1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 1: Welcome and as verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: with you as well, and Senator A mountain of evidence 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: against the Biden crime family is really starting to mount up. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: But it's actually not pressure on the president or his 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: family or Hunter Biden. It's on the Attorney General Merrick Garland. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: He was testifying before Congress on the latest on the 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: impeachment inquiry, and your overall reaction I want to get 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: because I was shocked, not really by his arrogance as time, 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: by his I would say, lack of just candid answers 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: to basic questions that were asked of him. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: Were you shocked by his demeanor? 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: You know? 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: Unfortunately I wasn't. Merrick Garland, from the day he was 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: sworn in, has demonstrated a contempt for Congress, a contempt 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: for the American people, a smug entitlement that no one 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: is allowed to question him, that he doesn't have to 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: answer any questions. I have questioned Merrick Garland now many 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: times and he will not answer. He will not give 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 4: you a straight answer to anything. And so as the 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: evidence keeps mounting, not just of Joe Biden's personal corruption, 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: but of Merrick Garland being personally implicated now in multiple felonies, 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 4: he has not wavered at all from his attitude that 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: seems to say, how dare you question me? He is, 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: He's the legal equivalent of Anthony Fauci. Fauci says, I 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 4: am the science. Merrick Garland's response is essentially, I am 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 4: the law, and they're both wrong. 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: I want to play a few quips that really went viral, 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: and they went viral because of just the shock of 29 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: the lack of response and, like you said, the arrogance 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: of Garland. One of them was just a basic question 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: talking about, hey, what did you know and when did 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: you kind of know it? 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 2: Take a listen. 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 5: Have you had personal contact with anyone at FBI headquarters 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 5: about the hunter by an investigation? 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: Really don't. 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 3: I don't recollect the answer to that question. But the 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: FBI works for the Justice Department. 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: It's I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you don't recollect. You don't 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: recollect whether. 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 5: You've talked with anybody at FBI headquarters about an investigation 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 5: of the President's son. 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 6: I don't believe that I did. 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: I promised the Senate when I came before it for 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: confirmation that I would leave mister Weiss in place, and 46 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: then I would not interfere with his investigation. Okay, did 47 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 3: you have ever I have kept that promise? All right? 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: Do you believe him, Senator, because I don't. 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 4: Well, the I R S whistleblowers both testified to the 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: House that that that he lied when when he made 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: that promise to the Senate, when he made that promise 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: to me. In my questioning, we have now two careers 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 4: or I R S employees who had gone before the 54 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: House and said that he flat out lied, that he 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: has directly interfered. And I got to say the question 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: here this is very specific. Have you had personal contact 57 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: with anyone at FBI headquarters about the Hunter Biden case? 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: And for him to say, well, I don't remember. How 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 4: do you not remember that? This isn't asking generally. Have 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 4: you talked to FBI headquarters? Of course he has, as 61 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: he says, and in his answer, the FBI works for 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 4: the Justice Department. So yes, the Attorney General has talked 63 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: to FBI headquarters. But if he is recusing himself from 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: the matter, if he is not interfering, then he would 65 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: know whether or not he had had those conversations. And 66 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: the fact that he doesn't remember with the entirety of 67 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: the evidence is highly dubious. 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: There is also another congresswoman who asked a question of Garlands. 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: He was testifying by the House Judiciary, said committee hearing, 70 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: and I want you to hear what she had to say. 71 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: It was a lengthy back and forth, but it was 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: an important one as well. And I say important because 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: it was the accusation that Merrick Garland basically is not 74 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: acting on behalf of the American people, or on behalf 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: of the law of the laws of this country, or 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: making sure these laws are being followed, but instead he's 77 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: basically working as a defense lawyer for the Biden crime 78 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: family by purposely slow walking the probes into the Clintons. 79 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: And this is something we haven't talked about in a while. 