1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: My wife came out to me as a lesbian yesterday, 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: and I'm shattered. This is okayop home to the craziest 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: true stories on Earth. I'm Sophia and Riley. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: What's so to be sad about? You like girls? I 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: like girls? You guys, I'm more in common. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: You have so much in common? Now, why that's true? 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: Happy celebrate? Yeah? 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Well, Leshill thirty six says we've been together for ten years, 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: married for four. 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Ooof that's ouch OUCHI. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: I was gonna put fourteen nuts ten okay in years 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: a decade years, yeah, and just fighting. 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: Out she was slash. Is the love of my life 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: and the thought of living life without her is unbearable. 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Yesterday morning, I woke up noticed her sitting on the 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: patio crying, so I obviously went to go console her 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: and figure out what was wrong. Well, fighting back tears, 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: she manages to tell me that she's a lesbian and 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: she's so so sorry. She isn't attracted to me anymore, 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: but she also doesn't want to leave me. I always 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: known she was into women as well, but it was 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: never an issue for me. We've had quite a few 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: threesomes with different women over the years, and they've all 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: been amazing. 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: I like how we casually just see. 26 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: It's like we've had so many three simes. 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. 28 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: I've even been fine with her exploring that side of 29 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: herself with other women without me. I just wanted her 30 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: to be happy and fulfilled. Oh my god, that's sad. 31 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: The entire day was spent either crying or talking about 32 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: our now uncertain future. All the plans we had made 33 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: about buying a home, traveling, getting dogs and cats, retirement 34 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: went up in smoke. We had a fantastic sex life 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: up until just a few days ago. We would have 36 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: sex at least a few times a week, and we 37 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: rarely failed to get each other off. 38 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: Time out These people having sex multiple times a week? Yeah, 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: or I sign up? Where do you find a relationship 40 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: like that? Not saying I want that, but it's just 41 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 3: like in the future, in the future, when you're married, 42 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: what kind of moves? What kind of riz do you 43 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: gotta have for a lady to be like? Yo, let's 44 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: what's it go? 45 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 46 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: Just let me know. Guys, you having sex multiple times 47 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: a week? Let me know how are. 48 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: You doing it? 49 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: How are you making that happen? 50 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: We experimented and grew with each other over the years, 51 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: exploring new kinks and figuring out new ways to please 52 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: one another. I told her I didn't blame her, that 53 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: if she really is a lesbian, it's not her fault 54 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: and she hasn't really done anything wrong, but it doesn't 55 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: make it hurt any less. She's my best friend. We 56 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: had Sasha have such a wonderful, supportive relationship, and we've 57 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: been through so effing much together. I can't stand the 58 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: thought of losing her and starting over. She said she 59 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: doesn't want to leave me, that she still wants a 60 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: future with me, just without the sex. But she also 61 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: understands how unfair that is to me, so she's fine 62 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: with me finding an f buddy or two if I wanted. 63 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: All I really want is her though. I'm so insanely 64 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: attracted to her, and I make sure to tell her 65 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: so every day. She's the sexiest woman in the world 66 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: to me. But finding out that the attraction is one 67 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: sided as obviously shattered my heart and crippled my self esteem. 68 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: Oh so sad. A. This is so sad because it's 69 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: clear that they both care about each other, they just 70 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: care in different ways. 71 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, he's so sad that the illness. 72 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: The illness or your passion for the story. 73 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh both. Yeah, I'm Zobi. Guys. Oh, I forgot trigger 74 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: warding for sickness in this episode, getting sick, getting sick. 75 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: If you don't like listening to someone sniffle, you. 76 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: Will get sick in a couple of days if you 77 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: listen to this. 78 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm chrissing here right now, so stop you're sick. 79 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I'm certain most of 80 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: the comments I will get will be along the lines 81 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: of move on or the classic lawyer up start hitting 82 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: the gym, But I don't know if I'm strong enough 83 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: to do that. Well, if you hit the gym, you 84 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: will be strong enough, dude. 85 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: Fact, that's what I did. 86 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: Look at me now, I've yet to do that. 87 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm pretty too. 88 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: I want to be buff. I want to have. 89 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: Cora arms, Dude. That's what my friends keeps telling me. 90 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, I want to go to the gym 91 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: and just like be. 92 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: I want to be so buff. 93 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,279 Speaker 2: Do it. 94 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: Motivation, Ah, that's the kicker. It's not motivation, it's discipline. 