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Speaker 1: at the safety position, at the running back position.

434
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Speaker 2: See if he's in shape.

435
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Speaker 1: Now there is a level of guy you know a

436
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, like Odell Beckham on the street.

437
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Speaker 2: He's probably not working out for you.

438
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Speaker 1: But guys like Chosen Roddie Anderson, you put him through

439
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: a workout and you go, yeah, he still looks pretty good.

440
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: If we needed, we'd be interested in signing him.

441
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Speaker 1: And maybe you have a need that day, and you say,

442
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: but every day you go to practice. You know, now

443
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: it's all probably on your phone, but we used to

444
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: print out the hard sheet for Howie, and you're just

445
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: prepared that if you lose a guy, you immediately call

446
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: two or three of those guys and try to set

447
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: up a workout. And if the guy is at a

448
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: level in which he's not going to work out, you

449
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: might just sign him. But you have to be prepared

450
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: because one thing I learned when I was in the NFL,

451
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: and you see it every single year as just a

452
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: fan or someone that watches a lot of football, a

453
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Speaker 1: position of strength.

454
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: Can go to a position of weakness.

455
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: Like that within a couple snaps, one broken leg, one

456
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Speaker 1: ACL and then the backup gets dinged up. All of

457
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: a sudden, You're like, God, we loved our offensive line.

458
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Speaker 1: Now we were down two starters. So things can snowball fast.

459
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: You have to be able to pivot now. Clearly, within

460
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, things dramatically change the big cut down,

461
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Speaker 1: and there are a lot of names available. A lot

462
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Speaker 1: of guys go to practice squad. To take a guy

463
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Speaker 1: from a practice squad and put him on your active

464
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: you have to put him on your active roster if

465
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Speaker 1: he's not on your team. So once the season starts,

466
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Speaker 1: in the practice squads are created. If I want to

467
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Speaker 1: steal the number one practice squad guy at my board

468
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: on my board because I need a guard and I

469
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: am the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers have

470
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Speaker 1: my favorite guard and he's on the practice squad. For

471
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Speaker 1: me to sign that guy, I have to put him

472
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Speaker 1: on my active roster. Now he can do two things.

473
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Speaker 1: Green Bay can basically go, we don't have a spot

474
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Speaker 1: right now in the active roster, but we drafted you

475
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: in the sixth round. You know we like you. We

476
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: will bump your salary up. You can bait and make

477
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Speaker 1: their salary a regular season salary, and the first time

478
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: we have an injury, you'll come right up. And he

479
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Speaker 1: can choose to say they also could just if they

480
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: have an opening, or you know, put a guy on

481
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: IR and elevate him as well. But a lot of

482
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: guys change from practice squads to regular rosters because you

483
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Speaker 1: get a huge pay race. There's a big difference between

484
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Speaker 1: make and whatever they make. I think I look last

485
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: year as like one hundred and fifty grand or something,

486
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: and the league minimum for a rookie is I think

487
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: like eight fifty or not eight hundred and twenty grand,

488
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: So you're looking at four xing your money, and obviously

489
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: you got to divide that by seventeen, but still it's

490
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: a big jump. And that's kind of what is about

491
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: to happen when the big cutdowns happen, and you also

492
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: see players, random guys get cut throughout the weeks now,

493
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Speaker 1: and typically that is you brought in some undrafted free

494
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Speaker 1: agents and you can tell pretty quickly that he's not

495
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: good enough, and so you just cut him. And you're

496
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: also doing him a favor because you allow him maybe

497
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Speaker 1: to get on with another team. There's a lot of

498
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: time left, Maybe he gets to play in some preseason games,

499
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: because once the season starts, if you're a practice squad guy,

500
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Speaker 1: your resume has stopped. Because the only way I can

501
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: evaluate you now, I can do it off college, right,

502
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: whatever my grade was for you in college, Like why

503
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones traded for It wasn't the regular season action

504
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: that he played because he wasn't very good. It was

505
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Speaker 1: based on that they had a really high grade on him,

506
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: and they go, hey, we had a top ten grade

507
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Speaker 1: on this guy. We get him for a fourth round

508
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: or that seems like a good deal. It was very

509
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: transactional that way. But when you evaluate the practice squad guys,

510
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: all you have to go off is the preseason film

511
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: and now technology. If it's John Middlecoff, the starting linebacker

512
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans, Number fifty six.

513
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Speaker 2: I type in all his.

514
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Speaker 1: Plays and I watch him and if it gets to

515
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: the offseason and he gets cut and he hasn't played

516
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: a regular season game, that's the only thing.

517
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: I have to go off of.

518
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: So that's what all these teams are going to be doing,

519
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: is basically evaluating every player once the preseason starts, that

520
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: is a potential cut. So basically every guy that's drafted

521
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: from the fourth through the seventh round, any undrafted free

522
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: agent that got a signing bonus, and then any kind

523
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: of veteran player who is on the bubble to.

524
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Speaker 2: Make the team.

525
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: So when the cuts happened, if you go, god, we

526
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: really like this guy in the preseason and he got

527
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Speaker 1: cut and we need that position, we can acquire him.

528
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: So that it's a very very busy time watching preseason

529
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: film for the scouting community these.

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Speaker 2: Next three weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's actually gotten a lot easier with less preseason games

532
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: and that last week of preseason. You get a couple

533
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Speaker 1: of days in the last week of August, which when

534
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Speaker 1: I was there, you didn't have as much time because

535
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Speaker 1: you had four preseason games. And then after that fourth

536
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Speaker 1: preseason game that I think everyone played on Thursday, the

537
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: cuts happened within the next couple of days, and it's kind.

