WEBVTT - Andrew on Authoritarian Leaders

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<v Speaker 1>A zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Media. Welcome to it could happen here. I'm Andrew Sage

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<v Speaker 2>of YouTube channel Andrewism. Once again. I'm joined by.

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<v Speaker 3>Jane and We're back in and I'm excited to learn

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<v Speaker 3>more about authoritarian leaders this time right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, last time, we discussed the mind of the authoritarian follower.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to the research of the lead Bob Altmeyer. You

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<v Speaker 2>should definitely listen to the previous episode, but in summary,

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<v Speaker 2>we looked at this concept of right wing authoritarianism, which

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<v Speaker 2>refers to a personality type that features three primary traits

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<v Speaker 2>or attitudes. First is a high degree of submission to

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<v Speaker 2>authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in

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<v Speaker 2>the society is in which one lives. The second is

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<v Speaker 2>a general aggressiveness directed against various persons it is perceived

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<v Speaker 2>to be sanctioned by established authorities. And the third is

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<v Speaker 2>a high degree of adherence to the social convents that

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<v Speaker 2>are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities.

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<v Speaker 2>We also speculated the roots of authoritary and aggression and

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the mind of the authoritarian follower, which demonstrates

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<v Speaker 2>straits such as illogical thinking, highly compartmentalized minds, double standards,

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<v Speaker 2>hypocrisy and lack of self awareness, ethno centrism, and dogmatism. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>as promised, we're looking at the other side of the coin.

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<v Speaker 2>We're looking at the leaders, but also what we can

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<v Speaker 2>do to address both followers and leaders. So let's begin.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety four, social psychologists Fleescha Pratu and Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Sedanias presented the social Dominance Orientation test as a measure

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<v Speaker 2>of belief in social inequality. Social dominators agreed with statements

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<v Speaker 2>like quote, this country would be better off if we

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<v Speaker 2>cared less about how equal all people are and quote

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<v Speaker 2>some people just more worthy than others, while disagreeing with

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<v Speaker 2>statements like god, if people were treated more equally, we

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<v Speaker 2>would have fewer problems in this country. Fellow social psychologist

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<v Speaker 2>Sam MacFarland took their test on twenty one others, including

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<v Speaker 2>the Art of Way scale, to determine which will be

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<v Speaker 2>the best predictor of prejudice. His research found that only

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<v Speaker 2>two of those tests, the Social dominant Orientation and the

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<v Speaker 2>Art of Way, could do the job well. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, though, while both tests were able to identify

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<v Speaker 2>prejudiced people, they were identifying different types of prejudice people

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<v Speaker 2>with very little overlap. Social dominators and high art of

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<v Speaker 2>ways authoritarians of two flavors. They have some things in common, though,

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<v Speaker 2>besides prejudice. They tend to support the same political parties.

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<v Speaker 2>They tend to have shared economic philosophies, usually conservative on

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<v Speaker 2>both counts, but they also have some huge differences. Starting

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<v Speaker 2>with a desire for power also why, I conducted two

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<v Speaker 2>surveys with students that included the question how much power,

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<v Speaker 2>as in the ability to make adults do what you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to have when you're forty years old?

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<v Speaker 2>In this sense, automayer is using power in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>of authority as I would define it, the recognized right

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<v Speaker 2>above others in a social relationship to give commands, make decisions,

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<v Speaker 2>and enforce obedience. So the scale went from zero meaning

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<v Speaker 2>they don't care for it, to five me and their

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<v Speaker 2>goal is to have a great deal of authority. Social

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<v Speaker 2>dominators consistently wanted to have much more power than most

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<v Speaker 2>people did AUTHORITAI and followers did not. Now, obviously, people

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<v Speaker 2>often want authority for different reasons, some more self righteous

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<v Speaker 2>than others, but social dominators take thrill in authority in

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<v Speaker 2>and of itself, doesn't matter what the cause is as

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<v Speaker 2>long as they can control others in the process. There's

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<v Speaker 2>another scale Altmayer users, the power Mad scale. On it,

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<v Speaker 2>social dominators agree with statements like it's a mistake to

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<v Speaker 2>interfere with the law of the jungle, some people were

