1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: My native honor stole twenty five thousand dollars from me? 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: She's out of the wedding. Did I go too far? 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: In this is okop? Where were the craziest true stories 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: on Earth? I'm John and Sophia. Did ope go too far? Uh? 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: No? 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 3: I think if you steal twenty five thousand dollars, I 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: think that is grounds you kind of lose the invite. Yeah, 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: I think that's that's where I draw a line. 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: What's the what's the what's the threshold? What's the dollar amount? 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: Got one grand too far? Yeah? You took a lot. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Too Honestly me, I'm twenty four ninety nine, like twenty four. 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: Ninety nine, and that is where I draw the line. 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: One dollar over? 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: But well, what if they were like planning the wedding? 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: What if they were buying all the things for the wedding? 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: Riley adding a little bit of. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: Interesting once didn't even do me think about Riley pre 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: story Banter is not for nuance, Okay, it's for wild speculation. 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: Wild speculation and outrageous claims. 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: That's right. Love being outrageous, yes, But speaking of being outrageous, 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: let's read this outrageous story. Oh Kaylee, ninety nine. They say, I, 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: twenty three female, am getting married in a couple of days. 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: Colations. 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Most of this has happened in the last two weeks. 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: My maid of honor, twenty six female, Mara, was in 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: charge of planning my bachelorette party, which I wanted to 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: be a surprise. 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so they were planning the party. 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: We're planning the party. So Riley's there. So that was really. 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: Guy. 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Riley just like drops these incredible insights after reading the 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: entire story. 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: How he finds these stories not lying to us. 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: We live in a city, but none of us live downtown. 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: So I was hoping for a hotel room downtown and 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: having a fun night out with the friends, maybe a brunch. 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Most of the bridal party live locally, but two girls 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: flew in for it. When Mara, the maid of honor, 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: picked me up two weeks ago on Friday, I was 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: excited to see where we were going and what we 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: were doing. So she was, which I think is the norm. 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: The bride's going in blind. 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's usually like bride's or like made 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: of honor does all. 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: The planning and then it's like surprise, which is cool, 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: Like it's kind of cool to just go in completely. 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: Not a surprise birthday party. Yeah, surprises, but like, no 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: one's ever thrown me a surprise. 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: What's your what's your favorite surprise? What's the best surprise 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: you've ever gotten? Oh no, wait, I don't know. 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't know either. I can't think of I can't 53 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: think of one surprise. 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: I can't think of a single surprising thing that's ever 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: happened to me. 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Guys, can you can you surprise Sofia with a really 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: nice comment complimenting her as you as you all do, 58 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: give give her a nice surprise. 59 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: You guys are really nice in the comments. 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: I just want to say, throw some pro Sofia comments 61 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: down below and surprise Baker Day like two easter from now. 62 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: We'll just get flooded with pros out. 63 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, you can't do it on this video 64 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: because I'm expecting Oh. 65 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, wait a few days. They just sprinkled 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: them out over time. 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: Go back like on like my first video. 68 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: There we go, everyone find that go do it now. 69 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: We ended up going Tomorrow's one bedroom town home and 70 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: spent the whole weekend there. There were eight of us, 71 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: so it was cramped and we kept running into issues 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: with only one bathroom. 73 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god, with eight people, we eight eight people, 74 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: that's a lot. Yeah, it's one bedroom town home. 75 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, people, that's a little rough. On Friday night we 76 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: had games and ordered pizza. Saturday, we had a Mimosa 77 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: bar when shopping, ordered food, and watched a movie before 78 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: parting ways on Sunday. So this is like a pretty 79 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: was it intensive celorette? I can say, kind of tame 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: to where they where they couldn't go. 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: I guess, so I mean like intensive and like it's 82 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: like a like a pack schedule schede was better than 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: like that would be got playboard game to a strip C. 84 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to go get drunk. I want to 85 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: play board games. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, all that stuff is 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: like it's intense. It's a lot. 87 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: By the way, by the end of the episode, Riley's 88 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: going to tell us what his bachelor party is going 89 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: to be. Oh yeah, yeah, you have to you have to, 90 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: no choice, no choice, there you go, no choice. Use 91 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: this time to plan. 92 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't the bachelorette party of my dreams or a 94 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: particularly fun weekend. 95 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: But it was okay, and I appreciated it. It was 96 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: just okay. Wow. 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: Last weekend, my fiance, thirty two male James had returned 98 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: from a work trip, which I don't know if this 99 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: is maybe worth noting, but I always clock the age 100 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: of ference just in case it was twenty three. Yeah, 101 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: twenty three. I always clocked the age difference because usually 102 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: are related to that. But we shall say, we shall 103 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: say maybe this. 104 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: Or not, maybe this one's maybe they're different. 105 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, right, I could Riley if a thirty two woman, yeah, 106 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: woman woman approached you and was like, Riley, let's do 107 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: this thing. I mean, I'm down. 108 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: I think it just depends on when they met, Like yeah, 109 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 3: exactly exactly. Like if you were getting married at twenty 110 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: three and to a thirty two year old, presumably met. 111 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Earlier earlier, like like like what would that be? 112 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: Twenty one and thirty? Yeah? Really just twenty one and thirty. 113 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: That's a lot. I mean that's if I were like, 114 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: as a twenty two year old, I would not look 115 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: at like a nineteen like you know, like I really wouldn't. 116 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: Look at an eighteen, nineteen year old exactly exactly right, Yeah, 117 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: I actually knew a couple that was twenty and like 118 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: thirty basically yeah, and like everyone like no one said anything, 119 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: And I. 120 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: Was like, is because you can't really say anything? Yeah, 121 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: like you know, everyone's like, oh, it's like I'm an adult. 122 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: But it's like I kind of dropped the fuelers out 123 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: to the group. 124 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. It was actually a company for Yeah, yeah, it 125 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: was that a woman was not working for the company. 126 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: Okay, it was like they were both in the company. 127 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was this whole thing. There was like 128 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: a they they like owned this like giant building. It 129 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: was like a coworking space, and so there was like 130 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: a lot of like different people and friends around, but 131 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: she was not working for the company. And then he 132 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: was my coworker. Yeah, I was friends with the woman 133 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: and obviously co worker's friends and he was he was yeah, yeah, yeah, 134 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: one of those. But let's this age difference. Turns out now, 135 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: now I hadn't caught him up to speed on the 136 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: party yet because there wasn't much to report. 137 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: He's so freaking lame, just like I'm not right, it's 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: just okay, okay. 139 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: But when he returned, we were chatting and I told 140 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: him about the party. He looked confused, but said nothing else. 141 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: That evening. The next day, I got a message from 142 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: Marra asking to meet up to talk about something something 143 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: something conspiracy theory. Yeah, what are we thinking of? 144 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: I mean if if we're really getting super crazy. 