1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, A production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Holly Fry and 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy V. Wilson. We talked about Sofia Jex Blake 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: all week long, the whole week. This was one of 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: those accidental two parters, and it's because I just fell 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: in love with her. She's great. Yeah, there's so much 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: to talk about him behind the scenes. One was I 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: mentioned at the top of the first episode that I 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: have this sense of identification with her growing up experience 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: of just being like the outlier of her family and 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: her parents not understanding her and being like, but why 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: can you not just chill the heck out? Can you 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: be quiet? Her being like that, I don't know how 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: to do that, And I'm like, girl, did your mom 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: send her letters to my mom? And then my mom 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: just read them aloud but in a gruffer, slightly angry 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: or voice. Maybe I felt it in my heart. However, 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: I will say that Mariah in particular, as much as 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: she could say things that sounded sort of cruel, she 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: also wrote deeply lovingly about her children, Like at one 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: point I was reading a thing that she wrote where 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: she said, I have learned more from my children than 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: they have ever learned from me, And she talks about 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: how proud she is of them, and it's one of 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: those instances where you just see that, like the relationship 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,639 Speaker 1: that kids have with their parents is not always fully 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: reflective of the way parents feel about those kids. I 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: don't think that's uncommon today, right, certainly not at this 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: point in time. I also just want to send a 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: thanks to Safia Jex Blake for being a literal, lifelong diarist. 31 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: We have so much information about her and how she 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: felt about things and what she went through that we 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: don't often have a historical figures. Yeah, a lot of 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: times we know somebody's like outward public documented things and 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: zero about their inner world. Yeah, that's why it was. 36 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: It's so moving that when her mom died, she wrote 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: almost nothing about it, like she could not deal with 38 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: that loss at all. I have a really cute story, okay, 39 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: from her school years when she was kind of branded 40 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: a problem student because of her behavior. There is an 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: instance I love this story where she and the rest 42 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: of her classmates were on like what sounds like a 43 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: field trip where they were walking in like a nature 44 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: preserve or something, and Sophia got tired, and so she 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: sat down on a rock and her teacher was like, 46 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: you cannot sit down. She's like, but I'm really tired. 47 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: I can't keep going. I need to rest. She's like, 48 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: you have to keep going, and her teacher, flippantly, I'm presuming, 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: made the threat that if she did not get up, 50 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: she would send for a policeman to physically get her up. 51 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Oh you're about to be so in love, 52 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: because Sofia's response was, could you send two policemen? Wow? 53 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it. She also, 54 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: in her writing about traveling in the US is very 55 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: interesting because her take on what women in the United 56 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: States are like versus what they're like back in England 57 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: is really interesting because she wrote at one point women 58 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: in the US have quote much higher level of learning, 59 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: much lower level of outward signs of refinement, all right then, 60 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: which her thoughts along those lines actually got used against 61 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: her later in some of those arguments about education and 62 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: her trying to get access to it, where they're like, 63 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: but you say that women that are more educated are 64 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: essentially just pigs like that, and she's like, I did 65 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: not say that, right, but you're misquoting me, and she 66 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: would always defend and like dig in and be like, 67 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: I will quote you exactly what I said, which is 68 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: not what you're paraphrasing. Pretty great. How did you arrive 69 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: at Sefaia as the pronunciation, Well, it is because because 70 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: I watched a lot of like there are many, many, many, 71 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: like short little leg history clips of people talking about her, 72 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: and a lot of them say Sophia, which listen as 73 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: a lifelong Golden Girls fan. That's how I tend to 74 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: say it. But when they did that twenty nineteen ceremony 75 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: where they actually it's quite beautiful, they had current students 76 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: stand in as each of the women, Oh nice, and 77 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: it was really really lovely, but they all said Sofia, yeah, 78 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: every one of them. And I was like, Okay, this 79 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: is an official event. I'm going to prioritize this rather 80 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: than and like, you know, just people who are randomly 81 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: talking about her. Yeah. So that was my There were 82 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: others that used Safaia versus Sophia, right, but that was 83 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: like the decider for me. Well, I my gut is 84 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: that a century earlier there would have been less of 85 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: a question about it because Mariah was like the more 86 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: common pronunciation then, but by this point there was some 87 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: more variety, and I would say now for people living 88 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: in the United States specifically, Maria is by far, like 89 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: Maria and Sophia are way more common pronunciations than Mariah 90 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: and Sophia. Yeah, to the point that, like, I know 91 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: for sure, we've had folks that we've talked about that 92 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: were like eighteenth century figures who probably said it Mariah, 93 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: but we said Maria, or we're probably Sofia and said Sophia. 