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<v Speaker 2>meant to dominate others, and do you enjoy taking charge

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<v Speaker 2>of things and making people do things your way? They

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<v Speaker 2>also dissecure with statements like life is not governed by

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<v Speaker 2>the survival of the fittest and we should let compassion

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<v Speaker 2>and moral laws be your guide. Social dominators are some

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<v Speaker 2>of the highest scores on this scale, and high scorers

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<v Speaker 2>tend to be intimidating, ruthless, and vengeful, with no care

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<v Speaker 2>for nobility or charity. They despise empathy and have a

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<v Speaker 2>dog eat dog mentality toward the world. They love the

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<v Speaker 2>power to hurt in their drive to the top. High

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<v Speaker 2>or degrees just stn't have that drive. And while authoritarian

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<v Speaker 2>followers might highly value group cohesiveness and loyalty, social dominators

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<v Speaker 2>don't because, like I keep saying, they're in it for

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<v Speaker 2>themselves for their power, and they will be trade their

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<v Speaker 2>own group if push comes to shove. Another area where

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<v Speaker 2>social dominators and hired W is diverge. It's when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to religiousness. Authoritarian followers are usually religious fundamentalists, while

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<v Speaker 2>dominators don't tend to be that involved. Some of them

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<v Speaker 2>do go to church regularly, but that's for manipulative reasons

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<v Speaker 2>because social dominators could lie. They lie a lot. All

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<v Speaker 2>they have to do is pretend to be religious and

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<v Speaker 2>say the right words and boom to get through. The

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<v Speaker 2>hirer was reminds me of a sitting politician.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to say this is put in the

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<v Speaker 3>mind of like Donald Trump, tay getting a massive crowd

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<v Speaker 3>of people so he can walk to a church and

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<v Speaker 3>then take photos outside and not go in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good times. There's another scale we could take a

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<v Speaker 2>look at, and that's the exploitative, manipulative, immoral dishonesty, or

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<v Speaker 2>exploitative mad scale. Unlike hirer ws, social dominators anonymous responses

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<v Speaker 2>indicate that they agree with statements like there's really no

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<v Speaker 2>such thing as right and wrong. It all boils down

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<v Speaker 2>to what you can get away with, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>sucker bone every minute, and smart people learn how to

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of them. Social dominators disagree with statements like

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<v Speaker 2>it gains a person nothing if he uses deceit and

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<v Speaker 2>treachery to get power and riches and all in all,

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<v Speaker 2>it is better to be humble and honest than important

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<v Speaker 2>and dishonest. In essence, social dominators admit to strive and

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<v Speaker 2>to manipulate, to be in dishonest, to be an immoral

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<v Speaker 2>and treacherous. They see their followers as suckers, fools to

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<v Speaker 2>be controlled. What else makes them different? Well, I could

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the roots of hostility. Social dominators actually

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<v Speaker 2>show greater prejudice against minorities and women than higher ws do,

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<v Speaker 2>but their followers are much more hostile towards LGBTQ people.

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<v Speaker 2>Why Well, it ties back to the religiousness and the

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<v Speaker 2>hired WA respect for the law. Since attacks against minorities

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<v Speaker 2>are less clearly supported by religious and civic authorities as

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<v Speaker 2>they used to be, authoritarian follower aggression towards these groups,

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<v Speaker 2>both overt or sneaky, had to be curved a little bit. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>social dominators are hostile because they already live in the

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<v Speaker 2>apocalyptic jungle that hired w is fair, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>the apex predator. They don't score highly in the Dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>World scale because they're not scared. They're the ones ready

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<v Speaker 2>to weaponize that fear. Dominance is their first priority. For

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<v Speaker 2>everyone they meet, they had a reason to not try

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<v Speaker 2>to control them. They don't care too much about the

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<v Speaker 2>law either. It's just about not getting caught. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>as self righteous as hirer w is because they're quite immoral,

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<v Speaker 2>and hired ws aggressed when they believe right and might

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<v Speaker 2>on their side. Social dominators aggress because might makes right

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<v Speaker 2>for them personally. Hired w is heat caremount of fair

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<v Speaker 2>and self righteousness in the name of authority. Social dominators

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<v Speaker 2>hate crime out or share desire to intimidate and control. Lastly,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to look at the differences in their thought process.