145 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: Here ma Wejis toldmar what that he thought the party 146 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: was lame. 147 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, that makes sense, should make sense, 148 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: goes home to fiance and she's like, this party was okay. 149 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: And so he goes tomorrow and he's like, Hey, your 150 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: party sucks. 151 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Which like like like uh kind of like mean for 152 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: op to be saying this about the party, but also, uh. 153 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: Dude, like come on, keep that to yourself, buddy. 154 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Fill that to her friends. That's not that's not the move. 155 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Bar revealed that James had given her a significant amount 156 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: of money over here ago. Whoa, I was wrong, But that's. 157 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: Why he was quiet, because he he was like, oh 158 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: my god, oh my god. 159 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: If you put I see you in the comments, if 160 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: you're my brain is just connecting all the dots. Oh 161 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: my god. 162 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: Was connected editors to make magic. 163 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: With the intention that it was to be used to 164 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: pay for a bachelorette party. 165 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: Yauza. 166 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: For a hot second, I thought that was going to 167 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: be like that the fiance had like an affair or 168 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: something of Mars and paid her off. Yeah, but it 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: was for they. 170 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: Were keeping. 171 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: It would have been enough to pay for the entire 172 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: bridal party to do a week long vacation out of town, 173 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: including airfare, hotel, food, drinks and fun. Eight people, eight 174 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: two way plane tickets, hotels, food and. 175 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: What does this guy do? 176 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: You're looking for? 177 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: Looking for a third in your marriage? 178 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting this type of event. A weekend downtown 179 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: would have been wonderful. And even though the party at 180 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: her home wasn't what I had hoped for, Yeah, tell 181 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: us how you really feel. I was fine with it 182 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: because I got to be with all of my friends. 183 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: She instead, okay, didn't foils back. Didn't foils back, Sophia, 184 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: What do you think? She instead used the money for, Oh. 185 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. Rent went She went on a vacation 186 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: by herself to the Bahamas. That's smart. Had like a 187 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: like because if you could have it, my conspiracy. 188 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Don't want a conspiracy today. If you could have eight 189 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: people on a luxury vacation, imagine the vacation you could 190 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: take for one. 191 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like some like blowout bash for what, let's find out. 192 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: She instead used the money to pay off credit card debt. 193 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: And hoped that no one would notice. I would no 194 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: one notice. That's insanity. Oh my god? How much? How 195 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: much credit card debt? Because okay, so, so we're assuming 196 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: that this is like a week and away for eight people. 197 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: How much do we reasonably think that could be? I mean, 198 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: so eight plane tickets, eight plan Oh, so it's plain 199 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: they're traveling somewhere. 200 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: She was in her breakdown of like what James said, 201 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: could have done eight plane tickets to a like you know, 202 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: destination vacation. Yeah, lodging for all of them, so probably 203 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: not all staying in one one room, like probably maybe 204 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: like four. 205 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: Rooms at least at least for two to per room. 206 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: So for a weekend week, a week, seven days, seven days, 207 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: let's say that it's Hawaii. 208 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: Eight Yeah, Hawaii eight grand at least for plane tickets, 209 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: at least at least eight grand. Another, I mean what 210 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: ten plus grand? Yeah, fifteen grand. 211 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're somewhere in the range of eighteen grand. 212 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: More than eighteen grand. 213 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely sure, that's crazy. 214 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: I told her I needed some time to process and 215 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: went home. Oh so she did confess, right, Riley. Okay, okay, 216 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: so she did confess. 217 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: She got caught. Yeah, James, Hey, where did the money go? 218 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean at least we've seen some crazy stories 219 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: where people just fervently deny it. Yeah, it was just 220 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: the most crazy olympic of logic. So at least she 221 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: at last you did that. But like, come on, After 222 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: talking with my fiance James about it, I decided that 223 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: the best action would be to remove her from the wedding. 224 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: And remember this is the maid of honor. Yeah, this 225 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: isn't just like yeah, well. 226 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: They're not even gonna make her Maybe they are going 227 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: to make her pay. Yeah, but that's like that's such 228 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: like a like the client. That's such a light Yeah, 229 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: I mean like sure, yeah, she's still like over aging 230 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: grand from you, like even if it was ten grand, 231 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: even if it was ten grand, even if I was 232 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 3: like buys two thousand dollars, truly thousand dollars, like I'm 233 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: going to lower maybe back, Like what are we doing here? 234 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: That is what's the isn't there like a minimum amount 235 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: like that becomes what's the word like where. 236 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: You could bring into court or something? 237 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 238 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah. 239 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: Because like did we find out that from there was 240 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: like another bike story where someone stole a bike and 241 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: it was like just over the amount where they could. 242 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like small claims court, it could be 243 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: like this might be insane, but I feel like I've 244 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: heard twenty dollars or something. Yeah, could that's kind of insane. 245 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: But the maximum amount that could be that could be 246 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: claimed in small claims court in California. Yeah, what's the 247 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: minimum in small claims? 248 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, go as low as you want, buddy. 249 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: We can go over ten. It would be not small 250 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: that small claims you're you're into. I guess a more 251 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: higher jurisdiction or whatever. Yeah, big, big court, Yes, isn't 252 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: there big? 253 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: Yes? Wow? 254 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean seer Yeah. 255 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: Sue her? No, that's that's not okay. 256 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: Come on, actually put in the comments below. 257 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: Would you would you sue your best friend? Presumably best friend? 258 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: Yes? This is made of honor for like over eighteen 259 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: grand come on, now, come on. I came to this 260 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: decision removing her from the wedding because I don't feel 261 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: I can trust her and don't want her to be 262 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: standing next to me at my wedding. I mean yeah, like, yeah, 263 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: and what else, that's the question. I slept on it 264 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: overnight and sent her a text saying this on Monday. Yeah, 265 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's a media for me. 266 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah you can't. You can't. I'm like, no, sorry, you 267 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: stole my money. 268 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on. And and also we don't know yet 269 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: what kind I mean. We can kind of assume that 270 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: the fiance is like pretty well off if you can 271 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: just drop that to the friend for the bachelor party. 272 00:14:53,960 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: But still like, like people you know, work and put 273 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: in time and effort for that amount, and like it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, 274 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: even if they're super wealthy, Like it's like, that's not cool. 275 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: Since then, I have been getting text from her mom 276 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: and boyfriend telling me how awful I am for doing 277 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: this since I didn't need a big party and Marrow 278 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: was able to financially benefit. 