1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: Yes? 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: right with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 4: It is Monday, October fourteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: episode number forty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 4: The Break. We are a Live ins WBC Mortgage studios 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 4: at the Star were presented by LGLG as the world's 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 4: number one O lead TV brand for eleven years in 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: counting See why at LG dot Com. 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: Forward slash O led Evo. 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 5: I thought you were going to turn around. It was like, actually, 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 5: that's a good idea. I'm gonna turn back around with 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 5: you know what. 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: I was watching the Giants miss the field goal. 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 6: That was a bad one. I was watching it watching 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 6: I was kind of I was. 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: Kind of thinking that he really missed that. Yeah, but 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: that just shows you, well, you got a kicker that 27 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: makes field goals. 28 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 6: So yeah, life could be worse, could be worse. 29 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: Thanks for that positive note, man, I'm over here that 30 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: we'll find maybe one or two others throughout the context 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 4: of this show. 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: It was a rough one yesterday for the Cowboys. 33 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 4: There make no mistake about it that that was maybe 34 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 4: the worst loss of the season. That's saying a lot 35 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: because that New Orleans game was pretty bad. But yesterday 36 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: it looked like Dallas just couldn't figure out what they 37 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: were doing and couldn't get on on a roll on 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: either side of the ball. But let's talk about it. 39 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: Cowboys lose forty seven to nine to the Detroit Lions. 40 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 4: To start at the story of the game. Let's go 41 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: around the table, Nick, what what for you was a 42 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: story of this game? 43 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 6: Physicality, toughness. 44 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 5: I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but 45 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 5: I think all of those issues really compounded in this game. 46 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 5: You go up against a really physical, a really tough 47 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 5: team in Detroit, and you add add in a little 48 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 5: sprinkle of engines that they were looking to enact from 49 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 5: that loss last December, and what happened. A thirty eight 50 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 5: point loss, the worst loss in the history of AT 51 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 5: and T Stadium, the worst loss, and Jerry Jones ownership 52 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 5: of the last however many years it's been I don't 53 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 5: feel like doing thirty five. Now there you go, thank you. 54 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 5: I appreciate that, Brian. But yeah, it was it was 55 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 5: physicality and toughness. And you saw that from the very 56 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 5: first drive until the very last drive, even when the 57 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 5: backups were in the game, it was it was toughness 58 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 5: and uh, they were just outmanned and they were outmatched 59 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 5: physically from the get go. And when you are outmatched 60 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 5: on every single play, this is the results you get. 61 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: This is what This is what happens when you don't 62 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: when you don't preach physicality, when you don't come into 63 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 5: come into a season trying to be tougher. I think 64 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: that's kind of the product of what happened here, and 65 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: we're only going to continue to see it throughout the season. 66 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 5: I was able to talk to some players throughout the 67 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 5: locker room access and Dak Prescott about what can you 68 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 5: do to be more tough U. We can talk about 69 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 5: that as a show goes on. But you know, they're 70 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 5: they're they're looking for a lot of answers right now. 71 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 5: They don't really have them at the moment. 72 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 7: And that's the concerning part it's like what you hear 73 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 7: from them doesn't really give you any sense of hope 74 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 7: as far as like, Okay, this is the plan and 75 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 7: this is what we're going. 76 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 8: To try to work on and get better at. Like 77 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 8: you don't. So that's the difficult. 78 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 7: Part to deal with at the moment, there's no sense 79 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 7: of direction or what you're actually going to be working 80 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 7: on and trying to execute. And we'll talk about the defense. 81 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 7: Obviously not good when you allow forty seven was it 82 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 7: forty seven points? But at the same time, and we 83 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 7: talked about it during the game, Derek, we were looking 84 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 7: at the defense, We're like, okay, well they got what 85 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 7: they got at the moment, but they're out there trying 86 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 7: to fight and make some plays. I think there were 87 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 7: a lot of different players that we still saw some 88 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 7: aggressiveness and some willingness to go in there and do 89 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 7: what they can to help the team. But I can't 90 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 7: say the same on the offense. It's like the offense, 91 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 7: there's really no excuses. I think you look at all 92 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 7: the players and the talent that you have. You do 93 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 7: have talented players, you have people that you can work with, 94 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 7: You have people that you paid money. A lot of 95 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 7: money too. You have players that are healthy, but yet 96 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 7: you cannot score a single touchdown. You cannot scheme these 97 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 7: guys properly to get them to the end zone. And 98 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 7: that's something that's very, very concerning, especially you're heading now 99 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 7: into week seven, you're heading into the bye week training camp. 100 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 7: Talk it's over at this point of the season. You 101 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 7: should have some type of rhythm or something that is 102 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 7: working for you, and you cannot figure out either on 103 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 7: the running game or the passing game. 104 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was going to come down to how 105 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: well your offense was going to be able to play. 106 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: You were just too in my opinion, too limited to 107 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: what you could do defensively in this game. And Nick, 108 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: I like what you're saying about the physicality aspect of it. 109 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: I feel like we might have overrated an offensive line 110 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: here for the Dallas Cowboys. Even the best five that 111 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 2: we thought, maybe Cowboy Nation thought as best five really 112 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: wasn't your best five. And you're showing like a team 113 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: that struggles at right tackle sixty five plays five plays 114 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: might be really bad. You have a Hall of Fame 115 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: right guard, it's not a Hall of Fame right guard anymore. 