80 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: But also into Hunter Biden, also into Joe Biden, also 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: into the FBI's involvement in things like January sixth. It's 82 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: like he's in a personal attorney for anyone of the 83 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: Democratic Party that does something that's nefarious. 84 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 7: Second, my town FBI phone numbers all over the district. 85 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 7: Please call that. People are truly afraid. I just want 86 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 7: to make sure if you're not aware, is that you are, 87 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 7: and this is a big problem. People are afraid of 88 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 7: their own government. And I'll share some other things. We're 89 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 7: talking about justice system. 90 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: I don't question you. 91 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 7: Probably not a bad person. I don't know you, but 92 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 7: well i'll tell you you're in charge of the department and 93 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 7: people right now feel you know. I'll look at Durham 94 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 7: report and I call on the fights of relations of 95 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 7: querious of millions Americans. Right, it's like KGB. But when 96 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 7: I read Durham reports, we have this, you have a nice, 97 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 7: you know, playbook. First, let's have a special council and 98 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 7: then you don't have to answer any questions here. 99 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: Then let's extend slow. 100 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 7: Walk investigation on Hillary Clinton, on Hunter ever see a 101 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 7: slow walk? We were all very quick on Donald Trump, 102 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 7: but you are very slow walk. Then by the time 103 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 7: you know that investigation and its statute of limitation expired 104 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 7: and all of your agents need to be tested from mesia, 105 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 7: and no one recalls anything. Okay, you probably should have 106 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 7: as part of your hiring policy, so no one held accountable, 107 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 7: which was agreed. What happened you know in that report? 108 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 7: When I read about them, I. 109 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: Can't believe it happened in the United States. 110 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 6: Of America. 111 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 2: This is my frustration. 112 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 6: I'll be honest with you. Then it's very interesting. 113 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 7: You know, regardless what it is. Even people in Obama 114 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 7: administration raise concerns, you know, how can president sons be 115 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 7: serving on you know, corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs. Do you understand 116 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 7: that it actually can undermine the one Ukrainian effort and policy. 117 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 7: I think those concerns were raised above. Administration didn't do 118 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 7: anything about it. These people are dying right now, and 119 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 7: Americans don't trust this president. 120 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: So you I want to ask you. 121 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 7: One thing, you know, as you you know, I don't 122 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 7: need answer because I know you're not going to but 123 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 7: I think you're probably got American and you care. And 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 7: a lot of these people are so afraid they cover 125 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 7: up this stuff, I think in your department because they're 126 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 7: embarrassed that what we became as a country to say 127 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 7: that what our department is justice became that allows Russians 128 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 7: to do proper and then Chinese it allows them to 129 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 7: destabilize our country. That is danger to our republic. It 130 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 7: is significant danger. And I have just one more question 131 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 7: from you. You know, I mean I agree on corporate 132 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 7: crimes and vices stuff even with Democrats that we need 133 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 7: to do a better job. One more questions for you. 134 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: Do you believe that. 135 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 7: You know you talk about rights to vote, but do 136 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 7: you believe that only you as citizens should be voting 137 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 7: in this election and doing anything to make sure that 138 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 7: only eligible people. 139 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 6: Vote in elections? 140 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: Yes? 141 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 7: And yes, okay, I would like to see that what 142 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 7: you do? 143 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: Thank you? 144 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: Nilt I play that because I feel like this is 145 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: the level of frustration and anger that so many Americans 146 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: have that this congresswoman, Missus Sparks displayed there. She's livid 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: over the way that this man's doing his job, almost 148 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: the point of like, how the hell can you live 149 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: with yourself? And how are you getting away with this? 150 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: And this is where I think many Americans are at 151 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: this point. 152 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: Well, you're right, that's very powerful. That's Victoria Sparts. She 153 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: is a congresswoman from the state of Indiana. And Victoria 154 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: was born in the Soviet Union, and she grew up 155 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 4: in the Soviet Union, and so she saw a communist dictatorship. 