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Speaker 1: What What an incredible Sunday? What's Up Everybody? Three and

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Speaker 1: know what may go down as the greatest Championship Sunday

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Speaker 1: Joseph Middlecoff. That middle named Joseph comes from a guy

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Speaker 1: you know, to play defense and run the rock. And

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Speaker 1: he was a good player. He is a good player,

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Speaker 1: look Chobby right now, But hey, so am I. But

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Speaker 1: for McVeigh, the way he handled that game, how even

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Speaker 1: Keeley was him never freaking out when it was thirteen

431
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Speaker 1: nothing early in that game, it felt like forwarding to

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Speaker 1: nothing him, Well, he doesn't, you know, scheme special teams.

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00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 1: It's ultimately on his watch, yes or no to go

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Speaker 1: for it. And he said go for it at the

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Speaker 1: ideal time. And they completed that that you know, fake punt.

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Speaker 1: That was a big reason to me. If they punt

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Speaker 1: there in the same score of the game is over.

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00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: It felt borderline over there. You know, if somehow they

439
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: incomplete that fake punt, they are screwed. So to me,

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Speaker 1: it's not arguable anymore. The boy genius whatever I get.

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Speaker 1: We hate, you know, we hate anything new and it's

442
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Speaker 1: having too much success. We like we're a world of fives.

443
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: A lot of people in business say this, you know,

444
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: we never want anyone to be a one. We like

445
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: building them up, but we never wanted to be too

446
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Speaker 1: high because the moment they get to attend and we

447
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Speaker 1: like tearing them down. We like everyone to be in

448
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Speaker 1: the middle. The reality is they're they're a small percentage

449
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Speaker 1: of people that aren't anywhere near the meeting all in

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Speaker 1: this world. They're the best at what they do. That's

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Speaker 1: why they're usually the highest compensated. They're the top one percent.

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Speaker 1: You know what the top one percent is. For the

453
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Speaker 1: most part, they're better than me, and you like Sean McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: he's better than his contemporaries. He just is like he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go down. I mean, he doesn't. Obviously he's not

456
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Speaker 1: gonna sustain this, but it's clear like he's elite at

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Speaker 1: his job. And it's not fake praise, Like it's real.

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Speaker 1: Now all these other coaches that were hired because they

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Speaker 1: knew him, they're not him. That's what many teams are

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Speaker 1: gonna find out. He's probably a one of a kind. Okay.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest topics it feels like, ever was

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Speaker 1: this p I call. And I'll be honest, like, I

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Speaker 1: don't feel that bad today for the Saints and Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: specifically Sean Payton, not necessarily the Saints players. But let

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Speaker 1: let me say this. Coaches egos sometimes can get in

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Speaker 1: their way, and I am all for being aggressive, like

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Speaker 1: one behind being aggressive, though I do think you need

468
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: to pick your spots, like I like going forward on

469
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: short yard of situations. But if it's the NFC Championship

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Speaker 1: game and you're down three points, kick the field goal.

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, who progressive social media crushed, loved him kicking

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Speaker 1: the field goal. It is the right move, Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: They hit a long pass play to ted gain down

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Speaker 1: into the red zone under the two minute warning. Hits

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Speaker 1: are right under the two minute warning, so they got

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Speaker 1: the ball. The Rams have two time outs, so the

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Speaker 1: clock is now to your advantage. You can use that

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Speaker 1: against the Rams. You run the ball two straight times,

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Speaker 1: they are gonna use the time out both times. Then

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Speaker 1: on third down you can run the ball again and

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Speaker 1: the clock would be around let's say, give or take one.

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Speaker 1: You can run the clock all the way down to

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Speaker 1: like fifty seconds, give or take. Then Jared Goff on

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Speaker 1: the road where he hadn't been that great, would have

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Speaker 1: to Let's just assume they get to the twenty yard line.

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Speaker 1: The kickoff would have to go about forty yards to

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Speaker 1: get them in field goal range with no time out. Instead,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton throws it on first down, and you could

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Speaker 1: be like middle cough it was a layup throw. Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees arguably the most accurate passer statistically, actually the most

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Speaker 1: accurate pastor in NFL history. Even was like sev or

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Speaker 1: whatever this year, seventy whatever. I don't have this box

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Speaker 1: score on a season in front of me. Let's just

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Speaker 1: say seventy two for argument's sake. If he's seventy, that

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Speaker 1: means of his passes go incomplete. Guess what percentage of

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Speaker 1: plays the clock stops on when you run the football.

