1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast is the Light at the end 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: of the tunnel from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Around the NFL. I'm damned hanged us Hangs us with 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Greg Risen Gooul and Dark Sessler. Yes, it's a very 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: spooky Halloween edition of Around the NFL, the Week eight 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: flagship program. And how how will it be very special 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Halloween edition? I if I would have thought about it, 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: I would have said, let's get some different music off 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: the top. Um. Yeah. But instead that basically that okay, 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: that sums up this right now will be the extent 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: of the halloweeny nature of the episode. I would imagine, 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: But who knows, maybe we could cook up a theme. 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: I am with you that I would minimize the Halloween aspect. Well, 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of great football so you also 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: grown men, Yeah, got kids, so that would be great. 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: But we have we have men. We have man work 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: to do here, and I would I would just point 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: out breaking down Sunday, I speak for gragging myself that 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: we you know, it's that time of year where people 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: are going through things called colds, that the little c 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: um but you're powering through tonight because you're a professional, 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: UM and a raging professional and I would give you, 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: i'd push move you into like warrior category to some degree. Yeah, 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: I I it's not even there yet. It's just something 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: I feel like it is percolating within the sinuses at 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: the start of the program. So we're just gonna power 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: through it. Well, I only mentioned it to build rapport 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: with YouTube. Avoid the Yeah, I mean bringing a nonsense 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: at all, Like, what's the point we have so much 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: to get to? Dark dark buried in a big spot dark. Yes, 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: it is the week eight flagship program. We're gonna break 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: down all the action UM from Sunday, A nice Sunday. 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: We had the final London game of the year. We 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: had you know talking about it last Sunday and the 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: theme of the episode was where the good teams? This week? 36 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: Daddy's looking for some great teams and I think we 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: might have a couple of teams in the NFC. If 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: they're not there yet, I feel good about it. So 39 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: let's start with one of those teams. And it is 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: not and I repeat the defending Super Bowl champion. It 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: is Polo looking Garopolo were here crosh here throws to 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: the back of the end show. Hi Christian McCaffrey touch 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: see ce beautiful golf from Greg Popa and Tim Ryan 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Ken k n b R. I thought for a second 45 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: that Tim had screamed die like to the Rams, but 46 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: it was dynamite, Um, and Christie McCaffrey was dynamite. He 47 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: became the eleventh player in the history of our league 48 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: to have a rushing touchdown, a passing score, a receiving 49 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: score in one game. And the Niners continue to just 50 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: pants Sean McVeigh in this rivalry. At fourteen win for 51 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's Dudes at Sophi Stadium, or as George Kittle 52 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: called it after the win, Levi South because there were 53 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people in red in that stadium, Mark Uh. 54 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: The game started well for the Rams and it looked 55 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: like we were gonna have a classic back and forth 56 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: NFC West game, and then San Francisco just imposed their 57 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: will and a lot of that ties back to c 58 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: m c who is everything they could have asked for 59 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: at least today. Well, these were two teams that both 60 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: wanted Christian McCaffrey, one of them got him, and it 61 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: played all the difference today. And this was a huge 62 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,279 Speaker 1: Sunday for the Rams. You're coming out of your by. 63 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Your season has been dipped in chaos and disappointment. You're 64 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: not looking like the Rams team that we're used to 65 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: under Sean McVeigh. So you go into your by. What 66 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: do you do? How do you adjust? And after the 67 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: first half I thought, I think they have. I think 68 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh has figured out a lot of issues here. 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: Because Matthew Stafford was kept up right, well protected, those 70 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: issues didn't seem to be there. Um, they can't run 71 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: the ball and we know that, and there's no way 72 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: to solve that immediately. But they had found a way 73 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: to go toe to toe with the or foot to foot. 74 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what body parts of 75 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: body part with the Niners. It just seems sort of 76 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: stuff to me. But I guess it's because it's just 77 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: you're a little bit. You're an inch further than the 78 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: other person than you are than they are. So anyways, 79 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: but let's break this down further, elbow to elbow, what 80 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: are you looking for? It all started to crumble in 81 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: the third quarter. They opened up on third down, they 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: were six for seven the Rams to open up on 83 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: third down, and they just they looked like they had 84 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: solved other issues. And then they had like a twenty 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: yard third quarter where the Niners and aspect, it was 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: just essentially Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, and you got the 87 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: version of Jimmy g which always almost always seems to 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: be outside of the playoff game against the Rams pristine. 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: He threw the ball great, and the Niners just look 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: to me like the team that understands who they are. Um, 91 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: they went out and got the acid and Chris McCaffrey, 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: who was utterly unstoppable and looks like he's gonna fit 93 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: in so well. It's like a Shanahan Fever dream scenario, 94 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: just the way the way they can use them, and 95 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: the Rams they're not that team right now. I mean, 96 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: they had the ball five times in the second half, 97 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: four times, I believe five times, and they had four 98 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: total first downs. And I listened to Sean McVeigh after 99 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: the game because I'm with you, I think this was 100 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: a huge moment in their season. And to get beat 101 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: like a drum like that where the offense completely falls 102 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: in on itself. Uh, and then the defense struggles too, 103 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: was surprising to me, and I was curious what he 104 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: would say, and it's funny. He was really talking about 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: how the defense in the secondary and the second level 106 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of things to clean up, and that's 107 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: not what they expected. I'm just thinking, like, you're right today, 108 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: they didn't expect that defensively. Yet the fact that they 109 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: go four first downs in five second half drives like 110 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: we're getting used to that with the ramps, and we're 111 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: getting used to them losing big. They lost by twenty 112 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: one to the Bills, fifteen to the Niners, twelve to 113 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, seventeen to the Niners, and three of those 114 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: are at home, Like they are a team that loses big. 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: And so much of this to me anyway, when I 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: look at what's wrong with their offense. They can't run 117 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: the ball. It puts so much pressure on Matt Stafford, 118 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: who's not playing at a high level this year, and 119 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: he does not have a supporting cast that he entirely trust. 120 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is Cooper Cup and we'll get to him 121 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: in a minute. Here. Allen Robinson is finally showing signs 122 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: of life, but obviously has not been the difference maker. 123 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: They thought Tyler Higbee had a drop in this game. 124 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: That kind of you know, swung things over to San 125 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: Francisco permanently in the second half on a catch that 126 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: would have been at first down and maybe even a touchdown. 127 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: That was really the last sign of life for Los 128 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Angeles offense. And you know, even when they're down marking 129 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: the in the second quarter, they had first and goal 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: from the one or whatever, and they try to run 131 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: it twice and it was like, not gonna work. And 132 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: they did actually score on the ground on the Matthew 133 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Stafford scramble where he gets screamed by the pylon he 134 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: gets in. But you're thinking yourself like that, that's one 135 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: of the big issues here. They don't win up front, 136 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: they can't run the ball, and everything's just disjoined it. 137 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: They have zero confidence in their ground game, and you're right, 138 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: it becomes magnified in the red zone right near the 139 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: goal line where they need someone to step up and 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: be able to do that. And I mean, we're seeing 141 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: teams around the league with bad offensive lines who have 142 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: turned towards the run successfully and the Rams just seemed 143 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: disinterested and that happening, And on top of it, I 144 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: think the Niners own them psychologically because the second half 145 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: of this game, the Rams just started to become totally unglued. 146 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: Allan Robinson had a big catch and then turns around 147 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: and gets a he a personal foul for taunting. It's like, 148 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: come on, this is the last thing you need right now. 149 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: You're not a rookie, you're a veteran player, and it 150 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: just the second half was a meltdown. I know I'm 151 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: gonna get burned by this, but I feel like Jimmy 152 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: G's played better this year for the most part. There's 153 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: been the killer moments and that's just always going to 154 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: be part of it. Maybe it's just I got used 155 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: to the Jimmy G playing through a torn shoulder last 156 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: year and that was so bad that now they've got 157 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Garoppolo back to kind of his normal level, and you 158 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: get CMC. The fact that they had CMC throw for 159 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: a touchdown in this game and McCaffrey ends up with 160 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: a d eighty three yards from scrimmage. That's almost as 161 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: much as the Rams had. And Shanahan talked after how 162 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: he put that into the playbook on Thursday, after asking 163 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: his staff like, oh, can this guy throw? And they 164 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: found some throw that he did four years ago. He 165 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: did that because the Rams wanted it. These sticking it 166 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: to the rams like this was like a two ships 167 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: passing in the night, and the forty Niners absolutely owned him. 168 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's him sticking it to his friend. 169 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: Keep in mind here, Yeah, twenty six touches for McCaffrey, 170 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: so he is now fully loaded. And they did this, 171 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: the Niners abusing Los Angeles in the second half of 172 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: this game without Deebo Samuel who who missed the game 173 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: with an injury. So you just it just shows the 174 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: And when I talk about could the Niners be great, 175 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: it's like this version of Jimmy g obviously with two 176 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: touchdowns and no picks. But when you have them fully 177 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, you have CMC fully uploaded, you get Devo back. 178 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: You have Brandon Ayouk, who's come to life in recent weeks. 179 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: You have George Kittle, of course, defense and potential here 180 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: for San Francisco. When you also factor in the defenses, 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: it gets healthier. Is gonna be problem as well. So 182 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: at four and four, yeah, they're right in the mix 183 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: of a muddy division, But I think they have more 184 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: upside than almost anyone in the NFC this side of 185 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: filling because their ceiling is just so different other the 186 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: outside of the Eagles, and when they're on like this, 187 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: you know they've had injuries. Some of their bad games 188 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: have I think tied to defensive injuries number one. If 189 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: they get healthier and healthier, and you know, critiquing the 190 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: idea they went and got McCaffrey and it was expensive, 191 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any critique at this point because 192 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: he went somewhere where he can be used well and 193 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: today he was absolutely unstolid. He have a couple of 194 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: fumbles that they were lucky the Niners recovered, but I'll 195 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: take that along with what the upside and what he 196 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: did and how he electrified the Rams defense. And one 197 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: last point on the Ram side, they had Cooper Cup 198 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: in the game with a minute to play down three scores. 199 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: Keep doing this rolling the ball and he gets his 200 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: ankle rolled up on. He was able to walk off 201 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: under his own power. Um. Seems like he'll be okay. Um. 202 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: But at the same time, m yeah McVey. McVeigh said like, 203 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, I shouldn't have done that. I wish 204 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: I could have done it differently, but he didn't and 205 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: that almost cost him. That's their season. If Cup goes out. 206 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what season the Los Angeles has, but 207 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: right now it's not looking good. Uh. In other news, 208 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: in other games, there was only one game that had 209 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: to winning teams, and it was that the stadium formerly 210 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: known as the Clink. Remember that, Yeah, nobody knows what 211 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: it is. It's lumin field. Let's check it out. You're 212 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: not gonna throw again. On first down, pump fect gonna throw. 213 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: Got him out in the corner, say Hawks, what a 214 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: drawing let god Gino sim Tyler Walker was not gonna 215 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: let this one get away. He hung hard thirty three 216 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: yards out and the Seahawks go on top o Steve 217 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: Rival with a call k I r O. Gino just 218 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: keeps delivering greggy Yes, Tyler Lockett caught a thirty three 219 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass from Gino to play. Uh. They then 220 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: got a turnover on a kickoff, scored the another touchdown, 221 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: and that was that very close, tight game of the 222 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: Giants turns into a win over New York, who had 223 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: entered the game, of course, uh, six and one, so 224 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: they dropped to six and two. But this game, greg 225 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: Um another great effort. Yes by gino Um, but also 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: by the defense, which is now stacked three games in 227 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: a row. And I'm not saying we're ready to put 228 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: the the I said the Mariners almost there, We're not. 229 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm not alone today. Um I'm not saying I'm ready 230 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: to put the Seattle Seahawks into the great category. But 231 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: they are very firmly now in the good team category. 232 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: And again, this is one of the bigger surprises in 233 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: the league. They are to me, they're the team that 234 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: everyone's trying to tell me that the Giants are. And 235 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: I'm not going to just make this an anti Giants thing, 236 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: but I will, but I will. Uh what else am 237 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: I gonna do? They are the team I think that's 238 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: got more staying power of these two teams, because I 239 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: think when you look at it, they're really talented. They 240 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: have good players. They have six or seven rookies playing 241 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: key roles. They're getting better and better. Gino is number 242 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: three in QBR on the season, behind Mahomes and Allen. 243 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: At a certain point, I'm just believing that he is, 244 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: in terms of accuracy, right there with any quarterback in 245 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: the league. He put the ball on the money again 246 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: and again and again today, and his receivers couldn't come 247 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: down with some tough catches, but he kept putting it 248 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: there and he came through. But the defense playing as 249 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: well as they have the last three weeks lets me 250 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: feel that Pete Carroll's got something here. It's a young group. 