538
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Speaker 2: Of a free for all. So you're just you're you are.

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00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: Watching a ton of guys. Now technology has made it

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00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: easier with the ability to kind of, you know, just

541
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Speaker 1: pick targets or pick you know, times a corner was

542
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: thrown at, or pick tackles or whatever. But still, I mean,

543
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: you got to do a lot of work. And this

544
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: when you find some diamonds, maybe guy gets cut. You

545
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: getting the you know that was drafted in the fifth

546
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Speaker 1: round and they wanted to put in the practice squad,

547
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Speaker 1: and you go, I think this guy could be a

548
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: backup force right now. And it happens all the time.

549
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: And then we look back on six years, you're like, God,

550
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: that so and so cut them.

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Speaker 2: It happens.

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Speaker 1: I remember at the Super Bowl, I was hanging out

553
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Speaker 1: with Buddy from the Chiefs and we were talking about

554
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: Tarvarius Ward. He's like, yeah, the way we got him

555
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: was his rookie season. We traded the Cowboys for him.

556
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Speaker 1: And then obviously he went on to be a several

557
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Speaker 1: year starter for the Chiefs and he got paid a

558
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Speaker 1: lot of money by the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: And again, it's not even it could happened to any team.

560
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: A lot of teams cut guys that go on to

561
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Speaker 1: have careers other places.

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Speaker 2: It's not like Jerry Jones' fault, but it just happens.

563
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Speaker 2: You never know.

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Speaker 1: A couple other NFL news and notes, Andy Reid, the

565
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are pretty enjoyable preseason watch for as long as

566
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Speaker 1: the starters are playing, because you know they're gonna play,

567
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Speaker 1: he claims.

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Speaker 2: And this can always change.

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Speaker 1: Right if Patrick Mahomes they get they get the ball first,

570
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Speaker 1: he leads him on a touchdown drive.

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Speaker 2: Andy could pull him, but.

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Speaker 1: He did say they'll play a quarter. And I saw

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Speaker 1: a floor had a quote because I think Jordan love

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Speaker 1: Jordan love playing the preseason.

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Speaker 2: I think he might.

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Speaker 1: He said there's value, and I do agree with him.

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00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: There is value of preparing to play a game mentally,

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00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: of just getting in the mindset the two days before

579
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Speaker 1: a day before, the way you prepare in terms of

580
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: your food, your sleep, and just kind of having the

581
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: juices flowing, even if you only play a series that

582
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: lead up, so you don't just start the regular season

583
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: just zero to sixty. So Andy's playing his guys at quarter.

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00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is going to.

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00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: Play so this is listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long and you never know. But

587
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: like if Joe Burrow plays three series, even if I

588
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: don't watch the game live, like I'll go YouTube it

589
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: or go to my NFL app and watch those three series.

590
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: It's fun Kyler Murray will not play. Don't totally blame

591
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: him last year coming off an injury justin fields because

592
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: and the calf is kind.

593
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: Of being weird, is going to start the game for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: And one story, it's really crazy that the Patriots during

596
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: the dynasty, and this happens during any dynasty. The Warriors

597
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: had the same thing with Curry, Klay and once Durant came.

598
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: When you are a great team, you can get guys

599
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: to take a little less to try to win. When

600
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: you suck, you have to overpay. And even then guys

601
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: aren't that interested. The Patriots chefter tweeted out that they

602
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: pulled out. I got news for you, Brandon, I you

603
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: didn't want to play there and wasn't going to accept

604
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: their contract. And Matt Mayoko, who is all over this story,

605
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: no team and again he might be traded by the

606
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Speaker 1: time you listen to this, offered him more than the

607
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: Patriots did the Niners obviously offering the least. The Steelers' number, actually,

608
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I've heard was closer to the Niners. The Browns more

609
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: than the Steelers, and the Patriots offered the most.

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00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: And you didn't want to go there.

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Speaker 1: Don't totally blame them, right, The team's awful. Why would

612
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: you want to go from a great team to a

613
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: bad team. And it's not like it's some no tax state.

614
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: It's expensive to live there.

615
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: But he said no.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously once the Patriots find that out, they're like, yeah,

617
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: we're out, and listen, it's not the Patriots are going

618
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: through a rebuild. To me, they got very very lucky

619
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: that Brandon Ayuk had no interest. I thought the same

620
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: thing about Washington.

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Speaker 2: You are in no business to make deals like this.

622
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Speaker 1: You do not need to trade for players and then

623
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Speaker 1: pay them in year one of a rookie quarterback who

624
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: is not even gonna start. Just take a deep breath,

625
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: reset your team, and figure out what you have. You

626
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: need those assets. And it wasn't gonna cost the Patriots

627
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: a first round pick. But still, even if you had

628
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: to give like Matthew Judon in a second right, whatever

629
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: the trade would be I don't know.

630
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm just a hypothetical.