116 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: You have a center that's really young who's trying to 117 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: play the position and pick up twist stunts, but he's 118 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: kind of confused when that happens, which allows pressure into 119 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: the quarterback's face. The All Pro guards now playing left 120 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: tackle because your normal left tackle is so banged up 121 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: he can't go in the game. He was on the 122 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: sideline address, but he was so he was banged up 123 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: to the point they really didn't want to start him, 124 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: so they said, okay, let's go with these five that 125 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: finished the Steelers game. He had some problems at tackle 126 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: in this game where all of a sudden he steps down, 127 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: here comes a free rusher. Dack's now in trouble. Boom, 128 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: there's a hit, balls not where it needs to be. 129 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: Maybe the ball's high, maybe it's overthrown. But you're you're 130 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: dealing with an offensive line that we thought maybe would 131 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: be a strength in actuality. They're really average right now, 132 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: they really are. They can't really run the ball, they 133 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: can't get any push. The backs are struggling with that themselves. 134 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: I know everybody's complaining about the number of carriers that zeke, 135 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: but go back and watch the running game. There's really 136 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: If you're asking me that, okay, here's a good scheme. 137 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: Here's a good scheme thing to do. Nick. Let's take 138 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: Tolbert and try and block him on hutchetson when we're 139 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: running a play going away and see how that works. 140 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: Not very well. You know. Let's try and block Schoonmaker 141 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: over here on an all pro guy and see how 142 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: that works one on one. Not going to work very well, 143 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: by the way, bad idea, Bad idea. Tell you what. Though, 144 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: they schemed a nice job with Edie Lamb that first 145 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: catch one handed ketch. But hey, look at this little 146 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: scheme stuff working here. We're gonna switch the routes and 147 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna drive it and we're gonna clear it. 148 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 6: So after that first drive, I was like, man, we're 149 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 6: in for a shootout. This is gonna happen. 150 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: There we go, Yeah, here we go. So to you, 151 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: but that's you know, and you and you and you're 152 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: like you're sitting here thinking it's they're capable. They're capable, 153 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: but offensively they're just not good enough. They're not good enough. 154 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: They don't run the ball well at times, they don't 155 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: pass protect well enough. Uh there receivers, you know, when 156 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: when they do have what we call creative routes. I know, 157 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: Brad Sham and I get out and go back and 158 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: forth about this. I hate the word creativity in ways 159 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: of football because I think there's there's things that you know, 160 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: you naturally need to do, and you know you can 161 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: kind of figure some things out, and they have some 162 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: creative plays. If you go back and watch the game, 163 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: there'll be some creative plays. Balls behind the receiver, balls 164 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: too high over the receiver, quarterbacks got a guy in 165 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: his lap, running back didn't didn't run, hit the right hole. 166 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: That's why you lose football games. You know. Defensively, you 167 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: did not have the personnel to play against that offense. Nick, 168 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this, even if you had Parsons, Lawrence, Bland, Carson, 169 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: all these guys Orleans, it might have been a nass 170 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: kicking too. You know. That's how good that offense is 171 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: because they do things to you and they put you 172 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: under a lot of stress, you know, and that was 173 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: going to be your offense needed to be good enough 174 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 2: to kind of make it a shootout. They couldn't make 175 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: it a shootout. I'm probably because they're probably not good enough. 176 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 5: I'm gona circle back to you on that creativity point, 177 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 5: but I feel like we have bigger things to address. 178 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I'll say this, I was very 179 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: disappointed from the standpoint that yesterday in a game, we 180 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: have so many players that you don't have. You're playing 181 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: a team as good as this team is, you're playing 182 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: at home where the last two outings that you've had, 183 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 4: or the last three outings you've had at home haven't 184 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: been very inspiring. The players that are the best players 185 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: on the team that you needed most to step up 186 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 4: at moments yesterday failed you. You go down the list 187 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: and Dak didn't play this great game, his best game. 188 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: You mentioned Martin and I I have throughout his career. 189 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: I've loved this player and what he brings to the table. 190 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: That's not what we're seeing anymore. He might we're seeing anymore. 191 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you talked him on the side, he might 192 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: tell you he goes man, that was a rough one. 193 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that might have been the worst game I've seen 194 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: him play. 195 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 4: And I mean to the point where it was consistently 196 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: he was giving up pressure. You look at Ferguson and 197 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: that that wasn't gonna be an easy catch. But that's 198 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: a catch when you're Jake Ferguson, you make that catch. 199 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: That was a design play. If you look at it, 200 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: they put him on the right side and they kind 201 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: of delay him to run, and it's you thought when 202 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: he threw it, I thought that's a yolo ball. You 203 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: know you only live once. Yeah, I thought that was 204 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: a yolo pass. You go back and watch on tape. 205 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: It was a design play. Yeah you know it's a 206 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: design pass. But yeah, you know you've seen Jacobers. 207 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: I've seen to make more differ catches in that dig yesterday, 208 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: I don't think played his best football. There were moments 209 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: when it was like, what are you? There were opportunities 210 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 4: to make a tackle and he just he wasn't. Then 211 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: We've seen that before, and so I just I think 212 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: when you look at it, I don't think anybody can 213 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: walk away from that game and say, man, I gave 214 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: him everything that I had and gave him the best 215 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: of what I have, because, yeah, I've seen so many 216 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: of these players play so much better football than what 217 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: I saw yesterday, And in moments like that, that's when 218 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: I need my best players to really step up and 219 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: be better than even what they are normally. And that's 220 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 4: just not what they got yesterday, So you didn't give 221 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: yourself even a chance when you're playing against a team 222 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: that's as good as Detroit is. 223 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 5: To the Traylon Digs point four targets, four receptions for 224 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 5: eighty yards, and a touchdown when targeting Traylon Digs a 225 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 5: perfect passer rating, and then going to the Zach Martin point, 226 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 5: he allowed seven pressures yesterday. 