1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Allcopyproducts dot com. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: So the fifteen of the ten, Mary's Gonna score Tucksound. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Slim to the Ground by Puda Baker. 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 3: Like a torpedo, he came flying into the backfield Connor 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 3: to the ten, to the five. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: And then too the end zone of the touchdown. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot com slash podcast. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: Here we go, one hand to catch it a touchdown? 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Oh baby, I'll film. 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Here's Danny Sirek, Paul Calvic and thirteen year NFL veteran 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: Drew Standard. 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: We are one hundred days away from the twenty twenty 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 4: five NFL season kicking off, which means it'll be here 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 4: before you know it, So don't blink. Paul Calvic, former 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: Cardinals quarterback Drew Stan I'm Danny Surrek here on Cardinals 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 4: Red Sea Report. Coming off along weekend, Paul, I can 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: tell you got some color. You definitely enjoying your Memorial 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: Day weekend. 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody redline the funnel meter like yours. Truly, it 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 5: was a battle. It was me against a shed. It 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 5: was a self assembled, do it yourself shed. I'm not 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 5: going to tell you how long it took, but there 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 5: was victory. We got it up and standing late yesterday. 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 5: So I worked my best on deadline. Yes, so doors 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 5: don't open all that well yet. We'll get to that 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: a little bit later. But you know, some of us 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 5: take the off season seriously and some don't. Craig Grieliu, 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, you know Phase three, you know, apparently some 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 5: attaching importance to it and some are not. And once 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 5: again we're just naming names. 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: I didn't know it was going to take just a 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: mere twenty eight seconds for you to give Craig glu 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 4: that's right. 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 5: Here's my question for drewstan what was what was your 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 5: age your final year in the league, and what was 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 5: your disdain for the off season program at that point 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 5: in your career. 41 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, it just keeps dwindling the level of importance. But 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 6: again Phase three is actually there is some merit to 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 6: showing up to that. 44 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 7: I will say that. 45 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 6: And as we talk about OTAs and we're finally there, right, 46 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 6: it becomes this soft opening for the season, where Phase 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 6: one is you know, is what it is. Phase two 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 6: is what it is. But phase three you actually get 49 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 6: on the field and you get those competitive juices flowing 50 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 6: and you get a chance to just kind of be 51 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 6: around what will become this team headed into fall camp. 52 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 6: And that's why you kind of recalibrate everything, if you will, 53 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 6: as up to this point and say, okay, well, we're 54 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 6: still gonna put the base offense in. We're gonna stick 55 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 6: with what we know, We're gonna put our base defense in, 56 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 6: and then you have to build off of that. The 57 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 6: foundational pieces start this during this period where you have phase. 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 4: Three, we are now approaching OTA's voluntary organized team activities. 59 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: It is important to remember that first word there. Voluntary 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 4: for these players Wednesday through Friday this week for the Cardinals, 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: so offense and defense can be on the field at 62 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: the same time. They're not really going up against each other. 63 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: You're not going to see one on one battles between 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 4: cornerbacks and wide receivers. So Drew, as a former player, 65 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 4: what is it you can really get out of OTAs. 66 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's just the speed of the game, right, 67 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 6: get in everybody on the same page. The communication is 68 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 6: of the most important at this point. Again, we're talking 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 6: about base concepts, run checks, defensive fronts, alignments, pressures. From 70 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 6: an offensive standpoint, Hey, this is where I need you 71 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 6: on this particular concept, drawing this route, being able to 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 6: do that full speed with no repercussions. And you know 73 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 6: you're not in game type mentality, but you're trying to 74 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 6: push the envelope a little bit. And it's this slow 75 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 6: burn until you get to training camp. And again there 76 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 6: is a lot of value within this being able to 77 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 6: play at the same speed where you're not in a 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 6: game week, you're not trying to squeeze something in your 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 6: job's not on the line right now. It is literally 80 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 6: learn as you go and they film everything. 81 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 7: You can go over there. 82 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 6: You can readjust things, you can try some new things, right, 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 6: you want to introduce new concepts, you want to introduce 84 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 6: a new philosophy or a new package, or you move 85 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 6: Trey McBride here, you move a running back there, You 86 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 6: try different stuff. And that's really what this portion is. 87 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 6: When a team has been together, when an offense has 88 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 6: been in place for a few years now, right, you're 89 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 6: looking for variations strategically that's gonna add some gamesmanship down 90 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 6: the road. 91 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 5: You can't win a job, Danny, as we know, but 92 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: you can get behind. If you're a rookie and all 93 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 5: of a sudden you're swimming in the playbook. You know 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 5: you have to gain the trust of the coaches. If 95 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 5: you show you can handle it, they'll give you some more. 96 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 5: We had Cody Simon on the big red rage last week. 97 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 5: If he's out there and he is nails in the 98 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: playbook and the calls, I'm guessing he's gonna get more 99 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 5: and more opportunities. You know, the linement on either side 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 5: of the ball. You're not gonna be able to tell 101 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 5: much this time of year. But if there's a rookie 102 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 5: receiver out there and he's got the drops and he 103 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 5: doesn't have natural hands and he's fighting the football, or 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 5: there's a corner who's getting torched in maybe some of 105 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 5: the routes, and you know, there are certain things you 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: can do that show the coaches all right, at least 107 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 5: you're equipped to handle more, and they'll give it to 108 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 5: you if you can handle it. 109 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: Rookies have had enough time at this point to get familiar, 110 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: at the very least with the playbook. You have to 111 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: come and show that you've been putting in that work. 112 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: Speaking of receivers, here's what wide receiver Marvin Harrison Junior, 113 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: going into his second year, said, the offense can accomplish 114 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: during OTA's this week. 115 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 8: Routes on air. This is going out there completing passes 116 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 8: again and timing down of all their routes that maybe 117 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 8: worked on last year or knew this year. So just 118 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 8: us be going to go out there and kind of 119 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 8: just do things. But like I said, with the eyes closed, 120 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 8: it happens so naturally. 121 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 4: Drew, you were talking about the timing and communication that 122 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: can be accomplished this week. Quarterback Kyler Murray has shown 123 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: up the last two years to these voluntary OTAs, so 124 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: under the expectation he will continue that is what we 125 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: can expect to see him out there starting tomorrow. How 126 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: much does that really impact specifically for that receiver. When 127 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: Harrison's talking about the communication and the timing of the routes, 128 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 4: when you've got QB one there who is showing up voluntarily. 129 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 6: Well, he's the franchise quarterback, so right it goes and 130 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 6: flows as he does. So if he's showing up and 131 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 6: he's showing this as a priority, these younger guys are 132 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 6: going to get pulled along and realize this is a priority. 