1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Really really talks. Look at us now, tip to tip. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, little artsy to start off your Friday. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: You ain't got shit to do. You might as well 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: get tuned into the best damn combat sports show period, right, 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: and we got the awards to prove it. Its Morning Combat. 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: You're BBC with the BD Brian Campbell. 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: You're looking at him right here, co host us with 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: the mostest Luke Thomas, still on vacation in the Motherland, 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: but you'll be seeing from him in the future. We 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: are live and direct Blue Wire Studios here inside the 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: Win on the Strip in Las Vegas. 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: One more sleep, John Anick, I think that's a patented phrase. 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: Now until we get to Gervanti, Tank, Davis King, Ryan 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: Garcia Saturday night on Showtime pay per view. 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Today's episode, Yeah, it's about that fight. Okay. 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: We're final stretch, predictions, breakdowns, some great special guests. 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Do not miss it. 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Right, That's what they say at mixtoor at 74 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: least right, be good or be gone. Yeah, I'm looking 75 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: at you, Ray if I love you, brother, Hey, let's 76 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: bring in. 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: My special guests today. 78 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: Had a lot of fun with Eric Raskin, Karam Molviniy 79 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: and Alan Dawson on Wednesday's Morning Combat episode. Today though 80 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: we got some even heavier hitters, if you know what 81 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: I mean. 82 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Let's shift on my left. Of course, you know I'm 83 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: from John Boy Media Inside Boxing Live, the award nominated 84 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: fantastic podcast he does with Chris Aljery. 85 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: And of course the Air to the Throne of Compybox 86 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: or You're gonna have to fight your brothers to find out. 87 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: It's Dan Kenobio. 88 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: Baby is off, everybody. I'm excited to be here. Big 89 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: Fight Week Vegas, splew Our Studios. 90 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: Look at this, Look at us and we got a 91 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: world champion with us on this panel. You know him 92 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: and I we work together on Showboxing New Generation, and 93 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: you know we love each other. 94 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: But there's some deep seated. 95 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: Animosity to the idea that Rabwol Marcus is not my 96 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: favorite fighter of all time. 97 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: He's a former world champion, he's l d Monte. 98 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: Uh but you know, you can't pick who you love, 99 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: but he's one of my I would say. 100 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: My favorite broadcaster to work with. So howell, thank you 101 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: for sliding in today. 102 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: Brother, Get it right, buddy. 103 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: You know. 104 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: Forgot about the. 105 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: Former junior middleweight world champion right here? Okay, I mean 106 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: we just had the anniversary correct. 107 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah we did, Yeah, we did, uh yeah, in 108 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: April April, since I won the world title accident, I 109 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 2: wanted here in Vegas at the Tropicana Hotel on ABC 110 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: wide World of Sports, The thrill of victory, the agony 111 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: of defeed, the human drama competition. Remember that we went 112 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: to the De la Hoya fight with my championship champions Yes. 113 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: Back then, but knocking there was knocking going. Now, hey, 114 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned de la Hoya and we've got a fun bit. 115 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Because you know, you can't pick who you love, Dan, 116 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: who's you favorite front of all time? 117 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: You can't pick who you love. It they pick you 118 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: who is it or Tarogatti? And then you know I 119 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: get it. I get it. Maybe people that really know me, 120 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: they get it's Oscar de la Joya And I didn't 121 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: pick it, but it happened. Why because maybe he's the 122 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: pretty boy that deep inside all of us suburban kids 123 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 3: wanted to be. 124 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: But he's also a badass. Did you see round twelve 125 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: of against Quarte? But you know he's my guy. 126 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: Love him or hate him, and sometimes we do both. 127 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: Let's start here, Raoul, okay, because he was your roommate 128 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: in ninety two in Barcelona at the Olympics. Oscar sometimes 129 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: says and does things that make us question how much 130 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: we do love him. But I love him at the 131 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: end of the day. Did you see what he was 132 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: wearing yesterday? How does a grown man pull that off? 133 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: Oh? 134 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: He even shape? I mean did you see his new 135 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: app work that they did? I mean, and he loves it. 136 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: He loves to show it off. I mean if if I, 137 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: if I had the money to do that, hey, listen, 138 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: I would do that too. Why not? But yeah, no, 139 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: Oscar man, we go way back, you know room in 140 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: the Olympics. 141 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: You might have stories for that. Do you have stories 142 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 4: from a lot of stories. That's another show. That's a 143 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: whole show. 144 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: I mean, Dan, what do we hear about the Olympic 145 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: village historically? 146 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: I heard it's a lot of action going on. Yeah, 147 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: in many ways, a lot of athletes in. 148 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: Very good shape running around, but not a lot to 149 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: do down. 150 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: You were there with Oscar and the Dream Team. 151 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: The Dream Team, the volleyball everybody was there, you know, magic, 152 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: I mean great memories. You know, just walking the in 153 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: the Olympic ceremonies, that was. I mean, I'll never forget that. 154 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 5: Man. 155 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: Just here I am, you know, me and Oscar and 156 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: the rest of the team walking in the big stadium 157 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: and you know, represent the United States of America. Man, 158 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: what a feeling, bro Like. 159 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: Well, look, you made a great transition from not just 160 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: fight er to broadcaster. 161 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: You'll be on the on the Espen. 162 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: You'll call of Saturday's showtime pay per view, Tank Davis, 163 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia. 164 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: We love your work on Showbox. But you're also man. 165 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: You're the trainer. You know you trained, you trained your 166 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: your first son as a pros. 167 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: Actually my father trained Arturo and I was helping, you 168 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: know with But now I train my other son Giovanni 169 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: Marquez was twenty two years old. He debuted on show Box, 170 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: which we we saw that. We you know, you guys 171 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: did a great job, and I was I was so job. 172 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: I was so nervous, Thank you man. Yeah, he's five 173 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: and oh now, by the way, and with three knockouts, 174 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: he's coming up. He's got a lot of talent. We 175 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: sparred uh as a matter of fact, for that fight 176 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: he got ready here in Vegas. He sparred Shakor Stevenson. 177 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: Who's dude, He's he's one of the best stuff up there. 178 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: You know, he he hired him for sparring because he 179 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: gave the great work, and it was good work. Just 180 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: imagine the experience sparring with the core. You know, I 181 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: always tell Giovanni back when I was in the Lou 182 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: Douva days, I call him. I was around Print Whitaker, 183 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: Meldard Taylor, Evander Holyfield. I mean, I spart of guys 184 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: like Johnny Bumfas, Rocky Lockridge, Vine Pazzi Enza, John John Molina. 185 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: You know about that. Yeah, all those guys. I was 186 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: sparring them when I was an amateur. So you know, 187 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: when I'm I'm smart of these guys, then I'm going 188 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: to national tournament. I'm like guy Dan Campbell, I mean 189 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: I can. 190 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: I've never been in the fight, never been punched, never 191 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: been kissed, been kissed, ever punch the first time. 192 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: For everything, I love the work. 193 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: As I said collectively that that you're doing. It's great 194 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: to get you on the show today in your train 195 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: and uh Dan, before we dive into this fight, you 196 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: can made a nice pivot over to John Boy. But 197 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: I feel like you guys are playing more whiffle ball 198 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: than you are doing boxing. 199 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: Cover Jerry. 200 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: They got me running around doing all sorts of things 201 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: that John Boy media. Obviously I cover boxing there, but 202 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 4: we have a warehouse in Jersey City where we put 203 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: on these events and blitz ball is one of them. 204 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: It's like a new age wiffleball. I feel like'm cheating 205 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: on wootball. 206 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Because I grew up. They don't play blitzball in Houston. 207 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: Apparently it's a yellow ball. It's a yellow that curves 208 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: like crazy. I played college baseball, So where did you 209 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 4: play college? 210 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: Long Island? 211 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: Stuff of community college number one in your hearts. But 212 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: they got me out there and I never I thought 213 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 4: my playing days were over. But I'm on the mound 214 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: and Chris Rose former you know, still as broadcaster U 215 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: calling these games and I'm on there and they call 216 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: me old man Dan because I work with a bunch 217 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: of like young twenty. 218 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: Year old So Chris Rose from the best Damn. 219 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: Yes, he's one of our announcers. He's a John Boy personality. 220 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's a great place. I mean, it's an 221 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: awesome place to work. And they got me doing boxing. 222 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: They don't know much about boxing, but I educate the kids. 223 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: Everyone in the office is asking me about this fight. 224 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 4: That's how you know it's a big fight. They're casual 225 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: boxing fans. They're just casual sports fans and they like 226 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: and Ryan Garcia did come through the office at John 227 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 4: Boy last year. But they're all asking me about this fight. 228 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: And I think that's the type of fight this is. 229 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: It's like a crossover event. It's like one of these 230 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: these fights where non boxing fans are going to tune 231 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: in Mark Car boxing fans are going to. 232 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: My kids are sitting man tiktoks of Ryan Garcia, Like 233 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: this tells me the fight. 234 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so is Ryan Garcia. That they know more? And 235 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: who's got who's more popular with your kids. I don't 236 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: have any kids, but I don't know what I'm talking about, 237 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: what your kids. Everyone knows Ryan Garcia. 238 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: Everyone knows Ryan Garcia because from like social media, of course, 239 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 4: but also from him coming through the office. He showed 240 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: up and he was so nice to everyone, and he 241 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: was kind of like unannounced. Kids are working at their 242 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: desk and all of a sudden, I see his walking through. 243 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, they see him on social media. In the 244 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: in the purse bet as silly as that was, because 245 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: we obviously know that's probably never gonna happen. 246 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Were shared Winner takes All, Right, the Winner. 247 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: Takes All was shared everywhere, not just on the boxing pages, 248 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: not just on the sports pages, but like the entertainment 249 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: pages like Shade Room, you know, complex like that right there, 250 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: that little ten second clip, Yeah did more for this 251 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: promotion than anything. And that just shows you where this 252 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: is the first ever social media super There. 253 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: It is there, It is really that's the buzzword right there. 254 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: It really is because they're really leaning into it. 255 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: Like it's obviously social media has been around for like 256 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: ten to fifteen years, but we haven't had a fight 257 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: where both guys like really tap into their followings and 258 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 4: obviously Ryan Garcia. I think it's like a chip on 259 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 4: his shoulder more than just the social media guys. 260 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm more than nine and a half million Instagram. 261 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: I feel like you say Ryan Garcia, then the next 262 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: thing you have to say about him is he's got 263 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: nine million Instagram followers. But this fight's huge and I 264 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 4: can't wait to see it on. I can't wait to 265 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: break it all down. 266 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: All right. 267 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: Yesterday was the press conference, Arieljwani, myself, Stephen Jackson. 268 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: We're able to host the stream for Showtime Sports, and 269 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: it turned into probably more entertainment than we expected because 270 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: Oscar de la Hoya, who showed up in the the 271 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: suit with no undershirt. Job. 272 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: Man, I know he's your favorite fighter, but come on, yeah, 273 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: I was expecting. 274 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: You to go through. You gotta have you gotta have 275 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: big ones to pull that off. 276 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: Okay, you keep getting me jealous. Man, Come on, you 277 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: know that that's gonna lead up to something. It's gonna 278 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: and you don't want. 279 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know a lot of people think, well I 280 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: go into it on RAU. Well, Well I be that dumb, 281 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 282 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Probably not, but I like to think there's a chance. 283 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: But My point is, guys, that that that that that started, 284 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: that stirred the mix. When Oscar comes out and says, 285 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: one of the biggest storylines here is a ten pound 286 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: rehydration clause. It's even though Ryan moved up to the 287 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 3: last two fights the junior welterweight division at one forty, 288 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: this is a one hundred and thirty six pound catchweight bout. 289 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: And he says, your team is scared and went all 290 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: down that road. Do we actually think Team Tank Davis 291 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: or the fighter himself is scared? We're all old boxing heads. 292 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: I would say no. 293 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: But is there any fire to the smoke here of 294 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: this idea? Because a side privileges is a thing in 295 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: making pay per views, whether we like it or not. Oscar, Floyd, Canelo, Tank, 296 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: Everybody's done it. 297 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: You're the fighter, rabul. 298 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: Should he How how should Team Tank Davis defend this 299 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: decision to essentially kind of force this guy down a 300 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: little bit to maybe even the terms even though they're 301 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: kind of in the same way class more or less. 302 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, first of all, let me tell you, Oscar 303 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: is a veteran man. He's a promoter. He's done it all. 304 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 2: He's done it all. He's a fighter promoter. You know, 305 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: he was a great he won gold medal and he's 306 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: been around in big He's been the biggest fights of 307 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: boxing and training camps and all that, so he knows 308 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: how to get in people's heads. You know, that's experience. 309 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: He's got a lot of experience with that. And I 310 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: think that was just trying to find a way of 311 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: how to get into uh Jervonte Davis's head and even 312 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: his team, which in some kind of way I think 313 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: he did. Yeah, by saying all those comments, I really 314 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: think you did. But at the end of the day, 315 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: you know what, Oscar used to do the same thing too, man, 316 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: I mean all the what when you're the castcar, when 317 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: you're the guy that everybody wants to fight. If you 318 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: want to fight me, you got to go through my 319 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: whatever I'm gonna I'm the starter, you know, I'm got 320 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: this is what. If you want this fight, You're gonna 321 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: have to do this. You gotta do this, You gotta 322 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: do it whatever you have to do, but have to 323 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: do it. 324 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: Isn't the negotiation, whether you're buying a house or anything. 