156 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: She saw when she's referencing the KGB, she's familiar with 157 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: what the KGB would do. And Victoria came to America 158 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: when she was twenty two years old, and so she 159 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: came to America seeking freedom, seeking a better life. And 160 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: the outrage that she's expressing there that how can it 161 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: be that the US Department of Justice is behaving like 162 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: the KGB did? That is from personal experience, from life experience. 163 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: She's seen oppression firsthand. And notice Garland doesn't respond at 164 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: all to any of what she said there. He just 165 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: sits there passively, which frankly is what I guess the 166 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: KGB would do as well. Now I guess they would 167 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 4: actually arrest her for saying that. So it's still marginally better. 168 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, the points she 169 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: made are fundamentally the same. The slow walking. Look, they 170 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: just brought charges against Hunter Biden for buying a gun 171 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 4: illegally when he was on crack. They've had the evidence 172 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: of that for years. There's been no new evidence on that. 173 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 4: They could have brought that years ago. What they did, though, 174 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 4: was slow walk the investigation so that the statute of 175 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: limitations now has expired on the most serious tax offenses. 176 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 4: They've allowed that statute limitation to expire. The statute of 177 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: limitations has now expired on Joe Biden's corruption with communist China. 178 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: The text app the text on WhatsApp that Hunter sent 179 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: to the Chinese Communist officials saying, I'm sitting next to 180 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: my father. 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For example, you know, he's 225 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 8: the head of the Department of Justice. The Attorney General 226 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 8: he sees, you know, hundreds thousands of people, you know, 227 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 8: were some of them FBI agents. He doesn't. He made 228 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 8: it very clear he has had no direction towards the 229 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 8: Special counsel on the Biden investigations, completely hands off. 230 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: This is Congresswoman Lofgren. She just made that up. That's 231 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: not what Merre Garland said. In response, he said he 232 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: didn't know. He couldn't remember it right, He said, I 233 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: don't think I have. So she's out there and even 234 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Burnette, I give her some credit. She's like like, 235 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: come on, like you can't even be happy with his 236 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: answering here, and she immediately goes into spend modes as well. 237 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: I can totally kind of understand why and how. It's like, 238 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? 239 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: Well? The Democrats have talking points, and every Democrat reads 240 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: from the same talking points, and they're willing to lie. 241 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: We see Kareem John Pierre do that almost on a 242 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: daily basis, just stand up there and brazenly lie. It's 243 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: like when she stood at the White House podium and 244 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: said people aren't just walking across the border. That doesn't happen. 245 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: That was a flat out lie. I guarantee you it 246 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: is happening right now. And by the way, whatever time 247 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: you happen to have downloaded this podcast and played it, 248 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 4: it's happening right now. Whether you're listening to it early 249 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 4: in the morning, you're listening to it at lunchtime, you're 250 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: listening to it as you drive home in the evening, 251 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: you're listening to it at two in the morning, it's 252 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: happening right now. Someone's coming across the border when you 253 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: have seven point two million people cross in two and 254 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 4: a half years. She's lying literally every minute of every day. 255 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 4: And they do the same thing on Hunter Biden, on 256 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 4: Joe Biden, on the evidence of corruption. They just stick 257 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 4: to their talking points and they count on the press 258 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: not to hold them account. 259 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that were brought up with Garlin, 260 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: and it's outside of just the Biden crime family. One 261 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: of them is a contentious point that I think should 262 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: be an election your issue. I'm talking about the presidential 263 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: election year, and this is the fact that you had 264 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: an FBI that put out that infamous school board memo 265 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: targeting parents and treating them like Al Qaeda, just like 266 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: they are terrorists, like Al Kaita, calling them domestic terrorists. 267 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: And there was a back and forth about this as well. 268 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to people to listen to what Kevin Kylie 269 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: had to say in this back and forth. 270 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 9: Are you aware that directory a couple months ago and 271 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 9: sworn testimony implicated you in a sweeping abuse of power. 