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Speaker 1: Zero unless you turn it over. That would obviously be

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Speaker 1: a disaster. But you can turn it over on any play.

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Speaker 1: If you run the ball, the clock continues. If in

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Speaker 1: that of passes he is incomplete, or the balls dropped,

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Speaker 1: or whatever happens, the clock stops. So I cannot defend.

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Speaker 1: And I think Peter King wrote or someone wrote that

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees changed the call at the line. I don't

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Speaker 1: care the play call. You look at Drew Brees, and

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees should agree. We're running the ball three straight times.

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Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with getting yards. You have

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Speaker 1: a chip shot field goal, you run the ball three times,

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Speaker 1: you get the ball, you get the clock around fifty seconds,

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Speaker 1: you have a three point lead, and that quarterback who

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Speaker 1: has never won a big game on the road, has

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Speaker 1: to go forty plus yards maybe more to get them

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Speaker 1: in field goal range. And they have no time outs,

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Speaker 1: meaning that if they hit one play let's say it's

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Speaker 1: twenty yards over the middle of the field, that's at

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Speaker 1: least running from fifty seconds to like, the time would

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Speaker 1: not be on their side with no timeouts. This is

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Speaker 1: not college football. The clock does not stop after first

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Speaker 1: downs anything under a minute, and you gotta go a

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Speaker 1: long you know, ways to go you are in troubles.

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Speaker 1: Why the Chiefs they had thirty nine seconds, but they

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Speaker 1: had a time out, so it's kind of like the

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Speaker 1: equivalent probably like a minute ten seconds, you know, to

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Speaker 1: get in the field goal range. And their guy returned

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Speaker 1: it I think to like the thirty three yard line,

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Speaker 1: so they didn't have to go as far as you think.

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Speaker 1: I I cannot condone John Payton's play calling. I think

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Speaker 1: it was moronic. One of the reasons. Yeah, it was dumb.

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Speaker 1: They also on third down it was dumb in terms

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Speaker 1: of the referees. No p I call, and it was

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Speaker 1: you know, Sean Payton said it was a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: level call. You never should have been in that situation

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Speaker 1: in the first place. Your seasons on the line. Michael Thomas,

533
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Speaker 1: all pro level player, Alvin Kamara, all pro level player.

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Speaker 1: You have two elite offensive weapons and you throw it

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Speaker 1: to as I named him, Tommy Lee Jones a k

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Speaker 1: A real name, Tommy Lee Harris. Exactly. We've never heard

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Speaker 1: of Tommy Lee Harris, even a die hard Saints fan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tommy Lee, that's who you're going to with

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Speaker 1: the game on the line. I I can't condone it

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00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: on third, Like, what why were you even in that situation?

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. It was coaching mal practice. I think

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00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is basically a Hall of Fame level coach.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was moronic. That whole stretch of three

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Speaker 1: plays after you just hit an incredible play to ted

545
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: again to go like forty plus yards, to then throw

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Speaker 1: the ball on first down, and then you screw and

547
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: then then you're just time is no longer to your

548
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: advantage because they got two time outs, you get to plays.

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00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: You ran it for nothing and then you throw that ball,

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00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: which again your seasons on the line, and you're throwing

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00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: it to Tommy Lee Harris say that out loud. That

552
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: is insane. So I don't feel bad for the Saints losing,

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00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: and let's get in the overtime stuff. I'm personally, personally

554
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Speaker 1: not a big believer and like everything has to be fair.

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00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 1: The world is not fair, and honestly, it worked out

556
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Speaker 1: pretty well for the Saints. Like everyone's freaking out out

557
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: the overtime rules. I kind of like the way the

558
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: NFL hasn't situated. I like it more than when like

559
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: a field goal you used to be you truly sudden death.

560
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: I like giving both teams a chance, but if you

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00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: score a touchdown, like both teams shouldn't get the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to touch the ball. I would not want to see

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Speaker 1: the college overtime in the NFL. Maybe we just get

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Speaker 1: a field goal. I I like the way it is

565
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: and and for the argument for the Saints, like I

566
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: get if you're a Chiefs fan you're a little mad,

567
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: but like they had to drive the entire field to

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Speaker 1: score touchdown and they couldn't stop him. The Saints got

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Speaker 1: the ball first in overtime, like you're at home. You

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Speaker 1: get the ball first, you should be able to score

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. If you don't, that's on you. I really

572
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: found myself today waking up because of Sean Payton's agregious coaching,

573
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: feeling zero compassion toward him. I don't agree with what

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Speaker 1: he did. I think it ultimately cost him the game,

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Speaker 1: and it's why I don't feel bad for this shitty

576
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: play call. And I and I hate the refs. I

577
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: think they're terrible in the NFL, and it's a problem.