325 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: It's like you pay, I'll only sell to you if 326 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: you pay the closing costs, you know what I mean. 327 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: And Ryan pushed for this fight, right. I think he 328 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: was very vocal about It's been vocal about it for 329 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 4: going on three years now, and he really. 330 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: Wanted that fight so badly. 331 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: They're like, okay, well, if you want to fight, here's 332 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: some of the stipulations that you're gonna have to adhere to. 333 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: And it's interesting because he is bringing. 334 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: Up a lot. 335 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 4: I mean, he's even bringing up yesterday sitting there now 336 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: that they're paying people to spy on him. I feel 337 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: like it's something that Ryan. This is what his thing 338 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: for this fight. Everyone needs an edge going to training 339 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: cap you know Peter than anyone. This is what there. 340 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: This is what their team's going with. They're going with 341 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: like the weight thing. But you agreed to it, this fight, 342 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: you agree to it. 343 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: I am hearing rumblings that it's a late afternoon weigh in. 344 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Ryan mentioned that light. 345 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't even be something like three pm. Wow, which 346 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: is that's pretty crazy. It is crazy. I don't know 347 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: that's for sure. I'm not a sources guy, but I've 348 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: heard that. 349 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: Okay, but let's be honest here, Like Tank fought at 350 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: one forty and beat Mario Barrios, and it. 351 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: Looked good doing it, right, And and I'm not see 352 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: Sabathia walking by the wind right now. I guess that. 353 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: Happens around here, right, But my point is like, I'm 354 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: not mad at Tank for doing it because it's the game. 355 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: Like Ariel Hawanni on the on the stream coming from 356 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: the m A side was more like, it shouldn't be 357 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: shouldn't be like this, No, it shouldn't be like this. 358 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: But it's negotiation. 359 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: It is what it is, what's going on here. 360 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: I can give you twenty five instances of how this 361 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: has happened across the board so many times. But this 362 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: shows at the very least that Tank's team respects and 363 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: has maybe not fear is not the word, right, but 364 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: heavy respect for the real danger across the ring from Yeah, 365 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: I agree. 366 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: I mean, look, he's gonna try to get an advantage 367 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: any way you can. I mean, and that's what that's 368 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: the way of getting some kind of advantage. You know, 369 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: it's a confidence thing, and he he deserves to do that. 370 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: Why not? 371 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Ryan could have said no, this is 372 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: the deal Brea. I mean, And what Steven Espinosa told 373 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: me Kayleb Plant was like, I'm only fighting David Benavitez 374 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: if I get the size of the ring I want. 375 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: Everybody looked and said, we want this fight. We're okay 376 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: with that stipulation. Took it, like you guys keep saying, 377 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia, they gave him a one pound allowance. 378 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: He took it. 379 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: Now we've got to move forward. I think Ryan Garcia 380 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: is bringing it up so often to motivate himself, which 381 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: I think is a smart thing. But let's talk about 382 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: how he looked in the interview process, in the face 383 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: off process yesterday. He looks like he's deep in a 384 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: way cut. 385 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: No, he looks better than us, number one, First of all, 386 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: First of all, first and fore once get the other way. Yes, 387 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: he did look a little drawn in, but that's to 388 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: be expected. He's a big Guy's last two fights about 389 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty pounds. And when's the last time 390 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: he fought it? 391 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: Won? Thirty five? Go back to like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, Yeah. 392 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: Luke Campbell, twenty twenty one. 393 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: Yeahway, okay, we're talking pandemic era. But like, he did 394 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: look a little drawn in, But listen, this is what 395 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: he agreed to. Once again, this is what he agreed to. 396 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: He really wanted this fight. He had to put his 397 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: name on the contract and agreed to all the stipulations that, 398 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: like you said, like guys like Oscar have put in 399 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: his a side too, which was. 400 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: Kind of ironic. 401 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: Paper Hopkins, you're coming down two pounds in are unispeeded 402 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: middleweight about That's that's. 403 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: The deal, right, And I mean, you know what I 404 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: see Ryan very confident, you know, I call him, you know, 405 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: he like Instagram Instagram confident. 406 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 407 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: He did. I mean, that's good for him. And and 408 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: uh and I gotta I still give it to the 409 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: young I call him a kick because he is young. 410 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: You know, he's old school. Like he he's willing to 411 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: fight the best man. So he did whatever it took 412 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: to fight the best and he's getting that fighting. That's 413 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: that's good for him. 414 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: Well, you always wanted to fight the best route. Well, 415 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: that was another calling card in your career, World champion. 416 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you took on Shane Moseley and there was 417 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: that really bad where'd you have a scar from the 418 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: Shane Mosley? 419 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: I got a lot of scars right here right here? 420 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: They stopped the fight. Well, the fight was over because 421 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: of an accidental head but it. 422 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: Was no contest, and you were coming on, you were coming. 423 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: Out, was coming on. But this right here, you can 424 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: see my bone, So I mean what and I still 425 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: wanted to keep going that way. 426 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: That's warriors up to tell us about the history of 427 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: negotiations there anybody's weird. Is there ever a fighter almost 428 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: falling apart over something like this that you were involved in. 429 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: I was never involved in anything like that because I 430 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: to me, I mean, the money mattered, but that wasn't 431 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: the most important thing because I'm most good. Like I said, 432 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to fight the best, to be the best. 433 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: That was my way. Look when I won the world title, 434 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: you know, my first defense, I fought someone like Ramalis Ellis. 435 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 2: He was he was still an Olympic bronze medalist from 436 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: the aded Olympic team, but he was a smaller guy. 437 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: Could I have fought more guys like that, like you know, 438 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: Brian Campbell type of you know guy? 439 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: He said, smaller guys, smaller and harder. 440 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: I think he was guys you know. No, But from there, 441 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: you know, I thought Keith Mullins, which a lot of 442 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: people did not know about. Kells nobody knew about Keith Mullins. 443 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: You know, I fought him on the De la Joya 444 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: Camacho undercart I was a co main event here in Vegas. Uh, 445 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: the Thomas and Maxenter. So Keith Mullins and I knew 446 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: him from the amateurs, how good he was and stuff. 447 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: You know, he was a he was an army and 448 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: he was a good amateur fighter. The next in December 449 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: of that same year, you know, when I lose the 450 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: title and Oscar fights with rivera tidal Way was CALLINGX City, 451 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: Keith Mudlins knocks out the best of my era, which 452 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: I thought it was the best. Terrible Terry Norse, Terrible 453 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: Terry Norris was. So that tells you how Goodins was, 454 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: you know. Then you know after that, you know, guys 455 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: like Jermaine Taylor, author Abraham at the end of my 456 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: career when I beat Joann Lorenzo on Showtime as City, 457 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: Yeah he was supposed to beat me, and uh and 458 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: I was a name. I beat him. I earned the 459 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: shot at a monster, I mean Abraham, I mean middleweight 460 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: was not my weight. I was more of one fifty 461 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: four pounder. 462 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: And I don't think the drug testing in Germany was 463 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: was up to. 464 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: Thank you and my dad. Hey, listen, when we saw 465 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: Abraham at the Waynes, he looked, you know, not that big. 466 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: And you know he looked the next day when I 467 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: when I see him in the ring, he looked like 468 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: a light heavyweight. Man. Even the commentators that did you know, 469 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: our ol Albrenston was one of the broad and Nick 470 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: Nick Charles, the late Ni Charles was doing the broadcasting, right, 471 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: and he's like, man, that guy looks like a light heavyweight. 472 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: Cruiser wind Roll looks like a general middleweight. What's the 473 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: most you've ever gained between the way and fight? I 474 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: never gained like you know, I remember, you know, my 475 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: good friend, your favorite fighter tour Gaddy. He would gain 476 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: a lot of weight. A lot of fighters would gain 477 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: a lot of weight. 478 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 4: Me the most maybe ten pounds, all right, so maybe 479 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 4: ten isn't that crazy? 480 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 481 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is the game and and it's 482 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a hard Way Cup for somebody of 483 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: Ryan's height in any division, right, I mean, that's that's 484 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: gonna be ultimately what it is. 485 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: Uh, the fun reaction we got to. 486 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 3: Oscar stirring the pod and giving us a major narrative 487 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: or at least trying to get more attention to the 488 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: idea of his fighter has to go through more which 489 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: is true is Leonard Llerb's reaction. 490 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: So Leonard's rebranding as like basically Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince. 491 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: But as I said on the streamy, sorry, uncle Phil 492 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: will kick that ass. True or false, Dan, Leonard Llerb 493 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: was willing, ready, able, let's do it to fistfight Oscar 494 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: del Hoyde. 495 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: I was absolutely like taken back by Leonard. I mean, 496 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: I mean know he's great on the mic. We know 497 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 4: he's he's come after me that many times. 498 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: He'll fends he's a CEO of Mayweather Promotions and he'll 499 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: defend Floyd at every turn. 500 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: You know, married the hatchet. 501 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: Me and Leonard are great. Now he took a picture yesterday. 502 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 4: We are fine. But he will literally on a on 503 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 4: a snap turn on and turned it on and he didn't. 504 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 4: I told him after I saw him in the in 505 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: the media room, I was like, that was a ten 506 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: seven round for Leonard. 507 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: Because yeah, it was about that, you know why. 508 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: Because it was short and substinct, like Oscar read his 509 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 4: and you know it was a pretty who hum press 510 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 4: somebody wrote that for us and I didn't say anything 511 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: that he I don't think he spoke up that much 512 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: after that, no, because. 513 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: Because he sent him to hell. 514 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a pretty who hum press conference up 515 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 4: until then. You know, I got my guy here with me, Dre, 516 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 4: who was not a big boxing guy and he's never 517 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 4: been to a press conference, and it was pretty procedural, 518 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: like a lot of these press conferences are very procedural. 519 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: And here's the MGM beverage manager. 520 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: With thank everyone for you know, Bob reading. 521 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: And then Alston Oscar comes up and he's got his 522 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 4: prepared statements and even like something about him just reading him. 523 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 4: It didn't like click that he was going to go 524 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: that route. And he went that route and he fired 525 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 4: that first shot. But then here comes Lenny and substinct 526 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: short maybe three lines, I'm out dropped the mic. 527 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 3: Okay, so he basically said, I people, if you're an 528 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: m A fan or not a deep boxing fan, you 529 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: may not know the levels of the this rap war 530 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: that Leonard won yesterday. It was it was because he 531 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: basically was Look, he said, you were asleep at the 532 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: wheel and we stole all your fighters to PBC and 533 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: then Floyd beat all of their ass systematically, one by one. 534 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: There are certain things in families, Raoul that we don't 535 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: talk about. 536 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: We don't talk about Bruno and Luke Thomas's house. We 537 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 3: don't talk about certain things like like oh, uncle Joe's 538 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: in prison because of this, but we don't talk about that. 539 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: Agree in boxing, don't talk about what happened when Richard 540 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Schaeffer and Oscar broke up and then the PBC launched, 541 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: you know. 542 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: And that's probably what Oscar was like, I mean, what 543 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: can he say because whatever Leonard said, it's facts, it's 544 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: true statements. So Oscar had nothing to say. I mean, 545 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: he was just I'm glad I didn't escalate. 546 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 4: I was there in a sixty po fast, but I'm 547 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: also glad that it didn't escalate into a Leonard versus 548 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 4: Oscar thing. Like even they said on the dais Brian 549 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 4: Custer's like, we're here to see the fighters. 550 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: But that was a nice little coach entertainment. Nobody got hurt. 551 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: But we were surprised to see Leonard in general at 552 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: this fight because the narrative in January when Gervanti Tank 553 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: Davis knocked out Hector Luis Garcia as a setup to 554 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: get to Ron Garcia was this is my first fight 555 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: without Floyd Leonard and and the you know, the cushion, 556 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: the vehicle that got me to this point. We know 557 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 3: he has GTD Promotions, Gervonte, Tank Davis, we know, you know, 558 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: Tom Brown all hyman like it's a it's a team. 559 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: But that team Leonard's back. Well, let's surprise you. Like 560 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 3: we were like, wait, Leonards. 561 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: I was very surprised, you know, he all of a 562 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 2: sudden he popped up. I mean I hadn't seen him 563 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: in a while, right, like I being especially around Davonte, 564 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: and then I guess, you know, they they worked out 565 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: things and you know he's yeah, I mean, Leonard's a 566 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: good guy. I mean he's a good businessman. He's been 567 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: around a lot of experience with all the Floyd Mayweather 568 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: fights and you know, running Mayweather promotions. 569 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 3: Why not Floyd, That's what I'm saying, because it's like 570 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 3: Oscar has been calling this to fight to save boxing, 571 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: and then people got on him and they're like that's 572 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 3: not true, and he's like, maybe you're right. The fight 573 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: to say boxing was de la Joya Mayweather. That's what 574 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: the Sports Illustrated cover said. We don't agree with that 575 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: as boxing fans. But May fifth, two thousand and seven. 