272 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: I doubt he would characterize whatever whatever he said in 273 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: that way. 274 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 9: Well, he testified about the school board memo that you 275 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 9: issued on October fourth of twenty twenty one, in which 276 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 9: you mobilized federal law enforcement powers against American parents. Now, 277 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 9: of course you didn't put it quite like that. Instead, 278 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 9: you found a pretext, which is stated right here in 279 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 9: the first line of the memo. In recent months, there 280 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 9: has been a disturbing spike in harassment, intimidation, and threats 281 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 9: of violence against school administrators, board members, teachers, and staff. 282 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 9: What was your basis for making that claim? 283 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: I will say, again, as I've testified numerous times, in 284 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: response to exactly the same question that I saw numerous 285 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: reports in the press of violence and threats. 286 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 9: You saw reports in the press, and so you decided 287 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 9: to instigate a nationwide law enforcement initiative. 288 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: If I may be permitted to answer the question, please, 289 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: numerous reports in the media of violence and threats of 290 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: violence against school personnel of all kinds. 291 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: By the way, can we just stop there at that 292 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: lie centator, there were not wide ranging mass reports of 293 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: violence against school board members. That is a lie from 294 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: the Attorney jo on the Unit States America, Merrick Garland, 295 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: that was not happening in this country when they decided 296 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: to go after parents and declare that they're domestic terrorists. 297 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Can we all agree that that's a lie. 298 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: Well, not only is it a lie, it's a lie 299 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: that he's been caught on before, because when I cross 300 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: examined him in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee on 301 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: exactly this topic, and I pulled up the memo that 302 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: he wrote that there were twenty different instances that were 303 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: cited in the letter from the National Association of School Boards. 304 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: That was the entire predicate for his memo. That's what 305 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: he based it on, is the memo that he'd gotten 306 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: and they cited twenty different instances, and I asked him, 307 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: I said, of the twenty, how many were violent? He said, 308 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. I said, did you examine any of them? 309 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 7: No? 310 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: Did you look into whether they were violent or not? 311 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: No. 312 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: One of them was Scott Smith, the father in Loudon 313 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: County whose daughter was sexually assaulted by a boy dressed 314 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: as a girl in a skirt in the girl's bathroom. 315 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 4: And Scott Smith was wrongfully arrested by the school board 316 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 4: because when the school board covered it up, they went 317 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: after the parent instead of defending and protecting the child. 318 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: And by the way, they transferred that sexual predator to 319 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: another high school where he sexually assaulted another little girl. 320 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: He's now a convicted sex offender because he kept on 321 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: doing it. And Garland's answer to me, he admitted he 322 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: had no idea which ones were violent, which ones were not. 323 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 4: He didn't examine it, He did no due diligence whatsoever. 324 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: He simply said, I want to go after the parents. 325 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 4: And so what he just repeated to the house is 326 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: repeating the same lies. He has no idea what violence 327 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: occurred or not. That was just a pretext to go 328 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: after parents because he didn't like them expressing their First 329 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: Amendment rights. 330 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: And then listen, he gets even more irritated that he's 331 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: having to answer this question. 332 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 6: Did you consult with the FBI director? 333 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 3: We received a letter from the National Association of school 334 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: Boards reporting. 335 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 9: Yes, that letter contained anecdotes, it didn't contain data of 336 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 9: an increase. Did you, yes or no, consult with the 337 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 9: FBI director before issuing the memo? 338 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 3: I don't believe I spoke with the FBI director. 339 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 6: No. Why not? Why wouldn't you consult with the FBI. 340 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: Director Because the purpose of the memo, as is very 341 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: clear from the memo, is to ask the FBI to 342 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: assess the situation, to hold meetings, and to determine whether. 343 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 6: It's attorney general. 344 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 9: You started with a conclusion that there was an increase 345 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 9: in threats. Now, if you had bothered to consult with 346 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 9: the FBI director, here's what he would have said. This 347 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 9: is from his swoln testimony that he was not aware 348 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 9: of any such evidence. So my question to you, sir, 349 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 9: sitting here today, is can you substantiate your claim that 350 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 9: there was an increase? Of course, there will always be 351 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 9: criminal sporadic criminal activity in all quarters of society. But 352 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 9: your claim was there was an increase. Can you substantiate 353 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 9: that sitting here today, I. 354 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: Can substantiate that by the reports in the press of 355 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: violence and threats of violence, and by the letter sent 356 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 3: by representatives of that's a no. 357 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 9: You're giving us anecdotes. I'm asking you if you had data. 358 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 9: You also said in your memo that you were committed 359 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 9: to using the department's authority and resources to discourage these threats, 360 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 9: identify them, when did they occur, and prosecute them when appropriate. 