1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: A win is a win, no matter how it looks. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to a victory Monday burg Gang, the first of 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: many this season. Hopefully got palc calvc with me. Yes, 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: he survived Bourbon Street. More importantly, the Cardinals survived New Orleans. 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine, 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Food to Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast Visit Azycardinals 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 3: He's it again, so more hurry magic. 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: Whow Here's craigcriolud. 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: So going to rename this segment or mondays this season? 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: Here on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proud partner 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals Covered two with a couple 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: of other guys. Not sure if you heard this this morning, Paul, 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: but our new colleague, Aq Shipley apparently has a regular 20 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: appearance on Bickley and Marada. Arizona Sports ninety eight SEVENFM, 21 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: the flagship station okay, and they asked how it went, 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, first regular season game and working with Dave Pash, 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: who AQ calls a legend, and then reference that it 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: was the first time working together because he was with 25 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: a couple of other guys during the preseason before reaching Hash. 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: And I'm listening to this and I was like, wait 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: a second. We got praised by AQ during the pregame 28 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: huddle before the game on Sunday, and now all of 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, we get thrown under the bus by AQ. 30 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: Well, remember, Craig, it can always get worse, and it 31 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: just did. And you know, it's fitting. Graduates to the 32 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: big time the regular season booth with Mistern Network play 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: by play guy Dave Pash, and then all of a sudden, 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: he fits forgets about the quote other guys, the little 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: guys out there. So yeah, funny how that works. He 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: graduated from the preseason crew, the preseason play by play guys, 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, he's big time and there 38 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: he is enjoying the halftime spread while the two of 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: us were just grinding the entirety of the game from 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: pregame to post game. 41 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I had to do halftime because apparently it 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: was too loud for you to hear anything on the field. 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Based off of what was what a hip hop performance, 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: a rap performance, I'm not quite sure. 45 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the last guy qualified a comment exactly who 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: was performing, But I will say it was loud. It 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: was metrodome loud. Just to even further date myself, it 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: was really loud. Now, I didn't make that call. I'm 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: gonna persevere. I'm gonna broadcast through anything, Craig, but you 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: know power is higher than yours, truly said, you know what, 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: We're gonna outsource this. And so I went to go 52 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: chase down Jonathan Gann and only to realize is way 53 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: all the way to the back of the Cardinals locker room. 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: No get out of here, CALVC because it's an on 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: field interview on camera, So then had to come all 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: the way back out. And speaking of being loud, I 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: couldn't even hear what he said at halftime. I had 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: to get a translation from the camera people as to 59 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: what he said because it was so stinking loud. And 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, these are some of the champagne 61 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: problems of your friendly neighborhood radio sideline reporter. When the 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: entire viewing audience earned what he said, but I didn't. 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: And I'm standing right there because you know they got 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: the volume turned up to eleven. 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: Well, you played it off very well because I didn't know, 66 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: and I basically went verbatim your halftime report before the 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: start of the third quarter. Hey, this is what Jonathan 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: Gannon had to say. Cardinals, by the way, in case 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: you did not know, they did win Week one in 70 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: New Orleans twenty to thirteen. Paul survived Bourbon Street, which 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: is good to know. And Cardinals survived. And I think 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: that's an apt term survive based on how that game ended. 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: And let's start there, because it was maybe a little 74 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: bit more difficult than it should have been. But Week one, 75 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: I think tends to be that for a lot of teams, 76 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: and the fact that the Cardinals were not able to 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: make it a two touchdown lead late in the game 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: and gave the Saints a little bit of an opening. 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: Spencer Raller went through that opening and darn Near had 80 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: the game tying touchdown, perhaps maybe game winning touchdown if 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: you go for two in that situation. But the final 82 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: not the final play, the second to last play, the 83 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: pass attempt to Juwan Johnson where it was the high 84 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: low Jalen Thompson goes low actually got a hand on 85 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: that football, but Jawan was not letting it go if 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: it were not for Buddhabaker to come in with the 87 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: shoulder and jaw that ball loose before Jawan hit the 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: ground incomplete and then on the next play throws it 89 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: out of bounds. But yeah, survival, survive in advance. 90 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's amazing too. The detail you just provided 91 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: was a complete unknown to even the players themselves. After 92 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: the game, even the head coach asked us in the 93 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: postgame radio interview, Okay, exactly how did that happen? We 94 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: all saw was Jaalen and Buddha combining, But who actually 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: got a hit on the football? Did they get a 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: hit on the football? Was just jarring the player, which 97 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: jarred the football loose and he didn't survive the ground 98 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: with a catch because he did have it for a 99 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: hot moment. And yeah, let's just say there was a 100 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: collective exhale after everyone saw the football on the ground 101 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: and it was ruled incomplete because he was a dude, 102 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: Juwan Johnson, And to go up there in the middle 103 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: of a cardinal secondary there's nobody matching his size as 104 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: his Buddha set after the game, and that was that 105 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: was a moment. But you know what, Craig, the Cardinals 106 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: finished and if there's one takeaway, they did what the 107 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: Bills did in that Sunday epic Sunday night game. You 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: gotta find a way. The good teams find a way. Well, 109 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: what did Patrick Mahomes do until the opener in Brazil? 