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Speaker 1: A lot going on, breaking news out of Philadelphia, the

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Speaker 1: impacts it has not just on Jalen and the Eagles

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Speaker 1: start here because we woke up depending on where you

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Speaker 1: lived to the breaking news of Jalen Hurts got a massive,

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Speaker 1: massive extension, And there are so many angles of this,

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Speaker 1: of it's not about where you start. Now. Obviously he

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Speaker 1: right to them. It's flowing to coaches, It's flown to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, and obviously, if you're a really

427
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: good quarterback, a lot of money flows towards you. A

428
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: couple other things fire through. Bryce Young has officially canceled

429
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: all his visits. All signs point the betting markets to

430
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: him being the number one overall pick in the draft. Listen,

431
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: you just watch him play for two years. It's not

432
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: really debatable. One thing that's going to be impossible to

433
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: argue because we won't know until he has to play.

434
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: It's just a size. He's very small. Now will that

435
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: translate to him getting hurt? Only time will tell. But

436
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: his play, he's going to be able to play. He

437
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: played behind It's like, well, how's he going to see?

438
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: He played at Alabama. Who you think is playing garden

439
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: tackle for them little tiny people? Of course not. I

440
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: mean they got NFL guys playing an offensive line. So

441
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be canny, stay healthy. That to me

442
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: is my only question. Every every box he checks, production, instincts,

443
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: arm mind work, ethic, character, resume. I mean, he's done

444
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: it all. It's just hell, he even played at Alabama

445
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: with players that aren't as good as some previous heiress.

446
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: It's not like he was throwing to Jerry Judy and

447
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: some of the stars they've had, you know, Ruggs, who

448
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: obviously is in a bad situation. I'm trying to think

449
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: who's the group is Ruggs, DeVante Smith, and Waddell. I mean,

450
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: he he's not playing with those guys at all. Another

451
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Speaker 1: story day, and I asked some people around this this

452
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: weekend about Nick Cassario because there were some rumors that

453
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: he was he's out right, he's gonna get fired, and

454
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of people to kind of in the notes

455
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Speaker 1: that I have not heard that, not that that's not

456
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: a room. They've seen the rumor, but they don't know

457
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: if there's validity to that. Well, today Cassio did his

458
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: pre draft presser. Smart. The NFL makes every GM or

459
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: head coach you know, participate. It just gets the he

460
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: gets the new cycle going keeps slow times not as

461
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: much going on, especially this week in the league. But

462
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: Casario basically had like Leonardo DiCaprio, as Florio wrote, like

463
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving. He basically said it's embarrassing that he

464
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: even had to address it. Spent multiple years building this

465
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Speaker 1: thing up, and now they're kind of ready to move forward.

466
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: And to me, there are two questions surrounding the Texans.

467
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Speaker 1: We hit this up, I think our last podcast or

468
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Speaker 1: last week. Would they take a quarterback? And if it's

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Speaker 1: not Bryce Young, it doesn't look like they're going to

470
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Speaker 1: take a quarterback. And would Casario not be the GM

471
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Speaker 1: because we had people asking last week like would Adam

472
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Speaker 1: Peters go with Tmiko? Nick Cassario did not sound like

473
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Speaker 1: a guy who's not going to be there, which if

474
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Speaker 1: I'm him, I would want to be there because I

475
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: think Demko is gonna be really good. Reason he hired, right,

476
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: and now they got all this draft AMMO. So these

477
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: next couple of years will kind of define Casarrio's career

478
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: because let's face it, right now, it hasn't gone really well.

479
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: It's been pretty ugly, it's been pretty embarrassing with those coaches. Now,

480
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: there have been other variables, right, no one would take

481
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: the job, especially two years ago. But assuming he's telling

482
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Speaker 1: the truth, maybe that's what he thinks we'll see. I mean,

483
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty fascinating because the week after

484
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: the draft is usually wins. There's some curve balls. I've

485
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: been saying, I'll be shocked if Sean Payton with the

486
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos just it's status quo there, like the GM

487
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: just gonna stay. I don't know, I have a hard

488
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: time seeing that one. A couple other things, the Chiefs.

489
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: I love this. This just shows you there's such a

490
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: high level operation right now. A lot of teams these

491
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks have have shown up for these

492
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: voluntary workouts, and in this original phase, it's really just

493
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: some film and some lifting that you're not like on

494
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: the field with coaches or anything. So it's not you know,

495
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: most of these guys, especially veteran quarterback at home working

496
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: out like this is not that crazy or just players

497
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: in general. This is not the seventies and eighties when

498
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I drank beer all summer long

499
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: and I just showed up to get in shape. Like

500
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: those days are over. Good guys work out, stay in

501
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: shape all year long. There's no just firing down hot

502
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: dogs and drinking twelve vers, you know, for six months

503
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: and then just showing up in training camp. Like time

504
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: for the Junction boys to work it off. Like, no,

505
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: that's not the case, Nick Boast. I've seen Nick Bosa

506
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. He doesn't even show

507
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: up in the off season. He comes back every single year.