361 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 6: Were there any such prosecutions? 362 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: The emphasis should be there on when appropriate, and there 363 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: were no such prosecutions, and that's good news, not badness. 364 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 9: There were no prosecutions, and in fact Director Ray said 365 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 9: there were no arrests, there were no charges, So you 366 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 9: have no data to show us that there was any 367 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 9: You didn't even bother to consult with the FBI director, 368 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 9: and then there were no resulting prosecutions, even though you 369 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 9: said that they were coming. So I have to ask 370 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 9: you now in retrospect, was there a compelling law enforcement 371 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 9: justification for the memo. 372 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: I think you're mischaracterizing the memo. The question the purpose 373 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: of the memo. 374 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: By the way, how's he mischaracterizing the memo Senator. 375 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: Like he's describing it perfectly accurately. 376 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: It's accurate. 377 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: And I go back to how the hell does this 378 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: guy keep his job if he can come to before Congress, 379 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: whether it's on the House side of the sit side, 380 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: and just lie and make stuff up and then can't 381 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: answer a basic question is is there ever a day 382 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: where this Attorney General is going to be held accountable 383 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: for sitting there in this arrogant way, just straight applying 384 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: to people, even when the facts are in front of his. 385 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: Face, held accountable. He's doing exactly what Joe Biden and 386 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris want him to do. He is covering up 387 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: for Joe Biden, He's covering up for Democrats. He's weaponizing 388 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: the Department of Justice as he's weaponizing the FBI. That 389 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: there are several things that he said there so he 390 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 4: says no one's been prosecuted. What he didn't acknowledge is 391 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: the FBI has gone and interviewed multiple parents who exercised 392 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: their First Amendment rights, and they've been willing to be 393 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 4: used essentially to try to intimidate parents. I got to say, 394 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 4: if you're a mom or dad, and you go to 395 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 4: a school board and suddenly the g men are knocking 396 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: on your door because you expressed your First Amendment rights. 397 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 4: That is abuse of power. That is a chilling of 398 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 4: First Amendment rights. I hate to break it to Merrick Garland, 399 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 4: but moms and dads are not domestic terrorists. And by 400 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 4: the way he relies on well, I trusted the representatives 401 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 4: of the school boards, National Association of school Boards. You 402 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: know what Merrick Garland doesn't say. National Association of school 403 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: Boards apologized for sending the letters, said it was a 404 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 4: mistake and said what they said was wrong. Now he 405 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: doesn't mention that. But Merrick Garland has left this memo 406 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: in place that direction go target parents. It is operative. Today. 407 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: I forced a vote on the Senate floor to overturn 408 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 4: that direction, to say that the Senate does not want 409 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: parents treated as domestic terrorists. Every single Senate Democrat voted no. 410 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: Merrick Garland is doing precisely what the Democrats want. 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And every time 450 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: you use that cell phone, you know you're standing up 451 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: for the values that you believe in. There was also 452 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: another issue center that came up that I also thought 453 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: was very interesting with Garland, and that was a simple question, 454 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: are you looking in to who leaked the Hunter Biden 455 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: probe info to the Washington Post? Right, They've slow played 456 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: everything else. They protect the president all costs and his 457 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: non answer was to me one of the most disgusting 458 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: moments of the day. 459 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 10: Mister Garland, have have you or are you investing who 460 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 10: leaked the information that appeared in the Washington Post on 461 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 10: October sixth, twenty twenty two about this investigation about the 462 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 10: hunter By and investigation. 463 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: You're saying there was an October twenty twenty two. 464 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 10: October sixth, twenty twenty two, Washington Post writes a story 465 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 10: about the hunter By an investigation. I'm just I wonder 466 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 10: if you investigated who leaked that information to the Washington Post. 467 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that question. 