95 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't have that either. I'm praying she's going to 96 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: wake up and realize she's made a mistake. That's just 97 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: that she's just overwhelmed and confused. Deep down, I know 98 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: that's not how this works, but the wounds are still 99 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: so fresh. I'm grasping at any little straws of hope 100 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: I can't find. We don't have any kids. All our 101 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: pets have passed away, but we did just move into 102 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: a new house last week, so we may be stuck 103 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: together until next March at least. I just want my 104 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: wife back. 105 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: The pets part and the kids. 106 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: Do they have kids? 107 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: No, they don't have kids. Their pets they're basically their kids. 108 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: But basically have kids. Yeah, they way, I'm totally read 109 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: over that. That's so this is really sad because it's 110 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: not really any No, no one's at fault, but it 111 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: still sucks for everyone. 112 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: She didn't realize this, Since she didn't. 113 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: Realize, like she just didn't know, And it could be 114 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: a case of, like, you know, sexuality is fluids. She 115 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: could have been attracted to them and then realize that 116 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: she doesn't have that attraction anymore, and it could be 117 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: something like that. But like, either way, it's still like 118 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: this is hard. But there's an update, maybe it gets better, 119 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: I hope. 120 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: So what what should OP do? I mean, I just 121 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: just to hit the gym. 122 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, lawyer of hit the gym. 123 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: That's kidding. 124 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: This happened today, Give it a week. Hit the gym. Yeah, 125 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: it'll be fine. 126 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: I think that I think that you can't expect her 127 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: to like change her mind, because she's she probably would 128 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: not have just told you the first time she thought 129 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: about it. Probably she's probably thinking about it for a while. 130 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: And that's what I think. I think she would have been, like, Yeah, like. 131 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: What women do with breakups, they like wait, they like 132 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: kind of like console the relationship, think about everything, and 133 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: then they like, I feel like women break up months 134 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: before they actually do, like emotionally, and then they just 135 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: build up the courage to do it. My friend, a 136 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: friend of mine, is recently going through that. He's a guy, though, 137 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: so I'm like it, it's interesting. It happens both ways, 138 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: So it's not like women and men like. 139 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, some people just break up differently. Yeah, and they're 140 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: thirty five and twenty nine. 141 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, dang ye. 142 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: Hopefully you still got your hairline, my dude, hopefully hopefully. 143 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Oh there's an update. 144 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: Cab Oula reddit O La Hola and moved to Mexico. 145 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: A long time no talk, I figured it was about 146 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: time to update y'all on the roller coaster that has 147 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: been the last year of my life. Allow me to 148 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: start with a few apologies. Sorry for the jumble mess 149 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: that was my original post, and apologies to everyone that 150 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: reached out that I didn't get back to. One year 151 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: ago today, I woke up and got out of bed, 152 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: blissfully aware of the fact that my life was about 153 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: to crumble around me. That morning, I found my wife 154 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: on our back patio, clearly in distress. So obviously I 155 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: put on my best husband hat and went to figure 156 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: out what the issue was. I assumed it was something 157 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: work related, but I was very wrong. Well, fighting back tears, 158 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: she manages to tell me that she's a lesbian and 159 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: she's so very sorry. I'll never forget the feeling of 160 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: the world closing in on me as the most intense 161 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: fear of panic, confusion, and grief began to set in. Initially, 162 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: she said she wasn't going to leave me, that we 163 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: could do couples therapy and figure out a path forward together. 164 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: Oh of course I agreed, No, thank you, Yeah, nice, Yeah, 165 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: that is. That is sweet, But I think that maybe yeah, 166 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if you can 167 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: come back from that as a relationship. You can come 168 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: back from his friends, but I don't know about. 169 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's attracted to she's not. 170 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: She's not attracted to anymore. Like that's yeah. Three days 171 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: after receiving the news, I was informed by my mother 172 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: that my stepdad was diagnosed with stage four lung cancer. 173 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Three days after that, I was told 174 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: by my father that my stepmom was also diagnosed with 175 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: skin cancer. Oh my god, dude, that is the worst 176 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: week ever. 177 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: Bad trio. This is like things like this happened in threes. 178 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: Apparently Jesus, whenever my grandpa died, the other people died 179 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 3: like very close. 180 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is happening here. Crazy. 181 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: Oh thankfully, by still thankfully, my stepmom had surgery and 182 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: his cancer free, but my stepdad wasn't as fortunate. He 183 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: passed away last November. I'm so sorry. He was a wonderful, funny, kind, 184 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: successful and impressive man and I miss him a lot. 185 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: Having all of these things hit me within a week 186 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: caused me to completely spiral out of control. That's completely understandable. 