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<v Speaker 2>Social dominators, for the most part, don't have a web

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<v Speaker 2>of contradictions, weak reason and skills, compartmentalized thinking, or gullibility

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<v Speaker 2>that define higher WA's mental life. They're not particularly dogmatic

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<v Speaker 2>or zealous about any particular cause or creed. They just

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<v Speaker 2>want authority. They say whatever they need to say to

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<v Speaker 2>get ahead because they have no consistent values. They'll be

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<v Speaker 2>hypocrites like hawd was, but they're probably aware of and

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<v Speaker 2>find their own hypocrisy. For example, they're cool with wealth,

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<v Speaker 2>inheritance and corruption. They're opposed to welfare. They're unconcerned with

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<v Speaker 2>income inequality or photo disenfranchisement. They're apathetic to racial inequality

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<v Speaker 2>and injustice. They believe that people should have to earn

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<v Speaker 2>their place in society and they don't care if most

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<v Speaker 2>of them can't. They still talk about how the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to have a level play and field is to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of things like affilmed to faction. And part

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<v Speaker 2>of what defines social dominators is their utter disregard for equality.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have to ask again, what causes this? Why

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<v Speaker 2>are they like this? And well, social scientists just are shure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet if we look at the life shape and experiences

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<v Speaker 2>or social dominators, they would probably report the deceit and

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<v Speaker 2>cheating with good tactics because it led to what they wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking advantage of suckers felt great. They enjoyed having power

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<v Speaker 2>and having people afraid of them. Life boiled down to

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<v Speaker 2>what you could get away with, and of course the

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<v Speaker 2>experiences led them to believe that life is a jungle.

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<v Speaker 2>Dominators were probably rewarded early in their lives when they cheated,

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<v Speaker 2>took advantage of people, weaponized fear, overpowered others, or got

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<v Speaker 2>away with something wrong, whether or not their peer and

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<v Speaker 2>scare them that outlook on the world. Because of the

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<v Speaker 2>psychological law of effect, they simply learn into the being amoral, unsympathetic,

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<v Speaker 2>and exploitative worked well for them. So what happens when

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<v Speaker 2>higher WA's and social dominators work together. In this field

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<v Speaker 2>of research, the lethal union refers to the combination of

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<v Speaker 2>happily subservient hired ws with social dominators who share their

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<v Speaker 2>values in the driver's seat, eager to dominate and control,

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<v Speaker 2>a death spiral union that develops all the time in

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<v Speaker 2>the real world. As Altemaya aptly described quote true, sufficiently

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<v Speaker 2>skilled social dominators served by dedicated followers can make the

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<v Speaker 2>trains run in time, but you have to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>what the trains may be haulin when dominators call the

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<v Speaker 2>shots and the hired was to the shooting end quote.

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<v Speaker 2>While most social dominators get fairly low scores on RWA

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<v Speaker 2>tests and vice versa are very very small, more percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of people and ultimized samples scored highly on both r

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<v Speaker 2>WAY and social dominance tests. These other double highs. If

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<v Speaker 2>prejudice was a sports in the Olympics, hird WA's we

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<v Speaker 2>get bronze, social dominators we get silver. And double Highs

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<v Speaker 2>would definitely get gold. Now you might be wondering, how

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<v Speaker 2>do they manage to score so highly on both tests?

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<v Speaker 2>If social dominators and high ways have so many differences,

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<v Speaker 2>how can somebody be a submissive dominator? So there are

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of reasons why want to be dictator would

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<v Speaker 2>score highly on both tests. One is because some r

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<v Speaker 2>WA scale statements are open to interpretation. Take the statement

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<v Speaker 2>code our country desperately needs a mighty leader who will

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<v Speaker 2>do what has to be done to destroy the radical

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<v Speaker 2>new ways and sinfulness that are ruining us. End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>A follow it will be like yes, please, and a

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<v Speaker 2>dominator will be like here I am behold, I'm your leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Double high still score highly on all the power scales,

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<v Speaker 2>like other social dominators and unlike other hard ways. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>double Highs are the religious among the social dominators, so

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<v Speaker 2>they respond to this religious items on the r W

