1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: It's just before seven am on January twenty ninth, twenty 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: twenty five, in Scottsdale, Arizona, willase search war. Arizona has 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: a reputation for relentless heat, but after years of living there, 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: I know better. Winters in the desert can be chilly, 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: and this morning was one of those days. It was 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: forty five degrees and still dark outside. 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: We have a search warn Okay, we're serving on the 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: behalf of the Maricopa County's Attorney's office. 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: You need to open up the door. 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: The Scottsdale Police are at the home of thirty four 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: year old Laura Owens. She and her parents live in 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: one of the most desirable areas of Scottsdale. Think upscale 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: ranch style homes on spacious lots. It's a rare urban 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: neighborhood that still allows horses. But this morning the calm 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: and quiet was interrupted. 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 4: We might entry. 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 5: We're you're contacting the character right now. 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: You're good to move to the. 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Laura lives in a casida on her parents' property, which 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: is kind of like a little studio apartment that's separate 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: from the main house. Through a sliding glass door, officers 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: can see Laura who is already awake and feeding her dogs. 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 5: Laura, scott Stale police. 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 4: Can you see my badge? 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 5: What with the scott step Police department? 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: Okay? 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 5: Can you come out and talk with us police? 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 4: No, the county attorneys have a search warm for your property, 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 4: so we need you to come out. 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry. 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: It's not even seven in the morning. 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 6: That's fine. 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Laura looks incredibly thin, dressed in an oversized Fleetwood mac 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: t shirt and leggings. Her dark hair is pulled back 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: in a ponytail. She's not exactly shocked to see the police, 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: but she is annoyed by their timing. 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: I was told that if the police were going to 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: calm they would come during business hours. Can I call 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: my attorney please? 40 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Laura reaches for her cell phone and calls her attorney, 41 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: David Jingers. 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: David, do you know what's going on right now? 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: The Scottsdale Police are trying to handle this as calmly 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: as possible, but Laura's getting more agitated by the minute. 45 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 5: Our target is very animated at this point. The season 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 5: to come out. She's speaking to us through a. 47 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: Sliding glass door. 48 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 5: We're getting her an. 49 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: Opportunity to talk to her attorneys and they don't have 50 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: to escalate things. 51 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 5: But that's just where we're at right now. 52 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: I'm going o'clock in the morning. She's on speaker with 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: her attorney, and the attorney's advising her. 54 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 5: To come out. 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 7: There's a lot open the door. 56 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: Did you think of authority to search for i'n o'clock 57 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: in the morning. 58 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: With her lawyers? Okay? She slowly opens her screen door 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: and the Scottsdale Police lead her into the main house 60 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: where her parents are waiting. Laura's having a meltdown. 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: I agree. 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 5: I agree. This is so. Laura is a subject of 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 5: an investigation by the courts is regarding that. 64 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 6: Even when it's not even seven o'clock, get pregnant by 65 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 6: the fucking wrestler. 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, as in the hit reality TV show Imagine, 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: one of its stars a former lead at the center 68 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: of a major paternity scandal. The man whose story prompted 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: this early morning police raid is none other than Clayton Eckered. 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: He's one of the most notorious and unpopular bachelors of 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: all time. His season fell to pieces, leaving him single 72 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: and rejected by the woman he'd fallen in love with. 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: After the show, he moved to Scottsdale, Arizona, hoping for 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: a fresh start on the show. Clayton didn't meet his person, 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: but after moving to Arizona, he would meet the person 76 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: that would change the course of his life forever. I'm 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: Stephanie Young and this is Love Trapped Tractic. Nearly two 78 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: years before the police raid, Laura Owens hooked up with 79 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: Clayton eckered and allegedly became pregnant. That is only the 80 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: beginning of the story, a story that is still very 81 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: much going on. It's about how difficult it can be 82 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: to verify the truth, especially when facts are constantly shifting. 83 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 7: Anytime someone doesn't want to give you the full information, 84 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 7: they lose all credibility. 85 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 4: I don't know what she did, but we certainly didn't 86 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: rule out the spit maneuver. The things that she said 87 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: to Clayton, the famous lines about don't want you to 88 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: feel how tight I am and stuff like that. Why 89 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: would she have said that if they had already had sex. 90 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 7: She says, we were sexually intimate. Okay, well, now he's 91 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 7: saying you only had two blowjobs. 92 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 5: Blowjobs don't make babies. 93 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 6: It's like a miracle somehow that she got pregnant. 94 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 7: She could have shot herself in the ass with fertility drugs. 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 6: They hooked up, but they didn't have sex. 96 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 7: Turkey Basters. It's just so chaos. 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: In the end, the man at the center of this 98 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: drama would begin to question everything, setting him on an 99 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: all consuming path to prove the truth. 100 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 5: Hello, this is Clayton speaking. 