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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, November five. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: My name is J. P. Shadrick. Jeff Logoman coming up shortly.

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Speaker 1: We've got a busy show for you today. It's week nine.

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Speaker 1: The jackson the Houston Texans meet up this Sunday at

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Speaker 1: t I A Bank feeble preview the matchup this week

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Speaker 1: with the division rivals. Second meeting between the team's Houston

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Speaker 1: got it done down in Houston back in week five.

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Speaker 1: Jake Luton, time rookie quarterback, will start this week for

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Will get Logs take on him the

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Speaker 1: defense against the Shawn Watson. That's always the storyline. How

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Speaker 1: do you contain him and don't let him run around

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Speaker 1: all day long? If he gets in trouble in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: he has the ability to do that. There are COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen concerns starting today in Houston. Three linebackers will not

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Speaker 1: be available for the game this week due to contact tracing.

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Speaker 1: A couple of the one positive and to contact tracings

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Speaker 1: will delve into that Tony Boselli joins us support thirty

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Speaker 1: Today and the Doug Moron Show at five o'clock. We'll

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Speaker 1: hear from the head coach. We hear from Jeff Flagaman

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Speaker 1: now who joins us on. The program is always on

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Speaker 1: Thursday afternoons. And here we go logs, fresh off the by.

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Speaker 1: Are you rested, relaxed and ready for the stretcher run? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm ready to go. The buy is always good.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I had a lot of productive days, i

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Speaker 1: will say, during the by and kept up with all

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Speaker 1: the sporting world and all the events with the NFL,

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Speaker 1: so uh and actually got to relax and watch a

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Speaker 1: little football just as kind of a a fan. And

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Speaker 1: it's kind of nice sometimes to do that, There's no

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Speaker 1: doubt about that. In joy those times while you get it.

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Speaker 1: But now the stretch run is here, and the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are starting the stretch run with a new quarterback. Governer

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Speaker 1: Minshew has a thumb injury, so they're going with Jake Luton,

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Speaker 1: the rookie six round raft pick out of Oregon State.

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Speaker 1: He'll make his first career NFL appearance of any kind

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Speaker 1: this Sunday against the Houston Texans Doug Marone earlier this

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Speaker 1: week when asked about Luton and what do you expect

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Speaker 1: you know, you look early on of of you know,

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Speaker 1: probably quite different than most college programs. You know, on

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Speaker 1: And you know it is is bourbage. There's a there's

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Speaker 1: a lot on on that plate, you know, for those

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Speaker 1: would say I was, I was impressed with, you know,

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Speaker 1: outside of whatever physical ability. You know what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that you guys, we all can see you know from

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Speaker 1: his college film is uh, you know, his ability to

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Speaker 1: pick it up alright, picking it up one thing, logs,

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Speaker 1: of course, that's that's fine and dandy, knowing the system.

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Speaker 1: But when the lights come on and you walk out

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Speaker 1: on the field on Sunday, you'll you'll have J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt and the Texans defense on the other side. What

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Speaker 1: are your first expectations, I guess for Luton this week,

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Speaker 1: I mean expectations for most rookies. I mean, not a

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Speaker 1: Gruden had a comment this week and just a couple

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Speaker 1: be able to play this later on or not, but

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Speaker 1: he said, quote, Jake hasn't called a play our play,

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Speaker 1: one of our plays in our huddle since training camp.

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Speaker 1: Think about that for a minute. Okay, so the last

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Speaker 1: time he was in a huddle calling a Jaguars offensive

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Speaker 1: it's not like he was in the huddle and he's

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Speaker 1: But let me say this, My expectations of his physical

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Speaker 1: that way because he impressed me that much JP and

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Speaker 1: times he showed the things that you want in a

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Speaker 1: got an NFL caliber arm. He can fit it in

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Speaker 1: So my expectations JP again aren't high. But I also

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Speaker 1: think and I agree with Doug Brone and that when

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Speaker 1: Doug Brown said his ceiling is high and that's what

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Speaker 1: he believes, I think the ceiling is high too. But

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Speaker 1: the thing that you just don't know about is the

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Speaker 1: mental makeup JP. When the live bullets start flying and J. J.

