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Now it's time to hear from my man, 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations here we come. Welcome to 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. I am your host with Sean McDonald. 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: It's just like I said every week, it's time to 38 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start writing your own. 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: If you have a gift, I always tell you to 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: leave with your gift and don't let your age, friends, family, 41 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: or co workers stop you from planning or living your dream. 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: My interviews are doing money making conversations or with CEO, celebrities, entrepreneurs, 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: and what I like to call industry decision makers. My 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: next kiss is a celebrity's entrepreneurs. He's chewing an interesting 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: decision maker. His name is Will Packer. Will Packers an 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: HPCU graduate of Family and holds a Bachelor of Science 47 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: degree and electrical engineering. His company, Will Packer Production has 48 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: produced films that have earned more than one billion dollars 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: at the box office, and ten of those films have 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: opened at number one, including Girls, Trip, Night School. Uh goodness, man, 51 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: my movies. You don't think like a bad thing like 52 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: a bad to ride Long, Ride Long? Whoa obsessed breaking 53 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: in up to y'all Come on now is on the 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: shiltern talking about HBCUTH changing your career, narrative, self promotion, 55 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: and the many projects he is currently producing and have 56 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: on his production schedule. Please working to money making conversation, 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: my man Will Packer, Hey, what's happened my friends? You've 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: been having me well, I thank you man. You know 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: our journey man has been an interesting one and uh, 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: you know for as your career and just seen you 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: open up. But one thing I've always noticed about you 62 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: will you can kind of change the narrative as a producer. 63 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: You've always been out front promoting what you do along 64 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: with some of your projects, and it's really changing the 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: narrative caause now everybody does it properly and I don't 66 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: see nothing wrong because you really understood social media from 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: a producing standpoint as an individual early on. What drove that? 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's interestary Shine, you hit it on the head. Uh. 69 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Film and television has always been a director's meeting, and 70 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that at all. But those typically 71 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: we're the only names that you knew, the stars of course, 72 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: and then the directors. Well, when I came in as 73 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: a producer, I knew how important it was to connect 74 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: with an ardience. And I'll be honest with you to Sean, 75 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: that really started with my journey at FAMU because I 76 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: made my first film project, which was Chocola City, while 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: I was still a an undergraduate at FAMU. I was 78 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: a junior. We shot Chocolate City, This a little bit 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: of movie. We didn't know, you know, what it was 80 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: gonna do. We didn't really know what we were doing, 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but we had a lot 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: of dry a lot of passion, a lot of hustles, 83 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: and in order for that film to be successful, I 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: had to go out to my audience, my core audience, 85 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: which at that time was my family peers that those 86 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: were the only people that cared about that movie at 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: that time. We tried to send into Hollywood and they 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: sent it back to Big Friday and Sears, and they 89 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: sent it back to try to send it the big actors. 90 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: They didn't even have the courtesy to send it back 91 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: to John They but that's part of the journey, that's 92 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: what it takes. And I realized I needed to go 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: out and explain to that audience why they should care 94 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: about this family. And that really started something that I 95 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: still do to this day, which is going out and 96 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: trying to touch people with every project that I had, 97 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: trying to connect with people. Back in the days after 98 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: Chocolate City, which was that first movie we shot at 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: fam You, we made a movie called Ta and with 100 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Ta We literally drove all around the country. We drove 101 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: city to city to city. We rented a Ford Excursion, 102 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: which which was a bad plan. I realized now I'm sean, 103 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: because it takes so much gas. It was a big gas. 104 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: We don't have any money, so we spent almost all 105 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: our promotion money trying to fill up that big old truck. 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: But that's what it took. And we went to each 107 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: city and we would tell people literally hand out flying 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: we go to the mall, we go to the church, 109 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: and we go to the club wherever people were, and 110 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: we'd say, please go see our movies. Please go see 111 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: our movie. Well a version of that is what we 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: do and I still do to this day. Now we've 113 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: got social media. You talk about us on your show, Shan. 