WEBVTT - The Playboy Mystique

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<v Speaker 1>Why uzzy media productions. The minority of women's liberationists was

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets across the country. In the end, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of came to understand that in many ways, women

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<v Speaker 1>are all bunnies. I enjoy women, I enjoy being women

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<v Speaker 1>with women very much, constantly surrounded by gorgeous girls and

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful belongings. Hefner's world may seem enviable to some. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a very lucky fellow. With whatever problems or conflicts I've

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<v Speaker 1>had in my life, I've managed to pursue and fulfill

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<v Speaker 1>most all of my dreams. I personally would not want

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<v Speaker 1>to go down in history as who happening On the

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<v Speaker 1>night of March, two major social movements in America collided

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<v Speaker 1>on live television. It wasn't on the news, It was

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<v Speaker 1>on a late night talk show. But it's nineteen seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost everyone on stage whereas bell bottomed trousers and some

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<v Speaker 1>shade of brown or orange, the set is adorned with

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<v Speaker 1>red upholstered chairs and walls. Dick Cavitt, the sandy haired

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<v Speaker 1>host with bushy sideburns, announces his final two guests of

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<v Speaker 1>the evening. There are a lot of women in this

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<v Speaker 1>country who feel like they're being pushed around, and they

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<v Speaker 1>become very vocal. They call themselves the Women's Liberation movement,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have two representatives in that movement here tonight. There,

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<v Speaker 1>Cavot invites Susan Brown Miller and Sally Kimpton out on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>The two prominent feminists sit down just a few feet

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<v Speaker 1>from the show's previous guest, another man with sideburns, one

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<v Speaker 1>who is smoking his trademark pipe and grinning like a

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<v Speaker 1>cheshire cat. That man is Hugh Hefner or hef as Cavit,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of America calls him. The founder of Playboy magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the walking, talking embodiment of the sexual revolution, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least the red blooded male side of it. Cabot

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<v Speaker 1>sets things off when he asked brown Miller a pointed question,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think men are doing wrong? They oppress

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<v Speaker 1>us as women, they won't let us be and Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner is my enemy? Who really set you up today?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more in sympathy than perhaps you know. The girls

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<v Speaker 1>realized with I'm sorry, Then the ladies realize I am used.

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<v Speaker 1>Girls referring to women of roll agents should suddenly the

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<v Speaker 1>man responsible for dressing young women up as playboy bunnies

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<v Speaker 1>and his clubs is getting dressed down on national television

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<v Speaker 1>by a woman. It's the kind of confrontation that happens

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<v Speaker 1>all the time on talk shows today. But Cabot's audience

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what to make of it, and Brown Miller

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<v Speaker 1>is just getting warmed up. Don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You make them look like animals. Yes, women aren't buddies,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not rabbits, they're human beings. It's Hefner now, who

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<v Speaker 1>resembles an animal one frozen in the headlights, went oncoming

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<v Speaker 1>train and then the knockout blow the day that you

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to come out here with a cotton tail

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<v Speaker 1>attached to your rear end. Heffner is visibly flustered by

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<v Speaker 1>the assault and sits back in his chair. He pulls

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<v Speaker 1>out a match and lights his pipe. The audience revels

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<v Speaker 1>in the drama and his discomfort, And there were some

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<v Speaker 1>feminists in the audience who sort of rushed the stage

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<v Speaker 1>during the broadcast, and Dick Cavitt had to sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, restore order. This is Heffner biographer Stephen Watts.

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<v Speaker 1>People were brought in to calm everybody down. Then it

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<v Speaker 1>was quite the big deal. Cabot would later apologize for

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<v Speaker 1>the charged encounter to Heffner. This turned into a roast

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<v Speaker 1>Haffner evening, I have a sorry today on the Thread

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Heffner, Playboy icon enemy. This is the Thread a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast from Aussie media where we explore the interconnecting lives

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<v Speaker 1>and events of history. I'm Sean braswell. This season we

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<v Speaker 1>pull the thread on the feminist leader Gloria Steinham. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the turning points in Steinham's career, as we heard

