WEBVTT - #635 Packers Unscripted: Wild win 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.879 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:14.040 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by the 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:18.320 birthday boy, Western hod Kuits. Happy birthday, my friend. Thank you, buddy. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.560 These things creep up on you quickly. It's uh, it's 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.040 a it's funny every single year. Faster and faster it's coming. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:27.440 And I can't sit here and believe that I'm already 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.680 forty eight. But it happened quickly than I could have 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:35.519 ever imagined. So here we are. Well, you're your household 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:37.920 is full of birthdays this week, right, your son is 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:39.440 coming up in just a few days. Well, and that's 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.120 the other thing too. You know, we're any of your 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.559 kids within your birthday range. Okay, I'll tell you this. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.800 When your son is born about three days within the 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.000 range of your birthday, you've now had your last birthday, 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.360 so which is perfectly fine. The emphasis is in the 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.160 right place. But yeah, me and me and the kid, 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.880 I'll share the same week. Yeah, well, a fun weekend, 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.840 a fun week should say, in the hod Kowitz household. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.959 But with that, we have a Packers victory to talk about. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.600 And it was a forty five to thirty triumph over 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.200 the Chicago Bears, improving the Packers record on the season 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.440 to ten and three. And I'll just start with this West. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.839 I don't know if I've ever seen a second quarter 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.920 of football like that one that we saw Sunday night 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.840 at Lambelfield. That was crazy. I watched three different games 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.279 that night. The first quarter, it's this three to nothing 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:32.240 kind of like you know, barnstormer a little bit, and 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:38.800 then uh forty eight points or whatever it ended up being, 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.600 I believe, in the second quarter, in the second quarter, 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.400 and then you finish off the game with the Packers 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.600 having this huge defensive stand you know they don't they 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.000 allow seven total yards in the third quarter or whatever 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.559 it was. And then by the time I got done, 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:55.560 like I was just stunned. But here's the thing is 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.120 that total points scored seventy two of them in the 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.320 final three quarters. You have to find a way to win. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.560 And to the Green Bay, you know, Packer's credit, they 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.400 were able to get the job done. Well, that's the thing. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.280 As wild as that second quarter was, which was big 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.400 plays back and forth, there were five touchdowns in that quarter, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.560 scored on a play of longer than thirty five yards, 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.600 which was actually an NFL record for one quarter of 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.880 football based on statistics going all the way back to 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:26.359 the nine twenties according to NFL research. But after that, 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.640 after all that back and forth, and the Packers entered 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:36.600 the second half down one, it was domination by Green Bay. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.200 Quite frankly, the Packers offense was rolling. The defense did 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.959 not allow the Bears to get a first down until 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.360 I believe, like four minutes left in the fourth quarter, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.959 somewhere in that range. The Packers, once the game kind 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.040 of settled down, and this is what I wrote about 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.960 Sunday night, after We're all trying to calm down watching 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.600 everything that happened. Once the game itself had actually settled down, 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.320 the Packers were in complete command. Yeah, it was a 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.880 very decisive win in that regard. I mean, I think 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.679 it was pretty clear to anybody by the time the 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.400 game was over, the green Bay Packers were a much 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.560 better football team and much more complete football team, and 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.640 ultimately made fewer mistakes. And I know that saying something 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.639 considering some of the misques on special teams, but you know, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.680 when you look at the Chicago Bears, whether it be 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.000 the interceptions from justin fields, the fact that they went 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.000 into that that lull in the third quarter, they had 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.960 some huge opportunities potentially on special teams that got taken 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.839 away by penalties. A lot of times, Mike, this game 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.840 comes down to execution and discipline. For the Green Bay Packers, 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.160 both of those things swung in their favor. Yeah. Well, 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.720 what we saw Sunday night was really the Packers in 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.920 a lot of ways, overcoming a lot of different things, 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.600 and starting with the offense. The offense overcame a really 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.200 really sluggish start in the first quarter where there were 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:54.360 a couple of sacks, there was a botched handoff exchange. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.920 But then in the second quarter, the Packers started to 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.360 get their groove on offense. They were taking you know, 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:05.560 underneath throws, moving the chains, you know, they weren't necessarily 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.680 going for the for the big play. And once that 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.400 offense got rolling, the Packers were in a really good 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.560 rhythm offensively the rest of the ball game. You Know, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.080 what I thought was kind of the one of the 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.039 bigger plays. I would not call it the biggest because 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.599 it did the drive didn't produce points. But one of 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.599 the moments that I thought actually was really important for 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.880 the Packers early on was that thirty two yard completion 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.080 to Alan Lazard. Yeah, when they were backed up it 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.400 was a third and eighteen and the drive ended up 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.120 stalling out, and obviously, you know, some stilling still went 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.159 wrong for the Packers after that. But to me, it 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.559 seemed like the moment after that the offense really started 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.599 to find itself. Lazar became a big focal point. You know, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.400 they don't have Randall Cobbs, so they basically moved down 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.960 Lazard into that slot role. Everybody moved around, but La 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.080 Fleur said afterwards that was kind of the next guy 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.599 up there, And I thought Lazard gave them, while incredibly 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.960 different type of body type than Randall Cobb, gave them 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.720 a similar presence in terms of somebody that Rogers can 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.400 go to, somebody that he trusts and ultimately ends up 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.480 scoring that touchdown that I think to really get these, 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.960 you know, the offense kind of clicking once the ball 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.160 started rolling in Green Bay's direction. After at that, you know, 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.640 with the offense at that point, it wouldn't stop. I mean, 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.920 the Packers really the four and twenty some yards whatever 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.000 it was that they put together a bulk of that 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:19.560 happened after Lizard's catches and in the offense catching fire. Yeah. Absolutely. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.000 On the on the defensive side of the ball, we 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.159 saw the Packers give up two big plays for touchdowns 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.080 in this one. There was the jet sweep touch passed 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.520 to Jachim Grant and then the third down slant pass 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.440 to Demir Bird, and those speedy guys just just took 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.800 off and dashed the Packers for those long touchdowns. But 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:43.240 I'll say this one, I thought the Packers defense responded 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.799 to allowing those big plays in really really strong fashion. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:51.560 And by the same token, the Packers defense made two 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.080 big plays with its own that helps to wipe out 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:55.880 some of those big ones you allow. And of course 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.039 I'm talking about Rasul Douglass getting a pick six, his 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.600 second pick six in as many games. And then the 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:06.279 opening Bears possession of the third quarter, Preston Smith getting 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.360 the strip sack where Shawn Gary recovers, the Packers offense 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.920 turns that into a touchdown on a on a single play, 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.279 and that was the moment where suddenly, with the third 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.400 quarter starting touchdown, turnover touchdown for the Packers, they went 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:27.280 from down to up. My point is, you don't want 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.040 to give up those big plays. Obviously, on defense. But 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.440 if defensively you can make some big plays along the 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:37.040 way yourselves, it definitely helps to to mitigate the damage 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.480 when the other team does get absolutely and and really, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.960 to me, this kind of almost reminded me a little 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.040 bit of a boxing match where you had an opponent 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.279 that's gonna throw some pretty heavy haymakers. You're gonna take 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.400 a few on the chin. You kind of have to 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.760 bite down on the mouthpiece and keep moving forward. Though 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.240 a hundred yards and two touchdowns off of those two plays, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.480 justin fields only through for two and twenty four the 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.560 entire game, a bulk of his production were on those 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.360 two plays. And give credit where credit is due. I actually, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.680 you know everyone rips on Matt and Aggie and the 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.320 Bears coaching staff. Actually, they have a really good coaching staff. 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.240 I think there's probably not enough talent there. But they 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.040 get those guys open in space, they scheme things up, 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.960 those guys made plays. They put their players in a 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.760 position to make plays. I think the bigger issue for 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.560 them was they didn't get David Montgomery going in this 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.000 game the way they were able to do it the 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.520 week earlier, even though they lost David Montgomery was really 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.640 the catalyst for them sort of finding themselves offensively. Justin 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.120 Fields had to do less. Justin Fields felt he had 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:35.960 to do more in this game. He scrambled a little 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:37.920 bit more, but he also made some ill advised passes 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.880 as well. Some he paid for, some he didn't. But 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.320 the Greeny Packers were just so much more consistent. When 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.640 you have Aaron Rodgers throwing for three d what was it, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.560 forty one yards hundred forty passer rating Justin Fields, you 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.040 know he's sitting there over on the other side of 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.000 things with the seventy. When there's that type of differential 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:58.160 between the two, it's gonna favorite Green Bay. But more importantly, defensively, 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.440 it's that speech. I don't want to make it out 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.040 to be like this. This you know, win one for 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.680 the Gipper thing when one for the Preston But you 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.480 know Preston Smith going in there and telling the guys, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.800 this is not up to our standard. We are losing 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.640 to a four win team, a four and eight team 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.080 that's starting to think of it's offseason. We gotta play better. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.760 It's not just good enough to say that. You have 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.280 to come out and perform yourself. And Justin I should 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.920 say Preston Smith. Did that set the tone for that 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.280 second half and what Green Bay's defense was able to accomplish. Yeah, absolutely, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.640 when I got when a guy speaks up in the 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.800 locker room like that at halftime and says, hey, this 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.240 is not who we are and then goes out there 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:37.080 on the second snap for the Bears and makes that play, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.160 gets the strip sack and and completely turns things around. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:44.800 That says something about about leadership, but also a leader 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.280 pointing to himself and saying and saying, you know, hey, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.400 maybe I wasn't who I was in the first half. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.520 Either this is this is who I am, this is 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.320 who we are and uh. And the Packers defense really 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.120 did turn things around. And is there anything more demoralizing 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.600 in the sport of football then when a guy gets 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.920 a strip sack fumble and Rashawon Garry recovers it and 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.240 they also draw the holding penalty on the play they 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.920 played through the hold. An incredible for performance by Preston Smith. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.120 And I mean five sacks now in his last four games. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.640 I saw one stat I think from Pro Football Focus 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.760 he has as many pressures over the past month as 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.440 he did all of last season. Preston Smith since coming 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.120 off that one game absence from the oblique, the guy's 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.360 been playing with his hair absolutely on fire. Yeah. Well, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.240 and you mentioned too how the Packers didn't allow David 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.199 Montgomery to get going. But the other statistic that really 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.440 jumped out at me, and that speaks to even if 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.440 you even if you put the pick six aside for 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.319 just a second, but you look at what Russeul Douglas 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.360 and Eric Stokes did as the starting boundary corners in 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.160 this game. Alan Robinson was back for the Bears and 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.240 he's a big time performer. Darnell Mooney's their number two receiver. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.760 Those two guys in this game eleven targets, three catches 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.840 thirty three yards. That speaks to what Stokes and Douglas 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.840 are doing and holding down their responsibilit at east against 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.800 the top receivers for the opponent. And uh, as much 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.440 as the Bears were in the game and obviously had 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.600 a ten point lead at two different times in the 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.760 first half of this game, justin fields never really got 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.880 going so to speak. I mean, yes, it was it 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.880 was the two big place for touchdowns. There was the 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.360 punt return for a touchdown, but justin fields never really 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:27.280 got going. Because the guys he needed to rely on, Montgomery, Robinson, Mooney, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.800 those guys weren't doing the type of damage that that 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.640 can set a tone for an offense. And uh, and 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.640 that's why the Packers defense eventually prevailed. And I want 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.480 to give a shout out here. It's gonna sound like 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.079 somewhat of a weird shoutout, but I want to give 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.560 a shout out to Kevin King. Is Kevin King only 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.240 played three defensive snaps in this game. I imagine that 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.880 that was tough for him. Yeah, but this defense is 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.480 going to need him, This secondary is going to need him. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.960 We've seen how these things go. The first question in 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.280 Credit to Match nine minutes a question every journalist should 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.160 be asking to Matt Lafleur. You know, what are you 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.360 gonna do when Jayer comes back? And you know, and 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.720 Matt and have an answer for that right now? I 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.760 don't think anyone does, because for so long the Packers defense, 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.000 and really on both sides of the ball, has been 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.600 just under this this abundance over abundance of injuries where 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.679 it's been next man up, next man up, next man up. Well, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.520 what do you do when you start to get guys back? 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.240 What do you do when you guys start to get healthy. 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.800 Unfortunately for King it resulted in him not being in 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.800 the starting lineup in this game. But when you see 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.240 Russeul Douglas making the plays that he's made over the 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.319 past two months, when you see Channon Sullivan making a 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.120 huge play at the end of the game in the slot, 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.240 Eric Stokes I think is on the precipice and becoming 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.160 a really good player in this league, and he's been 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:41.600 their most consistent, healthy, viable corner throughout the season. It's 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.880 gonna lead to some tough decisions, but we all have 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.360 all seen how one hamstring injury here, one head injury, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.319 one foot injury, it changes the complexion of the season. 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.800 And especially when you look at Jaire Alexander and his shoulder. 