578
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: But I they should never have been in that place,

579
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: and the first never should have gotten there, shouldn't have

580
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: been in that situation. Should have been basically like a

581
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Speaker 1: kneel down, run the clock down like fifty seconds. So

582
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Speaker 1: you're not playing Tom Brady, you're Payton man, You're playing

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff and Todd Gurley had been m I A

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Speaker 1: O game should have been a should have been a

585
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Speaker 1: win for the ramp or the Saints. It's on Sewan Peyton.

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Speaker 1: This was a huge weekend in really playoff the last

587
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Speaker 1: three weeks and honestly the entire season, the ratings bounced

588
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Speaker 1: back the NFL. You know that they had always been

589
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: on top but just kind of re established their dominance

590
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: of the three leagues. Twitter progressive Twitter had been telling

591
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: me the NBA's taking them over. You know, the NBA

592
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: struggles to get a million people to watch a big

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Speaker 1: regular season game on ESPN or t n T. They

594
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: struggled to get a million people to watch. Uh, And

595
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: I got news for you. The West Coast game doesn't

596
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: get that many people to watch. But like, it was

597
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: never really a question. It was the media. Like, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honestly, I haven't voted once in my life.

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00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: It's probably not a great thing to be. I'm not

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Speaker 1: proud of it. It's just I'm just being honest. I'm

601
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: just being That's just reality of the situation. I hang

602
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: my hat on being authentic. I don't vote mainly because

603
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: I think they're both frauds. Uh. You know, and I

604
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: think the media the last couple of years kind of

605
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: became this anti establishment, the sports media. It's been proven.

606
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: We know what they are. The majority of them, the

607
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: heavily you know majority, plus our hardcore left wingers. Most

608
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: of us are somewhere in the middle. You know, most

609
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: people are somewhere in the middle. They don't have extreme

610
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: views and football really probably two years ago with the

611
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: Kaepernick stuff became really extreme that wears people out. At

612
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: football's core, it is something that we can all do

613
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: on Sundays, relax, get with our friends, drink beer and

614
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: bs about during the week, it's not that serious, you know,

615
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: it's serious for me, like I make a living off it.

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00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: I've worked in it. But the reason so many people

617
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: watch is it's casually. You can take it in and

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00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: it's the easiest sport of the three to watch. It's

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Speaker 1: only three hours a week. I mean Baseball, there's a

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00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: reason only old people watch it. Now you have to

621
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: dedicate so much damn time to consuming the product. The

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00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: NBA place three or four times a week, and I

623
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: know they love to tell you like player empowerment. Yeah,

624
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: the players have been empowered my entire life. I mean,

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00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's is easily the biggest star of my lifetime

626
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: and the and even in his heyday, the NBA didn't

627
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: sniff the NFL. So this notion. Now, the NFL has

628
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: its own issues. It's a physical sports. CT is a

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00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: real thing. Concussions. The NFL is proactive in it. But

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Speaker 1: the one thing I'll always say, and the NFL has

631
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: it going for them that the other sports never will.

632
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: In baseball really fights against this is there's an urgency

633
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: to the sport. Every game in the playoffs is a

634
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: game seven. Think about that. Every game in the playoffs

635
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: is a game seven. It's winner go home. Every regular

636
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: season game except really the Patriots matters. Every game matters.

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Speaker 1: I as I'm recording this, I got the Sixers and

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Speaker 1: Rockets on in the background. James Harden is on this

639
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Speaker 1: historic stretch of like forty points in the game. I mean,

640
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Speaker 1: it's incredible and and Beads, you know, one of the

641
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Speaker 1: best center as we've seen the league. And it's like

642
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: shock and it doesn't mean a goddamn thing. It literally

643
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: couldn't mean any less. The game is meaningless. Not probably

644
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people are betting on it. It's just

645
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Speaker 1: there's something the NFL has that these other leagues just

646
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: aren't gonna be able to sniff. And and I listen,

647
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: I like to gamble. A lot of people think, like

648
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: what gambling is gonna do to baseball? The in game bets. Yeah,

649
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna do that much, because I'll

650
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: promise you this, Uh, James, the year old ain't watching

651
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: baseball every night, and he's not gonna start just because

652
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: you can bet on a fourth inning app bat. He

653
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: may watch it once, he may mess around a little bit,

654
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: but the one thing he'll do is he's gonna gamble

655
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Speaker 1: on Sundays. Why because it's easy to gamble on Sundays.