508
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: He's more chiseled. It's like he ain't just at home,

509
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: you know, screwing around. And that's most players. But the

510
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: Chiefs just do Zoom only no one's even there, and

511
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: people go work out with Patrick Mahomes like it's they

512
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: just got they got a good thing going. Man. The

513
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: coaches can still focus on the draft with the front office,

514
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: spend a couple hours on the zoom and just worry

515
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: about Patrick throwing in Texas with his guys. I'm telling you,

516
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: I ran into Travis Kelce last week, went up, introduced myself,

517
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: told him that I worked for Coach Read. He couldn't

518
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: have been any more normal. Just it was just a

519
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: really high level, you know, for a guy that's you know,

520
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: on top of the world, really famous. Again, this is

521
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: a small, maybe five to ten minute interaction. It was

522
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: just impressive. I mean it was just down to earth

523
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: cool guy. And then I watched him because I went

524
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: and hit balls. He's got a buddy that's like, you know,

525
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: a fringe pro corn fairy guy. They went and hit

526
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: golf balls on the back of the range because that's

527
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: where the pros go, and I just want he was

528
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: putting chipping for like three hours. Now again, it's not

529
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with football, but you can't dispute

530
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: these guys work ethic. I mean, they got some focused

531
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: cats man And even Travis was like, uh, when you're

532
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: going back Kansas City because he stays out in Scottsdale

533
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: for a little bit, He's like, yeah, we got OTA's

534
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: These guys love football, the Chiefs. They're gonna be my

535
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: pick to win it again. That much. I don't see.

536
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying they're going to win the

537
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but I don't see how you don't pick

538
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: them next year going into the season, assuming that everyone's

539
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: healthy by the time they get to week one. Arch Manning,

540
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: who's technically not the starter right now at the University

541
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: of Texas, Quinn Yours, the guy that went to Ohio

542
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: State and then transferred is I guess Sark said he's

543
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: the starter, and obviously Arch is you know, high school

544
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: guy comes in early, made his spring football debut. So

545
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: he's got fifteen offseason practices in spring. The spring game,

546
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: he was like five or thirteen whatever. I do think

547
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: it is going to be one of the biggest stories

548
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: in college football if the starter struggles at all. Arch Manning,

549
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: arch Manning, arch Manning. I don't know in recent memory

550
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: if there has been a player as famous as this

551
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: coming coming into college. Right, you become famous really fast.

552
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: The t Bows, the Reggie Bushes, the Clownies, whatever. Once

553
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: you're at school and Julio and Clowney and Julio and

554
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: some of these huge recruits have momentum. But arch Manning

555
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: obviously has a ton of momentum the number one recruit.

556
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: But I think he is like on a completely different

557
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: level in terms of the way that we talk about quarterbacks,

558
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: just because of Peyton and Eli. I mean, you can't

559
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: turn on if you're just flipping channels and you go

560
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: by ESPN and listen. I like these guys. I think

561
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: they're pretty entertaining, really entertaining. It's just not quite the

562
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: same with the Gruden quarterback camps. They're essentially doing that

563
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: with Peyton and Eli, and even arch Banning plays a role.

564
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: I watched a couple, it's just not as good. Part

565
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: of what made that kind of thing so special is

566
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: was Gruden was just kind of crazy. I mean that

567
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 1: that was musty TV. You didn't even need to know

568
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: that much about the quarterback in college to just be

569
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: entertained by that content, and if you did, if your

570
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: team was interested in the player, if you're a fan

571
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: of that player, it was. Gruden's Quarterback Camp was easily

572
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: some of the best spring content ESPN did, if not

573
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: the best for non games that they had. And try

574
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: to watch some of this Peyton Eli stuff. It's just

575
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: not as good. It's not even close to as good.

576
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: It's no fault of their own. I think part of

577
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: it was Grewes is fucking nuts and it was just very,

578
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: very entertaining, and it's just not quite as good now.

579
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: But Arch Manning, I don't know. Man I think sarks

580
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: on the hot seat going into the season, given that

581
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: he has not had much success. They're headed to the SEC.

582
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: I think at minimum he's got to win like nine games.

583
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: I can't see a six and six, seven and five

584
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: season flying again in Texas. They're paying too much money,

585
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: they have too much hype, and again that SEC thing

586
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: I think there is tangible pressure on him. Jalen Carter

587
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: is now on the betting websites is the favorite to

588
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: go to Seattle. That feels pretty likely unless they take

589
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback, which I would not count out yet because

590
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: I think they're tailor made right now with Gino being

591
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: the ideal bridge quarterback where they're still able to win.

592
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: And it's different because I wouldn't say Geno is as

593
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: good as Alex his career, but last season was better

594
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: than anything Alex had done in terms of touchdown passes.

595
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: Somewhat situation like that. You could start Geno, you could

596
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: have a Patrick Mahomes. I don't. I'm not saying they're

597
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna draft Patrick Mahomes, but my point is you can

598
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: just red shirt a guy and sit them. The forty

599
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: nine ers did that with Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo.

600
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: I think they're situated and when are they ever going

601
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: to be picking fifth? We saw everyone thought they were

602
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: gonna suck, including myself. What happened? They went to the

603
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: fucking playoffs. They won nine games. They were really good,

604
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: I mean relative to what anyone thought they were gonna be.