576 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: Of course my wedding. 577 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: Night, by the way, you got married. 578 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a long heartbreaking story there. 579 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: And there was no streaming back then. 580 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: Not really, you know, I had to find out internet 581 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: minutes early days infancy. 582 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: How did you even find I mean, I was. 583 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: In you know, it was in holy matrimony, was a 584 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: beautiful But I found out the next morning when I 585 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: got a text from fans that said it was a 586 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 3: split decision, but it wasn't that close. 587 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: It was eight four Floyd. 588 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: You know, our boy Larry Merchant always says there's nothing 589 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 4: that can kill the sport, right save. 590 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 3: So it's not the fight to save boxing. Oscar ended 591 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: up amid changing that to the fight to grow boxing. 592 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: And I think there's a lot of ripple effects. And 593 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: we talked about that a lot on Wednesday about hopefully, 594 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 3: you know, can we start talking about the idea of 595 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: the winner of this fight against the winner of Lomachenko 596 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: Haney in a perfect world. 597 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: But we are closer to that perfect world than we 598 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: were before. 599 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: It seems like correct, we're getting there. Oh yeah, we're 600 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: get in there. There's a lot there's a lot of 601 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: good fights from between one thirty five and one, A 602 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: lot of talent, a lot of talent, a lot of 603 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: know it Scorpez. You know Devin Haney that right there. 604 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: Five Frank Martin fellas Frank. 605 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: Forty is now carrying the sport for forever. 606 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: It was always the Glamor divisions were heavyweight, one sixty 607 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 4: and forty seven. Nothing's going on at one forty seven, 608 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: maybe something big will go be going on with forty. 609 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 4: This is going on right and then one sixty is 610 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: a barren wasteland right now. Middle waight, Yeah, is Triple 611 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 4: G still there? I don't even know what's going on 612 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 4: at one six Triple G. 613 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Heavyway, he is still there. I don't know he's heavyweight 614 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: to no clue. 615 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 4: But at heavyweight we know what's going on. Heavy they're 616 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: all jockeying, maybe saudy whatever. One thirty five to one 617 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: forty has the biggest collection of talent, big names, big name, 618 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: big names and talent, and they're all very good. It 619 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 4: seems like they're all willing to fight each other. Ryan 620 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: Garcia says, like this could be the start of us 621 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 4: all fighting each other. 622 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: Who cares if we lose. 623 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: Some Princes, right. 624 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 4: I love that I get ripped every time I mentioned 625 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: the Four Kings, and if people are listening, I putting 626 00:24:59,320 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 4: in air quotes. 627 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: They called the four Kings. 628 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: Like you Gramonte a Hagler. 629 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: You know obviously they're not the four Kings that from one. 630 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: Who do you think Kim Molvaney calls him the four Princes? 631 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: The Princes. 632 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: It started off as. 633 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 3: Haini Tank, Tao Femo and Ryan Garcia, but I think 634 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 3: Tao Fimo, who's still at one forty, gonna be fighting 635 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: Josh Taylor. I think some people once Tayo moved up 636 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: and lost to Cambosis, put you Kers Stevenson in that mix. 637 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: You guys to push the cos the skills of all 638 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: of this, the defensive stuff. 639 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: You can't teach defense. 640 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 4: You know this, the instincts that he has on defense 641 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: could he's it's very sustainable his skills for a long time, 642 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 4: but he just has to prove it only his one fight, 643 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 4: uh at one thirty five. But that division right there, 644 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: it's hard to like rank them, But go back on 645 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 4: your point, the four Princes, right, Who would have thought 646 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 4: that Ryan Garcia and Jonta Davis would. 647 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: Be the first guy to the matchup of all of them. 648 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 4: And they're the ones that were always their resumes are 649 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: being picked that, their character being picked at, whether it's 650 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: Ryan Garcia, whether he really wants to be a boxer, 651 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 4: And now they're the first two guys fighting. I understand 652 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 4: why they're fighting too, because it's it's a money fight. 653 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 4: It's a money fight, and it makes sense. But between 654 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: one thirty five, uh and Regis programmingfore you we've mentioned, Yeah, 655 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 4: let's not forget about Regis, Supero Matias and you go 656 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: down to Roy, don't forget Roly He's in there's in 657 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: there too. 658 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: I love too. 659 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's a lot of talent and I think 660 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 4: right now one thirty five, one forty is the big 661 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 4: thing right now. 662 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: Right of course, Saturday Night is Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia. 663 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: That's eight pm Eastern Showtime pay per view. You can 664 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: order right now, and don't forget about the build up 665 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: to that. It starts at six pm Eastern three Pacific, 666 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: and it's your Boy BC, it's Ariel Hawani, it's Kate 667 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: Abdoh Showtime pay per view Countdown. 668 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: We've got some good undercard fights. 669 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: If you don't know Monecky Junior Theodor Tracasian, who's been 670 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: blowing up the undercard circuit of late with Big Ko's, 671 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: is gonna have a step up. So don't miss that. 672 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: Let's get into the x's and o's of this. Dan, 673 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: you come from the great I mean you talk about 674 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 3: like Leonard. If he hears someone talking Jay, he'll throw 675 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 3: hands Bob Cano. If he hears somebody your father, the 676 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 3: founder of comfy Box, talking anything bad publicly about comfy Box, 677 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: he'll be up in that ass. 678 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: All in the videos. 679 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay, all up in the videos as a producer. 680 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: But seriously, they mentioned something during the press coveras when 681 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: the two fighters were drawing the stats are the stats, 682 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 3: and the stats tell you that Gervonte Davis, according to 683 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: compy Box, might be the most efficient fighter in the 684 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: game today. Ryan was trying to cloun him though, but 685 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 3: how would you make of that little back? 686 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: I loved it. 687 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 4: I was sitting there watching it, and all of a 688 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: sudden they bring up the stats. 689 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: Ryan. They're talking back and forth, and Ryan goes, you 690 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: got the lowest output. 691 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: In boxing, and then Gervanta goes, but I'm the most accurate. 692 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there in the crowd like, oh my 693 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 2: god our numbers. 694 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: Has Polly Malnagi go and full. 695 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, Tank is the most accurate power puncher in 696 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: the sport forty seven point six percent. And the thing 697 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 4: about Tank that is so impressive is that he fights 698 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: this style. I call it like a kind of a 699 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 4: Canelo style, kind of a Jamel Charlo style, Deontay Wilder style. 700 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: It's walking a tightrope. It's low output, it's high accuracy, 701 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 4: and it's game changing power. Yes, he throws the least 702 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 4: amount of punches of any active championship fighter. 703 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: That's wild four point two. 704 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he lands forty seven point six percent of 705 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 4: his power shots and he has knocked out. He's a 706 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: ninety three percent knockout rate and he's stopped nineteen of 707 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: his last twenty. 708 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: Incredible. So he's walking that tight rope. 709 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 4: He's giving away rounds early in the fight off of 710 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 4: sheer inactivity, but he knows that later on in this fight, 711 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna find an opening and I'm gonna stop him. 712 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 4: My thing is will that come back to bite him 713 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 4: in the buck? 714 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? 715 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: I always think about that. Yeah, what if you don't 716 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: find that opening? 717 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: I mean, we thought there's been Jamel Charlow fights, and 718 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up as a similar style. 719 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: Right now, Jamel Charlo does not waste punches. He waits 720 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: for that opening and looks to land that big cracking 721 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: right hand or that body shot light that he finished 722 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: Banana with. 723 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 5: Uh. 724 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: But don't forget about Jermel against Tony Harrison, who gave 725 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: him in two fights a very close, you know, stubborn 726 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: uh you know opposition in both fights, right, he was trailing, 727 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean, lost. 728 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: The first one by the speed decision. The second one, 729 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: You're like, you're gonna have to do something. To his credit, 730 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: he did something in finished Harrison. But when you meet 731 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: your match, Raoul, is their potential for Jervonte's low career, 732 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: low output, which is tactical to bite him in the 733 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: A s in this man. 734 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I always think about that, Yeah, because he like, 735 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 2: like we talked, you know, he starts very slow and 736 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: he doesn't really pick it up. I mean he that 737 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: That's just the way he fights. You know, he's always thinking, thinking, 738 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: looking for opening, said, trying to set trap. That that's 739 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: what's so incredible about Davonte is a very smart fighter. 740 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: You know, he's a thinking fighter in there. But in 741 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: the second half of the fight. All of a sudden, 742 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: he turns it up or he lands that home run 743 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: and the fight is over. But if Ryan could take 744 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: him into the second half of the fight, yes, and 745 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: you know, hold him inside, keep them at bay with 746 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: the long jab with the right hand, one two down 747 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: the middle. 748 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: Just keep it simple for Ry, Just keep it simple. 749 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: There's the thing about this fight. Like obviously tanks a 750 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: slow start against Barrios, there's a similar build of Ryan Garcia. 751 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: I think he's actually six foot and a seventy one 752 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 4: inch wingspan Barrios. Barrios didn't throw anything back either. Like 753 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: jimround To starts slow, but his opponents also start slow 754 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 4: because they are worried about what's coming back. He is 755 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: the best counterpuncher in boxing, or among the top, so 756 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: Ryan is also not really known as a guy that 757 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: will fill it up on offense either. He's only thrown 758 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 4: forty one punches around. I think Ryan Garcia should come 759 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 4: out to a fast start. He should try to bank rounds. 760 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: A lot of these guys don't bank rounds early because 761 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: they're worried what's going to come back. Easier said than done, 762 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: but don't get too overcome like Leo Sackers did. Yeah, 763 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: he could get a little bit over confident. I mean, 764 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: I know Ryan is pumped up, you know, and he 765 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: knows that that Tan's gonna start slow, so he might 766 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: be a little bit too overconfident and then run into 767 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: the big leg fan. 768 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: Oh, there's a worst case scenario for Ryan Garcia in this. 769 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: And I also agree with you guys that it's going 770 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: to be key what Ryan does with those early rounds 771 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: when Javonte is doing what Floyd did, which is downloading information, 772 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: taking his time figuring things out. The worst case scenario 773 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: is a fight that happened here in Las Vegas. It 774 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: was called Connello. It was when a mer Khan went 775 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: in there against Canelo, who does have a somewhat similar 776 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: style to even though they're not the same. Stance and 777 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: come typical for most of his career with the lack 778 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: of durability. Looked fantastic going in there with the speed 779 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: and the jab and controlling the distance. 780 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: But that thing is going to land. 781 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: When it landed, it was one of the tougher ones 782 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: to be ringside for, To be very honest with you, 783 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: it was a thudding, one punch, destructive knockout has Ryan 784 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: Garcia repaired. 785 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: Has there been enough time entering a third fight with Joe. 786 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: Goosen where some of those little idiosyncrasies that may not 787 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: get you in trouble against Emanuel Tago, of pulling backwards, 788 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 3: of keeping that chin out, of not putting the right 789 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: hand up to block the hook. 790 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: You just have to make one mistake, AGAs, that's it. 791 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: But I think he's corrected some of that because if 792 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: he saw him, you know, with Luke Campbell, you know 793 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: he was dropping his right hand and you know, we 794 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: all know he pulls up, he has his chin up 795 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: in the air. That's not a good thing. But when 796 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: you saw him with Fortuna, tried to land some shots 797 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: and you know he blocked them. 798 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 4: For Tune in the Southball, three of his last opponents 799 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 4: have been South Boss. He's for I think five now 800 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: in his career. But just to go back a little bit, 801 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: and we talk about Canelo stopping Khan, flip it around 802 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 4: Canelo fighting, yes, slow, start giving away rounds off of 803 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: inactivity and then stopping him in the eleventh. But for Canelo, 804 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: he's lost some of that power late. You know, it's 805 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 4: just gonna happen over the course of a career attrition 806 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 4: and all that. But that's an interesting thing in this 807 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: fight to me, is if Ryan could bank rounds early. 808 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: That's not his style is He's not a guy that's 809 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: gonna throw fifty sixty punches around. 810 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: He's not gonna, you know, score points. He's more of 811 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: a he's. 812 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: Literally like a plotter, Like he moves forward and he 813 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 4: looks for that one punch. So those early rounds are 814 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: gonna indicate a lot. If Ryan could bank rounds and 815 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: you can also get the attention of Javonte, then I 816 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: think it's gonna be really. 817 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: Interesting in the second half of the fight. 818 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 4: But if he sits back like a lot of these 819 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: guys have done, whether it's Hector Garcia or there was Barrios, 820 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 4: you know, throwing twenty punches around too, Like that's. 821 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: What you create openings for Tank. And you know he's 822 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: watching every little thing you do. Man, that's what he's 823 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: get hard to beat. Yeah, he lets you get confident. 824 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: He even loses some rounds and you know, lets you 825 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: hit him here and there and then all of a sudden. 826 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: He well, they used to say in basketball, Bill Russell 827 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: would purposely not block shots that he knew he could 828 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 3: block first three quarters to save it for the big 829 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: moments when he can absolutely swallow somebody. 830 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: There's some element that, bro, why do you think? And 831 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: nothing that's not his question. 