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Speaker 1: welcome to the Daily Show. I am d O Hugley
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Speaker 1: thank you guys. I had a great time. I met
Speaker 1: a lot of good people. Alack, happy black his moth
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Speaker 1: I got to meet a lot. So this couple, you've
Speaker 1: been married forty four stand up, stand up, you've been
Speaker 1: married fifty four years. Oh look, he got it right now.
Speaker 1: That is a long time. And you said the key
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Speaker 1: That's the wrong. And she's supposed to say that, you're
Speaker 1: supposed to say love, and you said, and you say,
Speaker 1: it's what madly in love? Alright, alright, I uh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have something nice for you guys, but only half
Speaker 1: of it, because you know, thank y'all for coming out.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Um. We we have a great show
Speaker 1: for your night. So we've gotta get into the headlines.
Speaker 1: This is a crazy story from California where a dad
Speaker 1: he drove his whole family off a cliff in a Tesla,
Speaker 1: so fortunately they all survived. When the paramids arrived, the
Speaker 1: wife said that he did it on purpose. Now I've
Speaker 1: been here for thirty years. I can tell you I
Speaker 1: love my wife and children very much, and I would
Speaker 1: never drive them off a cliff. But I thought about it.
Speaker 1: I thought about it. Anybody who's been in the car
Speaker 1: with screaming as kids in a cliff available, Either you
Speaker 1: thought about it or you're lying. Look at him. I
Speaker 1: thought about it, but I was patient. Kids will drive you.
Speaker 1: You asked me about that back room. One more damn time,
Speaker 1: we're going off the cliff. I swear even the drug
Speaker 1: will be like, we'll be defender, I mean hero, I
Speaker 1: mean defendant, all right. What I don't understand is how
Speaker 1: tesla cansvibe going off a cliff, but it came making
Speaker 1: down the street without blowing the filp. I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: But now we're gonna move on to the dumpsterfire that
Speaker 1: it's Fox News. Now you have got to hear the
Speaker 1: latest thing they're talking about. When it comes to police
Speaker 1: shooting black people. Many on the left know just who
Speaker 1: to blame and want to blame white supremacy. Here's something
Speaker 1: that will be The ladies of the View apparently don't know.
Speaker 1: White people do get beaten by the police. In fact,
Speaker 1: far more white people are killed every year by cops
Speaker 1: than any other race. According to an online organization that
Speaker 1: tracts this data, three seventy four white Americans died during
Speaker 1: police altercations in two If you average that out a
Speaker 1: little more than one per day. Um, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the ladies of the View know any of the
Speaker 1: names of the people. There seventy four people. So based
Speaker 1: on both academic studies and actual data, there is no
Speaker 1: systemic racism in policing. It doesn't exist. Of course, they
Speaker 1: are good cops, and I would say that's a vast
Speaker 1: overwhelming majority, and there is a small majority of bad cops.
Speaker 1: He said, it's small majority of bad cops. Now, that
Speaker 1: is a Freudian slip for your ass one. Um, obviously,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be surprising that police kill more white people
Speaker 1: than black people because they're way more of them, way more.
Speaker 1: That's like more white people die in NASCAR races than
Speaker 1: black people. Of course, Hey, somebody check on Bubba Wallace,
Speaker 1: make sure he alright, makes sure we got mad because
Speaker 1: but Sean is right, the police do need to stop
Speaker 1: killing white people too. Welcome to the struggle with my brother.
Speaker 1: But he's like the white Al Sharpton. It's great, um.
Speaker 1: And finally hears the story about why you should always
Speaker 1: keep your eye on your children. Meet Mason stone House,
Speaker 1: the six year old with a big appetite this past
Speaker 1: Saturday before his bedtime, eating the phone to play. And
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention. I was watching my show. But
Speaker 1: Mason wasn't playing a game. He was scrolling through the
Speaker 1: grub Hub app. What Dad didn't know is that Mason
Speaker 1: was actually placing order after order, and all those orders
Speaker 1: were being filled a parade of food delivery. The total
Speaker 1: damage nearly one thousand dollars, helped by Mason's generous spirit.
Speaker 1: And then he tipped on every single order. And that
Speaker 1: is why you drove your family off. For Cliff, that love.
Speaker 1: It is only a father would leave a kid and
Speaker 1: attended that long like man would never have with a mother.