187 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: I refrained from going to work. I couldn't eat, I 188 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: couldn't sleep. I merely existed. I became one with my 189 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: couch and distracted myself with hockey podcasts and the weed. 190 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: My wife did her best to be there for me, 191 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: but she was obviously going through her own turmoil, and 192 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: she retreated into her own world physically and emotionally. For 193 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: a bit of backstory, she had spent her life with 194 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: crippling anxiety and the mere thought of a tough conversation 195 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: was enough to cause her to break down crying. But 196 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: months prior to this, she had been taking anti anxiety meds. 197 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: So now she was finally able to communicate to me, 198 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: not only that she was gay, but all the other 199 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: time I had let her down ten years worth of 200 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: moments I had been inconsiderate or insufficient as a partner. 201 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: M wow. 202 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: I always thought we had communicated well, but apparently that 203 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: was more one sided. And I had always thought I 204 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: did a wonderful job as a husband. I tried to 205 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: be attentive, thoughtful, caring, and compassionate. I was never abusive 206 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: or cheated. We rarely fought, and when we did, we 207 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: always ended up talking it out. Like adults. I thought 208 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: I was doing a great job, but I wasn't doing 209 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: the things she needed out of a partner. But since 210 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: she never communicated it to me, how was I to know? Also, 211 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: she needed a woman out of the partner, so that 212 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, there were certain things who could not give her. 213 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, depends on where when she figured that out though, Yeah, 214 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: because she could buy up until yeah. 215 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: And then and then and then realized that she just 216 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: wasn't attracted him. Yeah. 217 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 3: And this is a very cons things, Yeah, very hard 218 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: conversation with their crippling anxiety. 219 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Hearing about all these moments that I 220 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: had let her down hurt like hell, But it also 221 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: gave me a light at the end of the tunnel, 222 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: a mission save marriage. Oh No, I couldn't do anything 223 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: about her being gay, but I could damn sure and 224 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: make up for every instance of neglect. I put together 225 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: a plan to prove to her I was worth staying with. 226 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: I surprised her with the picnic, got us tickets to 227 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: the circus, made a reservation at a restaurant for the 228 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: first time in my life. Oh yeah, and took her 229 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: for her favorite kind of food. You've never made a 230 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: restaurant reservation. That does sound like maybe you were a 231 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: slacken in the marriage. What never made a restaurant reservation. 232 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: I made restaurant reservations. 233 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes you just walk in ype. 234 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. He should be taking her some fancy 235 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: dinner place. 236 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: Well, she doesn't like that. 237 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that's true. Maybe he should just like. 238 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: In a nice sunset. 239 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: It's true. 240 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: Is not a good isn't that a good time? Isn't 241 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: that kind of cheap too? 242 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't mind she dates. It's just because she's saying 243 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: that she was unhappy and so, and he's saying, this 244 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: is the first time I've ever done this. Ah yeah, 245 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: But for me, I don't need to go to a 246 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: fancy restaurant. I'll take tacos. I began learning French. She's 247 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: French Canadian. I took the lead on planning our next 248 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: spig vacation. I started writing her a song, Oh my God. 249 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I was going to give her guitar lessons, and she 250 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: expressed interest in the past. I spent every minute of 251 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: every day for the next two months figuring out ways 252 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: to show her just how much she meant to me. 253 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: She was also able to confess that she wanted children. 254 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: We had agreed early on that kids weren't on the table, 255 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: but she had a change of heart and for her, 256 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: I would have absolutely done it, and I told her 257 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: so numerous times. Waite was kids. Now I'm confused about 258 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: this relationship. It says that she wants children. Yeah, it 259 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: seems like he's trying to keep this relationship going, but 260 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: she's not attracted you. 261 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: She's not. 262 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 3: But on her side, yeah, I understand her clippling anxiety. Yeah, 263 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: a lot of this could have been avoided if she 264 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: would communicate oh yeah, her things. And I feel like 265 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: not putting no one's blame here, no, but it just 266 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: make life a lot easier if she would have communicated 267 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 3: a lot more of these things, like the kid thing, Yeah, 268 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: that could have changed some stuff. 269 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: But I'm just kind of like wondering what she wants 270 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: out of this relationship because it seems like neither of 271 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: them want to leave because it seems like they both 272 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: care about each other very deeply. Now she's saying that 273 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: she wants kids, So does she want kids with him? 274 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 3: Do they want kids now? Or does she express interest 275 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: in the past and didn't bring it up. 276 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: That's what I thought. I thought it was a latter. 