631
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Why would you give anything You're not in the position

632
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: if you can ever sign this guy and he's available

633
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: in the free agent market, then dramatically overpay. But when

634
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: you're awful and your roster isn't good and you're staring

635
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: down the barrel of being a team drafting in the

636
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: top five again, to do moves like this make no sense. Hell,

637
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: looking back, it didn't make sense for the for the

638
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Raiders to trade for DeVante and they had Derek carr

639
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: It some pieces that the Patriots have no business even

640
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: sniffing around this one. And listen, you could argue sniffing

641
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: around that's part of these guys' jobs, Okay, but that

642
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: would have been that they got lucky to me that

643
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: IUK had no interest in going there, because is there

644
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: a team in the league that's more players away than

645
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: the Patriots? So to give up any draft capital Now

646
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: you could say, hey, they're getting rid of Kendrick Bourne. Now,

647
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: if the deal would have been Kendrick Bourne, Matthew Judon

648
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: and like a fourth man, they're like, we're not even

649
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: giving up that much. We're giving up a player that's

650
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: not gonna be on the team next year. Judon Kendrick Bourne. Whatever,

651
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: We're just replacing him with Ayuk and a mid round pick.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if the Niners are accepting anything

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Speaker 1: less even with players than you got to include a

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Speaker 1: second day pick. And I think the Patriots got lucky

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Speaker 1: when it comes to this transaction. Okay, mail back time

656
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Speaker 1: at John middlecoff Instagram. You guys fire in the DMS.

657
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Speaker 1: You know the drill wide open baby. To answer your questions,

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Speaker 1: start with lon MVP mailback question. Should we just call

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Speaker 1: the MVP Award the quarterback Award at this point?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback is the most important position, but they have to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball running back, tight end, wide receiver. An

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Speaker 1: average game manager quarterback will look like God if he

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Speaker 1: has an amazing wide receiver. Should we just stop wasting

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Speaker 1: our time having non quarterback candidates when we know the

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Speaker 1: quarterback will always win the award? I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna change like I don't think they'll ever change the

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Speaker 1: name of the award. But if you do like the

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Speaker 1: gamble and dabble in a little future MVP bet, I

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Speaker 1: think you'd have to be pretty nuts to better on

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Speaker 1: anyone but I would say five players this year, right.

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Speaker 1: Obviously mahomes Lamar Lamar would be pretty difficult given that

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Speaker 1: he just won and he's already won two. Alan Burrow

674
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Speaker 1: I think I haven't even looked at the odds yet.

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Speaker 1: You know, if Jalen Hurts bounces back, Purty Goff could put.

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Speaker 2: Up huge stats.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it just feels like we know the group

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Speaker 1: six to seven guys c J. Stroud has a big year.

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00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: It's like, what would like Miles Garrett, Nick Bosa or

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Speaker 1: TJ Watt have to do, honestly to win the MVP?

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven sacks? What would a wide receiver have to do?

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Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty catches, twenty three hundred yards, thirty touchdowns?

683
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Speaker 1: I mean, what, what's even? It's not I hear you, bro,

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Speaker 1: I it just kind of is what it is now.

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Speaker 1: We could argue about it all we want, but it's

686
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Speaker 1: definitely not going to change, and its kind of the

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Speaker 1: world we live in. I' let's see you all the time.

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Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag, where would you rank Calvin Johnson

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Speaker 1: Megatron on an all time wide receiver list? The reason

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Speaker 1: for my question is because I see all the time

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Speaker 1: on social media people talking about all time wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: more specifically from the twenty tens. More often than not,

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Speaker 1: I see people talk about Julio Jones, ab Larry and

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Speaker 1: even Des Bryant, but hardly ever Megatron. He's not even mentioned.

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Speaker 1: So where would you rank him among all time receivers?

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Speaker 1: As a Lions fan who grew up watching that era,

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Speaker 1: He's my Barry Sanders, and I feel like he doesn't

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Speaker 1: get enough credit. That's a great question. It's hard because

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Speaker 1: I don't have like a list of every wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the same guy's kind of come to your mind, right,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, Randy Moss one two. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people go Randy Moss is the most talented wide receiver. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Jerry's records speak for themselves. Those guys are just in

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Speaker 1: a category kind of their own. I think the easier

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Speaker 1: way for me to do it because I I can't

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Speaker 1: speak on the seventies or eighties really and in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: like the best wide receivers, Chris Carter was incredible, Michael

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Speaker 1: Irvin was dominant. But in my football watching time like

709
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Speaker 1: late high school through now, so like late nineties to now,

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Speaker 1: you know Terrell Owens. I think the problem with him

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Speaker 1: is he was you know, thing that Megatron or Larry

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Speaker 1: fitz had is they operated like they were Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: or Tom Brady, like the character, the leadership, just how

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Speaker 1: much everyone loved him. Teo was a pretty big pain.

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Speaker 2: Now. He was a dominant player.

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Speaker 1: So if we just go the last twenty five years,

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Speaker 1: you know, Antonio Brown six year stretch, a little like

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Speaker 1: Terrell Owens, he'd leaves such a negative taste in your

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Speaker 1: mouth because of how weird it got at the end.

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Speaker 1: But he was as good as a guy. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing ranking here. I'm just using other names to me.

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Speaker 1: Megatron obviously as an all time great player. Larry Fitzgerald's

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Speaker 1: unique right because he clearly, like Megatron, was a dominant player.

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Speaker 1: But at times when it's quarterback position was like what

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Speaker 1: is going on here? And that happened to Larry more

726
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Speaker 1: than Megatron, because at least he got Stafford. But when

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Speaker 1: Larry was in the playoffs, the dude turned into like

728
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Speaker 1: a jack to Jerry Rice. I mean, he was an

729
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Speaker 1: unstoppable force. So I would have Larry right there with Megatron.

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Speaker 1: Uh Antonio Brown. I think Tyreek Hill is one of

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Speaker 1: the best players I've ever seen any position in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's why the argument with everyone going Tyreek Hill being

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Speaker 1: number one. Did you notice no one was really saying that.