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Speaker 1: gonna do? Right? It's a different world when when that

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Speaker 1: and I'll be curious to see it on Sunday is

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Speaker 1: how different will the offense be called with Luton? Will

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Speaker 1: they open it up a little bit with his ability

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Speaker 1: what seven games under his belt? Yes, and this is

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Speaker 1: seven games under j Gruden's offense to the playbook, wasn't

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Speaker 1: six inches thick for Gardner Minshew Now als, Okay, Jake

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Speaker 1: Luton's coming in, we're gonna just you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: Weren't they kind of trying to be conservative play calling

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Speaker 1: weren't they talking about that going all the way back

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Speaker 1: I mean, so it's not like you're gonna do something

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Speaker 1: a different skill set with Jake Luton. Your offense is

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Speaker 1: your offense. You just need to find a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: Moron did not mince any work when he was asked

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Speaker 1: a question about well Gardner Minshew get his job back,

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Speaker 1: he said, look, if Jake Luton comes out there and

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Speaker 1: But I'm getting that it was something of this nature

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Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew because I remember when I had it

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Speaker 1: back on the field. That's fine. He's got nine games

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Speaker 1: left this year to really get going. Chase on how's

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Speaker 1: doing everything they can. But at some point, the rubbers

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Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback a little more often. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and I'm all all for it, And uh, they're not

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago, against the Chargers. The only guy that

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Speaker 1: was having wins as a pass rusher was Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: and Josh wasn't completely healthy. I mean it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: Josh was just crushing guys. I mean it was he

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Speaker 1: was doing a pretty good job, not as good as

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen can do, and nobody else is winning. And

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Speaker 1: that's hard. I mean, it's very hard when it's a

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Speaker 1: one man band, asked Joe. He can tell you it's

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Speaker 1: hard to play all the instruments by yourself at a

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Speaker 1: live concert. But caleban chas On has got to find

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Speaker 1: a way to have what I call the hands and

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Speaker 1: the hips kind of married together. And what does he have?

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Speaker 1: One sack on the year? Is that right? I think

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Speaker 1: it's one sack on. Yeah, it's one sack. But here's

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Speaker 1: the reality. The one sack that he got, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say it was anything that he did as

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Speaker 1: a great pass rusher to be able to get that sack.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of one of those sacks that every now

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Speaker 1: and again you'd like to get. You fall into him

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Speaker 1: and but his hips and his and his arms or

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Speaker 1: hands aren't working together. And that's the one thing I

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Speaker 1: think that concerns me. You know, when I when I

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Speaker 1: watched him in training camp, I thought, really thought and

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Speaker 1: was very impressed with his hands because he was using

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Speaker 1: his hands, and a lot of young players don't learn

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Speaker 1: to use their hands. They just try to run around

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Speaker 1: guys and be faster than another guy or be stronger

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Speaker 1: than another guy. But they soon find out at the

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Speaker 1: National Football League level, you actually have to have a plan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even the great Reggie White, who was just

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Speaker 1: so dominant physically, actually had a plan. Reggie's plan was

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Speaker 1: he was gonna take you down the middle and run

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Speaker 1: you over. And then the next plan was is that

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Speaker 1: once you started sitting heavy, he was gonna get you

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Speaker 1: to sit heavy and then give you a little juke

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Speaker 1: and then give you a power rip to the outside.

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Speaker 1: And then once you started to sit on the power

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Speaker 1: rip on the outside, if that didn't work, he was

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Speaker 1: gonna hump your butt about six yards up the field

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Speaker 1: because he was so strong. So even Reggie White had

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Speaker 1: a great plan. Lawrence Taylor had a great plan. If

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Speaker 1: you got a great get off, he was chopping and

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Speaker 1: ripping to get to the outside, and if he was

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Speaker 1: a little bit laid off the ball, he would chop

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Speaker 1: thinking that they're letting the offensive lineman know that I'm

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Speaker 1: going outside. But Laurence Taylor would chop down and then

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Speaker 1: immediately spend to the inside. So even the great pass rushers,

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Speaker 1: they weren't just like these dominant, physically gifted pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: You actually have to learn technique and setting guys up.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what Caleban chaded on is figuring

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Speaker 1: out right now. And then in college it was a

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Speaker 1: little bit easier. And now you have to have your

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Speaker 1: hands and your hips working together, but then you also

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Speaker 1: have to have your mind working with your hands and

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Speaker 1: your hips, so you can have a plan when you

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Speaker 1: rush the pastor and it's tough. He's having a tough time, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know at some point um it'll start to click.