133 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 6: He doesn't have to go out there and worry about 134 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 6: taking a hit or doing any of these things. 135 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 7: It's a timing thing. 136 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 6: It's again for him to be able to take this 137 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 6: offense in the direction that he wants to go and 138 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 6: pull a guy along like Marvin Harrison Junior with him 139 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 6: or some of these other guys that are still trying 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 6: to figure. 141 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 7: Out their role. 142 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 6: Right, you know what Trey McBride's going to bring to 143 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 6: the table. You understand what some of these guys are 144 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 6: going to be, but you're still trying to figure out 145 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 6: these pieces to the puzzle of what this team will 146 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 6: look like come week one. And so when Kyler Murray 147 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 6: is showing up, he is one that really should be 148 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 6: leading the charge for all of this. It just shows 149 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 6: that this is where this team is going to go 150 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 6: for him. And look, make no mistakes about it. He 151 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 6: wants to get back to that MVP caliber type of 152 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 6: player that we saw the Rookie of the Year, the 153 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 6: multiple Pro Bowls, all of these things, and he can 154 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 6: unlock that starting right now. Of showing the nature that 155 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 6: it takes to be that guy. 156 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 5: And there's no doubt he was that guy. I joked 157 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 5: about Aaron Rodgers earlier. If you go back to twenty 158 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 5: twenty one, remember the primetime game at the very end 159 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: of the game where it was the interception in the 160 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 5: end and aj Green didn't turn around. If you go 161 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: back to the very beginning of that game, I think 162 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 5: it was Week eight and the Cardinals were seven to zero, 163 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 5: the discussion, the storyline in the primetime broadcast was the 164 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 5: two leading MVP candidates in the league are going to 165 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: square off in Aaron Rodgers and Kyler Murray. So he 166 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 5: can get back to that spot if he can get 167 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 5: to the point now where going into year seven, he's 168 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: seen everything that a defense can't throw him something or 169 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: can't adjust or switch into something on the fly that 170 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 5: he hasn't dealt with and had the ability to read 171 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 5: and react to with all these weapons, and then a 172 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 5: defense that's been fortified. This obviously is the year Calvin 173 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 5: beachram junior setter. Recently, everyone knows the urgency. Everyone knows 174 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: the Cardinals made moves in the offseason because the time 175 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 5: is now a lot. 176 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: Of consistency on office, which offense, which we will dive 177 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: into a little bit later. A lot of the new 178 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 4: faces though on defense. Six of the seven draft picks 179 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball for the Cardinals 180 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: this year. Here's what seven time Pro Bowl safety Bodha 181 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: Baker had to say about getting these new players up 182 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: to speed this point in the offseason. 183 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 9: There's all these different schemes and route formations that we 184 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 9: call differently here versus other teams. So just everyone getting 185 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 9: along and getting on the same page and being able 186 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 9: to talk, you know, Cardinal football talk is the biggest thing, 187 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 9: and just understanding the scheme and how it works. And 188 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 9: Nick and our coaches do a great job of taking 189 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 9: a step by step in a sense of giving guys 190 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 9: an understanding of how things work and why we're doing 191 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 9: the things we do. 192 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: That's when it gets real, Paul, is when you're a 193 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: rookie defender and you're out on the field and you 194 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: look and you see seven time Pro Bowl or Buddha 195 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: Baker right next to you. 196 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 10: Yeah. 197 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 5: And that was some of the feedback we got, And 198 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 5: that was one of the questions up put to Cody Simon. 199 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 5: You know, what is your welcome to the NFL moment, 200 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: And for a lot of guys, it's just being on 201 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 5: the field and you turn around and there's Buddha and 202 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 5: you're in the same room. And the guys who are smart, 203 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 5: Starling Thomas and Rabbit guys will they'll make sure they're 204 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 5: near Buddha Baker at all times, just through osmosis, try 205 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 5: and learn, all right, what are his processes? What can 206 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: I glean from the football conversations Buddha has with Jalen 207 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 5: Thompson that he has with the coordinators, And that's the 208 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: sort of stuff that at least talking to the rookies 209 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 5: over the last couple of years, and it's a really 210 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 5: young roster that they've gained from a Buddha Baker. And 211 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 5: so for that in mind, it's almost like at this point, 212 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 5: and he likes the site that he's still in his twenties, 213 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 5: but they're calling him uncle because of the bigger beard. 214 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 5: You know, it's getting closer and closer, James Harden to 215 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 5: this point, it's getting so big and at this point, 216 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 5: I mean, he really is a pseudo player coach out 217 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 5: on that field. 218 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: From your perspective, Drew throughout OTAs you can't really go 219 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: up right against the defense, you can still kind of 220 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: get a defender in your face. But from from that 221 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: perspective offensive side of the ball, what can you see 222 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: in a defense that tells you, Okay, they are on 223 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: the same page, they are on the right track, especially 224 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,239 Speaker 4: with the new additions. 225 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think when you hear Buddhist speak and 226 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 6: he's talking about understanding the why behind things, it's so important. 227 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 6: And he talks about cardinals language, right, the jargon that 228 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 6: has to exist within this franchise because everybody understands the concepts. 229 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 6: Right when you become a veteran in this league, you understand, Okay, 230 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 6: this is for verts, this is going to be some 231 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 6: kind of a drive concept, this is going to be 232 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 6: some kind of a mesh concept. But being able to 233 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 6: adapt to that and acclimate to that on the fly 234 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 6: is of the utmost importance because when you're on the 235 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 6: road in Seattle and you can't hear what's going on, 236 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 6: but you just react to what's going on. You don't 237 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 6: have to have Buddha Baker give you a call, or 238 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 6: you don't have to worry about where it's going to 239 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 6: be because you already know and you can anticipate. And 240 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 6: the professionalism that goes along with that is built right now, 241 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 6: that's where the start really comes because I can promise 242 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 6: you as much as shocking all of them looking at 243 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 6: Buddha right now and OTAs if you mess up a 244 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 6: call when there is the games on the line, that 245 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 6: can be the difference between winning and losing. And so 246 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 6: I think the professionalism that he brings to the table, 247 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 6: having all of these guys and the people that they've added, 248 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 6: that really can lead the way for these young guys. 249 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 6: I mean, these young guys have to be swimming. There's 250 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 6: no other way around it. Everything is new to them, 251 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 6: from where they're eating lunch to where they're sleeping, to 252 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 6: trying to learn a new defense, to trying to learn 253 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 6: a new offense or go up against guys. There's a 254 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 6: balance within all of this and there is a certain 255 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 6: standard that needs to exist. And so yes, you look 256 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 6: at Buddha Baker, but when you're here, you have to 257 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 6: be fully intentional with what your role is given that 258 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 6: day because it's going to change, it's going to adapt. 