279 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: WHOA, that's crazy. These heads. Oh my god, they were 280 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: in on it. They were in on it. I bet 281 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: she was like, Hey, I got this money and I'm 282 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: throwing a party, and but should I keep it? And 283 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: they were like yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe they were the 284 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: ones that pushed her over the line, like yeah, do it, 285 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: do it. 286 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Maybe they even gave her the idea in the first place, 287 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: and she was like, oh. 288 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like, what if you just threw like 289 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: a you know, small thing. 290 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: And just like paid off for your credit card debt? 291 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: Like he already he already gave you the money, it's 292 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: already gone. 293 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: What is he going to do about it? Yeah, oh 294 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: he won't even know. 295 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: We'll just we'll just pack eight people into your townhouse 296 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: and eat pizzas. 297 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: And maybe maybe they wouldn't have cared about it if 298 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: the party was better. True, he keeps me through a 299 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: better party, it wouldn't have been as. 300 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: Big I was. I was Loki trying to think of like, 301 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: what could you do that seems really fancy? 302 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: But actually yeah, it's like actually low cost. But also, 303 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: how did like fiance find out about this until laught? 304 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: Because I guess because of the surprise nature of it. 305 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: The fiance was also But. 306 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: I guess those fiances maybe don't. 307 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: I know, you're making a good point, because like it's 308 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: not just that like, oh, I could totally see you 309 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: being like, oh, hey, fiance, what is she like? 310 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: What are some cool is there anything you want to see? 311 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: But way more way more than that, he gave her 312 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: the money for it, so you think that. 313 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: He'd be like, hey, what were the costs, like could 314 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: I get an idemized bill? 315 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, or like it sounds like he kind of just 316 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: which Loki, kind of. 317 00:16:59,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: Taking the money. 318 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Here's here's all this money. 319 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: My name, you'll do something with it. I'm sure. 320 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah that's British. Yeah yeah, he's we've decided now British. 321 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: He's British. Yeah that's crazy. Yeah, that's insane. Wow. 322 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: My my own mom is also against removing her from 323 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: the wedding, as she is like a sister to our 324 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: family and it would be tragic for me to get 325 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: married without mar there. 326 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, what what is this? What steals your money? 327 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: I feel like that's okay. 328 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: Guys where like and none of them are none of 329 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: them were suggesting like, oh she could pay you back 330 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: there just like oh just let us lie. 331 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: I have said that, Like not even Op has been like, hey, 332 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: pay me back. I don't. 333 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: I really hope there's an update, please, please God, somebody 334 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the bridal party is split four people. 335 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: You need better friends. 336 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we need to honestly divorce all of your 337 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: friends and you get. 338 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: Rid of them. Oh my god, it's for the ones 339 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: who are on your side, because it seems like some 340 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: of them, aren't for real? 341 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: Half of them are saying I shouldn't have kicked her out, 342 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: and the other half are agreeing with me. Mara has 343 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: called me crying because she already has her dress. 344 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: Okay, well you have the money. 345 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: Then, James and I paid for all the dresses. 346 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: And also she had extra money. 347 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: And she can't wear it anywhere else. 348 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: Too bad. 349 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: She's crying because the dress you bought for her she 350 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: can't wear it. 351 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: What? What are you taught? 352 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: What about crying for being sorry for stealing over eighteen 353 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: grand from your best friend? What someone who is allegedly 354 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: like a sister to. 355 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: You allegedly all this is crazy? This woman is horrible. Oh, Mara, 356 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: I don't like you. 357 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: No me either. At this point, I want a wedding 358 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: to be over with so I could be on my 359 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: honeymoon and not have to deal with these people. Can 360 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: you imagine You're like, I just want my wedding to 361 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: be over with. 362 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like I'm just imagining being like going to 363 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 3: my family and friends and being like, hey, like this 364 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: person my friend stole money from me, and you know, 365 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: I don't really want them in this part, and they're like, no, 366 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: it's fine. Keep them in. But also they don't have 367 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: to pay you back. 368 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: Not crazy, not like, hey, can I help you, like 369 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, figure out getting the money back or 370 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: maybe chip in a little bit. 371 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, is there a way we can make you, 372 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: you know, give you another bachelor party? So it's like 373 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: something anything, anything. 374 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: And anything nothing? And now what's just so tragic to me? 375 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: Is I mean like this is the one, this is 376 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, this is the day for her and 377 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: now she literally like basically sounds like she doesn't even 378 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: want to do it. 379 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been ruined. 380 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: Which is so tragic. 381 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sorry, hop hope we feel for you. 382 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm hoping for Jess. Just later on, justs so, 383 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: was my action too extreme? 384 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: Am I? Ahole? 385 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: Okay, we have some some relevant comments, but Sophia, please 386 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: please take it away. 387 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't know. Wow. Oh how could anyone? 388 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: How could anyone think that? Ops a hole? I don't understand. 389 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: This is insane. 390 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: I don't get it. 391 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Righty, you have a very passionate family. How do you 392 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: think if you were in this situation, how would your 393 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: family react? 394 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: Dang, because get pretty spicy, right, It's like my like 395 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: my boy, my brother would be like, so, let's say 396 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: here's the scenario I get with my Malibu cougar and 397 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: he is, you know, my what your best man? And 398 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: she gives Tate like some money and it's like, hey, 399 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: make sure he has a good time with In the 400 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: back of my head of what my bachelor party. Oh 401 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: so we wanted to be top notch, okay, low key? 402 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: If I I wouldn't be mad if I still had 403 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: a great time and he still got some financial benefit 404 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: out of it because he planned it, like he's low 405 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: key becoming a contractor for it. 406 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: Great. 407 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: But if that had a bad time and that's okay, yeah, 408 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: I would be pretty pissed. Honestly though, wouldn't remove them 409 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: from the party though, because he's my brother and like 410 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: everyone would be like like, yeah, he did you wrong, 411 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: but like he can now feed his four children. 412 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: Is this your actual brother? Yeah? Okay, that's different. Yeah, 413 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: actual blood brother is. 414 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: But if like my buddy Rex, yeah for example, damn 415 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: puff right. 416 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Actually, when you put it in context, if of 417 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: your like that is a little tough. 418 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: I honestly probably wouldn't I still have him the. 419 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: Would you try to get the money back though, or like, 420 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: like try to work out a plan to get some 421 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: money back. 422 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: No, I'm good, Like, we're good, We're fine. 423 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: Cougar's your application for highly comics. 424 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: No, No, I wouldn't. I would be pissed out. 425 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm on the wedding, but I wouldn't, like, 426 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't try to get the money back because I 427 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: just probably distanced myself after that. But shoot, he'd be 428 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: in the photos and just in myself. 