832 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 3: Tank had the Floyd Arm around him from the beginning, 833 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: which puts a label on you. Tank is on the 834 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 3: wrong side of the police blotter a lot and maybe 835 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: in maybe you know, potentially serving some time after this 836 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: fight based on how his sentencing hearing goes in May. 837 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: He doesn't get pound for pound respect, and I think 838 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: it's it's it's we're at the point now where it's like, 839 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: what else does he have to do. He's moving weight classes, 840 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: he's fighting all different kinds of fighters, Like he's an 841 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: absolutely complete fighter. 842 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: If he's not one of the ten best boxers in 843 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: this game today, who. 844 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: Is I mean? And I think he should get that 845 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: respect that talking about. I mean, look what Leo Santa Cruz, 846 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: Roly Romero, Gamboa Pedraza, all the all those guys, they're 847 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: they're top guys. You know, I don't Ryan has never 848 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: fought anybody like that, you know, And he and Tank beats, 849 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 2: i mean, destroys this guys. Mario Barrio is a good 850 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: fighter too, and I think that this is what this 851 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: is why Tank won this fight too. You know, I 852 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: think you know he he beats uh Brian Garcia in 853 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: an impressive fashion, knocks him out. I think that's gonna 854 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: put him up there over the top, over the top. 855 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: Do you think it's his best win? If Tank beats 856 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: the best one. 857 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: As long as Ryan shows us the danger, it presents 858 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: the level of danger that we expect that he can. Yes, 859 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: I think this would be. 860 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: When we asked Tank and what he did in the 861 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 3: New York City press conference, like is this the best 862 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: fighter you ever thought? He is quick to say no, 863 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: I don't think it is. But it's the most dangerous. 864 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 3: It's the biggest fight for him. 865 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: It's the most dangerous. 866 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 2: Right now, I have Padraza as Tank's best win, and 867 00:34:52,800 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: then I have Cruz too. Oh yeah, I const it 868 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: was the one hand. 869 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 4: Then he did show a lot of boxing ability in that. 870 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 4: I think Gravonta Davis' i Q is so underrated. They 871 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 4: think of him as just a knockout guy. But like 872 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 4: you said, he sitting traps and all that. But if 873 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 4: he's able to beat Ryan Garcia, and like you said, 874 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 4: if he's able to put up a good performance Ryan, 875 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 4: it will be his best win. 876 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 2: It will be because I do think he has respect 877 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: for him. 878 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 4: That's why they put in all these claus and you 879 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 4: know Ryan's figuring out too, It's why they're supposedly sending 880 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 4: spies about that. 881 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: Rob. 882 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: Well, you've been in this game a long time today 883 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: and that was. 884 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: Where I didn't have that money to hire spy you. 885 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: So Leondard LP are made with emotions is claiming that 886 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: they have hired somebody that's in the camp of Ryan 887 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 3: Garcia and is regularly reporting back all the good and 888 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: the bad. 889 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: Does that happen a lot? 890 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure it does. You know, there's there's a bunch 891 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: of guys that are going to be talking, you know, 892 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: spawned partners at eight if I could pick up some 893 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: extra money, like you know, hey, I'll let you know 894 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: what's going on over here. But at the end of 895 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: the day, hey, by Ryan said, it really doesn't matter 896 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 2: because it's them in the ring, you know, with their 897 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 2: talents that it doesn't matter. They they know, each of 898 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: them know what their game plans are, and that's the 899 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: way boxing is. But it's always I think it creates, 900 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: you know, head games. You know, Hey, you know you 901 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: got dropped with the body shot, and you know I'm 902 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 2: gonna do the same thing. And you know, if it 903 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: lets you get to your head, it gets in your head, 904 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: then that's gonna be a problem. But I don't think, 905 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: you know, Ryan seems pretty comfortable about that. Yeah, some 906 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 2: tank herd that somebody dropped them with a body shot. Okay, 907 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: big deal, it happened. 908 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: Knocked Raylard told me he got knocked out before. 909 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, the best, the best. 910 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 911 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: Did you see there was some footage of Canelo sparring. 912 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 4: I think it was Rashidi Ellis maybe, and Canelo was 913 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 4: up against the ropes and he was literally shelled up, 914 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: just like in the Bevall fight, and he's taking shot 915 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 4: punishment and someone leaked it or whatever and it showed 916 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 4: up on Twitter and it's like, oh my god, look 917 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 4: at this Cano is getting beat up and sparring. Like 918 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 4: doesn't men like recur to you that he's preparing for 919 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 4: a potential Bevoll rematch and Beebo's gonna put up against 920 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: the rope So he's working on things exactly like sparring. 921 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 4: It's getting out of control with the leaking of sparring stuff. 922 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 4: And Mike Coast Chris Jury always talking about sparring, like, 923 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 4: oh I spar with Canelo, I spar with this guy, 924 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 4: and I'm thinking about sparring and this won't apply to you, 925 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 4: but it apply to me. 926 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: And it's like the boxers. 927 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 4: Sparring is like their little, like inside world that we're 928 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 4: not allowed to get in yet. 929 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: On specific you don't know about it. You rarely hear 930 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: about it, or at least you used to not hear 931 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: about it. 932 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,959 Speaker 1: Now we're seeing it about a four beat flood Mayweather baby. 933 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 4: But it's interesting to mean the whole sparring world because 934 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 4: it's the one thing that the boxers have where there's 935 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 4: supposed to be no cameras rolling, it's supposed to be 936 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 4: working on things, no media involved. It's like your little 937 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 4: fraternity in there. Oh I spar with that guy. I 938 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 4: spared that guy, and we we hear little things about it, 939 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 4: but we don't know anything about sparring sessions. 940 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: It's fair. 941 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 2: I mean, there's the every every fighter has their their 942 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 2: their training camp. You know, however they want to move 943 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: the training camp. But look, one round, two rounds, you 944 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 2: might just want to work on defense, covering up, countering, 945 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 2: just working nothing but jabs. Nothing about jabs to the body, 946 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: you know, the different combinations. 947 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'd like to see the footage of 948 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,479 Speaker 1: Pauli and Connor. Didn't we say? No, we haven't really 949 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: and I and I dropped them. I've talked to people 950 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: that were there and they have the story. I hope 951 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: one day that that's. 952 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: Gotta be one of the most infamous sparring sessions. 953 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: Without question, without question, did you and Oscar spar ahead 954 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: of the night? 955 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: He was too small? 956 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: Man? 957 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 5: He was. 958 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: He was a one thirty two pounder. I was always 959 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: the bigger guy, the stronger guy. Guy, you know what 960 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean. 961 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: Has a video on his phone of Dana Whitey and 962 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: like you were like the baddest motherfucker and boxing was 963 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: you know that. 964 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 2: My dad tells me a story about all the time, 965 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: like tough, tough son of a bitch. You say that blood, Yeah, 966 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 2: tough son of you say that. 967 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: I like you had a great. 968 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: Popped out. I've heard story. 969 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 4: I wasn't like I think a bunch a couple of 970 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: your fights, But my dad would tell me, like this 971 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,479 Speaker 4: guy right here. 972 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: I came to fight, man, I came to fight. That's 973 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: what people want to see. They want to see, and 974 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 2: I got the old school blood no blood, whatever, head buds, elbows, 975 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: whatever it took. 976 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: That's how your pops taught you. 977 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: That's the way old school that's teaching your son. Now 978 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 2: it's beautiful school boxing. 979 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, But Geo's got flashy skills. He does. 980 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: You see him? 981 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: I want to see him back on showtime his career. 982 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 2: He will go back SR. 983 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: Let's bring this home on the idea of who wins 984 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: this fight and why. 985 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 3: A big part of the narrative is what we don't 986 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: know about Ryan Garcia and look, he's going to have 987 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 3: his chance to make that leap in the toughest matchup 988 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 3: to date. Is there anything we don't know about Tank Davis? 989 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: We assume his chin is great and that if it 990 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: goes to a war, he appears to be built for that. 991 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: But what have we actually seen up to this point 992 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 3: in the history of Germanta tank. 993 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: Davis either being hurt or needing to dramatically alter his 994 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: game plan in the face of opposition. Dan He's largely 995 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: been in control of these fights. 996 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 4: I think of the Gamboa fight, but that is also 997 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 4: a he wasn't He wasn't tanked yet, but I don't 998 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 4: know what was going on outside of the ring. And 999 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 4: makes some weight issues he had those early on his 1000 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 4: so much mature now, so much more mature, a totally 1001 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 4: different guy. But in that fight, he was tagged a lot, 1002 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 4: he was getting hit. He did have to change his 1003 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 4: game plan. And you look at the East Act Cruise 1004 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 4: fight and that of course was because of the hand injury. 1005 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 4: And he showed that he could win with just a 1006 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 4: jeb and he had to have a you know, a 1007 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 4: second game plan and just on the fly, which is 1008 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 4: really really impressed. 1009 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 2: Skills, pay the bills. 1010 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 4: We've seen the knockouts, we know the low punch output, 1011 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 4: we know the downloading the data, even though I hate 1012 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 4: that term, but we haven't seen him really stung. 1013 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 2: We haven't seen him really hurt. Part of me wants 1014 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: to see that Saturday night. 1015 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 4: I always want to see, like a guy like Jackson 1016 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 4: or like Floyd when he got stung by Mosley. 1017 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: I want to see some reward against first fight. 1018 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: I want to see him battle through something. But you 1019 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: know what, we might never see this guy's get hurt. 1020 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: You know, they're so young right now and fast to me, 1021 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: like someone like Roy Jones when he was coming up, man, 1022 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 2: I mean defensively, nobody, nobody would catch him, you know, 1023 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: I guess. I guess as he got older, then he 1024 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 2: got caught. You know. So I think guys like like 1025 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 2: you're talking about, like Dronta Shakur, because their their skills 1026 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: are so incredible, you know, they're they're so much little 1027 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 2: things going on in there, like the small movements, the precisioning, 1028 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: the time, and you know the way. It's a different 1029 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: level of the fighters, Like you don't know until you 1030 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: get in there with a guy like that. But going 1031 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: back to getting hurt, they might never get hurt because 1032 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: of their skills, you know what. Once they say early early, yeah, 1033 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 2: and as you age and you get older, you know 1034 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 2: you you you stand. Your reflexes are not the same 1035 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 2: Roy like Roy you see them fight like last month. 1036 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah you had Anthony. There's not more. 1037 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: But it really is a competitive It breaks my heart. 1038 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we love them so much. Really hurts you all. 1039 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 3: Right, before we close with our predictions for this fight, 1040 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 3: and by the way, we're gonna have andre Ward in 1041 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 3: the studio top of the hour here, don't miss it. 1042 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: We love what Tanks put together. 1043 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 3: It's a career highlight reel of brutal and exciting and 1044 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 3: amazing knockouts. Everyone's got a favorite, So the three of 1045 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 3: us have decided to pick ours and present them to 1046 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 3: you today. 1047 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: Raul Marquez Dimante. 1048 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: Very good each time, getting better every time. 1049 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: Hometown of Mexico, say that I cannot say that was. 1050 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,959 Speaker 2: A border in Texas. Bronsville, Texas, my Tomato's little town by. 1051 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 3: You get the first pick here, the great career of 1052 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: Javonte Davis. We're going to run the highlight. 1053 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: We're going to react to it. What's your favorite knockout 1054 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: in tanks run? 1055 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 2: Well? For me, I mean it has to be when 1056 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: you fought uh Romero, you know, because of all the 1057 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 2: all the trash talking with Roy and Tank. It was 1058 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: you know, it was exciting then just the way as 1059 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: we see right there, you know, like you know Tank. 1060 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: Oh dude, that's Floyds hat and stuff. 1061 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, you know, Roly was in 1062 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 2: the fight. You know, he he had won some rounds 1063 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: and Tank was so smart, you know what he felt 1064 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: Roly's power. There's the left fan right there, and I 1065 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 2: think Romerio got a little bit over confident, and that's 1066 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: what Garcia can't do get a little bit too overconfident 1067 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: because he was cats at him early on. He won 1068 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 2: some rounds and you could see where Tank was holding 1069 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: him to and in the you know who felt his 1070 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 2: power and if yeah, he did felt his part, then 1071 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: Tag was holding him and doing the right thing, was respectful. 1072 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah the same time, dude. 1073 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: I mean he could get in get out. I mean, 1074 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: it's Floyd versus Ricky Cat and it's beautiful Dan. 1075 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: The memes that came from that, the Martin meme, it's 1076 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 2: almost too good. 1077 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Roly, he knows what he's doing. He puts 1078 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 1: himself in in the bulls. 1079 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 2: He threw the left hand, any circles out of there 1080 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: in case he didn't go down or whatever. He was 1081 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: cats him again. He's one of the best counter punchers 1082 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 2: up to Floyd. I mean, excuse me. 1083 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 3: Was Yeah, great knockout, But you get the second choice 1084 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 3: here of the career of Tank Davis. 1085 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: Take us there. 1086 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 4: Oh it's Leo Santa Cruz. This is one of the 1087 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 4: best knockouts in the history of boxing. I mean, this 1088 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 4: should be played on highlight reels for years and years. 