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Speaker 2: This is a good moms by choice. I'm Erica and
Speaker 2: I'm Nila, And what's up girl? It's on beautiful day
Speaker 2: in La. It is beautiful, really really nice. Lately. I
Speaker 2: know I'm going to the pool. It is my season.
Speaker 2: This is my season. I know I've been going to
Speaker 2: the gym because this season is coming and winter has
Speaker 2: been I've been chilling. Yeah, the summer's my time is shine. Well,
Speaker 2: you don't have any of those issues. You like a
Speaker 2: supermodel for I don't want to close. You don't even
Speaker 2: when it's cold. No, it's true. You own one sweater.
Speaker 2: I've seen it. It's that striped sweater. You own one.
Speaker 3: That's it. It's the only naeded sweater I own. It's true. Anyway,
Speaker 3: we have a special guest today, guys.
Speaker 2: We have my friend and makeup guru, makeup influencer Mama,
Speaker 2: and just overall the vast person grisel Da Martinez. Thank you.
Speaker 2: What's up girl? What's going on? If you guys are
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Speaker 2: I knew that it's weird. I just never said it
Speaker 2: out loud. I just never. I just never said it
Speaker 2: out loud. I'm like, wait, makeup, Yeah, make up, buy something?
Speaker 2: Makeup by what's her name?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 2: What's up? What's going on?
Speaker 5: Are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm good? Yeah, it's such a beautiful day. I know
Speaker 2: it is. I guess we can. I mean, first, first, first,
Speaker 2: and foremost I wanna talk about really quickly. Nipsy Nipsey
Speaker 2: hustle fucking when I heard about that news, Like when
Speaker 2: I remember like when they when someone said he'd been
Speaker 2: shot like six times. I hate to say it, but
Speaker 2: I kind of like, there's n he might not make it.
Speaker 2: Like I was just thinking he was gonna make it.
Speaker 2: I didn't think that unfortunately, like and then like moments later,
Speaker 2: it was just so it really like hit home for
Speaker 2: me actually, Like I think because I've met him a
Speaker 2: few times, maybe because my baby daddy's a rapper like
Speaker 2: all those things, and it's like a fear of mine.
Speaker 2: I've definitely like had the had that fear because he
Speaker 2: comes from, you know, that lifestyle, grew up that way,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's hard to depart from that, right,
Speaker 2: Like if anybody knows that has a has somebody who
Speaker 2: was like a former gang member, usually they're not really former.
Speaker 2: They always keep like one foot there, you know, even
Speaker 2: if they're not really partaking in like the activities, you know,
Speaker 2: and but that is dangerous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's fucking sad, man, It's so fucking sad.
Speaker 2: That shit broke my heart.
Speaker 6: Just the thought just I know which but she's probably going,
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, but to even slightly imagine I.
Speaker 2: Think now I think as I'm a mom, like I
Speaker 2: really the first thing I thought about was laur in
Speaker 2: London and then the baby was there.
Speaker 6: It's just yeah, it's just it's just a function, man,
Speaker 6: it's just unnecessary, dumb shit. That's like someone's life that
Speaker 6: affects so many people, you know, the kids, the kids, her,
Speaker 6: you know, his community.
Speaker 2: It's just fucked up in all the great things that
Speaker 2: he was doing right for the community.
Speaker 5: Like I was, you know, raised in Englandwood, and when
Speaker 5: I heard the news, I was like like I had
Speaker 5: no words, Like I had no emotion, Like I never
Speaker 5: met the guy, but it was like everything that he
Speaker 5: was doing for his people and just the impact that
Speaker 5: he had already done was incredible. So it was like,
Speaker 5: you know, thinking about the kids, thinking about Lauren, like
Speaker 5: I can only imagine what she's going through. Like the
Speaker 5: relationship that they had, I think was so transparent and
Speaker 5: you can see the love that they had for each other.
Speaker 5: And I think that that's.
Speaker 2: Why I was like, I think almost like the relationship
Speaker 2: they've kind of like been they're kind of like low key,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it doesn't wasn't until
Speaker 2: recently that I kind of started seeing them step out
Speaker 2: and like the public about their relationship. Everyone knows that
Speaker 2: Lauren Lyndon Nipsey hustle together and have a baby and
Speaker 2: all that shit, but like they were f kind of
Speaker 2: stepping out. They're both coming out, like he just got
Speaker 2: nominated for a Grammy, you know, she is like reviving
Speaker 2: her career. They're they're doing this together, and it's just like, man,
Speaker 2: it's so sad and I couldn't I couldn't stop thinking
Speaker 2: about like cud, Like how does she tell her baby?
Speaker 2: Will her baby remember him? You know, like the baby's
Speaker 2: like two years old? Probably not, you know. I mean
Speaker 2: she could keep him alive in in ways and always,
Speaker 2: you know, but it's just fucked up. It's so fucking sad, man.
Speaker 2: And like coming home to your house where you once
Speaker 2: yesterday you were with them your day when today is
Speaker 2: not here anymore. Yeah, Like ugh, I was just like
Speaker 2: unpacking all that shit. I'm just thinking about all the
Speaker 2: the steps that you don't even think about when you
Speaker 2: lose someone that close to you, right, like moving shit
Speaker 2: out of the closet, like just shit like that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like how do you get rid
Speaker 2: of things of someone that you never wanted to get
Speaker 2: rid of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yah, you know, like w I mean, I feel
Speaker 5: like it's it's gonna be a process. It's she probably
Speaker 5: won't do it until she's ready. I don't know, But
Speaker 5: when are you ever ready to do that?
Speaker 2: I just like, man, it's just so I just like
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking more about like our community. Like it's
Speaker 2: just like, man, we have some like the value of
Speaker 2: our lives is like we don't value our b like
Speaker 2: brothers and sisters'.
Speaker 6: Lives cause sometimes of people like because we don't value ourselves.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 6: When you don't value yourself, you don't value life period.
Speaker 6: That's that's true. And that's sa I mean, how like
Speaker 6: where is your mind that you didn't even think about
Speaker 6: that one time? How do you go through the motions
Speaker 6: of taking somebody's life and not really.
Speaker 2: Consider it's just pure r tago it's and hate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: cause like you would think, like, oh, Okay, if I
Speaker 2: do this, I'm gonna I'm going to murder as a
Speaker 2: big figure in the community who's connected in all ways
Speaker 2: gang ways, you know, celebrity people are gonna people I'm
Speaker 2: going to get caught, I'm going to probably die. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like maybe like you didn't think about that once
Speaker 2: you thought you were gonna kill him and then you out.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is even that is ego.
Speaker 6: I think sometimes people murderers kill high per I mean
Speaker 6: high profile people because they take some kind of.
Speaker 2: Pleasure in that. And you know, I I you know,
Speaker 2: I've watched the ID channel, but I mean there's that.
Speaker 2: But then, like when you kill someone who's so well loved,
Speaker 2: you don't think about like how that's going to affect
Speaker 2: you in prison because guess what. Nipsy for sure has
Speaker 2: homies in prison for sure, and they are going to
Speaker 2: fuck him up. It's just sad, even people that aren't
Speaker 2: his homie, people that just are like, yeah.
Speaker 6: It's just sad, and it's just it's such a sad,
Speaker 6: such a way, such a waste of life.
Speaker 2: It's just waste. It's so unnecessary, it's so fucked up,
Speaker 2: so damn. I mean, should rest in peace, Nipsty. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry that happened to you. I know, it's so bad.
Speaker 2: I had to touch on it cause I've been like so.
Speaker 6: Sad about it, and it really makes you value and
Speaker 6: not take it for granted, little things like you know,
Speaker 6: and of course it will last maybe a few days
Speaker 6: for us, cause something happens, and then it fades, not
Speaker 6: for her obviously months later, but like years, years, ever forever.
Speaker 6: That's the love of your life. You don't forget that shit.
Speaker 6: But also just like I I'm you leave somebody now for.
Speaker 2: The next you know, you're gonna be thinking about did
Speaker 2: I kiss you? Did I hug you? And I embrace
Speaker 2: you and I look at you?
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Cause sometimes you just go
Speaker 6: through the motions so often not valuing our friendships or
Speaker 6: our parents or family, our lovers, and just not noticing
Speaker 6: how much how much weight our words hold. And you know,
Speaker 6: we're saying that, we're communicating how we feel.
Speaker 2: It's just so quick, like I feel, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: like what everyone says never like you know, always say
Speaker 2: I love you even though you're angry. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 2: like and sometimes that's really hard, Like someone tell me,
Speaker 2: go to tell this person I love you. After like
Speaker 2: I've done curse them out, I'm go'na be like fuck you, right,
Speaker 2: but you look, but it makes you put them to
Speaker 2: put in perspective, like Okay, I'm I'm really don't fuck
Speaker 2: with you right now, but I love you goodbye, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. But anyway, that's all the current events
Speaker 2: I have, because that's really the only one that really
Speaker 2: matters right now. Everything else is I don't know it
Speaker 2: was anything else. I don't know any current events this Sorry, guys,
Speaker 2: there's a gardener half there's a gardening situation happening. I
Speaker 2: don't know. If you hear the windblower in the background.
Speaker 6: They must be gardening the shit out of that yard,
Speaker 6: blowing those leaves for about thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Anyway, could have said that, see, can you share with
Speaker 2: our fool listeners we've never had and am someone that
Speaker 2: you know? Firstly, like you know, I work in beauty
Speaker 2: with Beauty Blunder And that's actually how me and Griselda met.
Speaker 2: She came to a uh event that we had a
Speaker 2: few years ago at the Mandrion m and I remember
Speaker 2: seeing you and I was like, who is that sexy
Speaker 2: one man over there? You were talking to my mom
Speaker 2: and I came over and you were so sweet and
Speaker 2: we just like immediately hit it off. Yeah, and I think, oh,
Speaker 2: you invited me to it was like a tart event.
Speaker 2: We went to oh yeah, yeah yeah, and I think
Speaker 2: my outfit fell apart before I got to your house
Speaker 2: literally like yeah together, yeah, sh like my whole zipper.
Speaker 2: Like I was like gonna be naked. Yeah oh no,
Speaker 2: Adam Adam like he put a belt on me and
Speaker 2: he like fixed her up in seconds, and I was
Speaker 2: like like me and you're still coming. But you know,
Speaker 2: uh during that time, I was going through like a
Speaker 2: crazy time in my relationship with my with my baby daddy.
Speaker 2: He was in jail overseas at the time, and uh
Speaker 2: me was like I just I don't know, I just
Speaker 2: felt comfortable with you, and I just we just like
Speaker 2: started sharing things and opened up. I remember sitting at
Speaker 2: your house and we were just like it was like
Speaker 2: telling you all my shit, and I was like I
Speaker 2: love this, Like she just was. You just were so amazing.