605
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't see why now they got draft picks. I

606
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be competitive again. So I would imagine

607
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: that it's between Jalen Carter and the quarterbacks. If they

608
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: don't take quarterback and Jalen Carter's there, they were one

609
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: hundred percent to take Jalen Carter because Pete historically in

610
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: college to the Seattle push the envelope on this stuff

611
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: as they should. I mean, you take flyers. They've done

612
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: it before and they've had success, so I would expect

613
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: him to do that again. Anthony Richardson. Every time I

614
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: look up, he's taking a different visit. I think he

615
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: is one of He's a guy that if you told

616
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: me goes to number two or three, totally believe you.

617
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: And if somehow he's there, like I'd have a hard

618
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: time seeing him make it past Seattle. I really would.

619
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: I think he goes in the top five. You know,

620
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that crazy if you took

621
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: him one, if you really liked the guy. We've seen

622
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: crazier swing for the fences. None of these guys are

623
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: guaranteed to be good. I love Bryce Young, but there's

624
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: no guarantee. This is the draft. This is not Trevor

625
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Andrew Lock ain't walking through that door. I'm always

626
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: a big believer, just in life. Swing for the fences

627
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: when there's not an easy route, right that there's no

628
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: easy route in the draft. Nothing is guaranteed. Galen Carter's

629
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: the best player in the draft on tape. I don't

630
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: even think it's really debatable. If you told me that

631
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: he's out of the league in five years cause he

632
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: just can't keep his head on straight, I believe you.

633
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: I believe you because you just can't trust him. If

634
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: you told me he makes Pro Bowls and gets a

635
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: shit together and matures believe you too. You talk to

636
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Speaker 1: some people about Will Anderson, who I like. You know,

637
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Speaker 1: he can't really bend. He's I like him. I mean

638
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Speaker 1: I would take Will Anderson and hartbeat but not everyone's,

639
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, a true believer. Uh, and last but not

640
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: least a lot of people push back on my take

641
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Speaker 1: on Saquon Barkley. When I say a lot of people,

642
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 1: I just I saw it on social media. Middle Coff,

643
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: you gotta do what's good for you. You gotta take

644
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Speaker 1: care of yourself. It's his time to get paid, which

645
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Speaker 1: I'd agree if he was a fourth round pick. It's like, well,

646
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, three of his four years had a lot

647
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: of success. He's uh, he's only made four million dollars, right,

648
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: he's only made five million dollars in his career last year.

649
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: That was the big argument on dk AJ and Debo.

650
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, all these guys are second round picks.

651
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: None of them have made big money. Time for them

652
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: to get paid, and they all did. I googled it

653
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: because I was like, well, where did Saquon Barkley go

654
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: again in the draft? Oh yeah, he went number two overall.

655
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: What was he doing last year? Oh yeah, he was

656
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: playing on his fifth year option. How much is Saquon

657
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: Barkley made in his career? I wrote it down thirty

658
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: eight point six million dollars. Now. I get he plays

659
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: in New York, where it's expensive to buy a house

660
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: and taxes are large. But if I tell you whether

661
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: you live in New York, California, or fucking Texas, I

662
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: gave you thirty eight point six million dollars, I would

663
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: call that generational changing money. So the Giants have paid

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Speaker 1: a premium for Saquon Barkley thirty eight point six million dollars.

665
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: He has been compensated and now with the franchise tag

666
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: if he plays on it, he'll have If he plays

667
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: just on the tag, which he claims he's refusing to sign,

668
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: he will have made close to fifty million dollars in

669
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Speaker 1: the first six years of his NFL career. Fifty fucking

670
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: million dollars play running back, a position that all of

671
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: us agree like, yeah, I wouldn't want to pay that

672
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna make it fit. He has been properly compensated.

673
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: He's been paid very very well for a guy that

674
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: has had some moments and been really good and also

675
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: been mia like sometimes guys that are laid around picks

676
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: like underpaid. For sure, Segoe Parkley has been underpaid. If anything,

677
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: he's been overpaid. And you could make the argument he's

678
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: has been properly paid. But like there are guys now

679
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: holding out throughout the league for these voluntary workouts, which

680
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: I've been going to OTAs for years. They've never been

681
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: less important, at least on the field, right, And like

682
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: I said, these are not guys doing beer bongs all

683
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: off season, eating ho hos and pizza every night. Like

684
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: most of these guys come back, they look relatively normal

685
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: now some some of the Linemen like most of us

686
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: normal human beings, can you know, fluctuate with weight. But

687
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: listen the voluntary workout. Some of these guys, there's a

688
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: million names I've seen, from Josh Jacobs to Quinn Williams

689
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: to Saquon Barkley to Dexter Lawrence that are not going

690
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: to show up. And like to me, all these guys

691
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to voluntary or excuse me involuntar, like

692
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: you got to be there. Voluntary is your choice. Involuntary

693
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: or excuse me? Mandatory is the way to say it.

694
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: The mandatory otis are you gonna show up? They all will? Right,

695
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel demanded a trade. I'm not showing up for anything.