1089 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 4: Leo Santa Cruz was leading in this fight. And for 1090 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 4: some reason, as you'll see here one punch third. You 1091 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 4: can't throw the same punch twice. You can't throw the 1092 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 4: same punch three times to a vicious CounterPunch Likeona Davis, 1093 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 4: oh upper but nonetheless, which is one of the hardest 1094 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 4: punches the land. 1095 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: And he is out cold, you know, las wind and ghosts. 1096 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: That's where he went, you know, And. 1097 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: That is perfect. And you know what, like Tex said, 1098 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 2: you know, why would he throw the same right hand 1099 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: three times? And and he was he was timing him, 1100 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: he was watching that. He let him get confident, boom 1101 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 2: the second one, and then. 1102 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: He would Halloween Night, Alamodome. That was a special fight. 1103 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: One thirty Tank moved down and wait for that one. 1104 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: That was that stretch of three straight fights on pay 1105 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: per view and three different divisions for tank disastrousnock. 1106 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 4: We were just talking about how the low output a 1107 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 4: tank early enough fight, it was really low against Sandakers 1108 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 4: and Santa Ceruse got out to a really good start. 1109 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 2: He was actually I think he doubled. 1110 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 4: Them up in the power department in terms of punches landed, 1111 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 4: and he got over confident, over confident. 1112 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: That's ceiling sleep a little bit. That's a that's the key. 1113 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: You gotta stay very focused and control for I'm talking 1114 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 2: for right and control that range. 1115 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 1: You're talking about me in my life, my career. 1116 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, over confident, just. 1117 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: Like the first rule and energy. We have a no 1118 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: eye contact rule showbox the new generation because we can 1119 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: throw each other off with just the blink of an eye. 1120 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: I went up and down Tank's career. 1121 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to kind of pick an oldie but goody 1122 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 3: that people don't remember. Let's go back to June twenty 1123 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 3: sixteen Seminole Hard Rock Hotel Casino in Florida. Mario Antonio 1124 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 3: Macias was the journeyman guy that came through at that point. 1125 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 3: He had a bunch of losses, but he was looking 1126 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 3: to try to take Tank deep. Tank wearing the huge 1127 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 3: shorts in this one. 1128 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: But look, Tank sometimes can do ridiculous shit like Roy 1129 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 1: Jones type shit, leaping right hook around the guard hook, 1130 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: just just a thing of beauty. And look it was 1131 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: a delay. It was a delay. The fight's over, that's 1132 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happens. He can do that stuff. 1133 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: He can wait for rounds and pick out the one moment. 1134 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: He's a spectacular fighter. But some of these early ones. Man, 1135 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: these guys, did you can't see that coming? 1136 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 4: Come on, dude, A lead right is one of the 1137 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 4: best punches in boxing. So pretty like Floyd made a 1138 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 4: whole career on throwing that lead right right. 1139 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 2: It's on the punch. You see too often that Conrad. 1140 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: Getting off his feet doing the Roy Jones I mean 1141 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: that was if they could replay that again, that's like, 1142 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: look when he throws that right that. 1143 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 2: You know we talked about Roe Jones like counter right hook, 1144 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: you know, Roy Jones like the roosters. You know, it's 1145 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 2: like like a rooster kick, you know, like they kicked. 1146 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 2: That's exactly what's doing. Looks like a rooster boom with 1147 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 2: the right hook, right, yeah, yea. 1148 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah right, head away with the cocks. You know 1149 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? I saw that. I saw that that 1150 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: picture that leak that time. Did you say. 1151 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous? 1152 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 3: Let's close it with a kiss here this Saturday night 1153 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 3: showtime pay per view. Well, I want to respect you 1154 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 3: on the broadcast. Are you allowed to lean and make 1155 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 3: a prediction publicly? 1156 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you are I can? I mean 1157 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: that's not yeah, why not? 1158 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: Who wins this fighting? Why? I want to know? 1159 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think it's it's going to be 1160 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 2: some slow rounds early on, you know, just like you know, 1161 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: you know the way Tank fights, and I don't know 1162 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: if Ryan's going to take advantage of that, which he 1163 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 2: should have put those rounds in the bag just in case. 1164 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: But and then you know, middle round, some good exchanges, 1165 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 2: people are gonna get excited that both of them might 1166 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 2: get rocked, which we want to see that, and you know, 1167 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 2: we we like we talked about the whole show, we 1168 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 2: never seen a Tank uh rocked, like really heard or down. 1169 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 2: I mean I could see him maybe going down, getting caught, 1170 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: going down, getting back up. 1171 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 3: Oh he's but he once predicted that flood woul get 1172 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 3: dropped by Canelo that didn't go. 1173 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know Tank, you know he's got that 1174 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 2: dog in him. Man, he's he's he's I think he's 1175 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 2: another level. I already think he's at that level. And 1176 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 2: I think throughout the whole fight that we've been talking about, 1177 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 2: like he's a he's a thinking man in there. He's 1178 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 2: always thinking, trying to set you up, looking for those openings. 1179 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: Let you get get get confident, let you land some 1180 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 2: good shot. 1181 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: But inevitably he's gonna find them money. 1182 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, But then you know, I think in the maybe 1183 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go two ko round nine. I think he's 1184 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 2: gonna fight that. 1185 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: Area's to find the betting man. Where do you go. 1186 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 2: My prediction is the fans are gonna win. 1187 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1188 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: I hope both teams play well. Yeah. 1189 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 4: I actually do hope it's a competitive, fun fight for 1190 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 4: the sake of boxing, because I'm always looking out for 1191 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 4: the health of the sport. But it's really hard to 1192 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 4: pick against Jonathan Davis. I think right now in driftings 1193 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 4: round seven through twelve you can get plus two twenty 1194 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 4: for a tank stop plus money in round seven two though, 1195 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 4: which a lot of people are picking. But I do 1196 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 4: think it's going to be a closer fight than people expect. 1197 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 4: I think that Ryan Speed his length, that that stick 1198 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 4: Jeb that he puts out there, the range finder, and 1199 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 4: the left hand. 1200 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he's talking about it. 1201 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 4: He's a one dimensional fighter, but his one If your 1202 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 4: one dimension is better than other guys their whole parts, 1203 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 4: then it's a damn good weapon to have. I think 1204 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 4: it will be a very close fight, but it's hard 1205 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 4: to pick against Tank. I just hope that it's a 1206 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 4: fight where a rematch. 1207 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 2: Afterwards is talked about. 1208 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: Can Ryan win this fight? 1209 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 3: I say yes, he has the athleticism, he has the want. 1210 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 3: Can his skills have making another leap under Joe Goosen? 1211 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,879 Speaker 1: It's possible. Is it as likely though? 1212 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 3: No, It's more likely that Tank Davis gets this stunk 1213 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 3: because I think he's that great. It's time to get 1214 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 3: you guys done, and I've been so thankful. Dan Kenobio 1215 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 3: from John Boy Media. Inside Boxing Live with Chris al 1216 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 3: Jerry Kompia Box. You know he protects the sport on 1217 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 3: Twitter even if the haters get on and thank you 1218 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 3: sir for joining. You need to plug anything the rest 1219 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 3: of the no. 1220 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 4: Just follow Inside Boxing Live on YouTube and our socials. 1221 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 4: Chris al Jerry just landed. 1222 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 2: Out of the cage. 1223 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: The handsome guy. He knows how to eat well well. 1224 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 4: Nothing worse than eating a terrible meal and going on 1225 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 4: Instagram and seeing Chris and Chris has. 1226 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: Just had avocado again. 1227 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 3: And Raoul Marcus Showtime Boxing. 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It's about 1287 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 3: the Hall of Famer, the fantastic broadcaster and the guy 1288 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 3: who really right Olympic gold medalist but really made his 1289 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 3: name as a pro here on Showtime in the Super 1290 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 3: six boxing series and then went on to even you know, 1291 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 3: amazing great fights beyond the. 1292 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: Parafights with Sergeykovlov and all that. Check out this trailer 1293 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: ahead of June second for s Og Book of Ward. 1294 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen on tral my career wasn't perfect. I 1295 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 5: made mistakes. Trouble's gonna come. How are you gonna respond 1296 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 5: to me? 1297 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 2: Here? 1298 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: For don't go put out here. 1299 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 5: I'm thinking about my journey to that point. I'm thinking 1300 00:52:53,880 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 5: about my struggles. You have to understand what I'm been through. 1301 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 5: My bay area of your kid, through and through. It's 1302 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 5: a major street culture. Both parents are drug addicted. My 1303 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 5: dad was heroin and that's my hero. 1304 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: His daddy brought him to the gym and I said, 1305 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: the little kid got a little pop. You could tell 1306 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 1: the kid was different. I think you're alien for help. 1307 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: The kid has acted such a rest of you. 1308 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 5: My dad never stopped fighting, but he had a heart 1309 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 5: attack in forty six years of age. For Andre, it 1310 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 5: was devastating. It took me hit the rock bottom to 1311 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 5: where I finally is again and communicate with God again. 1312 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 5: I felt a burden to finish everything we started. 1313 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest champions from the history of 1314 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: folks sing. His brother Andre Wall was great. 1315 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 5: Boxing has devoured many great men. I'm going to do 1316 00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 5: things my way. 1317 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 2: People don't identify with a guy who has chosen as 1318 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 2: his nickname son of God. 1319 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 5: I said this early in my career. You know I'm 1320 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 5: gonna retire from boxing. I'm not gonna leve box and retirement. 1321 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 5: This was all the plan from day one. 1322 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 1: The only thing you ain't done in boxing is lose 1323 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 1: what stay to stick around for. 1324 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 5: I wanted to have a body of work, not just 1325 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 5: in the rain, but as a man. We close this chapter. 1326 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 5: This book is closed, s og the Book of Ward 1327 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 5: only unsure time streaming with Paramount plus. 1328 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: And if that teaser didn't get you fired up, it's 1329 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: even better the film. I was moved by this andre Ward, 1330 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,479 Speaker 1: the first ballot Hall of Famer, and so many other things. Father, 1331 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, son, so many things. Husband. 1332 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 5: I love the. 1333 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 3: Phrase that's in the start of that teaser because you're like, 1334 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 3: you know, you don't know me until you know my story. 1335 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think us who felt we even 1336 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: knew you to a high level. And you know, you've 1337 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 1: always been one of my favorite fighters. 1338 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 3: I've always enjoyed interviewing you because you're You're tough, you're honest, 1339 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 3: but you are a next level honest and open in 1340 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 3: this film that we've never seen before. 1341 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for doing that because it 1342 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: helps me understand you the man on a deeper level. 1343 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 1: Uh why now? And this is not your your your 1344 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: natural move? 1345 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 5: So why why? 1346 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: In general? 1347 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 5: A man? It's you know, it's a time and a 1348 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 5: place for everything you know, And I knew early on 1349 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 5: Like when I went when the world first saw me 1350 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 5: in two thousand and four. I was fresh off I 1351 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,240 Speaker 5: was I was rough. I was fresh off the streets 1352 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 5: and just giving my life back to God and was 1353 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 5: trying to figure it out, you know. But I also 1354 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 5: had study boxing, and I knew that, you know. I 1355 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 5: didn't want to come in with the with the same 1356 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 5: old rags to Richard story I grew up in the project. 1357 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 5: I didn't really want to lead with that. I wanted 1358 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 5: people to get to know me for who I was 1359 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 5: at that time, embrace me. And here's the other thing. 1360 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 5: I'm an eighties baby. So I grew up like, we 1361 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 5: don't tell our business. Like the world we live in 1362 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 5: today is not that it's no such. 1363 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: Thing as a therapist, you know, don't be telling people 1364 00:55:59,120 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: your business. 1365 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 5: Oh you know, we just that's how I was raised. 1366 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 5: So the world we live in today is a lot different. 1367 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 5: And I just I knew the story would be told 1368 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 5: one day, and I wanted to tell it in my 1369 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 5: words and tell it the right way. 1370 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 3: And here we are look at a powerful film that 1371 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 3: focuses on your personal character. And it's like, I say, 1372 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 3: love him or hate him, because not everything you did 1373 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 3: and decisions you made business wise, boxing wise, and to 1374 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 3: be fair, we didn't know a lot about what you 1375 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 3: were dealing with the injury, the major injuries, Like there's 1376 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,479 Speaker 3: a lot of things that come out in this film, 1377 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 3: even if you followed Andre's career that we didn't know. 1378 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 3: But you did stand firm to your principles along the way, 1379 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 3: and there were times as a journalist and fant I'm like, 1380 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 3: what is he doing? It's been out a long time, 1381 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 3: you know. And then of course when you retire, everybody's 1382 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 3: knocking for you to come back. That seemed to be 1383 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 3: important from you from the beginning that I'm going to 1384 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 3: live my life and operate my career this way and 1385 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 3: whether the media or the fans love or hate me, 1386 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 3: they're just going to have to deal with it. 1387 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the the dislike or the 1388 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 5: questions get get a lot more, you know, notoriety than 1389 00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 5: they should. 1390 00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: You know. 1391 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 5: So there was a lot of respect during those tough times, 1392 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 5: when you know, going through a lawsuit, there's a lot 1393 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 5: of support and a lot of genuine people just saying 1394 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 5: do we just want to see you? Then you had 1395 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,439 Speaker 5: the other element where it's like all he's wasting his career. 1396 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 5: What is he doing? Oh my gosh. But I think 1397 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 5: the part that the media lost sight of is that 1398 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 5: do you guys realize that, you know, money's going out 1399 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 5: to fight for something I believe in, but no money's 1400 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 5: coming in. And that's one of the hardest times, I mean, 1401 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 5: probably bar losing my father, that I've ever had to 1402 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 5: deal with. You're not humanized in that way. It's just 1403 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 5: get in there and perform for us. We want to 1404 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 5: see you. Tough time, but it was something I had 1405 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 5: to go through, and it was something that was necessary. 