94 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: To the point that when we did that episode about 95 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the SS Princess Sefaia shipwreck, we got a couple people 96 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: who were really ugly and calling us idiots for pronouncing 97 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: it Safaia. They were like, don't you know how to 98 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: pronounce this name? It's so common, And I was like, 99 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: this is not how it was pronounced. In this case, 100 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: we do, in fact know how to pronounce it, and 101 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: it is not what you name. It was not that one. Yeah, 102 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: that was my decider for her. Yeah, this is a 103 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: very random thing. But you know, anytime I'm doing research 104 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: on someone and it mentions an address that they moved into, 105 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: you know, I look up that address in modern day 106 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: and see what's up. So her cute little room that 107 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: she rented, I mean it wasn't really I think it 108 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: was bigger than a room. It was rooms her apartment 109 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: she rented essentially in New York at two twenty two 110 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: East tenth Street. She mentioned I think she was paying 111 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: fifty five dollars a month to rent it, which was 112 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: a significant amount. I mean, she had she had an 113 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: income because she had an allowance because her family was 114 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: pretty well off. But even she was like oooh after 115 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: that and paying for food, it's tight. Okay, Today, that 116 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: same setup at two twenty two East tenth Street, with 117 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: two bedrooms, two rooms essentially in one bath is one 118 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: point five million dollars. Oh my goodness. Just FYI Yeah. 119 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean again, we all know New York is an 120 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: expensive city, but I was just like she would bulk 121 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 1: at this. We discussed before we started recording how odd 122 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: it is that there is no mention of New England 123 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: Female Medical College. Yeah. So, had I not just done 124 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: the episode on Rebecca Lee Crumpler, I would not have 125 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: even really known an about it for that to have registered. 126 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: But like as I remember, there was a lot of 127 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: overlap between the hospital and the college, Like there were 128 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: members of the board at the hospital that had graduated 129 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: from the college, just a lot of connections. I saw 130 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: some sources that described the hospital as a teaching facility 131 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: for the college, and I was not able to confirm 132 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: whether there was that much of an official relationship between them, 133 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: like in the time that I was spending on that podcast. Yeah, 134 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: So I was like, as I was reading over your outline, 135 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I was like, you are working really hard to try 136 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: to get into Harvard. Is I can imagine a number 137 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: of reasons that a person might be, like I would 138 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: rather go to Harvard than the New England Women's Medical 139 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: College or whatever it was called at the time, right, 140 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: because it did change its name a couple of times. 141 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: But to just not have it mentioned at all, I'm like, 142 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: what the only thing I could think of, Well, there 143 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: were two things I could think of, But the only 144 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: thing I could think of that's supported by actual information 145 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: is that I think the college didn't have like a 146 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: true established home base facility like regularly, like they were 147 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: kind of working in various buildings they could use until 148 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: just a little after she would have been in Boston. 149 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: So that's my only thinking. If it was in a 150 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: period of transition where it wasn't didn't feel quite as 151 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: solid and stable, she may have veered away from it. Yeah, 152 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: it's also possible that it may have still because it 153 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: originally started out as a midwiffery program and then it 154 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: expanded into like a full medical program, and it could 155 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: be that it still had associations with midwiffery and like 156 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: women's health and children, and maybe that was not really 157 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: what where she wanted her focus to be as much 158 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: this is all speculation. Well, it's such an odd thing. 159 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: And like that biography by Margaret Todd is more than 160 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: seven hundred pages long. It is detailed, it is in depth. 161 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: I read it and really enjoyed it and used a 162 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: lot of pieces from it for this episode, and like 163 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: for it to never even men shit. Yeah, it's almost 164 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: as weird as the fact that Margaret Todd is never 165 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: mentioned in the biog was their drama? Yeah, so I 166 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: don't know what was going on there. I would like 167 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: to talk briefly about dissecting okay, which is something that 168 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm admittedly a bit squeamish about, as many people are. 169 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: I think two things. One, it is fascinating to me 170 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: that she was down with dissecting. She did not have 171 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: a problem with it. She wrote about in some of 172 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: her diaries, like, no, you just have to focus and 173 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: remember that, like it's what you're doing is so delicate 174 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: and important, and you don't have time, if you're serious 175 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: about medicine to let yourself be squeamish because you really 176 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: have to preserve the integrity of the sample. That you 177 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: just get focused and it stops being an issue. And 178 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: she mentions that like in her dissecting classes at the 179 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: University of Edinburgh when they were allowed to do them, 180 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: that like those are the classes where other students didn't 181 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: tend to mess with them at all. Everybody was pretty 182 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: quiet because they were all super focused. I'd love this, 183 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: and I'm fascinated by it, and I have deep admiration 184 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: for it. I do have never wanted a career in medicine, 185 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: so I couldn't handle it. But there is another story 186 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: this she tells that is the cutest thing on earth, 187 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: where she is talking about while she's at the medical school, 188 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: receiving a letter from her I think it was from 189 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: her mother, and it got delivered to her while she 190 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: was in the dissecting room, and she read it right 191 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: there on the spot, and she makes a note in 192 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: her diary that is the cutest I think it was 193 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: in her diary and not in a letter that to 194 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: me was just the cutest thing where she just wrote quote. 