277 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: I don't think they want kids now. 278 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: I think she was also able to kiss that she 279 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: wanted children or she wanted so maybe she wanted them 280 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: in the past. 281 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if that was the case, that would very interesting. 282 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: Like I don't feel attracted to you, but I want kids. 283 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: Well that's no, that's what I'm asking. Yeah, that's wild, 284 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: Like this relationship is very interesting to me. Yeah, I don't. 285 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you still he would you still smash? 286 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm not attracted to you, but give me a baby 287 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: right now. No past, You're still attracted to me my past. 288 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: But I'm just using you for your goodies pass. You're 289 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: juice the pass. I think the best I think for 290 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: them because they still care about each other. I feel 291 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: like friends is good, but I feel like they need 292 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: to separate. I don't think this is a good relationship 293 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: for either of them to be in when one person 294 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: is like deeply in love and the other person like 295 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: obviously cares very deeply but doesn't have that same attraction. 296 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: I believe once you pass certain lines in a relationship, 297 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: you can't go back back to friends. Yeah, like they went. 298 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they're married. If I'm friends with someone 299 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: and we have sex or whatever, It's be very hard 300 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: to come back and be friends for me. For me, 301 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 3: like if I pursuit a relationship, true and I gained 302 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: because for me that part is having an emotional connection. 303 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: So it's one on one's fair. Some people can handle it. 304 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Me, I don't think I could handle it. Well, That's 305 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: why I just don't think it's like healthy for either 306 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: of them to like stay in the same I think 307 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt both of them in the long. 308 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 309 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: In May, she left the country for a girl's trip 310 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: to the Dominican. It had been planned for at least 311 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: a year. We agreed to go minimal contact during the 312 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: week long trip so she could get her head straight 313 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: and really figure out what she wanted. We actually hooked 314 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: up the day before she left, and it was the 315 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: first time in two months. I felt like everything was 316 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: actually going to be okay. But the day she came home, 317 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: she officially ended our marriage. Wait, why did they hook up? 318 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm so confused. 319 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: That sucks. Due up sucks. They've been working, They've been 320 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: going to counseling, they've been working on themselves. 321 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: You can't counsel away her gainess that. 322 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: I are there are counselors that can do that. 323 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: We hate them, the bad counselors. 324 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 325 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: Bad? 326 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: But that sucks. Yeah, they hooked up. 327 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: He's a lot of the tunnel this, yeah, trip is 328 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: gonna save our relationships, save her marriage. 329 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: And then he's like she goes back. 330 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it seems like he was operating under this 331 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: like false idea that like she would she would realize 332 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: that she wasn't gay, that she was by f Yeah, 333 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: which really sucks. 334 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: That does suck. 335 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they shouldn't have hooked up. That was a bad move. 336 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: Who initiated it? That's what I need to know. Who 337 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: was initiating this? But there is an update. 338 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: Was it a pity for or does she want it 339 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: just to say, hey, well my rodeo. 340 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: And then she's spent it with the girls who's like nah, 341 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: was like. 342 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Just like okay, we can check, we can check. Yeah. 343 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: Did you see my hand motions? 344 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 345 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: I didn't want any though. 346 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: Now. 347 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: One of the toughest parts of the situation was we 348 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: had just moved into a big new house with a 349 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: few roommates on March first. Neither of us could afford 350 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: to have her just move out right away. It would 351 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: have screwed ourselves and our roomies over financially. We live 352 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: in Vancouver and it's bloody expensive here. 353 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: Short story, Yeah, there was a kid that goes to 354 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: college in Vancouver. It's cheaper for him to fly back 355 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: and forth an hour or two away than to live 356 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: in Vancouver. 357 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard it's pretty expensive. 358 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: Twice a week he flies. 