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: You've got to use the tools that you have access to. 115 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: You've got to use the resources that are available to you. 116 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: And so with the advent of the social media and 117 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: the digital landscape expanding the way that it has, I 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: knew that I didn't needed to use that aspect of 119 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: my promotion. My grassroots hustle to connect with people, and 120 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: so that's exactly what we did with some of those 121 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: big movies that you name. But it really started right 122 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: there on the campus and family going and knocking on 123 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: doors and trying to get people to care about the movie, 124 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: getting them to understand it wasn't just something that was 125 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna be released, you know, on their campus and maybe 126 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: they go, maybe they don't. I was going around telling 127 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: people you have to go see this movie, and a 128 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: version of that is what I still do to this day, 129 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: do it very well. Now. But your electrical engineer, that 130 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: was your degree plan? Okay, now, okay, it's really interesting 131 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: because I always tell people, like, you know, I wanted 132 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: to be a stand up. I got my degree in mathematics, 133 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: my mind and sociology. Just because I wanted to go 134 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: in that direction didn't mean I need to change my 135 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: degree plan. And I think it's really impressive, and I 136 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: know you get the reaction. I get what I tell 137 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: people about degrees in mathematics. When you tell people your 138 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: electrical engineer, they always go huh and then but they said, 139 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: but they said in a good way because they're stunned 140 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: because they know how difficult it is to achieve because 141 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: you was an unders graduate as well, and they have 142 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: to re plan. So let's talk about that now, you know, 143 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: I left my job. I left, I graduated math, I 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: went to work for IBM, so everything was normal, and 145 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: then I went to pursue my career as a stand 146 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: up comic. You left college with your electrical engineer honors 147 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: graduate and pursued a Hollywood career. What do people think 148 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: that I was crazy? The same thing they thought about you. 149 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: You know that when you left a good stable, corporate 150 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: gig to change your dream and your passion, they said, 151 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: what are you doing? You know Hollywood? You know, we 152 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: didn't know where Hollywood was. We didn't have a lot 153 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: of uh, Hollywood connections, We didn't have you know, big 154 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: money and resources and all that. So people thought it 155 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: was fanciful. They thought that I was just chasing a 156 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: dream that was unlikely to ever be realized. But one 157 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: thing about about dreamers, and you notice Rashot, is that 158 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: your dream is your dream. Nobody else has it. Don't 159 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: give anybody else power over your dream. Nobody owns it 160 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: but you. And until you say that the dream is over, 161 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: until you say that the dream is dead, until you 162 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: say that the dream is deferred, it's not because as 163 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: long as you still believe in it, it's still got 164 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: a possibility of happening, and so um, I Yes, graduated 165 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: magnicum laude with a degree in electrical engineering. And I 166 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: got into electrical engineering because I was strong in math 167 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: and science when I was coming up in high school 168 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: and got a scholarship to attend FAM you in engineering. 169 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: So that's kind of helped to shape that path because 170 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to go At the time that I first 171 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: went into college, I didn't know that I was gonna 172 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: be a filmmaker. I thought I was just going to 173 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: be an entrepreneur. That was I knew that was my passion, 174 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: and I wanted to go to an Ivy League school, 175 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: but they weren't offering me a single dime and you 176 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: was offering me a big old scott A ship to 177 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: be in their engineering program. So my parents said, guess 178 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: where you're going. I said, I guess it won't be 179 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: the IVY. They said, you damn right, So they sent 180 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: me to FAMI. You. The decision was made for me 181 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: and it was the best decision ever. And I took 182 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: that a ran with it much like you did. Right. 183 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: I had that solid foundation. 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Well 229 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: that's key, that's key. And I guess that transitions to 230 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: people don't know you, but they still believe in your brain. 231 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: That kind of like our relationship. I was Steve Harvey 232 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: and now I was on Steve Harvey Morning Show and 233 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: this movie Stump the Yard came out, and I and 234 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey and I we we would act well. I 235 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: format allowed us to talk to all the black people 236 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: in America. Wherefore we felt, you know, we're talking to 237 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: all the black people with number one more thing shore 238 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: in the country. And I told Steve as to Steve, 239 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: let's make this movie. Let's really put some effort. Nobody 240 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: made a media by, Nobody made the media by. But 241 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: I said, we gotta start supporting because Steve has the 242 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: ability and he has such a loyal and passionate fan base. 243 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: I said, let's drive this movie. Let's let's push this 244 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: movie and make it number one. And I didn't even know, 245 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: you just felt that black projects at that time, especially 246 