Speaker 1: You ordered a thousand bottle with the food. He shouldn't
Speaker 1: be glad that he didn't open your brows in the
Speaker 1: history out of game A thousand dollars to keep that
Speaker 1: quiet list, you're gonna have all the foods you wanna do.
Speaker 1: Tell your mom for more where join? But do say,
Speaker 1: Sloan Goosey, what do you think about this whole rub
Speaker 1: ub history thing. Well, I'll tell you one thing. This
Speaker 1: would never happen with a black family. If a black
Speaker 1: child spent a thousand dollars on his father's phone, there
Speaker 1: wouldn't be any heartwarming news story about it. That thousand
Speaker 1: dollars worth of food would be served at that child's funeral.
Speaker 1: You never have it a little way again, unless there
Speaker 1: are some white woman talking about him on a true
Speaker 1: crime podcast. Dad a thousand dollars on my phone where
Speaker 1: I pay rent. He's dead. He's dead. So why do
Speaker 1: you think it was so lucky? I mean, listen, he
Speaker 1: was lucky, but also he needed to learn not to
Speaker 1: be so greedy. Okay, he was lucky because it was
Speaker 1: a white child, right. And the thing is he didn't
Speaker 1: have to order a thousand dollars worth of food all
Speaker 1: at once. No, oh, little man, you're supposed to order
Speaker 1: it a little bit every night, right, And then you
Speaker 1: keep this scam going for years, like you don't walk
Speaker 1: into a local grocery store with a gun's blazing. No no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, you just forget to have the scam half
Speaker 1: the ship at the self check out. But you gottamit
Speaker 1: this at a happy and he grab grab Hub refunded
Speaker 1: all the money. What do you mean? Rob Hub gave
Speaker 1: them all of the money back, refunded it all. Grab
Speaker 1: rob gave him a thousand dollars back. The hell that
Speaker 1: wouldn't give me seven dollars back with him driving out
Speaker 1: of my French fries. Do you know how hard I'd
Speaker 1: have to work to get a thousand dollars back from
Speaker 1: grab Hub. I'd have to start a hashtag to be
Speaker 1: trending on black Twitter called an N double a CP
Speaker 1: have a sitting at the grab hub headquarters with the
Speaker 1: ghost of Martin Luther cave a thousand dollars back. But listen,
Speaker 1: I wait a minute, I gotta do all this. I
Speaker 1: see never a baby. Yeah, it has a baby's perfect
Speaker 1: Yet why do you need to have a baby? Well one,
Speaker 1: because I looked like a mother three since I was fifteen.
Speaker 1: Hey man, listen, I started high school with decup titties
Speaker 1: that should have been way more stupid. Boys respected me too,
Speaker 1: because kids are an ultimate loophole for stealing ship. Just
Speaker 1: pretend the baby did it. You're gonna get it for free. Like,
Speaker 1: oh no, did my sweet baby boy crawl across my
Speaker 1: keyboard and order another channel? Back your little scalp. Somebody
Speaker 1: gonna get this baby. What if the baby snitches on you?
Speaker 1: First of all, my baby don't know better. Okay, but
Speaker 1: I look like having a snitch And ask baby crazy Joe.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna believe him? He's a baby. It's his words
Speaker 1: against mine. He only knows the story of them. Mama's
Speaker 1: not home, okay, Ship, mommy didn't do it. Come on, Plus,
Speaker 1: babies don't have object permanence. Okay, how's he gonna snitch
Speaker 1: on me? After I stopped existed? Where's mommy? Mommy's not home?
Speaker 1: Who got mommy? And chanel bag? That that would work
Speaker 1: for a little while, But obviously the baby is going
Speaker 1: to be an adult, and then what would you do?
Speaker 1: Didn't they get their own baby? And then that's how
Speaker 1: you build generational wealth. Now that that's a plan, don't
Speaker 1: say slow on everybody. When we come back, let me
Speaker 1: talk about how rapping can land you in prison, so
Speaker 1: you don't want to go away. Well, it comes back
Speaker 1: to the Daily Show now right now in Atlanta, the
Speaker 1: rapper Young Thug is on trial for gang activities, and
Speaker 1: it is not without controversy. Atlanta rappers Gunna and Young
Speaker 1: Thug responsible for dozens of chart topping hits. They find
Speaker 1: themselves at the center of a controversial debate in court.
Speaker 1: Should rap lyrics be used as evidence in the courtroom?