251 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: They changed what their approach was in terms of getting 252 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: more attacking. Their special teams has looked really good. Kenneth Walker, Yeah, 253 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: didn't look great eighteen for fifty one. The Giants seemed 254 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: really determined to stop him, but the play he made 255 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: at the end to get the games ceiling touchdown was 256 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: an incredible individual play. And I look at this team 257 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: and I see a clear top ten offense who has 258 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: dk Metcalf who apparently can't be injured and he's back 259 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: in the mix. And I see a very competitive defense, 260 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: and I see a lot of verve out of their coach, 261 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: and I think, why not the Seahawks long term? And 262 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: that's why I locked him up correctly, well, a little dicey. 263 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: It seemed dicey at the time, but again that's part 264 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: of me. I keep underestimating. You know, you came at me. 265 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: I took that personally on Thursday. Then he came into 266 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: the office today and you're like, oh, Greg's really sweating. 267 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: I would I felt good about a little bit whole time. 268 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: You had a little bit of a tight butt there 269 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: early in the fourth quarter. You could hear the nerves 270 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: in your voice because the Giants were hanging around in 271 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: a game where they didn't look like so I think 272 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: it was a valiant lock. I mean, I think it's 273 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago we looked at Seattle differently 274 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: because their defense was just an open barn door and 275 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: it's totally changed. And I think that is something that, 276 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: like some of these better teams, if you actually have 277 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: a version of defense that can impact games like this, 278 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna believe in you a lot more. The offense 279 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: has been there all along. I feel like this version 280 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: of Pete Carroll, he just clicks with Gino Smith. They 281 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: seem willing to be super aggressive down near the goal line, 282 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: throw the ball and not like to have the media 283 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: tell you that your quarterback Russell Wilson must cook and 284 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: we must have that constant tension between coach and quarterback. 285 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: He kind of just wants to roll with Gino and 286 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: Gino's making the throats. I want to say to that 287 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: point that Pete Carroll absolutely should be in the Coach 288 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: of the Year UM category are high up in those rankings. 289 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: I think he should be the leader in the clubhouse. 290 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: This is a team that nobody thought could do anything. 291 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: And clearly, I think part of Gino's great season it 292 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: goes back to like the coaching empowering Gino and making 293 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: him seem from day one, uh, that he was somebody 294 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: that they could just thrive with, not just be a 295 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: game manager. So I just give credit to Carol on 296 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: that UM. And you know, in the NFC West, which 297 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: we thought was gonna be a very different type of division, uh, Seattle, 298 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't seem crazy that they could win this 299 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: division now and they chose Pete Carroll ownership over Russell Wilson, 300 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: and I kind of killed him for that at the time. 301 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: And that's looking that's looking pretty good right now. Is 302 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll went for and I feel like so many 303 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: times the missed fourth downs get brought up a lot, 304 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: but the successful fourth downs that absolutely changed the game 305 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: don't get brought up a lot. And Pete Carroll went 306 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: for fourth down twice on their first touchdown drive in 307 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: the second quarter, and they got it both times one 308 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: and both were like an easy field goal range. One 309 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: was on the twenty and one was inside the ten 310 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: and uh one you know they get it to lock 311 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: it and the other they end up running it in. 312 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: They nail it both times. And I think it's because 313 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: he's turning a new leaf to in terms of aggressiveness 314 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: and realizing this is an offensive team. Let's go for it. Um. 315 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: And I did accidentally call Seattle the Seahawks the baseball team. 316 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: I blame Jerome Boger, lead official of this game. After 317 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: the play sideline interference Seattle who in the restricted area 318 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: after the fourth of his penalty, you will be first 319 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: and team Seattle manger. It is what is Scott's service 320 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: Mariners manager doing on the sideline? It is my favorite 321 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: thing that's happened, um in the entire football season so far. Well, 322 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: that the best in the NFL. Well, that's been a 323 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: tough year. But also I think I if I were 324 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: a ref and had the chance to click on the mic, 325 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: I might go do some of those things on purpose, 326 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: so so you get in the you're on the show now. 327 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: It also is the best penalty of the year because 328 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: the reason Pete Carroll got that penalty, and it was 329 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Carroll is because he was so fired up watching Gino 330 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: Smith scramble for a third and long that clinched the game. 331 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: And since they apply the penalty after the first down, 332 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: it didn't cost him at all. So like coaches should 333 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: run onto the field and get in the way of 334 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: the raff every time they're in that situation. He looks 335 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: like he's like twenty five years old. I know your 336 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: mom has always thought he was kind of a zaddie, 337 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: and he's like, he's like getting younger as this team has. 338 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: I find him remarkably attractive as well. It runs in 339 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: the family, all right. So that was an important game 340 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: between two winning teams. Now the best game of Week 341 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: eight found in a very unlikely place, Snap spot. Here's 342 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Coop for the win. Kick his away and drive home 343 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: cycling young Way coup from forty one yards. Whin's the 344 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: ball game. Arthur Smith and Atlanta are four and four. 345 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: My goodness, indeed, Westerham get out the bongos z g 346 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: c good call. The Falcons kicker young waykup, one of 347 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: the best in the league, splits the uprights from forty 348 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: one out after the Panthers missed two kicks that would 349 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: have won the game including a long extra point which 350 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: we'll get to. The Falcons thirty seven thirty four the 351 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: win over the Panthers, so it is the Falcons holding 352 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: on to first place mark. This was a game that 353 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: looked like it was over and then it wasn't. And 354 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: there was a lot of drama along the way before 355 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Coup put things away, and then it was, and then 356 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't, and then it was and then it wasn't. 357 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: And we have David Eally uh somewhat of a reluctant 358 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: Panthers fan in our newsroom, and I could hear him 359 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: intermittently like screaming about something, then going totally silent about something, 360 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: then screaming and then go totally silent. And this game 361 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: had all those ingredients. I mean they were they These 362 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: two teams alternated ten straight scores at one point. It 363 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: was just one of those games where, like it, it 364 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: became completely derailed, and poor Eddie Panero I. I don't 365 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: enjoy watching um kickers miss high octane kicks and p 366 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: a T s in these situations because they're already um 367 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: typically outside of Justin Tucker's coolness, you're like a man 368 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: on an island inside of most NFL locker rooms, I 369 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: would imagine to some degree. And when this happens, you 370 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: have no friends. I mean, to to miss the p 371 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: a t that would have sent assalted the game, you 372 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: send it into overtime. You get the ball back. On 373 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotte's terrible interception on his twenty ninth birthday, Eddie 374 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: Pannerio set up for a thirty two yard gimme. I mean, 375 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: you should be doing that if you had twelve beers 376 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: and you were an NFL kicker, you should be kicking 377 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: that ten out of ten times. I mean, you'd like 378 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: to see this, and he misses it. But and it's 379 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: Eddie Panierio. You know that will be his last kick 380 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: with Carolina. You could you could bet that, and it 381 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: just it's funny with kickers really get the yips in 382 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: a game like at you could tell right away even 383 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: though it was an extra point, it was a coin 384 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: flip um extra point length less than it was a 385 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: coin flip in overtime. It felt like, yeah, he could 386 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: definitely blow this. And and to your point, also like 387 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: he was getting a lot of pats on the back 388 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the fourth quarter when he missed 389 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: the long extra point, but after the second one, you 390 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: can it was just like everybody's like, are you kidding me? Dude, 391 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: Like we're fighting our butts off here and you just 392 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: killed us. But you gotta put some heat on DJ 393 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: More too. You gotta praise him for the incredible touchdown 394 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: he had that allowed the Panthers to tie the game, 395 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: but the call taking off his helmet while celebrating, which 396 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe in, but it is what it is, uh, 397 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: that led to an extra point that would have won 398 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: the game for Pinero turning into what a forty five 399 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: yarder turns into, which which, by the way, he might 400 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: have missed. So I have put you know, it's the 401 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: same length as the field goal. Who's not Who's to 402 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: say he wouldn't miss the extra point. Not that you 403 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: want to give d J. Moore some credit, but I 404 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: did see some people be like DG Moore, giveth DJ 405 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: Moore taketh away. I mean, they're not equal. He completed 406 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: an unbelievable catch where he sort of slowed up halfway 407 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: and the throw from p J Walker rolling left with 408 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: under twenty seconds to go and no time outs. That 409 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: was the play of the NFL season. I got up 410 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: out of my seat and I just started sprinting down 411 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: the aisle towards the eally. I was like so excited. 412 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: That was just like that was the perfect example. I 413 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: also had picked them, and you know, I was excited. 414 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: It just seemed like it seemed like the play of 415 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: the year, like it was one of the more magical 416 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: moments of the year. And then to miss that kick 417 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: is crazy. Atlanta was down multiple, multiple defensive backs today. 418 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: They had got a guy they brought up out the 419 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: practice squad who got injured doing it. That's a state 420 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: of where the second. To put it in perspective, the 421 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: Panthers got the ball there with thirty six seconds to 422 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: go and no time outs, needing a touchdown, and they 423 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: got the touchdown with twelve seconds to spare that. That's 424 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: almost impossible. Yes, almost uh Two things I wanted to add. Hey, 425 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitt's Fantasy owner support group talked about it on 426 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: Thursday last stand. We got a nice day, we got 427 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: about ninety yards in a touch Let's stay the course 428 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: and along those same lines, Arthur Smith, nice to see 429 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: you U treat your quarterback Marcus Mariotta like a real 430 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: quarterback and not like he's Tim Tebow letting him throw 431 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: the ball. Guess what, Mariotta. He made some mistakes, but 432 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: he also made some throws, but he can throw. You 433 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: give your guy a chance to make plays. And he 434 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: made more plays than he failed in this game. And 435 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: they gotta win. One thing. I think that gets lost 436 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: in the drama. The game like donta formant like is 437 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: has been awesome and he was dominant today. And I 438 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: have a guy. Now, I have a guy um. Okay, 439 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: well we'll talk about it. Yeah, I talked. I'll tell 440 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: you who it is, Tyler Algier for the Falcon And 441 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: I love this guy and control that. We have to 442 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: check you will, I will, I will remove you from 443 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: the building. He will send you, I will, I will 444 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: send hr a fiery letter about all the things I 445 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: know about you. Can you explain? You explain why, because 446 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: I I'm just to get into that. I'm surprised. I 447 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: think Foreman I don't think Foreman Um is really guy 448 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: eligible at this point. He's been around. But Alger, that's 449 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna be good. Well, Alger, what was it about his um? 450 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: Two point eight yards per carry? Today? It's been the 451 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: past month. It's not just today. Like, go watch the 452 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: Browns game. Now, I been, he's been. He read powerful. 453 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: They brought him in out of nowhere and he's like 454 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: he's five eleven, two twenty and looks like like eight 455 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: hundred bricks stuck up and he made he made a 456 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: great play in um as a receiver. Today on the 457 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: we're going to submit it to the board. It will 458 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: be picking a guy that's like an all pro a project. 459 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: It's about a six to eight week turnaround the review process, 460 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: and we will be in touch with you in your world. 461 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: This bumps You're absurd world point to this game bumps 462 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: me out there because just for they would have been 463 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: a four way tie at the top of the NFC South. 464 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: The Panthers would have been in first place and like 465 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: it would have been like another team that was sort 466 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: the mix. They're not, but it's like they ruined everything 467 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: every weekend, and it would have been the first time 468 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: there was a like a four way tie this late 469 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: in the season since the strike shortened campaign in the row. 470 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't know where you go next, buddy, but we 471 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: feel for you. That could not have been fun. All right, 472 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, Welcome back. There is only one 473 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: undefeated team in football, and I cannot get the feeling 474 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: it's going to stay that way for a while. Let's 475 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: check in with the Eggles. Hurts looks thanks, still looking 476 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: he is going deep down the hoar fun and it 477 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: is hello. A J. Brown puts on the burners, me 478 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: me in the corner of the end zone. Town. Oh 479 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: my goodness, Meryl Rees and Mike Quick with the call 480 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: for w I P good times in Philadelphia Pro Sports. 481 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: A J. Brown had three touchdown catches in the first 482 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: half and and Jalen Hurts through four touchdowns as the 483 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: Eagles roll to a win over the Steelers. And that's 484 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: not a surprise necessarily the final score here as we 485 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: welcome in the Great Nick so Shook on Halloween. But 486 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: it's just another reminder of like how easy Philadelphia is 487 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: making it right now against the opposition. Everybody sock is 488 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: in the gym. He doesn't skip a Jim Day because 489 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: God manufactured holiday dress up in costumes. I mean that 490 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: that cannot confirm or deny that um. But those weightlifting 491 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: sounds you here, that's actually A J. Brown packing on 492 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: the muscle and then using it to dominate the Steelers 493 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: secondary this afternoon I felt bad for makeing Fitzpatrick because 494 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: each of the three touchdowns it was make up closing 495 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: it over the top and just being woefully late or 496 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: out of position to make a play, and the entire 497 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: secondary looking like a bunch of fools. He made them 498 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: and did whatever he wanted to make them, and he 499 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: dominated them this entire afternoon. The Eagles had no problem 500 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: going to him passing the ball around the yard. They 501 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: ran the ball pretty well. Miles Sanders capped it off 502 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: with a touchdown. It went from seven to seven to 503 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: a much greater difference between the two teams. There was 504 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: never really in question. In fact, it was so over 505 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: and the Eagle talks a little fear of the Steeler's 506 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: offense that they put Jalen Hurts on the sideline with 507 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: eleven minutes to go in the fourth quarter. They knew 508 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: it was chance. It resounding victory, and I spove with 509 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: TNF mean they have that. We got the Eagles and 510 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: the Texans in a bizarre Thursday night football match. I 511 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: guess showed me the Eagles can win in so many 512 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: different ways. Because there has been weeks where A J. 513 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: Brown has been a little more quiet and they've they've 514 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: run the ball a ton and they've kind of depends 515 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: who the matchup is. They absolutely victimized Pittsburgh today. I 516 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: mean a Kilo Witherspoon got benched at one point. It 517 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: seemed that it seemed like they're moving the secondary around. 