101 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: Hey Clayton and Stephanie from Glass Podcasts. 102 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 5: How are you today, Hey, Stephanie. I'm doing good. It's 103 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 5: honestly just another slow Friday today. 104 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: When I first heard about this case, it sounded simple, 105 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: but as I began looking into it myself, the twists 106 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: and turns became increasingly strange. So I gave Clayton a call. 107 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: We have emailed back and forth a few times about 108 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: this whole Laura Owen saga and I want to tell 109 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: your story. I want to tell it in a podcast 110 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: and get all the details out there. I know you've 111 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: shared some, but I don't think that you've shared all 112 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: of them yet. 113 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 5: I mean, there's so much I do want it out there, 114 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 5: just full transparency. I just I hope it's told correctly. 115 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: This would be my first of many phone calls with Clayton. 116 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: I live in Chicago now, but I used to call 117 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: Arizona home. It's one of my favorite places. It's where 118 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: I attended college, It's where I got married and began 119 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: my career in radio and podcasting. I was actually in 120 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Arizona shopping for a wedding dress when I first heard 121 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: about this on the news, and I'll be heading back 122 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: there soon to start reporting on this case myself. 123 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: So how do you feel about letting me share your story? 124 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 5: I mean, Stephy, I hope that over time that this 125 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 5: becomes a budding friendship and like I can trust you 126 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 5: and it can be told in the way that it 127 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: needs to be told and how I would like for 128 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 5: it to be told. But I'm going to also just 129 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: again be completely honest because that's how I live my life. 130 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 5: I've been screwed over so many times by producers that 131 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 5: have told me this is how I'm going to be 132 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 5: seen and then it's complete opposite. So, like, is there 133 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 5: a little bit of hesitancy? Yeah, I'm going to definitely 134 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 5: want to be in the know as much as possible. 135 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Clayton's story is an epic battle of he said. She said, 136 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: It's a story about who you believe and why. Over 137 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: the past two years, it's ignited the Internet, becoming a 138 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: kind of viral cautionary tale. Along the way, dozens of citizens, sleuths, 139 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: and armchair investigators joined the conversation, scrutinizing every little detail. 140 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. When the news broke that Clayton 141 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: was part of this paternity scandal, no one believed him 142 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: at first because he was a reality TV star and 143 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: an unpopular one at that. All of a sudden, his 144 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: word was at the center of a case that would 145 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: put him back in the spotlight in a way he 146 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: never expected. 147 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: Just so you know, I have family that lives in Phoenix, 148 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: So next time I'm in Arizona, I'd love to try 149 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 3: to get together and maybe have a conversation to see 150 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 3: how we can tell this story together in a way 151 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: that makes sense. 152 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 5: Honestly, I think that'd be great. I mean, I'm a 153 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 5: huge believer in just face to face interaction, and I 154 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 5: would really like that that way, obviously, we can get 155 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 5: to know one another and understand what seriously we're both 156 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 5: getting into. Because I you were going to be in 157 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 5: over your head. 158 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: And he was right. I had no idea how big 159 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: this story really was. To really understand what's going on here, 160 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: you first have to understand how Clayton was portrayed on 161 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: TV and why he was so unpopular. You see, his 162 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor ended in flames. 163 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: The Rose ceremony from hell. It's one of the most 164 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: memorable moments in the history of the show that basically 165 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: blew up his whole season. 166 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 7: I promise you, when you look back at this. 167 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: This is gonna a hant you. 168 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 5: The fact that you let me go. 169 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: It didn't help that the three final contestants were some 170 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: of the most likable in the entire franchise. Clayton came 171 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: off as almost insensitive, but that's only part of what 172 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: earned him the title of most hated Bachelor ever. He 173 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: left the show in embarrassment. The internet turned on him. 174 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 5: This is going down as an all time bad season. 175 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: He's going down as an all time bad Bachelor. I've 176 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: been saying all season that I think this guy sucks. 177 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: His words and his actions did not line up. 178 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 7: I see any of these people defending this guy, how 179 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 7: many Shame on you. 180 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: And in the end, Clayton was left alone. He was 181 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: at an all time low. 182 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: I was the worst Bachelor ever. At this point, people 183 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: were hating me everything that they were watching on TV. 184 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 5: I thought, how am I ever going to recover from 185 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 5: what I've done. 186 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: I'll admit it. I have always been a fan of 187 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: The Bachelor franchise, but I missed Clayton's season, and it 188 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: turns out a lot of people did. Before I began 189 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: reporting on this story, I went back and watched Clayton's season. 190 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I've got to be honest. While I was definitely entertained, 191 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: it was also a bit of a train wreck. I 192 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: could see why he got the reputation he did. Even 193 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: his brother Nate didn't think he did a very good job. 194 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 5: I wouldn't give him the best grade. I think he 195 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 5: was authentic. I think he was himself, but it just 196 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 5: ended up getting him in more trouble. 