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: your movie, and it was about fraternity these, it was 247 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: about hbcuth School. It was hit. It hit all of 248 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: the uh the points that I wanted to support, and 249 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: it became number one, and unknowingly that was a really 250 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: a strong lynch point pen to launching your brand. Correct. Well, listen, 251 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: it's it's what you saw was potential in a young 252 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: black filmmaker that you didn't know. You saw a project 253 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: that had the right themes and the right elements that 254 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: needed to be out there, right, and you supported you 255 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: use your platform that you were associated with at that 256 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: time to help elevate it. That's what we can all 257 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: do every day, the projects that you see a lot 258 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: of people sit back and talk about stuff, right, you 259 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: know we should. There should be more movies like this, 260 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: more content like this, more more politicians like this. But 261 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: you have the power. Are you putting your brand your money? 262 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: And I don't mean you have to be Rashya McDonald 263 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: or even wild Packing, right, you can just be somebody 264 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: at home. You're voting with your dollars, you're voting with 265 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: your clicks, You're voting with you at the balance box. 266 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: Literally voting, but people don't utilize their power enough. So 267 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: you use your platform, which helped to elevate what we 268 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: were trying to do. And if it weren't for people 269 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: like yourself and others that came in and said, we're 270 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: gonna go and support this movie, right, this is the type. 271 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: So these are the types of stories that we want 272 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 1: to see on the big screen. There's no way we 273 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: would have been number one movie in the country for 274 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. As a matter of fact, 275 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: that was because people came out and supported that movie. 276 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: And so I try to make sure that people realize 277 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: you still have that power today. You don't have to 278 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: be some big celebrity figure. You got a network whoever 279 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: you are, You've got people that you talked to. I 280 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: don't care if is that the Nelson Lion, Barbershop, online, Twitter, 281 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: whatever it is. You're talking to people, You're connecting with people. 282 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: How are you using your network? How are you using 283 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: your own personal plator? Well, you know that you have 284 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: a highlight ability and that's really important. I remember that 285 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: when Steve already book blew up, Act like a lady, 286 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: Think like a man, and uh I remember Oprah came 287 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: to us about a book opportunity. Uh, screen Jims came 288 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: to an opportunity. We all said no. And then this 289 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: black dude who had never met my knife name Will Packer, 290 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: called me say, hey, man, let's talk. Let's talk, and 291 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: flew down to Dallas would be a Steve and drove 292 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: around and convinced us, man that that's a skill. Will 293 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: you know that's that's a skill, because I say, no, easy, 294 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: real easy, And but you have learned to be able 295 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: to disseminate the positive and why this will work, and 296 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: even because you know we will how much. Just tell 297 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: everybody Steve and I envisioned this to be a white 298 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: cast and you said no. Rachelle, I got this guy 299 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: named Kevin Hard, and I really didn't know Kevin Hard 300 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: like you knew Kevin Hart. You know you should reshard 301 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: this guy. He's the next, next one. He's the next 302 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: I said, I said, Steve, he's gonna Steve, Steve being 303 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Steve Hard. I said, he wants Kevin Hard to start it. 304 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: I said, he's Steve s okay, Kevin Hard. Huh? I 305 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: said yeah, he said he's the one, and so we 306 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: trusted you, and the rest is history. How do you 307 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: see talent like that, and because that's what's happening to 308 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: all your movies, all your problem. You're not number one 309 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: by accident. You have a skill to be able to 310 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: see talent and cast it along with great storylines. Talk 311 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: to us about that. Apreciate you. I appreciate you saying 312 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: average him, But I also want to give give some 313 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: love back to you because if you don't take that 314 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: call right you had a lot of people that were 315 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: calling you, trying to get into your universe, trying to 316 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: get on there with you and Steve and being you 317 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: guys world. But you took the call and you gave 318 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: me an opportunity, and I really do appreciate that. Brother. 319 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: I want to I want to say that, you know, 320 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: in front of everybody, because if you don't have that opportunity, 321 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: if I don't have somebody like you that that takes 322 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: that call, uh, it makes it so much harder for 323 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: me to get to that next level. And that's basically 324 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: what I'm doing when it comes to talent like like 325 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: Kevin hard or or or address Elba, Tippety Hattes, some 326 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: people I'm very proud to have have worked with on 327 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: some of their early projects that kind of launched them 328 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: into into superstardom. They've got the talent, right, It's not 329 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: that that you know, Um, I've had anything to do 330 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: with Kevin's talent, even amazing comedian and actors saying with 331 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Tiffany Say with interest in their own rights and other 332 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: people that I've worked with. But I did have a platform, right, 333 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: I had the movie that at that time was a 334 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: foundation for them to be a launching path for their careers. 