429 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: So so literally you're sitting down with your future children 430 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: and you're showing them the photos. There he is right 431 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: next to you because he's the best man. He's making 432 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: the speech at your wedding. Like, yeah, if he was sorry, 433 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: I still don't have it. 434 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: But if he's not, i'd have I'd be like you 435 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: have to go. Yeah, worst case scenario, he's gone, yeah, yeah, 436 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: it was my buddy best man, I. 437 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Will say, kind of putting it in context, it does 438 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: kind of like if the fiance is like a multi millionaire, 439 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: it is like awful, but I guess it doesn't actually 440 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: like hurt or ruin them. But if this was something 441 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: that you've been saving up for. 442 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: Well, but it seems like it seems like because no 443 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 3: one is even saying like, hey, pay the money back. 444 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like it's a financial thing. 445 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is just like a. 446 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: Bad friendship, man. 447 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: And that's the thing is like it's a trust. Yeah, 448 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: you've broken the trust. 449 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: Like I can't imagine any of my friends doing that, 450 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 3: and so if they did, I'd be like, wow, that 451 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: you're not my friend, right, who are you? 452 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, finances aside, You've just the friendship. It's ruined. It's ruined. 453 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: But let's get into some relevant comments here. So do 454 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: people not realize. 455 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: That she stole your fiance's money. 456 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, people realize it, but the prevailing sentiment is in 457 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: the case of my bridal party, they don't particularly care. 458 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: And my mom feels it's okay because it got her 459 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: out of debt. 460 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: Ask if she needed to get out of debt, ask yes, 461 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: ask for help, like, okay, can I have a loan? 462 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if James is like well off and you 463 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: really are like great friends, Like, ah, I don't know. Uh, 464 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: my mom is just disregarding the entire situation because she 465 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: cares about Mara, what about her own daughters? 466 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: Doesn't really get Yeah, it doesn't care about you. 467 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: Apparently literally, she obviously knew it was wrong because she 468 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: told you out of guilt. She didn't tell me out 469 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: of guilt. No, after he my fiance found out what 470 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: my bachelor party was, my fiance told are either she 471 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: needed to sit down and tell me or he would. 472 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was confronted. 473 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have done so much worse if he 474 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: did it, because he's not hold back. Yeah, and they like, hey, 475 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: this is what I mean. He'd probably be nice, but 476 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: he'd probably be like, this is what happened. 477 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, here's and I told her to tell you 478 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: and she wouldn't even do it. 479 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 480 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: Oh, depending on the amount, you could totally press charges. 481 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 482 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: Neither me nor James are interested in dragging this out 483 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: in court or pressing charges. Oh okay, he didn't. He 484 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't have given her more money for a bachelorette than 485 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: he could afford. And this situation is not worth the 486 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: amount of emotional turmoil that it would put everyone involved through. 487 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: We've got enough backlash from removing her from the wedding, 488 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: So again, I think this kind of leans towards Beyonce 489 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: doing pretty good financially. On who paid for the bachelorette 490 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: that did happen. I didn't pay for anything other than 491 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: some drinks I had delivered because there wasn't anything to 492 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: drink on Friday night, get ready for this. But everything 493 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: else was split seven ways. 494 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: What so literally mar didn't even dish out a little 495 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: bit of it. 496 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: She dished out one seven, one seventh of her party 497 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: at her house. 498 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 499 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: Which it sounds like she didn't even have like anything 500 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: prepared for no like no, no drinks on the first night. Games, 501 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: So she had board games that she already had. She 502 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: already had those board games that she probably paid for 503 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: with her credit cards that she had to pay off. 504 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like this is a household investment. 505 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: God, the ones that flew in paid for their own flights. 506 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: And the bombshell, the exact amount stolen twenty five thousand dollars. 507 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: That's twenty five thousand dollars. 508 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god, that's insane. 509 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: I thought it was crazy at like ten ten, eighteen thousand, 510 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 3: might be a little bit over, like a little bit 511 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: of an exaggeration. Twenty five thousand dollars and they're not 512 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: pressing charges. 513 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: And everyone's letting her off the. 514 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: Oh, everyone's letting her off the hug That is like, 515 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: this is shocking. That's close. 516 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: That's approaching the like median American wage like thirty eight 517 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: or something like that. 518 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: Like how much people make in a year. 519 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: Literally, like my god, and she just stole it. 520 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, like that would be like and I worked at Starbucks, 521 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: Like if I worked for a whole year, someone stole 522 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: my income, yep, could you imagine I would be I 523 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 3: would never I would. 524 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: Never forgive them. 525 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: I would never forgive them. 526 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: That's insane, that's crazy. Are you guys insanely rich? How 527 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: do you brush off twenty five k? Yeah a good question. 528 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: My fiance makes significantly more money than me and my friends, 529 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: as well as our parent families do. 530 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, it's apparent that they they seem to 531 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: come from like wealthy families. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that's 532 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: still not okay. 533 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: God, did you tell the others how much she stole? 534 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: Good point, yeah, because that could have helped them too. 535 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: I haven't disclosed the amount to anyone yet. 536 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: Tell them, Yeah, it's the truth. Yeah, you can be like, hey, 537 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 3: they'll be like, oh, she doesn't like you know, it's 538 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: just a little money, and you're like, no, it's twenty 539 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: five okay, Like come on five. 540 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm probably going to send a text out tonight 541 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: with that information great and stating that anyone who feels 542 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: she was still justified is free to not attend Saturday 543 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: or moment. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go. 544 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: Why in the world did your fiance give her that 545 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: money a year ago? I think he gave it to 546 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: her under the assumption that a week long party would 547 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: take a while to plan. 548 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: That's true, because I was gonna say, like, twenty five 549 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: thousand dollars, you're getting flights and booking flights a year 550 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: in advance is like, you know important, Yes, yeah, that's 551 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 3: what I did for my flights when I went traveling 552 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 3: this summer. Yeah, it was like a year in advance 553 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: or like or maybe it was six months. It's like 554 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: there's a certain amount of. 555 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: Time significant and plus like we assume that Ma has 556 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: a full time job, but maybe your full time job 557 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: is just taking from her friend's bachelort of parties. 558 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: We don't know. 559 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: We don't have the answer answer stealing from people, and 560 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: that she could and that she could start booking things 561 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: that may have limited space, as well as dispersing the 562 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: money to coordinate flight so that's another point too. It's 563 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: like maybe because they're calling up people, they're going for 564 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: like all time dream bachelorette destination, so it's like, hey, 565 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: book it now because it might be so popular. 