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<v Speaker 1>an episode one, was her assignment as a young reporter

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<v Speaker 1>to go undercover as a Playboy Bunny. The experience opened

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<v Speaker 1>her eyes to the realization that all women could be

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<v Speaker 1>considered playboy bunnies. The man behind the Playboy Club and

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<v Speaker 1>its bunnies was another legendary magazine founder and a very

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<v Speaker 1>different sort of American icon, Hugh Heffner. In this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we trace Steinham's story back to the exclusive universe that

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner created, to its early days, and to the Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>legend who inadvertently helped Heffner launch Playboy in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Heffner's death last year marked the end of an era.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Heffner, the publisher of Playboy, has died at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of ninety one, and Hugh there was a Playboy

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<v Speaker 1>till the very end, borrowing lavish parties well into his eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Heffner's extravagant lifestyle and outspoken views on sex were controversial

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<v Speaker 1>while he is alive, and no less so after his death.

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner considered himself to be a rebel an activist and

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<v Speaker 1>to progress it. What Heffner was was a man on

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<v Speaker 1>a mission to alter society's conservative views on sex, politics

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<v Speaker 1>and social equality. Many had a far different conception of

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<v Speaker 1>Heffner by the end of his life. One New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times calumnist wrote after his death that the Playboy founder

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<v Speaker 1>was a lecherous, low brow Peter Payne ice cream for breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>pajamas all day while bodyguards shoot male celebrities away from

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<v Speaker 1>his paid harem. Or, as Gloria Steinham puts it, if

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<v Speaker 1>I had made him up and put him in a novel,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be hung from the highest tree because he

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<v Speaker 1>was such a parody of himself. He was pathetic. Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Heffner changed the world, but the world also changed on

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Hefner. Heffner saw himself at the vanguard of the

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<v Speaker 1>sexual revolution occurring in the mid twentieth century, not only

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<v Speaker 1>as a participant but also a catalyst Stephen Watts. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>Heffner was convinced, I think, probably with some justification, that

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<v Speaker 1>he had played a very large role in the sexual

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<v Speaker 1>revolution and in sort of loosening the sexual mores and

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<v Speaker 1>values of American society. And he grew more bitter as

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<v Speaker 1>the years went by when others did not recognize his handiwork.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Russell Miller, a journalist and author of Bunny,

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<v Speaker 1>The Real Story of Playboy. He did have a strong

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<v Speaker 1>sense of resentment that he wasn't being sufficiently lauded for

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<v Speaker 1>what he'd done. That he eventually said that it was

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<v Speaker 1>Playboy that liberated America, but which part of America. Playboy

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<v Speaker 1>was no different from any other pop culture fixture of

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties and sixties. It reinforced the primacy of

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<v Speaker 1>men in American society. Hefner was selling something that advertisers

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<v Speaker 1>were willing to support. Gloria Steinham again, he would never

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<v Speaker 1>publish of an article or a story, even a fictional story,

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<v Speaker 1>in which women want quote unquote, Heffner said, we think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a man's world, or should be. And yet he

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised when his relationship with America's growing women's movement

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<v Speaker 1>became contentious. And I think he was genuinely stunned in

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<v Speaker 1>the late sixties and early seventies when modern feminists begin

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<v Speaker 1>to paint him as being an oppressor, an oppressor of

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<v Speaker 1>women uh. And Heffner frankly didn't quite know what to

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<v Speaker 1>make of this. He had always sort of viewed himself

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<v Speaker 1>as liberating uh women as well as men for sexual experience. Heffner,

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<v Speaker 1>to his dismay, found himself the whipping boy of the

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<v Speaker 1>women's movement, and not just on the Dick Cabot Show. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he served Hefner as a kind of foil

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<v Speaker 1>for the feminist revolution in that I think because of

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<v Speaker 1>the magazine and the images and his personal prominence, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>he became some one who was a very convenient and

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<v Speaker 1>easy target as a kind of boogeyman. Hefner fought back.

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<v Speaker 1>Not long after the encounter on the Dick Cabott Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner responded by taking the war to the pages of Playboy.