696
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: What did he do? Mandatory? He was there? Now, it

697
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: was like a holden. He didn't actually do anything, but

698
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: he was there. So all these guys, it's this is

699
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: an easy one. You know, the rubber meets the road

700
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: come training camp and the training camp. Now with I

701
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't call it the irrelevancy because I still think there's

702
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: a level of like, if I'm Sakauon Barkley, You've paid

703
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: me thirty eight million dollars and you're prepared to pay

704
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: me another eleven million dollars, like I probably should show

705
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: up to work, right, Quinn Williams, That one's tough. You know,

706
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: he had a big breakout year last year. Pretty sure

707
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: he was a pretty high pick too, hasn't he made

708
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: a lot of money? Like Dexter Lawrence a little more complicated.

709
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: I think seventeenth overall pick right sees Daniel Jones get

710
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: paid in a vacuum gets he's a really really good player.

711
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: But what do you pay for a guy like that?

712
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: You know, I get it that one probably has more

713
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: validity than something like Josh Jacobs. He helped carry the

714
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: Raiders the playoffs. Obviously, he's a first round pick, twenty

715
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: fourth overall pick, so it's not like he made Saquon money.

716
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: That one gets a little complicated. But I don't view

717
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: it if you don't show up for some lifting and

718
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: film sessions, that is that big a deal in terms

719
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: of your ability to keep playing at a high level.

720
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: I do think there's a level of respect for certain

721
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: players that like is good business, and I think most

722
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: teams agree that, Like, when you're around, it's easier to

723
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: get a deal done around you. Every day, we can

724
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: figure it out like no one for the most part,

725
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: Like the Ravens were never trying to screw Lamar Jackson.

726
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: They offered him a lot of money. Now, when you

727
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: have that mindset and listen, I've done enough deals at

728
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: this point in time in my life when you go

729
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: into a deal with a bad frame of mind, or

730
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: you get to a point where you think you're getting

731
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: taken advantage of. And I've bet a lot of people

732
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: listening to this. Sometimes, you know, whatever you do for work,

733
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, am I getting taken advantage of? It's

734
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: it gets to your own head. You can start overthinking it,

735
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: you start getting bitter, s're getting pissed off. It's I

736
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: understand those thoughts creeping into any player, said any humans head.

737
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: But sometimes that's where you got to take a deep breath,

738
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: take a step back, like is this truly happening? Am

739
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: I getting taken advantage of? Or are we both benefiting

740
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: from this? Right? Or have they benefited at times? And

741
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I've benefited at times and I've screwed them, They've screwed me,

742
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: And it's it's relatively an even marriage here right where

743
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: it gets out of whack is like are they getting

744
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: eighty percent of this deal and I'm only getting twenty percent,

745
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: and I think that the better and more quickly you

746
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: can get to a resolution of like, no, this is

747
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: actually pretty fair. It's easy to be because it's it's

748
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: very hard to operate and money's all relative. Like I

749
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: can be paying you fifty grand if you think you're

750
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: getting screwed, you're gonna be pissed off. I can pay

751
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: you fifty million dollars. You think you're getting screwed, you're

752
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: gonna pissed off. We're all humans that the wiring doesn't change.

753
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: So when that's in your head, I get, when it's

754
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: in your head, you're mad, But should it Like, are

755
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: you correct for thinking that? And the faster you can

756
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: realize that? Yeah, Actually, if I'm Saquon, the giants are

757
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: taking pretty good care of me, paid me a lot

758
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: of money, and they're prepared to pay me even more. Right,

759
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: Like it's I'd say it's been pretty a fruitful relationship

760
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: for all parties, right for everyone you know under this

761
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: uh this contract, myself and them. Okay, let's dive into

762
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: the mailbag. Add John middlecopp is the Instagram fire in

763
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: those dms and get your question answered here on the podcast.

764
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm watching this show. I'm sure many of you have

765
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: as well, called Beef. It's on Netflix. I'll be honest.

766
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: When I watched the trailer, I'm like, I don't know,

767
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: but I heard enough people talking about it just on

768
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: the innerweb, on the internet streets. I was like, you know,

769
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: I check it out, glad. I did excellent, very very entertaining,

770
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: very different from most things you'll watch. It's just just

771
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: a unique show that's entertaining. It's good, funny yet serious.

772
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: I like it a lot, I really do. I'm not

773
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna lie succession, you know. I still got to watch

774
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: Sunday's episode. This season feels, you know, it's probably the

775
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: proper time to end the Bad Boy. Have really enjoyed it.

776
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: Do enjoy the acting, enjoy the characters. But not going

777
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: to do any spoilers because it's still relatively new. But

778
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: it's I'm over it would be strong, but I'm cool

779
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: with it going away. Love the show. Wanted to ask

780
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: you what you do you make of this hurts contract.

781
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of contraddicting input on Twitter. It's

782
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: team friendly, it's putting Eagles in cap Hill. What you say, Well,

783
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: the way this stuff works. And I don't know if

784
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: I talked about it when we broke down the positives.