359 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: That's crazy. So we figured out a system of sharing 360 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: the room. There were even times when we would still 361 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: share the bed, but eventually became too painful. That would suck. Jesus, 362 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: they're just hurting themselves. So I renovated the large shed 363 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: in our backyard with a futon air conditioning and a 364 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: TV and basically lived in it all summer. She began 365 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: dating someone, so as time went on, she was gone 366 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: more and more until she had basically moved out, but 367 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: continued paying rent during these months. So many people close 368 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: to me went through tragedies too. Oh my god, this 369 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: guy can't catch a break. One of my closest friends 370 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: lost his mom to cancer. A good friend from high 371 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: school lost his wife to cancer too. I had known 372 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: her through work and gone to see them begin their relationship, 373 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: get married and have a beautiful daughter, only for it 374 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: to end so unbelievably tragically, and mere weeks before my 375 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: stepdad's passing, my stepsister's long term partner chose to end 376 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: his life. Oh. The amount of grief I felt for 377 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: myself and those close to me was unbearable, unfathomable, so 378 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: much loss in such a short period of time. Every 379 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: day for months I thought about ending it all, but 380 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: kept going, mostly because I couldn't do that to my parents. 381 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: It's so sad. 382 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: Oh. I have a meme about this. What it's a 383 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: good meaning? 384 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: Kay, the mood meter you have unpleasant and pleasant? Ali, 385 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: why access you have low energy? High energy and high 386 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 3: energy and very pleasant mood is let's go. But the 387 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: low energy and unpleasant mood, says mom, would be sad, 388 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: which I think is hilarious because this is so true. 389 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: High energy, unpleasant, Fuck we ball. Hell yeah, it's such 390 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: a good like vibe. Do you feel this way about that? 391 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 4: Um? 392 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: No? 393 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: Okay. 394 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: For all the bad that took place, there was actually 395 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: some good. Yay, please get better. I quit my toxic 396 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: but well paying job in May due to being so 397 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: overwhelmed and their lack of sympathy towards my situation, and 398 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: that led me to find an absolute dream job a 399 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: few months later. Now I work as the quality control 400 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: guy for a large music retailer's guitar department. I get 401 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: to play, test and fixed guitars every day, and it's 402 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: a dream come true. A few buddies and I entered 403 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: a radio contest last summer and actually won it. 404 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: What radio contest? 405 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, we improvised a thirty second commercial, submitted it, and 406 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: out of eighty plus entries, we won ten K and 407 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: a nationwide play. WHOA. My ex wife actually saw our 408 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: commercial play on the big screen before a movie once. 409 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: I started a stupid YouTube channel with a good friend 410 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: doing dumb reaction videos. It's not even remotely successful yet, 411 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: but it's a fun outlet. I can't imagine doing that. 412 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: The Christmas prior to my wife coming out, she'd bought 413 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: me the Blu ray box set of the entire Dragon 414 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: Ball Z series, and somehow we managed to watch it 415 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: all before, during, and after the split. Bob, I'm quite 416 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: proud of us for that. Ah, y'all are so interest 417 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: flying in each other's lives. 418 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: This is so hard, damn ye Okay, no morals in 419 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: this world? Yeah, best thing to do for both of them. Yeah, 420 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: I can't find a fuck money and they still stay together. 421 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: Well that's what she suggested, just like they on the 422 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: side and they stay together. 423 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: That's what she suggested. And he was like, I can't 424 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: do that, yeah, because I'm so in love with you. 425 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no morals. 426 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: And finally, last November, I met someone really special yay. 427 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: She was also out of a long term marriage and 428 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: they had split for pretty much the same reason. We've 429 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: been officially dating since New Year's Day. She's absolutely wonderful, beautiful, intelligent, successful, 430 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: and insanely talented artists. She's inspired me to start painting, 431 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: and I've inspired her to take up guitar. We've been 432 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: helping each other heal and enjoy life again. My ex 433 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: and I are on good terms. We still care about 434 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: one another and only want the best for each other. 435 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: She was there when we saw my stepdad for the 436 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: last time. She and my mom are still friendly, which 437 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: honestly makes me really happy. And she's officially moved out 438 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: on March first of this year. That's recent, Oh my god, 439 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: recent reason eighteen days Jesus. It's been a wild ride 440 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: from breaking down and bawling my eyes out ten times 441 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: a day to where I am now, with the best 442 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: job I've ever had and a fun, promising new relationship. 443 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: I truly didn't think i'd make it through, but I have. 444 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for reading, y'all. I'll include my original post in 445 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: the comment section. So sweet. I'm like, so sad, but like, 446 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad that they're still on friendly terms and stuff. 447 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be best. 448 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad that they decided again staying in 449 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: that relationship because even though they both cared about each other, 450 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: you just you can't be in a relationship where you 451 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: have like different levels of. 452 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: Dude, you can't be a relationship where you're not No, 453 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: that's incorrect. 