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Speaker 1: I think for those guys. How about the interior play

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Speaker 1: last time out. Davon Hamilton's the rookie out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Avery Jones was not there or so he kind of

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Speaker 1: stepped into that role in the interior and it was

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Speaker 1: certainly the best game he's had so far as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: and that was a really bright spot, and in a

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Speaker 1: in a year where there aren't many bright spots on defense.

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Speaker 1: I think that was a very good development for this organization. Well,

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Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton's the third round pick, and so your expectation

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Speaker 1: with a third round pick is that he's a starter,

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Speaker 1: and it should be um as a third round pick,

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Speaker 1: and he's a big dude, big dude. This past game,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was his best game, and I thought

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Speaker 1: he did a really good job, and and I expected

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Speaker 1: him to do better this past game. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I expected him to do better was that Poenie, who

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Speaker 1: is the starting center for the Chargers, who took over

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Speaker 1: for the uh the center Pouncy who was injured. And

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Speaker 1: Phoenie had been a guard in the past. But Phoenie's

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Speaker 1: not a like he's. He's a little straight legged, he's

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Speaker 1: not super strong, he doesn't play real load to the ground,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't play with a lot of leverage. So I

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Speaker 1: expected somebody who's big and strong like Devon Hamilton's to

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Speaker 1: play well against Feenie, and he did, and it was

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Speaker 1: good to see. And and even if it's against the

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Speaker 1: guy that's not super physical or super strong, it's good

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Speaker 1: to see because when you go against the guy you

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Speaker 1: think you should play well against, you gotta play well

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Speaker 1: against him, and he did that, so so that's good.

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Speaker 1: And I hope it's something that he can build off of.

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Speaker 1: And uh, and also in the meantime to continue to

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Speaker 1: get better and anticipate. And I was talking to somebody

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Speaker 1: about this earlier in the week. JP, you know, you

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Speaker 1: go back, because you know I'm talking about how big

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Speaker 1: and strong Devon Hamilton's is. You go back in the

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Speaker 1: early days of Jaguar's history, and and John Jerkovic, who

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Speaker 1: was a defensive tackle, and he and Joe Fortunato and JP.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever had a chance to

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Speaker 1: meet him, maybe if he came back for alumni day

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Speaker 1: or something that Joe remembers him. He might have had

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Speaker 1: the the worst body in the National Football League. I

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Speaker 1: mean literally, the guy didn't look like he played football.

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Speaker 1: The guy didn't look like he ever played football. He

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Speaker 1: might have played a little, you know, high school ball,

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Speaker 1: maybe a little called small college ball, because he was

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Speaker 1: just kind of around around guy. And UH. And if

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Speaker 1: he told you at the bar and you never knew

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Speaker 1: who he was and just met him, he tells you

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Speaker 1: he's an NFL player, You're like, you're so full of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean that would be your reaction, but he was.

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Speaker 1: He was a good player, and he was a good

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Speaker 1: player doing large part because he could anticipate blocks. He

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Speaker 1: could anticipate if I'm playing a shade on a nose

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Speaker 1: one way, that guard's coming down and I'm getting a

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Speaker 1: double team, I can I can dig my left hip

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Speaker 1: or my right hip, depend on which side of the

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Speaker 1: senator that I'm on down and hold the point and

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Speaker 1: anticipate where that pressure is coming from. Or if the

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Speaker 1: guards coming down centers pulling around, I can immediately play

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Speaker 1: over here to the guard and now I'm fighting against

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Speaker 1: pressure and and for a large part of the early

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Speaker 1: part of the season, Devon Hamilton's wasn't anticipating and you

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Speaker 1: can be big and strong, but the reality is a

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Speaker 1: lot of the other guys that you're playing again big

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Speaker 1: and strong too, And so he was getting knocked around

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Speaker 1: a little bit, you know so, and so when you

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Speaker 1: went to anticipate, you can play stronger, be stronger and

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Speaker 1: uh and hopefully the more reps he gets, the better

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Speaker 1: he becomes in the better pass rusher that he can be.