227 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 6: That's a career high. 228 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 229 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 6: His previous career high was five. 230 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it would just there were just so many 231 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 4: things where it was like, I need these guys to 232 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: be playing at their very best, because I have enough 233 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 4: guys out there who are young, who are inexperienced, who 234 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 4: may not be as good, who I'm gonna have to 235 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 4: already take up for and kind of pull the slack 236 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: for them. If your best players aren't playing like your 237 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 4: best players, then you really just don't have a chance 238 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 4: at all. All Right, let's do this, let's take a 239 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: quick break. Well, we're gonna come back all over again. 240 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 7: It's like this, I mean, the similarities there offensively is 241 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 7: just like you. You literally and this has been shown 242 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 7: throughout the season so far, like you've had I can't 243 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 7: even remember the first game, I know that was a 244 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 7: bigger score. I can't remember how the offense overall looked. 245 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: Like in the Cleveland game. The yeah, second half, it 246 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: was a non It was kind of a no show. 247 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: They really didn't move the ball all the first half. 248 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: But I mean you could say similar things about a 249 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: lot of games this year that even when they have 250 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: played well, it hasn't been a full game. 251 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 8: You're not doing much of anything. 252 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 7: You got rezone problems, you can't score points, touchdowns, You're 253 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 7: relying on your kicker, which should not be the answer. 254 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 7: And what is the stressful is like you don't see 255 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 7: any type of improvement in that in those areas to 256 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 7: where you're like, Okay, we're getting better here, and like 257 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 7: you can at least talk about it and work with that. 258 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 7: But right now, at this point, it just feels like, 259 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 7: what the heck are we gonna do? 260 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 8: What are we expecting? 261 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 9: Now? 262 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: They are who they are? Is Bill Parcells would say, 263 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: they are who they are right now? 264 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: I mean, that's you can't And I said this last night. 265 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: I was talking to my wife. 266 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 4: I was like, I've been giving this offense the benefit 267 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: of the doubt. I think that they were still just 268 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 4: as good as they were last year. And I even 269 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: forgot what they were before they got past the San 270 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 4: Francisco game, because they were pretty bad before that. And 271 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: then they seem to get on a roll and then 272 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: we started to see the offense really kind of come 273 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: into its own and I gave them the benefit of 274 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: the doubt that that's who they still were. 275 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: I was like, surely the. 276 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: Loss of Tony Pollett wouldn't make that much of a difference, 277 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: but they haven't really lost a lot of other pieces. 278 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: And and right now what we're seeing is that this 279 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: offense is not what they were last year. 280 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's all Tony Pollard or. 281 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 6: Not Tyron Smith seeing the effect of Tyrone. 282 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: Maybe Tyron. 283 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: But also the part about Tyrant is you couldn't allow 284 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: on him to be there last year for all all 285 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: those games. 286 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so at least, but at least he was a 287 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: he was a he was a major part of it. There. 288 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: Now you have questions that left. 289 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 10: Tackle, Yeah, well you got questions all along, you do, 290 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 10: but really think about it is you have questions to 291 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 10: left tackle, but your right guard, as you mentioned, is 292 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 10: his the bar was so high that he's just playing 293 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 10: as a mere mortal right now. 294 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he's a he's an average guy right now, 295 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: which is crazy to say because he's such a great 296 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: player and he's been such a great player. 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See it for yourself at LG dot com 362 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 7: slash oledevo. 363 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 364 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: It is the second segment of The Break live from 365 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 4: the SWBC Mortgage studios at the star of the segment 366 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: brought to you by blockchain dot Com. 367 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about Dak Prescott. 368 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: He was seventeen thirty three fifty two percent completion, one 369 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy eight yards, passing, zero touchdowns, two interceptions, 370 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: forty two point two rating. 371 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on how Dak performed? 372 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 6: Yes today, Yeah, really poorly. 373 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 5: We've seen him struggle throughout the course of his career 374 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 5: against against his own type defenses, and I think Detroit 375 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 5: threw a little bit more at him than what he 376 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 5: maybe anticipated. And just for one play that could kind 377 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 5: of sum it all up was the Brian Branch interception. 378 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 5: The first one where you know, he had Dak believing 379 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 5: that he was going to go into account for Jalen 380 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 5: Tolbert on the checkdown and then as soon as that 381 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: ball was released, he turned back and be lined to 382 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 5: that ball and he was right there for it. So 383 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 5: you know, that's a ball that Dak's got to push 384 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 5: to the corner. He's got to push it up a 385 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 5: little bit. He's got to trust CD's athleticism a little 386 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 5: bit more. And then on CD's end, he's got to 387 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 5: play defense a little bit better than that. You know. 388 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 5: But I think, all in all, the day that Dak 389 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 5: Prescott had it's one of the worst that I've seen 390 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 5: in person over the course of my last couple of 391 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 5: years covering this team. You know, I think back to 392 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 5: the forty nine ers performance last year, and it was 393 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: very similar in the sense that rhythm was never established. 394 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 5: His receivers were just getting fought in the secondary over 395 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 5: and over. And I got to give credits to the officials. 396 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: They let them play for the most part. They called 397 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 5: a couple of penalties. But Detroit they brought that physicality 398 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 5: in the secondary as well, and it disrupted the timing. 399 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 5: It disrupted the rhythm of this offense. And when this 400 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 5: offense does not have timing and it does not have rhythm, 401 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: it is inserviceable. 