Speaker 5: I felt the exact same way, and it was more
Speaker 5: so like because it was like so relatable, like you
Speaker 5: had been with you know, your son, I mean, your
Speaker 5: daughter's baby daddy or.
Speaker 2: Your baby daddy.
Speaker 5: I'm like my daughter's father, your daughter's father for so long,
Speaker 5: and you know I was with my son's dad.
Speaker 7: For you know, how long were you with him fourteen years.
Speaker 5: Yes, so it was you know something that we I
Speaker 5: felt that you know, being separated and being you know,
Speaker 5: a single parent.
Speaker 2: You know, you were he was overseas, you were here,
Speaker 2: and I know it was hard.
Speaker 5: So but I instantly felt the connection with you, and
Speaker 5: I was like, can we just be friends?
Speaker 2: And you know we've I feel like you and I
Speaker 2: always like pick.
Speaker 7: Up right where we left off.
Speaker 2: You know, No, it's not sure, it's just natural. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So so when you like, so when you speaking of
Speaker 2: your baby daddy and being with someone for fourteen years,
Speaker 2: because that's a really long time. My longest relationship is
Speaker 2: seven years. What's yours? Oh, yours is long too, Like
Speaker 2: I'm kind of low key on and off what like
Speaker 2: fifteen or some shit, But I know they took a
Speaker 2: long breaks. Yeah, like for the most part. Yeah, I've
Speaker 2: been my baby daddy for like fifteen years. I don't know. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I was like with him since I met him when
Speaker 2: I was fourteen? Did you lose your virginity to him? Uh?
Speaker 5: Huh?
Speaker 2: Because how how is your son now?
Speaker 7: He's in me thirteen? Okay, yeah, and we've been separated.
Speaker 2: For five six so is he You're only the only
Speaker 2: person you'd ever slept with for that whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh my god, girl for fourteen years. So fourteen it
Speaker 2: was crazy. You were kind of like starting new in
Speaker 2: your sex life. I mean fourteen six years year, but
Speaker 2: like fourteen when you went to like, if you don't
Speaker 2: mind like me asking when I lost my virginity. No,
Speaker 2: like we were like till you were like twenty something,
Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty eight, you only had sex with one person. Yeah, dang, girl,
Speaker 2: I know hopefully it was good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I was with them for fourteen years.
Speaker 5: I know that one, so that's all I knew.
Speaker 2: And like, I mean, but I mean like going now
Speaker 2: and like having experiences as an adult because I think
Speaker 2: about like the sex I was having as like a
Speaker 2: teenager versus I mean, I guess when you grow with someone,
Speaker 2: you grow, but like the sex I would. I actually
Speaker 2: went back and had like in a sexual encounter with
Speaker 2: someone that I slept with when I was in a
Speaker 2: teen that I thought was like the ship back then.
Speaker 2: I was like, that was so amazing, like the best
Speaker 2: I've ever had, And then you go back, you go
Speaker 2: back to that, I'm like, wait that, No, that was
Speaker 2: not that was not what I remember.
Speaker 8: Nothing, levels of knowledge I have not right, and you
Speaker 8: are the same, So like, were was that scary for
Speaker 8: you coming out of like a relationship and then like
Speaker 8: having to explore like being with someone else.
Speaker 2: Like how do you even know? I think I was ready?
Speaker 2: You're ready?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I was like so past that, like not
Speaker 5: wanting to be with him for so long that like
Speaker 5: I had already detached my emotion and my sexual emotion
Speaker 5: towards him that like I was just like I was
Speaker 5: definitely scared.
Speaker 2: Because I didn't know what size I was gonna get
Speaker 2: my next one. When the first time disappointing or was it?
Speaker 2: I was like, where has this been? Amazing? Yeah? But
Speaker 2: I took a two year break.
Speaker 5: So even after after I like you know, separated with
Speaker 5: my son's dad, and I was like, I'm not ready
Speaker 5: to like even think of being with another man because
Speaker 5: I needed to like yeah, like collect my thoughts and
Speaker 5: my feelings and emotions as being alone. Yeah a long time,
Speaker 5: and it was definitely like you know, happy times in
Speaker 5: set times of course, but like I was so attached
Speaker 5: to him and you know, being with him for so
Speaker 5: long that I was just kind of like do I
Speaker 5: want to.
Speaker 2: Be with him. You have to like that.
Speaker 6: Sometimes your identity becomes blended with somebody else's.
Speaker 2: It's just like a routine. It's a comfort level. How
Speaker 2: old How old were you when you had any anthony?
Speaker 2: I was twenty one, so you guys were already dating
Speaker 2: for what like six years? Seven years? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, so yeah, so when I met him, he actually
Speaker 5: I had a boyfriend at the time.
Speaker 7: I was going to summer school my first.
Speaker 2: Year when you were thirteen. When I was my friends
Speaker 2: had a boyfriend.
Speaker 5: Very say you know so, and he was like back then,
Speaker 5: he was like I saw you making with your.
Speaker 2: God yeah, Macie like that was that's how you know
Speaker 2: how they used to say that. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, they used to say like, let's go bust them
Speaker 5: back in the I don't know, mat like mac like,
Speaker 5: let's go back and advanced use of that word.
Speaker 6: I remember scamming m yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Man. Ever comes up to me and tells me wanted.
Speaker 5: To Sam Yeah, I like yeah, yeah again, I hail it.
Speaker 5: So it was I don't know. It was so hard
Speaker 5: for me to like not want to go back, like
Speaker 5: wanting to be with him, but then after them, I
Speaker 5: was like, no, I really don't want to be with him,
Speaker 5: you know. And then when I had that, you know, first,
Speaker 5: I call it, you know, popping my chairy because it
Speaker 5: probably was because me and my son's dad weren't even
Speaker 5: having sex. So it was just one of those things
Speaker 5: where I was like, ready, finally.
Speaker 2: You know, move forward, move forward and do the damn thing.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: Has Anthony ever met anyone you've dated? Yeah?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Is it because why I'm curious? I mean just because
Speaker 2: you're I know, I'm obviously I know the answers. You're
Speaker 2: protective because of your parents and that's what we are.
Speaker 2: But is it because also you haven't met anyone that
Speaker 2: you feel like is I Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean the one person that I thought was he
Speaker 5: did meet him, but just like as a friend, like
Speaker 5: you know, how we how we talked about yeah.
Speaker 2: Like you know, he had his daughter and then you know.
Speaker 5: We picked him up from school. But it was always like, oh,
Speaker 5: he's just my friend and that was it.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 5: I wasn't like more so like over dating, and we
Speaker 5: never around each other, like touch each other or anything
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: I was just and Anthony's twelve now.
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, and this is like what.
Speaker 2: Almost almost four years ago. Poor does he ask you
Speaker 2: about dating. Yeah, he's like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: Sometimes with him, I'm just like, where do you get
Speaker 5: these things? He was I was almost floor cracking my
Speaker 5: bag because I have back problems. And he saw, uh,
Speaker 5: match dot com on the TV. He goes, Mom, you
Speaker 5: should just sign up for that. And I'm like, I
Speaker 5: wasn't paying attention to the TV, and I was like,
Speaker 5: sign up for what. He goes, you need a man,
Speaker 5: sign up for match dot com. And I was like,
Speaker 5: she doesn't even need a man.
Speaker 7: And I was like, I don't need a man.
Speaker 5: He goes no, he goes, you need you need a boyfriend, mom,
Speaker 5: And he's like, I think it's time.
Speaker 2: Well, at least you know that he is open to it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because some kids are like,
Speaker 2: I don't need your mind.
Speaker 5: No, He's very like, I just wanted you to be happy.
Speaker 5: He cried dad's wedding when he got when I got married,
Speaker 5: when he got married, and I thought at first, I
Speaker 5: was like, what happened? Like what, like, why were you crying?
Speaker 5: He goes, no, Mom, calm down. He goes, I cried
Speaker 5: because I was very happy for my dad.
Speaker 2: Oh. I thought maybe it was like he was mad
Speaker 2: that you guys weren't together.
Speaker 7: I mean that too.
Speaker 2: He always was it hard to stup, Like, how do
Speaker 2: you because like Irie was so young when she was
Speaker 2: like two and half maybe when me and my baby
Speaker 2: daddy separated and you know you Luna too, like and
Speaker 2: you know, she still sees him very often, so I
Speaker 2: don't know if she even it's just normal to her
Speaker 2: at this point. But like he was six years old,
Speaker 2: like it's a little more. I think at first though,
Speaker 2: I redid be like with daddy, Luna said stuff or
Speaker 2: were together hands, I want you, But it's not as
Speaker 2: like devastating, whereas like when you get a little older
Speaker 2: it might be.
Speaker 5: You know, I think because I moved out, we had
Speaker 5: an incident, well, I had an incident with him where
Speaker 5: he was contacting someone that he had previously spoke to.
Speaker 5: So I was like, I don't tolerate.
Speaker 10: That, yeah, technically, but not emotion She was emotionally, was stating, yeah,
Speaker 10: so it was can be worse, yeah, because I'm like, you.
Speaker 2: Know the bitch, Yeah, you know, I know the bitch.
Speaker 7: She was like my best friend in high school.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So he was three, so that's when I was
Speaker 5: like we were living together and I like grabbed my
Speaker 5: shit and I left and so I was living with
Speaker 5: my mom and so then I was like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 5: we'll get back together. But I never moved back in,
Speaker 5: like never moved back in, and it was like, so
Speaker 5: he kind of knew that we were separated, so I
Speaker 5: wasn't asked, did you ever have a conversation about it
Speaker 5: when we when I got my own place. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: was just like, your dad and I are not together.
Speaker 2: We're not going to be together.
Speaker 5: And he was like why And at the time, I
Speaker 5: didn't know what to say, and I was just like,
Speaker 5: you know, we're just arguing a lot, and we.
Speaker 2: Just made our space.
Speaker 5: So but then after that he was just like, would
Speaker 5: get sad, you know, and it was hard for me
Speaker 5: to see that. But I also didn't want my son
Speaker 5: to see us arguing. And I'm when I get angry,
Speaker 5: I get angry. So it was like, yeah, is that crazy. Yeah, Listen,
Speaker 5: every time I might tell someone I'm a Gemini, they're like.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was the same thing. Scorpio too. We always
Speaker 2: get like that, oh thing. Yeah, those are those are
Speaker 2: the two signs to get the most Probably then there's
Speaker 2: other signs you're like, oh, I love you. I cancer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh you're so great. I know I liked him like funny.