785
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: Obviously Jalen earning it, the Eagles doing this deal, the

786
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: cost of a quarterback's cost of a quarterback. When you're

787
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: going to extend a guy and he's a Pro Bowl

788
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: level guy, right, it's just is that guy worth giving

789
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: the massive extension? Like Dak was a Pro Bowl level guy.

790
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: My pushback is like, God, is he worth this money?

791
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: And you could argue, you know, I think it's up

792
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: for debate, and to me, he's kind of where I

793
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: draw the line. Like Kyler, I never would have given

794
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: that contract to right Lamar, it made sense to do

795
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: it after year three. Now I'm probably guilty. Maybe I

796
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: said at the time I wouldn't have done it because

797
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: there were still some unknown with him, But I think

798
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: looking back, you would have liked to do it after

799
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: your three, Right, Joe Burrow is gonna have it done

800
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: after your three. Josh Allen had done after your three.

801
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes had it done after year three when you have

802
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: a really good player. Now, because he's a second round pick,

803
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: he has a four year contract, so this is a

804
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: contract extension. So it's basically to go on his fourth

805
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: year and then you get five years. You can allocate.

806
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a capologist, but you can basically

807
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: spread the money throughout a period of time. And you know,

808
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: if the salary cap keeps going up, even if he

809
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: has a large quote unquote cap hit in three or

810
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: four years, if he's playing at a good, good level,

811
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: you could always extend him again. So you kind of

812
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: just keep pushing the can down the road. It's going

813
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: to have impacts when you when you pay someone a

814
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: lot of money, it impacts your cap at one time

815
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: or another. Maybe not right. The forty nine Ers gave

816
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: Hard Grave forty million dollars signing bonus. His salary cap

817
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: hit this year was six million dollars, so it's the

818
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: CAP's there to be manipulated. Now. In a couple of

819
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: years is going to be pretty big, just like Jalen's.

820
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: I bet this year is not that big, but in

821
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: a couple of years it probably will be. And if

822
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: he's playing at a high level, you'll want to give

823
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: him another contract. So I would not worry as much

824
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: about the cap as long as he's good. You know,

825
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, even with a team friendly deal, still makes

826
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: a lot of money, still has large cap hits. But

827
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: if you play like a pro bowler and you're good

828
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, that's really all that matters. Can you

829
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: settle a debate once and for all for all of

830
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: us between Perdy and Lance? The Niner fan base is

831
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: somewhat split on this one. I believe Purdy is better.

832
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: I just watched the tape. Purdy to me is more

833
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: accurate in Kyle's system and seems to be the bread

834
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: seems to be the bread and butter of the offense.

835
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: What's your take on them? And who do you think

836
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: should be quarterback one? Well, Purdy is the quarterback one

837
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Speaker 1: if he's healthy. Why because he played really well and

838
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: like you said, he's accurate, and Trey has not been.

839
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: But he's hurt and he said he's doing this thing

840
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: with Buffalo Wild Wing. So he talked to reporters the

841
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: other day and he said that I'm not even sure

842
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: if I can play this year. Now he doesn't. He's

843
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: just saying that like he's just got his brace off,

844
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: so he doesn't even know if he could throw. If

845
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: he's fully healthy. It's not even a question that Brock

846
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: Purdy is the quarterback one now. Like we just talk

847
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: with Jalen, Guys improve, people get better, and a lot

848
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: of that happens when no one's looking in the dark. Right.

849
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: Think of most of your improvements, whatever you've done in

850
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: your life is usually behind the scenes, right, Like you

851
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: don't get no one's staring at you, cold calling people,

852
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: no one's staring on you. If you've lost weight just

853
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: not eating right, you got to put in the or

854
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: eating healthy, Like putting in the work in anything you

855
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: do is usually not when people see now in football

856
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: because some of these practice of public will see some

857
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: of it. But he can improve the difference of Jalen

858
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: and Purty or in Lance, if I was to even

859
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: pushback on myself is reps. You know, Trey Lance has

860
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: not really played. He did not play in twenty twenty.

861
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: He read shorted. In twenty one, he only got basically

862
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: a couple starts, and last year because of his injury,

863
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: he only got really a game. Or even Jalen, you know,

864
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: got to play a lot. Multi year starter at Alabama,

865
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: full year starter at Oklahoma, got to start playing five

866
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: games at the end of his rookie year, full time starter,

867
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: second year full time starters his third year. The practice

868
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: reps matter in football, they really do. That's iron sharpens iron.

869
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: It's when you get better. It's when you improve. Just

870
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: like you know, if you're a podcaster, the more podcast

871
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: you do, the better you get at it. If you're

872
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: a writer, the more you write, the more confident you are. Whatever.

873
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: It's the same for any medium. But in football it's

874
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: not just about practice. Like the practice then you get

875
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: to put it to the game. And my golf analogy,

876
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: like you can hit all the balls you want, you

877
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: can practice on the range, you can chip and putt.

878
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: When you go to the course, it's a whole different ballgame.

879
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: Like you can practice up against anything. But once you

880
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: start playing a different team, you don't know what's coming.

881
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: You don't know where their defenders are going to be.

882
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: And that's a question that only games can answer. For

883
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, even if his there was a video that

884
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: went viral that his motion looked more compact, all that

885
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: stuff is positive, but based on the games and party

886
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: was legit. I'm not just saying that, like I'm not

887
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: some brock purty homer here. Just watch the guy play.