454 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: No, you can't be in a relationship where you just 455 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: have different like pace. Yes, but also no hold on 456 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: filling in my I'll get there. You can't have a 457 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: different You can't have a relationship if you guys have 458 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: different ideas of what that relationship is is and different 459 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: amounts of or like types of love for each other. 460 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, word word. 461 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, if it was like you could continue like a 462 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: boltonic relationship and stuff, there's like qprs and stuff. But yeah, 463 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: this would just hurt both of you, I think in 464 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: the long run. So I'm glad that you figured out 465 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: a way to stay being friends and keep each other's 466 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: in your keep each other in your lives. 467 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: But you're able to get back out there find someone special. Yeah, 468 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: good for you. You deserve that. 469 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it could have happened if they 470 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: were trying to like keep up a marriage that wasn't 471 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: wasn't working. 472 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 473 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 3: Everyone deserves to be loved, even if they don't move 474 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: their car when you ask them to and they decide 475 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: to even go take a shower. 476 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: WHOA, that happened once one time. 477 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: Still petty, but I still deserve love. 478 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 3: Okay, but your story time. Theoretically, let's say you need 479 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 3: a new password and you got inspiration from someone's name 480 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: that you've recently have known as that password? 481 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: Is that pray? 482 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: Do you use it as a passport? No? Are you 483 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: telling them that passport? 484 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: No? 485 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: No, don't figure it out. One day they'll ask, oh, 486 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: what's the password, and I'll just be like, it's your name. 487 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 3: That would be kind of wild, but like it's like numbers. 488 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: I think it. 489 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: Someone did that for me and I thought it was 490 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: super cute, so. 491 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: I was, but I don't know how it reacts like 492 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: I'm you were like, hey, what's what's your pass And 493 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: I said, Sophia, no, no, but no, no no. 494 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: I said to you, my password is let me look 495 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: at it, look at it. Yeah, I said to you, 496 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: my password is seven four six seven four four two. 497 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: What Yeah? Because of the numbers. 498 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Oh oh that's fine. 499 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's that like where that it's happened like 500 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: in a month. Just get inspiration, because like, how would 501 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: she know that's true? 502 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: Will not know. 503 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: If you were like, my password is, you know, number number, 504 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: number number, I wouldn't be like, those are the numbers 505 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: of my name. 506 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: I would not. 507 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: Figure that out. 508 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: Okay, good numb. Anyways, anyways, would. 509 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: I be the a hole if I divorced my husband 510 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: because he's homophobic? Yeah? 511 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: What wait? I thought because he's a homosexual. 512 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: I also don't think they would be the a whole 513 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: if if he was gay and they divorced. I think 514 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: that was a wrong ad. 515 00:23:53,160 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: Both ways, you were not the a hole divorced that homophobe. 516 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 4: Man oh deleted says we have three kids and our 517 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 4: eldest is gay. I've always known our son was different. 518 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: I thought my husband knew too, because he and her 519 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: son were really close. Most of my friends have told 520 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 4: me that their children became a little bit distant when 521 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: they hit puberty, but not our son. 522 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: Just a few weeks ago, they were playing basketball and 523 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: playing chess basically every day and talking with each other NonStop. 524 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: Everything was great until my son came out to him. Ah, 525 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: this is sad because it seems like they had a 526 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: really good relationship and the father's kind of throwing it away. 527 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: But how did the father not know? 528 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it seems like the mom was like, it 529 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: was pretty obvious. I don't know, maybe he just wasn't 530 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: looking for it. She was like, oh, my son plays sports. 531 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: What's on place sports? But it doesn't matter that he 532 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: has ear rings. Yeah, my son place chess. It doesn't 533 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 3: matter that he could rock a crop top. 534 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 2: Let him be. 535 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: Let him rock at crop Mama, let him wrong, Itt, 536 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: it went very well when he came out to me, though. 537 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: My son thought his father would have the same reaction 538 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: and I thought the same. But after he came out 539 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: to him, my husband came back alone. I told him, 540 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: how did it go? He said, did you know? I 541 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: couldn't believe the look he gave me. He looked very 542 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: angry and just went to his office without saying anything. 543 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: You should have just said duh douy, how could you 544 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: do not know? 545 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? I called my son and he was crying and 546 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: started to apologize to me about everything. I was so 547 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: effing angry, but instead of yelling at my husband, I 548 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: just went to get him. When I found him, I 549 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: really felt like crying. His eyes were red and he 550 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: looked very sad. I've never seen him cry, so my 551 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: heart felt like it was being squeezed. He just said 552 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: he was sorry. I kept driving for a while and 553 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: then we went to eat pizza. 