110 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: He was seventeen in zero in his last seventeen to 111 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: one possession games. The good teams find a way to win. 112 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 3: And I went around the locker room late last week 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: and I could spend a whole half hour on this, 114 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: but I basically pose the following question a lot of guys. 115 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: I'm not naming names. I'm just gonna give you a 116 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: variety answers from a variety of players, And it was, Okay, 117 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: what do you know about this team this year that 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: the rest of the league is about to find out? 119 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: The rest of us are about to find out? And 120 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: probably the most the most often given answer was we're 121 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: equipped to finish. Believe it or not. 122 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: They used that word. 123 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 3: They said, you know what, last couple of years teams 124 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: knew they were in a game, We're physical, we compete. 125 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: This year, this locker room believes we can finish, we 126 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: can win, not just be in the game, win the game. 127 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: And I think that might be the biggest takeaway of 128 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: Week one because how many times did this team a 129 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: year ago not finish and lose those one score games. Now, 130 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: I think many of us would have preferred the offense 131 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: to finish that game, taking over with two thirty five 132 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: to go and run out the clock. I think, big picture, 133 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: that's what we all anticipated. But you go three and out. Okay, 134 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: we didn't get the job done. You could tell watching 135 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: the broadcast, the television broadcast, and as the Saints are 136 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: driving down the field, there was a cutaway at Kyler 137 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Murray and he was did not look like he was 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback of a team in the league. He was 139 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: sitting and just kind of staring off into space because 140 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: in his mind, the offense needs to be on the 141 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: field and walk off with a victory. Yet now all 142 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's given the Saints another opportunity. Fortunately 143 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: for everyone, to your point, the defense did finish and 144 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are one and oh for the first time 145 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: under head coach Jonathan Gannon and one and oh for 146 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: the first time since twenty twenty one. So that's the 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: value of what we saw on Sunday. And as we 148 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: always say, much easier and better to clean up after 149 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: a win, no matter how it looks, than after a loss. 150 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: And you know what to continue on the final play, 151 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: the fact that it was made by Buddha, Baker and 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson. Part of what I think is going to 153 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: become a signature aspect of this defense is that dime 154 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: package with essentially four safeties because they sort of use 155 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: Garrett Williams as a hybrid nickel slash safety. And if 156 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 3: you look, you know a year ago was Buddha and 157 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: JT and Garrett Williams. Now you've added rabbit to the mix. 158 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: It's almost like a diamond. Look there's those there. Instead 159 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: of three in a triangle, it's the diamond with the 160 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 3: four guys. And just like last year, is Buddha cuming, 161 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: is he dropping? Is Buddha in coverage? What's going on? 162 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: Same with Jalen Thompson. And they're all interchangeable. They can hit, 163 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: they can cover sideline to sideline, they can man up 164 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: in the box, in the slot, be physical in traffic. 165 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: You can position them anywhere and everywhere, and I just 166 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 3: think as this season evolves, the Cardinals are gonna use 167 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: that more and more to their advantage. And there's a 168 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 3: reason that Kellen Moore early in the game said, you 169 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: know what, We've got a guy making his seventh career start, 170 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: fifth round pick a year ago. He's gonna have a 171 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: real hard time diagnosing and reading this defense and getting 172 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: the ball out. So we're gonna go quick game and 173 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: it's gonna be one read in the balls out. And 174 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: there's a reason he went that direction. 175 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: To that point. Looking at some of the next Gen numbers, 176 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler was getting out the football in two point 177 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: five seconds. It was the fifth quickest among quarterbacks heading 178 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: into Monday Night football, So that ball was coming out. 179 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals were able to get some pressure, but not get 180 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: home a ton, but they were affecting the quarterback. Again, 181 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: looking at some of those next Gen numbers, almost twenty 182 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: nine percent of those dropbacks that was pressure, which is 183 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: a much larger number than we saw at any point 184 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: it last season. So yes, there was some ANNGST when 185 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: you only have the one sack, and that was Baron Browning. 186 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Josh Wett doesn't get home, but there was a lot 187 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: of activity in the backfield, and then again Spencer Ratler 188 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: gets that ball before you're able to get home. So 189 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: I do think credit Spencer Rattler for playing a much 190 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: better game than many people anticipated going into that contest. 191 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: And credit to Kellen Moore and Spencer Ratler for running 192 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: the up tempo at the end of the game and 193 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: keeping that defensive front out on the field. It's week one. 194 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: Those guys hadn't played a lot of snaps in the preseason. 195 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: There's no way to truly replicate game conditioning, and so 196 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: at the very end, you know, it really did come 197 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: down to the Cardinals secondary because you weren't getting home 198 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 3: for a variety of reasons, including one of the ball's 199 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: coming out quick. They're going up tempo too. The Cardinals 200 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: couldn't sub they couldn't get fresh legs out there. So 201 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,239 Speaker 3: that's what had me a little concerned on the sideline 202 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: was Okay, wait a minute, they're not really affecting the 203 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: quarterback late in the game for the variety of reasons 204 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: I just just detailed. So you got to figure out 205 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 3: a way to cover, and you know, between Chris Lave 206 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 3: and Rashid Shiheed, which, by the way, can I just 207 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: say on the Will Johnson front, I know you're probably 208 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: gonna bring up Will Johnson. Those weren't plays made it 209 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: just against anyone. I mean, Rashid Shihead is a four 210 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: to three dude. I mean he can really fly. And 211 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: Will Johnson was ahead of him on that interception that 212 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: got wiped out. He was stepped for step with him 213 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: in the end zone making that play and getting his 214 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: hand up there. To me, it just made it all 215 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: that much more impressive. The rookiees' debut. 