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<v Speaker 1>He assigned an article to a male reporter to write

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<v Speaker 1>about the women's movement, and uh when it came in

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<v Speaker 1>and it was at all accurate, he wrote a memo,

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<v Speaker 1>which then one of the women there leaked out. Hefner

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<v Speaker 1>spelled out in the memo the kind of story he

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<v Speaker 1>was looking for. These chicks are our natural enemy. What

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<v Speaker 1>I want is a devastating piece that takes the militant

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<v Speaker 1>feminists apart. Gloria Steinhum, who first exposed the Playboy clubs

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<v Speaker 1>as an undercover reporter, when after Heffner again she released

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<v Speaker 1>the leak memo to the media. She hoped it would

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<v Speaker 1>prompt a backlash and show Heffner's true colors. The memo

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<v Speaker 1>fell on deaf ears even laughter. Hefner and his feminist

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<v Speaker 1>critics were not in fact total enemies. They had more

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<v Speaker 1>in common than either cared to admit. They're on the

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<v Speaker 1>same side when it came to big issues like free speech,

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights, and reproductive freedom. Playboy was the first major

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<v Speaker 1>U S magazine to advocate for the right to legal

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<v Speaker 1>abortions on demand. It published letters from women describing the

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<v Speaker 1>emotional and physical trauma they had experienced from seeking illegal abortions,

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<v Speaker 1>but Hefner remained opposed to the women he called militant

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<v Speaker 1>feminists for a long time. So feminism I think was

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<v Speaker 1>something that was a sore point with Hefner. I think

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies and eighties and nineties, says he got older. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he reconciled himself to this a lot more,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think by the end of his life he

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<v Speaker 1>considered himself to be a feminist. Most today would not

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<v Speaker 1>think of Hefner as a feminist. His record is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit complicated, says his biographer Stephen Watts. Honest, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you Hefner's impact on on women in modern America. It's

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<v Speaker 1>something of a mixed record. On the one hand, Hefner

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<v Speaker 1>supported feminism in terms of equality before the law says what.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, he made no effort to conceal

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<v Speaker 1>how he made women into sex objects. But actually I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Hefner about this, because he said, of course

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<v Speaker 1>women are sexual objects for men in the same way

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<v Speaker 1>that men are sexual objects for women. He said, The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is is if you only objectify women, if you

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<v Speaker 1>only see them as sex objects, and that's the rub.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the rub for Playboy too. How

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<v Speaker 1>did Heffner wind up the enemy of so many women?

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<v Speaker 1>Up next, we go back to the early days of Playboy,

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<v Speaker 1>when Hefner transformed his controversial magazine into a global empire

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<v Speaker 1>and transformed himself in the process. Playboy Magazine was an

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<v Speaker 1>instant success when it launched in nineteen fifty three. The

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<v Speaker 1>very fierce issue of the magazine was was very popular

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<v Speaker 1>and it sold out pretty quickly. From what I gather,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the most successful launches of a

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<v Speaker 1>magazine in modern American history. The nineteen fifties were a

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<v Speaker 1>time of abundance in America and the currents of the

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<v Speaker 1>sexual revolution were just beginning to stir. I think Hefner

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<v Speaker 1>and in his notion of Playboy, really fell into the

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<v Speaker 1>culture at precisely the time when the culture was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of ready to receive it. So right guy, right idea

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<v Speaker 1>of right time. The majority of the magazine's readers were

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<v Speaker 1>men between the ages of twenty and thirty four. In

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<v Speaker 1>the primary attraction, the nude centerfold known as the playmate

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<v Speaker 1>of the month. This is Russell Miller again the playmates

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<v Speaker 1>in in um Playboy was always the wholesome girl next door,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of girl that you could take out and

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<v Speaker 1>not worry about. You wouldn't mind introducing to your Mom.

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<v Speaker 1>The humorous Mortzol once equipped that an entire generation of

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<v Speaker 1>American men grew up thinking that women came with a

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<v Speaker 1>staple in their midsection. Others were not as amused. Television

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<v Speaker 1>host Mike Wallace interviewed Heffner in nineteen fifty six and

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<v Speaker 1>suggested that he was selling quote, high class dirty book.