197 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: Respectfully, there have been many other Bachelor contestants who have 198 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: actually committed crimes. Clayton's only crime was not being likable. 199 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: He's blunt and truthful, and oftentimes that lands him in 200 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: hot water. 201 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 5: When people watch a show like The Bachelor, they think 202 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 5: that they know you based on what they watch on TV. 203 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 5: And what sucks is that I didn't get a great edit, 204 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 5: and so now people were less likely to want to 205 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 5: rally behind me with this whole cause because they didn't 206 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 5: like me based off of what they saw on TV. 207 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: I had my own preconceived notions about Clayton before I 208 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: met him, kind of thought the same thing a lot 209 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: of people did. He was your typical playboy. I had 210 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: to get to know him myself because the story isn't 211 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: about the bachelor. 212 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 5: Hey, how's it going. 213 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you really are that tall. 214 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 5: I got less with some hight. Good to see you too, 215 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely welcome to the humb little abode. 216 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I met Clayton for the first time last August when 217 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: I was visiting my parents in Arizona. He's a big guy. 218 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: His hands are double the size of mine. He's got 219 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: a killer smile, hazel eyes, and a square jaw. He 220 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: has thick, curly hair most men or women would die for, 221 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: and at six', five he towers over. 222 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 5: ME i drank cream soda growing, up and my parents, 223 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 5: said you, know if you keep drinking, that you're gonna 224 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 5: stunt your. Growth SO i switched over to, milk AND 225 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 5: i think there was hormones in the. Milk all those 226 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 5: hormones were probably pumping up. 227 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: My, Today clayton is a pretty normal. Guy he's in solar, 228 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: sales he's a, realtor he takes hip hop dance, classes 229 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: and he owns and manages An airbnb In. Scottsdale in, 230 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: fact the DAY i met, him he shared his original 231 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: concept of an Optional airbnb add, on where for an additional, 232 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: fee he would personally provide guests with the Private Rose ceremony. 233 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 5: EXPERIENCE i give them the exact same spiel THAT i 234 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 5: would have given to the women on the. Show i'm 235 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 5: so grateful that you all are here tonight's for this incredible. 236 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 5: Moment what a journey we all have. 237 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: Had as a lifelong fan of the. Franchise when he 238 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: recreated This Rose ceremony, moment for, me it was Like 239 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: clayton became The bachelor. 240 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 5: AGAIN i had a videographer here to film all of, 241 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 5: that AND i released it in THE abc hit me 242 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 5: with The Seasoned. 243 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: Assist The Season assist wouldn't be the last of his legal, 244 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: troubles as you'll soon find. Out so how Did clayton 245 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: even get here in the first? Place what was his 246 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: path to becoming The? BACHELOR i wanted to start from the. 247 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: Beginning clayton grew up In, missouri and spent twenty eight 248 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: years of his life. There And clayton is your Normal midwest. 249 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 5: GUY i grew up with my two younger brothers and 250 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 5: we're just a household of, boys and we competed in 251 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: every single, thing from sports to. Grades so a lot 252 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 5: of WHO i am today stems from those early childhood. 253 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: Challenges amongst me and my. 254 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: Brothers clayton says his younger brother outshined. 255 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 5: Him he had a lot of confidence growing up THAT 256 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 5: i never, possessed and so he succeeded at a higher 257 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 5: level than. ME a lot of the girls loved. Him 258 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 5: he was smooth because he didn't overthink. Things, MEANWHILE i 259 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 5: was getting friendzoned by all the girls in my. Grade 260 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 5: even girls in my grade liked my brother more than 261 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 5: they liked. 262 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: Me When clayton got to high, school he was determined 263 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: and to prove. 264 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 5: Himself that's WHEN i, Decided, hey the way THAT i 265 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 5: establish worth is by becoming the best on the football 266 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: field and becoming like the most sought after man THAT 267 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 5: i can. 268 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: Be clayton had a good senior football, season not good 269 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: enough to get a, scholarship but good enough to walk 270 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: on the team at The university Of. 271 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 5: Missouri everyone expected me not to make. It it's A 272 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 5: DIVISION i, program top program in the, state. 273 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: And he made. It he became a tight end on 274 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: the team and even went on to play in THE. 275 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Nfl he was cut early, on but, hey he made. 276 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: It that's what mattered to, him and this experience led 277 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: him to the next chapter in his, career medical device. 278 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 5: Sales they love their, athletes so they're, like, hey we 279 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 5: don't care if you don't have any sales. Experience we love, 280 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: athletes and so they bring me. On SO i get this, 281 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 5: nice great job out of. 282 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: College clayton paid his dues in the industry while living In, Columbia. 283 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: Missouri he was big into fitness and posting his workout 284 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: videos On, instagram but on his twenty eighth, birthday he 285 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: had what he referred to as a quarter life. 286 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 5: CRISIS i had this epiphany WHERE i REALIZED i had 287 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 5: not grown as a person in five. Years that's HOW i. 288 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 5: FELT i was doing the same job That i'd been 289 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 5: doing for the last five. Years, ROMANTICALLY i was just dating. 