402 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 6: And we saw that on full display on Sunday afternoon. 403 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm still that word inserviceable. I like that I do too. 404 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: It's a good word. 405 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: It's an educated guy talking right there. 406 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 6: Sometimes sometimes go ahead. 407 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: Brian, Yeah, I think the thing. I think the thing 408 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: with Dak is that, to me, there there were opportunities 409 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: in this game. Not a lot of them, but man, 410 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 2: there were some things that they had set up to 411 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: try and make it happen. We talked about the past. 412 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: The first the first inside passed, the one hand catch 413 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: to Lamb. I mean to me, I'm like, there you go, 414 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: capable of this stuff, you know, And there was some 415 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: things that they did that he's absolutely right about. The branch. 416 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: Branch had a couple of interceptions. The one that over 417 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: the middle to Brooks was just a really poorly thrown ball. 418 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: I mean, he you know, there was some little bit 419 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: of pressure, but he was able to get it out. 420 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: The pass on the end zone, the one and the 421 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: that was intercepted, it's kind of like Dallas, I guarantee 422 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: you this is what happened. They probably ran that play 423 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: like three times in gold Line period on practicing it, 424 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: and every single time they told the corner to bite 425 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: on the or the the man in the flat to 426 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: bite on the cross did it on their own. Yeah, 427 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: well That's what I'm saying, like or yeah, so all 428 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Now it's like, okay, this guy this 429 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 2: you know, it's Brian Branch. He's an instinctive player, and 430 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: you're thinking, Okay, this guy's gonna we're gonna play it 431 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: like this guy is gonna drive on the drive on 432 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: the because they're gonna run a screen. They fake basically 433 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: the screen is what they do. So they get Tolbert 434 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: like this is gonna bubble, and then he takes off 435 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 2: and then out and they're thinking that maybe Branch is 436 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: gonna but man, he just he's like no. Dak's looking 437 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: at CD the whole time coming across. You can see it. 438 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: You could see it in his eyes. I mean he's 439 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: looking at him, and Branch is like, you're not throwing 440 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: this ball that flat. Throw it behind me here, you know. 441 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: And that's just a good instinctive play. 442 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 6: Especially on third down too. 443 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 444 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 6: They were never gonna throw it short of the sticks, right. 445 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: There, never never were so Yeah. Unfortunately though that, I 446 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: think the play caller wasn't particularly good. I don't think 447 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: the quarterback was particularly good. I think the line was 448 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: particularly good. A lot of pressure there, they didn't they 449 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: don't run the ball. So bad day all around, if 450 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: you want to point the finger, the quarterback takes the arrows. 451 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: He stands up there and has to answer all the questions. 452 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: Everybody else kind of, you know, says, we'll look in 453 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: the mirror and kind of figure it all out. I 454 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: do believe this. They are who they are. You're right, 455 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: it has to be almost perfect for them to have 456 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: a successful play. I mean they can't. It's it just 457 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 2: sometimes if they're off schedule and all that, the creativity 458 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: of it all. I use that word there, but it's 459 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: a it was. It was not a good day and 460 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: they needed a good day from their offense. And I 461 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: think their offense just watching it now through six weeks, 462 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: it kind of like I say, it is what it is. 463 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: It's it's not good enough. 464 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 8: I just I don't understand it. 465 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 7: We know Dak is better than what he's shown so 466 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 7: far this season and what he showed in this particular game. 467 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 7: I mean we talk about the pressure. Yes, sure there 468 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 7: was a lot of pressure, but there were a lot 469 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 7: of plays that I saw where the pressure wasn't that 470 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 7: bad and he was still making bad decisions where he 471 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 7: was just throwing the ball to who knows who and 472 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 7: then doing who knows why, And we talk about I 473 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 7: know I brought this up after some other game, I 474 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 7: don't remember what, but the Dak's ability to run and 475 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 7: the mobility, and you mentioned the whole ankle thing that 476 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 7: happened during the off season. Well at this point, I mean, 477 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 7: I don't want to say I don't care, because if 478 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 7: I really hurt, you care. 479 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 8: About, but like do something. 480 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 7: You know, there were instances, There are instances where he 481 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 7: has the ability to kind of just get out of 482 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 7: the pocket and just gain a few more yards while 483 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 7: he figures out the target and throws it. We've seeing 484 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 7: him be able to throw good balls when on the run. 485 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 7: So that's an area of the game that is not 486 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 7: being used at all, not even when they're getting close 487 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 7: to the red zone in that area where I think 488 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 7: it can be very beneficial to them. And that's the 489 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 7: whole element that's been taken away when you're already struggling 490 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 7: without a running game. Overall, I think there are a 491 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 7: lot of elements in the game that I think Mike 492 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 7: McCarthy is not really utilizing it to his advantage. And 493 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 7: we talk about you mentioned Derek Hunter Lipke, another guy 494 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 7: that we've mentioned on here all the time, did he 495 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 7: do anything yesterday? 496 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: He was a sniffer blocker yesterday, a sniffer. Sniffer blocker. 497 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 8: I heard a sniffer in the locker room. 498 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: Got here with the knickerbockers, plays right behind the right 499 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage and kind of sniffs out 500 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: stuff that's going on there. 501 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 3: They certainly didn't give him the ball, throw. 502 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: The ball, or can him the ball. 503 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: They did not touch the all. He did not touch 504 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 3: them all. 505 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: He was a blocker yesterday. 