Speaker 6: Well honest, now I could gets I could get spicy
Speaker 6: and I'm I'm Gemini cussed. So that's probably like together. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but I'm not crazy. I know Gemenis could be crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know we don't look at it and
Speaker 5: that's why we don't think we're crazy like.
Speaker 6: What we are.
Speaker 5: I mean, I just have to like face reality. But
Speaker 5: so yeah, it was like, you know, it's a huge
Speaker 5: It was a huge stuff that I.
Speaker 7: Had to take.
Speaker 2: You know, having that conversation with my son, Like when
Speaker 2: you said he would get sad, like would he talk
Speaker 2: to you about it or you would just notice that
Speaker 2: he was like no, he was very vulcal and like
Speaker 2: what would he say, like I want you and Daddy
Speaker 2: get back together?
Speaker 5: Or then he would be one time we were at Target,
Speaker 5: he was like, Mom, I want a baby brother or
Speaker 5: baby sister. And I was like, uh, where do you
Speaker 5: want me to get a baby brother?
Speaker 2: Target? Yeah, then he goes.
Speaker 7: With my dad and I was.
Speaker 2: Like maybe maybe he thought like maybe if they have
Speaker 2: a baby. Yeah, And then I was like, let's go
Speaker 2: look at the toys.
Speaker 5: Maybe we can find like a play doll something, ice
Speaker 5: c something, and.
Speaker 7: I was like, what's the next option?
Speaker 2: And then like at first he didn't know what to say,
Speaker 2: and then I was like how old was he around then?
Speaker 2: He's like eight nine, So it was like a few years.
Speaker 2: It kept it and went on to this day really
Speaker 2: even now still to this day. And what is their
Speaker 2: relationship like? Is it? You know? I mean obviously I
Speaker 2: think you know, women, we take on a lot of
Speaker 2: the work, but you know sometimes no, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Is your situation in more like you take
Speaker 2: on most of the work as a parent.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's more so like a work in progress.
Speaker 5: That's like the best way that I can describe it,
Speaker 5: because we've definitely had our ups and downs where I
Speaker 5: just hate him and like you're doing this and he
Speaker 5: might think the same thing. You know, I'm not perfect
Speaker 5: and I know I make mistakes, and I know Anthony
Speaker 5: probably communicates.
Speaker 7: To him because he's so vocal.
Speaker 5: So he probably has his way of thinking about me.
Speaker 5: But I've learned that I just need to let it
Speaker 5: go and let it be and if you want to
Speaker 5: be there, you can. I'm not stopping you, but I'm
Speaker 5: not also forcing you. So that's where we're at. So,
Speaker 5: but he does see him. He picks them up, like
Speaker 5: he's picking him up today.
Speaker 2: From school, and he'll be involved.
Speaker 5: He like takes him look to baseball stuff like that,
Speaker 5: but not as much as I would like for him.
Speaker 7: To be involved.
Speaker 2: When you started your like YouTube chan, are you channel later?
Speaker 2: Right when you started kind of growing on Instagram? Were
Speaker 2: you already were you still in your well you guys,
Speaker 2: were you weren't married? Right? No?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: In your relationship? Like did he see that? What is
Speaker 2: what does he feel like now seeing like where you
Speaker 2: were versus now, like the visibility you have and like
Speaker 2: all the people that look to you for you know,
Speaker 2: they looked to you for what's beautiful? Really? And was
Speaker 2: he around during the beginning of that?
Speaker 5: He was around? Like So my old Instagram this was
Speaker 5: like twenty ten. I started that and it was called
Speaker 5: sugarpants sugar pants, so underschool, underscore sugarpants. If you look
Speaker 5: up the hashtag, there's like a bunch of people that like, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's crazy, why sugarpants?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 5: It was cut I because when I started Instagram, I
Speaker 5: started it because of the filters. I didn't know it
Speaker 5: had any meaning. And then people started following me and
Speaker 5: I was like why and I would start blocking them.
Speaker 7: Don't don't come to my page.
Speaker 5: And then I started working at Mac and then I
Speaker 5: like kind of picked up on like, oh, this is
Speaker 5: like social media. And then I don't know if you
Speaker 5: remember vegas name, so she reposted me and that's where
Speaker 5: like my platform grew and Vegas Nay was.
Speaker 2: Like this like instagrammer that like was a reposter. It
Speaker 2: had so many followers, like an influence, and.
Speaker 5: It was like all beauty and like, you know, it
Speaker 5: was really she's She was really one of the first
Speaker 5: ones that ever started the repost.
Speaker 2: And then that's when he started seeing that.
Speaker 5: And I would always post Anthony, but I would never
Speaker 5: post him.
Speaker 2: But for me it was.
Speaker 5: More so because I wasn't sure that I wanted to
Speaker 5: be with him for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's also before social media became a thing like actually,
Speaker 2: like why aren't you posting me? Because now, like if
Speaker 2: you're in a relationship and you're not posted, it's like
Speaker 2: you're not in Like you're not in a relationship.
Speaker 5: Even when I was after, I wouldn't post the person
Speaker 5: that I was with because I just don't think it's
Speaker 5: anyone's business, you know. But for me went with him.
Speaker 5: He's a pisces, so he was very sensitive. Especially he
Speaker 5: always needed reassurance of like tell me that you love me,
Speaker 5: show me that you love me. And for me, it's like,
Speaker 5: I do love you, like I don't need to post
Speaker 5: you somewhere to show you that I love you.
Speaker 2: And it was like a huge problem.
Speaker 5: Because then I posted one of my guy friends, but
Speaker 5: it was like business related business because it was involving beauty,
Speaker 5: and he was like, you know, and this was the
Speaker 5: guy that I went to elementary school, you know, So
Speaker 5: it was it was definitely really hard. But I can't
Speaker 5: really tell you what he thinks now because I don't
Speaker 5: have that communication.
Speaker 2: Like we strictly talk about Anthony and Anthony only you know.
Speaker 2: Oh what was I about to I was just about
Speaker 2: to ask you fuck wait, because you have you have
Speaker 2: almost like you're close to like a million followers, So
Speaker 2: what do you okay? Because what do you think about
Speaker 2: boyfriends and husbands being like like the Cagrammers, the agents,
Speaker 2: Like I'm always curious because I think it's really silly.
Speaker 2: I think it's fun, but I think it's cute, like
Speaker 2: they support you know, their girl like which is which
Speaker 2: is cute. But I've always been like, could anyone I'm
Speaker 2: dating ever be like like become my life? Now? I couldn't.
Speaker 2: Do you think he could have been that? Like do
Speaker 2: you think he would have done that for you? Been
Speaker 2: you're like videographer and editor?
Speaker 5: And I feel like the love that him and I
Speaker 5: had was like one in a lifetime. Like I feel
Speaker 5: like I will always say that he was like the
Speaker 5: love of my life. Unfortunately I felt out of love.
Speaker 5: But I will never be able to love someone the
Speaker 5: way that I love him.
Speaker 2: That's not true. That's not true. No, and like sense
Speaker 2: of like a person of who he was to me,
Speaker 2: maybe because he's the father of your child.
Speaker 6: That's you don't think that I find someone else who
Speaker 6: loves you even more and even better?
Speaker 7: No, no, no, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 5: I'm saying I will never be able to love someone
Speaker 5: the way that I love him as a person who
Speaker 5: he is.
Speaker 2: But you can't say you're already like setting yourself up
Speaker 2: for like like, oh no, I could love someone else
Speaker 2: even more, but just maybe just different.
Speaker 6: I get that how I feel about my baby daddy
Speaker 6: is like as much fed up shit as he's done,
Speaker 6: and as much as I don't want to be with him,
Speaker 6: I love him. And I say it's strangely because I
Speaker 6: know I'm so fucking long. Yeah, it says odd like
Speaker 6: in a family way, Like I like, it's so we're
Speaker 6: so close, Like I've never I never thought that I
Speaker 6: could have a man that I would be that close
Speaker 6: with because it was just almost like brother like anything,
Speaker 6: everything like together all the time, but it just doesn't
Speaker 6: work romantically.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's exact same way that I feel like
Speaker 5: I don't want to be with him. I don't love
Speaker 5: him that way, but like I love him as a
Speaker 5: human being, who he is, everything that he's done for me,
Speaker 5: who he is as a father as sometimes I don't
Speaker 5: want to say that, because he is a great father
Speaker 5: when he wants to be. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: it's definitely not who I want to.
Speaker 7: Spend the rest of my life with.
Speaker 5: I don't see myself, and even if I did, I
Speaker 5: would probably do it for my son.
Speaker 2: Has he had a kid, this is your wife, No,
Speaker 2: how would you feel.
Speaker 5: I'd be happy because it would make my son happy,
Speaker 5: because my son wants a sibling and because I don't.
Speaker 2: Want Do you want more kids?
Speaker 7: I do?
Speaker 2: I want at least two more too. Yeah, girl, you
Speaker 2: done forgot so.
Speaker 5: Technically technically fourteen okay because the whole.
Speaker 2: Pregnancy, Oh yeah, you already forgot or you have that
Speaker 2: one and be.
Speaker 5: Like, well, my best friend just had a baby after
Speaker 5: her daughter is twelve yea, and I went to go
Speaker 5: visit and the baby started crying and I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, like what do I do?
Speaker 2: What do I do? And I was like okay, and
Speaker 2: then he would be quiet, and then I would sit
Speaker 2: back down. He was staring. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I could not do this. Yeah, Like I was like
Speaker 2: just kidding, yeah, like a baby. Yeah, girl, she gets real.
Speaker 2: I know it looks so cute. And then you're like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck? I think? Like I've been living this
Speaker 2: independent AsSalt and is twelve. He can make his own food, literally,
Speaker 2: like I'm running. He's about to two years, he'll be
Speaker 2: getting this permit, like you know, my freedom. I feel
Speaker 2: like it's like the white light is almost right there.
Speaker 2: I can almost taste it, and then you get pulled back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like recently, well, I mean I think obviously hopefully you're
Speaker 2: you know you have a partner that wants to help you. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: hopefully it works out right, you know, have help, but.
Speaker 7: I do Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like once, well, I can't say when I'm
Speaker 2: ready because you find that it's hard to date, like
Speaker 2: if when guys find out like because you know, we
Speaker 2: live in the age of social media. I think it's
Speaker 2: a lame. I like want to date you because you
Speaker 2: can help them with a social like can you post me?
Speaker 2: Can you post my brand? Like I have a new
Speaker 2: like mixtape dropping.
Speaker 7: That's great.
Speaker 2: I mean that's never happened. To give it to me
Speaker 2: and I'll drop it. But like, do you find have
Speaker 2: you ever encountered that?