216 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Will Johnson and we'll get into the offense, 217 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: but we started with the defense because they won the game. 218 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: They were the last unit on the football field. So 219 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: let's touch on what I think was the biggest not 220 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: biggest surprise, that's the wrong phrasing, but the concern of 221 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: the questions we had about the young cornerbacks and seeing 222 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: and hearing Will Johnson personal foul penalty or flag on 223 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: zero and the number of times in which he was 224 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: a little handsy and okay, now that's preseason versus regular season, 225 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: and very early in that game, Will Johnson was targeted, 226 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: had a pass defense and he finishes with three should 227 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: have had an interception. He ran that route better than 228 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: the receiver. He was in better position for that football. 229 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: And then away from the play, twenty five yards away 230 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: from the play, Max Mountain gets called for a legal contact. 231 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: Now I went back this morning to watch and okay, 232 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: certainly Tiki tak by the letter of the law. Though 233 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: you put your hand on the waist of a receiver 234 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: and kind of turn that receiver a little bit, or 235 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: the perception of the official that's nearby sees kind of 236 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: that arm moving backwards, that's an automatic flag because now 237 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: you're impeding the receiver and getting in the way of 238 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: his route running. So that's why the flag was thrown again, 239 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: negated the first ever interception. But Will's gonna get his 240 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: hands on more footballs than just what we saw on Sunday. 241 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 3: And as he looked regular season ready, I said to myself, 242 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 3: you know what, I think there's a correlation of cause 243 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 3: and effect with him getting more preseason reps than rookies 244 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: had the last couple of years. You know what would 245 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison junior rep looked like if he got a 246 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: lot more reps last preseason? He took him a few 247 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: games obviously, even though he had the big breakout game 248 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: against the Rams in Week two a year ago, but 249 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: that was really based more on how the Rams decided 250 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: to defend Marvin Harrison Junior and who was on him. 251 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, Will give paid off the strategy in the 252 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: preseason and john Andangannon was pretty forthright with the media. 253 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give the rookies more game reps this year, 254 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna pay off. And it did 255 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: in my opinion. I'm Will Johnson. He learned in the 256 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: preseason what you can and cannot get away with, and 257 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: it didn't cost the Cardinals in the regular season. So 258 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: to me, that's some shrewd coaching and I think it 259 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: was really beneficial in that way. And I tell you 260 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: Will Jones and then the big hit he had on 261 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: Chris Alave. I mean the size, this speed, the coverability, 262 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: if that's even a word, and then and then to 263 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: bring the boom, Wow, it's you know what, he only 264 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: played what between fifty and sixty percent of the snaps. 265 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm guessing that might go up in Week two. I 266 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: know they run. Look, Garrett Williams is a fine cover 267 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: corner himself, and Max Melton, I think acquitted himself. But 268 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: if he's a star, Will Johnson, you're gonna have to 269 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: find a way to get him out on that field. 270 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Targeted six times, allowed just three catches for twenty six yards. 271 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: But you brought it up the open field tackle slash 272 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: hit on Chris Olave for rookie and making his NFL debut, 273 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: because sir, certainly he's used to big time plays and 274 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: big time moments and making those big hits. But in 275 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: the NFL, they take those hits, they look at those 276 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: a little bit closely, and to make sure it was 277 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: a clean hit. You didn't target the head above the 278 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: neck area, and you read it perfectly to where the 279 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: ball was right there when the receiver meets the ball. 280 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: And I was reading some of the postgame comments. Spencer 281 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Ratler went to Chris a lobby afterwards and says, hey, look, 282 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't I mean the held you up, hold you 283 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: up to dry that there? I mean that was just 284 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: a bang bang play that I think will read as 285 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: opposed to, Hey, this is a receiver out in the 286 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: open and it's not defenseless, but just kind of like 287 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: hung them out to dry a little bit. And I 288 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: don't think that was the case at all. 289 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: So as physical as that play was, what if we 290 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: said that play was made with the mind of Will Johnson. 291 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: Buddha Baker said after the game at his locker that 292 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: Nick Ross had given the outside corners the green light 293 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: that if they're going to throw one of those bubble screens, 294 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: go attack it. Don't worry about anything behind you. Just 295 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: play aggressively, go forward, seek and destroy. And buddhas said, 296 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: credit to the rookie for remembering that the recognition the 297 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: play recognition that all here's that bubble screen. Coach Shraw 298 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: has talked about here I go and I'm just gonna 299 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: you know, I'm going full speed on hundred miles an 300 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: hour and we'll see what happens. And then to have 301 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: the wherewithal as he said to Okay, big hit, don't 302 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: flex it, oh yeah, you know, don't don't incite, don't 303 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: step over an unnecessary roughness of any sort. Just play 304 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: a good, clean football form tackle technique. Don't get nasty 305 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: with it or trying to and because half the time 306 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: that'll draw a flag. Too official will just say, oh, 307 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: you hit him too hard and you enjoyed it too much. 308 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: Here's the flag. And so for all that, he very 309 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: precocious on the part of Will Johnson, right, I mean, 310 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: beyond his years as a rookie. 