518 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: And I mean these were the throws. It wasn't just 519 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: a J. Brown's the catches like Jalen Hurts like from 520 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: last year this year in terms of his improvement on 521 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: some of these throws is startling, and like he was 522 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: absolutely on the money today. And I look at a 523 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh team. When you go play other sort of half 524 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: baked operations, you can hang around, and they do do that. 525 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: But then when you go play Buffalo you get your 526 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: doors blown off. When you go play the Eagles, you 527 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: cannot hang around because they are a middle of the pack, 528 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: not fun to watch offense right now, and they've got 529 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: very little on defense other than the reputation. Yeah, Philly 530 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: is one of the big three obviously, and these teams 531 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: that don't come ready, they get him barrassed. And let's 532 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: listen to Jalen Hurts talking about seven and now you 533 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: know it's just it's just a uphill climb. That's what 534 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: we always talk about. It's an uphill climb. So that's 535 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: that's what it is, you know what I mean, And 536 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: honestly feel like there is no arrival. There is no arrival. 537 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: You will never get to a point where you say 538 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: I've arrived. There is no arrival. There's only the journey. 539 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: And I've embraced that journey and I'll continue to do 540 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: that and take it day by day and just trying 541 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: to climb. Ki Shookie, that's the old Steven Tyler in 542 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: the amazing video Life's of Journey. Life of Journey. Not 543 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: a Nisshion remember that one. Probably not you're much younger. 544 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: You were like four at the time. Still that Aerosmith 545 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: songs from that era sound the exact same time. It 546 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: was a good song. There was seven of them, but 547 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: it was good. Go ahead, No, I mean, I totally agree. 548 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't see why the Eagles should believe that they're 549 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: not going to be the favorite and be a team 550 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 1: that's gonna continue to remain underfead. Their schedule sets up 551 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: really nicely for them. They don't face a team of 552 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: the winning record for like the next month, and I 553 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: think one of the teams that could potentially have a 554 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: winning record is the Colts, and I don't believe anything 555 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: in the Colts either. So you know, we see six 556 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: and oh, seven and oh from the Eagles. I could 557 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: see eleven or no very realistically, because no team has 558 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: really challenged them. There was a moment a few weeks 559 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: ago when they were down fourteen nothing to the Jaguars 560 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: and then turned it on on a sloppy link in 561 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: financial field and dominated them in that game. You know, 562 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't like to get too hyperbolic with teams because 563 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: eventually you're due for a loss and eventually you're gonna 564 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: run into some struggles. But right now, the way their 565 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: offense is operating because they can attack you from so 566 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: many different angles, a lot of teams have a hard 567 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: time shutting them down or slowing them down. And their 568 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: defense continues to get better, especially up front. They harassed 569 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: Kenny pick It all day today. It was just like 570 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: it was two teams in different leagues right now. And 571 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: I know the Steelers are working through some things and 572 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: they got a rookie quarterback, but it just wasn't much 573 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: of a competitive game after, you know, the first quarter, 574 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: because the Eagles are just soaring at a different level 575 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: right now. We talked about possibly uh forking teams. It 576 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: was a question asked on the Friday Fund Show, and 577 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: I think the Texans were the only team we even 578 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: could come up with. But I think in this a 579 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: FC which is awfully deep, you know, I'd be pretty 580 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: ready to fork this, uh Steeler. I would join you 581 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: on that forked Yeah. Uh, let's move on to a 582 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: more competitive game. Nick Shook in Minneapolis, Nel Madison heats 583 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: to the backfield, Cousins shotgun, short drop, bros Right and 584 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: j j Osborn games Hey thirty four twenty six lead. 585 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: We figured it out. He finally figured out how we 586 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: could beat that place. Paul Allen and Pete versas. Paul 587 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: Allen is my guy if somewhere like who's your guy? 588 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: Like I said earlier this week or last week, Joe 589 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Brow is my favorite guy in the booth. Paul Allen, 590 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: that's it should get him on the show. Good candidate 591 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: for the k f A And with the call yes, 592 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousin threw two touchdowns, ran for another score, Dalvin 593 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: Cook season high eleven yards on a score of his own, 594 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: and a thirty win over the Cardinals. Show Kie, I'm 595 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: looking for great teams. Goods, fine, but I want great 596 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: The Vikings on a five game winning streak. You're not 597 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: ready to put them there, are you? But let's talk 598 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: about it. No, I'm not. And and the main reason is, 599 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, this is a win that you have to 600 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: feel good about, but you also have to feel a 601 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: little bit concerned because they really should have won this 602 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: game by multiple scores. They left at least six points 603 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: out there on the in the first half. They have 604 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: a block field goal they went, they threw it on 605 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: third and one and fourth and one, and when you 606 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: have Dalvin Cook, you know ripping up, you know, massive 607 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: gains on the ground. Um. I didn't agree with that. 608 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: But they won the game. And you know, kg Osborne 609 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: gave them oh lead and he gave them oh win. 610 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: But it took to Darius Smith's sacking Kyler Murray on 611 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: the final play of the game to really seal it. 612 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: They should have been done with this game, you know, 613 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: four or five minutes earlier in the game, and they 614 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: allowed the Cardinals to hang around and and and the 615 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals an offense that's basically relying heavily on DeAndre Hopkins 616 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: right now, who is definitely back. Uh, that's why they're good. 617 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: They're not great. That's why the Vikings are not yet great. 618 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: But it is nice to string all these wins together. 619 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: And it's an NFC North that's very witable. So keep 620 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: on going and maybe you sort those things out. This 621 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: is obviously not what we predicted for this division going 622 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: into the season, but I need to see them be 623 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: a little bit better. Maybe they'll figure it out in 624 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: the next month. They were given some gifts in this 625 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: game too, by Kyler Murray through that terrible interception to 626 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith. There was the play where the Cardinals were 627 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: forced to or chose to kick a field goal because 628 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: the shotguns snap hit Kyler Murray in the face mask 629 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: or right around the head when he was staring at 630 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: the sideline, which that that kind of thing seems to 631 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: happen them weekly, some sort of discordinated scenario between center 632 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: and quarterback or X Y and Z. Greg George muff 633 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: that punt, which was huge for Minnesota. I mean a 634 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: lot went their way, and you're right, it came right 635 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: down to the end, and they also benefited from the 636 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: Cardinal is just looking totally chaotic on that final attempt 637 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: to go tie it tied up with Kyler Murray dancing 638 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: around and getting taken to the ground twice. I feel 639 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: like I see that every week too. Well. They they're 640 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: missing four starting offensive lineman the Cardinals, including d J. Humphries, 641 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: which was a late uh decision where we didn't know 642 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: going into it. So you're losing your satury, you lost 643 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: your guard for the year. Then you're down a couple 644 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: of tackles. Like that helps explain it. But I think 645 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: one thing the Vikings have done a good job this 646 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: year is they take advantage of those matchups. That Arius 647 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: Smith had three sacks and uh four tackles for lost 648 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: today and it reminded me of the Dolphins game where 649 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: he ate up their backup tackles. But that's sometimes what 650 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: these games come down to. When the other team is 651 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: missing some of their good players, can you just crush 652 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: that matchup? And Minnesota's got enough star ish players. They're 653 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: running games, getting going, their pass rush is getting going, 654 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: and they have Patrick Peterson playing well again uh shook 655 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: where it's like any one of these stars kind of 656 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: steps up in a given week and there's six and one. Yeah, 657 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson had a great pass breakup in the end 658 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: zone early in the game that prevented them from scoring 659 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: what would have would have been a game tying touchdown. 660 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, look it's Pat Pete Bold wraps out. Yeah, 661 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: but you know, you talk about those random stars that 662 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: come up and make plays. Kirk Cousins he hit his 663 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: highest ball carrier speed on his rushing touchdown in his 664 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: career with the Vikings. It was like eighteen points something 665 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: miles per hour. It looked fast. I was still the 666 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: whole world was stun That's pretty fast for him. I 667 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: would have I would have guessed if you would have 668 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: just said what would be the number, because I don't 669 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: even know what a slow guy runs in the NFL, 670 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: I would have said, like sixteen point five. But eighteen, Well, 671 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: what was the old saying everybody runs twenty Yeah, well 672 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of close to that this quote. I'll go 673 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: ahead and keep going, buddy. Well, I just to kind 674 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: of tack on what Greg was saying. It was. It 675 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: was the kJ Osbourne's it was you know, some of 676 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: the other guys, Darius Smith stepping up and crushing a 677 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: match up like that. It was timely plays again in 678 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: a game where they had left enough room for the 679 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: Cardinals to come back. They had the possession two times 680 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: in the second hair in the in the fourth quarter 681 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: where they could have go down and taking the lead, 682 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: and both times are defense stepped up. And and that's 683 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: what was most important, is winning those close games, I guess, 684 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: even if you give the opponent more room to get 685 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: back into the game. And here is an interesting quote 686 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: with that in mind from Kirk Cousins, and he said 687 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: something like this a couple of weeks now, I thought 688 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: we were a really good football team last year. We 689 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: just couldn't find the inches in too many games. Why 690 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: we found them now, I don't know. Now you could 691 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: either read that as a shot across the battle of 692 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: old friend Mike Zimmer, or you could read into it 693 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: if you want, as Kirk Cousins basically telling us, Hey, 694 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: we're actually kind of a regression candidate. Uh, we're gonna 695 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: finish ten in seven or nine at eight, But right 696 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: now things are going great and we're happy to be six. 697 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: If they went nine and eight, they would have to 698 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: go three and seven the rest of the way that 699 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, you know, they got a four out of five. 700 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: We've seen them to do exactly that in the past. 701 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: I don't think it's got to happen. I just wanted 702 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: to throw one bizarre revenge game narrative out there that 703 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson throughout after the game, he said that he's 704 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: not happy with the Cardinals and this is a future 705 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, most likely in Patrick Peterson, who played 706 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: a long time for the Cardinals, that when he was 707 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: late in his Cardinals tenure, that someone unannounced would print 708 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: out articles and comments about his poor play on the 709 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: internet and then put them at his locker. And I 710 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: think he was like hinting that like ownership was doing this. 711 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know who would do that, Maybe it would 712 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: be coaches, and that he's kept that with them those 713 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: print out seems like Bruce Arians does not seem like 714 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: an owner was going around doing that taping the article 715 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: to his locker, but he was. He got into revenge. 716 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: That was a real revenge game, all right. There you go. 717 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: The Vikings improved a four and oh in their building, 718 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: and if they do win the NFC North, they play 719 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: a home game in the playoffs at least one shookie 720 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: your home. But I know you're heading to the gym 721 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: now because you gotta get one last pump in I 722 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: just keep having this vision in my head of Michael 723 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: Bidwell's uying his cess nut into an airport, getting off 724 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: with like a leather backpack over his shoulder, and it's 725 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: just stuffed with news. Right when some you know, some 726 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: little rolls of tape to go post in the locker room. 727 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: That's a cute little trick. He had an assistant set 728 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: up hook up his printer to his laptop and he 729 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: has all these around the NFL articles from two thousand 730 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: seventeen ready for stuffing into a locker. Shook would never 731 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: be stuffed into a locker. We know that. By all right, Shook, 732 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: he's gone. But we move on and let's head to 733 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: the meadow lands where the Jets had an opportunity to 734 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: change things that met Life Stadium. An opportunity, that's all. 735 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: It was. Snapped back to Zach Wilson. He's pressured again. 736 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: He's chased to the wife. Mac Wilson in pursuit. Now 737 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: throw downs got another far sideline, picking on the sideline 738 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: of the forty, stepping out of bounds after his second 739 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: pick of the it's pretty good call. You gotta shut up, 740 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: um w b Z with the call that was Bob 741 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: Sochi and a sentient power aid bottle. I think it's 742 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: uh Mountain Berry is the flavor, and usually I don't 743 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: um agree with a sports power drink, but I think, yes, 744 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson did deserve to be benched in this game. 745 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: Devin mccordy had two of the Patriots three interceptions of 746 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. Nick Folk, former Jet kick five field goals, 747 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick got another win, passing George Hallis on 748 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: the all time list. Final score Patriots twenty two, Jet seventeen. 