290 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: CASUALLY i hadn't grown in that regard, whatsoever AND i 291 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: REALIZED i need to get out of this. Environment i'm. 292 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: Stagnant that's when everything changed for. 293 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: HIM i got A dm from a casting producer On. 294 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 5: INSTAGRAM a producer From The bachelor was searching via fitness, 295 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 5: hashtags WHICH i had put on one of my, pictures 296 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: and that's how they found. 297 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Me it wasn't the first time he'd been. Scouted he'd 298 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: been approached to be On Love island and AN Hbo 299 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: christmas dating. Show he turned them both down and told 300 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: his brother that the only show he would considers The. 301 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: Bachelorette but then when the opportunity was actually presented. 302 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 5: To, Him i'm, like there's no WAY i can do. 303 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 5: This so my brother brings it up one day and he's, 304 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 5: like you're you going to go on the? Show AND i, 305 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 5: SAID i don't think. So he, goes, oh so you're 306 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 5: not a man of your. WORD i, said what do you? 307 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 5: Mean he, goes don't you remember that conversation we? Had he, 308 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 5: said you said the one show you would go on 309 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 5: as a. Bachelorette he, goes and so now you're not 310 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 5: going to do, It so you're not a man of a, 311 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 5: Word and that's ALL i. 312 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: Needed he agreed to go On The. Bachelorette he barely 313 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: watched the, show except when he was glancing over his mom's. 314 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 5: Shoulder it was my mom's favorite show growing. Up it 315 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 5: was always on in our. 316 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: House clayton was cast On Michelle young's season Of The 317 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: bachelorette in twenty twenty. One michelle's a natural beauty with 318 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: wavy black. Hair she's a college basketball player turned elementary school. 319 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: Teacher clayton thought she was dropped dead, gorgeous but when 320 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: he got on set for the first, time he was 321 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: overwhelmed by the production of it. 322 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 5: ALL i will never forget my first night BEFORE i 323 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 5: walked onto reality. Television he was. 324 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: A nervous wreck when he got out of the limo 325 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: to Meet. 326 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: MICHELLE i step out the. Limo lights are blinding. Me they, 327 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 5: said if you mess, up keep. Going there are no. 328 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 5: Redos when the cameras were thrown on, me it was 329 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 5: just a. SHOCK i was in that, moment wondering IF 330 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 5: i was swaying my arms too much WHILE i was. 331 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 5: Walking that's how hyper FIXATED i was on the minute, 332 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 5: things because all of a, sudden in that, moment you're 333 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 5: like nothing is, hidden everything is out, there. 334 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: And things didn't get any better once he met the 335 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: other guys. 336 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: First GUY i see ends up being the guy that 337 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: won the whole. Thing he's six foot, eight light, skin 338 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 5: looks like a. Model i'm, like, Oh i'm. Done there's 339 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 5: no Way i'm gonna make this last longer than one 340 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: night if this is my. 341 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: Competition clayton made it past night, one but he didn't 342 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: get a lot of screen. 343 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 5: Time it was hardly Any it was like eight minutes. Max. 344 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: Maybe ultimately he was sent home before hometown. Dates michelle 345 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: walked into the limo and he was driven off the, 346 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: set but the next Morning clayton was called for one 347 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: final exit. Scene michelle was an elementary school, teacher and 348 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: earlier in the, Episode clayton met two of her. Students 349 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: he was brought in to shoot a final scene where 350 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: the two kids gave him handwritten goodbye. Letters we Watched 351 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: clayton read each letter and well up with. 352 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: Tears it was surprising because you are super genuine AND 353 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: i liked you a, lot AND i know you'd be 354 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 5: a really great husband for Miss. Young you will probably 355 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 5: meet someone else and fall in love and have lots 356 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 5: of kids and be a great. 357 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: Dat clayton didn't realize it in the, moment but this 358 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: scene was his screen test to be The. Bachelor this 359 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: is one to. 360 00:19:52,600 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 5: Find love so badly AND i have a, Family, Well 361 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 5: i'll do whatever it takes in. 362 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: Them he nailed, it and then his producer made the. 363 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: Offer they wanted him to be the Next. Bachelor Even 364 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: clayton was. 365 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 5: SURPRISED i got sent home with seven guys ahead of, 366 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 5: me SO i figured that wasn't even. Contention so when 367 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 5: he said, THAT i was, like, Yeah i'll do. 368 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: It clayton said something that stood out to. Me he 369 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: was sent home earlier in the season than most future, 370 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: leads so picking him was kind of a strange. CHOICE 371 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: i wanted some insight on, this SO i turned To Reality. 372 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: Steve he's a, podcaster, blogger and de facto authority on 373 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: The bachelor. Franchise he knows how the show works behind the. 374 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: Scenes here's why he thinks the show Casts clayton as the. 375 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: Lead my guess was to control, him a guy that 376 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 4: they could clearly, See, hey he's going to do what 377 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: we tell him to do because he's so grateful for this. 378 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: Opportunity the thing, Is clayton was grateful for the. 379 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 5: Opportunity it was validation THAT i was, special which the 380 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 5: people pleaser and me was always. Chasing so to have 381 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: that moment come to a place where it was, like 382 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 5: we want you to be the. GUY i was, Like 383 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 5: i'm the, guy and you don't just become the guy 384 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 5: without having a whole track record of. 385 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: Success he finally found the validation he was looking, for 386 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: but he didn't realize that once you invite the world, 387 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: in you can't tell them when to. 388 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 5: Leave i'll never forget. This producer looks at me and she, 389 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 5: goes take this moment in because this is the last 390 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 5: moment of silence that you'll likely have in your life 391 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: for a long. Time if, ever that's the MOMENT i, 392 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 5: remember because my life has never been the same since that. 393 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 5: Point the noise has never. 