1406 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 5: And also say this, you know, I knew, I knew 1407 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 5: my role in boxing. You know, as I was going 1408 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 5: through that lawsuit, I started to realize that my my, my, 1409 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 5: my calling in the sport is not to be the 1410 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 5: next Floyd Mayweather. It's to be the first andre Ward 1411 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 5: do it the way I feel led to do it. 1412 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 5: Make try to make the right decisions. You don't make 1413 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 5: them all right, and whatever may come may come, but 1414 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 5: stand on that and hopefully that'll be a blueprint for 1415 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 5: the next generation. 1416 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: Well, the biggest thing I think we can respect as 1417 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 1: fans in in my rooms was that you did it 1418 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: your way. You probably could have come back a lot. 1419 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: I'd love to get into that, actually, but uh, you know, 1420 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: there's always money there. 1421 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 5: But you stood firm. 1422 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: You stood firm in a lot of ways. 1423 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 3: You're one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen, and 1424 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 3: that's undisputable. First ballot Hall of Famer, retired undefeated. 1425 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: Did it your way? Do you feel like you maximize 1426 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: the gifts you were given and fought everybody you could 1427 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: and when you when you do look back on it, 1428 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: are you one hundred percent fulfilled with what the couplers. 1429 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 5: I'm at peace. I'm at peace, not a warrior in me, 1430 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 5: the competitor in me. I want more. Yeah, you know, 1431 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 5: I can always see somebody and my brain starts to 1432 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 5: go to that place. Man, I can get him. I 1433 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 5: can get him. 1434 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 1: Man. 1435 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 5: I just probably need just six months, seven months, couple 1436 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 5: tune ups like that. That's not going away a competitor. 1437 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be sixty doing that. But deep down, I 1438 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 5: did it the way it was supposed to be done, 1439 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 5: and I believe I maxed out. You know, I didn't 1440 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 5: cheat the sport. I didn't I didn't cut corners. I 1441 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 5: maxed out. I got every ounce of God gave I got. 1442 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 5: I gave God back every ounce of talent and gifts 1443 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 5: an effort that I possibly could, and I gave the 1444 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 5: Sport my all. But I couldn't give the Sport all 1445 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 5: of me. I had to leave some for my family 1446 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 5: and my loved ones, and then the other things that 1447 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 5: I got going on in life, like this project. You know, 1448 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 5: I know that you know I have this in me 1449 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 5: to create and do things like this, and you use 1450 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 5: it all up in a boxing ring. You can't do it. 1451 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: Well. 1452 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 3: You were executive producer of this project and of course 1453 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 3: comes out June second on Showtime in paramount streaming channels 1454 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 3: s OG the. 1455 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: Book of Ward. Why was it important for you to 1456 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: take a hands as big of a hands a role? 1457 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: Because I asked people that work at Showtime because I 1458 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 1: was curious how big of a hands on roll did 1459 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: he take? It seemed like you wanted not in a 1460 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: vain way, I want to control it, but there was 1461 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: a message you were trying to put out with this film. 1462 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: It hit me that seemed to be a big focus. 1463 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 5: Well, you know the team at a showtime, you know Nima, 1464 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 5: Steven Espinoza, and you know everybody at spring Hill. You know, 1465 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 5: so too many to name. That's that's that was their 1466 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 5: vision from the beginning. And you know, I'm just I'm 1467 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 5: just a hands on type of fighter. I was like 1468 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 5: that in my career with the business side, and I'm 1469 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 5: like that pretty much in any project that I'm involved in. 1470 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: It. 1471 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 5: I know how to, you know, stand down and give 1472 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 5: way when I need to. But I'm very collaborative and 1473 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,439 Speaker 5: I have great ideas, I have insight, and it worked 1474 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 5: out great. And I think that I think everybody's gonna 1475 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 5: enjoy this, and I think it's gonna be a lot 1476 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 5: of eyebrow raising, uh in a good way. But the 1477 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 5: time was now to talk about these things and and 1478 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 5: I'm excited. 1479 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 3: And obviously it couldn't have been hard to tell, you know, 1480 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 3: the backstore of your family. I didn't realize, how, you know, 1481 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 3: when you were going through a very pivotal time in 1482 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 3: your late teens. You're an Olympic prospect, but things in 1483 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 3: your family are not good, and it could have been easy. 1484 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of us had moments where 1485 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 3: we went down the wrong road a bit. I didn't 1486 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 3: realize you were further down that and everything could have 1487 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 3: could have gone away. And I look at that as like, man, 1488 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 3: it's a major turning point and you. 1489 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 1: Pass the test. Yes, it could have I mean how 1490 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: often do you think of that? Like it could be 1491 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: completely my story? Like you have a lot of control 1492 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: over your legacy and narrative because of how definitely you 1493 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: you you you maneuvered and you had to get up 1494 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: off the camvus sometimes to do that. But you have 1495 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: that control. But like, how often do you think about that? 1496 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: It really? Like this could be an entire different ending 1497 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: right now. 1498 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 5: I think about it often. I think about it often. 1499 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 5: I was thinking about the other day and it brings 1500 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 5: me to tears, because you know, this is one reason 1501 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 5: I also wanted to put this out the way that 1502 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 5: we put it out is, you know, I think I 1503 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 5: think my harshest critic may walk away and they still 1504 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 5: may not be a fan, but they may walk away 1505 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 5: and say I understand it, respect a little bit better. 1506 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 5: And somebody that's been supporting me can walk away and 1507 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 5: say that's why I was supporting this guy all these years. Man, 1508 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 5: I missed the Olympics by this much and I didn't 1509 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 5: care about it. I didn't I didn't care. I was 1510 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 5: I was using drugs, I'm drinking I'm numbing the pain 1511 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 5: for my father's death. I'm in the streets and I've 1512 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 5: been this prospect my whole life, since I was nine 1513 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 5: years old. I didn't have a normal childhood. I gave 1514 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 5: up a childhood to be this elite guy and you 1515 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 5: just get burnt out and you get tired. Plus life 1516 01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 5: hits you, and it all hit me at one time, 1517 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 5: and I uttered the words, I don't care about the Olympics, 1518 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 5: I don't care what. I don't care, and I'm thankful. 1519 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 5: I had a man in Verge who was praying man 1520 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 5: and my mother at that time, she was doing good, 1521 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 5: getting her life back together. He says, son, if you 1522 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 5: lit this pass you by, you'll never You'll never live 1523 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 5: it down. And I fought him on it, like, no, 1524 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 5: I know what I'm doing it, but deep down I 1525 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 5: knew he was telling the truth. And I'm so glad 1526 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 5: I had somebody to look me in the face and 1527 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 5: be honest with you. 1528 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't about me, but I mean I 1529 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 3: hit a level of depression and substance abuse and walked 1530 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 3: away and dropped out of college and had and you know, 1531 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 3: so when I watching that, I look back on it 1532 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 3: and say, man, like, I'm so lucky to have come 1533 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 3: around and be where I am today. 1534 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: But I remember, you know what the voices were of, like, 1535 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, man, this isn't worth it, this, this 1536 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: isn't all this. You know, like, let's just it's not 1537 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 1: worth it. The pressure, it's just not worth it. 1538 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 3: But you found your way. Virgil Hunter, your trainer and 1539 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 3: father figure in a lot of ways. I didn't realize, man, 1540 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 3: you and your brother had moved in with him. We 1541 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 3: think of him as the calm voice, careless whisperer in 1542 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 3: the corner there. But I've got a lot, you know, 1543 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 3: an even deeper level of respect. I mean, do you 1544 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 3: look at Virgil as an angel? 1545 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 2: That? 1546 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Man, God, God definitely sent him to me. And 1547 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 5: I think at that time in his life I was 1548 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 5: sent to him. He was a you know, his son Jovan. 1549 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 5: He had been training his son, and you know, some 1550 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 5: stuff happened in the family and he wasn't able to 1551 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 5: you know, he's basically torn away from Jovan, and I 1552 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 5: stepped in at the right time and it he talked 1553 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 5: about he said, man, we save each other's life. So 1554 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 5: God definitely sent him to me. He was the right 1555 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 5: man for the job, and it's just amazing that we 1556 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 5: stick together the way that we did and we went 1557 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 5: as far as we did. And you know, he's not 1558 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 5: officially a Hall of Fame trainer, but he's a Hall 1559 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 5: of Fame trainer in my book, and a hall of 1560 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 5: Fame man. And we all we all need people, man, 1561 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 5: We need people. We need messengers, people to come at 1562 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 5: certain points and time in our life and be that voice, 1563 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 5: to be that support system and to be honest with 1564 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 5: us and keep you real when it's time to keep 1565 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 5: it real. 1566 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely in that regard. 1567 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,479 Speaker 3: And there's no shortage of prime voices in this film, 1568 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 3: from Michael Jordan, Marshawn Lynch to Dame Lillard and then 1569 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 3: obviously from a boxing standpoint, Roy Jr. I mean, Bernard Hopkins, 1570 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 3: all of our heroes, all of your heroes. Is there 1571 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 3: any level of pinch me when you see the final 1572 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 3: rough draft on this dock and you're like, I got 1573 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 3: MJ sitting down, breaking down my personal character, not me 1574 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 3: as a boxer, my personal character as a man. 1575 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 1: That that's a wake up call. 1576 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 5: It's a wake up call. It's crazy, it's surreal. And 1577 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 5: I almost didn't even almost didn't even ask him to 1578 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,959 Speaker 5: be in it. You know, my my, my brother who's 1579 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 5: the co director a Deontay Thompson of this film. He 1580 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 5: brought it up, and he's one of those voices in 1581 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 5: my life, like, man, you know, use your context. Man 1582 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 5: call him. He said, Bro, I'm not calling Mike. I'm 1583 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 5: not calling I'm not I'm not asking him to be 1584 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 5: in this. Many people are asking him to be in 1585 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 5: projects and he's probably gonna say no. I took him 1586 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 5: up on it. I called Larry Miller, former president of 1587 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 5: Jordan Brand, my good friend. He said, let me, let me, 1588 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 5: let me let me call him Mike. I'll see what's up. 1589 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 5: He said, Mike wants Mike wants you to call him yourself, 1590 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 5: call him. Okay, it was that easy. He flew to 1591 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 5: Charlotte and he knocked it out. So it's just it's crazy. 1592 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 5: We had like I think a total of forty two interviews. Yes, 1593 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 5: honestly they all can't make the cut, but we had 1594 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 5: we have forty two people be willing to. 1595 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 3: Well, here's here's what I liked about it as as 1596 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 3: a long time like inside Baseball Boxing guy who's covered 1597 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 3: this game and is on the boxing Twitter rumor, Mill 1598 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 3: and all that stuff. You know, it's like every time, 1599 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 3: like are they gonna touch on that? Oh, they touched 1600 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 3: on that day, but are they gonna hit that. They're 1601 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 3: gonna obviously they hit things. I didn't know about the 1602 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 3: level of the injuries that they showed on the screen. 1603 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 3: How much money you're paying out of pocket while you're 1604 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 3: out to repair this. 1605 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: Or that, and fans don't see that. You never wanted 1606 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: fans or opponents to see that. 1607 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 3: I don't think I've seen an athlete as committed to 1608 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 3: not showing in ring weakness as I did after watching 1609 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 3: this film. 1610 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 1: That's like old school battlefields. 1611 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 5: That's how I was raised. We don't, you know, Like again, 1612 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 5: this era is just it's interesting to me that we 1613 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 5: announce everything before it happens, and I get I get 1614 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 5: the benefits on the back end, you know, but it's 1615 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 5: also a downside too. We just kept everything quiet. We 1616 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 5: showed up on a night and we got it done, 1617 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 5: and injuries were part of it, you know, And it 1618 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 5: was just a wearing here. 1619 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Like I didn't have. 1620 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 5: I got an abnormal like drive about me and an 1621 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 5: abnormal work ethic, like I would always push the limit, 1622 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 5: like I needed verse, I needed other people other trainers. 1623 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 5: You know Edward Jackson, my other assistant trainer, to say, Bro, 1624 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 5: that's it, because I'm gonna find the biggest heel to 1625 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 5: run in training camp. I'm I'm gonna do that extra sprint. 1626 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go another five rounds and sparn. That catches 1627 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 5: up when you've been doing it since you've been nine, 1628 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 5: so you know, knee stuff and shoulders and you know 1629 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 5: you start get on the back half of your career. 1630 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 5: I'm spending more money for prehab trying to keep from getting. 1631 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 6: Injured than I am my actual training camp maintenance man, 1632 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,640 Speaker 6: maintenance to keep to keep the truck on the Yeah, 1633 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 6: there's so many great stories in terms of the rivalries 1634 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 6: and there you. 1635 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 3: Know what you walk through against Sergey kove Lev. If 1636 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 3: I look at your career, like if somebody said, describe 1637 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 3: to me if I'm like an MMA fan. We have 1638 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 3: a lot of MA fans in the show, describe to 1639 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,080 Speaker 3: me who andre Ward was as a boxer. Of course, 1640 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 3: you know me, I'm gonna go nineties lyrics and embarrass myself. 1641 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 3: But if there was a problem, you'll He'll solve it. 1642 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 1: And I say that as it is to say. 1643 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 3: You could fight every style, but there were fights that 1644 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 3: you had to fight every style in order to do it. 1645 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 3: The Michel Kestler win, which was the first round of 1646 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 3: the Super six boxing tournament, where you were not even 1647 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 3: remotely in the favorite conversation. 1648 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: You were the American young Is he really that good? 1649 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: Gold medalist? But what I remember people talking about Jermaine 1650 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: Taylor if they weren't talking. 1651 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 3: About the three Europeans, right, I remember they're talking about 1652 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 3: Durrell saying, you know what, this might be his time 1653 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 3: to shine. 1654 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 1: It turned out to be yours. 1655 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 3: But when you met Michle Kestler, and that was the okay, okay, okay, 1656 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 3: one of the favorites along with Carl Frotz and Arthur Abraham. 