749 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: That's more disappointment for Jets fans, and we'll get to 750 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: that in a moment, but let's start with the Pats 751 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: um who listen, they're not They're certainly not a great team. 752 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think the Patriots um are necessarily even 753 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: a good team, but in this in this season that 754 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: I think they could be a playoff team if they 755 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: do things like they did today, which is superior on 756 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: special teams. UM have a defense that got off the 757 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: mat after Monday Night's embarrassment and played well in this game, 758 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: and lean on a running game that is very good 759 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: with Stevenson leading the way. And that was enough because 760 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: at that point if you're a well prepared team that 761 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: wins in different phases of the game against a unproven 762 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: immature I'm not saying immature is like a person very 763 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: immature as a quarterback. Zack Wilson just let him beat 764 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: himself and his own team, and that's what happened. This 765 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: is this loss was totally on Zach Wilson. But credit 766 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: to the Patriots for basically forcing the Jets to lean 767 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: on their young passer and it didn't work. He just 768 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have it. I mean, there's too much stuff happening 769 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis. You talked about not wanting to 770 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: see the old Zach Wilson backwards figure eight scenario where 771 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: I did just whenever there's pressure or heat on him 772 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: coming towards him, like he will do something really mad cap, 773 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: he'll do something disorganized, so we have the ball into 774 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: weird places and like it costs them to get the game. Today, 775 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 1: Zola said, throw it up in the middle of the play. 776 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: I've never heard that before, and I know Zolak is 777 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: a little different, but he essentially was saying, I know 778 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: how Zack Wilson plays well. I'm sure a Zola did 779 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: that a lot in his own career, the most gifted 780 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: quarterback very rarely got in. I don't think he had 781 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: many attempts in his career. Uh for reasons saying like 782 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: throw it up, like this is our chance to actually score, 783 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: and that it was almost you know, the only way 784 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots were we're getting in good field position was 785 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: getting these turnovers from Zack Wilson. Uh. And then he 786 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: does it for you at that point like that, that 787 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: is a problem. This game turned Jets up ten through 788 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: late in the second quarter, they pick off Mac Jones, 789 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: who's no good either by the way, Mac Jones gets 790 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: picked off pick six from Michael Carter. Uh. Seventeen three, 791 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: Jets up late in the second quarter. But no, that 792 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: m a late hit was called on John Franklin Myers 793 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: on Mac Jones. It was borderline at best. It was 794 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: and a it wasn't like one of those uh roughing 795 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: the passer calls that you go nuts about. You could 796 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: see why it was called. But it literally turned a 797 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: seventeen three game into a ten six game after the 798 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: field goal and then the Patriots just started piling up 799 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: field goals because they don't really move the ball through 800 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 1: the air. The Jets defense was good in this game, 801 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: and then Zack Wilson imploded, and let's listen to um. 802 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: Robert Sala. I thought Mike White was elevated to the 803 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: number two spot on the depth chart, which I thought 804 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: was notable over Joe Flacco. I thought he should have 805 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: been in the game in the fourth quarter. After the game, 806 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: Robert sal was throwing his support behind his young quarterback. 807 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: Where have I heard all this before? We got faith 808 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: in n z Um. He's playing good football, he's been 809 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: he's taking care of the football since he's gotten back, 810 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: and he's shown uh flashes of good football. So um, 811 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: everyone locker room about everyone. Because Elijah Moore was asked 812 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: about his chemistry with Zach Wilson, here's what he had 813 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: to say. I wouldn't describe your chemistry with Zack on 814 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: the field. Probably I can't. I don't even know. I 815 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: couldn't even say I don't get a ball on The 816 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: problem is that that's not the first quote like that 817 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: by a wide receiver. There's just been disenchanting with the 818 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: fact that post Joe Flacco, you know, it's been Elijah 819 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: more mostly it's been in the media about it. I 820 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: may have missed it. Well, Denzel Min's has been having 821 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: problems since he got to the team. I just think 822 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: there's just there's got to be chatter. I'd love to 823 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: be on their group self threads or tex streads where 824 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, um, you know what for for all 825 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: Flacco's ills, uh, we were throwing the ball for three 826 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: hundred four hundred yards. Again, it's it's disappointing because without 827 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: Breeste Hall, obviously they have like a lesser margin for air. 828 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna need their defense, and it sounds like their 829 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,959 Speaker 1: defense could have won this game. But actually the yards 830 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 1: for the Patriots three point eight yards per carry per play, 831 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: which is really low, and paid treats. Fans were all 832 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: begging for mac Jones to be benched at halftime, and 833 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: and analysts were saying they thought mac Jones was going 834 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: to be benched at halftime. So it's strange that the Patriots, yes, 835 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: they win the game, but they finished the game with 836 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: five drives where they were in position to put it away, 837 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: and in those five drives they went four and out 838 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: three times and got one first down. And so I 839 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: think there's more legitimate questions. I haven't been as worried 840 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: about mac Jones um until this game. But now there's 841 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: real questions about mac Jones in his direction because the 842 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: difference there is a big difference between him and Wilson. 843 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he did play sixteen games Dan as a 844 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: starter and was really productive and was like a mid 845 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: level starter and the fact that he's taken what now 846 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: looks like a step back and it seems scrambled as 847 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: a second year starter. He was the best thing about 848 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: their season last year and now he's like the thing 849 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: that's holding them back potentially. Let me clarify, I'm not 850 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: saying that mac Jones is at the same level as 851 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: Zac Wilson. Jones has done way more in his time. 852 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: I just in general not overly impressed by him. And uh, 853 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: he really did get bailed out on that pick six 854 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: because that that could have changed the Patriots and the 855 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: Jet season. That roughing the past pastor call. But I'm 856 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: not making excuses. And a lot of people obviously in 857 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: my Twitter saying, oh, Dan, it's it's gonna be really 858 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: hard for you to I was like, no, it was 859 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 1: much harder last week when they won and lost Breese 860 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: Hall and Elijah Vera Tucker because and you guys are 861 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: giving it to me a little bit, and I got 862 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: other stuff like Dan, why are you in a bad 863 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: mood about the Jets like they're five and two? Because 864 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: I kind of saw this coming, like when you lose 865 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: the engine of your offense in Breece hall Um, and 866 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: then you have to turn it to Zach Wilson in 867 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: a big moment against Bill Belichick. Um. What we knew 868 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: about Wilson going into this game. I was hopeful that 869 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: they were gonna win, but I was never very confident 870 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: because this always felt like an outcome and in general, 871 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: on the Friday Fun Show, I talked about how this 872 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: could be it for Zach Wilson, This could be the 873 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: moment that we remember him by good or bad. I've 874 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: i've I still feel the same way that Zach Wilson 875 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: is probably not the dude, and Jets fans are now 876 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: now beginning this dance again where we're starting to look 877 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: ahead and decide whether or not we need to get 878 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: a new quarterback. They need to show significant growth with 879 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: him at the quarterback to invest beyond this year. There's 880 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 1: still a lot of season left. They get Best Buffalo 881 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: next week. That's not gonna be any easier. But this 882 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,720 Speaker 1: was a huge moment for the Jets and their fans. 883 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: The stage was set and the quarterback lost them the 884 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: game in a really ugly way. And that's disappointing to me, 885 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: but not stunning because good I don't mean good about 886 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: what happened today. But you want to find out that 887 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: you don't have something in Zach Wilson as fast as 888 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: possible versus one of these merry go round scenarios where 889 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: we're hearing about all offseason, how Zach Wilson's gonna grow 890 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: in X, Y and Z. This is a good team. 891 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: They've got a good roster, you've got a good general manager, 892 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: a good coach. Don't get sabotaged by the wrong quarterback 893 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: for is any another week if you don't need. But 894 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: the the thing with these two teams is are they're 895 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: trying to make the playoffs this year. And I don't 896 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 1: think I think Belichick is gonna stay loyal to Mac 897 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: Jones and stick with him, uh for a while. But 898 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a question. And to the Zach Wilson point, 899 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: that is a question because they have a whole locker 900 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: room full of guys who are trying to make the playoffs. 901 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't think Joe Douglas Robert Sala's jobs are going 902 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: to be in danger at all anymore. But they want 903 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs too, and you eventually owe 904 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: it to those guys, and He's gonna make them make 905 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: a decision at some point. Partly because we've seen what 906 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 1: the offense looks like with Flacco and not that it 907 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: was great, but it was an NFL offense. It was 908 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: a passing offense. And this just isn't with what do 909 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: you really want to See's the worst starter? You know 910 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: he's he's in the mix, is the worst starter in 911 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: the league? Zach Wilson against the Bills if if they 912 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: don't make the decision now, that could be the executioner song. 913 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: But you know what, to the point, like I said 914 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: last week, they low when Breese Hall went out, it 915 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: lowered their ceiling. It's a developmental season for the team. 916 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: I want to see Zack Wilson. When I say I 917 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: want him on the bench at the end of this game, 918 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: I didn't mean bencham for good. I mean to get 919 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: Mike White in there and see if you could get 920 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: two scores quickly and steal another game. Um, But this 921 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: absolutely is a developmental year for the Jets, even if 922 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: they're improving, and you need to know whether he can 923 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: play or not, and it's starting to be more and 924 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 1: more mounting evidence that he just doesn't have the ability 925 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 1: to do what Mark play the guitar, play that guitar. 926 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: The gar's not a musician, which is sort of a 927 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: problem for some athletes. Keep an eye on the Patriots 928 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: trade market here. Nelson Aguillards, Davante Parker, and Kendrick Born 929 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: combined for three targets in two yards in this game, 930 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 1: and I was interested to see rap sheet talking about 931 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: like kind of all the receivers are available this weekend 932 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: or this week so like all these teams of Brandon 933 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: Cooks's past being connected to Brandon Cooks this weekend. I 934 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: love these teams like telling us that these mid range 935 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: players that you could you wouldn't send a bag of 936 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: rocks for are available in trades. It's like, great, thanks 937 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: for the update. You've really nice. Reverse Born leading receiver 938 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: from a year ago. Come on, if you thought, I like, 939 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: if you've out the Jets today, we're depressing, well, guess 940 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 1: what the Detroit Lions are the team around the NFL, 941 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: and that is not going well at all. Let's check 942 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: it was a mistake and to add the shotgun back 943 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: to throne. Now looking touchdown, Miami, Mike, you're sicking. The 944 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: Dolphins have their first leading this football game. To love 945 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: it yard touchdown the sixties fourth of the year. What's 946 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: the problem? They're always just so chill on the Dolphins. 947 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's a little more verb. Let's get exciting. 948 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: That was a great play. Doesn't sound like great come back? 949 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, to a read through all his progressions 950 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: found Mikeaseki late in the third quarter for the touchdown. 951 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: The captain Dolphins rally from a double digit second half deficit. 952 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean you gotta be pumped up there 953 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: in a big spot. Uh. Dolphins Radio anyway, win over 954 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,959 Speaker 1: the Lions. Maybe because it was so inevitable, because playing 955 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: the Lions, it doesn't matter because you know they're gonna 956 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: give you infinite chances to score thirty to forty points. Anyway. 957 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill twelve, he's gonna have two thousand yards, by 958 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: the way, Tyree Hill j lin quaddle, he's gonna have 959 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: sevent yards. Everybody eight for one oh six and two touchdowns? 960 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: Uh and two. Ah has another win. So Greg, let's 961 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: start with the Dolphins. Yeah, let's be positive. First. Let's 962 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 1: start with the Dolphins, because they're five and three. They're 963 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: now tied with the Jets behind the Bills in the 964 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 1: a f C East. And this was the game personally 965 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to see. I expected it. In fact, I 966 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: predicted it on the Friday Fun Show. Exactly what happened. 967 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: Just light up a defense, score a ton of points 968 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: and get things roll, and not just big numbers, big 969 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: like score points. And they did in this one right, 970 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: And in a tough spot where their defense gives up 971 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 1: twenty seven points in the first half, their defense doesn't 972 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: get a single stop. There was not a punt by 973 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: either team in the first half of this game, so 974 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: too was in a spot where he had to keep 975 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: delivering and responding with points. I think this was, if 976 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: not the best game of Tah's career. It's this and 977 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: that Ravens game earlier than this season. And I say 978 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: that because just the decisions were all pristine. And you 979 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: can say, oh, it's the opponent, yeah, but you still 980 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: have to make those quick to siven decisions and deliver 981 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: to the right guy in all the different spots you 982 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: mentioned how he was like on the third progression with Kasiki. 