394 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: Stopped clayton began filming his season of The bachelor in 395 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: Late september of twenty twenty, one and he was ready 396 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: to find. 397 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: Love POINT i was so overcome with just. Excitement what 398 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: is my? Life this isn't even. Real pinch, me but 399 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 5: don't actually pinch, me because if this is a, DREAM 400 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 5: i don't want to wake up from. It that's how 401 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 5: grateful and EXCITED i. WAS i was just soaking it 402 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: all in AND i felt Like i'm going to give 403 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 5: everyone the love story that they're looking, for BECAUSE i 404 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 5: got the genuine heart that's actually looking for something. Serious 405 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 5: this is gonna be a fairy tale. Ending i'm going 406 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 5: to write off at the sunset and be the hero 407 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: that everybody was anticipating i'd, be or it wants me to. 408 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 5: Be that's WHAT i believed was going to. HAPPEN i 409 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 5: really believed that up until like the last. Week where 410 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 5: the fuck DID i go? 411 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: Wrong so here's what. Happened When clayton got down to the, 412 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: finalists he broke an unspoken rule of The, bachelor which 413 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: is the show doesn't really work if you tell all 414 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: the finalists you're in love with, them especially while they're 415 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: all standing in front of. 416 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 5: YOU i still to this, DAY i didn't REALIZE i 417 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 5: was an untold. RULE i believe in radical. Honesty it's 418 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 5: probably gotten me and actually has gotten me in trouble 419 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 5: more than a few times in my. 420 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: Life not only Did clayton admit to falling in love 421 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: with all of the, finalists he also revealed that he'd 422 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: had sex with two of. Them here's what he. Said 423 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: he was. 424 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 5: Thinking every emotion was rushing. In it was a LOT i, 425 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 5: MEAN i was so drained at that. POINT i had 426 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 5: a mix of frustration with myself. Sadness to see the 427 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: looks on the faces of the. WOMEN i realized that 428 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 5: things were going and the exact opposite direction THAT i 429 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 5: planned for them to. 430 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: Go The Rose ceremony From hell was filmed In, iceland 431 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: And clayton's parents and two brothers were there. Too while 432 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: it was being, filmed his family was out to dinner 433 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: with some of the show's, producers who were getting frantic 434 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: texts from the production. Team Here's clayton's, Dad. 435 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: Brian even the producer told me WHEN i was sitting 436 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: in a room with. Her she, goes you, know mister, 437 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: record your son gave us some great. Material unfortunately it's 438 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: just gonna look like. Shit she, GOES i don't know 439 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: why anybody to save. Him it was, like, well we'll 440 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: see what it looks like when it comes. 441 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: Out the producers were, right it didn't look good For 442 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: clayton in the. End there were three. Women the first Was, 443 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: rachel a radiant blonde who was also a. Pilot next 444 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: Was Gabby, wendy a nurse and FORMER nfl cheerleader with 445 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: a quick. Wit she's since become a pop culture icon 446 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: who you might have seen On The traders And dancing 447 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: with The. Stars when she was On clayton's season Of The, 448 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: bachelor she was not happy with how he handled. 449 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 8: Himself i'm pissed BECAUSE i spent the last two days 450 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 8: away from my family and my friends who actually get 451 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 8: the bit about me and you. 452 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: Don't that was. Rough then there Was. Susie she was 453 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: a wedding, photographer Former Miss virginia, actually and she was 454 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: the One clayton was leaning. Towards But susie decided to 455 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: leave the competition. Early right before the, finale she got 456 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: cold feet about getting. Engaged in a very unusual and risky, 457 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: Move clayton sent the other two finalists. Home he wanted 458 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: to propose To, susie and, surprise, surprise she was still In. 459 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: Iceland so he made a grand gesture and asked her 460 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: to come to the final rose. Ceremony she agreed to show, 461 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: up and when he handed her the, rose she said 462 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: what no other contestant has ever said. 463 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 8: BEFORE i have made the decision to Leave iceland. Alone 464 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 8: it doesn't like take away from everything that we've had 465 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 8: and the love THAT i genuinely feel in my heart for. 466 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: You in other, words she said. NO i Asked clayton, 467 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: if in that moment he regretted becoming The. 468 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 5: Bachelor, yes one thousand. PERCENT i Wish i'd never answered 469 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 5: THAT dm WHEN i, yeah, Absolutely that's HOW i. 470 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: Felt clayton told me that he felt like the producers 471 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: pushed him to develop a strong connection with more than one, 472 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: woman and they encouraged him to try that last ditch 473 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: effort With. 474 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 5: SUSIE i felt like the producers were trying to lead 475 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: me and potentially produced me into reacting a certain, way 476 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 5: and SO i started to, question are we on the same, Team, 477 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 5: like AM i able to really just do WHAT i? 478 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 5: Want or is there some type of motive here from 479 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 5: you all THAT i need to fall in line. 480 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: With it's telling That clayton didn't realize this until the. 481 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: End here's, Reality. 