259 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 6: Guys are going to get hurt, Guys are going to 260 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 6: sit out. I mean there was times when I was 261 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 6: here with Carson right we would alternate days, and it 262 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 6: was like, Okay, today's your day where you get to 263 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 6: go out and you get to kind of lead. Klayus 264 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 6: Campbell's not going to be here taking the oda snaff. 265 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 6: He knows how to line up, what to do, and 266 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 6: all of these things, but just the presence of those 267 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 6: type of guys. Again, it's the slower pace that this 268 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 6: is supposed to provide for guys leading and at a springboard, 269 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 6: if you will, in every single facet. 270 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 5: Well, you were almost a player coach, especially initially right 271 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 5: knowing bea system better than anyone. So there was that 272 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 5: element in there. I smiled when you mentioned Buddha and 273 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 5: if you mess up a call, because what did he 274 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 5: say during his presser He said, one of the hardest 275 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 5: things for him is he's a perfectionist, and when guys 276 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: do screw up a call, he's learned how to manage 277 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: his emotions, how to try and be positive. But you know, 278 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 5: it was curious that he cited it, and it makes 279 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 5: you wonder going into year three of this system, if 280 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 5: they can eliminate some of that because he did cite that. 281 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 5: It happened and it was problematic at times the last 282 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 5: couple of years. If that's one of the steps this 283 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 5: defense takes that could be a big deal this year. 284 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 285 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 6: Well, and on defense, right, you have to play as 286 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 6: one of the eleven. Right, if one guy is out 287 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 6: of position, out of his gap, out of his responsibility 288 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 6: and coverage, whatever that looks like. If they rotate the 289 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 6: wrong way, if they don't get the call right, we've 290 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 6: seen what will result in this league. 291 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 7: That's a touchdown. 292 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 6: And when you start doing that, you now have the 293 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 6: ability to simplify things because the personnel is that good. 294 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: Despite going into your nine, Baker is not just evolving 295 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: on the field, but also evolving as a leader and 296 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: in the locker room. And that is a very it's 297 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: it's a good characteristic of what you want from a 298 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: leader in that locker room. 299 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 5: It's one of the reasons you extended him and gave 300 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: him the big money going forward. 301 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely. You can learn more about the Arizona Cardinals twenty 302 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: twenty five season tickets, premium seating, and the all new 303 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: luxury field seating experiences today. For all Cardinals ticket information, 304 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 4: visit Azycardinals dot com, slash tickets more. Red Sea Report 305 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 4: coming up right after this. 306 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 11: Love God taking a shot for the episode that sected 307 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 11: in a US une. 308 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: Dees so burned the second Royer interception for the junior 309 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: from Phoenix. 310 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: Suspcron's gonna be at pick six, Way Johnson. 311 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: We'll take it. Put over a touch down. 312 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 6: H Johnson one of the Thoughts cornerbacks, and the pet 313 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 6: tree serves it to Benchigan pat six touchdown. 314 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: All the rains lay faith before underneath an accept it Michigan. 315 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 12: Will Johnson jump the route cross forward and has it 316 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 12: at the five yard line. 317 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: Will Johnson is one of the best corners in America. 318 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: Will Johnson a second round pick, Denzel Burke a fifth 319 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: round pick for the Cardinals. Two cornerbacks, adding into a 320 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: room that's definitely filling out. As we welcome you back 321 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: into Cardinals Red Sea Report Paul Calvec Drew Stanton, I'm 322 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: Danny Surrex. Some news over the long weekend. It's been 323 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: reported that veteran cornerback Sean Murphy Bunching will miss the 324 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five season with a non football injury. Head 325 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: coach Jonathan Gannon doesn't speak until Wednesday morning, so hopefully 326 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: get some answers on that as well, so the Cardinals 327 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 4: could very likely have to rely on some young cornerbacks 328 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: maybe a little earlier than they had expected. 329 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 5: Paul and you know what, I think SMB was going 330 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 5: to get a run in camp anyway. Yeah, he sort 331 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: of had an up and down last year. There were 332 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 5: some times he found himself on the bench. There were 333 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: times where he played really well and he led the 334 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 5: team with three interceptions. But when you have a Max 335 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: Melton who finished strong last year, a high second round pick, 336 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 5: he would have been challenging for a starting spot. Obviously. 337 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 5: Will Johnson feels like he comes into this league and 338 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: he has every ounce of talent to be a Day 339 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: one contributor and then even a Denzel Burke out a 340 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 5: Round five. Here's a guy who started more than fifty 341 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 5: games at Ohio State. He's been a four year starter 342 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 5: and just going in practice man at Ohio State against 343 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 5: those receivers they'd had over the year. So to me, 344 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 5: this is still the most competitive competitive position group is 345 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 5: the cornerback room. And I'm really curious how this thing 346 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 5: shakes out in camp when. 347 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: You look at some of the names in that position room. 348 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: Garrett Will mostly played the slot, can play outside, although 349 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: we haven't really seen him do that in his time 350 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: in Arizona. We'll be curious to see if that is 351 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: a switch given this news. You've got Max Meltin, Starling 352 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: Thomas Keetrell Clark, Elijah Jones who we did not see 353 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 4: as a rookie last year due to injury, and then 354 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: you bring in Will Johnson and Denzel Burke. So that is, 355 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: regardless of this reported injury to Sean Murphy Bunting, that 356 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: was going to be a position room you were going 357 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: to have your eye on throughout training camp. Drew who 358 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: is one player that absolutely needs to step up now 359 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: this upcoming season. 360 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 7: Well, that's an easy answer. It's Will Johnson. 361 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 6: I mean, for a guy that was potential first round 362 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 6: pick and we were talking about with our first selection. 363 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 6: You get him there and the value of it. But 364 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 6: once you get in this building, it doesn't. 365 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 7: Matter where you were drafted. 366 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 9: Right. 367 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 6: You look these names that you just read off and 368 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 6: they all add a little bit different, They bring a 369 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 6: little bit something different to the table. So that's the variety. 370 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 6: That's the pleasure that you have of looking and say, Okay, 371 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 6: well this is going to be the case and you 372 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 6: can see if this guy works out, but we have time. 373 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 6: That's also what it's going to be It's not just 374 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 6: okay physically, can they do it right? You want to 375 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 6: see Garrett Williams, Can he move out to the slot? 376 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 6: Can he also go from the slot and move outside? 