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Speaker 4: Obviously you saw Crosby's deal, and that's what happens, especially

717
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: with the cap going up. You know, Crosby becomes the

718
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: highest pay non quarterback ever. Park probably is the next

719
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: highest paid non quarterback ever. They obviously did CD, they

720
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: did Dak. They just paid Osa. So Dallas is in

721
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: a position where I do wonder how aggressive they'll be

722
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Speaker 4: in free agency because obviously they had three straight twelve

723
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Speaker 4: when seasons go to the playoffs and last year was

724
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Speaker 4: was a debacle.

725
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Speaker 5: But I don't see a.

726
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: Scenario where Dallas is like a huge freedom spender because

727
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: they never have been. But I do wonder if they'll be,

728
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: you know, moderately aggressive teams in terms of spending money.

729
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of clubs out there with

730
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: cap I mean Cincinnati right now has seven million in cap.

731
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: Nobody has more cap than New England. Washington has a

732
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: lot of space. Obviously they just got Deebo. But there

733
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Speaker 4: you I expect this to be in a very active

734
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Speaker 4: freeency class, even if it's not as strong a class

735
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Speaker 4: as we've had the last two.

736
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Speaker 5: Or three years.

737
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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams does he go back to the Raiders, back

738
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Speaker 2: to the Packers.

739
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Speaker 3: I saw some dumb gambling on when he could Backers.

740
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Speaker 3: I saw the Packers were the favor Right, that's not happening.

741
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 5: No, I don't see that.

742
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: I would imagine he wants to go back West, playing

743
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: hot weather, playing warm weather, play with the quarterback that

744
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: he's comfortable familiar with.

745
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Speaker 3: Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna so I was gonna say, like,

747
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: thinking about the Chargers, obviously he doesn't know Herbert, But again,

748
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: like you're talking about.

749
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Speaker 5: A guy that is the best or one of the

750
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 5: best release dudes in the league.

751
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Speaker 4: And even if DeVante is not running four three four four,

752
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: he was never a speed guy. He's always been a

753
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: really really smart, crafty guy. He's a prenial All Pro

754
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: caliber player. And I asked a scout at the combine

755
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Speaker 4: we're going through receivers. And I just said, you know,

756
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: assuming demonte gets cut, which he now has, like, what's

757
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: his value?

758
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 5: And he said, like, DeVante Adams is still a number

759
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Speaker 5: one wide receiver.

760
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: It's just that you have to know you don't want

761
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: to ask him to do crazy like shit anymore. He's

762
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Speaker 4: not going to be necessarily like one hundred and ten

763
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 4: catch guy, but no ninety catches, one hundred catches, plays

764
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 4: a lot of snaps. He's in great shape, he's never

765
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 4: out of shape, high character like That's so when I

766
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: think about that, I think Demante Adams has to go.

767
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Speaker 5: To a winner. The Chargers to me, makes a lot

768
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Speaker 5: of sense.

769
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Speaker 4: But I could also see a lot of other teams

770
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Speaker 4: saying demonte Adams, that's what we need.

771
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Speaker 5: That's where a player away.

772
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Speaker 4: I don't see him going thistily back to the Raiders

773
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Speaker 4: just because they're not a player.

774
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Speaker 5: And obviously he didn't go particularly well there.

775
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Speaker 3: Last player Kirk Cousins, well, I was gonna let me

776
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Speaker 3: just last three quarterbacks. Justin fields, do we think staying

777
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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh.

778
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Speaker 4: I think I could easily see Field staying. I'm thinking

779
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: like one year, ten million. They really liked him. You know,

780
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 4: Tomlin champion Russ. It went well for a while, I thought,

781
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 4: and it was told to me that if he continues

782
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: to play at this level US they could give him

783
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: like some kind of a two year extension and really

784
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 4: make him the face or one of the face of

785
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: the offense.

786
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 5: Next couple of years. Didn't work out. I still think

787
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 5: there's a real, a real scenario, a really.

788
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: Decent shot, a good shot that fields ends up back

789
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh one year, Timballion Bucks, they were four and one,

790
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 4: I believe when they benched him.

791
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 5: Obviously we know how things went, but they like him there.

792
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: Tomlin likes him.

793
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: So what does that mean for Russell Wilson.

794
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson will have a market, But I think, yeah,

795
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 4: I think just like Aaron Rodgers, though it's like it's

796
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: a veteran market.

797
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 5: It's a guy who has not who's not the same

798
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 5: player he was five years ago.

799
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 4: But still like there was a point last year when

800
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 4: Russ was playing good ball, he'll have a market. And

801
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: if you think about it, there are over sixty quarterbacks

802
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: Jamack that played last season. Sixty guys, So even if

803
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: you're a backup, you're gonna have to play.

804
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rust doesn't want to be a backup, I know,

805
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: but I'm just.

806
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: Saying, like, there's there's five six spots where you could

807
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: go and fight for a starter job. You know, the

808
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: Jets in me uh, you know, even last year he

809
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: visited the Giants, So you know there's enough teams that

810
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: would be interested. And this is not one of the

811
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: This is not last year's quarterback class where you had

812
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: you know, Caleb and May and Jayden, Pennix McCarthy.

813
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 5: This is not that class.

814
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: But we could wrap up with Kirk Cousins, Jordan. Where

815
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 3: is Kirk Cousins gonna play next year? The backup in Atlanta?

816
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: No, it's not super easy to release him, but I

817
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: still believe he will be released. That's a tougher one

818
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: for me because the way things ended last year were

819
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 4: so bad and and he was so inempt and when

820
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: you have the Achilles, as we saw with Rogers, it's

821
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 4: gonna take you a long time. And you know, Kirk

822
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 4: had a decent strench last year, but the way things ended,

823
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: I don't think.

824
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 5: His is as easy.

825
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 4: It's not to say he won't find a home, because

826
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 4: he will, but I feel like with Cousins to me.

827
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 5: I look at Russ even a Rogers.

828
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, who's much younger twenty seven, Those guys, to

829
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: me are gonna have an easier time finding a home

830
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 4: with Kirk.

831
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: I do believe he'll be released. I do believe he'll find.

832
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: A home, but I think it's gonna be a little

833
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: bit tougher for him considering how things went last month

834
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 4: of the year.

835
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Speaker 2: Definitely all right, Jordan Schultz, Fox Sports NFL Insider. I

836
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: kept you longer than I I know you juggling multiple

837
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: cell phones, but it's good to get to know you.

838
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: And obviously we got a hoop at some point. Just

839
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: got to make sure you're in hoop shape. I don't

840
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: need you getting injured. I don't need that on my head.

841
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 4: I've had, so just just put me in the corner,

842
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 4: put me on top of the key, and set some screens.

843
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 5: Hit a couple of threes, hit some threes. But that's

844
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: the thing.

845
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: I know how to guard those guys. You just hug

846
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: them up, don't let them get the bullet.

847
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair, And I know you had RJ You've

848
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: had to do, but I am extremely crafty. What I

849
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: lack and what speed I have extremely quick release, high release,

850
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 4: oh quick trigger. You know I have a lot of

851
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 4: this bullshit. Set you up to shoot a three. I've

852
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 4: never used to call me the pedestrian because I never drove.

853
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: I think I think they used to call stephen a.

854
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 5: That I heard as well. I never drove.

855
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 4: Everything is facilitated on the three, so it's probably easier

856
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 4: to guard me now, yes, but you know I can still,

857
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: I can still.

858
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: Make a few. Yeah.

859
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome, dude, I love yeah, I love whops. So

860
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: all right, Jordan, I have a good one mantled season.

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Speaker 5: My pleasure brother. Thank you,