566 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also making sure that people are free that 567 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: you know weak. 568 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah true if you're not working. Was just thinking ahead, 569 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 1: like let me be super practive. So she has all 570 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: the time she needs, yeah, to make the dream bachelorette parady, 571 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: But also is still kind of weird that he didn't 572 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: do any coordination. 573 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: I would personally, I would have checked in about twenty 574 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: five thousand. 575 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, like hey, how's it going? 576 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: If I gave someone like two hundred dollars and be like, hey, 577 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: how's it going? 578 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 579 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: What you doing with it? Kennedy airbn emails? You can 580 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 3: tell me. 581 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: She is a person who has been in my life 582 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: since I was eighteen, which literally not five years. 583 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: Kids, that's I'm like, what kind of that was she 584 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: in me? Five years? And like the mom's like she's 585 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: like a sister to you. 586 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: Come on, come on, you must say. She must have 587 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: had a lot of friends okay growing up. 588 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: But like who care? She steals from her friends. That's 589 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: why she has no friends I'm really close to, like 590 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: friends that I've made in college that I've known for 591 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: maybe a couple of years, but like they're not like 592 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: my parents wouldn't consider it like them sisters. 593 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a great. 594 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: That's a great, Like my friends who my parents would 595 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: consider sisters, who I've known for a very long time, 596 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: but like considered like parents considering. 597 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: And then siding with them over yet with them over 598 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: you after like knowing each other since just since college, Yeah, 599 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: like four or five years. 600 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: And they probably haven't seen her that Like, they probably 601 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: didn't see her that much of those first few years. 602 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: They probably saw more yeah later, This is crazy suspicious 603 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: and Mara typically comes over to our house at least 604 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: once a week. 605 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: Okay, but still still. 606 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: My fiance considered her a close and trusted friend as well. 607 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: Now that the amount is out, most comments agree with 608 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: press charges. Like us, it's technically my fiance's money, even 609 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: if it was for what was supposed to be a 610 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: gift for me. He's leaving it up to me if 611 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: I want to press charges, and he has let me 612 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: know that he will support me with whatever route I 613 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: choose to go, which I mean, that's a good that's 614 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: the very kind kind thing of the fiance to do, 615 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: and still kind of in shock and obviously upset, so 616 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: pressing charges or taking her to civil court is the 617 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: last thing on my mind. He does have a text 618 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: exchange confirming that she received it and what it was for, 619 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: and she has sent me things confirming that she used 620 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: it to pay off debt, and her mom and boyfriend 621 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: have as well. 622 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: Well. The chain the paper seats three seats. 623 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll change my mind later on, but right now 624 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: I just want to get married and get away from 625 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: the drama, which I can kind of understand with that, 626 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: like deal with the mess later after enjoying the wedding. 627 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: I get that. Did her mom and boyfriend tell you 628 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: that they just sent text confirming that's what she used 629 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: it for? As far as I know, she's the only 630 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: one who used it. And we have a big old 631 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: juice update. 632 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: Oh I hope it's stay suitor. Please wait, went on 633 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: a really nice honeymoon and then they came back. 634 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: And do you what do you think? What do you 635 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: think it's going to be? 636 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: Okay? I think they had a lovely honeymoon. Yes, oh wait, 637 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: but they probably talk about the wedding b I think 638 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: she They didn't invite her to the wedding. Yeah, she 639 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: showed up anyway. Ooh, that's a good one. 640 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: What do I think? I'm I'm gonna go real oral curveball. 641 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: They re invited her to the wedding. I'm gonna go 642 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: super curveball. Okay, let's see what happens onto the updates. 643 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: Hey read it. 644 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm here to post an update from my original post. 645 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: First of all, thank you all for being so nice 646 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: on my previous post. I know this is delayed, but 647 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: I hope it answers any lingering questions you may have, 648 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: and I was somewhat waiting to have an update that 649 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: would answer those questions. So we know we got some 650 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: juice in here. I had no idea my previous post 651 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: would get so much attention and so many people would 652 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: be interested to answer the most pressing question. 653 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: I removed my maid of honor from. 654 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: My wedding and disinvited those who continue to support her 655 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: after I shared the amount that she stole. Yeah great, yeah, 656 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: get him out. This is your special day. 657 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: This is your special day, and people who are okay 658 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: with people stealing twenty five thousand also don't deserve to 659 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: be there. 660 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: Correct, This is for you. You get to invite who you want. 661 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: My husband and I had a lovely wedding and honeymoon 662 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: and when we got back in contact with his lawyer 663 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: to begin compiling information and. 664 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: Prepare to file a civil suit. Baby, let's go as 665 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: you should, as you should. 666 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: As you should. This is still in the early stages, 667 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: but as so many of you did point out, we 668 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: do have a responsibility to ensure that she faces some 669 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: kind of consequence to prevent this from happening to someone else. Yeah, 670 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: we didn't even mention that that is a great point. 671 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: I did not mention that. 672 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: While we won't be pressing criminal charges, we will cooperate 673 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: with law enforcement should the district attorney wished to bring 674 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: charges after information is brought forth in our civil suits. 675 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: I honestly don't think my ex friend has money to 676 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: repay us, but we will be donating anything that we 677 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: receive from the trial. I'll try to respond to comments 678 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: below and see if there are any other. 679 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: Wait donating to like charity. 680 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like it these people, I mean super. 681 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna see, like, if we get the money back 682 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 3: from the lawsuits, we'll give it away. 683 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: I think I think they're basically just like, we just 684 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: kind of need to teach her a lesson. You can't just. 685 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 3: Do this, Yeah, no, you absolutely can't. And I think 686 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: that's I think I'm starting to understand obviously it's not 687 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: a can't, but I'm starting to understand why all these 688 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: extra family and friends are like, oh, well, you have 689 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: all this money, so they're just like kind of taking advantage. 690 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like, oh, it doesn't ultimately hurt you, 691 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: like it was totally I mean Op basically said that like, hey, 692 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: he didn't give me any money. 693 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 3: That was too much, Yeah, which, but yeah, the problem 694 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: is not like that the money. I guess for them, 695 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: it's just the lack of trust. 696 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: The lack of trust and betrayal. And also like remember 697 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: when she called crying saying that she didn't have anywhere 698 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: to wear her dress. It's like that's crazy, how how 699 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: like inconsiderate? Yeah, and like unempathetic? Are you? Oh like 700 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: I oh my god, Like not only did you steal 701 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: this money, but probably for Op most importantly, she kind 702 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: of like almost ruined the wedding. 