377 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 6: And understand mentally what am I trying to do? What 378 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 6: is going to be the communication that I have to 379 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 6: have and then being able to execute those things. And 380 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 6: I think a guy like Will Johnson I talked about 381 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 6: a couple weeks ago when I was on the show, 382 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 6: has already had NFL exposure, right, There's no acclamation phase 383 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 6: for him. And it's the same thing with a guy 384 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 6: like Denzel Burke. He already knows you know, I heard 385 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 6: his press conference. He's sleeping at home with his parents. Right, 386 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 6: he doesn't have to worry about where he's at. He 387 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 6: knows his way around town. Check that box. Okay, let 388 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 6: me focus on football. Let me focus on being the 389 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 6: best version that I can of myself. And so when 390 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 6: you have that luxury, when you have all that experience, 391 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 6: there is no substitute for experience, right, the amount of 392 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 6: experience that he has, and Paul's talked about it just 393 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 6: going up in practice, right, being able to have to 394 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 6: be at your best every single day, in practice because 395 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 6: if you're not, they've got some other five star guy 396 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 6: that's going to go against the next five star wide 397 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 6: receiver that's going to be a first round draft next year. 398 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 6: So you better show up to practice ready to compete. 399 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 6: And that's really the beauty of it, right. You want 400 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 6: to see these guys that have short term memory if 401 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 6: they get beat, but they're gonna get up there. They're 402 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 6: going to challenge people. You've got to go in week 403 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 6: in and week out in the NFL and really put 404 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 6: your best foot forward because those guys have to be 405 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 6: able to adapt to the surroundings. 406 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 5: What do you think is the biggest challenge for any 407 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 5: rookie corner coming into the NFL. What do you think 408 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: they're going to have to conquer first or presents the 409 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 5: highest degree of difficulty. 410 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 6: I think the hardest thing for them is understanding the 411 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 6: balance between patience and aggressiveness. Right, I've got to be 412 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 6: patient because this guy's got four different releases. He's gonna 413 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 6: go this way, he's going to make me look like this. 414 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 6: Something's gonna happen here at the top of the route. 415 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 6: And if you try to get overly aggressive based off 416 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: of the ball placement, of a quarterback in the NFL. 417 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 6: He'll make you pay and that will be a touchdown. 418 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 6: He'll take a slant that might be a five yard 419 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 6: completion and take it seventy five yards. Right, you have 420 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 6: to understand where your help is. 421 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 7: When is the. 422 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 6: Opportunity for me to break on a football and try 423 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 6: and jump route knowing I have help over the top, 424 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 6: or just be able to say, okay, I know what's coming. 425 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 6: And as Buddha was talking about, right, the concepts are 426 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 6: pretty universal in this league. But the pace in which 427 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 6: they can get on you, the different personnel groupings that 428 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 6: you have to adjust to and adapt to, and then 429 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 6: you also have to be able to make the tackle 430 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 6: because you're going up against the elite of the elite 431 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 6: at this level. 432 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: Here's the learning curve the head coach expects to see 433 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: from Johnson and Burke. 434 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 13: There will be a learning curve with him and Denzel 435 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 13: as well. But those two guys, not just Will but 436 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 13: Denzel as well, really smart, you know what I mean. 437 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 13: They understand football, they understand structures, they understand what we're 438 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 13: trying to get done. Now, there will be a learning curve, 439 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 13: but it'll good. Just get on the grassroom see what 440 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 13: they can do. And you know, just like all the rookies, 441 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 13: get them caught up to speed with what they need 442 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 13: to know to go out and play and play well. 443 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 4: Drew mentioned Will Johnson as a player to step up 444 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: in that room. Johnson has a second round pick. That's 445 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: what maxim Elton was, didn't start right away, shared some 446 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: playing time with Star Thomas until later in the season. 447 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: What about that as a name, Paul as someone who 448 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 4: needs to step up. 449 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 5: And I thought he played really well in December and January. 450 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 5: And I can tell you, and I'm talking about Max 451 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 5: Melton right now, and I can tell you he definitely 452 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 5: caught Jonathan Gannon's eye. Based on the TV show that 453 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 5: we do every week towards the end of the season, 454 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 5: he would bring up Max Melton on his own. Remember 455 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 5: that is his specialty position. That's what Jonathan Gannon has 456 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 5: coached the most as a position coach. And really you 457 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 5: still see him out here and he comes out and 458 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 5: he's talking to guys. And of the twenty eight picks 459 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 5: of Monti Oscipford has made, seven have been corners so 460 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 5: far in the three drafts. So they're trying to fill 461 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 5: that room. They're trying to check that box and they've 462 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 5: been throwing numbers at it, and now, okay, who's going 463 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 5: to emerge? The difference to me and you can agree 464 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: or disagree, and you know you will Drew is that 465 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: Maximum played a lot of man in college at Rutgers, 466 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 5: and he was a three to four year starter. I 467 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 5: think he had a bigger transition to this scheme than 468 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 5: maybe Will Johnson will ever have. Because how many times 469 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon already called Will Johnson a quote perfect scheme fit. 470 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 5: Do we know enough to know what he means by 471 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 5: that exactly? 472 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? Well again, I think he can diagnose what he 473 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 6: wants and how he wants it to look. It's his system, right, 474 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 6: and as you said, he has an expertise of what 475 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 6: that that looks like. And when you're looking at optimal size, speed, 476 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 6: characteristics of what you want, and that's the balance. And 477 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 6: I think the confidence that Will Johnson goes and steps 478 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 6: out on the grass day one, right, and so a 479 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 6: guy like Max Meltin that maybe took a little bit right. 480 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 6: And it's easy, right, you're playing a Manda man. Guard 481 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: that guy across from you. Don't let him get away 482 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 6: from you, right, understand I have help on the inside here, 483 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 6: or we're bringing a pressure and I have no help anywhere, 484 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 6: so I can't let him go anywhere except for I've 485 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 6: got a safety help over the top. When you're playing 486 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 6: zone and you understand the structure of stuff and passing 487 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 6: things off and eyes in the backfield and being able 488 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 6: to react and do all these things, there's a different 489 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 6: art to that. It's a learned trait. Right as he 490 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 6: was talking about, we're gonna get him coached up, put 491 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 6: him on the grass and see what they can do. Right, 492 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 6: this is going to happen where you're going to fail 493 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 6: when you're out there, whether it's in zone, whether it's 494 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 6: in man, whether you're trying to make a tackle, or 495 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 6: you don't fit right, or you're not where you're. 496 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 7: Supposed to be. But make those mistakes full speed. 497 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 6: And that's where I think a guy again, that confidence 498 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 6: is going to carry him over in the long haul 499 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 6: because he's going to go out there and he's gonna 500 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 6: make these mistakes, but make them in practice, make them 501 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 6: on a smaller scale so when you get out there, Okay, 502 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 6: I got this, I understand what this is for. And 503 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 6: I think we get so wrapped up in trying to 504 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 6: not look bad at whatever position we're at, because you 505 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: get exposed out there where DB's right, like, sometimes you 506 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 6: just got to tip your cap and say, hey, that 507 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 6: was a heck of a route and a heck of 508 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 6: a ball, because that will always beat coverage no matter 509 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 6: what it looks like. But if you have strength in 510 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 6: numbers like we have here, that pass rush becomes that 511 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 6: much more important because that will alleviate all of these 512 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 6: guys and they can take it. Take a deep breath 513 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 6: on the back end. 514 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: Paul, How different can a more formidable pass rush, which 515 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: has been a priority this offseason, how can that really 516 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 4: elevate this DB's play not just talk about the players themselves. 