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I actually just recently met this guy and
Speaker 5: he was you know, very you know, fascinated by just
Speaker 5: my parents. And then you know, the first thing, you know,
Speaker 5: obviously he asked for my number, and then he was like,
Speaker 5: what's your Instagram? And I was just like, okay, like
Speaker 5: is that like what we do now?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is in my mind, you know, And.
Speaker 5: Then I was like okay, so I gave it to him.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, you're famous, and I was like no,
Speaker 5: it's like I'm not. He goes, no, you are, and
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, it's not going to go anywhere,
Speaker 5: so I don't know, let it go. And then obviously
Speaker 5: he probably just like went through my page and saw
Speaker 5: that I had my son and it kind of got
Speaker 5: weird after that. And then he like called me randomly
Speaker 5: on like a Sunday and he was like hey, like
Speaker 5: what are you doing. It's like, how's your Sunday? And
Speaker 5: I was like it's going good. I just got home
Speaker 5: from my son's baseball game, you know, and he was like,
Speaker 5: oh cool. He was like, so listen, Like I wanted
Speaker 5: to see if I can take you to dinner so
Speaker 5: we can talk about like some social media stuff and
Speaker 5: like how you got And.
Speaker 2: I was like what, I was like cool, Like so
Speaker 2: he never even wanted to go on a real date
Speaker 2: with you. He just wanted to talk about social media stuff. Dude,
Speaker 2: do you do makeup? Like yeah?
Speaker 5: And to me, he said, I just want to pick
Speaker 5: your brain on how like you got started and like
Speaker 5: and I was like, well.
Speaker 2: I don't do interviews. Where's my cash? Yeah? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: So after that, like I unfollowed him and I blocked
Speaker 5: him on my phone because I'm just like, I don't
Speaker 5: have to really like you're good looking, you look like
Speaker 5: you have money, and I don't really care about that.
Speaker 5: But like, no, like that was such a huge turn off,
Speaker 5: such a huge turn off for me.
Speaker 2: I was, I was just like, damn, he's just my
Speaker 2: t what is your time? Good looking, big, deep, large penis,
Speaker 2: well wealthy, tall, dark, you like them, talk like ses mouth, okay,
Speaker 2: well hardly bearded film not true, It's true, you like
Speaker 2: like not only but she has a thing she has
Speaker 2: like you know, everyone has like their little thing that
Speaker 2: maybe like they are immediately initially attracted to attractive black men,
Speaker 2: to black men always my son's dad and you're and
Speaker 2: you're Guatemalan, Im Guatemalan.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So well the boyfriend that he saw me with was black,
Speaker 5: and I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure he knew.
Speaker 6: But so since you, baby, I had most most of
Speaker 6: the guys you dated been black.
Speaker 2: Most of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was one that was also Mexican, but he
Speaker 5: was he converted to Muslim, and like, I don't.
Speaker 7: Know what he sounds. He sounded like on the phone,
Speaker 7: he sounded black.
Speaker 6: I woant to suit with Mexican converged to Muslim, it
Speaker 6: looks sounds like you might have a beer.
Speaker 2: You do not want a Muslim. I've already loved with
Speaker 2: a Muslim, and I won't convert it as a huge
Speaker 2: conflict in my life. I don't need to know that.
Speaker 2: I'm just I just wanted to see. I just don't
Speaker 2: think I would ever be able to date another Muslim.
Speaker 6: No, No, it's so much extreme. It's such bullshit. I mean,
Speaker 6: not bullshit if you're Muslim. I'm just saying, like, I
Speaker 6: know a lot of fake ass Muslims.
Speaker 7: Like it was from Oakland. I think I don't even remember.
Speaker 2: I like try to erase that part of my life
Speaker 2: because it went, how.
Speaker 6: Would your your mom feel if you brought like you
Speaker 6: really seriously married a black guy?
Speaker 2: Oh, she would be happy.
Speaker 5: My dad, on the other hand, now I don't like
Speaker 5: my dad's not I know everyone probably says my dad's
Speaker 5: not racist, but like he.
Speaker 2: Just culturally though, it's a thing. It's a thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I mean you'll have a conversation with anyone
Speaker 5: with a wall. But like he told me once, he
Speaker 5: was like, if you ever come home, I don't know why.
Speaker 7: I was like, did I ever give out that black
Speaker 7: my dad that I like?
Speaker 2: Definitely girl, No, you know, it's funny because I never
Speaker 2: used to wear hoops ever. But so he told me that,
Speaker 2: he was like, if you ever date.
Speaker 7: A black man, I don't ever want to hear from
Speaker 7: you again.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was young. That's extreme. Yeah, why do I
Speaker 2: think that is? Like why do you think that is?
Speaker 2: Because I mean, I think even in the black community
Speaker 2: there's some of that too, like especially with white people,
Speaker 2: like you're like a black mom will for sure be
Speaker 2: like don't bring a white girl home, whereas a black
Speaker 2: dad might be like not ever son or I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's it depends. It varies from household to household,
Speaker 2: but it is a thing. But I know, for like
Speaker 2: definitely in the Latin community, like they want you to
Speaker 2: marry another lat like another Latino or Latino or white
Speaker 2: and never black. But you know what, yeah, because I.
Speaker 6: Know other Latino friends, same thing, and like I could
Speaker 6: I could marry when I'm my friend, I'm thinking about
Speaker 6: particularly did marry whit guy.
Speaker 2: But I remember in high school she's telling me like, no,
Speaker 2: well that is I mean, it's that's so deep because
Speaker 2: it just shows you, like it's like how like the
Speaker 2: black man, the color even just the color black. It's
Speaker 2: it's the fear. It's dark, it's bad, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's influenced. It's like a universal and I love it much.
Speaker 2: But I just wonder like why, because I mean, that's
Speaker 2: that everyone knows that, like in the community, you don't
Speaker 2: really honestly, I never I never asked everything.
Speaker 5: I was so afraid of like having a conversation with
Speaker 5: him that I was just.
Speaker 2: Like, you never touched back on it. Well, someone tells
Speaker 2: you I'm not going to fuck with you after that,
Speaker 2: you don't forget that, I'm not, so so what would
Speaker 2: you do? Like what if you did have to? My
Speaker 2: dad has to accept whoever at this point, Like.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to not be with someone just because,
Speaker 5: But is that a conversation.
Speaker 2: You would have with him before he met whoever you're
Speaker 2: dating and I don't respect And how do you have
Speaker 2: that conversation with the person you're dating? Like do you
Speaker 2: just not even have it and just hope your dad behaves.
Speaker 2: I think I would to have that conversation with my
Speaker 2: dad first and see his reaction.
Speaker 6: Maybe he didn't know last morning about you know, not having.
Speaker 2: I think also as a black man, though you know
Speaker 2: that you already know that though you know it might
Speaker 2: be an issue. I think, so we're not like they know,
Speaker 2: just like we just asked. You have to know.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's a it's a universal and I specifically asked,
Speaker 6: especially like an I like a lot of black men.
Speaker 6: I know a lot of friends who like don't fuck
Speaker 6: with like who only fuck with girls outside of their vice.
Speaker 2: I always ask them, like, how does her family take
Speaker 2: to you? How do you feel about that? Doesn't that
Speaker 2: matter because black men love women.
Speaker 5: Well, it's so funny because I think, did I tell
Speaker 5: you this story about my mom?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 5: I had this guy that like I've talked to for years,
Speaker 5: and he came to see me and.
Speaker 7: I my mom pulled up and we were outside.
Speaker 2: Oh you did tell me this?
Speaker 5: And he's Dominican, and obviously he looks black.
Speaker 2: When I met him, I thought he was black.
Speaker 5: And then she was like so nice to him, and
Speaker 5: like she just wants to see me happy at the
Speaker 5: end of the day.
Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't care what color he is, as.
Speaker 7: Long as he's making you happy. But you know, it
Speaker 7: was just.
Speaker 2: Like and then he busts out that Spanish. Yeah he
Speaker 2: was oh, even better, even better, And.
Speaker 5: I was like then I couldn't shut the lady up,
Speaker 5: and I was like, lady, aren't you cold?
Speaker 2: It's cold outside and it'll get us better. That's funny.
Speaker 2: But I mean, shit, my mom's Latina and my dad's black,
Speaker 2: and I'm that was It wasn't a thing, but it's
Speaker 2: a thing I had. I asked you that before, and
Speaker 2: then I asked you that. Oh, so it was a
Speaker 2: thing with your mom. I mean, well, my grandfather was
Speaker 2: white or Portuguese and Irish. She lived his life past
Speaker 2: her as a white man and living as a white man.
Speaker 2: And then my grandma is Mexican fully so, but she's
Speaker 2: first twelve. Yeah, she's first generation American. So she grew
Speaker 2: up in Colorado, so she was in like a farming town.
Speaker 2: She was amongst a lot of like Mexican people, but
Speaker 2: also amongst a lot of white people as well, so
Speaker 2: she was a little more like not black people though,
Speaker 2: And like, I don't know, I think it's when I
Speaker 2: he my grandma talk about black people shouldn't say anything negative,
Speaker 2: but she'd be like, oh the black guy, yeah, that
Speaker 2: black guy. Like you feel the tone chain, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: kind of there is. It's like this, it's a tone
Speaker 2: like she'll never say she, she'll never say she. I
Speaker 2: don't think she cared. I don't think I don't. Actually
Speaker 2: I know she didn't. Doesn't really care if my mom
Speaker 2: was with a Latin man at all. Actually, my family,
Speaker 2: I feel like my Mexican side of my family try
Speaker 2: to assimilate, you know, like they tried. They never went
Speaker 2: back to Mexico. They tried to just wear Americans. Now,
Speaker 2: you know, my grandma doesn't like to be in the sun.
Speaker 2: She doesn't wanted to get dark because she can really
Speaker 2: because I say, if I just saw your grandma, I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's obvious she's I mean it she to go.
Speaker 2: It can go either way, like well not white, but
Speaker 2: you know she's something, but she's doesn't necessarily look what
Speaker 2: you think Mexican may be.
Speaker 5: Like I don't feel like I get that I'm I'm
Speaker 5: not Mexican or I never get Guatemala. Ever, they can
Speaker 5: never figure out what I am. I'm like, I'm Latina, but.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like it's not it's it's it's it's
Speaker 2: a thing. The black thing is a thing, even.
Speaker 6: If it's not, even if it's unspoken, you know, it's
Speaker 6: a thing, even if it's unspoken. That's interesting because I
Speaker 6: wonder if she's just like even saying, but now but
Speaker 6: now she.