335 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of them. But I gotta be able 336 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: to take the call right like you took the call. 337 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: And I also do have to be able to ascertain 338 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: who I think has got talent that is I'm gonna 339 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: call it big screen worthy for the purposes of this conversation, Right, everybody, 340 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: there's some great talent out there that work really well 341 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: on say Instagram or or on TikTok, and everybody is 342 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: not set up to be the star of a big 343 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: television show or a big movie. You do have to 344 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: and this is something that I've phoned over the years, 345 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: you do have to be able to ascertain whether or 346 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: not talent has something that is transferable, because all talent 347 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: is not. But Kevin, for instance, would think like a man. 348 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: He definitely had a transferable skill set, and you aren't 349 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: the only one that was saying, you know who's Kevin 350 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: Hart was the big deal? All the Hollywood was saying 351 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: trust me, like there was you know, there were not 352 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people knocking down Kevin door because it 353 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: has some products that had come out before that that 354 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: had failed, right, they were not successful. So people felt like, 355 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: we know Kevin Hart, and we know what the ceiling 356 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: of his talent is and it's not very high. Whereas 357 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: I felt like that's not true. He was having a 358 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: moment at that time. People were really connecting with him, 359 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: and I felt like if he just had the right platform, 360 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: he could take it to the next level. So that 361 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: mirror is the story that you told about how you 362 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: know when you and Steve allowed me to come down 363 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: to Dallas and pitch the movie. It's the same thing. 364 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: You need an opportunity, You need somebody to give you 365 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: a chance to listen to you and to see your talent. 366 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, It's funny. I talked to people all the 367 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: time about perception, about perception, I tell everybody if Vice 368 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: President and Kamala Harris didn't tell anybody what schools she 369 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: went through, they would immediately say Ivy League. They would 370 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: meedily say Ivy League. And so if Will Packard didn't 371 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: hype the fact he graduated from FAMI, you they would 372 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: probably say in USC Film School U c l A. 373 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: They would immediately throw you in the because that's what 374 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be coming from, according to the industry, 375 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: according to perception. But you're an HBCU Grant tell us, Wow, 376 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: the difference that made in your life and how you 377 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: caring at that mantra live everybody know the quality of 378 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: education and opportunity that is being presented to African Americans, 379 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: all people of color are those schools, and they're changing 380 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: the landscape of America. Yeah, education at the highest levels. 381 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that um sometimes people even black people, 382 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: uh don't realize and give hbc US enough credit for 383 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: it is education at the highest level. More importantly though, 384 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: because you can get a great education at a lot 385 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: of different places. What you don't get is the sense 386 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: of community that creates a Kamala Harris, that creates a 387 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: Will Packer, that creates an Oprah Winfrey, that creates a Spikely, 388 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: that creates so many folks that have come out of 389 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: these HBCUs and going on to greatness. There's a sense 390 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: of community. There's a feeling of you are good enough, 391 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: you are important enough, and a a pressure that is 392 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: in the best way to push you to get to 393 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: the next level. See, I was somebody that had taken 394 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: advantage of the fact that I was very often the 395 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: only black kid in the honors classes and the ap 396 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: classes um at my high school because I grew up 397 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: in St. Pete, Florida, and and my high school was 398 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: only temperasent black, and so often times I was the 399 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: only kid in the honors class. I got a lot 400 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: of attention, right, and I've got a lot of the 401 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: white kids and white teachers and administrators, frankly who underestimated me. 402 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: And I was savvy enough and strategic enough to take 403 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: advantage of that. When when I went to fail, they 404 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: weren't impressed. They were like, we all came from the 405 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: honors class, right, we all know how to talk to talk, 406 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Like you know how to talk, will pack. We're not 407 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: impressed by you. You gotta do more, you gotta do 408 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: something else to make yourself stand out. And it really 409 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: honed the skills that I used today being pitching a 410 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: movie or selling a project, or like you talked about 411 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: the likability factor, trying to get people to support what 412 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: it is that I'm doing. I learned all of that 413 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: at Family. So I'm a big proponent of FAMI, you 414 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: and and HBCUs in general. And the thing I think 415 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: people don't realize is that they're not monolithic, and they 416 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: are truly a pipeline. So many of our professionals, I 417 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: don't care if you're talking about entertainment industry, um, the 418 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: stock market, doctors, teachers, pharmacists, so many of them come 419 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: from HBC. Is the pipeline is unquestionable, unquestioned and unmatched. 