888
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: He was really good last year. Now he benefited from

889
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: having really good players around him. Like that's what we

890
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: talked about with Jalen. If you got good players around him,

891
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: you can make plays. Why Because you got talent right that,

892
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: there's no excuse not to be good. And he exceeded that.

893
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: So I think the only question now is health. Anytime

894
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: you have a major elbow injury, you never know un

895
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: till you come back. So to me, the only question

896
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: mark on Purty, and I'm not saying he's gonna be

897
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: some star quarterback like doing it three straight years, is

898
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: we'll see if he can do that, but just how

899
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: does his arm react from the surgery. Got into a

900
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: discussion with some friends the other night about the top

901
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: five receiving course corpse in the NFL. What's your take?

902
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I would say that come to

903
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: my mind DK Lockett. I don't know if they had

904
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: as good of Yeah, I mean, i'd say when Lockett's healthy,

905
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: those two, AJ and DeVante gotta be right up there.

906
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: Pre some injuries. Evans and Godwin was really damn good.

907
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: You know, a couple of years ago, Amari A CD

908
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: was damn good. You know, they change a lot, right,

909
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I Ukes pretty underrated player, and

910
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: obviously Deebo's stood. The Rams just got Cooper Cup. They

911
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: don't really have a number two the Chargers Allen went

912
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: healthy and Mike Williams is pretty freaking good. When the

913
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs had the two of them, I know Kelsey is

914
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: a tight end, but those two guys, holy shit, what

915
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: a dynamic duo. Yeah, man, I'm just going off the

916
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: top of my head. I I you know, if he

917
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: was like a lot of teams, and here's the thing.

918
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: Receivers cost a lot of money, so Tyreek and Waddle

919
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: would be up there for sure. But once I get

920
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: like part of the reason Tyreek and Waddle are possible

921
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: when Tyreek's making all that money, Wattle's on a rookie

922
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: deal even though he was a six overall pick. It's

923
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: hard to get to like Devanta Adams on the team. Right,

924
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: you got DeVonta Adams. Well, who's the number two receiver? Well,

925
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: renfro hat a bad year and he's on a second contract.

926
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: But it's relatively cheap. But they can't afford to sign

927
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: some guy. Right. If Calvin Ridley bounces back, you would

928
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: say Ridley Christian Kirk is prett damn good last year.

929
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: If he can play like that and be a number

930
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: two and really can be a one, that that could

931
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: be a pretty good group. It's just very Look at

932
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: the Vikings, they can't keep feeling right. You just it's

933
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: it's very or did they thought they cut him? They

934
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: cut him? It might lose my mind, but like it.

935
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: It's you're gonna have to pay Justin Jefferson a ton

936
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: of money. It's gonna be hard to have a really

937
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: good number two receiver making any sort of cash. They

938
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: just make a lot of money now, so it's very complicated.

939
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: I would say based on last year, not even looking

940
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: at the stats. I'm not looking at stats. I just

941
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: come to I would say aj Brown and Davante were

942
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: the best one to two combination in the league. I'm sorry,

943
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: Bengals fans, I left you out. Higgins and Chase would

944
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: be right up there too. Higgins and Chase would be

945
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: right up there too. You could make the argument that

946
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: it was them again. I don't know if numbers back

947
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: me up on this, but it feels like they would.

948
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: I would say those would be the top two. Sorry

949
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: if I'm leaving anyone out, but it would be Higgins, Chase,

950
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: Davante aj in some order using my wife's Instagram account.

951
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: I think the Niners would be an ideal landing spot

952
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: for either Brady if he decided to un retire, or

953
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: Rogers for a possible one and done season. Both would

954
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: be get a little legitimate shot at another Super Bowl

955
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: on a loaded roster, and the Niners would get a

956
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: primo quarterback for a year while Purty rehabs and Trey

957
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: hopefully continues to improve. Darnald will provide a solid backup

958
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Not sure what the cap hit

959
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: the dead money scenario would be if Rogers retired at

960
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: the end of the year and he thought, well, Rogers

961
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: was not coming to the forty nine Ers, It's just

962
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: not happening. There's no chance, you know. It's funny. The

963
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: Niners have played the Cowboys the last two years in

964
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and most of my life, or not most

965
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: of my life, three years or four years of my

966
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: life when I was young and the two best teams

967
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: in the league were the Niners and the Cowboys, that

968
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: rivalry was freaking huge. It was like Lebron versus the Warriors.

969
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: It was it was legit, But then it didn't happen

970
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: for a while. So like I watched the Cowboys Niners

971
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: the last two years in the playoffs, Like, yes, it's

972
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: not really a rivalry anymore. You know, they don't really

973
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: play each other very often. They haven't seen each other

974
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: in the playoffs forever. The Packers are the Niners, even

975
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: though they've had weird times since the nineties. They played

976
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: a lot young and far have played three straight years.