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<v Speaker 2>scale that other social dominators don't, thereby significantly raising their

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<v Speaker 2>r W score. I don't think I need to go

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<v Speaker 2>into too much detail. I feel like I should be

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely clear the double Highs suck. Whatever the su they

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<v Speaker 2>probably are on the wrong side of it. The worst

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<v Speaker 2>of the worst prejudiced, power hungry, exploititive, mad, religiously fundamentalist, dogmatic,

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous worldest a noxious stew of the worst of all

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<v Speaker 2>social dominators and hard was Regular social dominators might end

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<v Speaker 2>up in charge of ptas, hoas, workplaces, local governments, and

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<v Speaker 2>other personal kingdoms. Not all of them succeed in life

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<v Speaker 2>due to the animosity they create, the obstacles they might face,

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<v Speaker 2>lack of intelligence, attractiveness, or network to gain the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of power they want, and some of them might even

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<v Speaker 2>get caught in their lives and illegalities and don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the capital to get out of it. They see double highs,

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<v Speaker 2>they tend to have a head start well. Regular social

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<v Speaker 2>dominators have to fake their religiousness to get the support

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<v Speaker 2>of higher ws. Double highs can more easily get started

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<v Speaker 2>in their own churches, already part of the in group,

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<v Speaker 2>sharing their prejudices, economic philosophies, and political lean needs. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if they are faking it a little bit, a double

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<v Speaker 2>high already knows all the code words, dog whistles and

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<v Speaker 2>Bible verses they need to get ahead. They know what

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<v Speaker 2>stands they should hold about evolution, the role of women, abortion, school, prayer, censorship,

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<v Speaker 2>law and order, et cetera, et cetera. Double highs run

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<v Speaker 2>the show you dig? Yeah for sure? So now what?

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<v Speaker 2>Knowing that social dominators do whatever they can to hold

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<v Speaker 2>on to power and higher ws are extremely resistant to change,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we deal with a situation where social change

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<v Speaker 2>requires dealing with these people? I mean, they can't debate them.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you were to intellectually wrestle with a double

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<v Speaker 2>high leader and utterly destroy them with facts and logic,

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<v Speaker 2>their higher WA audience is not likely to change their minds.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to change highly dogmatic, evidence immune ethnocentric people is

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<v Speaker 2>an exercise in frustration and futility. It's also hard to

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<v Speaker 2>fight to share fair mongrant power of the likes of

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<v Speaker 2>Fox News and Facebook to combat the class and religious

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<v Speaker 2>roots of ethnocentrism and to reduce the self righteousness of

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<v Speaker 2>their followers. It's even harder to convince them that they

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<v Speaker 2>are being systematically misinformed and played for fools by their leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if they listen to these episodes, or watch my

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<v Speaker 2>videos or read ultimized books, they would either get defensive

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<v Speaker 2>or honestly, because a lot of them aren't self aware,

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<v Speaker 2>assume that this is about someone else finding a way

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<v Speaker 2>to compartmentalize, misinterpret, rationalize, and dogmatically deny anything I've said

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<v Speaker 2>so far. So what to do? First and foremost, representation matters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important that hire ws see more of the breath

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<v Speaker 2>and diversity of human existence and experience. The reality is skewed,

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<v Speaker 2>and the visibility and representation of people from other backgrounds,

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<v Speaker 2>not just the media, but also in their personal lives

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<v Speaker 2>is very important. One thing studies have shown is that

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<v Speaker 2>higher ws who know a Cay person are far less

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<v Speaker 2>likely to be homophobic than their fellow higher ws. And

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<v Speaker 2>the best exposures different types of people is through access

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<v Speaker 2>to higher education, or more broadly, just any space with diversity.