506 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 7: You guys guys that you can kind of try something 507 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 7: different with and you're not so. I mean, this whole 508 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 7: thing kind of falls back into Mike McCarthy as a 509 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 7: play caller and what he's doing currently. I don't know 510 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 7: much about football, but what I watch without very little knowledge, 511 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 7: compared to what they have over there on that side 512 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 7: of the building and what they get paid for, to me, 513 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 7: it seems like it looks easier from my perspective. Again, 514 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 7: I respect what they're doing, but it just from our 515 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 7: bird's eye point of view, it looks like you have 516 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 7: the tools to create something better and do something that 517 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 7: you're not doing right now, like you're not. Again, I 518 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 7: don't want to bring up Nativity. 519 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: But yes, I'm the one with the creativity. It's it's 520 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: the right, it's right. But the thing that this the 521 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: trade team on offense from binds me. The old Cowboy 522 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: teams that win Super Bowls, you know, when you try 523 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: and kind of take things away from them, they kind 524 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: of figure something else out. They figure out how to 525 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: run the ball, or they figure out how to throw 526 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: it to the tight end. That play that they designed, 527 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: the double you know, the double River. That's that's a 528 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: I think that's a play someone was telling me, and 529 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: I need to go back and look at this. It's 530 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: a play at San Francisco ran against you last year. 531 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: Do it the kittle for a touchdown? Same play, you know. 532 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: So that's maybe it's like, hmm, maybe we can steal 533 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: this play from you know, somebody. And but that's that's 534 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: where I think with the Cowboys offensively though, it's it's 535 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: just such a struggle. And it's just such a struggle 536 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: because of the line struggles, the quarterback struggles at times, 537 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: they don't run the ball, as I said, and your 538 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: receivers don't always make plays for you, you know. So 539 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 2: that's I mean, it's you just you watch these other 540 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: teams that have so much success moving the ball. Detroit's 541 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: probad of a bad example because they've got one of 542 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: the best lines in football. They got really good young 543 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: talent with Williams and Saint Brown as the receivers, Laporta 544 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: at that tight end, is Hues and two of the 545 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: best backs in the league. You see what they did 546 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: to you. They just kept interchanging those guys. Montgomery the 547 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: carry and then the next guy, and they went is 548 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: back and forth with how they you know, and that's 549 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: everybody's kind of getting on him, like, huh, you got 550 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 2: a running back already and you're drafting one in the 551 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: first round. Okay, stupid. They look pretty they look pretty smart. 552 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 6: It's a full now. 553 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: Their offensive line is really good. 554 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 6: It's awesome. 555 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: Those dudes. They play on their feet. They don't worry 556 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: about your down guys, they block. Their tight ends are 557 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: good at blocking, you know. They they really they're there. 558 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: And they got a really fun play caller. I mean 559 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: he he was trying to embarrass you yesterday. He really 560 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: was throwing the ball to the tackle and stuff like that. 561 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 2: I mean he's like he's like, you know, who's practicing 562 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: plays to like catch it and pitch it to the 563 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: your all pro right tackle. 564 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 5: I love big boy touchdown so much. I caught myself 565 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: whenever was reaching in. 566 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 2: Get in crazy. But that's what you that's what you're 567 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: up against yesterday, you know, and you you look the 568 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: opposite of what that And that's probably kind of a 569 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: bad example because that's one of the best offenses is 570 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 2: in the league. 571 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 4: Let's take our actually, let's real quick, we get this 572 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: one last topic in before we go to break. 573 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: Talk about the offensive line. Brian. I know you went 574 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: down the line and they. 575 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 4: Had lots of struggles, and what I saw was that 576 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 4: the majority of the struggles seemed to be on the 577 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: right side. There were some some things on the left side, 578 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: but on the right side, it seemed like every play there. 579 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: Was something going on over there. They just didn't seem right. 580 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: My question for you is, how do you fix that? 581 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: Because you ain't getting rid of Zach this year, which 582 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: I'm not saying you should, but that's not changing Steel 583 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: is not necessarily I don't know if you've got another 584 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 4: guy you could. 585 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: Even put there in place of him. So what other 586 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: than them playing better? 587 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: Is there anything the Cowboys can do to help the 588 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 4: right side of. 589 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: The line. 590 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 6: Man, we're just gonna look at each other the whole 591 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 6: show here. 592 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean to me that it's yeah. 593 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 6: There's one solution. 594 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 5: There's one solution that's been tossed around on by fans, 595 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 5: and it's played right tack guid in a right tackle 596 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 5: and I I think you could do that if you 597 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 5: didn't have so much investment wrapped up in terrence. 598 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 17: But is it? 599 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 4: But my question would be for them that may be 600 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: a long term solution could be. But do you think 601 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 4: that after not playing right tackle through from training camp 602 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: and he get played in college, do you think that 603 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: he's going to be any better at right tackle than 604 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: maybe what we've seen already at left tackle, Because at 605 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: left tackle, we know he's got a lot of development 606 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: to do. So are you just changing out one problem 607 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 4: for another potential problem if you put him at right tack. 608 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 5: I think it's also maximizing Tyler Smith at left tackle 609 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 5: if you feel comfortable with what he's done there, and 610 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 5: then it's putting Tyler Gotten back into a situation of comfortability. 611 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 5: Even though he was protecting a blindsided Oklahoma and there 612 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 5: was still aspects that he was able to carry over 613 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 5: to the left side. I think putting him back on 614 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 5: the right side could help in the long run, but 615 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 5: I don't see this team doing that. I feel like 616 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 5: it's a wasted conversation. Honestly, they are going to keep 617 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 5: tern Steel there and ride it out with him. Yeah, Honestly, 618 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 5: if you look at how Terrence Steel started the season 619 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 5: last year and how he finished the year last year, 620 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: those last six seven games that Terrence Steel had some 621 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 5: of the best play he's had in his entire career. 