468 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 10: Has it been referred to the Inspector General? 469 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 6: Do you know that? 470 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 3: I don't want my answer to suggest that there is 471 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: or isn't such an investigation. 472 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 6: I know that the. 473 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: That the Inspector General sent a letter to Congress explaining 474 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 3: that there was that he had an ongoing assessment with 475 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 3: respect to the whistleblower's charges. I don't know if that's 476 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: what you're referring to. 477 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: I mean, really, you don't know. 478 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: You don't know if you're investigating in a leak that 479 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: came from your department. 480 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: Do you believe him on that? 481 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 4: No, of course not now, look, he's a little bit 482 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: covering his own rear end because he's saying I think 483 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: he doesn't care. So do I believe that he doesn't know? 484 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: I guess in some sense. But there's a reason the 485 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 4: answer is no, there is no investigation. And the reason 486 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: the answer is no is because this Department of Justice 487 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: from the beginning has used leaks aggressively. They leak information 488 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 4: that is damaging to Donald Trump, they leak information that 489 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 4: is damaging to Republicans, and they cover it up. Remember 490 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 4: when they discovered classified documents the first time in one 491 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: of Joe Biden's homes. They discovered it before the twenty 492 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 4: twenty two election, and yet miraculously, the Apartment of Justice 493 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: was sealed tight as a drum. Nothing was leaked until 494 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 4: after election day. When they want to they can keep secrets, 495 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 4: but when it hurts their political opponents, they have the 496 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: press on speed dial. And so I believe the answer 497 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 4: is no, there is no investigation because the political superiors 498 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: were very happy with the leak, and they may have 499 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 4: been the ones who leaked it in the first place. 500 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: But his answer is a classic lawyer's dodge of well, 501 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if someone's investigating something, but 502 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 4: from his perspective, there ain't nothing to investigate. 503 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about ray Epps for a second and remind 504 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: people of ray Epps. You and I have talked about 505 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: this on the show before. It's something that came up 506 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: obviously with director, with the director, the FBI director, also 507 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: with the Attorney General Merrit Garland. But ray Epps out 508 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: of nowhere. Many people believe he was undercover. 509 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: FED. 510 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: There were people even chanting at January sixth, fed fed fed. 511 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: He was the guy telling people were going to storm 512 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: the place the night before, caught on tape. He's a 513 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: guy that was pushing on the barricades. He was a 514 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: guy that was encouraging people to break into the capitol 515 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: on January sixth, had not been charged with anything. Now 516 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: fast forward multiple years later, and we find out this 517 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: last week that yes, Ray Apps has now officially been 518 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: charged with a misdemeanor. Meanwhile, we're literally sending grandmothers to 519 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: prison that we're in and around January the sixth, rounding 520 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: up people all over the country. Even just days ago 521 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: we saw another person rounded up. We put some you know, 522 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: some different people in jail for decades now, for January 523 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: the sixth. But Ray Apps, who clearly was a ringleader 524 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: at least on the day before January sixth and January sixth, 525 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden gets a misdemeanor, and we still 526 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: can't get a straight answer from Merrick Garland. I want 527 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 1: you to hear Representative Thomas Massey and his back and 528 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: forth and then your reaction. 529 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 5: You're signing the constitution. I'm going to sign it. It's 530 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 5: our constitutional duty to do oversight. Now. In that video, 531 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 5: that was your answer to a question to me two 532 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 5: years ago when I said, how many agents are assets 533 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 5: of the government were present on January fifth and January 534 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 5: sixth and agitating in the crowd to go into the capitol, 535 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 5: and how many went into the capitol? 536 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 6: Can you answer that now? 537 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that question. 538 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 5: Oh last time. You don't know how many there were 539 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 5: or there were none. 540 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to either of those questions. 