420 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Right it really is? It really is? Now you know 421 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: you've read lately on TV become a relationship man. You 422 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: know you've been our match maker king. Now you know 423 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: Peter ring on it and got my boy and nephew 424 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: Tommy hosting Ready to Love on own. Now how you 425 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: how you become how you get it to the relationship game? 426 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: I know, thinking like a man, but that was just 427 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: a movie there. But now you've become a relationship king, 428 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: the Black relationship King on TV. Talk to us about that? 429 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: Will I like, how that sound. But I take that. 430 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: I'll wear that. I wear that crowd. Uh. You know, 431 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: I think it was an opportunity man opportunity that honestly 432 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: really did start with Things Like a Man. Things Like 433 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: a Man was the first relationship movie that I did 434 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: that really was big. And Uh. It started with the 435 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: conversation frankly with Oprah. I have a relationship with own 436 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: and with Discovery, who is the parent company that that 437 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: owns owned along with Oprah? And I said, Uh, I 438 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: went to to Oprah's house promising land and talk to 439 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: her about what I thought was missing. That's what she 440 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: asked me, where are the opportunities on my network? What 441 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: is missing? And I said, one of the first things 442 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: I said, I pitched a couple shows, but one of 443 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: the first ones was I said, you know, where are 444 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: the grown African American dating show? I said, It's one 445 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: thing if you've got people that are dating in their twenties, 446 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: but you don't really know what you want when you 447 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: in your twenties, you know, you're just figuring out, you're learning, 448 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: and you know, all of us have been through relationships 449 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: in our twenties and if it lasted, God bless you. Right, 450 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: But a lot of us we don't figure it out 451 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: to beget to our thirties and forties. And so I said, 452 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: let's do something that it's for your audience, which owns 453 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: audience is grown funks, right, It is primarily you know, 454 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: forty US African Americans. I said, day daty. They're trying 455 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: to figure it out that coming out of the relationships 456 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: and coming out marriages. Some of them got kids. What 457 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: does that look like? 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Is that I remember just 497 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: transitioning um to another great Black film director and producers 498 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: Tyler Perry. And Tyler Perry was talking about you know, 499 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: he'll call people when he cast him. A lot of 500 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: time when they kid casting in this project, he'll call 501 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: him and and and you know a lot of them 502 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: don't think it's a prank phone call. Not really. I 503 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: was talking to interview and nephew talking me. He said, 504 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: when you called him about Ready to Love, he thought 505 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: he was being a prank because he's the king up ranks. 506 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: So so when does it get now when you make 507 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: the phone call? Where? Because I know, you make the 508 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: call and tell people, and it's a blessing to tell 509 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: people they've been cast in different projects. When you started 510 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: noticing the turn, because first you're just doing your job 511 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: and just happy. But your Will pack you are a brand. 512 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: You are in some ways, let's be honest, a career maker, 513 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: because you can put people in leaving roads, your boxer, 514 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: box office, a star. So that phone call that you make, 515 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: now it's a little bit different. Now the talent isn't 516 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: it's different. You're right, and I appreciate saying every shot 517 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: it is. Uh. It feels good to be in a 518 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: position to get people opportunities because you're talking about folks 519 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: that have worked very, very hard to get in the 520 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: position that they're in to be noticed by someone like 521 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: Will Packer, who has a platform, who has a show, 522 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: who has a movie, right, and so you worked hard 523 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: to get yourself in that position. When you do get 524 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: that call, it's amazing. It's nothing like it. It's a 525 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: true validation not only of the work you put in, 526 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: but of your talent, because I can't hire everybody that 527 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: works hard. A lot of people work hard, but you 528 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: gotta work hard. You gotta have the talent. You gotta 529 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: have them both and be focused and be persistent, because 530 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: you could be talented and working hard and still not 531 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: get a call from a Will Packer. Tyler Barry anybody. 