622 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: And I think they still feel like that that can 623 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: come rear rear back around through the back half of 624 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 5: the season. 625 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: I think it's San Francisco, you're gonna see guiding a 626 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: left tackle, stell A Smith back at left guard. 627 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, I don't. 628 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to tinker with this thing anymore. 629 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: Like I said, the you're just not good enough up 630 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: front right now. You just you know, you've got to 631 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: get Guiden experience. You got to get BB experience. Smith 632 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: will be fine, Martin, you you ride that. That's that's 633 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame player over there. It's kind of 634 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 2: like the same problems you talked about with Tyron Smith. 635 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: You know, you're like, Oh, I don't know. It's some 636 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: days it's great, some days it maybe not. But you know, 637 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: and then you've got to figure out the right tackle stuff. 638 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: I just feel like that. To me, it's it's asking 639 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: a lot and they're they're not going to do anything 640 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: about it. They they tried. You know, their future is 641 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: with BB at center and Guidance at left tackle, and 642 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: I think that's how they're going to continue to play. 643 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: Let's take our final break. 644 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 4: We will come back and we'll talk a little bit 645 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: about the defensive side of the ball. 646 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: Not much that was surprising about. 647 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 4: Yesterday, but there are some points that we need to 648 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 4: kind of figure out and then talk about a couple 649 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: of players on that side of the ball. 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They picked up one 716 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty four yards running a rushing five point 717 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 4: one average two touchdowns. 718 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, there was a point. 719 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: Early in the game, maybe second quarter, when I was like, 720 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 4: it almost feels like they're playing with them, because if 721 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 4: they just decided they were just going to line up 722 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 4: and run every down they could, the Cowboys were really 723 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 4: not stopping them from running. They were just doing trick 724 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 4: plays and running all kinds of stuff around there. It 725 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 4: just seems like they were kind of toying with them 726 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 4: a little bit, But the run defense is where it 727 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 4: all starts, and I don't think it was really existent yesterday. 728 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 4: And I think that obviously you look at those numbers 729 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: and you say that if you start breaking it down, 730 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 4: where do you guys think was the biggest point of 731 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: failure for the defense from the standpoint zopping the run yesterday? 732 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 5: I think getting blown off the ball line of scrimmage 733 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 5: was just dominated by Detroit and that was on both 734 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 5: sides of the ball. Before talking defensively specifically, I was 735 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 5: able to kind of see some all twenty two this 736 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 5: morning and it just kind of reaffirmed my thoughts that 737 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 5: I saw yesterday. I mean, Golston wasn't horrible, and he 738 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 5: was still bad and he was probably your best player 739 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 5: on the defensive line yesterday. Mazzie Smith just reverted back 740 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 5: to what we saw against the Saints and the Ravens. 741 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 5: You could say the same for the rest of the 742 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 5: interior guys, Lynval, Joseph Carlos, Watkins when he had some opportunities, 743 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 5: kJ Henry carl Lawson. I mean, none of those guys 744 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 5: generated anything in the run game. And so what does 745 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 5: that do makes life more difficult for that second level. 746 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 5: I mean, fortunately you saw a couple of plays where 747 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 5: de Mont Clark was able to kind of be line 748 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 5: in and find the run gap, and Marvin Overshown did 749 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 5: the same thing. But for the large majority of the game, 750 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 5: the second level was having to play multiple gaps at once, 751 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 5: and then that's just asking your defense to do too 752 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 5: much at that point, and then once they get into 753 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 5: the secondary, nobody in your secondary can make a tackle. 754 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 6: So that's when you saw. 755 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 5: Davidlgomery throwing guys around, and my goodness, Trayvon Diggs, I 756 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 5: when it comes to tackling, specifically in the run game, 757 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 5: I don't he's had some bad games. 758 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 6: I don't think there was one worse than this. 759 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 5: I just I can't think of one off the top 760 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 5: of my head where he just wasn't he wasn't trying 761 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 5: to tackle guys. And whenever that happens, from getting blown 762 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 5: off the ball to second level having to play multiple 763 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 5: gaps at once, and then they get into the secondary 764 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 5: and those guys are like, I'm good, that's what happens. 765 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 5: One hundred and eighty three yards and however many carries. 766 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's what happens. 767 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you talk about the secondary. I 768 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: think Wilson was fine. I think I think Lewis was 769 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: one of your better players when you look at that. 770 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: I will say this though about the secondary, though, that 771 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: they're man. This team will will stretch you out with 772 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: the routes they run and how they replace each other 773 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: three to one side, one to the middle. You know, 774 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: they do a lot of things, and you know it 775 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: was it was a difficult day for them in the 776 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: backd and I think they messed with Hooker. I think 777 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 2: they messed with with Digs, you know, Ao sometimes as well. 778 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just to show the biggest problem yesterday 779 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: with you defensively, and Nick's not wrong about the physicality. 