517 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 10: Like we have. 518 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 5: So when we had Josh sweat in, he cited how 519 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 5: the Eagles had the number one pass defense in the NFL. 520 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 5: Do you think there's a cause and effect between the 521 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: Eagles defensive front and the ability of their rookie corners 522 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: to excel. They had two of them who played big 523 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: roles all the way to hoisting a Lombardi Trophy. So 524 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 5: if indeed the Cardinals nailed the front seven and all 525 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 5: the investments pay off, to your point, Danny I saw 526 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 5: another stat where they rated you know, quarterbacks with time 527 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 5: to throw and the Cardinals were bottom five. Cardinals were 528 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 5: bottom five. Is a pass defense in completion percentage allowed, 529 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 5: So a lot of that ties directly into the pass rushing. Yes, 530 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 5: you become better as a secondary when dudes are affecting 531 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 5: the quarterback. 532 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 533 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 6: Well, and when you can keep more guys in coverage 534 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 6: as well, right when you can get home with four 535 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 6: and you sprinkle in five. But Nick Rolis has been 536 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 6: bringing all out coverage at time just to manufacture something 537 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 6: or trying to disguise things and do all When you 538 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 6: can line up and just say, hey, this is our best, 539 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 6: come get us, that is very scary for an offense 540 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 6: when you line up there and you can make everything 541 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 6: look the exact same as opposed to Okay, well, I'm 542 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 6: going to use cadence here and identify where you're bringing 543 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 6: pressure from. I can slide and pick it up. And again, 544 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 6: if you give any quarterback enough time in this league 545 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 6: to be able to decipher what's going on, they're gonna 546 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 6: put the ball there eventually. And so you just don't 547 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 6: want to hang those corners out to dry, especially on 548 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 6: the back end or some of these guys that are 549 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 6: gonna have to play safety that will find themselves in 550 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 6: man to man whatever that matchup is, and offense is 551 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 6: always looking to attack that. But if not, if you 552 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 6: don't have a weakness on defense and you're only bringing 553 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 6: four and that time clock for those corners are like, okay, one, two, three, 554 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 6: I know the ball is gonna be out now because 555 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 6: that ball better come out and that's where zone allows 556 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 6: you to get eyes on the quarterback and that's where 557 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 6: interceptions truly can happen. 558 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 4: Rush and coverage is definitely a marriage. Here is what 559 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: nine year veteran safety Buda Baker had to say about 560 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 4: making sure these young dbs are ready to go. 561 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 9: They're understanding it each and every day. They're getting critiqued 562 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 9: by the coaches. You know, you see guys coming in 563 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 9: earlier to get more meetings with the coaches to understand, 564 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 9: you know, the way that they should do things. So 565 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 9: I definitely think the rookies will be ready. You know, 566 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 9: you have me, you have guys like JT and even 567 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 9: Garrett Williams able to help. And at the end of 568 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 9: the day, for me and JT, it's our job to 569 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 9: communicate to our corners whatever they have to do. So 570 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 9: if we're on a game day right now, I could 571 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 9: easily tell our young corners what to do each and 572 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 9: every snap, because that's our job. 573 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: Some exciting one on one matchups to us expect this year. 574 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 4: You've got Jackson Smith and Jigbo with Seattle twice a year, 575 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 4: Davonte Adams now twice a year with the Rams, T 576 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: Higgins and Jamar Chase with Cincinnati. Possibly Travis Hunter with 577 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: the Jags if he's still playing on offense by the 578 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 4: time the Cardinals see him Drew as a quarterback. Are 579 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 4: you intentionally looking for a young dB to hit your receiver? 580 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 6: I mean, you can definitely identify. I would say it's 581 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 6: more on the opposite end guys to stay away from. 582 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 6: Right of guys that you've got to be cognizant of 583 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 6: that are saying, Okay, these are guys that are as 584 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 6: good when the ball is in the air that present 585 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 6: a problem. And are there times where you look at 586 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 6: a young guy and say, man, like, he's a fish 587 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 6: out of water right now, absolutely right, And so you 588 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 6: try to scheme for that. And as you're naming certain guys, right, 589 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 6: some of those guys are better on the slot some 590 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 6: of those guys are better on the outside, So what 591 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 6: does that look like. The versatility of what this room 592 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 6: is going to look like week one could look very 593 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 6: different than what we're thinking right now. But you have 594 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 6: all of those guys that you can sit there and say, okay, well, yeah, 595 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 6: Garrett could be better on the inside. Let's just put 596 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 6: Max and Will out there, see what happens. And you know, 597 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 6: age doesn't matter, doesn't discriminate right now, you have to 598 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 6: have the confidence to go out there and you got 599 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 6: to say, okay, this is a better matchup. Maybe we 600 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 6: have certain guys that are going to travel, or you 601 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 6: love to get to the point where you have a 602 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: marquee corner and say, well, Davante Adams, let's cross him 603 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 6: off and say we're going to travel wherever he goes. 604 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 6: So there's so many different ways. 605 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 7: To do it. 606 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 6: But being able to have all those tools in the 607 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 6: toolbox for Nick Rollace will be very important. 608 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: That is something that Cardinals haven't really had the last 609 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 4: couple of years as a traveling cornerback to really stick 610 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: with the receiver's what's a matchup? A one on one battle? 611 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 4: You are excited to see at this point in the offseason. 612 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 5: Paul Well, I tell you out here in camp and 613 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 5: as we get into mini camp and get into training camp, 614 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 5: just the whole Will Johnson against Marvin Harrison Junior dynamic. 615 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 5: I think it's going to be excellent. It's you know, 616 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 5: Will Johnson cited it, Marvin cited it. They play golf together. 617 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 5: But it's going to be really competitive. And I say 618 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 5: that for the whole. Even Starling Thomas has started nearly 619 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 5: two dozen games the last couple of years. He might 620 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 5: not even make the final fifty three based on how competitive. 621 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 4: This is definitely a position room to watch during camp, 622 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: Will Johnson and Marvin Harrison Junior possibly picking up where 623 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: they left off in college going up against each other. 624 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 4: Cardinals fans, you can be part of the Red Sea 625 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals. Single game tickets are on sale now. Tickets 626 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: are available online by visiting Acycardinals dot com slash buy tickets. 627 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: Murray takes the shotgun, snap back the throw. Now a 628 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: lob near side. Poor mccride in the corner makes the 629 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: catch for the touchdown. 