482 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: Steve they took advantage of a naive guy who didn't 483 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 4: know television and didn't know the process of this show 484 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: and had a field day with. 485 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: Him shortly After clayton returned from filming the, show he 486 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 1: received A dm From susie On instagram asking if they 487 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: could talk about what happened In iceland And clayton. 488 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 5: Agreed we had a three hour conversation that night and 489 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 5: talked a lot about producer involvement and how it stopped 490 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 5: us from being able to pursue the relationship. 491 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: Further susie felt the same way that producers forced them 492 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: into a. Decision at the, end. 493 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 6: It just felt like producers got really, involved AND i 494 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 6: felt like the whole situation felt manipulated and, orchestrated AND 495 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 6: i didn't know who to trust, anymore whether it was 496 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 6: not Trusting clayton or, producers AND i was, LIKE i 497 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 6: just need to leave. 498 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: Here after that, conversation they decided to reconnect and give 499 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: the relationship a go on their own terms without. Cameras 500 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: But america couldn't know yet because the show hadn't. Premiered 501 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: Living Through it had been one. Thing Then clayton joined 502 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: the millions Of americans watching his season play out ON. 503 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: Tv it did not go well the premiere. 504 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 5: Trailer it started off all, happy go, lucky and then 505 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 5: the back half of the trailer they just showed everything blowing. 506 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: Up they showed that clearly there's no love story. Here 507 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 5: it's full, drama and they set me up for failure 508 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: right out the. 509 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: Gate and the internet was. Ruthless clayton knew it had been, 510 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: bad he didn't know it had been this. 511 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 5: Bad so many of those people that sent me death 512 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 5: threats told me THAT i never deserve, love told me 513 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 5: that they would put a bullet in my head if 514 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: they ever saw me in, person tell Me i'm, stupid. 515 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: Ugly my physique was, attacked my actions were, attacked and 516 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 5: it's like they all forgot THAT i was a. Human i'm, like, 517 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 5: Guys i'm still a human. Being this stuff. 518 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: Hurts the show provided mental health resources for as long 519 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: As clayton needed. 520 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 5: Them it's just a shame because you would hope that 521 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 5: you wouldn't have to ever utilize them in the first. 522 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Place clayton knew he wasn't, perfect but as the finale, 523 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: approached the online hate took its toll on. 524 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 5: Him my mental health was the worst it's ever been 525 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 5: in my. LIFE i, thought wouldn't it better IF i just wasn't. 526 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 5: Here there was a point WHERE i focus in on 527 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 5: the closed drawer in front of me that had my 528 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 5: pistol inside the, drawer AND i start having the thought 529 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 5: just that it's, there AND i felt weak in that, 530 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 5: moment AND i almost felt guilty, for you, know even considering, 531 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 5: that BECAUSE i thought there's no WAY i could ever 532 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 5: put this type of pain in my, family AND i 533 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 5: knew at that, POINT i was, LIKE i got to 534 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 5: get out of this. Environment this is not. 535 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Good clayton reached out to The bachelor producers for. 536 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: HELP i, SAID i am in a terrible place right. 537 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 5: Now i'm having extremely dark. THOUGHTS i feel. WORTHLESS i need. 538 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: Support he desperate wanted to see his Girlfriend, susie but 539 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: the rules were if they wanted to meet in, person 540 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: they had to go through producers, first since the show 541 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: was still. Airing susie was genuinely worried about. Him Here's. 542 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 6: Susie at the, time he didn't mention the gun in the, 543 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 6: drawer BUT i remember also calling producers at the same 544 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 6: time AND i, said, HEY i really think something is 545 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 6: very wrong AND i don't think he should be alone right. 546 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 5: Now thankfully they understood the severity of. It they got 547 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: me out on a red, eye they got her out 548 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 5: on a red, eye AND i then had at Least 549 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 5: susie there to support. 550 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: Me, soon during the live, Finale america would find out 551 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: the truth About clayton And susie's. Relationship are you guys back? 552 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 5: Together that's my. 553 00:30:53,440 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: Boyfriend you'd think this news would have Started clayton's redemption. 554 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Arc he And susie did end up together after, all 555 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: but that's not what. Happened the online trolls started to 556 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: come For susie. 557 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 6: TOO i received some of the most, like, disgusting, graphic 558 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 6: nasty Messages i've ever received in my life after the final. 559 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: Show that was a lot to go. Through susie felt 560 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: like The bachelor left them out to dry and let 561 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: them take the fall for producers. Decisions there's a. 562 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 6: Lot of criticism On clayton on how things, happened AND 563 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 6: i think some of that is deserved and some of 564 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 6: it is also, like, okay we have to take a 565 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 6: step back and recognize that there's a whole production behind. 