656
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: It's just once a week. You have a bunch of

657
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: information that you can gain throughout the week from press

658
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: conferences to reading things about your team. And it's a

659
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: it's an easy thing to follow. And the one thing

660
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Speaker 1: that the NFL really got back to this year is

661
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: and and they knew it, and the media crust them.

662
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: They wanted out of politics badly. They don't use The

663
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: NFL is not a vehicle to make political statements. It's

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Speaker 1: a vehicle to make money. It's a business. It's a

665
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: vehicle to play a sport to generate that cash. It's

666
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: just that simple. And I know media members have tried

667
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: to tell you other things forever. It's not that and

668
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be that. It's the best when it was

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Speaker 1: just like this year, on the field storylines and I

670
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: don't mind off the field storylines like who's gonna get fired?

671
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: Things relating to the sport teammates like each other. I

672
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: like to draw them in that. But you know, the

673
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: NFL and Malcolm Jenkins tried to tell Eric Read this like,

674
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Speaker 1: let's get out of the identity politics. Let's come together

675
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Speaker 1: and fight for a greater good together instead of being split.

676
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: We're in this business together. This is a business. And

677
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Speaker 1: ultimately Eric read, you know, I think, called him a sellout.

678
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Speaker 1: Turns out Malcolm Jenkins like one of the highest character

679
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Speaker 1: guys in the league, and Eric read his own union,

680
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: uh called him a liar for making up the stories

681
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: about the drug tests. But at the end of the day,

682
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: the league move past that. Uh not because no one

683
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: ever disagreed what they're fighting for. I've never met any

684
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Speaker 1: like most people. The reactions on social media, when you

685
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: give them to social media, it's it's such a small group,

686
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: a vocal minority, a very very loud minority vocally well

687
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Speaker 1: actually through their tweets, that it can consume you and

688
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: overwhelmed and you think it's like what the majority of

689
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: people think. But if you just go out to society,

690
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: I always use the locker room tests, like go to

691
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: the gym, uh and just start bus with people in

692
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: the locker room and those conversations because in my locker

693
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: room there's just big TV usually a game on, and

694
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Speaker 1: people like you know, especially they know what I do,

695
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: and someone will start They just start talking about games,

696
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: about players, about coaches. You know that. No one wants

697
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: to talk about the politics. Nobody, even people that do

698
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: it for a living, working the financial sector, you name it,

699
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: it's just it. It wears you out. You just want

700
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: to talk about like, God, do you see that throwed

701
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: by Tom Brady? God? What do you think about that

702
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: called by Sean Payton? That at the core is what

703
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: people want to talk about, not identity, politics and football

704
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: and football this year and the big reason why they've

705
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: taken back over they got out of that business. They

706
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: desperately tried, and it finally kind of worked this year,

707
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Speaker 1: and I think we've all benefited and football was just

708
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: kind of fun this year. Then Bitch and Moan all

709
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: year back concussions, didn't talk about kneeling. We just talked

710
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: about football. And guess what, fifty million people or something

711
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: watched the CBS game. I'd imagine fifty plus million watch

712
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: the Fox game. People watch and love football. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: uh let's end the podcast by getting in the Middlecoff

714
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Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle. You

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Speaker 1: just slide up into my d m s. I think

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Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of my d ms over the

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Speaker 1: last year have been men damn me about football. You

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00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: know a lot of people, you know, babes on the

719
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: internet will say, like, guys try to slide up in

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Speaker 1: their d m s. It's basically what my d m

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Speaker 1: s are with you guys, DM me me just questions

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Speaker 1: about college or the NFL. Uh So, yeah, it's not

723
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: as fun quite to be me. But I know I'm kidding.

724
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: I like it. Uh you know, it's actually pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: It's a great way to interact, you know, on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the modern day, millennial way of taking calls. Hey, John,

727
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Speaker 1: big fan of the pod, keep up the good work.

728
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Speaker 1: I'll try. What is your honest take on Mike Variable

729
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Speaker 1: and how would you grade his first year as a

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Speaker 1: head coach. I've never met him in like a social setting.