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Speaker 1: Because it was the third round pick, the expectation as

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Speaker 1: you need to be able to UH to be a

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Speaker 1: decent pass rusher as a defensive tackle. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: if you if you drop somebody in the the third round,

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Speaker 1: he's gotta have some pass rushing potential too, and I

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Speaker 1: think he's got a little bit and he's getting better

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Speaker 1: at it. All right, Loves, let's come back in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Tony was Sally is standing by. He'll join us after

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Speaker 1: the time out. We'll get back on the Jake Luton conversation,

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Speaker 1: the rookie starting quarterback this week for the Jaguars against

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Speaker 1: not gonna be easy, you know, for a rookie first game.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't taken a lot of ups with the first team.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I don't think he's called off play one

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Speaker 1: of our players in the Huddleson's training camp, So uh,

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Speaker 1: it will not be easy for him. Uh. It's his

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Speaker 1: job to be prepared mentally, make sure he goes through

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Speaker 1: the right progressions, handles himself in protections, gets the ball

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Speaker 1: d to James Robinson when he hands it off, and

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Speaker 1: does things right what he's been taught this whole process. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great challenge for him. But we

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Speaker 1: feel good about his demeanor, his work ethic. We feel

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Speaker 1: like he's mentally prepared. But now we just have to

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Speaker 1: wait and see. But that we'll do the best we

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Speaker 1: can to uh make it as easy as possible for him.

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Speaker 1: That's offensive coordinator Jay Gruden earlier this week discussing Jake Luton,

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Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback we'll make the start for the Jags

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Speaker 1: this Sunday against the Houston Texans. Jaguars Happy Hour continues.

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Speaker 1: J P Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman, and Tony Basselli joins us

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Speaker 1: now from way out in Ponto Vedra Beach, Florida. Tony, good, afternoon.

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Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? JP? Logs? Are we doing okay?

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Speaker 1: Ready for some football? Yes? Jake? Hey, listen, Jake Gluten Yeah, Luke?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Tony? Are you what's what is

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Speaker 1: your expectation for his performance on Sunday. I have zero

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Speaker 1: expectations because here's a guy who's a rookie. Um has

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Speaker 1: never taken a snap in an NFL game, had no

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Speaker 1: preseason no o t as, limited reps in training camp,

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Speaker 1: limited reps in the regular season as the third string quarterback.

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Speaker 1: UM is a six round draft pick. UM. I have

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Speaker 1: zero expectations. He's being put in a very tough spot. UM,

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Speaker 1: and I wish him the best. I mean, we saw

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Speaker 1: limited reps of him in training camp. When we saw him,

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Speaker 1: he looked good. Um. He has a big arm. He

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Speaker 1: looks like he's accurate. But the last time he faced

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Speaker 1: a pass rush guys, was in the Mighty Pack twelve Um.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a little bit different speed and

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Speaker 1: feel out there on Sunday. Uh, if they do play

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Speaker 1: based on the COVID situation with Houston, Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: That's Uh, that's a It is quite a task for him,

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Speaker 1: you know. But it's one of those where JP we

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Speaker 1: were talking about we got Yeah, we gotta go back

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Speaker 1: to what what j Grud said there, and I mean

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Speaker 1: to think about that for a minute. Yeah, he said

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Speaker 1: that he hasn't called one of our plays and our

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Speaker 1: huddle since training camp. I mean so, I mean Tony's right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the expectation is is not there. It's not high,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you just you just hope that

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Speaker 1: the young man has a knack and that he's he

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Speaker 1: can allow some of his physical talents, which we clearly

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Speaker 1: saw in training camp and in the scrimmage that allows

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Speaker 1: some of those physical talents to carry him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And and the also the positive thing is is that

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Speaker 1: his last year Oregon State, he was very good at

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Speaker 1: protecting the football. Eight touchdowns I think or something of

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Speaker 1: that nature and three interceptions. I mean, that's that's an

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Speaker 1: incredible ratio. And if he can do that same type

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Speaker 1: of thing with Jaguars, then awesome, awesome. But like Tony said,

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Speaker 1: the expectation is low, but at the same token, the

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Speaker 1: opportunity is very high for a young quarterback in this situation.

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Speaker 1: What's that first huddle going to be Like? If you're

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Speaker 1: a veteran offensive landman and here's Jake Luton out here

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Speaker 1: calling plays in the huddle, that's gotta be a little

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Speaker 1: bit Not that Gardner Minshew's a salty vet. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're both young guys. Anyway, Well, and I got my

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Speaker 1: I can't remember that. UM, maybe Jeff can, but and

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Speaker 1: I think it was nine seven. UM. Margaret dal got

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Speaker 1: hurt in training camp, and we started the season with

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Speaker 1: Rob Johnson. Rob Johnson got hurt in week one, finished

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Speaker 1: the game, but got hurt week one, and we had

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Speaker 1: to have our third string quarterback, Matthews. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: his first names of the life of me. For whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: Steve Matthews and Steve Matthews knew about UM three pass

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Speaker 1: plays and six run plays that he actually could call

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Speaker 1: on the huddle, and it was a struggle for him

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Speaker 1: to get him out and and so the key in

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Speaker 1: those situations everyone else has to rise to the occasion.