630 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: Ah, that's greasy good right there for Kyler Murray. And 631 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: that was a tear drop a dime. 632 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: Murray to throw a fade right side of the end zone. 633 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: I'm the money to Marvin Harrison Junior. Touchdown. What a 634 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: throw by Murray. That's his fourth touchdown pass, tying a 635 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 3: career high. 636 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 10: Kyler Murray put it out there and Marvin Harrison Junior 637 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 10: went and got it. 638 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: Tex Fitz and let him know that Marvin Harrison Junior 639 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: just tied his rookie record. That's eight touchdown catches, tying 640 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: in with an Kwan, Bolden and Larry for most touchdown 641 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: catches by a rookie in team history. 642 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: Some special moments from the twenty twenty four season for 643 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: rookie wide receiver Marvin Harrison Junior, who capped off that 644 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 4: first year with sixty two receptions for eight hundred and 645 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: eighty five yards and eight touchdowns. Big expectations going into 646 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 4: year two. Welcome back into the Cardinals right see report 647 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: Paul Calvic and Drew Stanton. I'm Danny Surrek. Early early expectations, Paul. 648 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 4: When you're looking at the Cardinals offense last year, which 649 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: was fantastic at running the ball, very consistent. You had 650 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 4: some flashes in the passing game not as consistent. One 651 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: of the overall expectations for now with the consistency we've 652 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: seen stay with this offense through the offseason. 653 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 5: Well, I think it starts definitely with Marvin Harrison Junior. 654 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 5: I know he's wide receiver one the moment, he was 655 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: a Round one draft pick, I get it. But he 656 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 5: can also get a lot better. And first off, he's 657 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 5: won the offseason. We can do a whole show on 658 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison Junior just based on his presser. You know, 659 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 5: a lot of you know, a lot of the offseason 660 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 5: was spent with talking heads like yours showing Jeniez. 661 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: You know, are the Cardinals going to add a receiver? 662 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 5: You know, either via free agency and there's still some 663 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 5: names out there. I get it, you know, and draft picks. 664 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 5: How many mock drafts had the Cardinals going receiver in 665 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 5: round one or round two. Guess what, they didn't draft 666 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 5: a single receiver. I think it's their confidence level And 667 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison Junior, I think it's their confidence level that 668 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: he's going to take that leap into year two. He 669 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 5: definitely wants it. I mean, just based on the fact 670 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 5: he's been living in the weight room. It matters to him. 671 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 5: So if he's better at those contested catches and That's 672 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 5: what he told the media when asked about the how 673 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 5: and the why behind the muscle mass gain. It's the 674 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 5: contested catches. So if he can improve on that, you 675 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 5: know what, I think, that's where the Cardinal's receiver room 676 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 5: and this offense in general, takes the next step. 677 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: He did not tell us exactly how much weight he 678 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 4: put on, but it was no secret that Harrison had 679 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: put on some muscle when he was talking at his 680 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 4: presser to the media last week. You saw last year 681 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: the timing, you saw the route running, you saw the 682 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 4: capability with those contested catches, and he made some of them. 683 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: So to really bulk up and be stronger, that is 684 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: going to make an impact. What is a realistic jump 685 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 4: from year one to year two for a number one 686 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: receiver in a system like this. 687 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 6: Drew Well, I mean for him, you don't want to 688 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 6: put a cap on anything, right. You look at what 689 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 6: he is capable of, You look at his college career. 690 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 6: But when you get to this level, no one cares 691 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 6: what your name is, no one cares that you're supposed 692 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 6: to be the number one wide receiver. They take pride 693 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 6: in shutting you down. They take pride and taking your 694 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 6: confidence away from you on a weekly basis, So when 695 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 6: you have to show up for this many weeks in 696 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 6: a row, you better be prepared and look, whatever he 697 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 6: thinks is going to help him be a better version 698 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 6: of himself, go for it, right. Guys want to lose weight, 699 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 6: they want to gain weight, they want to add muscle, 700 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 6: they want to get faster, they want to work on 701 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 6: contested catches. At the end of the day, when you 702 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: play that position you're one, there's going to be some 703 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 6: bumps in the road because you're getting adjusted again. Same 704 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 6: thing on the other side of the wall. The speed 705 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 6: of the game and how fast it happens. Right, you 706 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 6: hear a play call, you break the huddle, you go, 707 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden you're asked to diagnose 708 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 6: what the coverage is. 709 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 7: Right, is it middle of the field open? Right? 710 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 6: Are all the safeties flying off the hash? Is it'll 711 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 6: field closed? Where the safety's flying to the middle of 712 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 6: the hash right or in the middle of the field. 713 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 6: What are they trying to do? And when you're trying 714 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 6: to do that, run routes, catch a ball, identify things 715 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 6: and do it can be overwhelming, right, There's no fault 716 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 6: in saying that he was a little overwhelmed last year 717 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 6: because the expectations were so high. 718 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 7: What would have. 719 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 6: Been good in our eyes? Right, what will we have 720 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 6: set there and say, okay, he had one hundred catches, man, 721 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 6: and that was warranted. All you want to do is 722 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 6: show improvement each and every week and each and every 723 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 6: year that you do this. And he's got a great opportunity. 724 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 7: Right. 725 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 6: And when you look at what this system is built around, right, 726 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 6: you have a defensive head coach. He doesn't want any turnovers. 727 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 6: So what does that mean? He doesn't want the ball 728 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 6: in the air A lot. We can call it for 729 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 6: what it is. It's just playing and simple. How do 730 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 6: you do that? 731 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: Right? 732 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 7: You be able. 733 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 6: You have to be able to establish the run game, 734 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 6: the ground game. You have to be able to do 735 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 6: all of these things and then have a controlled passing 736 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 6: game push the ball down the field. And again, this 737 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 6: is a league of trends. We're seeing a whole bunch 738 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 6: of cover two. You do not want to throw the 739 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 6: ball when there are seven guys allocated to stopping people 740 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 6: in the back and there's only four on the front end. Right, 741 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 6: So what that means is you now have to run 742 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 6: the ball, get them out of that coverage or win 743 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 6: one on ones, and so when you're seeing a lot 744 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 6: of that coverage, there's help underneath and over the top. 745 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 6: So part of is just figuring out how to get 746 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 6: open again for Marvin Harrison Junior because he doesn't have 747 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 6: those same luxuries that he had before. 748 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 4: Cardinals did run the ball very well. Top seven run 749 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: game averaged more than five yards per carry. Harrison talked 750 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 4: himself on a point you were just touching on Drew 751 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: at his press conference, which was year one was a 752 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 4: lot about what am I doing? What is my route? 