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<v Speaker 2>College may not necessarily turn them into commit to the revolutionaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Contrary it's popular belief, but the environment of higher education

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<v Speaker 2>has a tremendously beneficial impact on higher ws. Four years

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<v Speaker 2>of undergrad experience can knock their scores down by fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty percent. Academic spaces need to be alive, vibrant,

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<v Speaker 2>and most of all accessible, and we need people in

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<v Speaker 2>academic and non academic spaces to embrace the power of influence.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean this in a give them an authority

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<v Speaker 2>and to follow kind of way. I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>becoming a club president or ordering people around. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about hierarchical leadership, but rather the natural influence of

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<v Speaker 2>individuals who model exemplary behavior and provide an example for

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<v Speaker 2>others to look to, people who freely lend their talents

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<v Speaker 2>and knowledge and mentorship to others. In a conformity experiment

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<v Speaker 2>in however, in the late nineteen forties, real subjects were

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded by actors who deliberately gave obviously wrong answers to questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually the sub went along with the wrong majority at

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<v Speaker 2>least some of the time. But if in another condition

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<v Speaker 2>of the experiment, one other person gave the right answer,

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<v Speaker 2>real subjects were much more likely to do the right thing,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it meant joining a distinct minority rather than

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<v Speaker 2>the majority. So I'm saying that as the people who

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<v Speaker 2>hold radical beliefs, it's important to stand up. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to form majority to have an effect.

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<v Speaker 2>Two or three people speaking out can sometimes change the

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<v Speaker 2>decisions of entire school boards, church boards, or other institutions. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>reform is not going to be enough, but we do

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<v Speaker 2>need to present some opposition on that front, and that sphere.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, lack of opposition teaches dominators to keep dominating,

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<v Speaker 2>and it only taaks one person to start the opposition

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<v Speaker 2>the domino effects that could potentially influence even higher ws

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<v Speaker 2>because at the end of the day, it's clear that

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<v Speaker 2>they want to be quote unquote normal in their bubbles

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<v Speaker 2>and their echo chambers. They don't really realize how extreme

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<v Speaker 2>they are. Then, to be exposed to the perspectives and

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<v Speaker 2>experiences of people outside their tight circles, Mutual aid and

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<v Speaker 2>other organized efforts can show them the humanity of other people,

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<v Speaker 2>finding common ground and common cause. But ultimately, in my view,

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<v Speaker 2>the best long term solutions require youth liberation and prefiguration.

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<v Speaker 2>We need youth liberation both at home and at school

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<v Speaker 2>and everywhere else. As long as we continue to reinforce

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<v Speaker 2>the notion that children need to blindly submit to authorities,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as we refuse to grant them humanity and autonomy,

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<v Speaker 2>we will continue to be without humanity and autonomy. We

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<v Speaker 2>will continue to have adult generation after generation who do

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<v Speaker 2>not know how to resist authority. We must prefigure those

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<v Speaker 2>relationships in our personal lives and our social spaces, or

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<v Speaker 2>we must prefigure our liberation. It's not enough to just

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<v Speaker 2>pain against social dominators. We have to dismantle the systems

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<v Speaker 2>that allow them to dominate in the foost place. The

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<v Speaker 2>only way to keep social dominators from season power is

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<v Speaker 2>to prefigure a system where no one person can so

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<v Speaker 2>easily coerce and dominate. To quote Bob Waltamaya one last time,

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<v Speaker 2>we cannot secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and

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<v Speaker 2>our posterity if we sitt with our oars out of

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<v Speaker 2>the water. If we drift mind leslie, circumstances can sweep

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<v Speaker 2>us a disaster. Our societies presently produce millions of highly

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<v Speaker 2>authoritarian personalities, as a matter of course, enough to stage

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<v Speaker 2>the Nuremberg rallies over and over and over again. Turn

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<v Speaker 2>in a blind eye to this put someday point guns

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<v Speaker 2>at all of our heads, and the fingers on the

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<v Speaker 2>triggers will belong to right wing authoritarians. We ignore this

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<v Speaker 2>at our peril. Social dominators want you complacent, apathetic, hopeless,

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<v Speaker 2>and out of the world way. They want to control

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<v Speaker 2>everything and everybody, and they have their loyal followers ready

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<v Speaker 2>to mobilize. They are not the majority, but they're determined

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<v Speaker 2>to win. Do not let them. If you know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>If you spot these signs in your own spaces, it's

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<v Speaker 2>your responsibility to do something about it, to organize, to educate.

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<v Speaker 2>Because one person could accomplish so much, and two people

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<v Speaker 2>could accomplish so much more. Good luck, all power to

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<v Speaker 2>all the people. Because it could happen here. Can follow

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