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Speaker 1: Everyone else has to play better. And we knew it,

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Speaker 1: and we knew the situation where we're in. We knew

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Speaker 1: we had a guy that was gonna struggle be comfortable,

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Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna struggle to communicate UM, and it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be a very simple game plan. And all

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Speaker 1: we ended up doing is going to scoring I think

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Speaker 1: forty three points. Now. The defense played very well, got

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Speaker 1: some turtle words for us, and we ran the ball

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Speaker 1: and we had big plays to Jimmy Smith and Kingo Cardell.

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Speaker 1: But when I think we literally called, you know, probably

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Speaker 1: a total of ten different plays on that Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: the owners came on everyone else. The offensive line has

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Speaker 1: to block better. You have to keep a clean pocket,

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Speaker 1: you have to run block, you have to be you

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Speaker 1: have to control the line of scrimmage. Receiver has got

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Speaker 1: to create space. Um, you know, the back's gotta run hard.

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Speaker 1: Tight ends got to do their thing. I mean it, really,

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Speaker 1: the onnest comes on everyone else. Now, you can't put

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Speaker 1: this on Jake Luton. It's not fair. I he's not ready.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how talented he is. I don't care

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Speaker 1: what the story is. You know he has he has

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Speaker 1: a big arm, all those different things. I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: see what he can do. It'll be interesting. Um, but

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. There's a reason he was a six

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Speaker 1: round draft pick, and not that guy's lating the draft

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Speaker 1: can't perform at a high level, and not that scouts

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Speaker 1: don't miss some people. So I'm not taking a shot

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Speaker 1: Jake Luten. But you gotta be honest with yourself, and

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Speaker 1: you gotta be realistic, and you have to understand that

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Speaker 1: we're not going to ask this kid to do too

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Speaker 1: much because if we do, most likely it'll be a

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Speaker 1: complete failure. Alright, So so I'm gonna bring this up.

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Speaker 1: And and it's obviously tongue in cheek. Tom Brady was

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Speaker 1: a six round pick. Yeah, but Jeff, but you're you're right.

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Speaker 1: Let me say something real quick. That's a good job

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Speaker 1: because you're right. And but let's not forget um it

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Speaker 1: was I think it was the second year when he

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Speaker 1: finally got in there midway through the season. Um. And

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Speaker 1: if you think back to the early years of Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: tom Brady did not carry that. It's not the Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady we know now or in the in the you know,

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Speaker 1: the last career, the first quarter of his career, it

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Speaker 1: was a defensive team. They ran the ball. They're one

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Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the NFL. That's how they

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, that's how everyone else and allowed

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady to get into it. Yeah, they had did

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Speaker 1: a very good defense. And I obviously said that tongue

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Speaker 1: in cheek. But you know, I think the one thing

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Speaker 1: that they can do. You know, when Tony JP is

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Speaker 1: talking about, Okay, we only had ten plays for Steve

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Speaker 1: Matthews and there's nothing wrong with having ten play, you know,

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Speaker 1: because the one thing I think that you can do

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Speaker 1: sometimes is you can dress up those ten plays. You

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Speaker 1: can put a skirt on it, you can put a

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Speaker 1: I mean by that is you can window dress it.

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Speaker 1: So you might be running the same you might be

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Speaker 1: running ten plays, but one play, if it's run the same,

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Speaker 1: might look you know, four different ways based on a

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Speaker 1: And so it's kind of a way to simplify things

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Speaker 1: without making it simple for the defense to figure out

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're gonna do. Um. But you know, it's

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Speaker 1: I think it's a It's an exciting time for Jake

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Speaker 1: Luton and Tony's right. I mean, the expectations are low,

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Speaker 1: but at the same token, after what I've seen out

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Speaker 1: of Gardner Minshew the last couple of weeks, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to see something different. I'm ready to see somebody execute

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Speaker 1: the offense at a better rate. I'm looking at board

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Speaker 1: and seeing a quarterback trust his pockets to stay in

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Speaker 1: the pocket, to keep his eyes down the field and

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Speaker 1: go through a progression, and then also to be able

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Speaker 1: fitting it in the tight windows. Because I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: much of that from Gardner Minshew, Jeff, do you think

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Speaker 1: and you know basic only what you just said, um,

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Speaker 1: because I agree with all that, I think you're dead on.