703 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, which really, I mean, yeah. 704 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: Worth more than the money, like your special day marrying 705 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: the person you love. Also, Beyonce made it out clear. 706 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 3: We kept her eye on him, but he did good. 707 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah had return. So yeah, yeah, I'll let you off 708 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 3: this time. 709 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: I guess we'll let you off this time, Buddah Riley 710 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: did we did we? So we asked about the scenario. 711 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: But what about what? 712 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: What? What? 713 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: What does the Riley bachelor party look like? Okay, story time, 714 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: let's get it. 715 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: Am I getting married like tomorrow, married in two years, 716 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 2: two years with the current friends that I have. Here's 717 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: who's the one team? John, You're coming, Sam's coming, my 718 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 2: boy Rex is coming, and my brother takes coming and then. 719 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: Me let's go. 720 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: Everyone gets to Tuesday night. 721 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 3: I guess, okay party, this is the letter. 722 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: He's like, damn, hang out with my wife. I heard that. 723 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: I don't want to be at your bachelor I don't 724 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: even want to go. I don't want to be there. 725 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: Okay, night one. Everyone gets here. Tuesday night, we got 726 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: in the hotel. We hang out. Wednesday, we hang out 727 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: in l A. We play a pickup game of basketball. 728 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 2: I just want to play a pickup games. When to 729 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 2: ride on the bikes in the beach. 730 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: Whatever. 731 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: Everybody gets here, they stay here Wednesday night. Thursday morning, 732 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 2: we get up super early. We had canyon, we camp, 733 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: we go see it, we camp, We have a good 734 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: time at the fireplace, and then after that we get 735 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 2: up the next morning, hit a flag Staff. We could 736 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: either get a hotel room or camp if it's a 737 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: cool place. See the Grand Canyon, and then hang out 738 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: flag Staff, hit a couple of bars, playpool. I definitely 739 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: want to play pool at some point and then head 740 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 2: back hit up Joshua Tree, camp there for a night, 741 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 2: playpool again that night, have some good stories, and then 742 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: head back. Maybe hit up Vegas just for Gigston giggles 743 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: yea on the way there. But that's that's the move. 744 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: That's the move. 745 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: I definitely want to play basketball player. That's I love that. 746 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: That is also such a Riley bachelor party too, Like 747 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: I want to play basketball National Parks. Dude's awesome. 748 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing't like too crazy. I don't want like a 749 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: strip club. 750 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: Or like, no, I just think I think we've talked 751 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: about this before, but having like a strip club as 752 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 3: a bachelor bachelorette party before like getting just being in 753 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 3: a relationship. 754 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're literally like yeah, Like the only scenario is 755 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: like both parties are like attending to there or it's 756 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: like very very clearly communicated. But yeah, you both so 757 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: like wrong like go to a strip club or something 758 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: like before right before you get married, you get married, 759 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I just. 760 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 3: Hate the idea of like it's the last night of freedom. 761 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 3: What still you're not being not like you're free, like 762 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 3: this is you chose this. The relationship is exactly the same. 763 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 3: It's just like legal, you signed a paper. Yeah. 764 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: We had this one story once where the husband so 765 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: like the husband and wife they commonly went to strip 766 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: clubs together, so it's like normal that it was part 767 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: of their relationship. And he he went like a few 768 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: days before their wedding, and then the husband like met 769 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: some stripper and then he was it's like, oh, hey, 770 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 1: can she like join our wedding. And then he kept 771 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: like like increasing it more and more to like he 772 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: basically wanted a threesome with with the stripper. He was 773 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: like trying to like slowly but surely like build his 774 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: like first invite to the wedding, then make her a bride. 775 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 3: Oh my god, like like four days before the. 776 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: Wedding, this like random stripper, My god, Yeah that's crazy. 777 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yikes, yikes. 778 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: Classic okop. But speaking of classic okop, Sofia, I. 779 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 3: Got another story. Am I the a hole for getting 780 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: married on November the eleventh after my sister said it 781 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 3: was her date? This is okayop, home of the craziest 782 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 3: true stories on Earth. I'm Sophia and John is op 783 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: the a hole. 784 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, if your friend's like, yo, I'm 785 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: gonna have the greatest wedding, it's going to be on 786 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: November eleven, and then they're like, yeah, you just gave. 787 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 3: Me a gamember. Yeah, and the essay you don't say, 788 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 3: I think, I think not the a whole. I don't 789 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 3: know if you I mean, I guest, I guess it's 790 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 3: I guess you need to know if they knew before well, 791 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: if it was like and if they were like consciously 792 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: like I like that day. Yeah, it's a solid day. 793 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: Also, I'm wondering if because we've you know, we see 794 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: these plot twists all the time where the title is like, oh, 795 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: actually there's a total plot twist to it. Uh, is 796 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: it the same day like many years later? Yeah, And 797 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: she's like, oh, there could only be one like November 798 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: eleventh anniversary. 799 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm going to go that. 800 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to go, not the a whole. Yeah, it's 801 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: a plot twist. 802 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think not the ahole it so see my 803 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 3: cologist nine seven fifteen says I, thirty three female, am 804 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: getting married soon. On January first of this year, I 805 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: announced to my mother and sister thirty seven female the 806 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 3: date of my wedding, eleven eleven. I wanted a fall wedding, 807 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 3: the leaves to be changing and to be cool outside. 808 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 3: We chose November. With the holidays and whatnot, there were 809 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 3: only two Saturdays in November that made sense. Fiance chose 810 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 3: the eleventh because it's indicative of our dating anniversary. So 811 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 3: it was decided eleven eleven. I announced the date to 812 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 3: my family. My siss became upset, What do you why 813 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 3: do you think eleven eleven is important? Which is crazy? 814 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 3: For why eleven eleven is important to this? 815 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like because originally we were like, oh, 816 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: is the wedding literally on the same day? 817 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought like that they got married, like his 818 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: sister had the same anniversary something. 819 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So like if it's well, I'm saying, like literally 820 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: the two wedding ceremonies at the same exact day, that 821 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: is like, oh you're you're a maniac. 822 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: Like. 823 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: But if it's if it's something like the anniversary, which 824 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm guessing it is like come on. 825 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, well number one, there's there's actually hold on, 826 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 3: let me see. There's three reasons. Ooh, okay, since number 827 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 3: one her favorite band sings a song that's called eleven eleven, 828 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 3: so she has a tattooed on her Number two, she 829 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 3: was engaged to some guy like fifteen years ago. They 830 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 3: didn't get married, but they were supposed to get married 831 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 3: on eleven eleven. I had completely forgotten Number three. It's 832 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 3: a week before her wedding anniversary. She was upset because 833 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 3: eleven eleven is her thing, and it felt like a 834 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 3: slap in the face that I would get married a 835 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 3: week before she did years ago. My sis and I 836 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 3: have a tumultuous relationship. The last fight we got into 837 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 3: was at my birthday two years ago. We had discussed 838 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 3: having a family dinner. I ended up inviting some friends. 