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Speaker 1: I've been at practice with him. I walked by, I

732
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Speaker 1: went to a Titans practice. Always kind of been a

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Speaker 1: fan obviously as a player, super high level guy, elite teammate,

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Speaker 1: in New England champion. You know, clearly Belichick thinks really

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Speaker 1: highly of him. Obviously, Bill O'Brien loves him, and Urban

736
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Speaker 1: Meyer loves him. I think he's a good coach. I

737
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: think he's impressive. The players like him, you know, this

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Speaker 1: first year, you know, i'd probably give him I don't know,

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Speaker 1: a B B plus. I mean, he did take over

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Speaker 1: a playoff team. To me, he had them. I think

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Speaker 1: if Mariota can stay on the damn field, they'd they'd

742
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Speaker 1: be a playoff team. And it's hard to judge him.

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Speaker 1: They basically had a playoff game Week seventeen. He started

744
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Speaker 1: playing Gabbert even the week before. Uh they won. Remember

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00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: they played on the Saturday, Week sixteen. Mariota got knocked

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Speaker 1: out at halftime. It's like they can't depend on their

747
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: quarterback ever playing. You know, in one year there, I

748
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: thought their defense was really good. Uh. Now, their defense

749
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Speaker 1: had been good at year, you know, the year before,

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Speaker 1: but their defense I thought was really good. Their secondary

751
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: was improved. Uh. I like him. You know, I don't know,

752
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell off one year, but I'd say,

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00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's one year playoff mix. Basically up until

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen, when I can't expect you to win with

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Speaker 1: your backup quarterback in that situation, even if the games

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Speaker 1: at home, especially if the quarterbacks playing gab uh So,

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00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: I not give you a pass. But you know, I

758
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: thought he did a good job. I think he's a

759
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: good coach. You know, the coaching staff he has seems

760
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: to be solid this year will be somewhat telling. Uh,

761
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Speaker 1: Losing Lafleur, who really didn't do that great of a

762
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: job that elevated the tight ends coach. You know, the

763
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: question for him is gonna be like, he's an energy guy,

764
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: he's a defensive guy. What's he gonna do on offense?

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Speaker 1: And it's always my question just in general, why say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not that big on offensive coaches because

767
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Speaker 1: if they if this, let's say the tight end coach

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Speaker 1: that they just promoted, I saw it. Really, I don't

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Speaker 1: even have his name in front of me, might be

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Speaker 1: Austin something. But let's say this guy crushes it. Let's

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Speaker 1: say Mariota comes back and he's healthy next year and

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Speaker 1: they win the division and Mariota looks the best he

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Speaker 1: has in his career. Well, I would bet my life

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Speaker 1: that that guy gets a head coaching job, he would

775
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: immediately become a head coach because you go, well, this

776
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Speaker 1: guy just saved Mariota's career. Save might be strong resurrected it.

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Speaker 1: And I know Rable eight coaching him. So that's always

778
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Speaker 1: my problem with defensive guys I never have to worry

779
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: about like Khalil Max or Aaron Donald. I'm not saying

780
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Speaker 1: those guys coach themselves or von Miller, but they're easier

781
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: to coach than the quarterback. It's so much hard to

782
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: find quarterback whispers. But if I'm gonna have a defensive guy,

783
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Speaker 1: I want him to be a scheme guy, which clearly Rable,

784
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Speaker 1: I mean all those Belichick years, is really really smart, right.

785
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Speaker 1: He understands defense coverages, he gets it, and he's also

786
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Speaker 1: a good motivator. So he's two of the three things

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Speaker 1: that I'd ideally want. Now in a perfect world, I'd

788
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: want like a quarterback coach that's also a motivator and

789
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Speaker 1: that knows defense. Right. But that guy's name, he's a

790
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Speaker 1: little short guy that works for the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I think his name is Bill Belichick, so that he

792
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Speaker 1: might be the only one. Hey, John, big fan, I

793
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Speaker 1: have a question for the mail bag. What position did

794
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Speaker 1: you play in your playing career and what was your

795
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Speaker 1: playing career like, Well, I was a seven year NFL veteran. No,

796
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Uh, I just played in high school.

797
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: And you know, it wasn't overachieving little right guard. It

798
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: wasn't very good. Small. Um, it wasn't very good at football.

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Speaker 1: I I just, like a lot of people that are young,

800
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: I like football. You know, I was actually a much

801
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: better golfer. But golf sucks. You're playing by yourself. You

802
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: actually like it the older you get because it's like

803
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: one of the only sports you could play. I was

804
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: terrible at football, but I liked it. I enjoyed being

805
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: with my friends. I enjoyed the schematic stuff, which I'm

806
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: still not like live and die with scheme, But you

807
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: enjoy that more as you get older. The you know,

808
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: the strategy that goes in to the sport of football.