554 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: Aw, no pizza. 555 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: Oh. Now my kids and I are staying with my 556 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: father and I'm thinking I should get a divorce, but 557 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: it's not going to be easy at all. My son 558 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: is definitely going to blame himself for this. He already has, 559 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: and I've heard all sorts of horror stories about divorce. 560 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: My son told me we should go back and he 561 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: can stay with my father. But I'm really starting to 562 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: hate my husband for this. Why would he do this 563 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: to me? Even if I decided to stay with him, 564 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: I'm not sure our relationship is ever going to recover 565 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: from this. If he truly loved our son, why would 566 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: he react like that? Or did he react like that 567 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: because he loves him too much and created unrealistic expectations 568 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: of our son in his head. I was looking at 569 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: some subreddes here, and it seems these sort of things 570 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: end up ruining the whole family. So I'm very hesitant 571 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: to do something I might regret later. So a quick update. 572 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: My son just came. 573 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, let's talk. Yeah, talk. Dang, 574 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: that is tough. 575 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: On the divorce because if she does go with it, 576 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 3: he's gonna put that on his shoulders his whole life. 577 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 578 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's really tough for the son because like 579 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: this is supposed to be like a nice moment and 580 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: now his parents might get divorced because you know, like 581 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: not it's not because of him, but it would feel 582 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: like that. Mm hm, Like it's obviously because the dad 583 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: is being awful. Yeah, and the mom's like, oh, there's 584 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: a new side of you that I didn't realize and 585 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: it's only you know, it's just the the catalyst of 586 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: that thing. 587 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think the dad doesn't know like how 588 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: to process it? Though? 589 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: Probably this is probably just like you know, stunted, you know, 590 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: emotionally stunted man who out of view, like kind of 591 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: what Op was saying, had a view of what his 592 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: son would be like and then is forced to recognize 593 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: that that's not the case. But yeah, I don't think 594 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: that means that Op has to stay with him, especially 595 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: if those you know, that reaction makes her view of 596 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: her husband in a different light. 597 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm yeah yeah, and it's a pretty pretty tough light. 598 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 599 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 3: Well, because even if he didn't like agree with that 600 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: or anything, I feel like he could have handled it 601 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: way better. 602 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean he was Yeah. Oh there's more, there's more 603 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: where he's awful. So a quick update. My son just 604 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: told me that when they were in the car and 605 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: he came out to his father, his father yelled at 606 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: him that he regrets having him and that he's in 607 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: effing disappointment. Yeah. No, you can't say that to your child. 608 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: I just don't understand, because they had such a good relationship. 609 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: How can you, like, how can you how. 610 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: Can you hate someone just because they like the food? 611 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 3: What? 612 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: Okay really really put it concisely there? Yeah, yeah, let 613 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: him let him in less concise terms, How can you 614 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: hate your son who you've had a close relationship to 615 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: just because they love someone else like yeah, or someone 616 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: that you didn't expect them to love. 617 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: Does he have other siblings or was this his only kid? 618 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: No? 619 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: I think they have other siblings. 620 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: Okay, you can get. You can get if you want 621 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: grandchildren to Yeah, what what wass about? 622 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: And literally why why would he say that? Now, my 623 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: husband finally decided to call me and told me that 624 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: he loves us so much and he was just angry, 625 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: and apparently he tried to call my son to apologize 626 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: to him, but it's too late. My son doesn't want 627 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: to talk to him and just told me to take 628 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: his siblings and go back because he doesn't want his 629 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: father to be alone. I swear, I don't know what 630 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: we did to deserve him. He deserves a father that 631 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: respects him and cares about his safety. But not only 632 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: did he yell and say a bunch of stuff that 633 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: a child should never hear from their parent, he also 634 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: left him in a remote area without money. Oh that's 635 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 1: so true. I didn't I forgot about I didn't even 636 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: realize that's what he did. What if he was attacked 637 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: by someone or decided to end his life I'm so 638 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: conflicted right now. I know divorce is not the answer 639 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: because my son would never forgive himself, But at the 640 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: same time, I'm starting to see my husband differently. 