753 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 4: What is my footwork and my timing. Now heading into 754 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: year two, it's looking at the bigger picture. How does 755 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 4: what he needs to work on and do for a 756 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: certain play go based off what everyone else is doing, 757 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: looking at the defender and how he can beat the 758 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 4: defender and not necessarily cater himself to what the defense 759 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 4: is doing. And that's something he wants to focus on 760 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 4: in year two. 761 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 5: Here's my question is how can you be more efficient 762 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 5: with the pass reception to pass target rate show sixty 763 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 5: two catches on one hundred and sixteen targets. So for 764 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 5: everything that he did last year, and there were a 765 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 5: lot of great moments. There were seven games where he 766 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: had less than forty yards receiving. So it's the consistency, 767 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 5: it's that confidence Drew talks about, It's the chemistry that 768 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 5: Kyler talked about at the end of the year. I 769 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 5: think you see it in the receptions versus the targets. 770 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 5: And there's something else I talked to Marvin Harrison Junior 771 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 5: about last year at a couple different times, was just 772 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 5: how different is the NFL in terms of disguising coverages. 773 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 5: What you see pre snap is not what you see 774 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 5: post snap, and then that affects the route you run 775 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 5: and whether you're on the same page with a quarterback. 776 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 5: So these are all things that hopefully and I think 777 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 5: realistically can evolve and improve in year two. 778 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: And that all. 779 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 4: Stems with confidence as well. That is a big part 780 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 4: of it, which we have seen with other players. Trey 781 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 4: McBride the tight end, is a great example of once 782 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 4: he had the consistency and he was seeing the field, 783 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: that confidence allowed him to blossom. At the end of 784 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 4: the season, Wide receivers coach Drew Trell was talking to 785 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 4: media and said something he wanted to see out of 786 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 4: his number one receiver was to remember your bleep and 787 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior go out there and act like it. 788 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 4: And Harrison said he's going to work on flip and 789 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 4: a switch, which could be really dangerous for this Cardinals 790 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 4: offense this year. So when we're talking about this offense, 791 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 4: it all stems from quarterback Kyler Murray, who had those 792 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 4: early years where he was an MVP talks and had 793 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 4: a fantastic start to the year. And now that there's 794 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 4: consistency with this coaching staff, with the players around him, 795 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 4: what do you want to see out of Kyler Murray 796 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 4: this year? 797 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 6: Drew Well, his job description has changed. Right early in 798 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 6: his career, he was asked to be a playmaker in 799 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 6: every facet. Every time the ball touched his hands, it 800 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 6: was electrifying of oh, man, is he going to do this? 801 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 6: Is he going to extend to play here? 802 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 7: Is he going to do that? 803 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 6: With that comes a risk and a reward. Right when 804 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 6: it worked out fantastic, right, you think, Wow, what a 805 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 6: dynamic playmaker he has now learned to play within the 806 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 6: confines and structure of this system, within this offense for 807 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 6: Drew Petsing. But really where you want to have it 808 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 6: evolved to, right, is that he is out there and 809 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 6: he has the pencil on his hand. Last he's at 810 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage and he sees something that's going 811 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 6: to tell him, Hey, I need to run the ball 812 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 6: to the left, I need to check to a pass, 813 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 6: and I have to be able to pick up the 814 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 6: protection to my right and slide everybody in and reidentify 815 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 6: who the mic linebacker is so we can do all 816 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 6: these things. That's where he can really grow. And you 817 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 6: want to see him grow because then the communication happens 818 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 6: seamlessly as he looks out there and he gives a 819 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 6: quick signal to Marvin Harrison Jr. And Marvin doesn't have 820 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 6: to think, he just reacts. He goes out there and 821 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 6: he is now on the same page. And the chemistry 822 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 6: that Paulie was talking about, that's so important because when 823 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 6: you put the time and effort in in this phase 824 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 6: right now, it will translate to the field and having 825 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 6: that extra set in eyes and ears and taking it 826 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 6: a step further. With a guy like Jacoby Brissett that's 827 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 6: been here, he can give him cliff notes version, Ah, well, 828 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 6: this is what we can do here. This is where 829 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 6: you need to go, and this is where it's going 830 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 6: to tell you, versus this coverage, we'll get to this play, 831 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 6: because that's where the NFL is going, right, being able 832 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 6: to get to the line of scrimmage and give the 833 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 6: keys to the quarterback and say you, I have this thing, 834 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 6: you take us where we need to go. And if 835 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 6: it's going to be a run play, it's going to 836 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 6: be a run play. If it's going to be a pass, 837 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 6: maybe be a plass play. But every time, you don't 838 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 6: have to sit there and pull a rabbit out of 839 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 6: your hat. Kyler, don't be that guy. Right, you know 840 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 6: we're talking about rushes and I want to run the ball. 841 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 6: I want to That will naturally happen right when you 842 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 6: do that. But your job description is not as a 843 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 6: running back. There's a lot of running backs on this 844 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 6: roster that are capable of that. You're not a running back. 845 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 6: You're a quarterback first, and distributing the ball to everybody 846 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 6: else is the necessity. 847 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 4: Murray has been a name that national media has picked 848 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 4: up and talked about recently in the offseason, and Trevor 849 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 4: Sikima with Pro Football Focus was on the Up and 850 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 4: Adams Show with Kay Adams and had this to say 851 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 4: about the Cardinals QB. 852 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 14: Last year he had his highest big time throw percentage 853 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 14: outside of that twenty twenty one year where he looked 854 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 14: like he could have won MVP the turnover where the 855 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 14: play percentage was still pretty low at two point five percent. 856 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 14: So if he takes that next step up, if he 857 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 14: gets the big time throw percentage into like six seven percent, again, 858 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 14: we're going to be talking about the Cardinals potentially winning 859 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 14: that division. And if Kyler Ball's out, he's going to 860 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 14: have the opportunity to be an MVP. 861 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 5: When it's all said and done. 862 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 4: It's no question, Paul, the success of this team always 863 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 4: stems through the quarterback. 864 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 6: Can you tell me what a big time threw percentage is, PAULII. 865 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 6: I'm looking over here, I'm scratching my head, and I 866 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 6: was like, sure, Paul has to know what this actually 867 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 6: means and what number actually matters. 868 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 5: There was a little question mark that went up in 869 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 5: my thought bubble and I thought to myself, Okay, is 870 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 5: he talking about like third and fourth down? Is he 871 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 5: talking about chunk plays? How is he defining big time 872 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 5: Because if it is chunk plays, I'll say this. Cardinals 873 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 5: were top five in rushing chunk plays last year, but 874 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 5: they were bottom third of the league in explosive pass plays. 875 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 5: So if you're wondering where's the one area where this 876 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 5: offense can get better, it's those chunk plays through the air, 877 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 5: and if they do, I think that's what really makes 878 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 5: this offense lethal. 879 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 4: Having more consistency in the past game to keep up 880 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 4: with the consistency of the run game. 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He is 889 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 2: powering across for the touchdown. 890 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 11: If he knows what's covered dot hurts gonna get in. 891 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 7: That was gonna get the touch. 892 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 13: Plush and thank you everybody. 