780 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: Those young linebackers had a hard day. They had a 781 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: hard day because of all the things that's going on. 782 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: The play action, the fits, the routes behind them, the 783 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: routes to the flat. You know, everything was messing with 784 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: them the whole day yesterday. And you know you could 785 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: see that daimone Clark just clearly does not look like 786 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: he knows where he needs to be or where he 787 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: needs to fit. You know, all of a sudden, I 788 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: mean I think they've dropped one ball this year. I 789 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: think that the Williams inside breaking route was the first 790 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: drop that they had that was clear. Yeah, and you 791 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: know what they did. They came back and ran the 792 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 2: same play and then they hit it. You know, they're like, 793 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: damn it, we got to get this guy back going. Yeah. 794 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: Very next they threw the ball behind but on the 795 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 2: first one on the drop, you see DeMont Clark looking 796 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: around like WHOA, what's going on? And then the route 797 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: breaks behind him and it was it was a it 798 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: was a really rough day for a lot of young 799 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: players yesterday. And you know, but you're, like I said, 800 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: even if you had all your starters, that was going 801 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 2: to be a different a difficult game. Maybe you had 802 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 2: a game like last year, maybe it'd been a little 803 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: bit closer. But man, that the Lions knew what they 804 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: wanted to do running the football. Their offensive line is 805 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: really good at playing on their feet. They aren't they're 806 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: not on the ground. The way that they block, the 807 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 2: way they get the second level, the way they cut 808 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 2: you off, and they make it very very difficult for 809 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 2: anybody to have to move the ball on him that way. 810 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 7: Honestly, I'm just surprised we had enough bodies to even 811 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 7: be at a game like being half players on the 812 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 7: field because at this rate, uh, And we'll hear the 813 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 7: report later on on Leu Fou. We know he got 814 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 7: out of the game, that he finished the game, but 815 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 7: walking out of the locker room, I mean his whole 816 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 7: sholder was wrapped up in bandages and stuff. So that's 817 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 7: another guy that's banged up. Luckily, by week starts now 818 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 7: and they'll have time to rest and get some of 819 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 7: those guys back. But the concerning part is here, even 820 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 7: when the starters come back, how is this defense like that? 821 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 7: It still doesn't promise you that this defense is gonna 822 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 7: be able to take the next step and be better 823 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 7: than what they've been. They were already struggling with the starters, 824 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 7: especially in the run defense. So right now, honestly, I 825 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 7: just feel like a fool I've been. I feel like 826 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 7: I've been. I don't know what the heck I saw 827 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 7: during training camp where I really bought into what Mike 828 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 7: Zimmer was selling and trying to implement with this defense. 829 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 7: I was very, very excited, and honestly, the thing that 830 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 7: I was looking forward to the most was this defense 831 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 7: and what he was going to do with it. 832 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 8: And right now. 833 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 7: There's nothing exciting about it, and and the kind of 834 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 7: job he's done at the moment. I don't know what 835 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 7: you guys think about the offense. The defensive coordinator. 836 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah currently, Yeah, Mike is and I really believed that 837 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: it was going to be buttoned up. It hadn't been 838 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 2: buttoned up. You still see the problems, the busts and 839 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 2: stuff that that they're dealing with. And we've always kind 840 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: of talked about with Mike playing with and wanting to 841 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: play with guys they're smart players and stuff like that, 842 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: that maybe some of those big plays that we'd seen 843 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: in the Green Bay with Dan Quinn in that group 844 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 2: when it was just guys running wide open, would not 845 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 2: be that case. Mike's Mike's reputation, Mike as a coach 846 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: was as a button up guy. This is not a 847 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: buttoned up defense. It's a defense. They're playing a lot 848 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 2: of young guys. Not an excuse. Mike will tell you 849 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: that's not an excuse. Got to coach them, got to 850 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: get them ready, got to help them make plays. They're 851 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: not making plays. And you know, as a as a unit, 852 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 2: coaches included, Uh, they are really really struggling with it, 853 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: with it with their guys now because they got a 854 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: lot of young guys. There are a lot of young 855 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: guys are making mistakes and Mike might be a little 856 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 2: handicapped aways calling his defenses, but that's on him too. 857 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: They I like you, Amber, I was excited about them 858 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: not giving up big, big plays, but those explosive plays 859 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: have been especially the home games have just been it's 860 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 2: been embarrassing. To be honest with you, Well. 861 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 4: I just honestly, I do put some of it. Obviously, 862 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,479 Speaker 4: the coordinator has to take. 863 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 2: A passion to take the blame. But the fact a matter. 864 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,959 Speaker 4: Is, like I think, it all starts with the fact 865 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 4: that if you are a defense that cannot stop the run, 866 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 4: and quite frankly, if you cannot on the front line, 867 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 4: if you cannot do the job of number one, keeping 868 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 4: offensive linemen off your linebackers, of being able to hold 869 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 4: up at the point of attack, of being able to 870 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 4: set the edge, all these basic things you learn about 871 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 4: playing defense at an early age when you play football. 872 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 4: If they're not able to do those things successfully and consistently, 873 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 4: the defense overall is going to hurt. 874 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 3: Like that. 875 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 4: You just it all compounds and the way offenses can 876 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 4: get to all the other things is if they've got 877 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 4: you to where you can't stop the run, then everything 878 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 4: else is open to them and you have no shot. 879 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 4: And I think that's where it starts and ends for me. 880 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 4: And really that goes down to the personnel you have upfront. 881 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 4: Maybe losing all those guys that you lost at the 882 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 4: defensive end position, and I'm talking going back to free agency, 883 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 4: maybe that affected you. Maybe having your first round pick 884 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 4: from a couple of years ago not being able to 885 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 4: step up and consistently be what a first round pick 886 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 4: should be is affecting you. I think that's where I 887 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 4: start and finish this thing, and for me, you know, 888 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: everything else is going to go from that. And I'm 889 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 4: not sure that's a fair deck to give someone like 890 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer, but it is what it is. He accepted it, 891 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 4: and when you accept the challenge, you got to also 892 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 4: check the blame if it doesn't work. But I will 893 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 4: say I think a lot of this has to do 894 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 4: with them just not having the personnel necessarily to be 895 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 4: able to. 896 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: Stop the run right now. And that's that's just a 897 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 3: fact in my opinion. 