311 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: And it was passion on the broadcast who mentioned almost 312 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: immediately Michigan versus Ohio State on that hit. 313 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: By the way, I talked to Will Johnson late last 314 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: week and I just said, you know, Drew Stanton on 315 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: these very airways brought something up early in the offseason, 316 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: well right after the draft, and said, something that's going 317 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: to benefit the rookie is that he played for two 318 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: NFL defensive coordinators in Michigan, Wink Martindale and Jesse Minter. 319 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: And Will agreed with that. I asked him, He said absolutely. 320 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: He said jesse Minter really ran some complex stuff, and 321 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: he said it did equip him because remember what Max 322 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: Melton said a few months ago, or maybe it was 323 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: early in camp. He said, hey, Will Johnson's ahead of 324 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: where I was as a rookie mentally. And I think 325 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: a lot of it has to do with just the scheme. 326 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: Those NFL defensive coordinators at Michigan were running in a 327 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: very similar playbook to what you would encounter in the NFL. 328 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: Thirteen points allowed by the defense. Just the one touchdown 329 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: early in the second quarter, the Alvin Kamara eighteen yard 330 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: touchdown run. And by the way, after that touchdown run, 331 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: you did not hear Kamara's name much, if at all. 332 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: Thirty eight rushing yards in the first half on five carries, 333 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: seven rushing yards on six carries in the second half. 334 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: I know you asked JG about that, and part of 335 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: it was probably time and score. In the second half, 336 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: you're throwing the ball more. But you took away number 337 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: one offensive threat in the run game and in the 338 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: pass game, and that is what you hear a lot, 339 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, We're going to take away your number one guy, 340 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: beat us with someone else. Saints almost did, but it's 341 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: not going to be Alvin Kamara that gets the Saints 342 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: to the victory. 343 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you asked me my number one dislike in 344 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: the game, it would probably be tackling. You know, I 345 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: didn't think tackling was an issue in the preseason, but 346 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: it's a lot different when it's the regular season and 347 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: it's four quarters and you have to get Alvin Kamar 348 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: to the ground, not a four string running back who's 349 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: not going to make the final fifty three. So the tackling, 350 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: especially in that first half, was lacking and slacking a 351 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: little bit. They tighten that up and yeah, they have 352 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: six carries after halftime for a total of seven yards. 353 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: Of my math is correct, he was a non factor, 354 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: non factor in that second half. 355 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Cardinals get the job done in New Orleans twenty 356 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: to thirteen. Let's switch it over and talk about the offense. 357 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: And as I mentioned on Cardinal Talk with Rob Frederickson, 358 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a clunky starts offensively 359 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: those first two drives. The second one ended with a 360 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: field goal, but it was an eleven play forty two 361 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: yard drive. I mean, you run eleven plays, you would 362 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: expect to get to the end zone or at least 363 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: have a field goal that was twenty yards or less. 364 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: But it just did not look great playing behind the 365 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: sticks off schedule. And then in that second quarter, trailing 366 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: seven to three, come out with back to back drives 367 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: in which Marvin Harrison Junior scores a touchdown James Connor 368 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: on the receiving end of a Kyler Murray touchdown toss. 369 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: So much better in the second quarter. Now, if you 370 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: could see more of the second quarter in the third 371 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: and fourth, this would not have been as close or 372 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: edge of the seats near the end of the game, 373 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: but it would took a little while for that offense 374 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: to get going on Sunday. 375 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brendon Staley is known for a lot of disguises 376 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: and showing unconventional looks, and there are a few guys 377 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: in the Cardinals locker room who had played for him before, 378 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: and so you know, he said, look, his calling card 379 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: is the offense gets the line of scrimmage and you 380 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: sort of look out there like, wh what the heck 381 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: is this? 382 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: And so there are a lot. 383 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: Of different looks they're going to try and confuse you, 384 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: especially in week one, but the remedy against that is 385 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: to try and utilize your weapons. And so when you're 386 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: using James Connor and you're using Trey Benson, and then 387 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: obviously Marvin and Trey McBride and the Cardinals had some 388 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: key third down conversions. There was a third and ten, 389 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: a third and twelve, a third and eleven that they 390 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: were able to turn and at least sustain those drives. 391 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: And the shovel pass call was excellent obviously at the 392 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 3: goal line. Shades of fits in the Green Bay playoff game, 393 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: and you know there was a lot of really good 394 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: stuff once they got in sync a little bit, But yeah, 395 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: to start the game, it definitely looked like okay, first 396 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: quarter of Week one, and there were some growing pains offensively. 397 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: Maybe the fourth preseason game, as you like to say, September, 398 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: is an extension of the preseason. At least that first 399 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: quarter was first fifteen offensive plays forty one total yards. 