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Speaker 1: But I had big questions. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be comfortable with the rush.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna step up. I don't

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Speaker 1: his eyes go down and start looking around a way escape.

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Speaker 1: I'm interested what happens the first time he gets hit

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Speaker 1: in the chops by J. J. Watt and now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden it's came on. Is he started looking

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Speaker 1: down the field? I have no idea. All I know

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Speaker 1: about this kid is that he's a big arm. He

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Speaker 1: even sure how great of an athlete is he gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to run around and buy time? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And training camp that's easy. But those

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Speaker 1: coaching staff doesn't know because they've never seen him do

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Speaker 1: they he has never been back there where the thought

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Speaker 1: that if he holds the ball too long or if

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Speaker 1: he steps up in the pocket, a three h pound

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Speaker 1: that's definitely is seven on seven. One good thing Tony

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Speaker 1: Uh we talked about j J Walk coming in, is

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Speaker 1: J the last time in the last matchup. Yeah, Whitney

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Speaker 1: significant impact in that ball game. And as of right now,

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Speaker 1: So positive. Yeah, let's come back to We'll get into

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Speaker 1: that situation in Houston. We'll talk about that COVID nineteens

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Speaker 1: And I look at the division games this week, it's

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Speaker 1: Just get all them guys healthy and move on to

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Speaker 1: Week ten. But I'm just kidding. I hope everybody's you know,

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00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: hope everybody's healthy over there. Uh. You know, I don't

890
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: wish nobody to get sick or miss any games because

891
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Speaker 1: they're missing paychecks and you know, they got friends to

892
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Speaker 1: day care too, So hopefully they get back healthy. And

893
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm just ready to play. You know, we gotta play

894
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Speaker 1: with the cards that will dealt with, but they gotta

895
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Speaker 1: play with the card that they will dealt with, and

896
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Speaker 1: what'll you see how it goes. Sunday dr Allen discussing

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans COVID nineteen situation and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour On this Thursday, JP Shadrick, Jeff Flagman,

899
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Tony was elly with us as well. The Texans have

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Speaker 1: placed three linebackers on the COVID nineteen reserve list. Jacob

901
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: Martin tested positive for COVID nineteen reportedly, but linebackers Whitney

902
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: Merciless and Dylan Cole will also miss this week's game.

903
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: They must test negative for five days in a row

904
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: because of contact tracing, so three linebackers not available for

905
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: the Texans this week against the Jaguars, and now of

906
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: course concerns about the status of the game as well.

907
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell said today that the league wants to play

908
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: the game if possible, and they'll wait until tomorrow before

909
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: making a decision at the latest Saturday, when the Texans travel.

910
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: So still some question marks, guys about this game. But um,

911
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, three linebackers not coming, that's a that's a

912
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: big chunk on that defensive sidebogs. Yeah, and and I

913
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: will say that JP, I mean the three linebackers you're

914
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: talking about, the one that supposedly tested positive with Jacob Martin,

915
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: and then you have the the high UH incidents of

916
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: contact with Whitney Merciless and Dylan Cole. So that's three.

917
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: But then go to a fourth linebacker, which is Kyle

918
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: Emmanuel who did not practice the last couple of days

919
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: because of a concussion. So in reality, they could be

920
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: short four linebackers, three of them due to COVID, one

921
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: of them because of a concussion. So that would leave

922
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: the Texans with Zack Cunningham, UH, Peter Colombay, Tyrrell Adams,

923
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: Jonathan Greening, and Brendan Scarlett. But you gotta remember now,

924
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean some of these guys are like hybrid defensive

925
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: end linebackers that are not true linebackers. So the Texans

926
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: are gonna have to dip into that practice squad I

927
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: would imagine for this Jaguars game this weekend. Yeah, big change, Tony,

928
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see you the next day or

929
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: so if there's any more positives that pop up down there.

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00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully not, Hopefully this game goes on a schedule this week.