Speaker 2: Has black she has two black grandchildren. Her daughter has
Speaker 2: been had children with two black men, Like it's her
Speaker 2: part of her life now, you know, whereas I feel
Speaker 2: like had she dated a white she would have been
Speaker 2: totally there would have been a conversation about dating a
Speaker 2: white guy. It's totally fine. You know. Did you think
Speaker 2: your grandmother ever had a conversation with your mom? I
Speaker 2: don't know, Maybe should ask her. I don't know, just
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, I have family in Houston and they're all married
Speaker 5: to white men. And I remember, I don't know what
Speaker 5: we were talking about, and I like said I was
Speaker 5: talking to her and I was like, oh, yeah, like
Speaker 5: if you come to my wedding, it's going to be
Speaker 5: you know, because I'm going to marry a black guy.
Speaker 5: And she was like all black men cheat about all
Speaker 5: And then I said to her, I was like all
Speaker 5: men shei and she was like, no, but I've heard
Speaker 5: about more like homes coming from like black people because
Speaker 5: the man cheats.
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, because.
Speaker 5: Dumbasses stay with like you know, white men, they beat
Speaker 5: their wives like, oh people, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like it's so many different how people like hear
Speaker 2: something and then it's like becomes like, oh, that's what
Speaker 2: it is without any experience. Oh no, I've heard like
Speaker 2: her husand's probably cheating on her right now.
Speaker 5: Like and then my an she was like, oh no,
Speaker 5: you would suck up your life if you like marry
Speaker 5: a black man. When you say why, at that point,
Speaker 5: I just don't want to hear it.
Speaker 7: You're just not going to be invited to.
Speaker 2: My wife my wedding. It's so interesting, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I just don't want to deal with that. I don't.
Speaker 6: My life.
Speaker 2: Let it be. Fuck. You might have some really cute kids,
Speaker 2: but your life is going to be I know.
Speaker 6: And then in the future, like you wanted you want
Speaker 6: to disregard like ignorant comments and dumb ship and you're
Speaker 6: like you want to like bring your kids around in
Speaker 6: the future, but like you can never hear that ship, Like.
Speaker 2: I'm leaving little Jimmy with you. Yeah, you know, little Jimmy,
Speaker 2: who knows what she's gonna be talking about. So dating,
Speaker 2: So dating in general, like do you use apps? Are
Speaker 2: you an Apple? Have you used apps? I have? Yeah?
Speaker 5: In the past. I won't. It's been a few years.
Speaker 5: I actually have used it when I'm traveling.
Speaker 2: Did you use match dot com like Anthony suggestions?
Speaker 7: The first app that I ever used was tender.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the beginner beginner dating it. Sorry, I got catfished?
Speaker 2: You got catfished? What happened? Just you know, like many
Speaker 2: times or one specifically? Then I ended up being in
Speaker 2: a relationship with the catfish. What's never heard a story
Speaker 2: like this?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't even know what this means, but.
Speaker 7: No, because then it went really wrong.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what catfish in the sense that when you
Speaker 2: pulled up he didn't look like the photo or catfish like,
Speaker 2: he wasn't who So.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I downloaded that and then I matched with
Speaker 5: a few people, and I like talked to a few
Speaker 5: people first, and then there was this particular guy who
Speaker 5: was like very like well spoken, and I was like intrigued,
Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, he was in a private jet,
Speaker 5: but his face was like this way and it was
Speaker 5: kind of like far away.
Speaker 2: So you can't really see like his face. Oh my god, girl,
Speaker 2: you that's how you unite? Alarming girl, Like that's the
Speaker 2: one like the private jet, right, then they're in front
Speaker 2: of like the car. Yes, oh my god, you are
Speaker 2: a sucker. You are a tender sucker. It was my
Speaker 2: first you know, go right, and then you have to
Speaker 2: like squint at this pod and so see, that's what
Speaker 2: you get for me in shallow. That's what you get shallow.
Speaker 2: When I wasn't.
Speaker 7: They were just douchebags.
Speaker 2: That's true, you know, happy medium, Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 2: give me a break. It was my first time, and
Speaker 2: I was like, okay.
Speaker 5: So we had like great conversation and then he was
Speaker 5: like I remember vividly what he said. He was like,
Speaker 5: I'm deleting. Here's my number, I'm deleting the app. So
Speaker 5: of course I was like, okay.
Speaker 2: What like, you met me and you're deleting it.
Speaker 7: No, we have been speaking for like a few days.
Speaker 2: And then he was like, you're so special. I want
Speaker 2: to make you feel special.
Speaker 6: There's scammers on tender, Like how like my friend met
Speaker 6: some guy, my friend, my forefriend met some tender. He
Speaker 6: said that he was on a remote location in the military.
Speaker 2: Sound I know as soon as she started spit it out,
Speaker 2: doesn't she know that it's like in the area.
Speaker 6: This is my friends At that time, I called you
Speaker 6: were like, is this like seventies And she's like no, yeah,
Speaker 6: oh yeah, okay, And you know, she's like, we was
Speaker 6: supposed to make this week and he's flying here. Was
Speaker 6: talked on the phone and like you're talking phone, but
Speaker 6: you have a FaceTime?
Speaker 2: No he can't.
Speaker 7: Does he not have a kN iPhone?
Speaker 2: He wants to get married. He has all this money anyway.
Speaker 11: Doesn't tender ratchet in location? What do you mean he's
Speaker 11: getting on of pla my location anyway? Like, so the
Speaker 11: next week I was doing, I was like, did you
Speaker 11: meet him? Did you guys at the hotel? He's talking
Speaker 11: about getting married. I was like, anytime you met a
Speaker 11: negga on tender and cycle getting married within weeks?
Speaker 2: This is bad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was supposed to get his way. He contacted
Speaker 6: her from Dubai. He got caught up in Dubai. He
Speaker 6: took all his stuff. He needs her to bail him out.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, it's like those emails like those.
Speaker 2: And then she did it. I don't know, my friend.
Speaker 2: She's an older woman, she's not technologically advanced. She probably
Speaker 2: her husband like five years ago.
Speaker 6: It's like the only husband she's ever only she's ever
Speaker 6: been with for like since she was twenty met as
Speaker 6: a waitress. He had money, he took care of her
Speaker 6: like she has no she had no dating tools.
Speaker 2: Con Oh my god, I hope he didn't. She didn't
Speaker 2: send money.
Speaker 7: I hope there.
Speaker 2: But wait, so so you're going that's damn. I thought
Speaker 2: we'd like I forgot. So we ended up talking like
Speaker 2: I ended up texting him, I think.
Speaker 5: And it just was all champagne and bubbles and it
Speaker 5: was just like great, like yeah, okay, you met him, okay.
Speaker 2: So then I met him.
Speaker 5: Okay, and then I was like, hm, so short okay,
Speaker 5: and then doesn't look like anything that was in that
Speaker 5: picture that we're in those.
Speaker 10: Photos in my mind, I was like walking onto the place,
Speaker 10: I was like, oh no.
Speaker 2: But he was such a gentleman, like he just treated
Speaker 2: me like a queen. So he was not cute. He
Speaker 2: was He's attractive, I think, you think. I mean now
Speaker 2: I look at him now and I just.
Speaker 6: Like, did you address the elephant in the room, Like
Speaker 6: did you ever say you just were? He didn't say, like,
Speaker 6: by the way, I'm just re looking at your profile
Speaker 6: and which one of these are.
Speaker 2: Because he deleted the thing so that I couldn't. Did
Speaker 2: he think that you're gonna forget you always had a screen,
Speaker 2: It doesn't it notify them? I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well no, okay, so then after actually, let's take a
Speaker 5: step back, he actually sent me.
Speaker 7: Photos of him, like I was like, and.
Speaker 5: Then the name was different of his actual name was
Speaker 5: different than what he had on the app.
Speaker 2: That's what I should have known. So the pictures that
Speaker 2: he sent you were that was the actually had him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but when I texted him, I texted him the.
Speaker 5: Name of that he had on the app, and then
Speaker 5: he was like, oh, my name is actually David.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's I don't know, like maybe he was embarrassed
Speaker 2: to be on the app, so he made a different name.
Speaker 2: Happened in the long term, Yeah, so what ended up happening?
Speaker 2: He ended up he was so gentleman like he didn't
Speaker 2: have a jet.
Speaker 12: He didn't have a jet, okay, mos importantly above all,
Speaker 12: it just.
Speaker 2: You know, it was just very manipulative and like verbally abusive,
Speaker 2: like you know, you guys like started dating.
Speaker 5: Yeah we were together, but I never posted him or
Speaker 5: anything like how long.
Speaker 2: Did you guys date?
Speaker 7: For a few months.
Speaker 5: And then I was just like, I can't I can't
Speaker 5: do this because he was going.
Speaker 2: Through a lot.
Speaker 5: Just let's just say that. And like I was there
Speaker 5: for him because that's just who I am. I was
Speaker 5: just like, let me just be there for you.
Speaker 2: And I just couldn't. I couldn't take it anymore. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you can't like call me a whore and a bitch because.
Speaker 7: I'm not answering.
Speaker 2: Oh no, hell no, No. That's the kind of guy
Speaker 2: that like will send your news to people or something
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 6: Any sign of that you get cut the fuck off
Speaker 6: yet start acting psycho boom boom boom.
Speaker 5: But see at the time, because I was like so
Speaker 5: infatuated with how he treated me, well, that's how I.
Speaker 2: Cook for me.
Speaker 5: He would like, would never let me pay for anything,
Speaker 5: was just like all about me and.
Speaker 2: Like so respectful and like you know, like completely winning.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, when that was percent, it was crazy.
Speaker 5: So it took me like a whole year to like
Speaker 5: be okay with not being with him because I was,
Speaker 5: like I can say I was like in love with
Speaker 5: him or the idea of who was Yeah, and then
Speaker 5: when I started seeing his true colors and I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, I need.
Speaker 2: To get out, and I did, and I like, just,
Speaker 2: I like, don't so because of that? Are you not?
Speaker 2: Have you been on a dating app since then? No?
Speaker 5: Not doing it And I've actually I have. I tried Rya,
Speaker 5: but like it's I.
Speaker 2: Is so Caucasian. I went on there Caucasian. I don't
Speaker 2: have a phone right now because I dropped in the
Speaker 2: pool two days ago. But I went back on Rya
Speaker 2: recently just to take a gander see if there's something new. Girl,
Speaker 2: I was like, why is it the same people? Like
Speaker 2: I literally saw the same guys I saw like six
Speaker 2: months ago.
Speaker 6: Yes, Ryot is racist, I know.
Speaker 2: It's just like literally they don't have enough people on there.