566 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: It when the show, Wrapped clayton And susie had to 567 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: deal with being a publicly hated. Couple their relationship wasn't 568 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: celebrated like Most bachelor, couples and their social media accounts 569 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: were spammed with hate. Comments they were both just trying 570 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: to feel normal again after nine months of dating under 571 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: intense online, Scrutiny clayton And susie decided to call it. 572 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 6: QUITS i think our relationship was just too tumultuous to. 573 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 6: Last LIKE i think that we went through something really 574 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 6: really traumatic together and that could have brought us. Closer 575 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 6: but we both were two people that went through something 576 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 6: really really hard and we just didn't have the toolkit 577 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 6: to like make it. 578 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 5: Work WHEN i lost, HER i lost a, rock you, 579 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 5: KNOW i lost somebody that really fully understood. 580 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: Me he took the breakup, hard so we spent the 581 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: next year working on. Himself at the end of twenty twenty, 582 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: Two clayton wanted a fresh. 583 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 5: START i moved To, Scottsdale, arizona which is the hot. 584 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 5: Spot there is so much happening. Here it's very close 585 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 5: to all The West coast. 586 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Cities having lived, THERE i can tell you it's kind 587 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: of a party, town. 588 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 5: Very fast, paced a lot of, distractions a lot of 589 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 5: problems as. 590 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: Well it's almost fitting At scottsdale is one of the 591 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: most popular destinations for bachelorette. 592 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 5: Parties WHEN i got To, SCOTTSTOWE i didn't have dating 593 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 5: on my. MIND i HAD i had a big old party, 594 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 5: mindset AND i, THOUGHT i get to be, single AND 595 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 5: i get to be single as The, bachelor Former, bachelor 596 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 5: And i'm going to just milk this moment And i'm 597 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 5: going to have my. 598 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: Fun he thought it would be smooth sailing now That 599 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: The bachelor was behind. Him damn was he. Wrong after 600 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: a nightmarish stint in the public, Eye Clayton eckerd began 601 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: building a new life In, Scottsdale. Arizona In april of 602 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, three he announced On instagram that he got 603 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: his real estate. License he figured that his notoriety from 604 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: the Show i'd even help him launch his. CAREER a 605 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: few short weeks, later he got a message On LinkedIn 606 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: from a potential real estate, client someone Named Laura. 607 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 5: Owens The LinkedIn message, Said, Hi i'm looking to connect 608 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 5: with similar minded young entrepreneurs In. SCOTTSDALE i see that 609 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 5: you work for the AND i actually contacted them. Recently 610 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 5: they were going to connect me with someone who could 611 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: help me find investment, properties but haven't. Yet let me 612 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 5: know if you can. 613 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Help Laura's LinkedIn profile didn't have a, photo But clayton's. 614 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 5: Did it was My bachelor, photo the photo From night 615 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 5: one of The. 616 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: Bachelor you'd think that her not having a photo might 617 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: be a red flag. Right, Well clayton saw it. 618 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 5: DIFFERENTLY i, Figured i'm the, bachelor AND i have a 619 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 5: level of fame to. Me this is not at all that's. 620 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 5: SURPRISING i, MEAN i had people that came up to 621 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 5: me once at a coffee shop and said they wanted 622 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 5: to work with me in real. Estate SO i exchanged 623 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 5: my contact info with her to get in front of 624 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: her so THAT i could hopefully get my first real 625 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 5: estate deal. 626 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: Done And laura didn't waste any. 627 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 5: Time the text messages started right, away constant, texting and 628 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 5: she knew a lot about real, estate more THAN i 629 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 5: even knew BECAUSE i just got my. License SO i 630 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: felt LIKE i was trying to play keep up with. 631 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: Her laura was asking all the right, questions But clayton 632 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: also realized she was testing the. 633 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 5: Waters at, first she was flirting a. BED i was 634 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 5: keeping it very. Professional was twenty thousand dollars commission on the, 635 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 5: line good amount of, money AND i was trying to 636 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 5: keep the transaction going. 637 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: ALONG i sat down With clayton and had him walk 638 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: me through the printouts of their initial. Messages you mentioned 639 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: she was flirting with you a little. Bit can you 640 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: read one of those messages and kind of give me 641 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: an example of what you're talking. 642 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 5: About in all, honesty, THOUGH i had a great time 643 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 5: talking to you and would actually love to get a 644 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 5: drink with you next week if you want. 645 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: To and how did you handle that? 646 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 5: FLIRTATION i, Thought i'll just continue to be, professional push this, 647 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 5: along let her feel however she, feels and if she 648 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 5: wants to flirt here and, there whatever we can let that. 649 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: Be so you told me your profile picture was the 650 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: photo of you from The. Bachelor do you think she 651 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: had any idea of who you? 652 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 5: WERE i don't think she did know WHO i. WAS i, 653 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 5: mean of, course you, know she could have googled me 654 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 5: and found out very, quickly but based on what she 655 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 5: had said to me and her, TONALITY i assumed that 656 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 5: she didn't. 657 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: Know, Okay so then you thought she was flirting with, 658 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: you not because you were famous or the Former, bachelor 659 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: but because you're you a, tall thirty something year old guy. 660 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 5: HANDSOME i, mean, HEY i appreciate all those, compliments but, 661 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 5: YEAH i, mean, TRUTHFULLY i just, thought, like, yeah she 662 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 5: Thinks i'm, Attractive, okay no big. Deal i'm just really 663 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 5: fixated on getting my first real estate deal done and 664 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 5: starting a new chapter out here in Scott still and 665 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 5: also just having people see me for WHAT i truly, 666 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 5: am not what was shown ON, tv which was produced and. 667 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: Edited clayton set up some showings For laura later that, 668 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: week and the flirtatious messages. 