532 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: It's very possible. Right, But if you are focused and persistent, 533 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: you keep working and if you got that talent, you 534 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: just keep getting better and better and better. I think 535 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: I am a big believer that the opportunity will present 536 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: itself and then it's on you to take advantage when 537 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: you have that moment. Don't let that moment pass you by. 538 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: And see that sometimes too, Rishan, I see people that, um, 539 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: they're not ready when the opportunity presents itself, right, maybe 540 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: not mature enough, maybe not focused enough. Um. And that's unfortunately, 541 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: because you don't know how many of those shots you're 542 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: gonna get. When you get that shot you're taking, you're taking, 543 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: you go for you run with it and never let 544 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: it go. That's what somebody like Kevin Hard or Tivity 545 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Hass has done. You know, I really appreciate that. But 546 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: also the reason I love talking to you because you know, 547 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: we we can laugh at each other and tease each other. 548 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: You tell somebody will see Will will well, you know 549 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: he threw he threw out a conversation during this interview 550 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: like it was no big deal. Well, you know, Oprah 551 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: asked me, what do you think what's missing on my network? 552 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: Oprah asked me, Now, you know, well, when do you 553 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: get to the point your life that Oprah asked anybody? 554 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: She asked you and you're like, where I think, Oprah? 555 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: You know, can you give me a glass of wine? 556 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: And you got that was a little bit of a 557 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: name that has a big name. That's a perion there, 558 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: black woman, Okay, who is defined blackness for us all 559 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 1: the last twenty years of our life. But you're sitting 560 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: right there now, Will, when we see so many elegant 561 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: African Americans in the entertainment business that are getting deals, 562 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: that are getting that being being recognized for the black 563 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: culture is now being viable and it's not on the 564 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: streaming networks but the film and network television. That has 565 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: to make you feel good. Will, I fact makes me 566 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: feel good to be a part of it. Right. Um, 567 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: I am now looking at another generation coming up behind me. 568 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: This everything runs in cycles and the film and is 569 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 1: is no different. And so when I was coming up, 570 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: I was able to look at people like Spike Lee, 571 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: like the Huddling Brothers, like the Huge Brothers. These were 572 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: filmmakers that John Singleton God blessed Soul. These were people 573 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: that were making movies when I was trying to get 574 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: in Robert Towns and I would look at them and say, Bam, 575 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do what they're doing. Right. I 576 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: got my shot, and I've been very blessed and very 577 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: fortunate to have a lot of success within that industry. 578 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Now when I look at this new prop of filmmakers 579 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: that's coming up, I see this cycle, I see this 580 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: new wave, and it's so man, it is so um. 581 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: It's really validating, Mi Sean. I'll be honest with you, 582 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: because it feels like, Okay, the work that I put in, 583 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: laid the pen, laid the foundation, and and put in 584 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: the groundwork so that this next generation can come in 585 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: and I hope surpass everything you know that I've ever done. 586 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: I got ten number ones. I hope someday that's somebody 587 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: with twenty number ones at the box office. Box office 588 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: a little bit different now, you know the way that 589 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: they do. You know, everything is on streaming, so we'll 590 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: see that that record might stand for a while. But 591 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: the point is that there are a lot a lot 592 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: of new African American filmmakers that have a chance to 593 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: tell their stories. And I'm hopeful that my success because 594 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: this industry is all about success, right, somebody has a 595 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: big movie, makes a bunch of money. Hollywood wants the next. 596 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: Who else can do what they do? You know, give 597 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: us the next you know Ryan Kubin, right, give us 598 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: the next Shaka King, you know Judice in the Black Masside, 599 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: Give us the next whoever it is. Well, I'm hopeful 600 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: that Will Packer made some of the folks in the 601 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: industry say we need another World pack We need to 602 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: work with some more black producers because they can be 603 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: successful the way that Will Packer was And that, honestly, 604 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: that's legacy, and that's really what you're doing for. Honestly, 605 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's what I'm most 606 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: proud of my legs. Well, I've always been most proud 607 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: of the fact that you understood value because you understood 608 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: Roshan number one. I remember when we were after we 609 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: did think like a man. We were talking on the phone. 