Speaker 5: Let people you like swipe once and they're like, please
Speaker 5: hold right, you've.
Speaker 2: Been swiping too eagerly. Yeah, Like we're trying to cultivate
Speaker 2: real relationships, so we're gonna limit your swipes. I'm like that,
Speaker 2: I'm paying for this. I should go to swipe. However
Speaker 2: the fuck I want to swis being funny about who
Speaker 2: they're letting is. And then any guy I've ever matched
Speaker 2: with on Rya, like we talk and we never meet up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you never met anyone on Ryan like actually met somebody,
Speaker 2: whereas on Tinder, I've met like multiple people. Have you
Speaker 2: tried it on a hinge? I've recently been on Hinge?
Speaker 2: I did what was the other one? Bumble bumble. I
Speaker 2: don't like bumble because I don't like to talk first.
Speaker 5: See that, like because I just felt that because like
Speaker 5: the situation happened with Tender, I feel more comfortable, like
Speaker 5: if I want to talk to you, I can talk
Speaker 5: to you.
Speaker 2: If not, then I don't need to. So every time
Speaker 2: I go to New York, well not every time, but
Speaker 2: I have traveling using apps is great. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that's that's why I fell in love with Tinder, because
Speaker 2: I only used it when I traveled and I met
Speaker 2: like it felt it always felt like a whirlwind, Like
Speaker 2: it always felt like a when I know here and roman.
Speaker 5: When I don't turn it off, I like open it
Speaker 5: to see if I turned it off, and it'll like
Speaker 5: match me with like my neighbor or something, and I'm
Speaker 5: just like, oh my god, I.
Speaker 2: Need to my neighbor. Yeah, oh yeah, I know. That's
Speaker 2: why don't you won't do it?
Speaker 6: I just I think guys are so dumb to think
Speaker 6: that you're going to go on an app to get
Speaker 6: dick like I could just go on my phone book
Speaker 6: like like like when they're trying to get like straight
Speaker 6: to it, I'm like, dude, this is not it's not happening.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I went on an app to get
Speaker 2: penis at first. That's why I was on Tinder initially
Speaker 2: because I didn't have any one in my phone internet creep.
Speaker 2: And that's why I promoted Tinder for people that don't
Speaker 2: know how to get their feet wet, because like I like,
Speaker 2: I wasn't. Really I don't know on dates you get
Speaker 2: like I don't. She literally goes to have dinners to eat.
Speaker 2: I love to eat the same, and I.
Speaker 6: Can put up with like anybody's conversation for three meals.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, how's your how's your? Hinge?
Speaker 6: Guy?
Speaker 2: The only one I wanted to date with. He's actually cool.
Speaker 2: So Jamila met this guy on Hinge and I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of a name for him, Jay okay Jay,
Speaker 2: and I can't. We can't even call a bay he
Speaker 2: can he No, he can't. Oh I feel bad. I
Speaker 2: hope he did never listen. Oh boy thought of Bay
Speaker 2: yet because it's still working on it. Yeah, Denielle thinks
Speaker 2: he lied about his age what do you think. I
Speaker 2: think I.
Speaker 6: Would hope guys are not lying about their age, but
Speaker 6: I keep hearing that they are, and it's like, I lie.
Speaker 2: I don't know. He said forty two, so it's not
Speaker 2: like he said thirty five.
Speaker 7: Oh wow, so you think he's older.
Speaker 2: That's it. My friend thinks does he look older? You know,
Speaker 2: it's hard to.
Speaker 6: Tell with black men because you know, we've been looking
Speaker 6: thirty five till about seventy.
Speaker 2: Now. I met a guy in New York and he was.
Speaker 5: What, forty three, Not that he lied about it, but
Speaker 5: he didn't look forty three.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I don't I just don't want you to lie.
Speaker 6: I think that's like I don't care how old you are.
Speaker 6: I just don't lie. Dinner doesn't have an age.
Speaker 2: Your wallet doesn't have an age. It may have a limit. Fact,
Speaker 2: and the older you.
Speaker 6: Get, I'm helping the limit is getting up because you're older,
Speaker 6: you've been doing this longer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's like my first after my I broke
Speaker 5: it off with, you know that one person.
Speaker 2: I don't even.
Speaker 5: I met this guy in New York and he was like,
Speaker 5: actually staying in the same hotel from that app No, no, no,
Speaker 5: So that I went to New York for for work
Speaker 5: and he was staying in the hotel and like, I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, my weakness is black man
Speaker 5: with like a baseball cap and a white.
Speaker 4: Shirt what I like, I don't know, and a white
Speaker 4: shirt waiting that's amazing nice yeah, gray sweatsuit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and like a super chocolate man in a white
Speaker 6: share it with nice tea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the white T shirt and the white teeth
Speaker 2: and the chocolate. So basically, he's going to the all
Speaker 2: white party. He's going to party, Jess. I'm just saying, well,
Speaker 2: and you know, niggas love to wear all white. Can't
Speaker 2: wait for a party where they get to wear all white,
Speaker 2: like you want to all white party, can get a
Speaker 2: fresh teath some new Air Force once and it have
Speaker 2: to be new.
Speaker 5: So yeah, So I met him and I was just like,
Speaker 5: oh my, he had colored eyes, and I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my good lord, what.
Speaker 7: Am I going to do?
Speaker 5: And like I didn't know, Like I was just like
Speaker 5: I think I'm ready, Like I think I'm ready to
Speaker 5: just like go and this I think it had been.
Speaker 2: Like nine months and I just went for it. You
Speaker 2: to his Roman? Did it? No?
Speaker 7: Not that night?
Speaker 5: That was nice.
Speaker 2: That was. That was the second that was like the
Speaker 2: second night, what was it four hours later?
Speaker 7: But he was like, you know, I.
Speaker 5: Didn't want to because I was like I didn't know,
Speaker 5: like I'm in New York, Like I don't want to
Speaker 5: do that. And then found and then I found out
Speaker 5: that he lives in LA actually lives in this area
Speaker 5: in the valley. And then I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I guess I can because maybe I need someone I
Speaker 5: get back home.
Speaker 2: And I did it, and then I was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: it's a good story.
Speaker 7: It was very I mean moving for hours.
Speaker 2: Soon was that.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I had any like success stories
Speaker 6: on apps.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know whatever, Jay's school.
Speaker 5: But after that situation, I was just like not doing
Speaker 5: it like that, like not in for a relationship.
Speaker 2: I mean it depends like what your expectations. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: feel like I've had success stories and I'm not with
Speaker 2: anyone from an app, you know what I mean, you
Speaker 2: have had success stories high level, I mean if they're
Speaker 2: not my boyfriends or girlfriends. Just like I've had really
Speaker 2: great experiences, I've also had mediocre experiences.
Speaker 5: But but this was what like five years ago, right,
Speaker 5: so it was like a long time ago. So now
Speaker 5: I just don't even think about it, cause I'm like,
Speaker 5: I know what you want.
Speaker 2: That's not what I want. So I'm not gonna even
Speaker 2: waste my time for your time.
Speaker 6: So I just remember I have to text trembling Bay friends,
Speaker 6: Oh trembling Bay.
Speaker 2: Lips friend Trimling Lip trembling. He's a former Bay that
Speaker 2: I had met on Tinder okay, and she matched with
Speaker 2: his friend on Hinge the other day. Dating must be difficult,
Speaker 2: because I mean, I if you guys listen, if you
Speaker 2: guys like know, like like the influencer life may be
Speaker 2: a fucking traveling all over the goddamn place and going
Speaker 2: on trips and shit, and literally I went on we
Speaker 2: Beauty Bleunder had one like in fl We've had one
Speaker 2: influencer trip, and I thought I was gonna die. I
Speaker 2: was like, how do they do this every weekend? Every
Speaker 2: week or every few months even because it's so much alcohol,
Speaker 2: and like everyone on that trip was like handling like
Speaker 2: a g and I was like, I got to keep up.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm on two hours of sleep, Like the
Speaker 2: fuck I'm probably like and now and those and those
Speaker 2: experiences you're having so much fun. But most of the
Speaker 2: time you're with like gay men, Like you're with a
Speaker 2: lot of gay men and girl husbands or or husbands. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true. So like, how do you meet people? I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: you'reparently not really meeting people.
Speaker 7: I'm not because I.
Speaker 5: Really don't go anywhere when I'm like home, I'm like,
Speaker 5: I work from home. So I go and I pick
Speaker 5: up Anthony and come home, take them to baseball, go home, record,
Speaker 5: and I do like all that stuff. But I told
Speaker 5: my friends here and I was like, hey, like we
Speaker 5: need to start going places.
Speaker 6: I like this.
Speaker 7: I'm like dry as a desert. There's like no nothing.
Speaker 6: You know, I get that way. I get like attention,
Speaker 6: you know, crazy than I get them the apps and then
Speaker 6: I go.
Speaker 7: I'm not like that.
Speaker 2: I really don't care so much about attention. I'm justause
Speaker 2: you get it all day every day on your Instagram's
Speaker 2: four commons you are beautiful. Speaking of which do you
Speaker 2: get like, I'm sure because you have so many followers
Speaker 2: like you probably get like a lot of hate too. No, no,
Speaker 2: no one ever says mean shit.
Speaker 5: To you before, like a long time ago, they used
Speaker 5: to always like be that's I mean, you look like
Speaker 5: a man or like like just dumb shit, honestly, but
Speaker 5: at first I would like fight back, like hock you bitch,
Speaker 5: go wipe your child's ass that like stop being on Instagram,
Speaker 5: like go take care of your child.
Speaker 2: Like you're saying positive things.
Speaker 5: On your bio, but you're coming in trash, like trash
Speaker 5: talking me when I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything to you. I just bother you.
Speaker 2: Then get off my page, you know what i mean,
Speaker 2: Like it would bother me.
Speaker 7: But now I'm just like.
Speaker 2: Keep them coming. You're putting money in my bank.
Speaker 5: So that's honestly how I look at it, Like you
Speaker 5: want to be negative, like I'm gonna let you be negative.
Speaker 2: And even when I go on live. When I go
Speaker 2: on live, I get.
Speaker 5: More they're like, oh, like you're hoe and you're a bitch,
Speaker 5: you're a hope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 5: I'm like yeah, or like nasty stuff like let me
Speaker 5: see your tits and like get up, like chose your
Speaker 5: nipples and I'm like hold on, let me put my
Speaker 5: brush down and I'll let me do it now one second.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But aside from that, like if you read, most of
Speaker 5: my comments are never anything negative and it's like more
Speaker 5: people that I have a connection with, like through social
Speaker 5: media that like.
Speaker 7: Have like always comment on my photos.