541 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: If there were any, I don't know how many. You've 542 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: know whether there are any. 543 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 5: I think you may have just perjured yourself that you 544 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 5: don't know that there were any. You want to say 545 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 5: that again, that you don't know that there were any. 546 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 3: No personal knowledge of this matter. I think what I 547 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 3: said the last time. 548 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: You've had two years to find out and the day, 549 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 5: by the way, that was in reference to Rey EPs, 550 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 5: and yesterday you indicted him. Isn't that a wonderful coincidence 551 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 5: on a misdemeanor. 552 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, you're sending Grandma's to prison. 553 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 5: You're putting people away for twenty years for merely filming. 554 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: Some people weren't even there yet. You got the guy 555 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: on video, he's saying, go into the capitol. 556 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 5: He's directing people to the capitol before the speech ends. 557 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: He's at the site of the first breach. 558 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: You've got all the goods on in ten videos, and 559 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 5: it's an indictment for a misdemeanor. The American public isn't 560 00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 5: buying it. 561 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: Yield to bounce of my time to Chairman Jordans. 562 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I answer the question. 563 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 6: I'm gonna ask you one now. We'll let the jump. 564 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. But in discovery, in the cases we're 565 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: filed with respect to January sixth, the Just Department prosecutors 566 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: provided whatever information they had about the question that you're asking. 567 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: With respect to mister Epps, the FBI has said that 568 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: he was not an employee or informant of the FBI. 569 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: Mister Epps has been charged and there's a proceeding I 570 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: believe going on today on that subject. 571 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 6: The charge is a joke, I yielded, Chairman. 572 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: I love the end there, the charge of the joke. 573 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: I yielded the Chairman. He's right about that, based on 574 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: everything we know about Ray Epp. So who is the guy? 575 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 4: Well, look, it's a very good question. And you see 576 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: the Attorney General once again dodging. And you know, one 577 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: of the most telling moments of that exchange is when 578 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: is when the when Merrick Garland says, well, I don't 579 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: even know if there were any FBI agents there, and 580 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: and and I think, uh, I think the point was 581 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: made quite accurately that what Merrick Garland said there was 582 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 4: almost certainly a deliberate lie. Look, an earlier Verdict we did, 583 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 4: actually before you and I teamed up, back when it 584 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 4: was Michael Knowles and me, we had an entire episode 585 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: of Verdict that was entitled who is Ray Epps? And 586 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 4: and you ought to go on YouTube and and it 587 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 4: was it was episode one oh four of Verdict, Who 588 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: is Ray Epps? And it followed questioning that I had 589 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 4: done in the Judiciary Committee of senior officials at the 590 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 4: Department of Justice and the FBI, where I asked them 591 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: who Rey Epps was and and if if he had been, 592 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: if he if he was an employee of the FBI, 593 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 4: if he was a confidential informant. They refused to answer, 594 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 4: the stonewalled. I asked the question, did you have agents there? 595 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 4: They refused to answer, or they stonewalled. I asked whether 596 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 4: federal agents incited violence? They refused to answer the stonewalled 597 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 4: And so this has been a pattern for a long time. 598 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 4: And now Merrick Garland is pleading ignorance that he has 599 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: no idea what the Department of Justice's involvement was in 600 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: incite violence or criminality. On January sixth, I can tell 601 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: you this is also in the wake of the Department 602 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 4: of Justice losing the case they brought against the individuals 603 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 4: that were charged with a plot to kidnap and murder 604 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: the Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. And the basis of their 605 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: losing was that the FBI had engaged in entrapment, that 606 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: they had incited the criminality. 607 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: And so can you explain a little bit more what 608 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: that means inciting criminality? 609 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: So people understand. 610 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 4: It, well, law enforcement can't entrap you into committing a crime. 611 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 4: In other words, if if the police send an undercover 612 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 4: agent to you and they say, hey, Ben, there's a 613 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 4: car parked on the street. It's got the keys in it, 614 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: why don't you steal that car? Come on, Ben, you 615 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: can do it. Just steal that car. Just hop in there, 616 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 4: turn the keys and take it. If they do that, 617 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: that's an example of entrapment where they're the ones, they're 618 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: the impetus, they're the genesis for the criminality. And you 619 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: might never have stolen the car otherwise if it were 620 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 4: not for the law enforcement officer who is prompting you 621 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: to do it. And so it's a defense that a 622 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: criminal defendant can give is Look, this was the government's idea. 623 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: They entrapped me into doing it. And the basis the 624 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 4: central defense of these defendants in Michigan was that undercover 625 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 4: informants for the FBI, they're the ones who had suggested 626 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 4: the plot, they're the ones who drove it forward. And 627 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 4: these guys were acquitted, the charges were thrown out. And 628 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: the fact that the Biden ds is caught with absolute 629 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 4: misconduct it is really stunning and of course, the corporate 630 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: the corrupt corporate media completely ignores it. 