983 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,959 Speaker 1: Their offensive line played fantastic, but he had thirteen completions 984 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: that went ten or more are yards. Ten of those 985 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 1: were in the ten to twenty range, and that's where 986 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 1: the Dolphins live. He's just accurate, and he was sloppy 987 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: last week. He was not sloppy today. Every pass was 988 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: right on point. And yeah he has to like kind 989 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: of run up to get it deep to Tyree Killer 990 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: and it feels like it's a little under thrown. It 991 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, and then it's still still forty in the 992 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: in the box score and then accounts. The one thing 993 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: that that with Waddle and Hill is they seemed like 994 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: today in other weeks they're so open, they're just sitting, 995 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and he's making strows. So I made a 996 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 1: couple of rows and a couple of scrambles to which 997 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: were I thought, really in in improvising improvisational place too, 998 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: like on top of that over the top for the offense, right, 999 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: because yes, he's not the guy that's gonna herbert you 1000 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: with bombs, but with the guys and their skill set 1001 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: getting the ball down to the twelve yards downfield and 1002 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: then let let them get forty yards. I mean the 1003 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: Hill and Waddle had twenty catches for three hundred yards. Essentially, 1004 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like this in terms of a 1005 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: wide out duo, right, and the the scoring ended weirdly 1006 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the third quarter. Did Dolphins have 1007 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of a ball control offense? It doesn't feel like 1008 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: that because they have such chunk plays, but their games 1009 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 1: often have sometimes have very few possessions. And the Lions 1010 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: only had the ball three times in the second half. 1011 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: So after scoring twenty seven points in the first half, uh, 1012 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: they only had it three times in the second half. 1013 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: They had like two pretty quick punts. And the Dolphins 1014 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: offense the way they're playing here, like, you punt a 1015 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: couple of times against them, you might not get the 1016 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: ball for a while and you're done. The game really 1017 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,479 Speaker 1: turned on the final play of the first half. Josh 1018 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: Reynolds dropped a touchdown which would have given the Lions 1019 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: thirty one point in the first half, and it would 1020 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,439 Speaker 1: have made the two teams have six hundred total yards, 1021 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 1: which I was rooting for because it was just like 1022 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: a nice round number. I was gonna tweet it, but 1023 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: he dropped it. That's the tragedy, right, he dropped it, 1024 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: and then they kicked the field goal. And then there 1025 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: was a play on fourth and long late in the 1026 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: game where the Lions were trying to take the lead 1027 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: back where I thought Golf played through a pretty good ball, 1028 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: giving Reynolds a chance to make a play, and again 1029 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: he didn't make a play. It was right on the 1030 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: goal line. Would have been a big play. And that 1031 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: was that. Let's now has become part of our sentence 1032 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: for our let's let's face it at this point, mistake 1033 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: of select. Don't try to distance yourself from this. Mark. 1034 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 1: We we're noticing you're doing that every week you voted 1035 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: with us. I am acknowledging that I made a mistake 1036 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: a month and a half ago. We are all on 1037 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 1: the same I'm not I've never said I didn't vote 1038 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: for the Lions. I am simply saying it was a 1039 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: terrible decision, and I'm accepting one third of it. You're, yeah, 1040 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: you bailed after one game. I don't. But I'm not 1041 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: the boat you're doing. You're doing. You're doing the thing 1042 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, Mark, like you're not being a 1043 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: know It's like I made the mistake. I am part 1044 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: of the process that that I'm calling faulty. I'm just 1045 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: calling it faulty. Where a couple's like, no, we're sticking. 1046 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: It's like I we had to stick with him. But 1047 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: it is a sentence and it was a bad job. 1048 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 1: I believe that the Raiders tim of a t L 1049 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: from about five years ago that you rubber stamped. This 1050 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: is your chance to get even a little bit because 1051 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: you went down with the Raiders that year when I 1052 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: picked the Vikings as the team of a t L. 1053 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: You spent two months acting like you weren't part of 1054 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: that process. There we go, So the point the finger 1055 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: back at yourself for how have you behaved years in 1056 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: years past? There it is, you're trying to settle the score. 1057 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: No I'm I'm not sitting. Oh it was you and Greg, 1058 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: and look at me. I had nothing to do. I 1059 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: mean we have video and audio evidence. I still think 1060 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: your rally Lions, well, Gregg, you're the psychotomy one the 1061 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: rally to four wins. Part of our sentence, I was 1062 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: going to say, is Dan Campbell hearing him sad every Sunday. 1063 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: Let's listen. My thought is is that as frustrating as 1064 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 1: it he is, I know how close we are because 1065 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,919 Speaker 1: we are still talking about one play. And the hard 1066 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: thing is to just keep doing your job, you know, 1067 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: and stand in the thick of the storm. And easy 1068 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: thing is to go down below and get onder the 1069 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 1: blanket and eat all the food and whatever. Is the 1070 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 1: guys who were going to stay on the deck and 1071 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: just continue to do their part um because I know 1072 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: the sun's coming. That's those are the guys we're looking for. 1073 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 1: So see, Kan and I are under the blanket right now, 1074 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 1: we're eating the food. He's telling you not to go. 1075 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: That's where the people would know courage. I would like 1076 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: to go there. That was confusing that we're on the 1077 00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 1: deck waiting for the ready ready for ready for at all. 1078 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: We can't get out once you're in your in. But 1079 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: it's been bad, they've been since we selected. It is 1080 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 1: particularly cruel and can't get a whole lot worse than 1081 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: like we would be on top of this whether we 1082 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: had picked them or not. But man, the way they 1083 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 1: lose these games. They are every game has like a moment. 1084 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: They are in all these games. They don't have a 1085 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: pass rush though, and I don't know if that's going 1086 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: to change. Aidan Hutchinson and the rest of the defensive 1087 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 1: line just they just can't get any pressure. It's going 1088 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 1: them all right. Let's take a break and move on 1089 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: to happier things. Welcome back. I'm not looking for good, 1090 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking for great. And with that in line, let's 1091 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 1: head to big D fields in the garden back to throw. 1092 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: Parsons coming. He flushes out left, he stops, he dumps 1093 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: it short till the five still holding my covering. We're cover. 1094 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: God gas the parson just on the ball, Tell on, 1095 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: it's tell he's still running. He's still moving with the 1096 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 1: ball to the tad, to the fun to the line. 1097 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: Persons covered the phone ball and brought it all the 1098 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 1: way back. Freakish Brad Shamon Babelfenberg, k R l D. 1099 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, the the Michael Parsons LT stuff that we 1100 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: talked about. Whatever you could be on that debate. You 1101 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: could say it's too premature, you could say he's that 1102 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: at that level potentially, But that's the type of play. 1103 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 1: It's like that was LT like he flushes justin fields 1104 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: out of the pocket. He runs the play down twelve 1105 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: fifteen yards downfield, picks up the ball, then has the 1106 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: smarts to run even though it seemed like he was 1107 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 1: down by contact and he scores a touchdown that basically 1108 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: ice the game for the Cowboys. Thank you to Justin 1109 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: Fields for hopping over him. That was remarkable. The Fields 1110 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 1: just to get out of the way, missed him by inches, 1111 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: allowing that touchdown to happen. But let's face it, the 1112 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys probably would have taken over and scored a touchdown anyway. 1113 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: The way this one went. They scored the first four 1114 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 1: times they had the ball for the first time, and 1115 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: I believe eight years Dallas did. And while Chicago was 1116 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: game and they were um competitive for large chunks of 1117 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: this game after falling behind huge early um they were 1118 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: just ultimately overmatched by Dallas. And what the reason why, 1119 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: Mark I'm saying maybe we could put Dallas into the 1120 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: great category, not in the Big three, but in that 1121 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: next spot below, is because now you're seeing the offense 1122 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: clicking in concert with that defense that we already know 1123 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: could be one of the best in the league. Right 1124 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: the defense is NFC Title game where they it is 1125 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: potentially super Bowl worthy in this campaign, and they got 1126 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: to the record. They were at and one with Cooper 1127 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: Rush and made a thing out of Cooper rush because 1128 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: it was the defense propping them up week back, week 1129 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: after week. When you go look at what Dallas did today, 1130 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 1: and if you look at the last eight quarters of 1131 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, some of his throws today and the way 1132 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: that they just absolutely fried Chica. Ages defense, which looked 1133 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: good against the Patriots weekend, has had some good, good games. 1134 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: One scoring drive eleven eight yards eight fifty four. They're 1135 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: just able to string together plays, make passes through the air. 1136 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, I'm with you that Zeke and Tony Pollard 1137 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: are a good combo. But Tony Pollard is a starting 1138 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: running back on any other team flat out is looks 1139 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: awesome and he's better than Ezekiel Alley. Well. I think 1140 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: there's just debate where it's like we were not meant 1141 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 1: to say that or something, but it's just like he 1142 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: just looks to me like a better version of a 1143 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: starting running back. But that's fine. That's a good problem 1144 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: to have. And they've got weapons all over the price 1145 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: and if you're gonna get this version of Dak Prescott 1146 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: today and the way that they called plays um their 1147 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: fringe e on great. I never really believe in the 1148 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys with this whole thing. That's my issue. I think 1149 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: they could be in this world. The Zeke Pollard thing 1150 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: is really a Gerra driven narrative more than anything else, 1151 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: because he's paying him so much, at least for one 1152 00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: more year fantasy to and Zeke has he has value 1153 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: to the team on some level because he can grind 1154 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: out yards. He's a good goal line guy, obviously, but 1155 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: I think it's clear to anybody that watches these games, 1156 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: Apollard is the better, more dynamic running back. And I 1157 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: do think, even what whatever Jared says, because Jared loves 1158 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: Zeke too, so he's showing him some respect, You're gonna 1159 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: see it in the box score more and more that 1160 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: this is Tony Poller's backfield. Right there, there was the 1161 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: proof of concept game. Okay, we don't have Zeke. Uh, 1162 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 1: let's put up almost a fifty burger on a pretty 1163 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: good defense. This game, you know, changes a little how 1164 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: we see the Cowboys. Not that we should need to 1165 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: see Dak Prescott playing well, but it's nice. It's just 1166 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: been a while, and like the Bears a week ago, 1167 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: changed who I thought think they can be this year, 1168 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: just in terms of a frisky team that's watchable and 1169 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: in this game, you know, move the ball fields played better. 1170 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: You know, they ran the ball great again. I think 1171 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: Dallas showing that they can put up this type of 1172 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: offensive performance does put them in the great category, because 1173 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 1: the numbers would tell you, Dan that they're already pretty 1174 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: closely great. They were third or fourth in d v 1175 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: o A as a team with average quarterback play at 1176 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 1: best going into this game, and now you have Dak Prescott. 1177 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: If you get normal Pro Bowl Dak Prescott, that's that's 1178 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 1: cooking with gas. Yeah, And I like in the power ranks, 1179 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: for example, they're an easy number four for me this week, 1180 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: like they were an easy number four last week. So 1181 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: they're they're interesting and potentially getting better. Um, Chicago ran 1182 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: for two forty yards on the ground, which was this 1183 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 1: is kind of a weird game, and they jumped out 1184 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: early and then you could see Dallas kind of let 1185 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 1: up a little bit on defense. We'll see if maybe 1186 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: the defense now is coming down to earth a little 1187 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: bit after the off after carrying the offense. That it's 1188 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: a long season. This stuff can happen sometimes, but overall, 1189 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: I feel very confident about the Cowboys moving forward. We're 1190 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: back to a place where like Justin Fields had forty 1191 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 1: six yards passing at the half. But something that's happened 1192 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: in the mid over the last couple of weeks you 1193 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: mentioned Greg, I think Fields has gotten better as a passer. 1194 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: His what he does on the ground legitimately scrambles defensive coordinators. 1195 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 1: And they're just a great running team in general. And 1196 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,479 Speaker 1: so I, I don't know. It felt like the entire 1197 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: run of this podcast, the Bears have been a frustrating watch. Um. 1198 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 1: They had a couple of playoff years in there, but 1199 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: you weren't buying it. This team is enjoyable, and I 1200 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: even today there were moments in big plays where it's like, 1201 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: I'll sign up to watch the Bears weekly and we 1202 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 1: haven't really given them credit for doing anything in a 1203 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 1: long time because they didn't deserve it. Yeah, Fields is 1204 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 1: getting better, um, and he was good in this game. 1205 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot around him. And I talked 1206 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 1: about on Thursday that after that great emotional win over 1207 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots in prime time, you trade away Robert Quinn 1208 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: and then the defense doesn't even show up until halftime 1209 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 1: in this game, but you scored twenty nine points on 1210 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the league. So that 1211 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: is progress. Is a developmental year for Chicago, and I 1212 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: think we're seeing some good things despite this loss. I 1213 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 1: also like when Jerry starts getting frisky after the game 1214 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: and their six and two, which is great, and they 1215 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,439 Speaker 1: look great, but they're still stuck in that division where 1216 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: they got some ground to make up, and they're looking 1217 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: at the trade market, he said, and we feel they said, 1218 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: they feel good about their chances where you're going with 1219 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 1: this at first, but now I know and and he 1220 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: said he said, also, well there's some guys that aren't 1221 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: even on other teams that are available. And someone was like, oh, 1222 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 1: Odell and uh and he was like, oh, I didn't 1223 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: say that, but he did it with like the wink, 1224 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, winking grin that Jerry. I was like, okay, 1225 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 1: I can see that. Like if I'm Odell Beckham, I 1226 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: look at the Rams and I look at the Cowboys, 1227 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 1: and uh, it's just an old huckster at heart. He's 1228 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: not I got three whiskers in me, whiskey. Let's move 1229 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 1: on that. We can't say anymore. Give it to Henry 1230 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 1: outside of the Tan puts a move onto the five 1231 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: stiff arm dives over the pylon Touchdad Titans. Was a 1232 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: man size run by deep man Derrick Henry. What a 1233 01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: great run by Derrick Henry. He's not a man. Derrick 1234 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: Henry is the big dog. Feed the big dog and 1235 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: he will growl and bite and destroy. Mike Keith with 1236 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the call w g f X, Derrick Henry for the 1237 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 1: fourth time in a row against the Texans, went over 1238 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 1: two hundred yards on the ground on thirty two cars. 1239 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the great running backs of 1240 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 1: his error, in the future Hall of Famer, and he 1241 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: could do the stuff that Madrean Peterson could do in 1242 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: his prime, you know, like one of those dudes. Anyway, 1243 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: that's all they needed, Derrick Henry, because even with Ryan 1244 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: Tannehill out of this game, boys um and the rookie 1245 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: quarterback not doing a damn thing, you had Derrick Henry. 