Speaker 2: So well that's good, yeah, because I feel like I
Speaker 2: can imagine, like I guess people. I guess maybe makeup,
Speaker 2: like if you're following a makeup instagrammer or like YouTuber
Speaker 2: more because you want to follow them, right like you
Speaker 2: want to look for them. Whereas I think if you'l
Speaker 2: like a cele I don't know, for some reason, I think,
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but it's maybe I think it's
Speaker 2: more like we're looking to you because we we think
Speaker 2: that you know, we're we're more relatable, and also like
Speaker 2: they're looking to you for beauty and inspiration. Yeah, Whereas
Speaker 2: when people might be following like something like a celebrity
Speaker 2: in that way, like a like an actor or something,
Speaker 2: it's more I don't know, sometimes it's jealousy or but
Speaker 2: they still follow them, but they still follow them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like people follow Kimkardashian, but the hater you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, and they want to comment say shit, but
Speaker 2: it's like you know, so maybe it's like d it's
Speaker 2: different in that way. Have you ever had any like
Speaker 2: weird stalkers or anything like that. No, that's good. I mean.
Speaker 5: The current situation that I had with my ex, he
Speaker 5: wouldn't leave me alone still to this day, like call
Speaker 5: and I'm like, why are you calling me?
Speaker 7: I've never answered an email a phone call?
Speaker 2: Like do you think that there's like a higharchy in
Speaker 2: the beauty world when it comes to influencers, do you
Speaker 2: like meaning like, for example, like in rap there's especially
Speaker 2: for women, there's like can only be like one rap girl?
Speaker 2: Like in beauty, like is there like only a few
Speaker 2: like three? I don't really see, Like maybe I'm not
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know every influencer or whatever, but like
Speaker 2: there's like one really big black influencer like that I
Speaker 2: can think of off the top of my head. There's
Speaker 2: a few, but there's the one that you think of.
Speaker 2: And then like as far as like do you think
Speaker 2: like race as far in in in in the beauty
Speaker 2: influencer world, like kind of is in is it in?
Speaker 2: Is it a thing? Like do you notice that?
Speaker 5: Like I never looked at it that way, but now
Speaker 5: that you're saying and maybe so, like I feel like
Speaker 5: there is like an every single race, there is one.
Speaker 2: One you think of or maybe not like one or
Speaker 2: two or something, you know that's getting all like the brand,
Speaker 2: like the bigger brand deals yea, and like because it
Speaker 2: kind of I mean it is it's entertainment. It's like
Speaker 2: the entertainment.
Speaker 6: Well, every industry is gonna be like microcosm of the
Speaker 6: real world, so like you know, like it's gonna be
Speaker 6: in every type of industry.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a little bit of because I remember
Speaker 2: even when we're talking about Depica, when we interviewed Depica,
Speaker 2: oh and she was talking, Yeah, she's so sweet. I
Speaker 2: love her too. And we interviewed her and we talked
Speaker 2: about you know, her being Indian and her always being
Speaker 2: like the token brown girl in the campaign or like,
Speaker 2: and she was like it offended her, but she was
Speaker 2: just happy that she could even be there to represent
Speaker 2: that because it wasn't being represented before. Yeah, And so
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like because she's she but she's she's
Speaker 2: an influencer, but she's kind of moved away from that
Speaker 2: and now I was like more doing her lib tinted brand,
Speaker 2: whereas like, you know, you you were constantly and actively
Speaker 2: like creating content all the time. Like I don't know
Speaker 2: how you do it, Like I don't know how you
Speaker 2: come up with any more makeup looks? That's another thing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how how you are so creative because it's
Speaker 2: like how could like I get asked to do a
Speaker 2: makeup to Tori and I'm like, so a natural beat again,
Speaker 2: my favorite one, more natural. Maybe we'll do like a
Speaker 2: maybe a silver highlight this time. I'm like so uncreative,
Speaker 2: like cause I feel because you're a real artist, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I started as a makeup art and so
Speaker 5: this is what you would get like out of me,
Speaker 5: Like I would never do my makeup because I just didn't.
Speaker 5: I've found my passion doing makeup on others and when
Speaker 5: I started doing it on myself and obviously like I
Speaker 5: got better at it, and I'm like, oh, like I
Speaker 5: can do this, and I can cut my crease and
Speaker 5: I can do a wing win or and I can
Speaker 5: do it a cut. I like so many different ways.
Speaker 5: And then like now I'm just more so inspired by
Speaker 5: like not people that are here like overseas, like you.
Speaker 7: Know people that get so creative.
Speaker 5: Like there's this one girl, I think it's by Brokel.
Speaker 2: She's so talented like her like her skills, her blending
Speaker 2: skills is what gets me every time, and I'm like.
Speaker 5: How, like I spend hours blending my shit still doesn't
Speaker 5: look like that, you know. But it's just like her talent,
Speaker 5: you know, and like I just try to practice to
Speaker 5: be as good as her. I'm not gonna be here
Speaker 5: because I don't want to be here. I just want
Speaker 5: to be as good as her. So I just get
Speaker 5: a like inspiration from like so many different people.
Speaker 2: And I always like talk about it, you know, because
Speaker 2: if you if you weren't doing makeup, what would you
Speaker 2: be doing? Is there any do you have any other
Speaker 2: dreams or aspirations outside of you know, beauty? Uh? Massuse? Really?
Speaker 2: I love giving massages.
Speaker 5: Oh good to know, yeah, because kink I'm so good
Speaker 5: at it that Like even like Angel Macdaddy, he every
Speaker 5: single time, like or at his house, He's like, can
Speaker 5: you massage in my back?
Speaker 7: And I'm like, oh my god, here we go.
Speaker 2: But I don't mind it because like I really do
Speaker 2: enjoy doing it.
Speaker 5: Like I feel like it's just pleasing people, you know
Speaker 5: that I like love to do or a singer, but
Speaker 5: I know I can't a singer, Yeah, I cannot singer.
Speaker 2: What you want to be a singer? For you just
Speaker 2: want to be on stage. Yeah, I just like love
Speaker 2: to I love music.
Speaker 5: Music is like I can't do anything without music, you know.
Speaker 5: So when I do my Instagram videos where there's no audio, like,
Speaker 5: I blast music and like you'll see I show you
Speaker 5: my things, I'll be singing like crazy.
Speaker 2: So if you were singer, what kind of music would
Speaker 2: you be singing?
Speaker 6: R and B?
Speaker 5: Like very Yeah, I'm such I remember I did a
Speaker 5: video with this DJ.
Speaker 7: Her name is DJ Leslie.
Speaker 2: I don't do you know?
Speaker 1: M h.
Speaker 5: She does like a lot of beauty events and I
Speaker 5: have my nineties R and B playlist and one of
Speaker 5: her she went live in one of her followers or
Speaker 5: subscribe or whatever. He's like, oh, she must her man
Speaker 5: must be black because I like listen to like like
Speaker 5: classic nineties R and B, and that's all I listened to.
Speaker 2: I listened to like trap music, but mostly yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like my my kind of music. Fine, yeah, me too,
Speaker 2: me too. Listen to ninety four point seven ninety four
Speaker 2: point seven. Wait, I was listening to that yesterday. Actually
Speaker 2: on the way was ninety seven point four. I was
Speaker 2: ninety four point seven ninety four point seven. I was
Speaker 2: driving to my to meet Happy way and I needed
Speaker 2: like a like a energy happiness boost. Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: put that on and I was like, I do. I
Speaker 2: was feeling real good. I drove there. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm in a really good mood. Nothing's gonna fuck this up, right,
Speaker 2: They said, the commercial fucking radio commercials and they still
Speaker 2: have these. Well, because I don't have my phone, I've
Speaker 2: been forced to listen to the radio past todays. And
Speaker 2: I told you, I'm like, what are they playing on
Speaker 2: the radio or even not even me from my computer.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't even have I don't even
Speaker 2: know these songs. There's stuff like all these specifically LA
Speaker 2: songs that they only play on LA Radio. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't even know who this is? Who is this?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 9: Very interesting Radio point seven. I'm gonna I think I've
Speaker 9: listened to them before. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, you guys, me and Griselda did
Speaker 2: a video. Oh yeah. I went over to her house
Speaker 2: and we did a YouTube video. I don't really think
Speaker 2: it was a tutorial. I don't believe. We just got
Speaker 2: distracted and we forgot to show the products we were
Speaker 2: using and ship like but my my makeup and she
Speaker 2: was late and I had to go pick up Iry
Speaker 2: from the airport from her my baby daddy. You better believe.
Speaker 2: I was like, Hi, what did he say? He needed
Speaker 2: to say shit because he never said shit, but I
Speaker 2: was looking really cute. I'm sure he thought I was
Speaker 2: coming from a very important place because he thinks I
Speaker 2: have a boyfriend. He told me that yesterday. Oh he
Speaker 2: did he or two days ago. He was like, you know,
Speaker 2: you have a whole boyfriend. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: is that what you think? I wonder where I got
Speaker 2: that from. You look at my insta ring. I don't
Speaker 2: even but I don't even post my happy happy bag.
Speaker 2: It's not my boyfriend. Let's be clear. Like, what's her name?
Speaker 7: What's her name?
Speaker 2: Be Simon my boyfriend? What's up? Oh? No, she is,
Speaker 2: but I know that name be Simone too. She's hilarious.
Speaker 2: She's like inspiration. Is she like she had she were?
Speaker 2: She's kind of big and has big glasses and she
Speaker 2: does inspirational like pop.
Speaker 5: While you're confusing her, that's Jay, I know who you're
Speaker 5: talk about.
Speaker 2: She's hilarious. She doesn't like like I like her. She's like.
Speaker 5: She's a comedian and like you have to watch her
Speaker 5: she goes crazy with like men, like she calls them
Speaker 5: their boyfriend, like her boyfriend. She was like, that's my boyfriend,
Speaker 5: but it's like a tone, the tone that she like,
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 2: Have a boyfriend.
Speaker 9: Guys, so very clear, I'm single, no boyfriend, but I
Speaker 9: am in love.
Speaker 2: Her updates when I'm ready to know. I love, but
Speaker 2: I'm single, So okay, call me there. How does one
Speaker 2: take that? Like, I don't know, I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: navigating through my current situation. It's definitely alternatives and I
Speaker 2: don't know. If I don't know, I don't know how
Speaker 2: I feel about it yet, I'm like still figuring it out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because i feel like I'm at a point where
Speaker 5: like I'm blocking my feelings because I just don't want
Speaker 5: to feel that because I feel like I'm ready, but
Speaker 5: I'm scared that I'm ready, you know.