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And 635 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: the reason there's so much focus on rey Epps is 636 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 4: he was caught on tape repeatedly saying, let's go into 637 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: the capitol, not just up to the capital, into the capitol. 638 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: And there's one point where his behavior was so odd 639 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 4: that the entire crowd begins chanting fed, fed, Fed, fed, 640 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: and And so that's why I asked a senior leader 641 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 4: at the FBI if ray Epps was a FED, and 642 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: she refused to answer that question. Merrick Garland now is 643 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 4: pleading complete ignorance. 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Finally, 680 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: there was one part that I really thought wrapped up 681 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: just how bad uh this back and forth was this 682 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: testimony before Congress and the Justice Department oversight when Merrick 683 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: Garland has asked a pretty simple question, and that's, Hey, 684 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: why do you act like you're the president's lawyer. 685 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 2: That's not your job. 686 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 3: Our job is not to do what is politically convenient. 687 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 3: Our job is not to take orders from the President, 688 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 3: from Congress, or from anyone else about who or what 689 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: to criminally investigate. As the President himself has said, and 690 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 3: I reaffirmed today, I am not the president's lawyer. I 691 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: will add I am not Congress's prosecutor. The Justice Department 692 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: works for the American people. Our job is to follow 693 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: the facts and the law, and that is what we do. 694 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe him. I think he's a pathological liar 695 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: at this point. I don't think he can be trusted. 696 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: And I think he's weaponized a DOJ and turn it 697 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: into a weapon of the President of the United States 698 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: of America. No matter what he says with his rhetoric 699 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: there in those prescripted clear talking points, they knew this 700 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: was a problem for them, and so that's why they 701 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: had him say it this way. 702 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 4: Well, John Mitchell is rolling over in his grave. John 703 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 4: Mitchell was Richard Nixon's attorney general. He was indicted, he 704 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 4: was prosecuted, He served twenty two months in jail for 705 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 4: his corruption. And John Mitchell never dared be as brazen 706 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 4: as Merrick Garland. Merrick Garland look in The New York 707 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 4: Times reported that Joe Biden quote told confidence that he 708 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 4: wanted Attorney General Merrick Garland to stop acting like a 709 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 4: ponderous judge and to take decisive action. Joe Biden knew 710 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 4: exactly what he was getting with Merrick Garland. He was 711 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 4: getting someone willing to use the weaponry of the Department 712 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 4: of Justice to target his enemies and simultaneously willing to 713 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 4: do whatever is necessary to protect the President, to protect 714 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 4: Hunter Biden, to protect Democrats. And I will underscore again, 715 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 4: We've got multiple whistleblowers, career employees at the IRS who've 716 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 4: come forward, two different whistleblowers to say what Merrick Garland 717 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 4: just said there is flat out false because the Department 718 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 4: of Justice has consystematically obstructed justice, obstructed the investigation into 719 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 4: Hunter Biden, and especially into Joe Biden. And so he 720 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 4: can say over and over again, I'm not the president's lawyer, 721 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: and yet he behaves exactly like he's the president's lawyer. 722 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: Should this be an election year issue, just the way 723 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: that the DOJ has been weaponizing, specifically, should Republicans be 724 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: targeting Merrick Garland for the way he's acting. 725 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 4: The weaponization and politicization of the Department of Justice, of 726 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 4: the FBI, of the machinery of federal government, I think 727 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 4: is a major election issue, and it is a major 728 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 4: reason to throw these clowns out because it has done 729 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 4: more to undermine the rule of law than anything that 730 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 4: we have seen in decades. 731 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: If ever, don't forget that you can download Verdict three 732 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: days a week Monday, Wednesday, Friday's plus our weekend review 733 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: on Saturdays. 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