610 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: You go here for Sean. Put a little extra juice 611 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: so on this one, you know, because y'all hyping up 612 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: as a little bit more because I want to be 613 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: number one. You knew as far as your brand by 614 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: hanging on to that. Montro are releasing number ones, it 615 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: would pay off down the line. And it's like I said, ten, 616 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: that is nothing that well, let me tell yourself, never 617 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: been done before. Okay, white or black, never been done before, 618 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: and so but you always have a vision about that. 619 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: Now that leads to these upcoming projects that you have 620 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: coming up ed Universal and then you're also developed a 621 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: dog Williams bio pick talk about the upcoming projects and 622 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: the podcast that you have roling out again the will 623 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: pack of brand. You know what, first of all, I 624 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: got amazing team around me, Rashan, and I want everybody 625 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: listening to this to know that, like, at the end 626 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: of the day, you're only as strong as your team, 627 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: right It's it's my name is at the top of 628 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: the of the company letterhead and all of that. But 629 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I got good people 630 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: around me. And so as you're looking to build yourself 631 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: up and and do what we've talked about in this interview, 632 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: make sure you got to write people around you. Uh. 633 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: And we're busy, man, we are busy. We are We 634 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: announced in a podcast deal with my Heart. As you know, um, 635 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: one of the the major, the biggest in terms of podcasting, 636 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: the one the major audio services that are out there. 637 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: So we're doing podcast We've got one dropping this summer. 638 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: It's a narrative podcast. So it literally is us getting 639 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: a chance to develop stuff which may turn out to 640 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: be a movie or a television show later, but it's 641 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: starting off in the podcast format. Um, I'm going to 642 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: shoot with in your Selvil, who we talked about, uh 643 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: this summer. I've got a movie called Beast that I'm 644 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: excited about it. In Yourselvi's he's uh he's trapped in 645 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: the jungle with a man eating lighting, a man eating 646 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: lion chasing him and his family. Now, so that's excuse me, 647 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: fun escapist fair. Um so that's good. And then we've 648 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: got um a television show called Bigger, which is airing 649 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: on BT Plus right now. Uh So if you don't 650 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: have BT Plus, check it out, go stream at. Tyler 651 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: Perry has uh all his content on BT Plus. This 652 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: show is called Bigger, is a fun, sexy comedy has 653 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: grown now it's definitely grown a little bit edgy. Uh 654 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: but you you were my Gira shot. It's it's good. Uh. 655 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: Then of course you talked about raiding love on Friday Nights. 656 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: I got another relationship show called put a Ring on 657 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: It about couples that have been dating for a very 658 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: long time but have never gotten married, and they do 659 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: the social experiment where they see what would happen if 660 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: you allow your significant other to date someone else for 661 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: thirty days? What happens and at the end of those 662 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: dirty days does it make your relationship stronger? Does it 663 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: tear it apart? So that one was called put a 664 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Ring on It? And that was yeah, man, that that was. 665 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: That was over his face when I pitched her that 666 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: one too, exactly, just you say, oh, you're trying to 667 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: get people in trouble. So it was busy. You've got 668 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff happening, and you've got now you've 669 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: got Doun Williams. God tell us about Doun Williams. Jay Williams, Man, 670 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: absolutely listen. We talked about hbc U, We talked about 671 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: overcoming adversity. He is the epitome, the troop personification of that. 672 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: Doug Williams first black quarterback ever to win a Super Bowl, 673 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl m v p UM a personal hero of mine. 674 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: We're actually doing a story with Sean, Thank you for 675 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: bringing that up. We're doing his story as a big 676 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: screen biopic um and he deserves the big screen telling. 677 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: He is the precursor to Russell, with Wilson and Patrick 678 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson and Colin Kaepernick. 679 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: He was the first one to go out and succeed 680 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: at the highest levels through all the adversity, because you 681 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: know how it is. He had a lot of folks 682 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: that were rooting against him and said, you can't do 683 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: it as a black quarterback. You're not smart enough, you 684 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: don't have what it takes, you don't have the leadership. 685 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: But he did, and he went out and won, and 686 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: so we're gonna tell his story and give him the 687 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: big screen treatment. I'm very excited about that. Well well, well, 688 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time to come on Money 689 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: Making Conversations man, your special brother, and I appreciate you, 690 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: and you know coming to me, I'm always gonna promote 691 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: what you gotta say, even when I know you and 692 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't know you. The great connector with Sean. I 693 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you, my friend. All love brother. Thank you, And 694 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: if you want to see any of the interviews are 695 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: here in the interviews on Money Making Conversation, please go 696 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation dot com. 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