400 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: Cardinals finished with one hundred and sixty five yards on 401 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: thirty two plays in that first half alone, So again, 402 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of feeling out process. We got 403 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: the news early Sunday morning. Maybe Kyler was hanging out 404 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: with Paul on Bourbon Street the night before quarterbacks not 405 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: feeling well. Will postgame, Kyler said, I wasn't going to 406 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: miss this game. So but you do show up on 407 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: the injury report and all of a sudden, Okay, there's 408 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a concern, and maybe the slow 409 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: start had a factor in that. But overall, Kyler efficient 410 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: twenty one of twenty nine, one hundred and sixty three yards, 411 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, ran the ball seven times thirty 412 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: eight yards. Maybe you want a higher yardage total with 413 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: those twenty one completions. But for a first game, we 414 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: saw the chunk throws, we saw the connection with Marvin 415 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior. That's got to be the number one takeaway 416 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: from the offensive side was number one, number eighteen on 417 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: the same page, better than they looked outside of maybe 418 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: the Rams game last season and in Miami last season. 419 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: First off Saturday night in New Orleans, I had the 420 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: shrimp creole, this seafood gumbo and the jumbal eye. I 421 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: made my own combo plate, and uh, perfectly fine. 422 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: I was good to go. Are you now on the road? 423 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: Are you eating for two? Because Wolf is no longer 424 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: with you? Did you lose your your your your food 425 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: companion on the road? 426 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: A lot of times I could sort of bury my 427 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 3: order within Wolf's and he wouldn't know, you know, he 428 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: just he didn't even know when the check came. It 429 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: just sort of So there's that. I don't I don't 430 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 3: know what happened with Kyler exactly. I don't need or 431 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 3: want any more details. 432 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: We're good with that. 433 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 3: But yes, the connection, considering we all know the stat 434 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: everybody now last season, the completion percentage trade between Kyler 435 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 3: and Marvin Harrison Junior was the lowest of any quarterback 436 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: receiver combo with a minimum of seventy five targets in 437 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: the league, it was fifty three percent to see them 438 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: out there five of six. Yes, you wanted the one 439 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: from his own end zone that was deep down the middle. 440 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: It could have been a ninety seven yard There's no 441 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: doubt about that. But the fact that the chemistry was 442 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: there and the connection was there, the confidence I think 443 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: is there with Marvin Harrison Junior, unlike a year ago. 444 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: You're Kyler talk about that and you know, just the 445 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 3: ability to go through and have a legit wide receiver one. 446 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: Let's just hit zoom out and keep it real simple. 447 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: Why did the Arizona Cardinals draft Marvin Rrison Junior number 448 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: four overall? Because they wanted wide receiver one? And we 449 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 3: couldn't say that often enough last year. You could say 450 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: that in game one, if they have wide receiver one, 451 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: a legit at that position on the depth chart, what 452 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: does that do for the offense? And you saw what 453 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: it did for the offense. Now is it gonna get better? 454 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: Should it get better? Yes? Kyler said that repeatedly after 455 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: the game, quoting him. But you saw opportunities, legit opportunities. 456 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: You didn't see a whole bunch of last year. A 457 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: lot of times it was more like, Okay, that ball 458 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: is being forced. Isaiah wolf Fork, the quarterbacks coach, said, 459 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 3: you know, I think they felt some of the pressure 460 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: last year in hindsight to really get that connection going. 461 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: It maybe wasn't as organic as it could have been. 462 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: To me, it felt natural and organic and and you 463 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: know what, it was Marvin winning and getting separation and 464 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: getting the target from Kyler. 465 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: You have a number one wide receiver and you have 466 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: maybe the number one tight end in the league. That 467 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: is your offense as far as the passing game is concerned. Now, 468 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: what you would have hoped to have seen on Sunday 469 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: was the number of times that Marvin and Trey were 470 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: targeted that that would have opened up the run game 471 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. It did not. I mean, outside of 472 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: the Trey Benson run, there just didn't seem to be 473 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: much movement with for either Benson or James Connor. And 474 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: it was funny mentioning earlier you're transcribing the Jonathan Gannon 475 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: halftime interview and getting the you know, the notes of it, 476 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: and hey, I want to see a little bit more 477 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: north south action as opposed to trying the edges, and 478 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: then what do we see early in the third quarter, 479 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: it was, oh, there goes Trey Benson for a fifty 480 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: two yard run. Is like, okay, well, so much for 481 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: the north south approach. But hey, if he believes in 482 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: I know he was a postgame guest on Cardinal The 483 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals Locker Room Show. He has belief in his speed, 484 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: believes he's a lot quicker than many people think he is. 485 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: But I just don't know how many more times he's 486 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: going to be able to hit that edge, turn the 487 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: corner as opposed to just put your foot down to 488 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: the ground and go straight ahead. 489 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: And it's funny because he also said in an interview 490 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: that early in the game he thought he missed a 491 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: couple opportunities to go north and so, but to your point, 492 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: moments after John and again has said he wanted more 493 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 3: nor south, straight ahead run game, there's Trey Benson running 494 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: to the edge and it was almost the you know, 495 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: it's almost like the the NBA quivalent of no, no, no, 496 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 3: don't take that massive three pointer. And then when it 497 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 3: goes in, yes, yes, yes, And when we asked him 498 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: about it after the game, he was almost incredulous that 499 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: I would even question whether that was even a smart 500 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 3: move to go he and his response was no, that 501 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: play was hitting in practice this all week long. Okay, 502 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 3: interesting and Johnath again it's TV show this week. I'm 503 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: gonna ask him, does a play need to work in 504 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: practice to make the game day play sheet? Do you 505 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 3: think that's a good question. I'm gonna ask it. Do 506 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 3: you need to actually see it work and succeed in 507 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 3: practice before you have the nerve