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner responded, there's nothing dirty in sex unless we make

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<v Speaker 1>it dirty. Within a few years of Playboy's launch, Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner was a different man. Well. Playbook magazine changed Hefner's

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<v Speaker 1>life dramatically when it became very, very successful, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of blasted off into the cultural stratosphere. Hefner

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<v Speaker 1>threw himself into his work. He really did begin to

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<v Speaker 1>live at the office. He had a separate bedroom suite

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<v Speaker 1>sort of built off his office, and he stayed there.

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<v Speaker 1>He rarely went home. Hefner used his office bedroom or

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<v Speaker 1>other activities as well. He began to spend a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time around rather fetching young women. Uh He began

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<v Speaker 1>to have liaisons and affairs with a number of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and his marriage slowly began to crumble, and so Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner decided to reinvent himself. He made a very conscious

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<v Speaker 1>decision that he would become Mr. Playboy. He would become

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that was being idealized in Playboy magazine. Heffner

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<v Speaker 1>started to smoke a pipe, he dressed better. He surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>himself with beautiful women, and he made no effort to

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<v Speaker 1>hide it. I enjoy women. I enjoy being women with

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<v Speaker 1>women very much. Most of the girls that I date

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<v Speaker 1>are several years younger than I am eighteen to probably

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<v Speaker 1>a good many of them, of course, are girls that,

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<v Speaker 1>in one way or another, work for the magazine. Soon

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<v Speaker 1>there was no real divide between Offner's work and play

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner was more than a brand ambassador for Playboy, he

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<v Speaker 1>was the brand itself. Constantly surrounded by gorgeous girls and

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful belongings. Hefner's world may seem enviable to some. At

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<v Speaker 1>forty four, he's unquestionably King Rabbit, and certainly he takes

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<v Speaker 1>every opportunity to enjoy his dough. He moved into a

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<v Speaker 1>new home. He called it the Playboy Mansion. It became

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous party house on the planet, first in

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and later in Beverly Hills. What happened if Playboy

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<v Speaker 1>mansion in a kind of typical day, was that it

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<v Speaker 1>was the site for Hefner's uh sort of equally intense

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<v Speaker 1>bouts of work and play. The one million dollar home

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<v Speaker 1>became an exclusive playground, one where fantasies became reality among

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities and scantily clad women, or so it seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>many who did not journey inside the mansion's walls. It

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<v Speaker 1>was I crowded. There were lots of men, there quite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of girls. Russell Miller again, he wentness firsthand

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<v Speaker 1>the typical evenings at the Playboy Mansion. They weren't sort

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<v Speaker 1>of big celebrities. They were be team actors and second

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<v Speaker 1>class footballers and hairdressers. And they'll just be hanging around

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<v Speaker 1>all a bit bored, drinking wine and beer and stuffing

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<v Speaker 1>his sandwiches until about eleven o'clock when a secretary suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>emerged from his room on the top floor and came down,

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<v Speaker 1>running down the stairs a quick, quick, He's gonna come down,

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<v Speaker 1>make like there's a party. Stephen Watts says it was

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<v Speaker 1>like something out of the pages of The Great Gatsby.

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<v Speaker 1>After was sort of like Jay Gatsby in that he

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<v Speaker 1>always had one foot in and one foot out. Partly

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<v Speaker 1>of participant, partly an observer. Hefner was also a creature

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<v Speaker 1>of habit. He was a very wretched, vented man. He

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<v Speaker 1>was addicted to routine. The movie nights, for example, were

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<v Speaker 1>set on the set schedule of nights, the same kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of movies on the same days of the week, with

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<v Speaker 1>the same groups of people. He ate the same meals

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<v Speaker 1>the same day of the week, and the same recipes

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. Heffner's routine was often at odds with the

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<v Speaker 1>Playboy image. The reality of life in the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>mansion was very, very different from that that the magazine

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<v Speaker 1>constantly portrayed. And I have to tell you that Hefner