Speaker 1: The rappers lyrics one piece of evidence prosecutors are using
Speaker 1: in the indictment. The prosecution citing lyrics like that in
Speaker 1: the indictment as proof of criminal conspiracy. The district attorney
Speaker 1: believes he is the ringleader of the y c L
Speaker 1: gang and his lyrics are fair game. I think if
Speaker 1: you decide to admit your crimes over a beat, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use it. Yeah. That sounds like every mama I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. F y young people, when
Speaker 1: your name is Young Thug, are gonna You're gonna go
Speaker 1: to jail? Yeah, mumble rapper, But they heard him clearly
Speaker 1: on that wire tap. I know that the issue is
Speaker 1: should prosecutors use rap lyrics in criminal trials? That's what
Speaker 1: I want to talk about tonight in our segment long
Speaker 1: story short Well, since the nineties, prosecutors have used lyrics
Speaker 1: as evidence against indefendants in more than over five hundred trials.
Speaker 1: But don't get me wrong. If you rap about something
Speaker 1: you did do, well, that's a confession. If you rap
Speaker 1: about something you didn't do that is artistic expression. And
Speaker 1: here are just a few examples of ways rappers lyrics
Speaker 1: get used in court. A rapper named Terence Hatch, known
Speaker 1: as Little Busy, was trying for first degree murder. Prosecutors
Speaker 1: argued that a few cryptic words of one rap song
Speaker 1: were in fact a confession. Rapper McKinley Fipps was sentenced
Speaker 1: to thirty years in prison for manslaughter. Prosecutors presented splice
Speaker 1: together lyrics from two different songs as evidence at his trial.
Speaker 1: Police say Antoine Stewart, a rapper who goes by the
Speaker 1: name Twain Gotti, made a big mistake when he recorded
Speaker 1: the song right out. Police believe Stewart braggs through his
Speaker 1: lyrics about how he killed Brian Dean and Christopher Horton. Listen,
Speaker 1: everybody saw nobody saw Some of the details match the
Speaker 1: shooting happened on a porch. No witnesses immediately came forward,
Speaker 1: but others don't. The time of day is wrong, there
Speaker 1: wasn't a stabbing, the caliber of the gun is wrong,
Speaker 1: and there's only one victim mentioned not too. Based largely
Speaker 1: on that rap and on the accounts of two witnesses
Speaker 1: given years after the shooting, the rapper was arrested and
Speaker 1: charged with double murder. Okay, they got the gun wrong,
Speaker 1: they got the stabbing wrong, they got the number of
Speaker 1: victims wrong. The only thing they got right was the porch.
Speaker 1: And every black person I know got a goddamn porch.
Speaker 1: I mean, and by the way, not everything black people
Speaker 1: saying songs. It's true, like Bob Marley, he didn't actually
Speaker 1: shoot the sheriff. He just wanted you to think he did.
Speaker 1: Said y'all wouldn't put him. That's it, sir, mix a lot.
Speaker 1: You don't like big butts, no being more of a
Speaker 1: boo God, trust me. And I'm a comedian. I never
Speaker 1: in my life seem to wrap I and the priest
Speaker 1: walking to a damn bar. I've never seen that. Art
Speaker 1: is an expression. They use this to reflect black life
Speaker 1: in America, and now they're being punished for it, but
Speaker 1: some prosecutors say too bad. David Lebon is a former
Speaker 1: gang prosecutor. He's now the CEO of the Association of
Speaker 1: Prosecuting Attorneys. I would say, you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1: I cannot say that I'm rapping about stuff because this
Speaker 1: is what I live in and this is what I
Speaker 1: see every day, and then come into court and say
Speaker 1: everything that I said in that rap is completely untrue.
Speaker 1: You can have it both ways. It's called fiction. And
Speaker 1: if they they have a whole section in Barns and Nobles,
Speaker 1: read a book, bitch. I don't even think that prosecutors
Speaker 1: think their lyrics are confession. They just do it because
Speaker 1: it works, and it works because juries are made of people,
Speaker 1: and people are kind of racist. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: In a recent study, people were given identical lyrics and
Speaker 1: told that they either came from country artists or rap
Speaker 1: artists or heavy metal artists, and surprise, surprise, people were
Speaker 1: more likely to think that rap lyrics were written by
Speaker 1: a criminal. Clearly, rap is just code for black persons.
Speaker 1: Country is COVID, white person and heavy metalists covia. Who knows.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but there's violence in
Speaker 1: almost every art form, but the one with young black
Speaker 1: rappers is the only one that gets treated this way.