to call it in 508 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: a game? 509 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: Maybe not be successful, but did it look Hey, okay, 510 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: it didn't quite hit. But if now you get this 511 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: block and your technique is a little bit better or 512 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: you're quicker to the edge or whatever specifics, if it 513 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: was designed well just not executed, well, I think that 514 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: again it goes. It comes down to say, Okay, was 515 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: the play call a good one or was the execution 516 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: make the play call a good one. It's like, how 517 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: do you oh, that didn't play didn't work? Well? Yeah 518 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: it did, It just wasn't blocked very well. And then 519 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: vice versa, it happens the opposite as well. 520 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I want you guys to tell me he was 521 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 3: tackle and you heard him lament the run. He thought 522 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: he should have finished the run. We're talking about Trey Benson, 523 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: who famously now told you and Danny Sireka after he 524 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: was drafted he was mad about his four three nine 525 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: forty at the combine. He thought he should have been 526 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: much closer to four to three. Even do you know 527 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: the dude that ran him down that might be a 528 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: little strong. The guy who tackled him is Carl Granerson. 529 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: He wears ninety six sixt' five two sixty one, and 530 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: he's the one who made the tackle. So later I realized, Yeah, 531 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: that's what Trey Benson was talking about, because on the sideline, 532 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, there was someone next to me. I didn't 533 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: even know what it was. He didn't know who I was. 534 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 3: I was just wait a minute. Did ninety six mate 535 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 3: the tackle fifty yards down the field on Trey Benson. Really, 536 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: it reminded me of the who was the fifth round 537 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: guy who was taken after John Brown, who was the burner, 538 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: the four two eight guy in the Bruce arians era. 539 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: He never really materialized as legitimate, but he's a four 540 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: to eight guy. And there was a Thursday night game 541 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: against the Bengals, and I can remember everything except the 542 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: guy's name, and he caught a ball in the flat. 543 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: He had one dude to beat. It was a defensive lineman. 544 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 3: He couldn't turn the corner and that guy tackled him. 545 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: And the whole next week Larry Fitzgerald gave that receiver, He's. 546 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: Like, you run a four to eight. You didn't a 547 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: JJ Nelson. 548 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: Yes, he goes, you didn't beat the three hundred and 549 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: fifteen pound defensive tackle to the edge. And it was 550 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 3: sort of a mind blow in the moment. And to 551 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: see ninety six make that tackle on Trey Benson, that's 552 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 3: how you know it's the NFL. 553 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's the one of the big adjustments 554 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: that players coming from college to the NFL understand or 555 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: takes a little while to understand, because everything is operating 556 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: so much quicker. And in college, you are the fastest 557 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: guy on the field and you can get to the 558 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: edge no problem, turn the corner and head up field. 559 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: You can't in the NFL, even if you are six', 560 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: five three hundred and twenty. Pounds they just it's not 561 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: so much they move, quicker the angles are much. Better 562 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: it's the, technique AND i KNOW i can get to 563 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: point be quicker than you can Because i'm going to 564 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: go this. Way and THAT'S i think a lesson that 565 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot of young players. Learn and to your, point 566 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: as far as jg at, Halftime, hey we need to 567 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: go north and. South stop trying to think you can 568 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: reach the. Edge, hey it's something THAT i Think Kyler 569 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: murray still deals with to this. Day on that third down, 570 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: sack you're, backpedaling you try to outrun these defensive. Linemen 571 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: you can't do. It i'm. SORRY i don't care how 572 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: fast you think you are or you, are it's just 573 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: impossible to do in THE. 574 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: Nfl and when there's a corner blitz a couple of 575 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: Times number one came, In, yeah you're. Cooked it's just 576 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: it's THE. Nfl they're two athletic at the same, time 577 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: it's not a hot take to Say Trade benson is 578 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: going to finish off a chunk run this year for 579 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: a big, Touchdown bird big. Touchdown and that is the 580 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: difference between him And James, connor That Trey benson has 581 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: that finishing speed to take it sixty seventy even eighty 582 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: yards if he gets in the, clear AND i think 583 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: we're all waiting to see it AND i think it's 584 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 3: a matter of. Time we will see it this. Season 585 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: he is gonna rip off a fifty plus yard touch, 586 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: now not just a chunk, run but a chunk touchdown 587 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: run before we. 588 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: TOUCH i brought up the. SACKS i do want to 589 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: discuss that. Briefly but AS i look at the number 590 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: of targets and the target, Distribution i'm okay with. This 591 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: i'll just ask you if you're okay with, This, Paul 592 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: but you look At trey McBride And Marvin. Harrison fifteen 593 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: of the twenty nine targets go to, Them James connor 594 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: targeted four, Times Michael wilson targeted four, times and then 595 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: everyone else got a. Targets Elijah higgins got. Too i'm 596 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: okay with that BECAUSE i understand that this offense is 597 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: run first with tight. Ends, heck we saw fourteen personnel 598 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: on one particular Playoff Travis vocalek. Active they had all 599 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: four tight ends active On, sunday so it's run. First 600 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: we got a tight, End we got a number one wide. 601 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: Receiver we Got James, Connor Tray. Benson WE i know 602 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: it was an offseason talking point about a third. Receiver 603 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: we got a call On cardinal talk about. IT i 604 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: just don't think there's room within this offense right now 605 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: someone's going to get more than the nine targets That 606 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: marvin god are the six That trey, Got AND i 607 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: don't think there's much more than four or five for 608 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: that third wide. 609 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: Receiver, well, now when you say third wide, receiver you're 610 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: considering the pass Catcher Trainer bright as the second, option 611 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: first or second. Option, okay because right Now i'd say 612 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: it's wide receiver too by. Committee AND i still Think 613 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: john And again And Drew petsing are waiting for someone 614 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: to make up their mind for. Them Isn't Zay jones 615 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: is At Michael? Wilson is A Greg dorsch who's gonna 616 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: be that guy who's gonna be wide receiver? Two and 617 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: then we can debate and argue do they need a, 618 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: definitive decisive wide receiver two in this? Offense if you 619 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: have a one two punch of running back and you 620 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: Saw Trey benson out there a lot more on third 621 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: down and he can catch the ball just like A 622 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: mario De mercato can as, Well so there's another. Outlet 623 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: Tip ryman gotta. Catch Elijah higgins got to catch. You 624 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: you're in twelve and thirteen personnel a. Lot do you 625 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: even really need a wide receiver? Too the offseason would say, 626 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: no they didn't go, out they didn't, draft you, know 627 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: a receiver to fill that. Role they didn't sign a 628 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: receiver to fill that. ROLE i still believe they Think 629 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: Zay jones has. Upside Michael wilson still. Developing we Know 630 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: greg door or she, believes you, know he can be 631 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: that guy. Easily SO i think that's an intriguing storyline going. 632 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: Forward is that the way it's always going to be 633 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: wide receiver by committee or will someone kind of sees that? 634 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: Role and if you are wide receiver, too even wide receiver, 635 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: three you have to be able to. Block you have 636 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: to be an impact player in that run game and 637 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: extension of the run. Game otherwise there's just not room 638 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: on this roster for, you especially on game. Day, now 639 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: as far as the offensive line is, concerned, Yes kyler 640 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: was sacked five, times five times too many if you asked, 641 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Me but one was out of, bounds one he slid 642 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: at the line of. Scrimmage the first one was just 643 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: a great play By Cameron jordan doing what a veteran 644 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: does it just, says, yeah that are running away from, 645 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: Me i'm still heading to the, backfield and, oh by the, 646 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: way it's now a bootleg right to. Me it's an easy. 647 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: Sack the other thing we don't, Know, paul is when 648 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: the offensive, line what is your blocking? Assignment and this 649 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: goes back to The Justin pugh wouldn't call it a, 650 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: rant but the discussion that he had at his locker 651 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: one day after practice lamenting THE pff greats because how 652 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: do they know What i'm supposed to do on a particular? 653 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: Play so that's why the sack. Numbers, yes too high 654 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: of a. Total but how much was that on THE o? 655 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 1: Line how much was that On? Kyler how much was 656 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: just a credit to the defense and the play calls 657 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: By Brandon. Staley probably a little bit of both on 658 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: all three. Fronts but we need to make sure that 659 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: kay one stays upright more. 660 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: OFTEN i do agree with all the, above And i'll 661 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: just add if this was a Week's evan matchup Against 662 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: Brandon staley and The, saints would you have seen the same. 663 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 3: Issues i'm just. Saying on the, bench there was a 664 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: lot of, discussion a lot Of look it looks at the, 665 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: tablet you, know trying to adjust in game to What 666 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: staley was. Showing you, know whenever you have a new coaching, 667 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: staff and, Look staley has coordinated a lot of, defenses 668 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 3: and they know Especially john and again and him are. 669 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: Tight they know each. Other but you, know how's he 670 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 3: going to deploy his personnel in which? Ways, so once 671 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: again without any real film out, there because he's new 672 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 3: with This saints, roster if it would have Been week, 673 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 3: SEVEN i think, maybe just maybe it would have been 674 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 3: a little tighter the pass. Protection you wouldn't have have 675 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: had as many free rushers and dudes in the backfield. 676 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: Instantly whether that was because of a mental er or physical, 677 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: BREAKDOWN i don't. Know i'm just saying that if they 678 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: were to play, AGAIN i don't think it would look 679 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 3: nearly the same BECAUSE i think a lot of it 680 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: was a byproduct of week, One if that makes. 681 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: Sense that's a fair, point because going Into week, ONE 682 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: i didn't care how it. Looked you're on the, road 683 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: come away with a win however you, can and then 684 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: work on making the corrections moving. Forward, now if you 685 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: play like, that you'd like you did On sunday in weeks, seven, eight. Nine, 686 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: yeah you're going to lose more times than you're, not 687 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: so there's plenty to clean. Up but AS i mentioned, 688 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: earlier it's easier to do that on A monday after 689 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: you walk off the field with a. Win AND jg 690 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: said as much after the, games, like, hey, yeah it's 691 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: not easy to win in THE, nfl even more difficult 692 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: to win in THE nfl on the. Road we did 693 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 1: we move on home opener On sunday Against. 694 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: Carolina, yeah and, look win's Will hernandez coming. Back what 695 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 3: does that mean for this offensive? LINE i Think Jonah, 696 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: williams you, know he got That week one action In. 697 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: Okay you, know there's a flag Against. Yelda he was 698 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 3: being ultra aggressive and so there were a few things 699 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: there that they'll clean up up. Front and then also 700 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 3: there were a number of TIMES i thought Where Kyler 701 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 3: murray could have taken a page out Of Kellen moore 702 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 3: And Spencer ratler's playbook and the ball could have been. 703 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 3: Out you, know there were a number of times where 704 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 3: A Q shipley used the term coverage, sack and so 705 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 3: that ball's got to be out in rhythm and if 706 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 3: for whatever reason a guy isn't in the right spot 707 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: at the right. Time maybe the ball doesn't come. Out 708 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 3: we never truly. Know we've learned that the hard way 709 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: for twenty years. Now you never really, know but it 710 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: did seem like there is room for improvement when it 711 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: comes to the rhythm and pace and the precision of 712 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 3: the passing. 