734
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Speaker 1: It's like, who has Lamar Jackson above Patrick Mahomes when

735
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Speaker 1: we just saw the two guys play. One guy put

736
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Speaker 1: on a masterclass? Yeah, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: But Tyreek Hill?

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Speaker 1: I mean there were stretches. There were stretches in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. It's like, who are the two best players

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Speaker 1: in the league. You're like Tyreek and Miles Garrett. I

741
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Speaker 1: mean there were stretches in that season where like, these

742
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Speaker 1: are the two best players in the league. I mean

743
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Speaker 1: you can watch a month You're like, is Trent Williams

744
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Speaker 1: the best player in the league. So I'd put Megatron

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Speaker 1: on a very short list of and I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm forgetting guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think Manning who he played. You know,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put Reggie Wayne on that category. Marvin Harrison

749
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Speaker 1: played in the nineties two. I think he was drafted

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Speaker 1: in ninety six. Guys, Yeah, I think those are some

751
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Speaker 1: names that jump out. I'm sure I'm leaving some out,

752
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Speaker 1: but it just gets very very.

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00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 2: Cluttered quick.

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Speaker 1: You know Davante has an incredible five six year stretch.

755
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: Then the only reason to slow down is because it's

756
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Speaker 1: quarterback play. But that's the thing with the wide receiver,

757
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: it's not in your control. Same with a running back

758
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Speaker 1: a little bit. The all time greats like Barry Sanders,

759
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: Walter Payton like they're flourishing no matter who they're playing with.

760
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: But most guys like you put them behind crappy offensive lines,

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00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be great. You are dependent even a quarterback.

762
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: You are dependent on your play color, unless your name's

763
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Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 2: Mail back.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Cape Town, South Africa. I'd love to go.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking a few days ago. You know who

767
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: is the best job in the world. Trey Lance. If

768
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: he's utter trash, he gets to retire. He made almost

769
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Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars. Just think of the life you

770
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Speaker 1: could set for yourself with that level of cash. An

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00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: absolute best case scenario, he could be a career backup

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Speaker 1: making two million dollars a year for another ten years. Also,

773
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Speaker 1: if he retires, you said he's a high character guy.

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Speaker 1: He works and has connections as in the industry where

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Speaker 1: he could one day work himself up to a salary

776
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Speaker 1: of a couple hundred thousand dollars. These are the type

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Speaker 1: of options and privileges I think players disregard when they

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Speaker 1: complain about the unfair criticisms and the pressures of what

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Speaker 1: they do. Yeah, I mean, I think you said it

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Speaker 1: pretty well.

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Speaker 2: It's hard.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some clips where he's looked terrible, and then

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Speaker 1: I've seen clips where he looks good. Preseason game is

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Speaker 1: gonna be pretty big for him. Pretty clear he's still

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Speaker 1: the number three quarterback. He can't beat out Cooper Rush,

786
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: who's actually a pretty good backup quarterback. But is Trey

787
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Speaker 1: lance of backup quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But like you said, he he made it the moment

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Speaker 2: the Niners.

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Speaker 1: Pulled the trigger and drafted a number three overall. Now,

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Speaker 1: if the Niners hadn't drafted him, he was going in

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Speaker 1: the top ten. Someone would have drafted him, and someone

793
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: would have been pretty disappointed in the draft pick.

794
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: But that's that's the way the draft works.

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Speaker 1: If you get drafted in the top ten and there

796
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Speaker 1: are players every single year that never become very good

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Speaker 1: in the top ten, you make a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag, I'm in a family football pool

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Speaker 1: with my mom, dad, and brother. It's super super simple.

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Speaker 1: We all take turns snake drafting eight football teams each

801
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Speaker 1: for the regular season. Whoever has the most cumulative wins

802
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Speaker 1: for the season wins.

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00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: Easy as that.

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Speaker 1: This year, I'm drafting first overall, meaning I get picks one, eight, nine, sixteen, seventeen,

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Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty five, thirty two. I mind Detroit forty nine,

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Speaker 1: Ers or Chiefs with my first pick. But after that,

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Speaker 1: what team should I target with each pick? Once again

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Speaker 1: for overall regular season wins? Yeah, I think if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for I think Detroit feels like a team that's

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Speaker 1: gonna win twelve plus. The Niners got a lot going on,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't totally be scared. I think the Chiefs would scare

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Speaker 1: you a little bit, just because at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: what do they have to prove in October and November.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll try early, try late, and they could

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Speaker 1: go to cruise control a little in the middle.

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Speaker 2: They're the team you bet on it in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I would say that the Rams would be a team

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Speaker 1: that could be pretty interesting. The Rams, the Packers. If

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Speaker 1: you like the Eagles to win the division, that could

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Speaker 1: be eleven twelve wins. I would say mid tier teams

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Speaker 1: that might people might be off. The scent of would be,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Bears are a team. I think the

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Speaker 1: Saints are a team. People act like the Saints blow

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Speaker 1: they went nine to eight last year and their offense

825
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: was a joke. Well, I was doing a little research

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Speaker 1: Texan with some people on the staff said the offense

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Speaker 1: with Kubiak is a lot. Derek's a lot more comfortable

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Speaker 1: not acting like they're gonna win the super Bowl. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy the Saints win ten games

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Speaker 1: because everyone and their mother's picking the Atlanta Falcons. I'm

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Speaker 1: just supposed to bet that Kirk Cousins and Raheem Morris

832
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Speaker 1: are just a lock. I'm not acting like Derek Carr

833
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Speaker 1: and Dennis Island a great either, But what the hell's

834
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Speaker 1: the difference? What is the difference. Cousins has been a

835
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Speaker 1: better player than Derek, but he's coming off in Achilles.