Speaker 1: And this isn't even hypothetical. There was a white woman
Speaker 1: on trial for murdering her husband and she had written
Speaker 1: an essay called how to Murder Your Husband? And guess
Speaker 1: what the judge he wouldn't allow the essay to be
Speaker 1: read in court because he said it could prejudice the jury.
Speaker 1: She luck, she lucky Dr Dre didn't write the forward.
Speaker 1: And I agree with that judge. It does prejudice the jury.
Speaker 1: The worst part about all of this is that rappers
Speaker 1: have to listen to their lyrics butchered in court by
Speaker 1: people with no flow at all. Hey, this is that
Speaker 1: slime ship, Hey y and Cell Ship Hey Killing twelve
Speaker 1: Ship murder Gang bitch Y and Cell until We're dead
Speaker 1: and Pale. I never killed anybody, but I got something
Speaker 1: to do with that body ready for war like I'm Russia,
Speaker 1: slime ball Like yeah, yeah, y'ah, why I lie? I
Speaker 1: got mob tized And y'all thought Nick Cannon couldn't wrap.
Speaker 1: So look, there're a whole lot of problems with the
Speaker 1: justice system in America, but this is an easy fixed,
Speaker 1: long story short, just stop using lyrics in court that Ryan,
Speaker 1: but don't use it against me. I was just kidding around.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned because when we come back, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: talking about this issue with a rapper whose lyrics got
Speaker 1: him sent to prison when I come back to the baby.
Speaker 1: So now my next best tonight is a rappers put
Speaker 1: him in prison for twenty one years, but he recently
Speaker 1: put out a new album called Son of the City.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Mac Phipps. It must be it must be
Speaker 1: weird to see the very thing you were convicted of
Speaker 1: a long time ago being in the headlines again. Huh yeah,
Speaker 1: and this time with another rapper. I know you're glad
Speaker 1: about that part. That's that. That's pretty it ain't you. Um?
Speaker 1: You remember with lyrics word that they used to send
Speaker 1: you to to send your prison, to send you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they used two different songs. It was a song
Speaker 1: I had called shell Shock and one called Murder Murder.
Speaker 1: So what they did was they took the chorus part
Speaker 1: from Murder Murder, which I said, murder, murder, kill, kill,
Speaker 1: It's real on the battlefield. So they took murder Murder
Speaker 1: and they took a line that I used from shell
Speaker 1: shock about my father while I said something to the
Speaker 1: effect like he gave me his name, he gave me
Speaker 1: the game, and if you f with me, he'll put
Speaker 1: a bullet in your brain. So they put them together
Speaker 1: and they said, murder, murder, kill kill. If you f
Speaker 1: with me, I'll put a bullet in your brain. This
Speaker 1: is the words of this young man. And then they
Speaker 1: pointed to me in court and that made me scared.
Speaker 1: His interview. But interestingly enough, because it's the thing, I think.
Speaker 1: I'm an artist like you an artist. I think that
Speaker 1: art should be protected. I think that there should be
Speaker 1: no limits on art. I shouldn't necessarily know if you
Speaker 1: need it or not. That's the purpose of art, right.
Speaker 1: But but ultimately, um, there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: who say a lot of things that actually did and
Speaker 1: that's the problem. There's a difference between artistic expression and
Speaker 1: a confession. And I think that some people are so
Speaker 1: determined to prove how hard they are where they came
Speaker 1: from that they're telling on themselves. And and the whole
Speaker 1: street coach snitches don't get they get immunity for prosecution.
Speaker 1: That's what they're getting, right, And and I guess and
Speaker 1: and to add to that, UM, I think that even
Speaker 1: if there are people that's doing, you know, doing what
Speaker 1: they're saying, I speak for the majority, and for the
Speaker 1: majority and straight fiction. I mean most of these guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, not the most the more well known artists,
Speaker 1: but let's talk about some of these artists that don't
Speaker 1: have as big of a name. In this song, he says,
Speaker 1: and I think prosecutors don't get the right to cherry
Speaker 1: pick what is and what is not that specifically the gig.
Speaker 1: What they do is they don't care about wheting right around.
Speaker 1: They care about if they can win. And I think
Speaker 1: that that what we have, this conflation with words and
Speaker 1: what mean and the impact. And we just showed you
Speaker 1: an example of the kind of biases that can Like
Speaker 1: I write an essay called how to Murder your husband?