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<v Speaker 1>played Monopoly three times a week with the same four friends.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Monopoly games, Fried Chicken, old movies, and old men.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like Hooters had opened a retirement home. But

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<v Speaker 1>for Heffner, it was perfect. He didn't like to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the mansion. He was sort of charming and and and

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<v Speaker 1>and funny and pleasant, you know, and a very amiable

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<v Speaker 1>in individual. Except and I thought I had a strong

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<v Speaker 1>feeling he was just cut off from from reality. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said to him once they said, why didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>ever go out, and he seemed quite shocked. Why should

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<v Speaker 1>What on earth would I want to go out? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the point? I got everything I need from here. And

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<v Speaker 1>part of what Heffner needed and got was a steady

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<v Speaker 1>supply of young women. Hundreds lived at the Playboy mansion

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, constantly replenishing here and large the women

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<v Speaker 1>recognized that they were um second class citizens. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the girls um quickly became disillusioned, and they recognized

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<v Speaker 1>that they were just there as decoration, as for sexual playthings,

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<v Speaker 1>and would would would leave and not come back. Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Lefner managed to create a mystique around his own Playboy image,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the reality of mansion life may have been, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't long until Heffner and Playboy had another idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the fantasies from the pages of the magazine to

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<v Speaker 1>Playboy clubs with male members only, and what they're created

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<v Speaker 1>was a place for readers of the magazine to come

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<v Speaker 1>to these places and experience in real life the Playboy

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<v Speaker 1>lifestyle with good food and good liquor and sophisticated jazz music,

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<v Speaker 1>all the kinds of things they were talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>the magazine, and of course very attractive young women. A

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<v Speaker 1>job as a playboy bunny was also very attractive to

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<v Speaker 1>many young women. Most bunnies were college students or aspiring

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<v Speaker 1>actresses or models. They were drawn to the flexible schedule

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<v Speaker 1>and a chance to earn more than their fathers. The

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<v Speaker 1>Playboy clubs would become a worldwide phenomenon during the nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed that playboy could do no wrong. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hefly began to talk about the whole Playboy world where um,

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<v Speaker 1>you would stay your your entertainment would be provided by

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<v Speaker 1>Playboy club, your reading would be provided by Playboy magazines.

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<v Speaker 1>You would stay in play By hotel, used Playboy money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just he got carried away with them with

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<v Speaker 1>the notion that that playboy could take over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Up next, we find out what really launched Playboy. Heffner's

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy powered rocket ship might have crashed and burned on

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<v Speaker 1>the launch pad without the star power of the playmate,

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<v Speaker 1>who Hefner admired above all others. Hugh Heffner grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago during the Great Depression. Here's biographer Steven once again.

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<v Speaker 1>His parents, Glenn Hefner ran Grace Heffner, were transplanted Nebraskans

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<v Speaker 1>from a very traditional background, and Heffner grew up. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a very happy childhood, but one that he felt

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit restrictive on the religious and moral front.

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<v Speaker 1>They were sort of middle class folk, m very good fearing,

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<v Speaker 1>very respectable Russell Miller. Again, they didn't drink, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>smoke um. They there was no high living. Hefner himself

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<v Speaker 1>admitted at the age of eighteen that he was still

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<v Speaker 1>a virgin. Heffner was a gangly teenager five ft ten

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<v Speaker 1>one fifteen pounds. He was shy and awkward around girls.

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<v Speaker 1>He was something of a loner, and he spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time in his bedroom. He was a cartoonist,

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<v Speaker 1>a fledgling cartoonist even as a young boy, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a very vivit imagination. I guess I would say

0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Heffner loved movies and pop culture, and he immersed himself

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<v Speaker 1>in fantasy worlds of his own creation. In the eighth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>he discovered Esquire magazine and he hung its modest pin

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<v Speaker 1>up girls on his bedroom walls. The movies and the

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<v Speaker 1>magazines inspired the young Heffner to reinvent himself for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. By high school, he had transformed himself into

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<v Speaker 1>the life of the party, and then in high school

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<v Speaker 1>he was enormously popular. He always looked back on his