1657 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 1: You know what I forgot? And this doc reminded me 1658 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: how you made the decision ahead of time. 1659 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 3: The best way to fight this guy is to be physical, 1660 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 3: is to get in in that ass, so to speak. 1661 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: And he didn't respond well to that. 1662 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 5: He wasn't trying that way. You know a lot of 1663 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 5: times we win the fight, and my team before we fight, 1664 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,800 Speaker 5: we got to go out and train and execute ultimately 1665 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 5: on the night, but we see something and we know, 1666 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 5: like if I do my job. You're not beating me. 1667 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 5: That was what he saw on Mikel. Good fighter, but 1668 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 5: he needs you in a certain place. He's taught and 1669 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 5: trained his whole life to keep you on the end 1670 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,960 Speaker 5: of his punches. Let's you know, let's let's all play. 1671 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 1: Fights with were great, but he's allowed to counter from 1672 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: the outside, right, But I didn't. 1673 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 5: See any educated inside fighting. And the inside fighting for 1674 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 5: me was just arriving at that time. We had been 1675 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 5: working on it for two years prior it showed up 1676 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 5: in the Allen Green fight and a little before the 1677 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 5: Edison Miranda fight. So like at this stage with Kessl, 1678 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 5: it was it was the perfect time to test it 1679 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 5: out and to bring him to America and specifically Oakland 1680 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 5: and just you know, show him some hospitality. 1681 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if that fight was in Denmark, is it different. 1682 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,680 Speaker 5: Why they would have every time we got close, they 1683 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 5: would have made sure we broke. They would have never 1684 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 5: let me work on the inside. I probably would have 1685 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 5: had points taken for this or or something else. They 1686 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 5: would have made it difficult for me, But I still 1687 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 5: believe I'd have found a way. 1688 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 3: Like we think of you as boxer when you need to, 1689 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 3: we certainly think of you as you know. You can counter, 1690 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 3: you can make adjustments. But like when Sakiobko was knocking 1691 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 3: on your door, like okay, this man has to get grindy, 1692 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:08,599 Speaker 3: you got. 1693 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Grimy, Listen. 1694 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,600 Speaker 5: I don't get credit for my chin. I probably had 1695 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 5: one of the best chance pound for pound in my 1696 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 5: in my ten year two. 1697 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,600 Speaker 3: By the way, journal Blue knocked down to everybody, but 1698 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 3: I thought him first before I knew who he was. 1699 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: Ye. 1700 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 5: So, and I don't want to be known for a chan, 1701 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 5: but you want to be known for one if you 1702 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 5: need it. I don't get credit for that. I was 1703 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,640 Speaker 5: probably one of the toughest and meanest inside the ring 1704 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 5: pound for pound than anybody. And but it's funny that 1705 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 5: the boxing is what people pin. Why slick? 1706 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1707 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 5: No, I'm like Bruce Lee man, I'm formless. Whatever I 1708 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 5: need to be, I need to be because if I'm 1709 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 5: just a slick boxer, I'm maybe I beat covid LANV, 1710 01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 5: but not the way that I did, Or the Kestler 1711 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 5: fight is a lot harder. Froc is a lot harder. 1712 01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 5: Might not come out on top on the Beaker side, 1713 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 5: or if I do, I'm gonna take a lot more So. Yeah, 1714 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,640 Speaker 5: the narrative is slick boxer, but man, I can be 1715 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 5: what I need to be when I need to be, 1716 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 5: and you were able to. 1717 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 3: Get in the end a lot of big names in there, 1718 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 3: Chad Dawson, Carl Frotz, the two with kove Lev. I 1719 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 3: liked though that they did talk about a fight that 1720 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 3: didn't happen that very much could have. It's interesting because 1721 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 3: a big part of your narrative when I look back. 1722 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: Is I always felt I was very fair to you. 1723 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: I don't think everybody always was. 1724 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's sometimes a white or black 1725 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 3: thing subconsciously at times it's sort of like, you know, 1726 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,160 Speaker 3: you didn't talk a lot of trash, and they mentioned 1727 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 3: the doc you didn't act this clown. You were true 1728 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 3: to who you were along the way, and I always 1729 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 3: really respected that. But when Gnati Glovkin started knocking people 1730 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 3: through the screen and he had that smile, he became 1731 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 3: a media darling in a monster way. But when I 1732 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 3: look back on that, I feel like that fight could 1733 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 3: have happened, and I don't think you were standing in 1734 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 3: the way of it at all. 1735 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 5: No, I wasn't. We talk a little bit about that 1736 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,799 Speaker 5: in the dock, know his team didn't want it, period. 1737 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,640 Speaker 5: And I'm not a dude that you know. I'm not 1738 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 5: gonna try to embarrass you or anything like that, and 1739 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 5: I'm not a bully, but but but I'm real about 1740 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,799 Speaker 5: my work, and especially at that time with the lawsuit 1741 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 5: and stuff like that, when you start mentioning my weight 1742 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 5: class without mentioning my name, I'm gonna mention your name. 1743 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,840 Speaker 5: And when I started mentioning his name, we don't maybe 1744 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 5: two three years up the row, but publicly they're saying 1745 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,680 Speaker 5: something different and I had a problem with that. And 1746 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 5: you know, just to touch on a little bit about 1747 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 5: what you said about, you know, how fighters are marketed 1748 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 5: and different things like that. Man, some of that does 1749 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 5: have to do a race. And I'm not a person 1750 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,080 Speaker 5: that feels like anybody can block me. I feel like 1751 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 5: what God has for me is for me, and if 1752 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 5: it's mine, it's gonna be mine and nobody can stop it. 1753 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 5: That's how I feel. But there are factors at play, 1754 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 5: and I think for an African American fighter, we're supposed 1755 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 5: to act or be a certain kind of way. We 1756 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 5: can't be articulate and be clean. 1757 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 1: Cut because you're b because suddenly you're boring. 1758 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 5: I no, I'm saying that's what That's what shrug is 1759 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 5: an agreement, like like, I hate that, but that's what it. 1760 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 5: If you look at a Gonadi Gailufkin, you know, he 1761 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 5: came over here, and I love it because America is 1762 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 5: the land of you know, opportunity. But he was trying 1763 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 5: to find his way. But because the powers that be 1764 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 5: liked him and pushed him, they spoke for him when 1765 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 5: he was still trying to find his voice, and. 1766 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,599 Speaker 1: He was very exciting, and he was a media darling. 1767 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 1: And I love the man. But I feel like, you 1768 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: guys should have fought. There's not I don't. I mean, 1769 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,400 Speaker 1: I look back on that you should have fought. 1770 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 5: So these are the things that instead of trying to 1771 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,599 Speaker 5: be Floyd or be somebody else, these are the things 1772 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,600 Speaker 5: that I knew I had to stand for, walk for. 1773 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 5: And you're not gonna be liked for it, right, You're 1774 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 5: not gonna be always liked for it. But there was 1775 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 5: a lot, there is a lot of love to this day. 1776 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,479 Speaker 5: That stuff just doesn't get talked about. And but I'm 1777 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 5: content with that because I knew what my mission was, 1778 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 5: and I knew what my calling was. 1779 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 3: Absolutely your mission and your calling at the end of 1780 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 3: your career to just two fantastic fights with Sergei Covalv. 1781 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,640 Speaker 3: I set up that Kessler point for a reason, do 1782 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 3: you believe? And I think it was more apparent in 1783 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 3: the second fight because the first fight, you walk through hell, 1784 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 3: you got up off the canvas. 1785 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 1: You made those adjustments. 1786 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,559 Speaker 3: I hate, like you hate when people use the word 1787 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 3: robbery on that first fight, close fight, I thought you 1788 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 3: did enough because you took away his jab and when 1789 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 3: he's not able to build off his jab, he had 1790 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 3: nothing for you. Maybe he's leading the dance, but he 1791 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 3: had nothing for you. The second fight was different because 1792 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,720 Speaker 3: your mindset was different. Did you did you flash back 1793 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 3: to the Kessler got one and go, you know what 1794 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 3: if I. 1795 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,560 Speaker 1: Body this guy, if I out physical the bully and 1796 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 1: covid Lev, he may break. 1797 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,280 Speaker 5: Well I be. I beat covi Lev in the first fight. 1798 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 5: The second fight was one. Also in the first fight. 1799 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 5: I won two fights on that night. And what I 1800 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 5: mean is is, you know when I made the adjustment 1801 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 5: after the knockdown, I know I hadn't and that was 1802 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 5: me trying to come from behind. He couldn't. He wasn't 1803 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,680 Speaker 5: physically strong, which is strange because Covilev is strong with 1804 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,240 Speaker 5: his punches at the end if you lit him, if 1805 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:00,560 Speaker 5: you if you you know, he gets you at the 1806 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,600 Speaker 5: right range. But his physical strength is weak. And I 1807 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 5: was shocked at how physically weak you like. I could 1808 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 5: pick him up if I wanted to. Every time we 1809 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 5: got there. 1810 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,799 Speaker 1: I was shocked. He didn't body Canilo. He boxed Canelo. 1811 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 5: He couldn't. He's not really physically strong. So I unlocked 1812 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:17,280 Speaker 5: that in the first fight, and we knew going into 1813 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 5: the second fight. I'm like, dude, I've had twelve rounds 1814 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 5: with you. You're not gonna beat me. And you'll see 1815 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,680 Speaker 5: in the dock. All the issues that I had in 1816 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 5: that training can't bleed up to the fight. Was my knee. 1817 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 5: My knee kept swelling up, kept swelling up. The fight 1818 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 5: was almost canceled two or three times. That started weighing 1819 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 5: on me. I'm trying to stay focused. 1820 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 1: And a star would have delayed that that rematch, many 1821 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 1: of them it would have. And if you had lost 1822 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 1: that you could argue in hindsight, you know. 1823 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,560 Speaker 5: But I never said anything about it until, which is 1824 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 5: blowing me away to this point. And I say this 1825 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 5: about the first fight a lot of what you hear again, 1826 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 5: the all you got rob gets gets a lot of credit, 1827 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,439 Speaker 5: but it's a lot of people that says, you know, man, 1828 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,960 Speaker 5: I thought you pulled it out. Can't argue like I 1829 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 5: can't demand all you I won going away. I was 1830 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 5: a close he fought well in the first time, but 1831 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,720 Speaker 5: it's a you know, it's a fight that could have 1832 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 5: go could have gone either way by a round or two. 1833 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,840 Speaker 5: Fans gotta realize when a fight is that close, you 1834 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 5: can't have a demonstrative, oh you got robbed. Robbery can't 1835 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,320 Speaker 5: be in the question. When a fight is that close, 1836 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,640 Speaker 5: you can feel like I lost, But a fight that 1837 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,800 Speaker 5: that's close, you gotta you gotta you gotta concede to 1838 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,800 Speaker 5: the fact that met I thought you lost. But it 1839 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,559 Speaker 5: could have gone either way. But that was probably one 1840 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,400 Speaker 5: of the greatest comebacks I'm gonna say that I've seen 1841 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,280 Speaker 5: in boxing history. 1842 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,799 Speaker 1: Because it's hard to argue because of where. 1843 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 5: Who he was at that time, how dangerous he was. 1844 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 5: I'm coming up in wait, and you took a right 1845 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 5: cross direction in the second directly up you know, in 1846 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,519 Speaker 5: the second round, I mean you almost moved into it. 1847 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 2: It was it was and I did. 1848 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,560 Speaker 5: It was like it was a rookie mistake, Like I 1849 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 5: had my left hand down and I swayed back, telegraphed 1850 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 5: my right hand and just went straight into us. It 1851 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,599 Speaker 5: was like double impact. But that fight doesn't get credit. 1852 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 5: I don't get the credit for that fight, not just 1853 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 5: to win, but but the comeback like that. 1854 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna second because sometimes you're in the wrong place 1855 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 3: at the wrong time. Tim Bradley does not get credit 1856 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 3: for your Your colleague on ESPN does not get credit 1857 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 3: for the two major injuries you persevered through in the 1858 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,759 Speaker 3: first Pachia fight and his resistance to to take. 1859 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,680 Speaker 1: A foot off the gas. Did I think he won 1860 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 1: that fight? No? 1861 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 3: Did I think that he was the guy coming forward 1862 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 3: the entire fight, through everything, and he got so villainized 1863 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,759 Speaker 3: from you robbed Pakia that he never got. 1864 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 1: To enjoy it. Do you feel like you never got 1865 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 1: to enjoy what was such a breakthrough moment in that 1866 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,640 Speaker 1: first fight because of the scoring controversy. 1867 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 3: No. 1868 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 5: No, because it wasn't a controversy to me, right to 1869 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 5: the media, to the fans. It wasn't a controversy to me, 1870 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 5: to some fans. It's perspective. I want you to have 1871 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 5: been through some battles in the sport, meaning like dealing 1872 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 5: with media and stuff like that. You know what to 1873 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 5: expect you. I mean, you know, I wasn't happy about it. 1874 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,680 Speaker 5: It gave me some perspective, like, man, why don't I 1875 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 5: keep doing this when I'm giving my all and it 1876 01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,400 Speaker 5: never seems to be good enough. You you have those thoughts, 1877 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 5: but it wasn't a controversy to me. It was that's 1878 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 5: the price you pay when you win a lot. People 1879 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 5: don't always like winners, they say they do, but when 1880 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 5: you win a lot and then and then you beat 1881 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,640 Speaker 5: a guy that you're really not supposed to beat, and 1882 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 5: then you upset the apple car. Like when I got 1883 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,640 Speaker 5: knocked down, I could almost hear a collective Ah, we 1884 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 5: thought we knew that was gonna happen. And then to 1885 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 5: come back and dig your way back in. It's hard 1886 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 5: for people, especially media members. You know this the same 1887 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,560 Speaker 5: man I was wrong. Yeah, yeah, it's always got to 1888 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 5: be something else. So I just understood what I was dealing. 1889 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 3: I'm wrong on a daily basis of my marriage. So 1890 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 3: I've gotten used to it Andrea over the time. 1891 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,560 Speaker 5: But that's not public though, Yeah, public is. 1892 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 1: I hope my wife isn't watching. 1893 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 3: I will say this though, obviously the walk off knockout 1894 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 3: when to end your career is like Jordan against the 1895 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,760 Speaker 3: Jazz or Lway winning two Super Bowls and walking away. 1896 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 1: People still will say you did hit them in the 1897 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,599 Speaker 1: balls a couple of times. Did you Where were those 1898 01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 1: punches at the end there, andre Ward? 1899 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,719 Speaker 5: I don't think so. I think maybe one straight beneath 1900 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,880 Speaker 5: the belt line. But again, if you look at the 1901 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 5: beginning of the fight, Tony Weeks said your cup is high, 1902 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,680 Speaker 5: your belt line is high. You know why his belt 1903 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,080 Speaker 5: line was high because he thought you might go to 1904 01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 5: the body. He knew I was going to the body 1905 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 5: because of the first fight. 