977
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: In my adult life, the hardball McCarthy Niners and Packers

978
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: played multiple times. Kyle Shanahan has played the Packers multiple times,

979
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: and La Floor's their coach. Like the Packers and Niners

980
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: sneaky little rivalry, and especially with Kyle there and Lafloor there.

981
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: If this Jets deal were to fall through, which feels

982
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: very very unlikely, but if it were to, I don't

983
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: see it happening. I think the Packers, as crazy as

984
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: it sounds, I think they'd be more likely to sit

985
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: on them and just say FU, kind of like Al

986
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: Davis Marcus Allen way back in the day than trade

987
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to the forty nine Ers. I think it

988
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: would get that bitter. I'm not even kidding. It would

989
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 1: be far Minnesota level kind of weirdness, and Brady feels

990
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: pretty content retirement, like I'm kind of gonna believe him.

991
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just done, maybe he's just kind of over it.

992
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: I saw Giselle was like wishing Tom happiness and she's

993
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: rooting for him, like just in life as she's off

994
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: with the Taekwondo instructor. Question for the Pod. Lifelong football fan,

995
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: grown up in Saint Louis and on the greatest show

996
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: on turf in the city. Loved football. Now with that

997
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: a home team, I have a hard time finding a

998
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: team to be a fan of. I want your thoughts

999
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: on a team moving back to Saint Louis. The XFL

1000
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: attendance numbers in Saint Louis have been incredible. The city

1001
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: loves football and or sports, and I think it's a sad.

1002
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: It's sad a great sports city doesn't have a franchise

1003
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: in the best sports town. Love the Pod, go low

1004
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: all your reactions and fresh perspective on mainstream stuff. Not

1005
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: super locked into the XFL. Gonna be completely transparent on that.

1006
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: Love football, but XFL USFL not spending that much time though.

1007
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: I did see a headline today that Doug Peterson's son

1008
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: playing in the USFL, and I've read some articles like

1009
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: USFL it's not like thirty thousand people watch, you know.

1010
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: I think some games have drawn close to a million

1011
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: people watching, so it's been very successful. Now part of that,

1012
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: I think Fox is behind the USFL. Who's leaving? What

1013
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: NFL team is not working out in their current destination

1014
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: right because sometimes like in basketball or baseball, for example,

1015
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 1: the Oakland Ace complete disaster. Ownership doesn't give a shit,

1016
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: nobody shows up. The team is terrible, so it's easy

1017
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: to go like, well, could we force them to sell,

1018
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: get a new owner, go to Vegas. It would have success,

1019
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: kind of like the football team they left. It's been lucrative.

1020
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: If they get a new owner, they would be a

1021
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: powerhouse franchise in theory. But in football, like if you

1022
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: got some of these owners out, Snyder out, well, Washington's

1023
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: not moving. If you get bidwill out, Arizona's not moving

1024
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: like what teams would move and expansion. It's hard to

1025
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: find thirty quarterbacks. It's hard to find fifteen quarterbacks. So

1026
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: there's a reason half the teams. Like the NFL is

1027
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: in a pretty good sweet spot where baseball I like

1028
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: to me the Rays who are really good. Uh, they's

1029
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: just could think how much money they could make in Nashville.

1030
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: To me, the Rays in Nashville and the A's in

1031
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 1: Oakland make a lot of sense. The NBA loves talking

1032
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: about expansion. If anything, I would relegate, But it does

1033
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: feel like Seattle and Vegas are gonna get teams Like

1034
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: that feels inevitable. But you're like whatever, I mean, if

1035
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: you get people to pay for it. NFL I have

1036
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: a harder time seeing like the owners wanting to split

1037
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: money and some of the talents there. You know, there's

1038
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: just not enough quarterbacks. There's just not enough quarterbacks. Now,

1039
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: if you told me that Saint Louis and I don't know,

1040
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: pick some other major city got a team, you could

1041
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: charge like eight billion a team, and that money could

1042
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: go toward all the owners and then there'd be two

1043
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: more teams that would benefit from you know, it'd be

1044
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: a good look for the Uh what am I looking for?

1045
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: Like the NFLPA because they would have more players getting paid.

1046
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: What up? John? My question centers around the advertising on

1047
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: your podcast. Could you explain to us how advertisers get

1048
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: on your show and how they pay? Rates are structured?

1049
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: Is it paid for advertisement or length. Additionally, what about

1050
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: income straight from streaming platforms Apple, Spotify? Does it make

1051
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: considerable portion of your revenue? Well, the way this world

1052
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: works in podcasting is no different than radio or television.

1053
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,959
Speaker 1: We are an advertising based business. So when you see

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Speaker 1: on television during a game, the cost is, let's just

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Speaker 1: pick a number, five hundred thousand dollars to advertise during

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Speaker 1: an NBA playoff game, two and a half million dollars

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Speaker 1: to advertise during an NFL playoff game. Whatever, It's no

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Speaker 1: different a podcasts. We sell based on how many people listen.