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Speaker 1: Raheem Morris hasn't been a head coach in fifteen.

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Speaker 2: We just don't know.

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Speaker 1: So I just I think the Saints are a team.

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Speaker 1: I would say I don't know if the Bengals were

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Speaker 1: like off the scent, I would be a little less

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Speaker 1: bullish on like could the Ravens win ten games this

842
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Speaker 1: year instead of like thirteen.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Ravens are the number one seed.

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Speaker 1: I mean they lost a lot, they got They're depending

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Speaker 1: on a lot of new young players. Is is there

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Speaker 1: a chance that Bengals win that division?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: The one thing the Ravens draft really well, so even

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Speaker 1: when you haven't heard of the guy and then he comes,

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Speaker 1: he becomes a five year starter.

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Speaker 2: Question for the me.

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Speaker 1: I went to OU in twenty seventeen to twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: had my fair share of fun during my time. I

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00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: saw some of the most dominant individual college talents in

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Speaker 1: Baker Kyler and Jalen Hurt's Ceedee Lamb and Caleb Williams

856
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: was levels above all of them. He's got that situation

857
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Speaker 1: magic like Mahomes combined with all the talent in the world.

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Speaker 1: I would be shocked considering his talent combined with his weapons.

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Speaker 1: If they aren't competing to win the division, even with

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Speaker 1: the Lions and the Packers, who are elite teams in

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Speaker 1: their own right, my question is if I told you

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Speaker 1: the Bears made the NFC Championship, game in that division,

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Speaker 1: how would we be talking about Kayleb Williams and his

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Speaker 1: rise disort um.

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Speaker 2: I think he could win the MVP.

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Speaker 1: But when you watch hard Knocks, and this is why

867
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: I always pumped the brakes and Saban brought this up. Now,

868
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: Caleb has an element that Peyton didn't have because he

869
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: can scramble.

870
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: Peyton couldn't move.

871
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: Actually, Peyton was a better athlete like ninety eight than

872
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: he obviously is became when he was older.

873
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: It's really really difficult for young players.

874
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: The play calls are really intense, a lot of moving parts.

875
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: Defenses are way more complex in the NFL. You are

876
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: gonna have ups and downs, and you are gonna go

877
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: through periods where your confidence just I would say sways.

878
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: You might not lose it, but you just it's tough

879
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: no matter what you do. The moment you get a

880
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: new job, that is hard. It can be intense early on,

881
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: and then you might look back a year or two

882
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: later you're like, God, this is way easier now, of

883
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: course it is. Most humans learn by doing. You get

884
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: better with experience. I think expecting the world of this

885
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: team as a rookie. It's why I think the hype

886
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: on Jayden Daniels, like the NFL is so hard. All

887
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: the shitty teams are good. It's like, Okay, they're playing

888
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: the second worst team in his division, which in the

889
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: equivalent of that in college is like when LSU plays

890
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: like Mississippi State, Well, he's playing the Giants and they

891
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: got Brian Burns, Dexter, Lawrence dibbideo like, they got some

892
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: dudes who can move like you can move and hit

893
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: you and hurt you.

894
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: So I just think that it's Saban was right.

895
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: It's it's unfair the expectations that these guys.

896
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: Have to deal with.

897
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: It's it really is. He could have a fantastic rookie

898
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: season and they win eight games. Now you would say,

899
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: how does that happen? Because they were what seven wins

900
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: last year and Justin Fields was a quarterback, So maybe.

901
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: That's not plausible.

902
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: Maybe if he is really good, they win ten, assuming

903
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: their defense is really good, which I mean it could be.

904
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: They got a lot of talent on defense for sure.

905
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: Not a question but more of a statement. I don't

906
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: think he should be paid justin Jefferson money. The wide

907
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: receiver for Bubble is going to burst eventually, and don't

908
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: want to lock up your salary cap right before you

909
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: have to sign perty. They have control of him for

910
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: the next three years without a long term deal, so

911
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: I think they should make you play under the option

912
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: and franchise tag him next year.

913
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: He won't retire.

914
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: I think one thing that Jake Rosenberg, when we had

915
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: him on, who's been dealing with these contracts for years, he.

916
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: Hit on a pretty good point.

917
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: He said, player empowerment has never been stronger. And it's

918
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: not the NBA where you just get your way. Kevin Durant,

919
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: I only want to play for the Suns, and he

920
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: ends up on the Suns. That's not quite how it works.

921
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: But forever teams would just be like you're playing on

922
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: the fifty year option, you're playing on the franchise tag.

923
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: I don't think coaches and gms want to deal with

924
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: that anymore. In terms of a pouty player, and if

925
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: the reason you are making him do that, it's because

926
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: you're questioning paying him well. If he pouts and then

927
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: plays bad, his value goes down, but his price tag

928
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: for you doesn't go down because you still have to

929
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: franchise him, and that numbers high. So I think a

930
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: lot of teams are like, yeah, we're not dealing with this,

931
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: so we essentially trade you now for the player. Empowerment

932
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: comes in on this and I saw a chefter on.