195 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: It is quaint sometimes to think of the different scenes 196 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: in which letters are written and read, like just knowing 197 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: that her mom would probably freak out at the thought 198 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: of her reading a letter while she stood in this 199 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: dissecting room with a half dissected situation going on. Yeah, 200 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: I love it so much. I love it so much. 201 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: I get a little perturbed at her parents sometimes. I 202 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: love it so much. I also I'm backtracking a little. 203 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: The reports she would have sent home from schools were 204 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: a little flashbacky for me. Mm hmmm, because I can 205 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: tell you just about every single year of elementary school, 206 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: the report was Holly is a very bright child who 207 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: lacks self control every year. So when like, literally it's 208 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: like Sufia, it's very smart, but she lacks self control. 209 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: I was like, are y'all using the same script? What's 210 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: going on in here? And it made me love her 211 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: all the more. As I said, she's pretty cool. I 212 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: love that she was like, I'm gonna be a farmer now, 213 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: and people were like, girl, no, and she's like, watch me, 214 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: and she did. She apparently did very very well in 215 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: that endeavor and had a lot of success with her 216 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: crops and her dairy and living this marvelous, idyllic farmer's life. 217 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: Late in life, she according to Margaret Todd, she also 218 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: fell into that behavior that allegedly I don't know that 219 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: many doctors personally, but you always hear this stereotype that 220 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: doctors are the worst about acknowledging their own health issues. 221 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So we mentioned that she retired in eighteen 222 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: ninety nine because she had issues with her heart. She 223 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: had had a heart attack, oh wow, and recovered from 224 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: it and kind of downplayed it and then had several more, 225 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: and Margaret Todd wrote about like there were times where she, 226 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, would awaken. Presumably Margaret was the one who 227 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: found her the way it's written, but it never says 228 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: like I found her in the kitchen blacked out, But 229 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: she will say like she came to in the kitchen 230 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: blacked out. I'm like, who would know this? But you 231 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: if you lived with her, and she would just be like, 232 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: well that was weird and go on with her day 233 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: like nothing had ever happened, and it would be like 234 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: people were constantly like sofaia, and she'd be like, no, 235 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: let's go check on those apricot trees. Like she just 236 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: was like this is just what it is. Wow. But 237 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: that she did stay very youthful, and she carried on 238 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: that way for you know, quite a number of years. 239 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Don't do that. By the way, we're not saying that's 240 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: a good thing. If you're having medical issues, please see 241 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: a doctor. And then there is one issue that is 242 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: very unclear to me. I kept rereading the passage that thinking, 243 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: am I missing something? Am I skipping a vital sentence 244 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: where she's describing that something happened pretty late in her life, 245 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: like in the last few years of her life, where 246 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: she needed a surgery, but for what I never could surmise. 247 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: And the course of action that Safia Jex Blake took 248 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: was to call two of the students from the medical 249 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: school from her medical school and say, come come to 250 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: my estate. Can you do this surgery on me? And 251 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: they were like no. So she called another doctor that 252 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: she knew, and I think it was a man. He 253 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: came and did it. But it was like what, yeah, 254 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: just like what I mean it speaks to her faith 255 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: in their ability and their education at that point, but 256 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: also like what are you doing? And she apparently recovered 257 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: and had several more great years after that where she 258 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: was very youthful until like just the last couple of 259 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: months of her life. But woof, she's made a strong stuff. Yeah. Anyway, 260 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: I have great admiration obviously, Yeah, great admiration. And we 261 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: got to talk about Bob's Burger's in the the letters 262 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: the listener mail segment, which made me cry yet again. 263 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: That's a very moving episode. Clearly, if it makes us 264 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: all cry just to type or speak anything about it, 265 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: it's a good one. And I think it's very much 266 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: in line with the ideology of Sophia Jex Blake actually right. 267 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: So for anyone who has not watched that yet, that 268 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: episode is real good. If this is your weekend coming up, 269 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: First of all, I feel like I should shout out 270 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: to all medical students and medical practitioners. That's a hard field. 271 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, even if sometimes I argue with you. 272 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: That's a personal shout out to my doctor. And but 273 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: if you have some time off this weekend, one, if 274 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: you have any medical issues and you are able to 275 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: please get them checked out. Two. If you have time off, 276 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: I hope you get some very good relaxation in chill time, 277 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: that you can hang out and eat something delicious and 278 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: be with people you love and not be stressed. That's 279 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: the dream. Really. If you don't have time off, I 280 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: still hope that you can sneak away for a little 281 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: bit of time like that, if it's at all possible, 282 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: And I hope that everybody's cool to you. We will 283 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: be right back here tomorrow with a classic episode, and 284 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: then on Monday we will have something brand new. 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