839 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 3: Fiance wanted it to be special, and about ten to 840 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 3: eleven people ended up being there. Sister was pissed because 841 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 3: if she had known there were going to be other 842 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 3: people there. She wouldn't have come because she didn't feel well. 843 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 3: I told her she was never obligated to come, and 844 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 3: I didn't think I needed to make her aware of 845 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 3: the guest list. Anyway, we ended up not talking for 846 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 3: a while. But because my sister is stubbor, she has 847 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 3: never apologized, doesn't take blame. I eventually just let it 848 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 3: go to appease my mother. So when I found out 849 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 3: she was pissed about the date I chose for my wedding, 850 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't having it. I worked really hard the last 851 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 3: several years to establish boundaries with family and friends and 852 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 3: to not be steamrles. I was hurt my sister made 853 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 3: my wedding about her. She told me that I took 854 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 3: her thing and as a result, she wasn't going to 855 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 3: be in the country for my wedding. She booked a trip. 856 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 3: It's now been ten months. That's crazy. It's been ten 857 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 3: months since they've interacted. 858 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I thought. I thought she left the country 859 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: ten months and it was still like, you. 860 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 3: Want to get married a living the country. 861 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: Oh. 862 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 3: I think it's to my knowledge from the way that 863 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 3: this is worded, I think it's just been ten months 864 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: since they've interacted. 865 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: They spoke, yes, so she's probably telling her like. 866 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 3: She booked the trip for the wedding, right yeah, wow, 867 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 3: I mean, how narcissistic and just like like how ye 868 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 3: kidding me? Like all the only thing that's tying her 869 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 3: to this date is that sure the band has a 870 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 3: song called eleven eleven. 871 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: Which, if anything, you're like, oh, that's so funny and 872 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: so cool. 873 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 3: The second one is that she was supposed to be 874 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 3: married to someone on eleven eleven but didn't get married 875 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 3: fifteen years ago. Fifteen years ago, and that I think 876 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 3: that's it. I think that's it. 877 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 2: Let it go, like even though it's tattooed on her, 878 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,439 Speaker 2: like that's kind of a good thing, Like, oh, it's 879 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 2: my sister's wedding and the band and she could just 880 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: pick whatever she wanted to be imagine the. 881 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 3: Speech, Yeah, like what's so crazy? Yeah, years ago, I've 882 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 3: always known that this man was right for my sister. 883 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 3: How cool it Like literally that'd be such a cool Yeah, 884 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: you suck, sister, sister. Let me tell you something. Her 885 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 3: and I have had limited interaction. My mom says, to 886 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 3: start the conversation with my sister and to let things 887 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: go because we all know how your sister can be. 888 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh, we don't know how your sister is 889 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: an asshole, so let's let's appease. 890 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 3: Her like these. Oh we all know your sister sucks. 891 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 3: How about me? Mom? Wedding mom said I should have 892 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 3: asked my sisters first if it was okay to choose 893 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 3: that day, and I could have approached the subject delicately. 894 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 3: But she forgot do you forkidd we like rightly? So 895 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,479 Speaker 3: she forgot that the day had any importance fifteen years ago. 896 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 3: That's how was she supposed to know? How is she 897 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 3: supposed to know? That's crazy? Oh, that's crazy. This was 898 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 3: mind blowing to me because my mother and I have 899 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 3: to walk on egg shells with my sister. Over the year, 900 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 3: they've discussed how I could have done things different differently, 901 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 3: or why it couldn't have been this day or that day. 902 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: My wedding is two weeks away and my sister and 903 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 3: I haven't talked. I didn't send her an invite because 904 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 3: she has not apologized and already said she wouldn't be going. 905 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 3: No reason to have to initiate the combo, like always 906 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 3: strengthening the pattern of letting her get her away. It 907 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 3: has been heartbreaking to not have my sister there for 908 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 3: my activities, and it hurts to know that her pride 909 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: got in the way of spending time with me. But 910 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 3: for once in my life, I want to stand strong 911 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 3: and say I deserve better. 912 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes better, so happy, Yes, I agree this 913 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: yeah done? 914 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 3: When it is OPI the a whole. 915 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: My god resounding absolutely not. 916 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the commenters agree that was the verdict. 917 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, surprise, shocking, Oh god, it's just 918 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: so insane these people that just like make it all 919 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: about them, But honestly, low Ki almost crazier is the 920 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: other people around them. 921 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 3: Who let it happen. 922 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: Let it happen, Like this is your so you're you're 923 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: you're truly picking one daughter of the other. This is 924 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: your one of your daughter's weddings, and the other daughter 925 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: is being a freaking idiot and is using the dumbest 926 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: reasons ever. Like I think she's just like, I just 927 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 1: don't want you to be happy. 928 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 3: Basically, it seems like you just mean. 929 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: What if she just changes it and then she's like, oh, hey, 930 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: I I had a doctor's appointment on atment. 931 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 3: It actually means a lot to me. 932 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't move. I love I love my doctor 933 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 1: more than He's like, oh what if we did. 934 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 3: Like March third? And she's like, oh, well, you know 935 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 3: I got a dog that day. What are you? 936 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? 937 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 3: Sorry, just find another one. 938 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: No, yeah, line is here. 939 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 3: There are some relevant comments. It's careful now, says not 940 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 3: the a hole. But what is your mom going to do? 941 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 3: She clearly favors stompy sister. 942 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: Stompy sister? 943 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 3: Is she going to ruin your wedding too? She's already 944 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 3: doing a good job in the run up to it. 945 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 3: Who are all the people giving you whoop? I would 946 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 3: be having thoughts about how involved I would want them 947 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 3: in my life going forward? Me too? So are your 948 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 3: wedding is being marred like this? Op? He says. My 949 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,439 Speaker 3: mother and I have a sordid relationship. She's not great 950 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 3: about respecting my boundaries. But when I spoke to her 951 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: last week she did that. I'm sorry, I'm a terrible mother. 952 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 3: Bit Oh that's warming hat yikes. And then there's also 953 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: an update. Oh this is November twentieth update. The day 954 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 3: before my wedding, Friday the tenth, my mother came over 955 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 3: to my house to help me put some last minute 956 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 3: things together. She texted my sister when she arrived, saying, 957 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 3: just got to your sisters. Talk to you later. My 958 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 3: sister responded with have fun and followed it up with 959 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 3: another text saying dumb wedding. Yikes, yikes are I can't? 960 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god? What kind of text chain is this 961 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 3: come on? Coincidentally, my mother was showing me something on 962 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 3: her phone when my sister texted that. Sister tried to 963 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 3: immediately delete, which is something I guess iPhones can do 964 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: to each other. I give my mom back her phone 965 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 3: and at this point, I'm so angry I cannot sit. 966 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 3: I'm pacing around the house since the dumb wedding message 967 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 3: had disappeared. My mother almost didn't believe it happened. She 968 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 3: texted my sister and asked if she did that. Sister 969 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 3: admitted it. Mother asked why she would say something like 970 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 3: that and that I saw it. My sister's response was, well, well, well, 971 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 3: then wanted to know how I saw it. My anger 972 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 3: had turned into sadness and I started crying. I told 973 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 3: my mother that it was be asked to be treated 974 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 3: this way by my sister, who is close to forty. 