933
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: It was on my social media, it was on Twitter,

934
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: but he said it on TV. He said, essentially, a

935
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: Yuke has a no trade clause because for you to

936
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: execute a trade, like they had a deal in place

937
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, and Iyuke said no, because I'm not

938
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: signing the contract. So the Patriots aren't gonna do whatever

939
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: that deal was. Let's just let's use hypothetical. Kendrick Bourne

940
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: coming off in ACL Matthew Judon who wants a new

941
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: contract and a second round pick, and I was like, yeah,

942
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: we'll do that deal. And then here's we'll give I

943
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: you thirty million dollars a year and I us like, yeah,

944
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm not signing it. The Browns. The Niners have a

945
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: deal in place with the Browns Amari Cooper in a

946
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: third round pick. Let's just again, I don't know what

947
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: the deal is. I'm just using hypotheticals. If I you

948
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: signed their contract, which they have negotiated with them. He's

949
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: a Brown, he clearly is hesitant to do that. So

950
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: like he controls some of this. The problem is he's

951
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: just kind of sitting there in no man's land. It's like,

952
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: I only want to go to the Steelers. And that's

953
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, the Niners aren't comfortable with the

954
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: package they're getting back from the Steelers, so nothing's happening.

955
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: That's where I think a lot of this kind of

956
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: animosity weirdness, because he controls some of it. They don't

957
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: want to just I think they'd be more likely. It's like, Okay,

958
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: if you're gonna stay, you're making fourteen million dollars this year,

959
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: watch you, we'll give you a race. We'll make that

960
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: fourteen twenty three because they got like thirty plus million

961
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space and we'll just play out this

962
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: season or.

963
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: Twenty five million or whatever.

964
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't see how they give him twenty five million

965
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: when Deebo's making twenty That's where it gets kind of weird.

966
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: Whole situation. It's just pretty bizarre.

967
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm glad you haven't answered my question yet. Instead, may

968
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: I rephrase, I guess I missed this one. I miss

969
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: some of you guys questions. There's a ton of dms

970
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: we get. It's hard to just keep track of them all,

971
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: so I'm trying I don't pass anyone on purpose. With

972
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: the salary cap making things interesting for every team from

973
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: year to year, the teams have the choice to spend

974
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: on the cap how they see fit. Doesn't that just

975
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: render the draft kind of useless? Caleb Williams would not

976
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: go to a team that is strong at quarterback with

977
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: a monstrous contract, so the team that would have been

978
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 1: drafting him anyway is courting him during a theoretical free

979
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: agent signing period along with the veterans of the league,

980
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: and now Kleb. Williams would have chosen Cliff in Washington

981
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: rather than being forced to Chicago. We have the same

982
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: kind of try to pick where we want to work

983
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: as long as the feeling is a mutual, don't we?

984
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: Why take that away from the players? Do you agree

985
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: that the draft has become obsolete with the salary cap? No?

986
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't because the draft, this whole thing is a

987
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: reality television show. That's how all these guys make their millions.

988
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: Of dollars with us watching.

989
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: Well, the season is only six months long, so how

990
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: do you keep everyone engaged? We have the combine, you

991
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: have free agency and then the draft. Which is one

992
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: of the biggest television shows in America, and that's led

993
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: by the NFL. So to me, it serves not only

994
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: a purpose from a marketing tool, it also like Caleb Williams,

995
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: just as he said on Hard Knock's, got twenty five

996
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: point five million dollars and in this specific situation, okay,

997
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 1: he could have gone to Washington because his buddy' cliffs there.

998
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: Use the example of, like, we have the opportunity to choose.

999
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: Let's just use coming out of college. What's the most

1000
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: money you've ever heard of of a guy making out

1001
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: of college in engineering, in sales and whatever. Maybe the

1002
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: number is way higher now than when I was coming.

1003
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't I don't think I knew anyone

1004
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: that made a hundred grand now that was two thousand

1005
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: and eight. But I think it's a little different, Like,

1006
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the rules are different when you get twenty

1007
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: five point five million dollars signing bonus. Sorry, you don't

1008
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: get to choose where you play, and I'm sorry, Chicago

1009
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: want the worst place to play. And he looks pretty

1010
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: happy there, and it's a pretty incredible situation. So yeah,

1011
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those anti draft people. I fucking

1012
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: love the draft. I see its value from the league standpoint,

1013
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: I see its value from a fan standpoint. It creates

1014
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: hope for the bad teams. So yeah, I mean, I.

1015
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. I don't.

1016
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't look at it that way at all because

1017
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: I feel I don't feel bad.

1018
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't.

1019
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent certain you will see this.

1020
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: But a team and that's not brought up that could

1021
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: fill the things the Niners want could be the Raiders

1022
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: Adams for a Yuke. They have picks and players. Adams

1023
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: would gladly work on a long term deal with the Niners.

1024
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: Davante Adams is.

1025
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: A Raider fan, born and raised the reason when the

1026
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: Packers and him were not going to get a deal done,

1027
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: he said, I want to go to the Raiders, and

1028
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 1: the Raiders wanted him, and it worked out. I don't

1029
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: think Davante now, maybe the first three weeks of practice

1030
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: he's like, we're not going to win with these two quarterbacks,

1031
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: so maybe he would change his tune. If the Raiders

1032
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: offer Davante Adams for Brandon Ayuk, straight up, the Niners

1033
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: would do that trade. They would fucking Kyle Shanahan would drive.

1034
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuke to Vegas.

1035
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is in a different level than Brandon Nyuk.

1036
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams is one of the best players the last

1037
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: like twenty plus years. He is a great wide receiver.

1038
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: So if that was available, which it is not, Like,

1039
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: what's the difference. Why would the Raiders get rid of

1040
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: DeVante for a Yuk? So I got a younger player

1041
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: who's not as good, who's gonna actually cost more per year? Like,

1042
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: what's I already got a wide receiver. Wide receiver is

1043
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: not my problem?