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.559 Jaire Alexander doesn't hurt his shoulder. You might not have 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.200 her Soul Douglass in Green Bay right now, but the 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.200 Green Bay Packer are gonna need that secondary to be 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.040 able to make a championship run. And I think even 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.920 if it isn't this game, it could be the next one. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.200 It's about making sure that you are ready when you're 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.000 called upon, and it was Soil Douglas credit man I have. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.360 I can't remember Mike. I wasn't here for the Super 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.760 Bowl run, But I can't remember a veteran player that 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.880 came in at the juncture that he did, with the 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.040 low expectations that were cast upon this young man coming 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.400 off at Arizona's practice squad that's made the kind of 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.080 impact he has. This wasn't some undrafted free agent we 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.360 didn't know about. This wasn't some guy that was playing 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.800 a different position. This guy was a former third round 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.480 draft pick who Jerry Gary gave him a couple of 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.760 tips on how to watch film better, and he's playing 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.280 out of his mind. Yeah, it's it's it's really been 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.000 something to watch. Yeah, it's remarkable. I mean, you we 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.320 we talked about from the Super Bowl season. You know, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.040 guys like Eric Walden, Howard Green, you know, veteran players 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.160 who joined the defense midstream, so to speak, and became 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.679 very solid players and solid contributors. But nobody's going to 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.320 say that, you know, in two thousand and Howard Green 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.920 or Eric Walden is doing what we're sewell Douglas is 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.800 doing for this defense when when the defense absolutely needed 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.959 him with Jaire Alexander being out for such a long stretch, 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.439 you know, and Green he was such a great player 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.040 for them. But they had Ryan Pickett, and they had b. J. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.160 Raggie who was coming into his own. B. G. Rodgers 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.800 should have been a pro bowler that year. You you 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.720 look at Eric Walden, well, it was still the Clay 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.280 Matthews show. Bristil Douglas is one of the best players 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.839 on this entire defense right now. Defense with a lot 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:28.200 of good players. It's quite the fine. Hey, but they 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.040 didn't get Stefan Gilmore. They don't know what they're doing, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.600 my goodness. All right, Well, serious x M NFL Radio 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.000 delivers hard hitting analysis and up to them in NFL 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:42.400 News that true football fanatics need seven three sixty five. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.600 And at Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone like 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.800 our Wisconsin Cheese Kurds, mac and Cheese, golden fries, and 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.200 creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or sub 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:54.360 in a bowl. Cousin Subs, we believe in better all right. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.040 I want to get back to a couple of thoughts 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:57.520 on the offense first, and then we do have to 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.319 turn our attention to special teams. But offensively, there were 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.920 there was a lot to like in this game. And 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.240 I say that in the sense of in the sense 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.000 of a lot to like in terms of you know 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:13.600 your your staples, so to speak. But then also these emergencies, 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.440 and what I'm talking about is Davante Adams had another 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.320 double digit reception, a hundred yard game, and a couple 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.200 of touchdowns. Davante Adams doing his thing right. We saw 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.280 we saw a j Dillon grinding out the yards in 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.720 the fourth quarter that touched on driving the fourth quarter 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.600 that took eight and a half minutes off the clock. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.000 Dylan I believe, had five or six carries for thirty 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.680 six yards on that drive. That's the kind of stuff 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.920 that that the Packers offense is built on. That's what 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.360 you like to see. But you mentioned it before, Al 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.720 Lazard stepping up and having a really really productive game 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:49.880 and then also Josiah Deguara, Marcedes Lewis. This is probably 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.600 the most productive I think almost certainly the most productive 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.320 tight end performance the Packers have had in the passing game, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.840 uh since Robert Tonyan went down with his season ending injury. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.600 And when you start to see those types of those 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.960 types of things, you just wonder how many more doors 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.560 is that going to open for this offense down the stretch, 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.840 and as you head into January and whatnot, when some 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.040 of these guys who have been a little quiet, you 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.280 might say, in terms of the passing production, suddenly they have. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.480 You know, Marcedes has four catches for fifty yards. Josiah 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.680 Deguire gets a few catches as well. And and when 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.600 those guys are always doing what they're doing in the 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.800 run game on topic, well, and this was the Josiah 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.560 Deguire that I remembered from the opener in Minnesota. A 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.760 guy that's gonna be able to catch passes for you 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.560 and a number of different positions. He's going to be 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.520 able to throw some lead blocks, He's going to be 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.400 able to be used as that Swiss Army knife he 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.320 was in some eye formation looks in this game, as 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.600 as that f position. The thing I loved about Louis, though, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.160 is we've seen it time and time again, Mike. You 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.120 know how like DeVante Adams draws all this attention, you 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.480 got four or five six, some teams just put all 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:03.160 eleven guys on him on the Mercedes. Lewis lulls people 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:07.680 to sleep. It is remarkable how he goes uncovered in 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.120 this league, in the National Football League, a guy that's 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.960 been doing this for sixteen years that has made the 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.040 production that he has, a former pro bowler himself. And 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.000 it happens where they'll give him these cushions. He sneaks 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.680 out into the flat and nobody's within six yards, I swear. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.160 Defenses see him lined up in his usual position, and 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.160 they just they just mentally immediately go, Okay, he's blocking, 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.120 and they just they don't think about the possibility that 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.400 he's gonna leak out for a pass. And he and 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.080 he makes Now he's not he's not gashing anybody for 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.800 thirty forty yards, but he's making these eleven, twelve, fifteen 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.480 yard catches that are moving the chains and getting things done. Well, 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.280 that's the best part about If he has this twenty 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.800 yard catch where he's just getting down failed right, And 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.280 could you imagine Aaron Rodgers mentioned that the twenty three 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.200 yard touchdown play to Aaron Jones, that wasn't the design. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.680 The design that it was to follow Mercedes Lewis down 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.760 the scene. Could you imagine if he would have called, 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.800 if Mercedes Lewis would have caught a twenty three yard 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:01.840 touch down down the scene. What would have happened in 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:06.080 lambeau Field. There would have been popcorn flying everywhere with chance, 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.680 you know, and in howling and embarking and everything. But 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.960 four catches fifty one yards for Lewis. That's his most 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.240 offensive production in terms of catches and receptions in his 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.200 three plus years with the Packers, his most overall going 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.520 back to that week through third week three season in 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.840 two thousand seventeen where he had three touchdown catches for Jacksonville. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.240 The guy still can perform at this level. And for 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.000 Josiah Deguire to be picking up some of that Robert 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.760 Touny in load, uh, you have to see what happens 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.000 with Dominick Dafty. He got pretty banged up in this game. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:40.320 But you know, the Packers made that investment in Deguara 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.200 third round pick, a high draft pick, because they saw 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.240 the Swiss Army knife tools and how those could be 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.280 implemented in this offense with Matt Lafleur. And I thought 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.480 that by far was his best game as a pro. Yeah. Absolutely. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.919 There were some regrets from this game, however, one of 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.639 those being on the offensive side. Yet another injury on 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.760 the offensive line. Billy turn goes down with the knee injury. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:05.040 Veteran Dennis Kelly stepped in at right tackle. By all accounts, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:10.120 held up just fine and whatnot. Matt Lafleur suggested that 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.639 Billy Turner might not be out for the season, that 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.200 this might not be a super serious type of injury, 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.400 but evaluation still going on. We will just have to see. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.640 He's certainly going to be out at least for something. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.679 I mean, I would think but if the Packers, based 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.439 on how that injury looked, if Billy Turner can actually 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.359 come back at some point in this season, you'll be 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.520 thrilled with that. Yeah, Billy probably set a record. I'm 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.280 not saying this to make a joke. I mean, he 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.479 was in that blue tent forever after that age. They 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.040 were checking him out for a long time. Usually something happens, 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:43.480 they get him on the cart, they get into the 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:44.960 locker room, but they really took a look at it 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:46.680 and Billy was able to actually walk back to the 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.280 locker room on his own, very slowly, very gingerly. But 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:50.960 the fact that he was able to do that, you 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.800 hope that that bodes well. I'll tell you what, Mike. 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.160 I remember Mike McCarthy used to talk about NFL teams 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.640 average to a c L tears a year. Green Bay 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.600 Packers are basically covered for the next three season on 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.760 that metrics. So you hope that that you know, Turner, 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:05.520 this thing turns out all right, you can get him 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.040 back because him and Royce Newman, they were the only 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:09.800 players on the offensive side of the ball to play 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.040 every snap this season and he's done all of it 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.359 at right tackle. Uh Now, Dennis Kelly, credit to him. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.040 He came in played really well for a dude that 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.040 hasn't played in an actual game in a d and 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.720 twenty one days. But still, I mean, there's a reason 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.760 why Billy Turner has been that rock, as Matt Lafleur said, 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.879 and Green Bay really needs him for a title run. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.120 So hopefully the good news there will be some more 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:35.840 good news regarding Turner as as this week unfolds special 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.119 team side of things, though, a really really rough performance 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.760