931
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean you hope, so I mean number one,

932
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: you hope no one's getting sick, and you hope everyone's

933
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: all right there. Um, and the you know, the league

934
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: wants to play this game. They want to play all

935
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: the games here because you're running out you know, teams

936
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Speaker 1: with by weeks. We've already had our bye week. So

937
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: now if you don't play this game, you're moving it

938
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: to a Week eight team. I mean you're moving it

939
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: out or you're doing something. I mean, you're you're I

940
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: don't know if you can just because both teams are

941
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. I maybe just cancel it. I mean,

942
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: how do you do it? But you have draft order,

943
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you have so many different things going on

944
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: that it becomes a real issue looking at the overall standing.

945
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: So imagine they'll play it unless there's a big outbreak

946
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: at the Texans if it continues and they're gonna be

947
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: forced to shut down the game. But I would plan on.

948
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: My guess is they'll play. But the other interesting thing

949
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: guy guys around the game, you know, is you have

950
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: the COVID issue, which is, you know, first and foremost

951
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: making sure that everyone's healthy. But Florida George is gonna

952
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: be playing on the field on Saturday and it's seventies

953
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: pent chance of rain. You know. One of the concerns

954
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about and worrying about is what's that

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Speaker 1: field look like. You know, if if Florida and Georgia

956
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Speaker 1: tear it up, um and you know, to no fault

957
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: of their own, just because of the rain. If you

958
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: get a heavy rain for on Saturday, it could make

959
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: it for interesting playing conditions on Sunday. Yeah, I'm looking

960
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: at the weather forecast and I got tony it was

961
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: about so hopefully it is more and what I'm looking

962
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: at versus what you're you're describing. One of the things. Yeah,

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00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: one of the things about the COVID situation that I

964
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: had mentioned a while ago, and I'm kind of surprised

965
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: that the league didn't even take a look at this

966
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: or there wasn't any conversation about this, because Tony you

967
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: mentioned how okay, now that both teams have had their bys,

968
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do if something happens, and and

969
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: JP you had mentioned that as well earlier. I thought

970
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: that every opportunity with teams um going into a bye weeks.

971
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: Perfect example is the Jaguars Texans. If the Jaguars and

972
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: Texans have a bye week and they share it and

973
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: they're playing together coming out of that bye week, play

974
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: it now like last week they should have played it

975
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: last week. Then it would give if teams are healthy,

976
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: just because okay, the more bye weeks that you can

977
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: save kind of getting towards the end of the season,

978
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: the more flexibility that you have to maybe jumble things

979
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: around and move things around. And I'm surprised that the

980
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: league uh didn't take advantage of that once again here

981
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: in this instance, because both the Texans and the Jaguars

982
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: had to buy this past weekend. And the other thing,

983
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you wonder could they move the game like

984
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: they have before moving to Monday night or Tuesday night

985
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: type of thing to give the Texans more time to

986
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: go through the testing protocols and get guys back healthy.

987
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: Um if if it forks out with that five day window,

988
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: so you know, we'll find out more tomorrow. Um and uh,

989
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: we'll see where this thing goes. But you know, with

990
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: COVID cases ticking up everywhere and around the country, this

991
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: is gonna be something the NFL has have to deal

992
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: with weekend and week out. I'm fraid yeah. And one

993
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: thing here, JP the league is dealing with to one

994
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: win football teams here, and I think the flexibility as

995
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: long as the teams can feel fifty three or however

996
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: many for game day by utilizing their practice squad elevations,

997
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: the league is going to say the game must be played.

998
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I don't think they're gonna try to

999
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: maneuver anything else around or have any special considerations for

1000
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: this game. The word is, we're told that the Texans

1001
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: are practicing today, but they're in intensive protocol just like

1002
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were the week of the Chargers games, so

1003
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: virtual meetings. But at least so far today practice has

1004
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: been normal for the Houston Texans let's look around the

1005
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: a f C South games on the docket this week

1006
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: and we'll see how good the Colts are Johnny five

1007
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: and two. They're hosting the Baltimore Ravens also at five

1008
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: and two this week. What do you think about that game? Well,

1009
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting if strength against strength at Colts defense

1010
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: pretty day good and they're done good job all year.

1011
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna face the Baltimore Ravens, who can run the ball.