809
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: You practice so much more. And you played. I was

810
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: just I was hooked from the moment I started playing,

811
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Speaker 1: and I knew I wasn't very good. Uh. But the

812
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: reality is, you know, most people involved in the business,

813
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, the great players usually don't want to stay

814
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Speaker 1: in football. You know, That's what's kind of cool about

815
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: like Tony Romo is, you know, it's why even most coaches,

816
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: like the best coaches, weren't the best players. Uh. And

817
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: obviously if I had that much money, I wouldn't be

818
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: doing this either. But yeah, it wasn't a very very

819
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Speaker 1: marginal high school player, offensive guard, backup linebacker. Um. Probably

820
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Speaker 1: hard to find any information about the middlecof playing career

821
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: at Davis Senior High School. We had high hopes. My

822
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: junior year didn't work out. Senior year we were pretty terrible.

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Speaker 1: Quick question, why hasn't Todd Haley gotten a job offer?

824
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: Uh this year as an offensive coordinator? Find it a

825
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: little weird given his experience. Yeah, I think his problem

826
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Speaker 1: is his you know. And then I talked about this

827
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: with a lot All coaches heavy egos. So when I say,

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Speaker 1: like a guy has an ego, every human worth their

829
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Speaker 1: salt that's good at anything has a little bit of

830
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Speaker 1: an ego. But there is a balancing act and I

831
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: think people would tell you about. And I also think

832
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Speaker 1: when you have an ego, like if your belichicker Saban

833
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: and your resume is just so elite and you win

834
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: every year, you can kind of be an asshole, Like,

835
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Speaker 1: you know, if you're not the head guy and you're

836
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Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator that kind of rubs people the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to be an asshole now. I struggle calling

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Speaker 1: someone that, especially I've never met him. Actually, the one

839
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: time I saw Todd Haley was last year at the combine.

840
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: He was getting wasted. You actually see it seems like

841
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: a pretty fun guy, but he clearly is pretty difficult

842
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: to work with. You know, He's had some pretty famous

843
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: you know with the Chiefs and this thing with the

844
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns, which didn't kind of feel like

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00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: his entire fault, but there's something there now. And I

846
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: always kind of defended him because it seems like Ben's

847
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass. But then was it last

848
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: year after the playoff game when Haley got arrested for

849
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: the tequila But then you're like, wow, did someone push

850
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: his wife? It's hard to blame him. But then it

851
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, it might be Todd. So

852
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: my simple answer from I don't know that much. I

853
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: don't know him. I don't really talk to people that

854
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: know him that well. I don't ever talk out Todd Haley.

855
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: My guests would be it's more self inflicted, like it

856
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: starts with Todd. Now it's not completely his fault. Maybe

857
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: it's like probably in any business. The NFL is relatively small,

858
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: but it's so public that when you get a reputation,

859
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: whether it's fair or not, sometimes it's hard to shake. Uh.

860
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: And I think right now he has a terrible reputation

861
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: as a you know, I would say teammates the wrong word,

862
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: but just as like a fellow coworker, and teams are

863
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: just staying away, you know, because I'm with you. His

864
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: resume as a play caller is pretty good, right, he

865
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: did great work. Remember Kurt Warner in Arizona? Uh than

866
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: he did he make in the playoffs one time in

867
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City, I think he did. And then obviously with Ben,

868
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean they want to ship ton of games. I

869
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: mean all that that they did during his time was

870
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: win game score points. Right. So it's just I think

871
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: you got to be very careful in life, and I

872
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: try to be cognizant of it, and it's hard. But

873
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: your reputation, just the way you treat people, Now it's

874
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: weird because it's also like you could treat people that

875
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: don't impact your life well and be a good person,

876
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: but if you butt heads with the wrong person that

877
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: has political power in whatever you do, they could kind

878
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: of bad mouth you even though it's not totally true

879
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: and ruin your career. So it's just I don't know.

880
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: It's I don't have a great answer to that question

881
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: because it's kind of feels like I don't want to

882
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: say career over because he's done too much, but he

883
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: might need to do like a little, uh, a little

884
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: sabbatical for a year, maybe do a little rehabilitation too,

885
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: because it feels like his career is It's just I

886
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: don't know, it's kind of down a bad path right

887
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: now about his personal life. Uh, John. One attribute we

888
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: hear a lot about with quarterbacks is their accuracy. Another

889
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: is winning pedigree. Sorry clicked out. Why then would you

890
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: say quarterbacks like Colton McCoy and Kellen Moore, who were

891
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: deadly accurate and one more than anyone in college struggle

892
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: as they did in the NFL. Well, I think the

893
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: biggest those two guys are great examples. There is like

894
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: a I would say, like a threshold for arms strength.