Speaker 6: We don't want to get hurt probably yeah, or waste
Speaker 6: time crazy.
Speaker 5: Like I've recently, like you know, expressed my feelings to
Speaker 5: someone and I was not that I'm afraid of rejection,
Speaker 5: but I was always afraid of that person.
Speaker 7: Not feeling the same way.
Speaker 2: And not that he doesn't feel the same way, he's just.
Speaker 5: Not ready, and he's very he was very honest with
Speaker 5: me and like it hurt, but I also appreciated his honesty,
Speaker 5: you know, because he could have easily taken that and
Speaker 5: like ran with it.
Speaker 2: So that's why I was like asking, like, how do
Speaker 2: you how do you deal with that?
Speaker 5: Like for me, I'm just like I'm gonna shut it up,
Speaker 5: like not feel again.
Speaker 2: I mean I like that. I'm I mean, it's I.
Speaker 6: Don't know, you would like to think that you're like that.
Speaker 6: The shee says, You're not really shutting shit off, like
Speaker 6: you'll numb it for a little bit. You'll like say,
Speaker 6: like well, like do other things so to distract from
Speaker 6: those feelings.
Speaker 2: That overall, like if you feel some way about someone,
Speaker 2: it's kind of there.
Speaker 5: But then they do something and it's like I'm the
Speaker 5: type of person you do something and you just like
Speaker 5: completely turn you off.
Speaker 2: That can happen too, and I'm just like, never mind, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it takes me a while, Like I'm I'm like I'll
Speaker 2: give you, which is probably not good. I Mean, sometimes
Speaker 2: I ignore red flags because I'm like, say, maybe it
Speaker 2: was just that one time, But I'm in the place
Speaker 2: now where I'm like I'm in a place where like recently,
Speaker 2: like I was telling you, like I was me and
Speaker 2: happy bear and an open it's not a relation. I
Speaker 2: don't even know how to describe it, because we're not
Speaker 2: in a relationship, like not even like that, but we
Speaker 2: are in a relationship, because even we're in a relationships,
Speaker 2: it's in a relationship. But I was recently confronted with
Speaker 2: the fact that he is talking to other women, and
Speaker 2: it's something that I haven't yet had to experience because
Speaker 2: when we're together, it's very isolated and it feels like
Speaker 2: we're in a relationship and we don't talk about it.
Speaker 2: But when I saw that, I was like, Okay, we
Speaker 2: need to talk about this because it like when I
Speaker 2: saw it, I was immediately angry. I was immediately super jealous.
Speaker 2: I wanted to like cry a little bit, and then
Speaker 2: I had to like work through my emotions and be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he's done nothing wrong, Like you guys are doing this,
Speaker 2: so either work through these emotions because you're trying to
Speaker 2: try something different and you're trying to like let go
Speaker 2: of this idea of possession in a world relationship and ownership.
Speaker 2: So then let's work through this because this is like
Speaker 2: this is the lesson right here. Yeah, but also like
Speaker 2: being real with myself, like I was saying too, like okay,
Speaker 2: but do you actually like to do this? This is what
Speaker 2: you really want to do though, you know, like would
Speaker 2: you be okay doing this for like another year? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And I don't know. The answer is I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is the first time I've had to really deal
Speaker 2: with it, and vice versa. We've been honest with each other,
Speaker 2: and he can't really deal with it even though this
Speaker 2: was his idea, Like never, never did I think I
Speaker 2: was going to be in a relationship where like the
Speaker 2: man is mad, he cares too much, Like it's usually
Speaker 2: the opposite, and that's why it's like life is so
Speaker 2: fucking hilarious.
Speaker 5: But I think it's because you're so open, Like we
Speaker 5: talked about this, but it's like, give me the choice, and.
Speaker 2: I think that that's where you guys are at, Like
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I need the choice, I need the choe.
Speaker 2: I need to know what my options are. Therefore, I
Speaker 2: need to know what you're doing to make sure that
Speaker 2: I want to continue to do this and vice versa.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know. Relationship ships man confusing
Speaker 2: you're can't be dosing, he asks. Anyway, we have we
Speaker 2: have a someone that wrote in that wants some advice,
Speaker 2: so okay, you can help us answer this question? Is
Speaker 2: this the whole thing? I think? I want to remain anonymous,
Speaker 2: but like, how would y'all communicate? Okay, how would y'all
Speaker 2: communicate with your friends whose man sabotagees trips? She goes
Speaker 2: on without him even if she invites him, telling her
Speaker 2: she ain't finna do this, tell her she ain't tell
Speaker 2: her she ain't gonna do this. Every weekend, he been
Speaker 2: stuck doing this all day. He's been basically, he's been
Speaker 2: doing this all weekend, watching their three kids, just yelling
Speaker 2: I love my friend, but I just want to be
Speaker 2: a better support I just want to be a better
Speaker 2: support system because the whole weekend could have gone smoother,
Speaker 2: but for some reason he had to act like that
Speaker 2: with with her when she's with me? Or learn? Is
Speaker 2: that it a learned to redirect energies? Is that it?
Speaker 2: Mm hm? Basically, how do you talk to your.
Speaker 6: Friend about her toxic baby daddy that's sabotaging you guys's plan?
Speaker 7: Are they together?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 2: I assume so? Yeah, with the baby daddy and her together,
Speaker 2: they watch she's at home, he was at home watching
Speaker 2: their three kids. They came out here from Modesto, California.
Speaker 2: They came to oursh They were coming to our show.
Speaker 6: What she's going to be anonymous because the friend listens, Okay,
Speaker 6: we'll cut that out.
Speaker 2: Anyway. Basically, how do how does she tell her friend
Speaker 2: that her baby daddy's annoying as fuck and controlling? You
Speaker 2: can't really do it.
Speaker 6: I mean, like, I've been in that space, and my
Speaker 6: baby daddy tryed to sabotage anything I ever did by
Speaker 6: calling me seventy five times, calling my friends seventy five times,
Speaker 6: harassing me, calling me names seventy five times an hour.
Speaker 6: And the truth is, there's really not sure you can
Speaker 6: do about it until that friend is done. For like,
Speaker 6: like you just gonna avoid hanging out with her because
Speaker 6: you already know what it's going to be. Or if
Speaker 6: you're like, look, bitch, you either get in the car
Speaker 6: at three or I'm leaving you.
Speaker 2: Like these are the stuffs you have to go through.
Speaker 6: With people in those type of relationships because as long
Speaker 6: as they accept it, you kind of accept it too.
Speaker 2: You don't have to detached from it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you have to know where if you can
Speaker 6: invite her places, and how's the tight time schedule is,
Speaker 6: or she needs to ride by herself because that's just
Speaker 6: what it is, or if you even want to deal
Speaker 6: with that, Like sometimes energy is just so toxic for yourself.
Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, I'm gonna go away for the weekend,
Speaker 5: but my friend's coming and then I already know that
Speaker 5: I'm leading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't invite her. I mean I think you
Speaker 2: have to tell her. I think you owe her and
Speaker 2: to tell her. And because you can't just be like
Speaker 2: just stop inviting her places, because if she's your real friend,
Speaker 2: if she really means a lot to you.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of times in these situations, the
Speaker 6: fucked up part is.
Speaker 2: You do tell your friends a lot. A lot you
Speaker 2: hear them complains.
Speaker 6: I mean this is only in that situation if you
Speaker 6: just hear the same complaints and the same excuses, and
Speaker 6: you're constantly dealing with the same toxic energy. Yeah, at
Speaker 6: some point you gotta just like take it for what
Speaker 6: it is and stop inviting people.
Speaker 2: We have been there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when she's done, she'll be you know, you
Speaker 6: guys can go back to that. But sometimes even for me,
Speaker 6: when I was in that place, I would stop talking
Speaker 6: about it sometimes when I could handle, when I could
Speaker 6: take not talking about it, because I already knew it
Speaker 6: was annoying, already knew I needed to do right.
Speaker 5: Maybe she's not there that her friend is, like, she
Speaker 5: doesn't think it's annoying.
Speaker 2: She probably won't like that. She probably doesn't like it,
Speaker 2: but she's used to it. I mean, she has three
Speaker 2: kids with this man. You know, she's all in right
Speaker 2: now and probably doesn't see the words talks or like
Speaker 2: yeah or is that you know, there's nothing you can
Speaker 2: do boo. Basically you just have to decide, you know,
Speaker 2: is she the friend you invite on trips or not?
Speaker 2: And like you've probably already told her her baby daddy's
Speaker 2: annoying as fuck, right like I would have already told her.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn again, you know, So there's really not
Speaker 2: much you can do. You just kind of like, don't
Speaker 2: invite her on a trip again, and don't you dare
Speaker 2: ever miss don't you ever miss our live show again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's all I got for you.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, that's it for today, ladies and gentlemen, I'm
Speaker 6: starving like Marvin.
Speaker 2: Thank you Griselda for coming on and sharing your stories
Speaker 2: and I love you. I love you too, And yeah,
Speaker 2: check out our video. Check out our video on Griselda's page.
Speaker 2: It's make up by Griselda on YouTube and on Instagram
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Speaker 2: beautiful bomb makeup. And maybe you'll catch her doing her
Speaker 2: beer trick.
Speaker 7: I don't know what beer trick you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna put her on a blast,
Speaker 2: but Griselda's has a beer trick. I can chuck a
Speaker 2: beer in like less than ten seconds. Would you like
Speaker 2: to do that? I don't want to check about I've
Speaker 2: seen it. I get to see it in person. But
Speaker 2: every time, every time she's out, what the fuck? And
Speaker 2: it's usually I feel like it's Mac Daddy that's always
Speaker 2: encouraging you to everybody I see. It's like Angel Angel
Speaker 2: recording it, like watch her go. How drunk do you
Speaker 2: get after that?
Speaker 7: I don't get drunk. That's the problem.
Speaker 2: Beers don't get if you drink them fast, if you did,
Speaker 2: if you drink like if.
Speaker 5: I do like maybe like your four like fast and
Speaker 5: I'd be like buzz no, yeah, not drunk girl, beer
Speaker 5: does Now did you learn that you could do that trick?
Speaker 2: You just did it one day? No, So me and
Speaker 2: my brother, like my brother started checking my beer and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I can beat you.
Speaker 7: And of course the first time, I almost like vomit.
Speaker 2: Because it was so much. It was like so much
Speaker 2: like practices. Oh yeah, I was like, I'm gonna yeah,
Speaker 2: and I still do that. What that mouth did. That
Speaker 2: mouth swallows a whole beer. It knows how to do
Speaker 2: a lot of things. Multi talented. No, I mean I
Speaker 2: brought it up. So anyway, you guys have a wonderful
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