893 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 10: Come again and Hurts try to go over top to 894 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 10: get him sneaks right under it were first down. Jalen hurts, 895 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 10: Jalen hurts or not you're going touch Bush and Day 896 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 10: get it. 897 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 2: It's not that Jalen hurts Bus. It's that's as they 898 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 2: don't matter. 899 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 10: What's touch their pushing the work. 900 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: Touchdown. 901 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 4: No one does the toush push quite like the Philadelphia Eagles. 902 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 4: If we welcome you back into the Cardinals Red Sea Report, 903 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 4: Paul Calvic, Drew Stanton, I'm Danny Surreck. That was one 904 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 4: of the many things touched on in some league meetings recently, 905 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 4: including the receding which was not voted on. That was 906 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: originally brought up by Detroit, which means if you win 907 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 4: the division, you continue to have that home field advantage. 908 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 4: The toushbush, though, has been a long talk, just because 909 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 4: the Eagles are so good at it and it is 910 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 4: so hard to stop. Former Cardinals offensive lineman a Q. 911 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 4: Shipley was on the Pat McAfee Show and shared his 912 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 4: thoughts on the tush push. 913 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 12: When you look at it, it is a skill. Like 914 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 12: Buffalo tried to do it, they get stuffed. Other teams 915 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 12: have tried to do it, They've gotten stuffed. I mean 916 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 12: it's not nearly as successful with all the other teams 917 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 12: as it is with the Philadelphia Eagles. So if one 918 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 12: team's better than the rest at it, then then they're 919 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 12: clearly doing something right and it's clearly. 920 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 2: A skill set. 921 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,479 Speaker 12: This isn't a play where it's an automatic first down 922 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 12: for everybody across the league. And if it was, I 923 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 12: could understand it. And they've found a way to make 924 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 12: it so good and Jalen Hurts behind has made it 925 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 12: so good, so you can't punish them for being better 926 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 12: than everybody else. 927 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 4: At that has been the discussion, is the problem with 928 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 4: the Toush push or the fact that the Eagles are 929 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 4: so good that it's tough for everybody else to stop them. 930 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 4: Former offensive player Drew what are your thoughts on the 931 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 4: Toush push? 932 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 6: Well, if you can squat six hundred pounds, then yeah, 933 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 6: if your quarterback can do that, I mean you think 934 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 6: about what he brings to the table. And again, nobody 935 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 6: in the league wants to sound soft, right, like they 936 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 6: all kind of indirectly danced around this. 937 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 7: Well, you know, I don't care. 938 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 6: Like everybody wants that thing banned because they can't stop it, 939 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 6: like like we can call it for what it is here. 940 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 6: They want that thing banned because they don't have the 941 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 6: personnel to be able to accomplish that. But I also 942 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 6: think again, when you do that, it's gonna take one 943 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 6: time for Jalen Hurts to get hitting the head the 944 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 6: wrong way. And now your franchise corter out, how badly 945 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 6: do you need a first down? 946 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 7: And here's the other aspect of it. 947 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 6: If I'm him, my next contract better have incentives given 948 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 6: for how many touchdowns I have, because I would much 949 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 6: rather turn around and just hand the ball off to 950 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley. And that's the other aspect. Sakuon Barkley can't 951 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 6: be happy about this, right, you're taking touchdowns out of 952 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 6: his pocket, out of his career, and he's the ultimate 953 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 6: team player because he sat out when he would have 954 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 6: challenged this Russian record. So you look at the yes, 955 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 6: Q is right. This is an outlier of a situation 956 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 6: because one team has found this rabbit foot every time 957 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 6: you get in third and short to extend drives or 958 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 6: fourth and short, whatever it is. And that's great, right, 959 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 6: So find a way to stop it. Stop complaining it's 960 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 6: not going to go anywhere. Don't deem it as unfair 961 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 6: this or that. Just stop it or do something about it. 962 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 6: The other aspect is, don't let him get in third. 963 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 5: And short and Look, there's a lot not to like 964 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 5: about the Touschbush, including the name itself. I mean, just 965 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 5: the word to us doesn't belong in football. Okay, we 966 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 5: think we this divide in nation can agree on that. 967 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 5: Beyond that, are you punishing Philled Health for eradicating it, 968 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 5: for banning it just because they're better than everyone else? 969 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 5: So if it's here to stay, and it is for 970 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 5: this season at least, if you're another team, do you 971 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 5: take another player Drew? What sort of risk is it 972 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 5: if we train? 973 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 10: Oh? 974 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. Cardinals rookie Jordan Birch out of Oregon. 975 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 5: You see his fake punt, he's six four, two seventy something. 976 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 5: Do you put him behind center and all of a sudden, okay, 977 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 5: here we go. 978 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 2: Who wants them? 979 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 5: And you snap it to the big guy? 980 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 7: Yeah? 981 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 6: Then I would sit there and say how many snaps 982 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 6: has he taken? And you get him in a real 983 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 6: time game and the ball hits the ground and then 984 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 6: you're Mark Sanchez two point zero? 985 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 4: Oh oh man, now we all know what that's about. Hey, 986 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 4: maybe we see some more Clayton tune or possibly some 987 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 4: Jacoby Bursett for some Cardinals push pushes. 988 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 5: Maybe I mean. I remember talking to Josh Dobbs about 989 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 5: it and he said, you know, he he said, once 990 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 5: you just go ahead and you stoke it forward, you're 991 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,959 Speaker 5: off your feet and you're along for the ride. He said, 992 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 5: he said, literally, it's like a surfer. You cut your 993 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 5: wave and you're just along. And he said he at 994 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 5: one point look over at the yard marker to see, Okay, 995 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 5: have I passed it? He said, I I just become 996 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 5: the football. They're moving me down the field. 997 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 7: That sounds awful. No, thank you, Nope. 998 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 4: Something else that was brought up in the league that passed. 999 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 4: NFL players will be able to participate in flag football 1000 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 4: in the Olympics in LA in twenty twenty eight. Each 1001 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 4: team is going to be composed of ten players, five 1002 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 4: on the field, five substitutes. It's one player per NFL team, 1003 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 4: so you can't snag a Joe Burrow and a Jamar Chase. 1004 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 4: But it is exciting as flag football is growing that 1005 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 4: NFL players are going to have the opportunity to be 1006 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 4: a part of that. 1007 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 5: They're two big initiatives league wide. One is international games. 1008 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 5: Two is flag football and flag ties in international because 1009 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 5: that's how the game goes global. That's how people start 1010 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 5: playing it around the world. That's where a lot of 1011 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 5: people around the world will see it for the first 1012 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 5: time at the twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics. 1013 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not far away from every team playing an 1014 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 4: international game at some point. You can get ready for 1015 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five season with the latest gear from 1016 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 4: the Cardinals team shop. Get your hands on the hottest items, 1017 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 4: including the recently dropped Marvin Harrison Junior Jury. Visit Easycardinals 1018 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 4: dot com slash shop today. Thanks so much for tuning 1019 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 4: into The Cardinals Red Sea Report. 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