1246 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 1: And that's that's that tells you, Mark, Like, what special 1247 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: about a guy like Henry, what separates him from other 1248 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: great running backs. The entire Houston Texans staff and every 1249 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: player knew that the Titans weren't gonna be able to 1250 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 1: move the ball if they didn't run the ball, and 1251 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: it didn't matter. Henry just got the job done. And 1252 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 1: Tennessee keeps winning. That's like the most powerful, like a 1253 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: powerful version of an athlete where it's like everyone knows, uh, 1254 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 1: here comes Derrick Henry imposing ones will. Yes, I think 1255 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: that's well. Also, let's impose his will thirty two times 1256 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 1: and how the quarterback throw ten passes, which was a 1257 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: smart decision because I mean that's what you want the 1258 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 1: Browns to do with and other teams to do. I mean, 1259 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 1: in this case, it works. I mean they could give 1260 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 1: the ball the Hilliard a little more. Donhall Hilliard goes 1261 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: eight for eighty three. I just worry Derrick Henry gets 1262 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: these thirty two carry games, and he's had a few lately. 1263 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 1: But it's crazy that he kept the two hundred yards 1264 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: in two touchdown streak against the Texans going It's it's 1265 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: preposterous that he's doing. He's at a four straight times. Dan. 1266 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: It is exciting when you can just see something special 1267 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: in sports. And one of his first runs of the 1268 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 1: date game, he was swallowing through the Texans line and 1269 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 1: just like jumping back and forth laterally, and You're like, wow, 1270 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: he looks as explosive as he's ever looked. And I 1271 01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 1: hate when teams like the Texans tack on in yards 1272 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 1: on a garbage time drive. Because the yardage in this 1273 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 1: game was three fifty four to seventy one before that drive. 1274 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: That's how much of a domme you had. Davis Mills, 1275 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: who took another big step back after taking a step 1276 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: forward last week. He had seventeen yards I believe through 1277 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 1: the air in the first half of this game. It 1278 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 1: was it was not we're bringing Grave digger here because 1279 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: I know he's feeling hot. Even though A. J. Brown 1280 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: proved to be godlike for another team, you could just 1281 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: forget about that because not only did the Titans win again, uh, 1282 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 1: you locked it up just like I locked it up, 1283 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: just like Mark locked it up. Did I get everybody? 1284 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: Good job all sticking with that? I think that was great, noblemen. 1285 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 1: We stuck with the Titans because the Texans stink, and 1286 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. Justin Yeah, the Texans 1287 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: were not a good team today or this season. I 1288 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 1: guess the Titans average insight, Titans average seven yards a 1289 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: carry and that includes molliek Willis is five carriers for 1290 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: twelve yards. They threw one pass in the second half 1291 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: and it was like, Wow, it's Mike Abel's dream. It 1292 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 1: was Malik Willis rolling out of bound, literally jumping out 1293 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: of bounds and throwing a pass right before he landed 1294 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 1: at it like it could have almost been counted as 1295 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: him just being out of bounds. But that was the 1296 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: only past I had it there on the second half. 1297 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 1: And just like everyone in the stadium knows that the 1298 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Titans are gonna run it on every play and they 1299 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 1: still pop off seven yards of carry is unblood. I 1300 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 1: don't know if that that doesn't work in January as 1301 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 1: we've seen, but um, and it's not gonna work probably 1302 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 1: if Malik Willis is starting against the Chiefs next Sunday night, 1303 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 1: which is a huge game for Tennessee in terms of 1304 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 1: a measuring stick. But ultimately they have things under control. 1305 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 1: Malik Willis didn't show me a lot of it, like 1306 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: we said, they didn't really give him a lot to 1307 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 1: do in this game. Um, But I I feel good 1308 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 1: about Tennessee again. They're they're built very well to succeed 1309 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 1: in this landscape of the NFL. I think you tweeted 1310 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 1: justin that they are in line right now is the 1311 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 1: second seed in the a f C. They are gonna 1312 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: be in that mix because I think they're going to 1313 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 1: continue to grind down teams and close out games. Yeah, 1314 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: the offensive line still looks like a really great run 1315 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: blocking unit, even though they cannot pass protect very well. 1316 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: But if you want to just break down the leak, 1317 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: willis really quickly. In his first NFL start, I would 1318 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 1: say eight of his ten passes were really bad um 1319 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: and one of those includes a throwaway that like he 1320 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 1: should have run the ball for like at least twenty 1321 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: yards and he threw it away. He missed a Chicka 1322 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 1: kwanco on like a tight end wheel route that would 1323 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: have been a touchdown just like late and overthrew it. 1324 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: His interception was late and off target. He had one 1325 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 1: really nice play rolling out to the left where he 1326 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 1: like the arm angle rolling left to throw to get 1327 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the ball to Robert woods On the biggest completion of 1328 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: the day for sixteen yards. Was a really fantastic play. 1329 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 1: But even that one was like him sitting in the pocket, 1330 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 1: holding it too long and then making something happen afterwards. 1331 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 1: But like he's he's not processing quickly at all, he's 1332 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: not seeing the field well, and he's not getting the 1333 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: ball out of his hand. Let's get Hill back in 1334 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 1: the lineup basically, and by the way he was Texans 1335 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 1: had the ankle and then came down with some type 1336 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 1: of stomach bug or something Tannehill some type of illness, 1337 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: And this worked out perfectly because you took our business. 1338 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: You give him more time to rest, get the angle right, 1339 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and hopefully they're ready to roll against Kansas City. That's 1340 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a good one. It's kind of an example. 1341 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: If you're Ryan Tannehill, it's like, oh, you don't want 1342 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: to get injured and be on the line up. But 1343 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 1: this was the guy who was in theory breathing down 1344 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,680 Speaker 1: your neck and it's like, let's uh press pause on 1345 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 1: the leak Willis for a bit here, Yes, let's head 1346 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,599 Speaker 1: to the Superdome where strange thing uh In the NFL 1347 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: on this eve of Halloween, only one team showed up truck. 1348 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: It hard to be competitive in that scenario. Salton depro 1349 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: looking looking comps across a little tours kind of Tonny 1350 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,639 Speaker 1: hot Towny Cup game, Tan dear sidned he will scoot 1351 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 1: into the end zone. Alvin coadune it again free for 1352 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:53,720 Speaker 1: three three t ds for a king. My favorite thing 1353 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 1: about Alvin Kamara is if you if he's near the 1354 01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 1: goal line with the ball. Not so much on that. 1355 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: But there was another run where just like he's gonna 1356 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: get over the goal line. He is the best finisher 1357 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: in the league. Maybe Derek, but he's the stars. Mike 1358 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 1: cost with the call w w L. Three touchdowns, yes, 1359 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,640 Speaker 1: rablemy Kmara and a ZIP win over the Raiders. U. 1360 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: This came after Camara after that ugly um lost Arizona 1361 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 1: on Thursday night in the locker room after the game, 1362 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: really gave it to the team and demanded that they 1363 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 1: clean up their act and be better. And Greg, that's 1364 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 1: what a leader does. Uh. He then backs it up 1365 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 1: with big time play and the Saints are off the 1366 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: mat and the Raiders are off in space somewhere. I 1367 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,559 Speaker 1: don't know what happened with the Raiders here, and we'll 1368 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 1: get to them, but I like that. Pete Carmichael, their 1369 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 1: play caller, made a point to get Camara the ball 1370 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: early and often. I think it was something like six 1371 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: or eight of their first eight of their first twelve 1372 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: plays was to Camara in all game. Dalton was looking 1373 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: for him on the checkdown and sometimes as a primary receiver, 1374 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 1: and I think that's why they kept Andy Dalton as 1375 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 1: their quarterback. It sounds silly, but he gets camera the 1376 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: ball and I think that is a window into who 1377 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 1: he is as a quarterback versus who Jamis is, who 1378 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 1: just never takes checkdown and is bad at the short game. 1379 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 1: And what this team needs is a quarterback who's good 1380 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 1: at the short game because they don't have their wide 1381 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 1: receivers right now. The fact that they went up and 1382 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 1: down the field on Vegas without Jarvis Landry and Michael 1383 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: Thomas was impressive, but the fact that they shut out 1384 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,719 Speaker 1: the Raiders, who had been scoring thirty three per on defense, 1385 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 1: was way more impressive and gives me way more optimism 1386 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: that this team could bounce back to Frisky because their 1387 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 1: defense is stunk all year and you could see it 1388 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 1: from the very first snap. They were so active and 1389 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,599 Speaker 1: just getting after Derek Carr, Davenport, Jordan's even Peyton Turner 1390 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: their first round pick, We're just getting after him. And 1391 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 1: they ended up with a goose sec. They had a 1392 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 1: hundred and I think nineteen cards until their garbage time 1393 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: drive the Raiders for the entire game. I mean, I 1394 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: just wonder if it's the Raiders the flat out stink 1395 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 1: after I spent two weeks thinking, you know what, they 1396 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: changed the right under Josh McDaniels. They're gonna run the ball. 1397 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: It makes Derek car much more efficient. Like Davante Adams 1398 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: disappeared today. It's like whatever they think they were came 1399 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 1: into this game trying to do, they couldn't do. Easy 1400 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 1: on the criticism of Derek Carr because he's going to 1401 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 1: be the Jets quarterback next year. Um, should be a 1402 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,800 Speaker 1: fun off season. Yeah, Um, you know I'm a little 1403 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,720 Speaker 1: mad now in retrospect that this this had all the trappings, 1404 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,160 Speaker 1: Greggy of a classic cornered animal game. Same for the Saints. 1405 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: They were home after like half a bye week against 1406 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 1: an inconsistent opponent, and they just whipped up on the Raiders, 1407 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 1: who are a mess. Let's listen to Josh McDaniels, who, 1408 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: by the way, for the second time in like three 1409 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 1: or four weeks, got called into the principal's office to 1410 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 1: speak with Mark Davis before he addressed the media. That's 1411 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 1: like a two strikes, three strikes, Maybe you're out. Let's 1412 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 1: let's to Josh McDaniels. It's not going well, Greggy. I 1413 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: have to do a much better job of getting ourselves 1414 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 1: ready to go here. Um, that's that's We're better than that. 1415 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I apologize to Raider Nation for 1416 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: for that performance. And again I own that that's that's 1417 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:22,360 Speaker 1: my responsibility. So Cessy was really annoyed that this was 1418 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: not his game. This was the all time. It was 1419 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:32,600 Speaker 1: twenty four nothing early in the third quarter, early in 1420 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 1: the third quarter. This game was put to bed early 1421 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,799 Speaker 1: in the third quarter and it ended at twelve forty 1422 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: four I think Pacific time. It was like over so early. 1423 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,959 Speaker 1: Then it essentially was a second half party for everyone 1424 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 1: in the super Dome, like and there was no let 1425 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 1: up to it. Mark, you're saddled with Carolina Atlanta. Yeah, 1426 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,680 Speaker 1: we went on till probably four thirty Eastern. But I I, 1427 01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: you know what, like to say, you like a game 1428 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,680 Speaker 1: like this, Like it's just a rarity in this it 1429 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 1: never happens. Shout out to Christo Lava who went five two. 1430 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,599 Speaker 1: But I just watch him every week and he can 1431 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 1: do everything. He is the best rookie receiver in the 1432 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: game this year, and he's like he's at number one. 1433 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 1: He if anything, he was undersold. He's carried this passing 1434 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 1: game as a rookie it's pretty impressive. Yeah, and uh, 1435 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 1: at some point I imagine Michael Thomas will come back, 1436 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,680 Speaker 1: but there is on the on the path, on the 1437 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,880 Speaker 1: path to friskiness. Um. Getting those two guys on the 1438 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,560 Speaker 1: field together, a healthy version of Michael Thomas would be 1439 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 1: very interesting. With Alman Kamara healthy and this division, they 1440 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: got a chance a little taste IM thrown in. Oh yeah, 1441 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,760 Speaker 1: can we just can we see them string together? Like 1442 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 1: three wins? Give me a break? Like, yeah, yeah, I 1443 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 1: want to see more. But the Saints are enjoyable on 1444 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 1: many levels, and they have been, but it's like I 1445 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,600 Speaker 1: could also see them dropping the next two games and 1446 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 1: us talking about the defense falling through the floor. I agree, 1447 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,639 Speaker 1: but this was like a proof that they are better 1448 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 1: than than they've shown. Something in there, Taysom Hill and 1449 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,000 Speaker 1: it went something in the mix, don't check the I 1450 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,639 Speaker 1: don't disagree necessarily, but I would like a little more proof. 1451 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not saying a game right now, we're 1452 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,679 Speaker 1: just saying, okay, all right. I don't even I can't 1453 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 1: even imagine what the NFC title game is gonna be 1454 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: at this point. It's gonna I mean, show me the 1455 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 1: team number two Eagles Cowboys, three Eagles, forty Niners. I 1456 01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 1: mean there's some good teams. Let us take a break, 1457 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:29,760 Speaker 1: be right back, all right, let's head for the last 1458 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,719 Speaker 1: time this season. Another grand success over there in England. 1459 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 1: The London series capped with the Jaguars, of course, bounced 1460 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 1: up to the Broncos defense first and Tennethy shuck and 1461 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 1: sniff Frober. Lawrence looks right, Froze right, that ball is 1462 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 1: gonna be intercepted. The balls intercepted by Kawan Williams. His 1463 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: first interception is a deva Bronco and it may have 1464 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 1: very well seal the deal here in London. Unbelievable play 1465 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 1: by Williams. David Logan with a call k o A. 1466 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 1: He's got like a ligament damage in his elbow and 1467 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 1: the whole arm is all got a cast on it 1468 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 1: chanked up, and somehow he makes a dive in catch 1469 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 1: to seal that game. Trevor Lawrence once again fall short 1470 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 1: in a big spot and the Broncos survive and getting 1471 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 1: much needed win over the Jaguars at Wembley Stadium. Russell 1472 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 1: Wilson not overly impressive here, greggy, but at the same time, 1473 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not like the biggest fan of the at 1474 01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,439 Speaker 1: ESPN team. But they did set the table nicely ahead 1475 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 1: of them, ahead of the last drive where uh, you know, 1476 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 1: this is a big drive for Russell Wilson and the 1477 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 1: Broncos immediate future, and he led them down the field 1478 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 1: for the go ahead score. So two touchdown drives for 1479 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Wilson latee allows them to escape and exhale. Yeah, he 1480 01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,680 Speaker 1: did not play well in this game. I know, I 1481 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 1: know you hate the grading, but he will not grade well, 1482 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 1: I assume on PFF. But the way, yes, that that 1483 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 1: was that great, but the way it ended it was perfect. 1484 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 1: He started that drive you talked about with one of 1485 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,799 Speaker 1: those old t D sexy deep balls to kJ Hamler. 