1012
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: We know that. I mean, they gashed the Steelers and

1013
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for a bunch of turnovers by Lamar

1014
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: Jackson in the passing and probably would have beat the Steelers. Um,

1015
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: So you know, you gotta load up and it'll be

1016
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: interesting to see how the Colts defend them. I think

1017
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: that right now, with the way that the passing game

1018
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: for the Ravens is going, I think Lamar we am

1019
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: not seeing a step forward like we did last year

1020
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. He has been a little bit shaky

1021
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: from the pocket. So I think they're gonna do everything

1022
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: they can to load up and forced Lamar Jackson to

1023
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: beat him from the pocket. Yeah, and the wide receiver

1024
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: in Baltimore Brown is not very happy because he's not

1025
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: getting the ball. Lamar Jackson hasn't taken that next up up.

1026
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, interesting too, the cults have been affected by

1027
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: the COVID situation as well. Uh if I remember reading correctly, today,

1028
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: they practiced and because they had a positive test with

1029
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: a staff member that they are practicing, and then after

1030
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: that they are doing the meeting than everything else remotely

1031
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: because of a staff member being tested positive. So it's amazing.

1032
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if you guys have

1033
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: seen some of the the uptick in the COVID cases

1034
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: across the nation, but I think we're seeing some of

1035
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: that also kind of being reflected in the National Football

1036
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: League because I just don't remember as many issues popping

1037
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: up early in the season, is what we're seeing now

1038
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: with the situation. The Bears and the Titans meet in

1039
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Nashville this week. Bears at five and three, Titans at

1040
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: five and two. Who you like in this one, Tony Well?

1041
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: And I was shocked last week that the Titans played

1042
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: so poorly against the Bengals. I mean, I thought that

1043
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: was a perfect game for them to go out there

1044
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: and run the ball, but their defense has been so

1045
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: poor that made the trade for Desmond King from the

1046
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: Charges this week they got rid of Pick Beasley has

1047
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: really done nothing for them except for take cast some

1048
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: big paychecks. Um and so, but this is I think

1049
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: we're the Titans can get healthy defensively, defensively at least

1050
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: because the Bears are atrocious on the offenses out of

1051
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: the ball. The problem is they're going to get some

1052
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: really good Bears defense were of the better units in

1053
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: the NFL, led by gluil Mack and McKey, um and

1054
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: Hicks the interior defensive alignment. So, um, I think it's

1055
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna be a really good football game. It'll be interesting

1056
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: to get strength against strength, weakness against weakness, so it'll

1057
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: be a good matchup. Yeah, Nick Foles is just he's

1058
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: not very good, and uh, you know, they made the

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Speaker 1: major switch from Trabinsky to Nick Boles and Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: not great. And I think the the interesting matchup of that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that's always interesting to watch Derrick Henry against

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Speaker 1: a great defense, but seeing how Nick Foles and the

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Speaker 1: Bears offense plays against that Titans defense is also that.

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Speaker 1: It's a great matchup. And I'll take the titles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you know interesting thing, Jeff about you mentioned

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Speaker 1: Dick Folds not playing very good. You know, the Bears

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Speaker 1: have better offensive numbers under Trabinsky than they do under Folds.

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Speaker 1: But Risky went and had his shoulder looked at. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think this week he has some damage, so my

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Speaker 1: guess is he won't be coming back. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a bad They're not very good. And uh, I think

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Speaker 1: the Titans get healthy this week. Can figure it out alright, guys,

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Speaker 1: about a minute left here, final thought about the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Texans game. What's your gut telling you, Tony, I actually

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Speaker 1: have no feeling for this one, JP, because I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get at. Jake Luten. I mean now,

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Speaker 1: because the Texans defense is so decimated. Hopefully the offensive

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Speaker 1: line has a big day. Give it to James Robinson,

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Speaker 1: but you have to Shaun Watson. We have yet in

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Speaker 1: the last six games stopped anybody from scoring thirty plus points,

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Speaker 1: so I think they're gonna have to keep it under

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Speaker 1: thirty to win. J C. I'm taking the Jaguars just

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Speaker 1: because the toa factor. Just like the Miami Dolphins got

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Speaker 1: a new quarterback, everybody else rallied and played well. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and you saw the Dolphins end up winning, even though

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Speaker 1: two or through for less than a hundred yards. I

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Speaker 1: think so. I think he could something similar to that

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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars as a team. Well all right, I

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Speaker 1: like it. Jeff Logaman picking the Jags this week, Tony.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you a little bit later in

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Speaker 1: the week. Have a good one, all right. Tell Douga

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Speaker 1: said hello, We'll do it, Tony Vaselli out of here.

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Speaker 1: Stand by coming up its network coverage the Doug Morone

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Speaker 1: Show right around the corner. Thank you for listening and

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