713 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: Game, cardinals, though get the w and that's all that 714 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: matters twenty to. Thirteen and also what matters IS i 715 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: believe this is year three now here On cardinals cover. 716 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: Two but we need to, Know, paul it's been a 717 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: long off. Season The Angry bird is it? Back is 718 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: The Angry Bird? Award oh ladies and, Gentlemen it, is 719 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: as you have The Angry Bird award in your possession, 720 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: now the question is as a little dusty by the, 721 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: way as we name names, here we've never really figured 722 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: out a way to get this to the individual who 723 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: gets the. Honor maybe On wednesdays and then picture is 724 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: taken and you can tweet it out after the, fact 725 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: but kind of more just for show purposes. Online well, yeah. 726 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 3: And that's really a byproduct of our lack of, budget 727 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: which is. Zero so we have. One it's basically the mock, 728 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 3: up and that's all we have it never really went 729 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 3: to production. Whatsoever so The Angry, bird which is the 730 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: version of this little stuffed animal out of my fifteen 731 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: year old's room back when she was four years, old 732 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: stuffed into a Mini i'll know it's, Gone. Craig and 733 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 3: so So i'd, say because of the smashing success operative words, 734 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 3: smashing and the way he looked and the fact that 735 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 3: he had an interception taken away from, him you know, 736 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 3: what we got to give him something because he did 737 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: not get to keep that game ball for his first career, 738 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: Interception so we need to put something in his. Hands 739 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 3: Will johnson is the recipient of The week One Angry Bird. 740 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: Award if for nothing, else he was most definitely angry 741 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 3: in the end zone Against rashid she he'd breaking that. 742 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 3: Up and most definitely angry anger management Against Chris olave 743 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 3: on that bubble. Screen and so there you. Go week 744 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 3: one goes To Will johnson the rookie one, tackle three passes, 745 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 3: defense and One Angry Bird. Award by the, way, overall 746 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 3: nine passes defensed in that game for The cardinals, defense 747 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 3: none bigger than the final or the second to last. 748 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: Play Budda baker got credited with that. Pass, defense BECAUSE 749 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 3: i don't think you can split a. SACK i don't 750 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: think you can split a pass. Defense but if you 751 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 3: were going to that last second to last, Play jalen And, 752 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 3: BUDDHA i think would split that, play but it went 753 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 3: to number three getting the credit for the game saving. 754 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 3: Play CAN i also say that if you're grading on 755 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 3: a curve nine passes defensed against an offense that was 756 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: getting rid of the ball ultra, quick that's even a 757 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 3: little more impressive than just nine passes. Defense so hopefully 758 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: that's a harbinger of things to come with the. Secondary 759 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: and what do we say in the, Offseason craig with 760 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 3: a revamped defensive, front how many interceptions a year? Ago? 761 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 3: Nine so you had nine passes defense in game? One 762 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 3: he should have had that one, interception did not See 763 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 3: you're a little bit behind the curve right. Now eighteen 764 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 3: of doubling doubling that. Nine that could be a little. 765 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 3: Tough it's sort of Like Cam. Cox he's on the 766 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 3: sideline And cam's like six six sacks today by The cardinals, 767 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 3: defense and right before kickoff And i'm Like, Cam, Cam, 768 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 3: hello the ball's gonna come out. Quick that's What Kellen 769 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: moore is known. For he's not gonna let his rookie 770 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: almost rookie. QUARTERBACKS i, mean come on. Now and so you, 771 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 3: know cam he got a little over his skis in week. 772 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 3: One he learned a regular season lesson and so back 773 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: to the lab for Cam, cox who's not getting an 774 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 3: award of any. 775 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: Sort by the, way there were six sacks total in 776 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: the game by one. Team let's finish off on a high. 777 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: Note The cardinals are in first place to THE Nfc, 778 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: west tied with The rams and forty Nine, ers and 779 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: once again we can say it, everybody the last Place. 780 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 3: Seahawks you know, WHAT i did not even realize THAT i. 781 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 3: Did you, Know i'm still catching. Up i'm making a 782 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 3: flight home last. Night fantastic finish that. GAME i was 783 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 3: hoping it would go to overtime and each you know 784 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 3: it would end in a. Tie but, yeah the the 785 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 3: forty Nine, ERS i don't know if they stole, one but, 786 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: hey their defense won that game for them on the 787 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: road In. Seattle So cardinals defense won that game for 788 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 3: The cardinals In New. Orleans you know, WHAT i didn't 789 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 3: Think week one could get any, better but, yeah the 790 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 3: three words last Place Seahawks i'll revel on. That there's 791 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 3: no doubt about, it that made the podcast for me. 792 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: And glad you made it back and were responsible over 793 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: your two days forty eight, hours maybe even less than 794 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: forty eight hours In New. 795 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 3: Orleans, yeah it was, Humid there's no doubt about. It 796 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 3: The friz factor was it at an all time high 797 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 3: walking Around New orleans as you, know the Whole Mississippi river, 798 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 3: thing And i'm, like, wow this Is but the food 799 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 3: was good and the outcome was even. 800 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: Better, absolutely enjoy your, Victory Monday Bird. Gang on that, 801 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: note we'll put it. On this edition Of Cardinals cover, 802 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: two presented By Hyundai probud partner of The Arizona, cardinals 803 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: has always special thanks to our executive Producer Jim, mamre 804 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: our associate Producer Coddy. Fincher For Paul, Calvic I'm Craig Real. 805 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: Lou we'll talk to you next time here On Cardinals 806 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: cover two