Speaker 1: That isn't you write murder, murder, kill, kill, And it
Speaker 1: is and and it is unfair. But I think the
Speaker 1: whole thing is that we have to protect art in general,
Speaker 1: whether we agree like it or not. I don't like
Speaker 1: everything I hear, but art needs to be protected. And
Speaker 1: then I told I told you, and I told you
Speaker 1: how I totally agree because in one song, this young
Speaker 1: man may say, well, I killed for people, But in
Speaker 1: this very same song he says the own the Bugatti
Speaker 1: or Leerget or Hellicat and he's sitting here with a
Speaker 1: caught up, pointed attorney. So we know this is false.
Speaker 1: So I mean, we use we use similes fas you
Speaker 1: use high prob leaves. Right, you know we exaggerated. Kim
Speaker 1: said that we like to exaggerate. So I just think
Speaker 1: that it's unfair when they get to cherry pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: this part of the song is true, and this part
Speaker 1: of the song is fiction. I just think that's wrong.
Speaker 1: Even now you've been through everything you've been through, the
Speaker 1: one thing I noticed about you when I walk into
Speaker 1: your room you still got lighting your eyes. So that's
Speaker 1: that means. And it's not just because of what you do,
Speaker 1: is because of who you are, and there are does
Speaker 1: that for you. Man, So the fact that you could
Speaker 1: go through that have an experience that could turn you
Speaker 1: soured and you use it to create guests, web more
Speaker 1: art that says something right right and and there honestly, um,
Speaker 1: just being just being here is a reflection of of
Speaker 1: that hope that I kept the whole time I was
Speaker 1: there for twenty one years. I made a promise to myself.
Speaker 1: I said, I was never gonna let this situation turn
Speaker 1: me black hearted. I never wanted to be a bitter
Speaker 1: mad about it. You didn't want them to sit the
Speaker 1: way that it turns you with you, convict, I wasn't
Speaker 1: I like the win. I like the win, y'all, And
Speaker 1: you wasn't gonna turn you musicably bitter perside. You know.
Speaker 1: Some when I came out, I said, well, I gotta
Speaker 1: get the work because there's other guys who I left
Speaker 1: behind that are in similar situations. Master Piece brother Ce
Speaker 1: murders in a similar situation. You know, his image was
Speaker 1: used against him and um murder. So you know what's interesting.
Speaker 1: You have a new album now, it's called Son of
Speaker 1: the City. Now, did you use anything murder? Murder, kill,
Speaker 1: kill you? None of that? And I think I think
Speaker 1: much of that has to do with just maturities growing up.
Speaker 1: I'm a grandfather, you know what I mean. So I mean,
Speaker 1: ultimately I was going to mature as a musician anyway.
Speaker 1: A lot of these young men that's rapping about what
Speaker 1: they're rapping about today, they won't be talking about that
Speaker 1: in ten fifteen years. I mean This album uh is
Speaker 1: a reflection of a more mature, grown man. It's ten
Speaker 1: tracks on its favorite My favorite track is Proverbs because
Speaker 1: it's what I would tell the world if I had
Speaker 1: the world's attention for four minutes. Those words of what
Speaker 1: I would say, I ain't got four minutes. Give me
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Thirty seconds, all right, mellor tomorrows be filled
Speaker 1: with promise and the opposite of sorrow, amongst other things.
Speaker 1: For I know that it's a struggle just to go
Speaker 1: with the float when Feta take you many places you
Speaker 1: would rather not go. But fret not your soul, and
Speaker 1: not the fear of the things that you just might
Speaker 1: behold but cannot control. For in time. You know the
Speaker 1: reason everything has a season. I swear that not until
Speaker 1: it's cooked that we start eating. I believe in the
Speaker 1: power of us, made in their image and in their likeness.
Speaker 1: The reason we write this is what hopes that will
Speaker 1: inspire others to take it higher and further than those
Speaker 1: before us, because they're waiting for us. So your thoughts
Speaker 1: make your reality, and I wish that I can share
Speaker 1: with you'all all the formalities. But if I had to
Speaker 1: sum it up in just a few words that I
Speaker 1: only take seven on earth as it is in heaven.
Speaker 1: Noway little things look, I know, closing, but that's a
Speaker 1: damn show. Murder murder here, Max Wills, everybody. The album's
Speaker 1: Fun of the City is available. Okay, we gonna take
Speaker 1: a break and we're gonna be right back after then.
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