1044
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: Quarterback?

1045
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: Is Niners would do that deal in a New York minute.

1046
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean think they're cool with getting Amark.

1047
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 2: Cooper Devanta Adams.

1048
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: If the forty Niners at DeVante Adams with Deebo and

1049
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: Kittle and McCaffrey's bad.

1050
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: Calf, they've been pretty good shape. But it's not what

1051
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: it makes no sense.

1052
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean that was flying around on the the old

1053
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: Reddit pages.

1054
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 2: Like last week. It's not gonna happen. Mail back question.

1055
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Is there a world where the Steelers actually start fields

1056
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: over Wilson if Russell is healthy, because Mike's pretty old school,

1057
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, Mike's a little bit of a throwback.

1058
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: I think, no matter.

1059
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: What, he would try at least for a couple games.

1060
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson veteran player proven more you just if you

1061
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: have to just dink and dunk, he can do that.

1062
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: The wild card that is feels. I think if Russell

1063
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: is healthy.

1064
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: Starts week one.

1065
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know how long that lasts, but I

1066
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: do think that Tomlin is giving him week one and

1067
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: probably I mean, give or take the first month, no

1068
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: matter what. Now they start owing three to zero to four,

1069
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: quick cook if they're two and two.

1070
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: But it looks pretty.

1071
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: Terrible quick cook again fields playing this preseason game.

1072
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: What does he look like?

1073
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: I keep pushing fields, but he can't be throwing balls

1074
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: into the dirt. He can't be taking sacks left and right.

1075
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he has to function, he has to play well.

1076
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: He has to kind of work in this offense. I'm

1077
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: not trying to speak out of both sides of my mouth,

1078
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: but it's on him to do some stuff too. But

1079
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: I think, no matter what, if he's healthy, Russell gets

1080
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Speaker 1: the start. And I'm not saying that's the right move.

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00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: It'll play yourself out, but I think Tomlin's gonna do

1082
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: that old school guy, veteran player, proven.

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Speaker 2: A lot star.

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Speaker 1: Just finished episode one of Hard Knocks, and from what

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Speaker 1: I've seen of Caleb so far, I'm worried. He seems

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00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: meek and shy, unconfident, and I don't see him being

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Speaker 1: a vocal leader. Just doesn't seem like the guy to

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Speaker 1: lead a team. Pretty has a similar vibe, quiet, soft spoken,

1089
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: but he makes plays, and we've yet to see what

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Speaker 1: Caleb looks like. I think it is very, very difficult

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00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: for any young human being to walk right in to

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00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: any situation an office, a sales team, a football team

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Speaker 1: and be the alpha and point and tell everyone what

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Speaker 1: to do. I have a hard time judging him for

1095
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: not like screaming at guys. You don't get to act

1096
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning day one of training

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00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: camp your rookie year, just like the CEO of a

1098
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: company probably wasn't acting like that if he'd been there

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Speaker 1: for twenty years his first year.

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Speaker 2: There's a hierarchy of life.

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Speaker 1: And there was a clip in the Hard Knocks where

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00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was DeAndre Swift, it might

1103
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: have been the backup running back who's like, hey, get

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Speaker 1: on these guys, It's not easy being one of the

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Speaker 1: youngest guys and having all these people looking at you, who,

1106
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: in that scenario are filthy rich. A lot of them

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00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: have had success, gone to Pro Bowls, and then you

1108
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: have to tell them what to do. Now, as time happens,

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00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: you become more comfortable.

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Speaker 2: It's easy.

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00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: The Peyton Manning we saw year five was that the

1112
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning day two of training camp as a rookie year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Caleb's going to be Peyton Manning. I

1114
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: can't judge his personality the first couple of practices.

1115
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Speaker 2: Of the training camp. That's just not fair and it's

1116
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: just stupid. Just put yourself in that scenario.

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01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: Whatever you do for a job, think about your first

1118
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: day at the job. Actually, regardless how old you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about right out of college. I'm

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01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: talking you could be forty and you just started a

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01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: job last year. The first couple months of the job,

1122
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: are you bosting everyone around? Probably you're kind of easing

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01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: your way into stuff, and this is the time to

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01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: ease your way into stuff. I actually think his personality

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Speaker 1: I felt a little he felt a little more normal

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Speaker 1: than I felt when I saw him at USC get

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01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: him around the guys he's got, you know, DJ Moore, Keenan,

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Speaker 1: Cool Cool Cats, Jalen Moore. Ebra Flus I thought was

1129
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Speaker 1: a big winner. I know a lot of people have

1130
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: DM me about day Ball's performance in The Hard Knocks.

1131
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was very football guy, like a lot

1132
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: of swear words, a lot of feed up on the desk,

1133
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot of just being in sweats all the time.

1134
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Speaker 1: And then you get Ebraflus, who just like, this guy's

1135
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. I'm not saying I'm coming around on him

1136
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be some star head coach. Pretty likable.

1137
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: I could see why people like Matt Eberflus, Nick Saban

1138
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: likes him. Players seem to like him, seems.

1139
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Speaker 2: I thought it was.

1140
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: A really really good showing for ebra Flus in the

1141
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: first episode.

1142
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Speaker 2: I really did.

1143
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not acting like they should give him an

1144
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,959
Speaker 1: extension yet, but I understand what I like this guy.