895
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: And I was at Frizzen State when Kellen Moore was

896
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: in college I'll say this probably the day I die,

897
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: mainly because I was on the sideline to watch him

898
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: twice and he was on those Boise teams that were

899
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: so damn good. I stand by this. The one year

900
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: that Kaepernick beat him in Nevada, I think that team

901
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: probably could have played with anyone in the country, and

902
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: it took. I mean, Kaepernick was a pretty unreal college player.

903
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: That game in Nevada was freezing. It was a craziest game.

904
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: But I think Kellen Moore, who was deadly accurate, he

905
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: had you know, if it was like if I was

906
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: grading a guy one to ten arm strength, let's say

907
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: like Mahomes and far and guys like that are tens,

908
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: I would say Alex Smith is like, I don't know,

909
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: five or five and a half. I'd say that Kellen

910
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: Moore is like a two. And I'd say that Colin,

911
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: excuse me, Colton McCoy is like four. So like, if

912
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: you're not at the basic threshold for quarterbacks at armstrength,

913
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: it's hard to play in the NFL because the windows

914
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: closed so fast, dbs are so fast, coordinators are so good.

915
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: It's like, even if you are deadly accurate as a picture,

916
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: you still for the most part, probably in baseball, gotta

917
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: throw like ninety maybe eighty nine. Like let's think about

918
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: I was watching something on MLB Network the other day

919
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: and they were doing like the best. It was on

920
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: my second TV that I just usually leave the background

921
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: noise if there's nothing else to watch, if I'm like

922
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Speaker 1: watching a movie or something. Yeah, I'm a nut. And

923
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: I looked up and they were going over Like Greg

924
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: Maddox is one of his seasons when he was winning

925
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: like four straight side of Young's and I have to

926
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: look like what his average velocity was to speak, but

927
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was nine whatever, So like he

928
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: was at the threat, but he was like basically the

929
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: Drew Brees baseball could just pinpoint the ball if you

930
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: if you are not pinpoint accurate, which these guys I

931
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't say Kellen was close to. But his arm strength

932
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: was so bad. Greg Maddox would not have been Greg Maddox.

933
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: If he threw like he still had to hit like

934
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: top out high eighties, low, you know, ninety right, if

935
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: he threw eighty, I don't care if you can paint

936
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: the corner. Uh, dudes are gonna break, right, So even

937
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: if you are the most anticipatory, incredibly smart, which I'm

938
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: telling you, Kellen Moore, I've been saying for a while,

939
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: keep an eye on him as the next quarterback or

940
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: excuse me, head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. He's there. McVeigh,

941
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, Cliff Kingsbury type. Dad was a high school coach.

942
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: He was a brilliant player, rose through the coaching ranks

943
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: like a like a rocket ship. Keep an eye on that.

944
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: But he just doesn't have good enough arm. So I think,

945
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: you know, progressive draft. Twitter love to tell you that arms,

946
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Frank doesn't matter, and I would say, once you get

947
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: to the threat, sohold, it doesn't matter as much. But

948
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: it always mattered for Alex, like there was always a

949
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: limitation for Alex in a playoff game. He get away

950
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: with it in September or October, but when the weather turned,

951
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: whether it was the NFC Championship at Candlestick when it

952
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: was pouring rain, some of those you know, playoff games.

953
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: He was great in the playoff game, Oh yeah, in

954
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: the Dome in Indy. Wasn't quite as good outside because

955
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: why because it's hard to throw in ten degrees if

956
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: you live in the cold. Go outside trying to throw football,

957
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: it's hard, and that that's why Mahomes and Brady and

958
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: it didn't matter for Breeze and goth as much, who

959
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: don't have great arms, but they're in a dome and

960
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: they got a way above average arms. I think Breeze

961
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: a great example of I'd say Breeze his arm in

962
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: his peak was probably like a seven. Probably now he

963
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: actually didn't play very well in the playoffs. It's probably

964
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: like a six six and a half. But he's the

965
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: most accurate quarterback. Literally, I said earlier on the pod

966
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: when I was making the Breeze example that it was

967
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: was actually seventy this year. Like part of that. The

968
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: game has changed a little bit. It's easier and they

969
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: throw a lot more screens. But still, I mean, he's

970
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: a sixty seven career completion percentage like that is pretty incredible.