1486 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,560 Speaker 1: That's what he does. Well, you know what else he 1487 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 1: did in that drive, He scrambled on third down to 1488 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: keep it going in the red zone. We need to 1489 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: see more of that, and then they end up running 1490 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: the ball in. He he did make some big plays 1491 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: in this game, even if it was sandwiched around a 1492 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,760 Speaker 1: lot of ineptitude and missing open receivers, and I think 1493 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,560 Speaker 1: that's huge for them. We've heard some whispers, you know, 1494 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: some reporting that who knows if Hackett uh is gonna 1495 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 1: make it through the whole season here and this was 1496 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,320 Speaker 1: a game that you never want to get left back 1497 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,519 Speaker 1: in England. So I think it's massive for them in 1498 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 1: the same way that it's crushed seen for the Jaguars, 1499 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,120 Speaker 1: because I guess we've probably given up on the Jaguars, 1500 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 1: but I don't think they've given up on themselves, and 1501 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 1: this is uh a humbling win. I feel like to 1502 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 1: not be able to close out I think on both 1503 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,639 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, defensively and offensively, there's big questions 1504 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 1: for the Jags. It feels like every week to the 1505 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,880 Speaker 1: if you're a Jaguars fan, it's there. We debated a 1506 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 1: little bit about Trevor Lawrence. I don't think anyone saying 1507 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has fully arrived, but it's like on any level, 1508 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 1: but there are mis throws every week, and there are 1509 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 1: last minute turnovers and they're just too much left on 1510 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: the field and it kind of mass over the kind 1511 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 1: of game you got from Travis etn It was fantastic today. 1512 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 1: It's like, can the Jaguars learned to close? Could the 1513 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,439 Speaker 1: Broncos learned to play offense at all? And at least 1514 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,400 Speaker 1: we got halfway there today? Do I think it. It 1515 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 1: doesn't change what I think about the Denver Broncos not 1516 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, I I think that. I mean they got, 1517 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,880 Speaker 1: they get at three and five. They are no one's 1518 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,320 Speaker 1: idea of a real contender right now. But it would 1519 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 1: have been a disaster if they didn't find the way 1520 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 1: to win this game. And you know, I've said it myself. 1521 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,680 Speaker 1: I beat the drum a little bit, like do we 1522 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 1: have to every week talk about whether Trevor Lawrence is 1523 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 1: living up to the hype. Well, now we're about halfway 1524 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,559 Speaker 1: through his second season and he was picked one spot 1525 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,599 Speaker 1: ahead of Zack Wilson. I think he has longer rope 1526 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 1: with his organization than Zack Wilson will have to the eye, 1527 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 1: yes he's He's had moments, for sure, more moments, uh 1528 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 1: than Zack Wilson, but maybe not a ton more. It's 1529 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,040 Speaker 1: and it's a little bit it's a little bit depressing 1530 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 1: to see this game where he throws a red zone 1531 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 1: interception on first and goal from the one in the 1532 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 1: first half, he throws that pick on the final drive 1533 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,640 Speaker 1: and you're waiting for him to kind of make that 1534 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 1: a rival and it's just not happening. So Jacksonville fans, 1535 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I can only imagine the frustration you're feeling because you 1536 01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 1: keep waiting to hear about this guy that you were 1537 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,280 Speaker 1: told was this generational talent and he's yet to arrive. 1538 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 1: I felt like today was a turning point for that. 1539 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,320 Speaker 1: Just looking at Twitter and some of the Jaguars reporters, 1540 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 1: I think in this spot, I think the average for 1541 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 1: yards per attempt and those that first and goal interception 1542 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,559 Speaker 1: was inexcusable and was the biggest play in the game 1543 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 1: to me, right, but either way, him throwing that in 1544 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 1: that spot, they should have been up fourteen nothing, which 1545 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,600 Speaker 1: good luck for the Broncos coming back. I just I 1546 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 1: just see the ball not going where he wants. He's 1547 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 1: better this year. He's getting closer to being a league 1548 01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,519 Speaker 1: average starter. But he's just not accurate when he sets. 1549 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,679 Speaker 1: And that's why blaming urban Meyer for everything didn't make sense. 1550 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 1: There were so many times last year where he sets 1551 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 1: in a clean pocket and just misses the target he's 1552 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,760 Speaker 1: throwing too. That that said, I feel I'd have much 1553 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 1: more patience with him and not even consider anything other 1554 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,559 Speaker 1: than continuing to develop around. I agree with that he's 1555 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 1: not He's not like a bottom five disaster. That we're 1556 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 1: ready to jump ship on. It's also not a lot 1557 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 1: of Island Jaguars games where everyone's watching Trevor Lawrence. It's 1558 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people are just looking at his box 1559 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 1: at a good point, you know, Phil, Phil Wesley and 1560 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 1: our friend, his daughter Josie, wanted to let us know 1561 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,479 Speaker 1: that we're too hard on justin Fields. How about you 1562 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,200 Speaker 1: start picking on Trevor Lawrence every once in a while too, 1563 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,639 Speaker 1: And so this little segment I think was was for her. 1564 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,880 Speaker 1: She's she's a Fields fan and she's like, how come 1565 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence doesn't take any grief? Disagree with some of that. 1566 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,640 Speaker 1: I feel like Chicago we've definitely given their quarterbacks and 1567 01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,600 Speaker 1: pop the last few weeks there, and Lawrence we've been 1568 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,760 Speaker 1: kind of on top of following his arc, which has 1569 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,280 Speaker 1: been underwhelming to say the least. All right, and by 1570 01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,240 Speaker 1: the way I did, if you're a Broncos fan, you're 1571 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 1: looking for positive signs behind just the win. Russell Wilson 1572 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,439 Speaker 1: giving the interview after the game, saying Russell Wilson stuff, 1573 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,519 Speaker 1: and then kJ Handler comes and gives him a big 1574 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: bear hug from behind and tells him a beautiful throw baby. 1575 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, maybe maybe some of everyone's 1576 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 1: getting a little bit swept away about this guy being 1577 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 1: the most hated man in the universe. Yes, Mark Well, 1578 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 1: I would just say, like, I, having lived in I 1579 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 1: know a huge cross section of Broncos fans. They are 1580 01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 1: I rate with what's going on about that team. To 1581 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,120 Speaker 1: another point, another one of their players, I think it 1582 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 1: was Tyree Cleveland, UH tweeted out like we're all gonna 1583 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,840 Speaker 1: be doing knee highs on the flight home, and I 1584 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:13,639 Speaker 1: don't understate that underrated. Just like, at least they feel 1585 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 1: like the world's not on top of them right now 1586 01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,000 Speaker 1: and they're having fun with it. At least we being 1587 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 1: the football public, we're all out on Russell Wilson and 1588 01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,120 Speaker 1: he's certainly played very poorly this year, but maybe it's 1589 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 1: not total anarchy inside the locker room. That was just 1590 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:34,640 Speaker 1: Maybelle very exciting, A little peek behind I missed. I 1591 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,160 Speaker 1: really wanted Nathaniel Hackett to be a great part of 1592 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 1: this season, and it got about as dark as possible 1593 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. Yeah, he's in a lot of trouble. Still, 1594 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 1: Let's move on, Uh to Indianapolis, where the commanders were 1595 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,559 Speaker 1: looking to get back to in motion camp sims Honey 1596 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,600 Speaker 1: keeps it goes for the end zone. What's the call? Touchdown? Touchdown, 1597 01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 1: touch down, Washington one yard rock body hide key say 1598 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,160 Speaker 1: that's you know team down in Miami. Listen to that call. 1599 01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:11,920 Speaker 1: They're they're talking about Commander's football Bram Weinstein with a 1600 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:19,760 Speaker 1: called w B I G. Taylor Heineke. That guy's got grit. 1601 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's gonna be on the phone looking to trade 1602 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 1: the world for Taylor Heineke after he goes in from 1603 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 1: one yard out after connecting with the ever underrated Terry 1604 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,560 Speaker 1: McLaurin on a deep strike to put them at the 1605 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,600 Speaker 1: doorstep of the game winning touchdown, which they got seventeen 1606 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,679 Speaker 1: sixteen over the cults were dying. Has a huge game 1607 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,320 Speaker 1: for the Colts to win that game, but they can't 1608 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,760 Speaker 1: find a way to do it. In the first start 1609 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 1: for Sam Ellinger marking, anybody hear that he hit you 1610 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,640 Speaker 1: hit the delk. I didn't hear anything. I don't know 1611 01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,840 Speaker 1: what I'm even talking about. I'm for once not going 1612 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,360 Speaker 1: to get involved. Does that We're we're in the flow 1613 01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 1: of the show, justin we're having conversation. We're trying to 1614 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,880 Speaker 1: bring this thing in for a landing. And you you don't, 1615 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 1: you didn't get in my ear. You came over into 1616 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:17,640 Speaker 1: the broadcast. Correct. I think that's a look at me 1617 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,400 Speaker 1: moment from our from our producer, which is becoming more frequent. 1618 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 1: A little trouble. Anyway, Let's talk the game. Thank you 1619 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:28,400 Speaker 1: justin for the correction. Okay, Now he's dying inside even 1620 01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 1: more than you're fired. All right, go ahead, Mark? Oh boy, um, 1621 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean McClaren had an incredible forty two yard catch 1622 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 1: and running this game before that. He's one of your guys, right, Yeah, 1623 01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean, who's really a West Guys star? You could 1624 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 1: have star guys. I mean Gino is a star. He's 1625 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 1: my guy, I mean Greg, But your thing is like, 1626 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,599 Speaker 1: I'll have eighty two people I'm friends with the watch people. 1627 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,880 Speaker 1: Take Greger of the guys, and it's just become a 1628 01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 1: tired trope at this point. Oh yeah, Greg likes players. Yeah, 1629 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 1: what a terrible thing. I'm loyal to football. Graver's back 1630 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:11,759 Speaker 1: to something, at least ripping the ball away from Stephan 1631 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 1: Gilmore on that that final catch too little, saying at 1632 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,679 Speaker 1: the end, wait, what am I not loyal to? Where 1633 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,719 Speaker 1: do you imagine, like the eighty two bits, there's eighty 1634 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,640 Speaker 1: two bits a show where it tells me what's going 1635 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,679 Speaker 1: on with the show. So enjoy yourself. This is your fault, 1636 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,040 Speaker 1: justin we were professionally bringing the show in for landing. 1637 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,439 Speaker 1: You guys want us to like, its gonna get the 1638 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 1: game of the year. We're gonna give it fifteen minutes. 1639 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,840 Speaker 1: You guys are gonna like it. All right, Mark, let's 1640 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 1: try this again. Did you begin the point? I couldn't remember. 1641 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: I just think Terry McLarin is like the actual beating 1642 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,800 Speaker 1: heart of this team. But Taylor Heineke to me where 1643 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 1: I think it was like when he when he was 1644 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 1: announced he's going to come in for rip for wins, 1645 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,600 Speaker 1: or even before when it was suggested they could come 1646 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 1: in and replace Wentz at some point if you kept 1647 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 1: getting these Wenzian games, and it's like he just brings 1648 01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,920 Speaker 1: something kind of the classic quarterback energy thing where he's 1649 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 1: gonna do a couple of wild things. He had a 1650 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 1: terrible interception by Shack Leonard, he was he was really lucky, 1651 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 1: and another third and one he again get didn't get picked. 1652 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,200 Speaker 1: But then he goes and does this and creates the win, 1653 01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 1: and they're kind of alive in the terrible NFC because 1654 01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,400 Speaker 1: of him and McLaurin together and a defense that did 1655 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:22,000 Speaker 1: their best with Sam Ellinger. Ellinger to me, I'll wait 1656 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,000 Speaker 1: another couple of weeks. Um, I do see a couple 1657 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 1: of things he made. He made a couple of big 1658 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,759 Speaker 1: throws in this he can run. What's funny now realized 1659 01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,759 Speaker 1: we're on camera and I just picked up my backpack 1660 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,920 Speaker 1: and was going through it looking for a power chord. 1661 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with okay, I can never 1662 01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 1: tell in the show. I don't have nothing. Give me 1663 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback on the Commanders that throws the Terry McLaren. 1664 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:49,720 Speaker 1: Who is that is Taylor Heinege. That's the guy who 1665 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 1: should be playing for the team right that that route 1666 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,040 Speaker 1: that mclauren ron ran to set up the game winner 1667 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 1: where he I don't know if I've ever seen one 1668 01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 1: quite like it, but he absolutely turns Stefan gil More 1669 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,640 Speaker 1: around and and eight his lunch. But this was a 1670 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,880 Speaker 1: gag job of the highest order from the Colts. This 1671 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 1: is a brutal loss. They were had sixteen to seven, 1672 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 1: a two score lead against Heineke, who at that point 1673 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,160 Speaker 1: had had a touchdown all day. Uh. In the fourth 1674 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,479 Speaker 1: quarter they get the ball back two different times, they 1675 01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 1: go three and out, and then then the end of 1676 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,519 Speaker 1: the game, reich Uh chose to kick a field goal 1677 01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 1: on fourth and three at the one chose to kick 1678 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,600 Speaker 1: a field goal on fourth and two, but they were 1679 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,360 Speaker 1: fourth and two on the wall line on the Washington too. 1680 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,320 Speaker 1: From that drove me nuts. And then he also punted, 1681 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,040 Speaker 1: and I know it would have been it would have 1682 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,680 Speaker 1: been bold to do it, but it was fourth and 1683 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 1: inches on their own thirty five to win the game, 1684 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,760 Speaker 1: up six, and he decided to punt it away and 1685 01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,880 Speaker 1: the defense couldn't hold it. So this is a full team, 1686 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:55,400 Speaker 1: Like I do you think some of that, like I 1687 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,800 Speaker 1: was way too conservative. There's no excuse for it, and 1688 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,760 Speaker 1: it stands out in a season where we're in where 1689 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,680 Speaker 1: everyone's going forward all the time and you should be. 1690 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 1: It just simply makes more sense. But I think part 1691 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 1: of it is like the fact that Ellenor was at 1692 01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,960 Speaker 1: your Taylor is you're running back. Yeah, but Taylor looked 1693 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 1: all right in this. He had his ankle retaped in 1694 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the game. I mean it just I 1695 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,680 Speaker 1: think their offense is just simply limited in general, I 1696 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:19,760 Speaker 1: think I want to see more from ellenor I just 1697 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,599 Speaker 1: don't really buy the fact that they really see him 1698 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 1: as a potential future and quarterbacks. I'm not really basing 1699 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 1: them off of this. I just I think we talked 1700 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 1: about when they made the announcement why they might have 1701 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,360 Speaker 1: done it. Um, he can move, he can run. He 1702 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,720 Speaker 1: made a couple of big throws in this He's there's 1703 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of chemistry with his wide receivers. He 1704 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 1: also had a terrible fumble where it's a Jonathan Allen 1705 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,360 Speaker 1: sack in the end, but he walked into he lost 1706 01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 1: the ball before even walking into pressure, and it was 1707 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 1: just like a classic. It's your first NFL game, you know. 1708 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 1: But they're gonna hand games away now when they had 1709 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,680 Speaker 1: a chance to get back into in the ANFC, not 1710 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna get it done. I can't believe these two teams 1711 01:27:56,120 --> 01:28:00,280 Speaker 1: have combined for a seven seven and one recD No. 1712 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,040 Speaker 1: Seven eight and one record. They are kind of the 1713 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,240 Speaker 1: the example of where the middle of the NFL is 1714 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 1: right now. I can't believe the Commandos are four and 1715 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:12,879 Speaker 1: four on this three game. All three have been absolutely crazy. 