1145
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: And sometimes you watch a show that's part of entertainment

1146
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: you want and that's what the people that produce the

1147
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: show want to get. Whatever show. They want you to

1148
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: like some people and hate other people. It's a natural

1149
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: reaction for us. Oh, they're probably people listening to this podcast,

1150
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: I can't stand this fucking guy. I don't mind as

1151
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: long as you're listening so different that you know you

1152
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: might watch, You're like, I hate this Capleb Williams guy,

1153
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: he's pretty polarizing. I don't find him as polarizing at

1154
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: this point, like now the'se with the Bears.

1155
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 2: I just want to see how good he is.

1156
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: I want to see what he looks like as a player,

1157
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: and you guys know where I stand, Like, I think

1158
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: my expectations for him aren't as crazy high as some

1159
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: of these other people. Now, I had Fitz Morris, the

1160
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: fantasy pros guy who has Jayden Daniels above him, I

1161
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: would not do that. I don't even think the gap

1162
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: between those two players. I know Jayden had a great year.

1163
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: He's throwing to Malik Neighbors, who all reports come out

1164
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: of training camp. This guy looks like fucking Jerry Rice

1165
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: meets Terrell Owens. I mean, he's incredible. Brian Thomas Junior,

1166
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: who was awesome. They have the star left tackle that

1167
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: that team was stacked. Not acting like he's not going

1168
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: to be any good in the NFL. But I think

1169
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: sometimes that happens the gap between Caleb Williams and Jayden

1170
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 1: Daniels their entire lives up until nine games last year

1171
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: has been really wide and the NFL is really really hard.

1172
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: So I just I'm not a believer in Cliff Kingsbury's offense.

1173
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: And I know Shane Waldron and that style of offense,

1174
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: the play action, the boots, the waggles with a guy

1175
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: like Caleb, some of those they did a little montage

1176
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Speaker 1: of like five or six of Caleb's throws on the

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01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: run and some of these dps are just on the

1178
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: sideline going what the hell was that? Because his arm strength,

1179
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: his ability to scramble, and that's a lot of modern

1180
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: day NFL, and he can be really accurate on the move.

1181
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: And then you got Keenan, Allen, DJ Moore, guys that

1182
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 1: get open with these, and you got Roma Doonze who

1183
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: you can kind of throw it anywhere. He can make

1184
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: just acrobatic catch it. I guess Keenan can too that.

1185
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: If Caleb is good this year, they could be a

1186
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: really really explosive passing game. I think.

1187
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Speaker 1: As the question would be the offensive line, which I

1188
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: got news for you, most offensive lines.

1189
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Speaker 2: Aren't great most teams.

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Speaker 1: If you got their GM on the horn right now,

1191
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: and go, how many offensive linemen on your team do

1192
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: you feel good about? I would say the over under

1193
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: would be.

1194
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: Two and a half. I bet most teams.

1195
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Speaker 1: Like, we really like our left tackle and our right

1196
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: guard centers solid left guard.

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Speaker 2: We'd like to replace right tackle pretty ify.

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Speaker 1: Most teams don't go like, yeah, I got four Hall

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01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: of Famers and a really solid starter.

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01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: It's not the way it works. So if your thing is.

1201
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: Don't love our offensive line, as long as they're functional

1202
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: in your offense and you have a couple like long

1203
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: term starters, like yeah, it's on your offensive line.

1204
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: Coach to improve the random guys. But most teams do

1205
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: not have four Pro bowlers.

1206
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: It's why whenever people complain about their second corner, it's like, yeah,

1207
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL. Most times your second corner isn't

1208
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: that great. Like most guys aren't six or five long hair,

1209
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: jack edabs, super rich, I mean really smart, nice guy,

1210
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: great businessman, and he can sing like you usually don't

1211
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: get it all. That's not the way it happens. And

1212
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people complain with like every

1213
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: team has a weakness, and unless you're a great team,

1214
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna have several weaknesses, and a weakness is usually

1215
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: a group, right.

1216
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we like one of our three.

1217
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: Linebackers I've worked in these spots. You're constantly looking like, yeah,

1218
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: I think these three guys are better than the guy

1219
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: we got. Now, maybe the coach likes him, the position

1220
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: coach likes him, and he knows the playbook. So it's

1221
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: not like you cut him and.

1222
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: Sign that guy.

1223
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: But that's like you're not thrilled about most players. Let

1224
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: me rephrase that. I bet the Bears are bullish on

1225
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: a lot of guys on their team, but they need

1226
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: to show it when the bats come on. Like the

1227
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of the NFL. Most guys in the NFL

1228
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: are not DJ mooreton In, Keenan, Allen, question marks all.

1229
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: Over the place. You got to do it all the time.

1230
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: And even the good players like Keenan's been doing it,

1231
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: like I know every year if he's healthy, he's gonna

1232
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: be in the mix for the Pro Bowl and more

1233
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: likely go. But Jalen Johnson's a good example, like yeah,

1234
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: he's unreal year. Are you gonna do it the next three?

1235
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go to like four straight Pro Bowls.

1236
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: Where's gonna be up and down career? What are we doing?

1237
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 2: You got paid, Let's see what you got. I don't know.

1238
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope.

1239
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: I root for good players, but that's what great players do.

1240
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: Like every year, TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett, Travis Kelsey. These

1241
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: guys are healthy, they're kicking ass.

1242
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: And taking names. And then there are a lot of players.

1243
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: You go, oh, this guy made a Pro Bowl this year.

1244
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: Then he didn't make a Pro Bowl for a couple years,

1245
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: then he made a Pro Bowl.

1246
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 2: What makes the NFL so fascinate The great reality television

1247
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: show on television.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day, Audios, the volume