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Speaker 1: I've been lucky that with Colin and the Volumes team,

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of people listening. So it's based

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Speaker 1: on how many people listen. Because we have a successful operation,

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Speaker 1: we have a minimum to buy in and yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: so basically people have to pay to get advertised. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to find a sometimes an ad lib or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part, like advertise mints or sixty seconds. Right,

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Speaker 1: So when you hear advertising on the pod on different podcasts,

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Speaker 1: you know it costs more to get on Joe Rogan

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Speaker 1: or you know whoever the successful podcasts are than a

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Speaker 1: podcast with two thousand people listening, right, It's just no

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Speaker 1: different than it costs more to advertise during an NFL

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Speaker 1: game than it would advertise during some random PG golf tournament, right,

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Speaker 1: or some random television show. But it still costs money.

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Speaker 1: Can I get a trucker hat autographed from Peter? Not

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Speaker 1: a bad idea As an Eagles fan looking at the

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Speaker 1: new Hurts contract, I would sign you a hat. I

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Speaker 1: just just to see if they're make sure they're making

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Speaker 1: it to their destinations, and then that'll be the next

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Speaker 1: phase of our operation. Could you explain how the large

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money plays a part in being team friendly? Well,

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Speaker 1: just because one he didn't get his contract fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: There's seventy plus million dollars that is not guaranteed. But

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Speaker 1: when his agent, who lady works for Clutch Sports. Forget

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Speaker 1: her name on the top of my head, I think

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Speaker 1: her last name is Lynn. She's dating a guy or

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Speaker 1: married to him. I think he's a coach for Deion

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Speaker 1: Sanders at Colorado. The negotiation would be, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: shooting for a Deshaun Watson type contract, right, That's where

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Speaker 1: it would start. Now you're eventually willing to come off

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Speaker 1: that but you gave him a deal like in five

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Speaker 1: years that guaranteed money, Like there's gonna be a guaranteed

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Speaker 1: deal one day. That's two hundred and seventy million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So as time's age, it becomes team friendly. Now. You also,

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Speaker 1: the way that con tract is structured has a big

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Speaker 1: impact on the salary cap. So the way that how

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Speaker 1: he wrote Roseman and the agent structured the contract to

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Speaker 1: help the cap to pay for good players, which you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to wait for the details to come out,

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Speaker 1: like when someone fully breaks him down. Thoughts on Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts becoming the highest paid player in the NFL. Personally

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Speaker 1: think he's overpaid. He's only had one really good season.

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Speaker 1: But based on the guaranteed money, look like it's only

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Speaker 1: about a three and a half year contract is guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: How do you think they structured the contract. Well, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get a massive signing bonus. And listen, this gets

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Speaker 1: back to what I said originally. Joe Burrow now has

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Speaker 1: multiple years. He was the best player in college football

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Speaker 1: in nineteen beat the shit out of everybody, went number one.

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Speaker 1: When he's been healthy and his team's been good, the

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Speaker 1: Bengals have dominated like there is no there's no hesitation.

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Speaker 1: You know he's going to be sweet. Jalen does just

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Speaker 1: have the one year of high, highlight level play, but

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Speaker 1: it does get back to the guy. So you're betting

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Speaker 1: on the human being, and when you bet on the

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Speaker 1: human being, you just go He's going to sustain it.

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Speaker 1: He's going to keep improving. I think that's the mindset.

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Speaker 1: So over overpaid in the sense of the only way

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Speaker 1: he's overpaid is if he gets back to two years ago.

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Speaker 1: If he plays like he did in twenty one, then

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Speaker 1: the Eagles would have a problem. But if he just

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Speaker 1: slow small minute improvements on last year, look who he

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Speaker 1: has around him, excellent offensive line, aj freaking Brown in

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Speaker 1: the prime of his career, young DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll draft a running back. They already have

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Speaker 1: other good running backs and their own line stacked. How's

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Speaker 1: he not going to be good for at least the

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Speaker 1: next couple years. And once you make it through the

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Speaker 1: first couple of years, like you kind of get through

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Speaker 1: the guaranteed money, right, fifty million dollars a year, So

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Speaker 1: if he makes it through three years and it was

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Speaker 1: going shitty, you can always pivot. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: They just went through it with Carson Wentz. Didn't ruin

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Speaker 1: their franchise like they'll draft another quarterback. Hell, they might

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Speaker 1: draft a quarterback this year in the fourth fifth round,

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Speaker 1: just to have a cheap option backing the guy up.

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Speaker 1: It's never a dumb move. So yeah, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is not one of those situations where he's taking up

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Speaker 1: all their cap space because they'll fudge it and then

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Speaker 1: the moment his cap gets really good or really big,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, if he's still good, they'll just extend him

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Speaker 1: again and push the can down the road. And if

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Speaker 1: he's bad, they'll try to get off of it like

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Speaker 1: they did with Carson Wentz, because it's hard to see

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Speaker 1: him be as bad as Carson was. Now. The one

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Speaker 1: concern will be injuries because he is a running quarterback

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Speaker 1: and he was injured this year. It's the NFL. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do. It's part of the biz, right,

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Speaker 1: You just keep your fingers crossed. No one gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: Anyone get hurt any moment. But no issue with the contract.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty pretty easy one. Given the

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Speaker 1: times that we live in, everyone listening have a golf

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Speaker 1: podcast out on Wednesday. Just keep rock and rolling, Baby Audios,

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Speaker 1: the volume