975 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 3: That is too old to be acting like this. Stupid. 976 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 3: My mother told my sister. I was very upset and 977 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 3: said to us, stop acting silly. That's not silly, that's silly. Silly. 978 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 3: The entire day I spent in a funk. Years of 979 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 3: trauma and abuse make me susceptible to other people's emotions 980 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 3: and thoughts, and I have a hard time snapping out 981 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 3: of it. Not just family, but a horribly aft up 982 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 3: first marriage. I'm also trying to rack my brain and 983 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 3: figure out genuinely why I deserve this. You don't know. 984 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 3: At one point, we were at the venue with my 985 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 3: mother in law, who asked me what was wrong. My 986 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 3: mother interrupted and said I was tired, and winked at me. Wits, 987 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 3: stop wigs. That's not like a oh we have a 988 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 3: little inside joke. She's just tired. You know, when your 989 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 3: sister is ruining your relationship, that's crazy. Wow. Later I 990 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,240 Speaker 3: told my mother in law the truth. I'm not ashamed 991 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 3: or embarrassed, and I'm not going to lie to protect 992 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 3: my sister. When my mother and sister spoke later that night, 993 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 3: my sister tried to change her story. She said that 994 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 3: I took it the wrong way, and she meant expensive 995 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 3: weddings are dumb, which also isn't like your thing to 996 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 3: comment on either, literally, bop, But she has no idea 997 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 3: how much money I've spent on the wedding or any 998 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 3: of the details. And come on, if that's what she meant, 999 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 3: she would have clarified immediately. Yeah, my mother seemed to 1000 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 3: sort of believe her bs excuse wedding dan came. Never 1001 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,439 Speaker 3: heard from my sister and she was on her trip. 1002 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 3: I guess the wedding was gorgeous, and I'm honestly relieved 1003 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 3: she wasn't there. Extended family came into town, and my 1004 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 3: sister's scheduled dinner with them the day before the wedding 1005 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 3: to make sure she could see them, which annoyed me. 1006 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 2: I have a question, Yeah, as a sister is on 1007 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 2: the trip, what do you think she's telling everybody she's 1008 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 2: on the trip for, Like, oh, why are you out 1009 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 2: here in Yeah? 1010 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 3: Like why are your sister's wedding? 1011 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Like what brought you to the UK? Is she 1012 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: seeing family that they have. 1013 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 2: In this foreign country or I'm just saying, what excuse 1014 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 2: is the sister saying? Like, people are like, why are 1015 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 2: you traveling? And she's like to escape from my sister's wedding. Oh, 1016 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 2: it has such a burden on me. Like, yeah, what's 1017 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 2: her excuse? You know what I'm saying. 1018 00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: She tells them like, up, look even she she took it, 1019 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: she took it from me. 1020 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 3: She's like, can you imagine this horrible thing that my 1021 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:06,919 Speaker 3: sister did? 1022 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: Did you imagine being in Like you're on your you're 1023 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: on your trip. Yeah, you're in London. Yeah, right, I'm 1024 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: in London and then you you meet up with someone 1025 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: with a cool tattoo. 1026 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's a cool tattoo. And they're like, oh, 1027 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 3: don't get me started. 1028 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. 1029 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 3: I got a store and to tell you. Yeah, I 1030 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 3: would not talk to that person. Yeah, there are some 1031 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 3: relevant comments. Commentator asks if Op has been in therapy 1032 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 3: to deal with the trauma and abuse she experienced. Op says, 1033 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 3: I am in therapy. Yes, I've been in CBT on 1034 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 3: and off for almost a decade, but half of that 1035 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 3: I was with my abuser. That's it, that's it, that's it. Well, 1036 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 3: I'm glad that your wedding was good. Yeah, I mean 1037 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 3: I thought that your sister wasn't there. 1038 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: Low key is silver lining because, like I feel like 1039 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: it would have been horrendously worse if the sister was there. Yea, 1040 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 1: so I read it all. 1041 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 3: About her shot up in a wedding dress and gotten 1042 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 3: married with elevens all yeah, yeah, elevens and she would 1043 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 3: have like done that thing where people propose at other 1044 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,240 Speaker 3: people's weddings. That's crazy. 1045 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 1: We've read many stories. 1046 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 3: Oh there's something I'm uncovering something here. 1047 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the people that propose at other people's weddings. 1048 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 3: It is literally, unfortunately a thing that's so weird. 1049 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: It is just my. 1050 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 3: Boggling. You would you would think people would get it, 1051 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 3: but they don't. 1052 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: They don't, they don't. Here's my question to you both, 1053 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 1: what do you think Op should do? So we're post wedding, Yes, 1054 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: what does Op do about this relationship with his sister? 1055 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: She just straight up go no contact? Or like, what 1056 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: do we do here? 1057 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I just can't because I have a 1058 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 3: good relationship with Sam. I can't imagine like so hard 1059 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 3: contact with siblings. But it seems like they don't have 1060 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 3: a good relationship. So's yeah, not like I mean, it's 1061 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,399 Speaker 3: it seems like it is weighing heavily on Op. Yeah, 1062 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 3: seems like they are saddened by it. But yeah, if 1063 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 3: they're not going to be a good presence in your 1064 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 3: life and they're you know, the the reason one of 1065 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 3: the reasons you're going to therapy, yes, yeah, big protein. 1066 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be pretty sad. What oh what should 1067 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 2: they do? 1068 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? 1069 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean if she seems like you gotta 1070 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 2: be on eggshells this whole way the whole time being 1071 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 2: around her and she's gonna act like this about your wedding, 1072 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 2: hate to be this way, but it's probably best just 1073 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 2: to go non contact, no contact and not interact with 1074 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 2: She's not gonna change. They go no contact with. 1075 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: Her, and there's also no there's like kind of two 1076 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: no contacts. There's like I'm not going to be proactive 1077 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: in being the old like a one sided thing of 1078 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: trying to build a relations and ship and like make 1079 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: things right. And if they reach out, you know, maybe 1080 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,399 Speaker 1: I'll be cordial with them, but like and then there's 1081 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,439 Speaker 1: just like blocking never you know, talking to them again. 1082 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: I I I'm kind of with Sophia, like it's just 1083 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: like so so hard, but also we have such a 1084 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: different relationship with our siblings than than op does. But 1085 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: it's still like so hard for me to imagine, just 1086 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: like totally cutting off my my sister. But yeah, Lorraine, 1087 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: Laurenn Loron, is that what you're trying to do. 1088 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 2: I was just mispronounce your herd name. 1089 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: Wow, goes some respect. Do you call uh so Baya? 1090 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 1: Do you call Sophia Sop Sop? That is that is true? 1091 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,879 Speaker 1: I have heard him say that that is true. 1092 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 3: Test. 1093 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: But I I wonder I kind of have a suspicion 1094 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: that maybe op has already we be as OPI said, like, oh, 1095 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: I've like tried to deal with this before. I wonder 1096 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: if OPI's been and tried to create boundaries. I wonder 1097 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: if OPIS had already said hey, like you need to 1098 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 1: stop doing this stuff, and the sister kind of keeps 1099 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: doing it. So I feel like I would maybe at 1100 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: least take a take a break at a minimum and 1101 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: go on a ten month chip yeah, leave the country 1102 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 1: and abandon her