669 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 5: Continued and, then obviously there was a turn of. Events one. 670 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: Night clayton had just moved into a new. Apartment that, 671 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: evening he went To, ikea ordered a, pizza and started 672 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: to put his new furniture. 673 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 5: Together SO i took this edible And laura was texting, 674 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 5: me SO i sent her a text. 675 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: Back this was three days After laura's initial message To. 676 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: Clayton at that, Point clayton started to feed into the. 677 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: Flirting Then laura made a bold. Move she sent a. 678 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 5: Photo the SECOND i got that, PHOTO i was, like, 679 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 5: okay well the logical brain kicked. 680 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: Off clayton invited her to come. 681 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,959 Speaker 5: Over she was a little hesitant at. FIRST i think 682 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 5: she was surprised THAT i was inviting her, over but 683 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 5: then she decided that she would come. 684 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: Over from, there the exact details of what happened that 685 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: night are only known to two, People clayton And. Laura 686 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: as we continue this, series we'll hear a few different 687 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: versions of what allegedly went, down but we're going to 688 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: start With clayton's. 689 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 5: Version that, NIGHT i was looking for a hook up 690 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 5: one thousand. PERCENT i assumed we both were on the 691 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 5: same page because she was coming over at eight o'clock 692 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 5: at night on A. Friday we know why you're. Coming 693 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 5: you just sent me a photo of your. 694 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: Ass, technically she's wearing leggings in the. Photo i've seen 695 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: a copy of, it and if you can believe, it 696 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: this picture would later be released as part of an 697 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: investigation report by The Maricopa County Attorney's. Office to call 698 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: a spade a, spade the photo looks like a thirst. 699 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 1: Trap that, Night laura arrived At clayton's. Apartment they started 700 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: talking and getting to know each other a little. 701 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 5: Better i'll be honest with, you all of the conversation was, 702 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 5: forgettable and then probably after an hour hour and a, 703 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 5: HALF i told her to come over closer to, me 704 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 5: and she, did and then that's when we started hooking. 705 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: Up it's awkward to go into these details With, clayton 706 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: but they all become critical to this. Story SO i 707 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: asked him to define what he means when he says 708 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: he And laura started hooking. 709 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 5: UP i don't know how descriptive you want me to, 710 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 5: get but, like there was no penis and vagina. 711 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: Penetration laura spent the night and left early the next. 712 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 5: Morning eleven days, LATER i received a message From laura 713 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 5: stating that she was pregnant and attached was a photo 714 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 5: of a positive pregnancy. 715 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: Test clayton couldn't believe. 716 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 5: It and there's no way that she could have been 717 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 5: pregnant because we did not have. SEX i mean not 718 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 5: in the way that would get you. 719 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: Pregnant everything that happens next all comes back to this 720 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: one night and two. Blowjobs on one of our first phone, 721 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: calls you said THAT i was going to be in 722 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: over my, head And i'm kind of understand a little 723 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: bit why you said, that but, like what did you? 724 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 5: Mean once you get fully caught up to speed and 725 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 5: over your head just doesn't do a. Justice every time 726 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 5: you think it couldn't get, crazier it just. Does you 727 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 5: have the dating, contract you have forged medical. Documents there 728 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 5: are so many layers to this story that you peel. 729 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 5: Back one couldn't get. Crazier oh, surprise there's another, layer 730 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 5: and it just keeps going for straining, orders a criminal, 731 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 5: investigation and also just the hope that at the end 732 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 5: of it, all someone's going to be held. 733 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: Accountable this season On Love, Trapped. 734 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 5: Hey, clayton this is not your typical naked video of 735 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 5: a woman trying to impress. You my life is. Ruined 736 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 5: everything That i'm working towards is. 737 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 7: Gone this is either the craziest story of a bachelor 738 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 7: villain or the biggest scam is. Happening it's one or the. 739 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: Other i'm not the. 740 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 5: Devil i'm genuinely not wanting to cause any trouble in your. 741 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 5: Life this is where it was a whirlwind of text. 742 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 5: Messages she's probably text me twenty five thirty times a. 743 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 7: Day it's hard to explain to somebody how the hairs 744 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 7: on your neck immediately go up when you see you 745 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 7: get an email From Laura. Owens no privacy, anymore no, 746 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 7: reputation no. 747 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: NAME i can't even count how many armchair investigators who 748 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: did ten times better than ANY PI i have ever. 749 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 7: Hired we need, accountability and more, importantly we need. Protection 750 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 7: no human could imagine another person would fake something that 751 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 7: is so. 752 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 5: Sensitive the crazy thing about all of this is IF 753 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 5: i was not the. Bachelor none of this would have 754 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 5: happened to. 755 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 3: Me. 756 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: Tratt thank you so much for. 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