971
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: So I think when guys like that fail and you

972
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: see him every year, a guy who was just incredible

973
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: status at smaller schools, and I don't Coult played at Texas,

974
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: but it's just arm strength and arms strength that there

975
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: is just a base level that it's it's people love

976
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: to tell you it doesn't matter and to me. It

977
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: just does. See if I can get one more question here? Okay,

978
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: got one. Recently started list of the podcast. I had

979
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: questions regarding the Patriots future. I believe that Brady plays

980
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: out his contract, meaning he plays two more seasons and

981
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: the paid and the Patriots don't have a backup plan

982
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: by Taylor, Lawrence is expected to come out the year

983
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: after or the year after. He won't be eligible next

984
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: He'll be eligible in two years. And I like where

985
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: this is going. What do you think about the Patriots

986
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: should give up to draft him after Brady retires, and

987
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: what do you think about them drafting him overall? And

988
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the past future? Well, I'd

989
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: see this. The problem for the Patriots and Trevor Lawrence

990
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: is gonna be them just getting Trevor Lawrence because they

991
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: are gonna be drafting. I mean this year they're drafting

992
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: thirty or thirty two next year. I got news for everyone.

993
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: Patriots got everyone coming back. Trevor Brown is a free agent,

994
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: but they got Isaiah Win, the guy they drafted to

995
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: be the left tackle in the first round, coming back

996
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: off an achilles. They have a first round pick, they

997
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: got two second round picks. And they got three through

998
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: round picks, so they're gonna be really good. They could

999
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: think that way. To me, it's a little hard with

1000
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: Brady still kicking this much ass, but you're right, he's

1001
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: forty one. They don't have a backup plan. I don't know.

1002
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't I think the Trevor Lawrence to the Patriots

1003
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: feels like basically impossible, like it's not gonna happen. I

1004
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: guess you never say never of Belichick, Like if he

1005
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: trades out of first round this year, it gets an

1006
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: another first round next year. Maybe keep an eye on that.

1007
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're gonna have to draft

1008
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: a guy. I would imagine that they draft a quarterback

1009
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: in this draft and their future as long as uh

1010
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is roaming the sideline. And why would he quit?

1011
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: Someone text me the other day or excuse me tweeted

1012
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: at me, and I thought they had a good question

1013
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: because it did cross my mind before the game, like

1014
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: when do you think Brady retires? Like could you imagine

1015
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: Brady going to the Super Bowl and holding up the

1016
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Trophy and like I'm retiring, you know I can't.

1017
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: And the analogy I used is there's a reason like

1018
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: Warren Buffett hasn't retired. It has never been easier January

1019
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, as I'm recording this, whatever j Warren

1020
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: Buffett did today, but today as tomorrow, will never be

1021
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: easier for him to make more money as well the

1022
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: next day, and it will only get easier and easier

1023
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: for him to make more money. It has never been

1024
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: easier for the path to win now. Individual games are hard,

1025
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: but it's never been easier for them to be in

1026
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: the mix. Just like they were kind of shitty this year,

1027
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: they were eleven and five and boom, they're in the

1028
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: a f C Championship, Like because the division sucks. It's

1029
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: like they Belichick's kind of mastered the league, Brady's now mastered,

1030
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: kind of relaxing during the regular season to really go

1031
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: pedal the metal in the playoffs. So I don't know.

1032
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: I they don't really have a backup plan, but I

1033
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna go away. And I think that

1034
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: both of them, it's just never been easier for them

1035
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: to kick ass. Now they have to do it a

1036
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: little differently, right, It's a little more complicated for Belichick

1037
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: to like sign players and trade for players and Brady.

1038
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: It takes them a little more time to get ready

1039
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: for games and the regular season is a little more difficult,

1040
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: but the end result, like the Kansas City game was

1041
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: hard for them, but the overall season felt relatively easy.

1042
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, so relative to like other NFL teams. The

1043
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: Scratch Claw and like would kill their mom for ten

1044
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: wins like Belichick and you know, close his eyes September

1045
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: through December and end up with ten. I mean he

1046
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: could do that with his eyes closed. He could do

1047
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: that with like taking two days off a week. Uh So,

1048
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I think as long as Belichick's around,

1049
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in good shape. And they did it

1050
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: with Jimmy. They'll find a guy in this upcoming draft.

1051
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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. Another podcast in the books and I

1052
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: will see you guys Friday. You know, no football this week.

1053
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: Uh god, it's gonna be tough. But as we get

1054
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl this week, uh they'll be there'll be good

1055
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: stories coming out of the Senior Bowl and we'll just

1056
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: we'll just keep on flowing. Thanks again for listening. Tell

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