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<v Speaker 1>life uh in high school as being a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>golden ero. Hefner entered the army in World War Two

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<v Speaker 1>after high school. Then he went to the University of

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois on the g I Bill, where he studied journalism

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<v Speaker 1>and writing. After college, he moved to the suburbs and

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<v Speaker 1>married his college sweetheart, Millie. But like many college grads,

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner struggled to bridge the gap between his aspirations and

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<v Speaker 1>his employment options. He gave up on his dream of

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<v Speaker 1>being a cartoonist and took a series of copyrighting jobs

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<v Speaker 1>or advertising agencies. Hefner soon grew unhappy at work, unhappy

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<v Speaker 1>with Millie, now pregnant, and daunted by the prospect of

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a parent. He longed for a better life and

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<v Speaker 1>a more sophisticated and more glamorous life. He used to

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<v Speaker 1>walk along sort of fancy streets in Chicago and look

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<v Speaker 1>up at the windows of apartments of people who had

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<v Speaker 1>high fives and fancy cars and thought they look in

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<v Speaker 1>the windows and think about that's what I want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>One day that's what I want to have one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Hafner's discontent came to a head after he attended a

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<v Speaker 1>high school reunion in nineteen fifty two and was reminded

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<v Speaker 1>of that golden era again. And he came home actually

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<v Speaker 1>from this gathering sort of deeply depressed. And he told

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<v Speaker 1>the story later in life that he was in downtown

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and he was standing on one of the bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looking out over the water, just wondering about

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<v Speaker 1>his life. And as he was standing on the bridge

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<v Speaker 1>looking out of the water, thinking about his high school days,

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<v Speaker 1>he decided he had to do something to change his life.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he did was to go home, and over

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<v Speaker 1>the next several days he began to put into action

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<v Speaker 1>a plan that had been kind of percolating in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of his mind, and that was to create a

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<v Speaker 1>magazine for young men like himself. And that magazine, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>turned out to be Playboy. Hafner bristled at the restrict

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<v Speaker 1>demorality of his Midwestern upbringing, not to mention the growing

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<v Speaker 1>conformity of nineteen fifties suburbia, and he was convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of young guys out there just

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<v Speaker 1>like him. This post war period was one where the

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<v Speaker 1>economy was booming and young men like him, we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>decent jobs with, you know, pretty decent salaries, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think having been in the war, they were looking for

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<v Speaker 1>broader experience, deeper, more authentic kind of experience, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them were feeling pressure to be family men

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<v Speaker 1>and to have a lot of kids, and to move

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<v Speaker 1>to the suburbs and that kind of thing. Heffner wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to create a magazine that would serve as a pathway

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<v Speaker 1>to a richer kind of experience for these men, an

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment magazine for the upwardly mobile urban mail, something breezy

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<v Speaker 1>and sophisticated that included original writing and tips on fashion

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<v Speaker 1>and style, and of course, the all important centerfold. Hefner

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<v Speaker 1>worked hard to gather up around eight thousand dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>launch Playboy. He called on all his friends and indeed

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<v Speaker 1>his family to put in a small amount of money,

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<v Speaker 1>and he raised enough money to make the first edition feasible.

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<v Speaker 1>That first issue, which Heffner had assembled on his kitchen table,

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<v Speaker 1>hit newsstands in December nineteen well. Haffner was extremely nervous

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<v Speaker 1>about the first issue of Playboy because he borrowed money

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<v Speaker 1>from his family. He actually sold some of his furniture

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<v Speaker 1>and his card to raise money. He just gambled everything

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<v Speaker 1>on it. It was an all or nothing venture for Heffner,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything hinged on that first issue. He wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 1>if people would buy it. He was so unsure that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't put actually a date on the first issue,

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<v Speaker 1>nor his name. Actually, when the magazine first came out

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<v Speaker 1>from the distributor, he went down into Chicago and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a walk from newsstand to newsstand and hid behind

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<v Speaker 1>a tree or behind a card to watch to see

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<v Speaker 1>if guys who came by the news stand were buying

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<v Speaker 1>his magazine, and they did in the thousands. Playboy quickly