641 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: Another update to another update. Yeah, that is wild, No, 642 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: very wild, horrible. 643 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: I did not realize that he just like left him 644 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: in a random place. 645 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: How old is this kid? Do mean. 646 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: Just the eldest I'm going to say eldest. I'm say like, 647 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: I want to say, probably fourteen or something, fourteen or something. 648 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am very disappointed with the dad. I'm so 649 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: he went if he does. 650 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: Disagree with this. Yeah, he should have handled this very differently. 651 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah you cannot. 652 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no you can't. You have to love your child. 653 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: You have to no matter what. And this reaction is 654 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: just horrible, horrible. Yeah, and it's like you can't be 655 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: like apologized after and be like, oh, I was just angry. No, 656 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: that's not like a response, it's not that is not 657 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: a response you can come back from. 658 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, someone has dealt with this for a very long 659 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: time and voices this. 660 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: And this is how you. 661 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: And that's how you react. 662 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: That's the first Yeah, come on, ikes, dude, it would 663 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: be a very heartfelt conversation, and you'd have to be very, 664 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: very sorry. 665 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he would have to say, I don't like 666 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: I was dealing with some stuff, and yeah, come from 667 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: a place of love and looking for or just looking 668 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: to to learn. I suppose my husband told me the 669 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: reason he was so angry is because no straight man 670 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: wants his son to be gay, especially because they were 671 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: very close. He said he doesn't hate gay people, he 672 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: just doesn't want his son to be LGBT, but that 673 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: it's his problem to solve, and he wants us back 674 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: and wants to come over and talk to our son. 675 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: The only reason I'm deciding to stay is because my 676 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: son loves him so much and I want to respect 677 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: what he wants. A divorce is going to be too 678 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: messy and traumatize him and our other kids forever. Yesterday 679 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: he was begging me to just go back, and was 680 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: constantly apologizing and saying how sorry he is. He didn't 681 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: do anything wrong. His father is just an idiot. Oh, 682 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: the son was apologizing. 683 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: That's so. 684 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how we ended up here. I thought 685 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: my husband loved our kids just as much as I do. 686 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean, our son is just gay. I can't imagine 687 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: what he'd do if he was trans Anyways, many people 688 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: have messaged me, and I want to say thank you 689 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: all for your advice. My husband did show me he cares, 690 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: even cried and said how sorry he is for how 691 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: he reacted. I know he's still homophobic to our son, 692 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: but at least he feels guilty and wants to alogized him. 693 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: But the damage is done and what he said to 694 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: her son was too cruel. If he ever says something 695 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: like that again, I'll probably do way more than divorce him. 696 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: I Yeah, I don't know if this isn't something he 697 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: can come back from. If these I do think he 698 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 3: could come back from this. 699 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: I think he could come back from it in terms 700 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: of his relationship with his son, if he was truly 701 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: sorry and he was truly ready to learn and move 702 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: past his you know, bigoted ideas. I think he could 703 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: come back from it. But I understand Oh he say 704 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: he can't come back from it in terms of the relationship. 705 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: Maybe MM, because I think that's different when you when 706 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: a romantic partner, you know, shows a different side of 707 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: themselves and you're and you're just got shock of that. 708 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to be putting the doghouse for a while. 709 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: I think if he did a complete one eighty, he 710 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: could yeah from it, Like. 711 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: If he did a complete and was like, oh my god, 712 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: what have I done? 713 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: Too? 714 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 3: Heartfelt crying sessions with both his son and his wife, 715 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: and then he goes out and he plays basketball with 716 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: his kid and he's. 717 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: Like, I still love you. 718 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: I love you no matter what, even if you like 719 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: basketball and boys and boys and balls, I'll still love 720 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: you for who you are. And he goes to wife 721 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: and was like, hey, I talked pretty whack talking to 722 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: my son. 723 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: We're good. I'm sorry. That devil's a lot right there. 724 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, if he did that, if he completely went aid, 725 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: that would be grounds for you know, he was coming 726 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: back from it. But as of right now, I don't 727 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: think he has come back from it. 728 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: No, mmm mmmm mmm mm hmmmm. 729 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: But that is the end of that sad saga. 730 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: Still more stories of people coming out of the closet. 731 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the theme of today, and they're all seemingly 732 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: kind of sad. 733 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry for these sad stories.