1906 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, this is good. 1907 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 5: This is a legal blow, meaning right here on his 1908 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:23,960 Speaker 5: belt that you tried to pull up over your navel. 1909 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 2: This is good. 1910 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 5: That's where the majority of those it was three punches. 1911 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 1: I didn't argue it much because you had hurting so 1912 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 1: bad to the body. Legally that that it's referee discretion 1913 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 1: in that moment, and the referee called that a knockouts, 1914 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:36,680 Speaker 1: what are we going to say? 1915 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,840 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? I wasn't going to be mad. 1916 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 5: I actually would wished he would have let it go. 1917 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 5: There's no way. There's no way he was going to 1918 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 5: get to the twelfth round. There's no way. 1919 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:46,960 Speaker 1: No. I agree with it. 1920 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:51,720 Speaker 5: So again, that's the price you pay for winning a lot, 1921 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 5: all right. 1922 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,639 Speaker 1: I want to head into David Scarcia in the second. Obviously, 1923 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 1: I do want to mention I'm glad you never came back, 1924 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,719 Speaker 1: and I think the documentary tells us your true thoughts 1925 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,640 Speaker 1: on it in the in the mental journey it took 1926 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,879 Speaker 1: to get there. But you know, I do podcasts. 1927 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,240 Speaker 3: I got a fill time two years ago when Canelo 1928 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 3: starts making sixty eight his own and he went up 1929 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,080 Speaker 3: to seventy five and he beat Covid eleven. We're like, oh, 1930 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 3: he can carry his power up here. There's nobody on 1931 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 3: paper that can beat Canelo at this weight class. 1932 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 1: And this was two years ago. And I would say 1933 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,439 Speaker 1: except for andre Ward, and if you give him enough time, 1934 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 1: he can fight every style. He's naturally bigger. I actually 1935 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,640 Speaker 1: think he can be at that point the number one 1936 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 1: biggest star impound for pound one in the sport. 1937 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 3: Did that ever actually get close? Besides you like on 1938 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 3: a run in the morning, going you know, maybe I 1939 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 3: could did it? 1940 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 1: Ever get anywhere. 1941 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the closest I ever personally came to 1942 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 5: being open to it was when h Canelo far Covid. 1943 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,280 Speaker 5: I was waiting for him to say my name. 1944 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,360 Speaker 1: Is this is yeah, okay, okay, That's. 1945 01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 5: Probably the closest I've ever come to like, I'm I'm 1946 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,639 Speaker 5: I'm waiting post fight to see if he says my name. Wow, 1947 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:03,880 Speaker 5: And he didn't say my name. 1948 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 1: And he didn't. 1949 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,720 Speaker 5: He didn't say that to me, you know, I mean 1950 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 5: him saying my name. You know, I'm not Everything wasn't 1951 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,040 Speaker 5: based on him, But I'm just saying that was the 1952 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,880 Speaker 5: closest that I came to say it. If he says 1953 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,120 Speaker 5: my name, we may have something. And I just he 1954 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 5: just They asked him a question about who do you 1955 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 5: want next, and he gave the sort of the boiler 1956 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,560 Speaker 5: plate responded on my team and you know, we'll see it. 1957 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,280 Speaker 5: That was the perfect time. You just beat a guy 1958 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 5: that I had beaten. And you know that's why people 1959 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 5: link me and him together. Yeah, it's not just my retirement, 1960 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 5: it's the fact that we have a common opponent. That's 1961 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 5: the only reason why I don't have no beef of Canelo. 1962 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 5: I don't just like Canelo. 1963 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 1: But nobody called you. There wasn't numbers throw around like 1964 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 1: it never got there, right, this calls me a man? Yeah, okay, yeah, 1965 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean how thirty eight year old at that time, 1966 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 1: probably probably about thirty eight thirty nine year old andre 1967 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 1: Ward like thirty seven healthy, healthy enough to have made 1968 01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 1: a run if you had wanted to. 1969 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 5: I mean, you can't convince me otherwise, but we learned 1970 01:20:58,439 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 5: in the dock. 1971 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 1: Even if it were you would have been there. 1972 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,080 Speaker 5: Convinced me otherwise. But it's you know, it wouldn't have 1973 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,120 Speaker 5: been easy. You know it would have been easy. But 1974 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 5: how are you gonna tell me that I couldn't do it. 1975 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,559 Speaker 5: It's not gonna register. 1976 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't have you, uh, and I didn't want to, 1977 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, close your career and you mentioned the film 1978 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 1: Carl Frot was a great competitor and you took him 1979 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:16,960 Speaker 1: out in the Super six final and that was a 1980 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 1: fun fight in Atlantic City. Does there feel like there's 1981 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 1: a single rival in your career? I think mod people 1982 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,080 Speaker 1: would say if there's one, it's covid Lev. But do 1983 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 1: you feel like there's any single opponent that's always been 1984 01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 1: linked with you? 1985 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 5: When they talk about it, Frost for sure, covid let 1986 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:35,559 Speaker 5: for sure, those are probably two biggest Okay, just because 1987 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 5: of the the animis. 1988 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, back and forth indeed. 1989 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 3: Indeed, and in a nice flashback to when you and 1990 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,559 Speaker 3: Carl Frost did that little little face to face type 1991 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,559 Speaker 3: sit down there with Jim Gray. 1992 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,200 Speaker 1: That was good stuff. 1993 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 3: We're gonna get a face to face close up on 1994 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,120 Speaker 3: Showtime Paper View on Saturday when Tank Davis takes on 1995 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia. Uh Man, such a creative, unique fight and 1996 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,280 Speaker 3: it goes against the grain business wise in a lot 1997 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:54,719 Speaker 3: of sense. 1998 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:56,679 Speaker 1: But what about fight wise? 1999 01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,920 Speaker 3: Like Ryan Garcia is going to have to make a 2000 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 3: certain level of in terms of what we've seen on 2001 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 3: the level he's faced for Gionta is one of the 2002 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 3: best in this game. 2003 01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 5: Is it in him? 2004 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Is it in him to do that in this fight? 2005 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's the big question. Both guys 2006 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,760 Speaker 5: gotta gotta answer some questions in this fight. I think 2007 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 5: you you know, going into the fight is sixty forty 2008 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,600 Speaker 5: leaning toward Tank. I just think it's a it's a 2009 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 5: got a different I want to say pedigree, but just 2010 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 5: you see different skill set. He's put more polished and 2011 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 5: you know, obviously Tank has the power of tanking box. 2012 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,360 Speaker 5: And you know, he said it himself, you know in 2013 01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 5: the build up to the fight that my defense has 2014 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,559 Speaker 5: got to be on point. So I think we're gonna 2015 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,599 Speaker 5: see a better tank on defense. Got a great coach, 2016 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,759 Speaker 5: great team, so you gotta lean that way. My biggest 2017 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 5: concern with Ryan, like, he's got the he's got speed, 2018 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 5: but you gotta know when to throw it, how to 2019 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 5: throw it, especially begainst a guy like Javonte. I don't 2020 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 5: know if you can. That's something that's got to be 2021 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,880 Speaker 5: in you. You gotta that's a that's an instant thing. 2022 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 5: But the chin being up in the air, that's like, 2023 01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,599 Speaker 5: if you're looking at this fight, and isn't it that's 2024 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 5: the biggest concern that you have if you're looking at 2025 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 5: no question, Ryan Garcia is. And I don't see in 2026 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 5: training in the build up to the fight. I don't 2027 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 5: see them check working on that. I still see mits 2028 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,840 Speaker 5: with the chin in the ear as as recently as 2029 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:20,600 Speaker 5: his open workout. Ryan's so that's that bad habit is 2030 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:25,280 Speaker 5: in there. He knows it, and that's what he's gonna be. 2031 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 5: He's gonna be waiting for it. And the thing about 2032 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:31,560 Speaker 5: Javonte which makes him exciting and also makes him dangerous, 2033 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 5: but also puts him in danger is that he doesn't 2034 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 5: mind getting hit to get his shot through. He doesn't 2035 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 5: mind getting so go ahead and get your shot off. Boom. 2036 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 5: I'll take it. But I got you and arrange now 2037 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 5: to get mine off. I'm not sure Ryan can fix 2038 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 5: that in that eight ten twelve week period that he 2039 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,000 Speaker 5: that he had to get ready. 2040 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,320 Speaker 3: What do you make You've been in some tough negotiations. 2041 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,600 Speaker 3: If there was an A side leverage played here, we 2042 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,680 Speaker 3: got a ten pound rehydration limit, we got a one 2043 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 3: pound allowance. 2044 01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:58,840 Speaker 1: It's one thirty six here. 2045 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,320 Speaker 5: I'm not giving I'm not if if I'm on, if 2046 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 5: I'm Ryan, I'm not I'm not giving that. Like I 2047 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 5: hear the A side all this stuff, and I know 2048 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 5: Tank's been doing his things, selling out arenas, but neither 2049 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 5: guy has a pay per view track record, and neither 2050 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,640 Speaker 5: guy that I don't know any other fighter that they 2051 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 5: both can fight right now that can do the numbers 2052 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,479 Speaker 5: they're probably gonna do Saturday Night and the and the 2053 01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,040 Speaker 5: gate meaning the overall. 2054 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,280 Speaker 1: Gate, the number, the two unique separate fan bases coming. 2055 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 5: Ryan has a bringing a lot to the table. If 2056 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,759 Speaker 5: I'm on his team and i'm Ryan. 2057 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,360 Speaker 1: Give we can give on. 2058 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:33,439 Speaker 5: Some things that I normally wouldn't give on to get 2059 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,600 Speaker 5: this fight over the hump. But when you start to 2060 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,640 Speaker 5: play with things that can affect my strength or my 2061 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 5: ability to take a punch, I'm not giving it to you. 2062 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 5: And I just think they missed an opportunity. And Ryan 2063 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 5: is so eager. You gotta realize he built himself on 2064 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,519 Speaker 5: social media. He had a name on social media before 2065 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,679 Speaker 5: he had a name in boxing, So he's he cares 2066 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 5: about what the people think and what the people say 2067 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 5: that will cause you to make decisions sometimes that aren't wise. 2068 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 5: Now we'll see if it affects him, and I think 2069 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,640 Speaker 5: it may be the difference in this fight. Because you 2070 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,840 Speaker 5: take a guy two or three pounds south, then he's 2071 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 5: been in several years. You can't take a punch the same. 2072 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,320 Speaker 5: The average person will say, oh, it's just three pounds. 2073 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,679 Speaker 5: That three pounds could be the difference between you getting 2074 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,280 Speaker 5: hit with a good shot and getting buzzed and recovering 2075 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 5: or going down and not getting up. 2076 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,840 Speaker 1: By the way, it makes me respect be how coming 2077 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,759 Speaker 1: another fifty eight against Oscar By the way. 2078 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 5: That was crazy but he couldn't pass that opportunity. Yep, 2079 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:27,479 Speaker 5: I'm not giving that clause. That's a situation where Ryan, 2080 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 5: if he's savvy and he's thinking, oh, Oscar, this is 2081 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 5: what they want to do. I'm gonna go to my 2082 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,479 Speaker 5: X amount of million followers and say, look, I want 2083 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 5: the fight to be done. But he's asking for this clause. 2084 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,479 Speaker 5: I can't give it to him, y'all. Now, I gave 2085 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 5: on everything else, but I can't give him that. I 2086 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 5: think that was a missed opportunity. You can't give that up. 2087 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:48,680 Speaker 3: Like on one side, that's daring to be great. He 2088 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,280 Speaker 3: did what he had to do to get to get 2089 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,400 Speaker 3: the fight right. I respect it, but I get exactly 2090 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:52,880 Speaker 3: what you're saying. 2091 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,600 Speaker 5: I respected from we were talking business though from a 2092 01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:01,439 Speaker 5: business standpoints now wise, I get the eagerness. I respect it. 2093 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,800 Speaker 5: And you know Javonte said that that Ryan's not like that. Well, 2094 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 5: he's like that because he took a clause that Javonte 2095 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 5: might not have took, right, So he's really liked that, 2096 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:12,760 Speaker 5: and I respect it. 2097 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:14,880 Speaker 1: I respect the insight. Right there, you did great work. 2098 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:16,599 Speaker 3: Uh we had a minute left here, but a great 2099 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,400 Speaker 3: work out of ESPN and quickly on that your transition. 2100 01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 3: I mean, you've been on Showtime, HBO, You've you've made 2101 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,400 Speaker 3: this a career. In bloom As, you were still fighting 2102 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,200 Speaker 3: like like Roy did before. You like a lot of greats, 2103 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,640 Speaker 3: but you quickly people were like he might be the 2104 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 3: best in the game. And I mean respect to paulin 2105 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,200 Speaker 3: Mal and Giroland Markets who was here. There's so many 2106 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 3: great ones. Tim Bradley, you work. 2107 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 1: With, is one of the best. What does that make 2108 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:35,960 Speaker 1: you feel though. 2109 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 5: As a competitor, man, it's it's we We always saw 2110 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,680 Speaker 5: it coming, you know something. Versus has a booklet that 2111 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 5: he still has to this day where he talked about 2112 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 5: me being a broadcaster one day and when I saw 2113 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 5: Roy Jones broadcast, I want to do it, and I 2114 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,920 Speaker 5: was able to do it during my career's full time. 2115 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 5: Now it's a blessing. I'm close to the sport, but 2116 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:53,760 Speaker 5: now I got the best seat in the house and 2117 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 5: I could talk about something I love. I'm not taking 2118 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,880 Speaker 5: no more punches though that it's not that it's. 2119 01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:58,920 Speaker 2: Not a bad gag, you know what I mean. 2120 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:00,920 Speaker 1: I like to get two once in a while. I 2121 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 1: pay as well too, andre Ward. 2122 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 3: It's been fantastic here in Morning Combat June second on 2123 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,519 Speaker 3: Showtime and Paramount streaming channels. It's your documentary that you 2124 01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 3: played a big role in Executive producer s og The 2125 01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,000 Speaker 3: Book of Ward. Love that title, by the way, love 2126 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 3: what you stand for in the mark you left on 2127 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,559 Speaker 3: the on the business. It doesn't matter, andre you did 2128 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,560 Speaker 3: it your way and I'm I'm proud of you in 2129 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 3: that regard, so I appreciate. 2130 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:23,559 Speaker 1: Your time there. 2131 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,519 Speaker 3: It goes down obviously Saturday night on Showtime pay per View. 2132 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,479 Speaker 3: Do not miss Davis versus Garcia. One quick reminder of 2133 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 3: the way in today streaming live on Showtime Sports YouTube channels, 2134 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 3: Aerial Hawani kidab do myself. 2135 01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 1: Don't miss it. 2136 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 3: Same cruise Saturday night, six pm for the Showtime pay 2137 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,559 Speaker 3: per view countdown. That was andre Ward, thank you for joining. 2138 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,439 Speaker 3: For Raoul Marquez, the Champ, Dan Kenobio, I'm Brian Campbell. 2139 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:44,559 Speaker 3: This has been Morning Combat. 2140 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,320 Speaker 1: Enjoy the fight. Saturday night