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<v Speaker 1>sold out, thanks in large part to one unforgettable centerfold.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Hefner was never shy about his admiration for the

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<v Speaker 1>screen legend Marilyn Monroe. Do you think you would have

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<v Speaker 1>dated her? I would have loved to. This is eighty

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<v Speaker 1>six year old Hugh Heffner talking about Monroe in a

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and thirteen interview. You know, I'm a sucker

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<v Speaker 1>for blond, and she's the ultimate blond. Monroe also had

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<v Speaker 1>an oversized impact on Hefner's life. She was the launching

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<v Speaker 1>key to the beginning of Playboy. Heffner knew that he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to make the first issue of Playboy extraordinary, and

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<v Speaker 1>that meant he needed the perfect centerfold, the ideal woman

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<v Speaker 1>to anchor his new magazine. He combed through nude photographs

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<v Speaker 1>and models and pin up girls from across the nation,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he found what he was looking for. That year,

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<v Speaker 1>Marril Monroe was Hollywood's biggest news star. The twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>year old blonde bombshell had wowed audiences in films like

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<v Speaker 1>Gentlemen Prefer Blondes and How to Marry a Millionaire The

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<v Speaker 1>year before, America was shocked to learn that Monroe post

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<v Speaker 1>nude as a young struggling model, but many Americans still

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>had not seen the actual evidence, and so it happened

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<v Speaker 1>that Hugh Hefner, in desperate need of the perfect centerfold

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<v Speaker 1>for his new men's magazine, learned that a local Chicago

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>calendar company owned the rights to Monroe's nude images. Hefner

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<v Speaker 1>persuaded the owner to sell him one of the nude photos,

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<v Speaker 1>which featured Monroe against a red velvet backdrop, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to buy the by that the rights

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<v Speaker 1>to that picture for five hundred dollars um, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge amount of money at that time and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much cleaned him out. But Hefner was convinced that he

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<v Speaker 1>had in his possession the most valuable photograph in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>When play Boy hit newsstands, a clothed Marilyn Monroe appeared

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<v Speaker 1>on its front cover. Inside was the red velvet image Monroe.

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<v Speaker 1>Heffner wrote in that first issue is natural Sex Personified.

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<v Speaker 1>She became the magazine's first centerfold, the first Playboy playmate.

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<v Speaker 1>He launches the first issue of Playboy with Marilyn Monroe

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<v Speaker 1>as the first playmate, and it's really the start of

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<v Speaker 1>everything that happens thereafter. The first edition was extraordinarily successful.

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<v Speaker 1>The centerfold picture of Maridon Monroe was a sensation. Monroe

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>put Playboy and Heffner on the map, and he launched

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>his empire on these nude photos of Maryland, having never

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<v Speaker 1>gotten her permission, having never met her um, and he

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't offer her dime. This has Monroe biographer Sarah church Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we will hear more from her and about Monroe's response

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<v Speaker 1>to the nude photographs in the next episode. And Hugh

0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Hefner literally became a millionaire thanks to these photographs, and

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>with them, Hugh Hefner began his remarkable run as the

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>nation's leading playboy, converting his own dream into a collective

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>fantasy for millions of American men. Ten years later, a

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 1>young reporter named Lauria Steinham went undercover in one of

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Heffner's Playboy clubs and entered into the crosshairs of that fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>What she learned there would change her life, and, via

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>her efforts, the lives of countless women. And what about

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Marilyn Monroe, the woman whose image helped launch Playboy in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. Monroe's path to fame and fortune was hard,

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<v Speaker 1>even tragic, and very different from Hugh Hefner's. Hefner and

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<v Speaker 1>Monroe were contemporaries, both born in nineteen six, but they

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<v Speaker 1>never met. Today, they lie next to each other for

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<v Speaker 1>eternity and a mausoleum in Los Angeles. This was Heffner's wish,

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<v Speaker 1>not Monroe's. Even in death, Monroe was not safe from

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<v Speaker 1>the men who exploited her, from the men she liked

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<v Speaker 1>to call the wolves. Writing and the Thread is produced

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