1716 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 1: The Packers one like they earned it somewhat, but they 1717 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 1: kind of stole all three. It's amazing the Commander and 1718 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,599 Speaker 1: how about this. The NFC East has been a bit 1719 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 1: of a punching bag on this show over the years, 1720 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,360 Speaker 1: and deservedly so. Bec it was bad for many years 1721 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,599 Speaker 1: in the last ten. But you have the Eagles at 1722 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,679 Speaker 1: seven and oh, the Cowboys six and two, the Giant 1723 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,920 Speaker 1: six and two, and the Commanders now rounded out the 1724 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 1: group at four and four. I mean, they are literally 1725 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,360 Speaker 1: on paste to be one of the greatest divisions of 1726 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,880 Speaker 1: all time. If if that paste out, that would pretty 1727 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,840 Speaker 1: much do it in terms of you almost have to 1728 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,640 Speaker 1: win every out of division game to get records like that. 1729 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,360 Speaker 1: Can I want to make one thing clear, I'm not 1730 01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:49,720 Speaker 1: buying in on Taylor Heineke. I think he's We've learned 1731 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 1: now that there is a there is a ceiling here 1732 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,479 Speaker 1: and uh it is what it is. And seeing Carson 1733 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: Wentz again, that would make sense. At some point you 1734 01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,680 Speaker 1: did give up of significant amoun out of assets to 1735 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,840 Speaker 1: acquire him, but ride the hot hand while it's here. 1736 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,920 Speaker 1: I see. Yeah. I like at this point there's no 1737 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,680 Speaker 1: compelling reason to put wins back in there. Can you 1738 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,760 Speaker 1: guys just grade this tweet from Adam Schefter or this 1739 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,559 Speaker 1: move from tit Taylor Heineke, like on a one to ten, 1740 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,559 Speaker 1: What do you guys think For every game that Taylor 1741 01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,760 Speaker 1: Heineke plays, at least the Snaps and the Commander's win, 1742 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 1: he earns a one hundred and twenty five thousand dollar 1743 01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,519 Speaker 1: incentives basically every start d dollars extra. He puts that 1744 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,639 Speaker 1: bonus to a new pair of Jordan's in the colors 1745 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:34,559 Speaker 1: of the team that Washington beat this week, new blue 1746 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:38,960 Speaker 1: and white Jordan's. I mean, it's just information that might 1747 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 1: have knocked out a priceless childhood memory out of my brain, 1748 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,800 Speaker 1: and now I have that in my head. Unnecessary, did 1749 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:52,519 Speaker 1: not need to needy years they've been on fire, and 1750 01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,360 Speaker 1: that's it. I wish I didn't know that. That's I 1751 01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,040 Speaker 1: feel strangely, I feel strongly how angry I am that 1752 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,880 Speaker 1: that's now in my brain. See another sneaker same, I mean, 1753 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,160 Speaker 1: that was why I brought it up. Another white brow 1754 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:10,400 Speaker 1: with money into sneakers. Great, Me and all my friends 1755 01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:15,240 Speaker 1: are jerks. Greg has so many sneakers. It's not alone, 1756 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,160 Speaker 1: there's a two, but it's mine. Aren't like fancy sneakers 1757 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:23,080 Speaker 1: archetype of clothing horse all right, which takes us down 1758 01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:27,960 Speaker 1: the yellow brick Road to Buffalo and Sunday Night Football 1759 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,640 Speaker 1: from the one again second a goal, Allen's gonna keep it, 1760 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,479 Speaker 1: and he's got Dawson Knocks, but he can run it. 1761 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,960 Speaker 1: That will throw it, and it's Knocks and it's a 1762 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:45,599 Speaker 1: Buffalo touchdown. Mike Terico with the call for NBC Josh 1763 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,600 Speaker 1: Allen two touchdown passes, including that score to tight end 1764 01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 1: Dawson Knox as the Bills jump out head early on. 1765 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:57,839 Speaker 1: The Packers, as expected and as expected, coast to victory. 1766 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:03,479 Speaker 1: Final score to seventeen. The Bills now six and one, 1767 01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:09,679 Speaker 1: undefeated in Orchard Park in three games. The Packers fall 1768 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,320 Speaker 1: to three and five. Greggy, Um, you know, Green Bay 1769 01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 1: didn't get rolled over here. I think a lot of 1770 01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 1: expect people probably expected this game to get uh ugly 1771 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,840 Speaker 1: and be maybe some type of statement on both the 1772 01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,719 Speaker 1: Bill's dominance and how lost the Packers were. We didn't 1773 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,759 Speaker 1: quite get that, but also not a very surprising outcome 1774 01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,120 Speaker 1: to me. No, what we gotta feel of how inferior 1775 01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:37,200 Speaker 1: the Packers are in that When Matt Lafleur comes out 1776 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,519 Speaker 1: after halftime, he talks about how he wants to see 1777 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,439 Speaker 1: a good effort and and play some feisty football in 1778 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: the second half, and you know they did, and Chris 1779 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 1: Collinsworth is giving him kind of like moral victories, like, yeah, 1780 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,760 Speaker 1: they did play pretty feisty. Uh, they only gave up 1781 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,760 Speaker 1: three points in the second half. Josh Allen threw a 1782 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,600 Speaker 1: couple of weird picks, but it was never competitive. This 1783 01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,519 Speaker 1: was the same Packers team that ran on third and 1784 01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,479 Speaker 1: sixteen late in the half rather than passing. That was like, hey, 1785 01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 1: is that really the Packers? And by the way, it 1786 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,400 Speaker 1: didn't stop the Bills from still going down and scoring anyways, 1787 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 1: they were trying to get the Bills to burn timeouts. 1788 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,519 Speaker 1: It's the same Packers team who started really running the 1789 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,439 Speaker 1: ball and committing to it down three scores in the 1790 01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 1: second half because that's the only way they could score. 1791 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 1: And even then they're they're kicking field goals. So yes, 1792 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,760 Speaker 1: there were some positives and dobs how to play and 1793 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:25,760 Speaker 1: Terray had to play, but it was like they went 1794 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,360 Speaker 1: into this game newing they were vastly inferior, especially because 1795 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,479 Speaker 1: of their defense, And I left this game still feeling 1796 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,600 Speaker 1: like they're vastly inferior, especially because of their define with you, 1797 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:38,519 Speaker 1: and I didn't I like the idea of them committing 1798 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:42,080 Speaker 1: to the ground because of the problems they've had all 1799 01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,800 Speaker 1: season long, they could have maybe tried this weeks ago. 1800 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,160 Speaker 1: I also looked at the second half and didn't think 1801 01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,760 Speaker 1: that they really thought they could win this game. I 1802 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,559 Speaker 1: don't think it was managed in that way. I mean, 1803 01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,880 Speaker 1: it's just it was such a commitment to the ground 1804 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,400 Speaker 1: game when you're down by a ton, and it was 1805 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,720 Speaker 1: working to some degree, but it really didn't work at 1806 01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,200 Speaker 1: all in the end if you think about it, mean 1807 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,160 Speaker 1: a little malarkey, a little shenanigans from Josh Allen, who 1808 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,479 Speaker 1: Meana Kimes joked went to hollow out to Halloween is 1809 01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:09,799 Speaker 1: theen Josh Allen in the second half there. But the Bills, 1810 01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean kind of coasted in the second half. I 1811 01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,120 Speaker 1: thought in this, I think, yeah, it's a testament to 1812 01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,720 Speaker 1: their might that they didn't bring their a game and 1813 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,400 Speaker 1: still took care of the Aaron Rodgers team. And yeah, 1814 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,160 Speaker 1: there is uh the Packers go over thirty attempts on 1815 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,559 Speaker 1: the ground, they go over two yards on the ground, 1816 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,880 Speaker 1: So you could look at that as a positive if 1817 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,559 Speaker 1: you're a Packers fan. In terms of okay, we can 1818 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 1: still do that. Um and Rogers made a couple throws 1819 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 1: and maybe Torre becomes somebody they can be interested in 1820 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,000 Speaker 1: as uh having a bigger role in the offense after 1821 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,760 Speaker 1: that long score. Maybe maybe not. It is interesting to me, 1822 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:46,719 Speaker 1: and Collinsworth brought it up, and I've been thinking about 1823 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,120 Speaker 1: this all season. On a day where you know, Davante 1824 01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:54,120 Speaker 1: Adams had one catch for three yards in a shutout 1825 01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:58,880 Speaker 1: loss UM in New Orleans with the Raiders. Once again, 1826 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:00,640 Speaker 1: there were times in the game or it was like, 1827 01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,160 Speaker 1: all right, the running games cooking for Green Bay. Now 1828 01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 1: this is where you hit him with a Davante Adams 1829 01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,880 Speaker 1: slash play for forty up the seam, and like you 1830 01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,439 Speaker 1: don't have that and the Packers are missing it, and 1831 01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,080 Speaker 1: it's just greg for me, Like big picture with the Packers, 1832 01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 1: it still strikes me so odd that they let it 1833 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,679 Speaker 1: get to this point with an aging quarterback where they're 1834 01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:21,880 Speaker 1: scrambling to find a guy to fill that void when 1835 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,000 Speaker 1: they're the super Bowl window was ostensibly open. The past 1836 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,760 Speaker 1: is the past, but again it kind of reared its 1837 01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,639 Speaker 1: ugly head a little bit in the state there there 1838 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 1: there four games back in the lost column of the Vikings. 1839 01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's red alarm time because I think both 1840 01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,400 Speaker 1: sides of the ball you're concerned about. I keep going 1841 01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 1: back to the defense because I just haven't seen much 1842 01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,240 Speaker 1: fight out of them this year until the second half 1843 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,720 Speaker 1: of that game. But you think of the difference in 1844 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,640 Speaker 1: these defenses and the to start the game that the 1845 01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,599 Speaker 1: Packers knew they were in fury are coming into this game, 1846 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,040 Speaker 1: and they got a quick three and out and I 1847 01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,200 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, here we go. Then they come back 1848 01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:59,160 Speaker 1: the other way and Tim Settle gets a sack that 1849 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of ruined that drive for Green Bay, and Tim 1850 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,920 Speaker 1: Settle is like a free agent pickup. They're they're not 1851 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,760 Speaker 1: doing anything. Then they get back to a fourth and 1852 01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:11,559 Speaker 1: three after that sack and Ed Oliver pushes the pocket, 1853 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:15,360 Speaker 1: which makes Aaron Rodgers throwing in completion on fourth down. 1854 01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,519 Speaker 1: And it kind of explains so much about Bowl seasons 1855 01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,720 Speaker 1: because that Bill's defensive line has been awesome and they 1856 01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,840 Speaker 1: were great again in this game. And that's why they 1857 01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 1: didn't really do a dropback throwing. If you're getting as 1858 01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:28,240 Speaker 1: much pressure as them on defense without blitzing, like they 1859 01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,640 Speaker 1: don't even need trade Avious White back there. I mean 1860 01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,040 Speaker 1: I think if you look at the Packers too, they 1861 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,879 Speaker 1: were compromised when they lost Quay Walker to an injection, 1862 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,880 Speaker 1: deve Andre Campbell went out with a knee injury. I 1863 01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:38,800 Speaker 1: mean that they were talking about. They have two linebackers 1864 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,519 Speaker 1: coming in there that had played like combined six snaps 1865 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,760 Speaker 1: all season. The other injury I would look out is 1866 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Player, the safety for the Bills, went out with 1867 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,160 Speaker 1: an elbow injury, and I that's they don't need them. 1868 01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,800 Speaker 1: An hide out at the same time is troubling, and 1869 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,439 Speaker 1: I just I still love watching Josh All and I 1870 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:57,080 Speaker 1: know he threw those two picks, but he also had 1871 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:58,880 Speaker 1: three or four throws under pressure that I kind of 1872 01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,320 Speaker 1: don't carefully through those picks right out outrageous, and I 1873 01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 1: love that would matter if the Packers are a little 1874 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 1: more je I just for some reason, it didn't feel 1875 01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,840 Speaker 1: like they were really ever seriously challenged on any level 1876 01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,240 Speaker 1: in this game. But the fact when he got smacked 1877 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,360 Speaker 1: on the goal line by Adrian Amos early, when he 1878 01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,439 Speaker 1: made that twenty yard run on what was the third 1879 01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,280 Speaker 1: and twenty or something like that, which was one of 1880 01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,080 Speaker 1: the key players in the game, and then he gets 1881 01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,599 Speaker 1: up smiling like I'm the biggest badass in the world. 1882 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,559 Speaker 1: And then when Kenny Clark was three pounds, flattens him 1883 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,320 Speaker 1: in the second half a hip Alan probably shouldn't be taken, 1884 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,160 Speaker 1: and Alan gets up wanting to fight Kenny Clark. Kenny 1885 01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,479 Speaker 1: Clark didn't do anything but hit him, and I just like, 1886 01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,680 Speaker 1: it would be fun to have as your quarterback for 1887 01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,080 Speaker 1: the next ten years. But its fans, yeah, and it's 1888 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,080 Speaker 1: a great it's a great time to be a Bills fan. 1889 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,160 Speaker 1: They during the telecast, they showed the renderings for the 1890 01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,519 Speaker 1: new stadium that they hope will be built in a 1891 01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,800 Speaker 1: few years. And that's not a dome, by the way. 1892 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be much more. It's so much 1893 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,760 Speaker 1: easier experience for the people sitting in the seats. But 1894 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,240 Speaker 1: you don't dome. Sure, I'm with you on that, but 1895 01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,760 Speaker 1: you just want to make sure, like Josh Allen and 1896 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm knocking on wood, if I had some stays healthy 1897 01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,599 Speaker 1: and they get to January with a chance to really 1898 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,320 Speaker 1: because that's in what's been a strange, weird year, made 1899 01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 1: all the more strange by the destabilizing failures of the 1900 01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,840 Speaker 1: Packers and Bucks in the NFC. The Bills making a 1901 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,519 Speaker 1: deep run and perhaps even getting over the hump. That 1902 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,600 Speaker 1: would make this one of the more memorable seasons in 1903 01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 1: recent memory. I'd like to see it. If they get 1904 01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,679 Speaker 1: the running game going like they did in the first 1905 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:33,760 Speaker 1: half tonight, to like, they just feel unstoppable. They came 1906 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:38,160 Speaker 1: into the season as everyone's Super Bowl favorites, and they're 1907 01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,040 Speaker 1: they're like they're they're even better than I expected. And 1908 01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:43,880 Speaker 1: and if like like I said, if the running game, 1909 01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,400 Speaker 1: if they keep adding elements, it's like it's scary. With 1910 01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:50,479 Speaker 1: all due respect to the undefeated Philadelphia Eagles, the Bills 1911 01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,120 Speaker 1: are the best team in football. We saw it again tonight. 1912 01:37:54,000 --> 01:38:01,040 Speaker 1: Good stuff, gang, Greg Mark justin behind the Mark loved 1913 01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 1: this game. We were up there watching. He would have 1914 01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,599 Speaker 1: liked the score to be even more lopsided. But after 1915 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:10,439 Speaker 1: last week's Commando's game and him divorcing the Packers forever, uh, 1916 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,479 Speaker 1: they crossed the Mark. It's just his favorite team is 1917 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,560 Speaker 1: the team playing against the Packers. Are you saying commandos 1918 01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:21,880 Speaker 1: on purpose? You've done it twice tonight than you are 1919 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,720 Speaker 1: I not. I've heard other people calling them the Commandos, 1920 01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,000 Speaker 1: and now I think it unconsciously seeped into it. Also 1921 01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,880 Speaker 1: suggests that some of your anks that you put on 1922 01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:35,040 Speaker 1: me over various distant wagers um is a bit of 1923 01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 1: a projection on your ups and downs. But I do 1924 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,320 Speaker 1: think in this case it's apt because the packers annoyed me. 1925 01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,519 Speaker 1: Be on comprehension. Thank you, and uh, one last note, 1926 01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,120 Speaker 1: because I want to end things on a on a 1927 01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:48,759 Speaker 1: positive for the whole group. I have pulled some strings 1928 01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:53,599 Speaker 1: Mark in the your guy situation. Uh, great news. I've 1929 01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 1: expledited successfully the processing for you. It was at six 1930 01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,760 Speaker 1: to eight weeks. I got it down to two to 1931 01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,760 Speaker 1: four weeks. So we will will know in about a 1932 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,719 Speaker 1: month give or take, barring any other unforeseen delays, whether 1933 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:13,000 Speaker 1: it is processed. That player not recall Tyler Algier, he 1934 01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,120 Speaker 1: we were gonna be tracking his um upward battle to 1935 01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,479 Speaker 1: get over four yards per carry for the year. It's 1936 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:23,120 Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be good. Going for me is 1937 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:27,640 Speaker 1: my raging apathy on this front. There's a drop. You 1938 01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:29,479 Speaker 1: can't take that away from that. That would be if 1939 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:33,599 Speaker 1: if Mark had a band name, Raging would be wonderful. 1940 01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,080 Speaker 1: It's that's kind of like a one of those new 1941 01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,560 Speaker 1: metal bands. Like the poster would be hanging in a 1942 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:42,559 Speaker 1: J Soprano's room in two thousand, raging apathy. All right, 1943 01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,800 Speaker 1: that's it. There you go. You know, Justin's in a 1944 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,479 Speaker 1: little like funk when when to hit the music, the 1945 01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,200 Speaker 1: playoff you're trying to lay out, and he's still just 1946 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,160 Speaker 1: a little bit off, but otherwise an excellent producer. Thank you, 1947 01:39:55,560 --> 01:40:01,160 Speaker 1: it's a grave digger and everybody for following along. Yes, 1948 01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,040 Speaker 1: tom to night he'd the call who