898 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 2: It goes back to Nick's physicality part of it too, 899 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 2: though stopping the run, being physical, all those things. 900 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 5: I asked Dak last night and his press or what 901 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 5: can you do to be a more physical team? Like 902 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 5: within the gap of a season? You know, how can 903 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 5: you just implum withdraw? 904 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. 905 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 5: I asked Jordan Lewis and de Montclark the same things, 906 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 5: but I think Dak probably gave me the better answer, 907 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 5: and he was saying, we have to practice harder, we 908 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 5: have to prepare harder. And I think whenever you look 909 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 5: at a team that has had multiple practice injuries over 910 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 5: the course of the last two years, where do you 911 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 5: find the balance? You know, where do you find the 912 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 5: balance between increases and physicality but also understanding that your 913 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 5: team is one more injury away from being in that 914 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 5: top ten of that draft that. 915 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 6: We were talking about, Brian. So, I mean, it's a 916 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 6: tough juggle. 917 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 5: It's something I would like to ask Mike McCarthy today, 918 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 5: just being like, how how do you balance wanting to 919 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 5: increase physicality without sacrificing more depth on your team? So 920 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 5: I think I truly believe it's just ingrained in the 921 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 5: culture of what you have instituted over the course of 922 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 5: the last two and a half years. Because when Mike 923 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 5: McCarthy first got here. I don't feel like that was 924 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 5: necessarily a problem. Like even in that twenty twenty season 925 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 5: when they were just getting blown out, there was toughness 926 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 5: in some of those games. There was more toughness shown 927 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 5: in a couple of those games. And we're today, which 928 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 5: is wild to say, looking at twenty twenty one, twenty 929 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 5: twenty two, I feel like those were the best chances 930 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 5: here in the MacCarthy era. You look, last year, physicality, 931 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 5: toughness just what nosedive and this year it's it's just 932 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 5: going deeper into the earth. 933 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 4: So and what's really interesting is you can see, I 934 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 4: mean you literally can see what Dan Campbell brought to 935 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 4: that team from this from the moment he stepped in 936 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 4: the building. When it comes to physical the Detroit Lions 937 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 4: will never considered the most physical or one of the 938 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 4: more physical teams in the NFL. He walked in and 939 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 4: from day one was like, if nothing else, we're going 940 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 4: to be tough and physical, Like we're gonna be physical. 941 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: And we all laughed at him too. 942 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And now you look at that team and they 943 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 4: have built that team. He has literally built that They 944 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 4: have built that team. I shouldn't just say him. They 945 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 4: have built that team to whereas you talked about Brian, 946 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 4: yet they got a bunch of skill guys. Yeah, but 947 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 4: even the skill guys are a little nasty, like they 948 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 4: got They play with a certain level of aggression. That 949 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 4: is you can point back to the coach coming in. 950 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 3: That's all about. 951 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 4: I think the coach bringing that mentality to that team, 952 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 4: and that's how they play. And if you're gonna play them, 953 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 4: you better match that because if you don't match it, 954 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 4: you're not gonna you're not gonna succeed against them. 955 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 8: Let's bringing David Coggins. 956 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 7: Let's hire Doggains bringing him and have some you know, 957 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 7: because that's more. 958 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 3: Than physical, that's crazy. Like Davidgins, he's on a whole 959 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 3: different level though. 960 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 8: He'll push you to your limit. 961 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 7: I mean, all I have to do is listen to him, 962 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 7: and I think I can run through a wall. So 963 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 7: I don't know something I'm just saying some kind of inspiration, 964 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 7: motivational speaker or something. 965 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 4: I even wonder to some degree, I wonder if if 966 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 4: he were being honest, Like not to say he's not 967 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 4: being honest, but obviously coaches have certain things that they 968 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 4: will say publicly and not. I wonder if if Mike 969 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 4: really believes physicality is their problem, you know, I. 970 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 3: Wonder, I don't. I don't, but I don't know that. 971 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 4: And I know how football guys sometimes can say, no, 972 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 4: it's really about execution, it's really about we just gotta 973 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 4: This guy's got to do his job. This guy's got 974 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 4: to do his job. I wonder if he would really 975 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 4: think that physicality. 976 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: Is is the issue. He thinks not getting turnovers is 977 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: a big thing, and over too much. 978 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 3: He thinks he had five yesterday. 979 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 2: I think the biggest problem. He probably feels like turning 980 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 2: the ball over is a huge problem for him, and 981 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: not getting any turnovers that that seems like to be 982 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 2: his focus right now. 983 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 4: All right, appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. 984 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 4: Actually we will not have. 985 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: To see you guys next week. 986 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 4: We're going to we're doing our mix up shows tomorrow 987 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 4: and Wednesday, So we got a whole different crew rolling 988 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 4: in here for the break. You guys will all be 989 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 4: shipped off the places. 990 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 2: I mean the morning, the very morning, bright off the jump, 991 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: nine am, who's got nine a M? Is that to you? 992 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 7: With sol? 993 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 8: That's all Kyle's signature at the end of. 994 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 6: I think you said you're. 995 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 3: On the Break tomorrow eleven. 996 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 4: It will be myself, Nick Eatman will be joining me, 997 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,240 Speaker 4: and we'll have our new guy, Tommy Yarsh meeting us 998 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 4: as well. And I think Bonnie Jill will be on 999 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 4: with us. So we got a nice Yeah. 1000 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 3: I'm interested to see how we how we mix in 1001 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 3: on this show. 1002 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 8: What so I put gum under the table and I 1003 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 8: just touched it. 1004 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 2: No, you're kidding. 1005 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 3: I paid way too much. Well, Garry paid way too 1006 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,479 Speaker 3: much for the studio, is a proper in the show. 1007 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 4: Somebody the Break Live Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 1008 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1009 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.